These are increasingly dark days for America’s haters. More and more, some Bloviating Fucktards of the Right seem to be coming up hard against the realization that while the First Amendment of the US Constitution may technically protect their right to spew hateful, bigoted rot, public tolerance has its limits, and it looks like some of the more egregious purveyors of filth are discovering those limits.
The German language has some marvellous words. Words that declare in just a few syllables what it takes whole subordinate clauses to say in English. There’s gemutlichkeit, which means, essentially, "the cozy life". A place that is gemutlich is a house or tavern or apartment that’s not just cozy, but also has an air of restfulness and ease, where the stresses and problems of the world at large seem far away.
Another great German word is schadenfreude, which means "pleasure at the misfortune of another", and while it’s not the prettiest of human emotions, it’s certainly real and, I would venture, even justified in some cases.
Which brings us to a series of recent calamities that have befallen the members of the Westboro Baptist Church. Westboro Baptist is the church of Rev. Fred Phelps, Jr., those Good Christians who first came to your attention, probably, when they showed up to disrupt the funeral of Matthew Shepard , the 21-year-old gay man who was brutally beaten and then left to die hanging from a fence in Laramie, Wyoming. Not content to mock his family and turn an already tragic occasion into a hellish circus, Reverend Phelps also "made attempts to gain city permits in Cheyenne and Casper, Wyoming to build a monument ‘of marble or granite 5 or 6 feet in height’ on which will be a bronze plaque bearing Shepard’s picture and the words: "MATTHEW SHEPARD, Entered Hell October 12, 1998, in Defiance of God’s Warning: ‘Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind; it is abomination.’ Leviticus 18:22."
Nice, huh? Make no mistake, folks. These are good Republican Family Values at work. While most "christian" right wingers stop short of the level of poisonous hate exhibited by Phelps and congregation, their insane prejudice stems from the same spiritual sickness, an urge to punish and destroy anyone who is Not Like Them.
Phelps and company have made more of a name for themselves in recent years by disrupting the funerals of US service personnel killed in action. Thus far, this has gone swimmingly for them, but a lawsuit filed by the father of a slain US Marine Lieutenant appears to be poised to stop them right in their flat-footed, inbred, mouth-breathing, self-righteous tracks:
For the first time since members of Westboro began protesting at military funerals, someone is using the courts to stop them. A distraught father has filed suit in Maryland against what he views as a gross violation of privacy and intentional emotional abuse.
On March 3, 2006, Marine Lance Cpl. Matthew A. Snyder was killed in the Al Anbar province of Iraq. His father, Albert Snyder, buried him on March 20 at St. John’s Catholic Church in Westminster, Md.. It was supposed to be a peaceful, private ceremony.
But the funeral was interrupted by members of the church. "The protesters — Westboro Baptist Church — showed up with their signs, their hatred," Snyder said.
According to Snyder’s attorney Sean Summers, the demonstrators bore their infamous "God Hates Fags" signs, as well as a lesser used "Semper Fi Fags" sign, particularly offensive to the dead Marine’s family.
Though (Phelps’s daughter and family attorney Shirley) Phelps-Roper maintains that the protesters "were hundreds — hundreds — of yards from where the funeral was," Snyder was forced to travel past them to enter. "To be honest with you, I tried not to focus on (the protest), and more on my son," he said.
But according to the lawsuit, the church’s presence was emotionally damaging to the already grieving father. Postings by Phelps-Roper on the church’s Web site following the protest that claimed Snyder "taught Matthew to defy his Creator, to divorce, and to commit adultery," and "raised him for the devil," further added to the father’s pain.
Wouldn’t Jesus be proud of how this particular group of His Little Sunbeams are behaving?
Here’s what happened when they were confronted by a real man of the cloth:
At Arlington, Pastor David Foote of Franklin, Penn., saw the protest and attempted to engage the demonstrators. He told them that "God loves everyone," prompting church members to descend upon him in a hail of insults.
"A lying, false prophet — that’s what this is," Phelps-Roper told CBSNews.com, and dismissed him as a "dumb-ass" and a liar.
Foote was in Arlington to pay his respects to Army Spc. Jonathan Kephart, killed near Baghdad on April 9, 2004. Seeing the contempt demonstrated by the church for both the dead and the living was troubling to the Baptist preacher.
"Christians don’t talk the way they talked to me," he said. "We show respect to each other."
I’m going to take you at your word on that one, Pastor. Having seen the respect shown to others by Good Christians like Tom DeLay, Ralph Reed, and Jerry "Punkinhead" Falwell, I’m a little skeptical of that statement. But I do believe that we can agree that Phelps and his Phlock are not exactly paragons of Christ’s love.
In addition to general damages, the lawsuit is seeking punitive damages against the church to act as a deterrent against future protests,
Phelps-Roper feels this is a misuse of the judicial system. "Their stated purpose is to tie this little group — the servants of the living God — up in litigation," she said, "not caring what the merits are … or if they could possibly prevail."
That’s precisely what this is, you hateful bizzatch. A tiger-trap for your band of bleating psychopaths.
And if that’s not enough to muzzle you, maybe the new laws enacted in Indiana (with twelve other states pending) to make what you do a felony will.
A U.S. Army soldier was buried Monday, surrounded by hundreds of friends, family and a heavy police presence. Sgt. Rickey Jones, age 21, was killed Feb. 22, 2006, while on patrol in Iraq. The Kokomo native is the first serviceman to be buried in Indiana since the governor signed legislation that restricts protests at funerals.
A church group that has protested at military services across the country failed to show. The Westboro Baptist Church had publicized on its Web site plans to picket the funeral.
Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels cited the planned protest as one of the reasons he quickly signed a bill into law that makes disorderly conduct within 500 feet of a funeral a felony.
(snip)
Disorderly conduct at funerals, burials, funeral processions or viewings in Indiana is now punishable by six months to three years in prison and a $10,000 fine.
At least a dozen other states are considering similar measures.
The Westboro group did not show up for a funeral this weekend in Missouri, either. That state also has a ban on picketing and protests at funerals.
Sounds to me like you guys are having a hard time, Mrs. Phelps-Roper, et al. Pretty soon, you may have to shut down, or at least confine your particular brand of toxic hooey to your own churches and homes. Awwwww. That’s a shame. Cry. Me. A. River.
Really, though, if this does mark the end of the road for the folks at Westboro Baptist, I’ll sort of miss them. In the final analysis, I think they are really the worst enemies of their own cause. Their hysteria, their gall, their frothing bigotry and casual, pie-eyed atrocity have ultimately driven more people around to our side of the argument than the entire run of "Will and Grace".
Reverend Phelps? By the way, your son Nate called. He said you’re a violent, abusive sociopath, and seeing you on TV gives him flashbacks.
Oh! And 5,000 angry bikers called right after that. They told you to go fuck yourself, too.
Wearing vests covered in military patches, a band of motorcyclists rolls around the country from one soldier’s funeral to another, cheering respectfully to overshadow jeers from church protesters.
They call themselves the Patriot Guard Riders, and they are more than 5,000 strong, forming to counter anti-gay protests held by the Rev. Fred Phelps at military funerals.
Now that makes me proud to be an American.
Yay! Life sucks for Westboro Baptist! YAAAAAAAY!! Schadenfreude for everyone! It’s delicious! Hooray!
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maybe this time…
Well, there really are zeros
rats, fern got it..
curses, too slow…
TRex, words fail me. I am so flipping angry everytime I think of that cretian who dares to call himself a “living God”. I hope this lawsuit gets front paged all over the country.
congrats, Fern! TRex, I think you mean “than” instead of “that” before “the entire run of Will and Grace.” To protest a funeral is just despicable.
When will more Christians stand up and publically denounce such haters?
There is plenty of demand for Muslims to stand up and do that against their own fundament nut jobs, so what about it, good Christians?
Why aren’t you out there with the bikers?
As my goodnight to Late Nite, here’s a link (courtesy of James Wolcott) to the General’s photoessay on keyboarders vs. real combatants:
http://patriotboy.blogspot.com…..1253261733
At least Hugh Hewitt’s nipples are standing at attention. Pam’s, not so much.
I’m glad they’re getting sued.
I’ve suspected for a while that while they are genuinely bigoted, part of what they’ve wanted for years was to finally provoke someone to hit them, so they could sue.
There’s an air of the shyster there. I dunno. I could be wrong.
But dragging them into court where they could be drained of cash is good, though I’m sure they will love the chance to get up on the stand and spew their crap. Their type always does.
TRex !
Once again folks, I urge you all to practice safe sects.
Condomaniacs?
But dragging them into court where they could be drained of cash is good, though I’m sure they will love the chance to get up on the stand and spew their crap. Their type always does.
Funny, they don’t *look* spewish…
And again, while I think the suit is a good idea, bank on Phelps milking it for all its worth as far as publicity goes.
The bastard loves a platform and a camera.
A possibly good idea would be to watch this as it develops and to get on the case of any media outlet that decides it might be a good idea to parade the freaks as a means of garnering ratings and sensationalizing hate.
Phelps should thank God I’ve never had the chance to run into him. If we’d been so cursed to have a funeral for a soldier in my family…well, hell hath no fury like a p*ssed-off stepmother.
(TRex, love ya man, but you’re letting a nasty genie out of the bottle with the use of one word. I beg you to reconsider the selection.)
Is it really truly ethical to find pleasure in the suffering of the batshit insane?
Well, OK maybe just this once.
Another fun game is to think about which circle of Hell Dante would place Phelps.
My god! What went wrong? How did I get to be No.12? or is it now 13? 14?
EPU’ed and in case anyone cares…
One day after I sent a nasty email (among other things, that day)to Kurt Weldon, my computer crashed. Big boom. Had to do a ‘destructive recovery’ where I lost everything. While on the phone with tech support, my phone line died–twice. After 5 hours of trying to get back up without success, I decided to step away and take a break. Something my mom taught me. I put on a pay-per-view movie thru my evil, corporate cable company ( which also is the bringer-of-internet) and tried to ‘chill’. The film went out five time in the first half hour. I called cable, they had me re-boot the system, to no avail. They said come in and exchange the box (across town). I did. My phone went down yet again, this time for two hours. I am alone in the house, no witnesses. Once I got my computer back up, many passwords had been changed, and without recourse. I have had to write snail mail to the companies involved and await resolution. Why? Because I pissed off a congressman (called him a fat boy) and/or my NSA person and who knows who. I thank you Eureka for your inquiry.
Ok…so I’m feeling a little sorry for myself, who hasn’t? Once again I thank Angie for the carefully stirred and not shaken cocktail.
hhrruummmppph
Hugh Huge-nips.
-GSD
A possibly good idea would be to watch this as it develops and to get on the case of any media outlet that decides it might be a good idea to parade the freaks as a means of garnering ratings and sensationalizing hate.
I look forward to Ann Coulter making the rounds on TV to decry the vicious hateful liberal persecution of the courageous Phelpsians.
OK 16, I can live with that.
NIce T…(is that your rap name?)
I miss you. Thanks for being here.
TRex,
What you’re describing is the Geo-Political ideology of the GOP’s Reich-Wing. Not Right-Wing as you misspelled it, but REICH-Wing.
wow — trex uses the ‘c’ word —– quick someone trex him . . . . .;-P
hey hope, just sent you email.
TRex, I think you mean “than” instead of “that” before “the entire run of Will and Grace.”
Thanks, Dana!
(TRex, love ya man, but you’re letting a nasty genie out of the bottle with the use of one word. I beg you to reconsider the selection.)
Please remember that this is the blog that named Kate O’Beirne Sandpaper Snatch.
If you find it that offensive, though, I will change it. But sometimes the ugly words are the only ones that will do.
That Capalert idiot has also fallen on hard times. (movie reviews for “Christians”). He only reviews movies now if people “donate” rather large amounts of money. Some of those reviews though are pretty hysterical to read hehe.
You gotta wonder about the mindset of someone who feels the need to watch a movie and count every curse word, just to review it and tell everyone how awful it is :)
Oh, if only Constantine had converted to Mithraism instead of Christianity hehe.
Speaking of hateful and monstrous human beings.
John Bolton is buidling his Jacob Marley chain very long and heavy.
(Snip)
“We don’t think that simply returning to business as usual is a way to bring about a lasting solution,” Bolton said.
“Rather than jump to conclusions about ceases-fires and other matters, we felt it was important to let that play out and to do what was important today, which was address the tragic loss of civilian life,” Bolton told reporters.
(End)
Business as usual. What a monstrously sick man to say that what is going on now between Israel and Lebanon is better than what was preceding this disaster.
-GSD
TRex, at first the c word gave me pause, but then I realized that if not him, who? I consider him the lowest of the low and came to the conclusion that it was appropriate.
“Rather than jump to conclusions about ceases-fires and other matters, we felt it was important to let that play out and to do what was important today, which was address the tragic loss of civilian life,” Bolton told reporters.
Umm, isn’t that what cease-fires are *for*?
These people have no idea of what God’s word truly means.
Changed the c-word, but held my nose while I did it.
HopeSAT — hey, have you had any other weird electrical problems in your house? Fuses popping or clocks acting like a brown-out or black-out? Television or monitor die on you? Asked any neighbors about the same?
You might have a localized electrical problem; you might consider getting a UPS (uninterruptible power system) for your PC, one that also provides protection from surges and through which you plug your phone/cable line. UPS will not only buy you extra time to shut down a system in case of a power failure, but it conditions power coming into your PC so that it isn’t fluctuating and damaging your PC. Might think about a big enough UPS for both PC and cable/TV stuff, or buy two, one for each PC and the TV/Cable stuff.
TRex—smart move, even if it hurt a little.
I must say my own Rev. Gov. Huckabee jumped on this a few months ago and there will be no protesting near a funeral in Arkansas. I wonder if Phelps et. al. will take this to the Supremes on 1st amendment issues.
The really disturbing thing about Phelps-Roper is that (on the Hannity segment at least) she seems so calm and self assured, complete with a little smirk of superiority at all the poor sinners who do not understand her righteous truth.
Kind of reminds of one Mr. Bush. Now that’s truly frightening.
TRex — thanks, dear. I know, the shoe certainly fit that skank-muffin, but we had an issue in thread yesterday about it (ask “M” about it).
If it were you and me in conversation, you’d probably have to beat me to the same descriptor when talking about this particular spawn of Satan.
You know, for some reason “Snatch” just doesn’t make the hackles rise in the same way. Partly because it fits the subject “s’naturally”. Heh.
I think it’s rather remarkable that traditional media scolds spend so much time wagging their fingers at angry liberal bloggers and people just pretend Fred Phelps doesn’t exist.
If we showed up at soldiers’ funerals picketing like that, oh the spittle that would fling…
Is there a donation page for costs of the father’s lawsuit?
“I think it’s rather remarkable that traditional media scolds spend so much time wagging their fingers at angry liberal bloggers and people just pretend Fred Phelps doesn’t exist.”
The counterpart on the left would have to be Ted Kuscinski or someone of that ilk.
Thanks Suz…gonna check it in a sec and Rayne you are a technical and brilliant wizard but in fact I did check with neighbors and everthing electronic (without exception) is on a surge protector. My original intention was to protect from thunderstorms which we have frequently, but it all failed nonetheless. I believe I was attacked by the government. Think what you will, but I feel intuitively certain. Fa la la la la.
HopeSAT – I immediately thought of electrical problems as well. Password problems are another strange universe though. Very odd.
I’ve heard of steer ropers and goat ropers. But I’ve never heard of Phelps ropers…
HopeSpringsATurtle
It may be an anomaly in your own personal electrical field which is causing a disturbance in the generalized ether of hyperspace and distorting the space-time continuum.
If I were you I would avoid open fields, tall people and metal headgear.
At least he stopped beating one of his children. Oh he grew up, moved away and never returned.
Eureka Springs — wonder if Phelps’ bullsh*t might not fit the description of obscenity, which is subject to local interpretation if memory serves. In which case there may be no First Amendment right to protect his speech, especially since other venues are available.
I have to wonder whether harassment isn’t also a factor that would work against Phelps were he to sue under the First.
Agh, slipping into bad habits again, up too late with the FirePups. Got to hit the hay here in the midwest, must get up early before it’s too hot to get my work done tomorrow. ‘Niters, ‘Pups, you central and pacific folks keep the fires stoked by the lake!
Morris
Does that meam my tin-foil hat and my braces?
There is a pretty horrendous thread at KOS about Freepers mocking the death of young Lebanese…the usual ignorance and hate filled vomit about them being terrorists once they are over 10 years old etcetera….
Then there are pictures of protests in many Islamic nations.
One photo sums it up with sign that refers to Condi Rice as the “midwife from hell”.
Boy this neo-con doctrine is working wonders for the Americans’ and the Israelis’ world opionions.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..01944/0807
-GSD
Morris, HopeSpringsATurtle might want to check with EPU, if your theory has any weight. He knows all about alternate universes.
I’m not so sure the First Amendment doesn’t protect Phelps and his hateful demonstrations. Do we really want to constrain hate speech to “Free Speech Zones”?
HopeSpringsATurtle 46
Tin foil hat has got to go. Braces are OK if you keep your mouth shut but I would reccommend a switch to the new clear plastic ones, consult your dentist.
Fred Phelps has earned himself quite a Wiki file. Probably more than anyone wants to know…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_phelps
Department of “I hope they’re not using my annual dues for that:” the ACLU is defending Phelps’ posse against the Missouri law little Blunt signed not too long ago:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00643.html
5-Suzanne… you describe him perfectly… “CRETIN.”
Did you know that the root of that word is actually “Christian.”
Kind of appropriate, I’d say.
cretin,
wow, I didn’t know that. And no offense intended, yanno.
‘ere, Hope SAT, can I top up your libation?
G’nite, everybody. Thanks, TRex and all y’all for all you do, worldwide. Really. Someone from FDL is always awake and alert; I’ll bet more than a few of us used to sleep (?) with one eye open and now we rest more easily and more quietly, knowing there is a firepup, somewhere, watching and working always for our chance to become a fantastic country and to fulfill our responsibility to the world!
I’m not so sure the First Amendment doesn’t protect Phelps and his hateful demonstrations. Do we really want to constrain hate speech to “Free Speech Zones”?
I do believe that people’s funerals should be protected. Grief is private.
whig
There are certainly some first amendment issues invoked by laws intended to prohibit or regulate the Phelps group’s uncivil behavior. I would not be surprised to see some of those laws challenged in court. A large number of the family members are attorneys, so they would not necessarily incur a lot of legal costs. But I think a good argument can be made that society has a legitimate interest in regulating the time, place and manner of their abominible exploitation of the Bill of Rights. Free speech is protected, but intentional infliction of emotional distress is not. It will interesting to see how it all plays out in court. In the meantime, I think the Patriot Guard deserves a salute.
Guess who war-criminal Henry Kissinger thinks this ALL leads back to: Iran!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00546.html
The media has steered clear of Phelps because it would require filming articulate glbt citizens for “an opposing view.”
TRex -
So glad you’re back from vacation. I really missed seeing your face inside Max’s medicine cabinet.
(BTW – not a big fan of the “c” word. Reminds me of the worst man I’ve ever known, who threw the word around a lot.)
On the other hand, once, many years ago, I had a a girlfriend who would drive any quartz electrical wristwatch crazy (eventually did the same to me). She claimed watches would just start to spin around for no reason every once in a while. Naturally I did not believe her until one night I actually saw it happen. Damn watch just started spinning crazily, went around twelve times and stopped where it had started. No, I am not making this up and I was not that drunk or on Peyote. Totally freaked me out.
On a completely different topic I have to brag I have great seats for the CSNY concert at the Hollywood Bowl tomorrow night.
And thanks for airing this issue, TRex.
I’m not so sure the First Amendment doesn’t protect Phelps and his hateful demonstrations. Do we really want to constrain hate speech to “Free Speech Zones”?
I do believe that people’s funerals should be protected. Grief is private.
True
Still, difficulties rise when we attampt to legislate decency.
Didja get your question in yet to WaPoO chatter Shailagh Murray? She’s on at 11 eastern:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00498.html
I think the media doesn’t cover it as much as it needs because of fears about 1st Amendment issues, which is a big issue with traditional media.
HopeSAT
I’ve had password problems because Trend (free download version of antivirus software) got messed up and wouldn’t let me enter my own password into a site.
Eventually I uninstalled it and then downloaded it again, and no more problems. I hope it’s something easy, for your sake.
Also, don’t most states have verbage in their criminal codes that declare exceptions for words or acts that are likely to envoke a violent response?
Cretin 53
I did not know that. I always thought it referred to a person from the island of Crete. This my have something to so with the fact that my first wife’s family was from Platinea, a small village on the north shore of the island.
TRex, I’m speechless and you’re awesome.
Phelps really bothers me, and he tests my commitment to the First Amendment–but grief is private. I’m not sure 500 feet is enough though.
Anyway, I’m just now heading out and wanted to throw in my 2 cents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33-_9nOX8KM
That YouTube is Michael Moore taking on Phelps on his show “The Awful Truth” from a few years back.
I despise Phelps and his entire inbred clan, but tearing down the 1st Amendment to deal with him seems a bit of an unfair tradeoff
Also, the same politicians slamming Phelps for his vile attitude regarding military funerals sure weren’t bothered when Phelps and clan were protesting at the funerals of AIDS victims
I think Phelps will win any court challenges he pursues, but, there ARE ways to stop the bastard without having to hurt the 1st Amendment
First off, the Patriot Riders are a great way to counteract Phelps, in essence, their bigger bullhorn of motorcycles drown out any of Phelps blather
But if you REALLY want to piss off “The Rotting Cryptkeeper” as Pam at the Blend calls him, do this
The best way to hit phelps where it hurts is through his speech, but with financial donations to causes that Phelps absolutely hates
So, for example, say you went to the Westboro Baptist Church site, and studied their itinerary of funerals to protest
When Phelps shows at his latest bashing, pledge a certain amount of money for every minute Phelps spends blasting everyone, and make sure the money goes to causes Phelps will hate, say a Gay Mens Chorus, or some issue that benefits gays, like an HIV crisis center, or groups fighting the spread of HIV
And what must drive Phelps crazy is that the more hatred he spews, the more money goes to causes he despises
The 1st Amendment should not be gutted because of the likes of Fred Phelps, not in the least, but there are ways to hit the bastard through his hatred, the most enjoyable form of Schadenfreude there is to celebrate
all batteries die around me, Morris S. I am not joking at all. especially wristwatches on my wrist. don’t know what it means, but there you have it.
Some funerals are held inside churches and temples. If Phelps walked inside a church funeral service he’d be shown the door, no?Just because one is held outside doesn’t mean any jerk can show up to “protest” it.
Hope the family has one helluva lawyer. Phelps and his minions have a lot of crazy $ behind them.
I’m with KingCranky.
Morris Shepard, I saw them there a few years ago. It was awesome.
I do wonder about the First Amendment issues with those laws. Emotionally I’m in favor of them, but legally … I suppose the argument could be made that the intentional infliction of harm is analogous to yelling “fire” in a crowded theater. It will be interesting to see what happens.
cretin: my understanding is that the word “cretin” initially referred to a resident of Crete. Not sure where you got your etymology, but am not sure it’s accurate.
And speaking of “c” words, now I just can’t help wondering what word it was TRex changed. Was it the one with two “ck”s in the middle?
The media has steered clear of Phelps because it would require filming articulate glbt citizens for “an opposing view.”
You really think so?
ianalc I am not a law clerk but.. I can’t trust this Supreme Court fooling around with our amendments.
TRex, I do agree that these are terrible people who are inflicting pain on those who have already suffered a loss, but I don’t think I disagree with the ACLU on this one. It’s shameful and wrong but I don’t see how you can constitutionally prohibit it.
Sorry, forgot to ref comment #; that was regarding Morris’s #61 re CSNY @ HB.
Homosexuality is an abomination against the LORD. You sin at your own risk.
I just posted 2 comments…where’d they go?
angie @10:21
all batteries die around me, Morris S.
Don’t feel bad, everywhere I’ve lived has had major plumbing problems or major leaky roofs hehe. I’m the Water God!
KingCranky #70: Brilliant! Wherever Phelps is going to be set up a pledge drive and make sure Phelps knows that every minute he spends protesting is money for causes he hates.
Eli?
angie
I know I was being snarky, but we all do have weak electrical fields surounding us as our nervous systems operate on electrical impulses and there is some possibility these fields have effects on our surroundings. It has been well established that electrical or magnetic fields do affect human and animal behavior and metabolism. My brother actually has a PhD. in physics and his specialty is bioelectromagnetics. He is an internationally respected expert and he assures me he’s not actually certain about anything.
I seek the rational solution, usually, but I have a similar problem with watches, MS. After 50 years, I’ve given up. Besides, asking people if they “have the time” has led to a few pleasant interactions through the years. *g*
On the other hand, sometimes the duck is a duck. Long ago, in the Nixon Administration, a friend of my mom’s was active in one of the POW/MIA groups. You may recall there were two back then — one supportive of the President and his War, one not. Well, my mom’s friend was active in the not-so-supportive group, let’s just say.
And she went on and on about how her phone was tapped, and there were cars parked outside her house, and cars followed her — and my mom and I laughed. We were new to DeeCee and its ways then. Now, of course, enough has come out about the Nixonite’s monitoring of his enemies that we think my mom’s friend was probably right about all that.
So, HSaT, probably what you think happened, happened. It’s just that there’s little recourse in our world today for what happened, and less satisfaction to be found than is right. But, if you believe it, I believe it. Because they can, and therefore (we’ve learned) they will.
Stay safe, stay alert, take ordinary and extraordinary precautions as you see fit — but while we are here to hear you about it, I will caution you that even in this day and age, these stories will quickly brand one as “kookie” or somesuch. Totally unfairly, given it’s probably what happened, but not the kind of thing you may want to be sharing with everyone at Drinking Liberally. I don’t want to see your support groups start to back away….
Now, here at the lake, LateNite, we’re totally down for hearing more and supporting you as best we can! And I do hope you are taking care.
the generalized ether of hyperspace and distorting the space-time continuum
Ether? Are you kidding me? There is no ether in space, my universe or this one. Hunter Thompson’s trunk, that’s another story.
Good lawsuits by the way. And no, most likely the father will not have to pay, it will be on contingency or free.
But you get 1. intentional infliction of emotional distress, and 2. false light. I don’t know if you can throw in invasion/intrusion of privacy, you might be able to, but it doesn’t matter, the first two are strong.
A friend of mine knows one of the families here in Indiana that was protested by Phelps’ group when their son died in Iraq that prompted their local IN House representative to write that legislation that Gov. Mitch Daniels signed into law.
This is one issue I found on the agenda this year from the GOP that I wholeheartedly supported. Even the GOoPers can get one right every so often.
King Kranky – maybe we could just bring in the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. Are they still around?
Yeah, I like KingCranky’s idea. Make sure the Fulsome Fred knows he is generating more support for everything he hates. Of course, he’s nuts, so it’s not like it’ll stop him; it’ll only feed his sense of victimization. But it’s a good way to protest him nonetheless.
Maybe we can buy the lots surrounding his compound, and fill them with billboards promoting the gay lifestyle hehe.
Thanks, EPU, for entering the non-”ether”! I just called, and there you were.
Two words for that buy up the land around his compound idea: bath house.
Are the Sisters still around? I made out with a pretty one with green lipstick just this afternoon at the Dore Alley Fair!
http://www.thesisters.org/
Thanks Teddy. I’m pretty far past , “what other people think” mostly because I think what they think is nonsense or bull oftentimes. I certainly want to be taken seriously, but at what cost? There are some many areas where we supress our ‘right-mindedness’ and succumb to ’social correctness’. Ever seen some beat their child in a public place? I don’t mean a swat on the heiny, but actual physical abuse. I have. And I intervened. But mostly we don’t. We are silently appalled and do nothing.
Kurt – If that was you who posted the Henry Miller link earlier today. Thanks. *s*
Dude. Am I just late to the party that Mel Gibson has been arrested on terrorism charges by homeland security?
http://www.bbclosangeles.com/B…..rorism.htm
TRex #95, that’s not the Beeb, that’s a spoof.
The 1st Amendment is not a free pass for any and all speech or conduct; never has been. And no, in this instance it would not protect the protesters. Think of it this way – they certainly have a right to say what they want and think what they want (no matter how insane), but that does not mean that they have the right to say it whenever and/or whereever they want – and that has always been the law.
HAHA, Bullshit Broadcasting Confederation of Los Angeles, lol. Nice spoof page though – Mel Gibson a terrorist. Sad part is no one is gonna notice its a spoof site in Right Blogtopia.
where did my other comments go?
Rexie I waxed poetic about your lovely, angry post. and they have diappeared. I’m gonna need my medication increased. Sheesh.
I’m so disappointed.
Is that BBC article on any other wire service?
Can I get anyone anything? Getting myself a nice glass of pinot grigio
Its ok TRex, I once got fooled by a fake Drudge Report site with Matt Drudge’s “confession” that he was paid to dig up that Newsweek story about Monica that set off Big Dog’s troubles. I even wrote about it on my website at the time (pre blog days, it took effort to write an article and design a page then post it to your own site back then.)
Got me going, too, TRex, last thread, about Holy Mel. Oh, well, I suppose it could still happen.
Yeah, HSaT, I had to ask a lady around the corner who was getting pushed around by some punk if she wanted me to call 911 this evening — I think I gave her the courage to walk away and he sure didn’t have the manliness to follow, so yes I understand about intervening when I see real injustice.
I try to choose my battles, with an endgame in sight, although I talk much better chess than I counsel or actually play!
And on Phelps, I’m with leaving the First Amendment alone during this particularly dark period. I’m not really willing to let Roberts’ posse decide about speech zone laws, speech zones, or (for that matter) speech at all. Let the bikers sort it out, or send Angels to create corridors of light, like they did at Gwen Araujo’s funeral, to screen the haters.
Haters will always hate, and their voices, filled with hate, will always find a way to be heard. We, though, must learn to hear but not listen to the hate.
Heh I was lookin for Sister Vida Boheme on Teddy’s link. Oh Vida, why hast thou forsaken us!
EPU @ 101
It’s a well done spoof site created by the Bullshit Broadcasting Confederation of Los Angeles. The Onion with more of a straight face in other words.
God ,the Sister of Perpetual Indulgence have the names…
sister Bea Attitude
sister Ann R. Key
sister Holly Lewya
sistersybil Libertease
You gotta love them…
Evil Parallel Universe at 85
Ether? Are you kidding me?
Of course I’m not kidding you. Actually I was kidding HopeSpringsATurtle.
TSF, what are “corridors of light”?
For those who missed the Marys Moment, rant of the day here at FDL….
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ent-213783
HSaT, I’d like a little pinot grigio, thank you! TRex, you going out yet?
Go ahead Morris tease the fat kid…
I cannot understand why the whole family isn’t put in a mental hospital. Oh, Reagan closed too many of them? OK — throw the murdering sociopaths in — there is still room for the Phelps family.
I am a member of the ACLU, and I have no use for the Westboro Baptist Church but if the ACLU is challenging laws designed to limit their activities, that does not bother me. I certainly disapprove of their interfering with funerals, whether military or AIDS victim, but I don’t want to see any state legislature or city council go overboard in trying to regulate them. So go ahead and pass the laws, and let the ACLU challenge them to see that the First Amendment does not get stepped on. And, once again, I salute the Patriot Guard for what they do.
HopeSpringsATurtle 112
Does that mean I don’t get any pinot grigio?
Morris Sheppard
Here, have one on me.
Dana: folks dressed as Angels, with giant wings made of opaque white material, stand side-by-side between the churchdoor and the cars, so as family members get out of the cars, they are in these beautiful tunnels of light, and can’t see outside of them, just all the way up the walk to the church.
I’m told it’s a wonderful way to get into the church without seeing all the protesters, and there were many at poor Gwen’s funeral, of course. The Phelps posse, among others. The bikers began their protection racket there as well — by revving the bikes, standing still, they drowned out the protesters, who could not be seen by the grieving family because of the Angels. Gwen had recently done a kindness to a biker, thus their interest.
Now the stench of the Phelps posse, I’m not sure how you’d overcome. But the sights and sounds, they had covered.
As for the Demon Phelps, he should be nicer to Gay people. After all the Bible says we’re gonna be judged by our “Fruits.”
Shell
My 2 lost comments completely addressed the mantally ill angle. I think the phelps are part of the lemming-like authoritarian personaly that John Dean talks about in his most recent book, ‘Conservatives Without Conscience” Its a great read, if you can .
:::::pouring a fine pinot for my friend Morris:::::::::
Teddy 117
They are portrayed in “The Laramie Project”. The good work of good souls. The stuff that makes God proud.
Hopie, I went looking for your comments and they could not be found. I looked high and low.
Sorry to bug out early, y’all, but I have a staff meeting in the morning. Ick. Nothing like getting out of bed too early to listen to other people pull their own puds for an hour.
HSaT, no pinot grigiot for me, thanks – but got any chocolate?
TSF@117 Thanks for that description. I’d never heard of it–beautiful!
HopeSpringsATurtle,
Pour me a glass while I pass around a bit of this Flatbush Rasta Skunk. Closest thing to Dro this side of Dro…
Good night TRex and thanks a million.
Great post, TRex! Thanks!!
hmmm…pud pulling..interesting…Rexie I think you are a God. Sweet ones. I’ll fill you in later…Love, Hope
My glass is still empty, though.
neurophius –
Thanks, don’t mind if I do.
I always think the best way to deal with scum like the Phelps is with ridicule. They are, after all, ridiculous. It is, however, unfortunate that they can cause pain to those in grief who certainly do not deserve it. I do not have an easy solution for that, but still believe the best way to get them to stop is with a crippling lawsuit, not a law.
Sub…sub…here’s your wine. But the bud gives me a headache. Thanks anyway.
Eureka, thanks for the Mary link – always good to read one of her rants.
in another life, i adhered to a revelatory, salvationist sect for about five years. suddenly, whilst on bended knee, praying for the ’second coming’, i had a gestalt.
i realized i was also praying for the anniliation of most of humanity, along with huge chunks of good green earth.
except for the select few, one of which i hoped to be, all would be incinerated to hail the glory of the coming savior who would transform the old into the new. like…..we gotta burn the entire forest to save the trees…how utterly destructive, and totally antithetical to the ‘universal will to become’ (nod to kurt vonnegut).
indeed, religious insanity demands that destruction must lead creation. reality demands that balance prevails.
happily, goddess absorbs all and births our future.
peas!
You guys are trying to get me drunk and take advantage of me.
OfT: The Zelig of Islam speaks:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00667.html
Morris
I think the ridicule energizes them. The ‘lost posts’ addresses this as well. I don’t give the phelps sick-fucks any attention. Cut off the source I say. They seem to thrive on the controversy they create. And they love conflict. I feel very tai chi about it. defelct them, they will destroy themselves.
Leslie, Where is Nefarious this fine evening? You are welcome, I thought it was a real gem.)
HSAT 17:
I have chardonnay, I’ll pour you a glass…
And to sound l;ike a broken record, the new Intel Macs…with one of those and a program called Bootcamp, you can rule the world!
And won’t have to deal with corrupt registries, missing .dlls, well, just on the PC side, not the Mac side.
Hope,
I’m conducting a study. Do you by chance have low blood pressure? Many people with low blood pressure get headaches from smoking ganga.
For he rest of you there’s some dubes on the table by the stereo. Frank Zappa’s “Sheik Yurbuti” is playing in the background.
I have a great deal of experience with some Megachurches down in Orange County, you know the ones. I have seen every type of hypocrisy practiced in those “holy” “purpose driven” “Christ-centered” buildings.
Nothing quite as bad as Phelps, but still…
Eureka, thanks for the reminder! Different computer, I kept forgetting to change it.
Morris at 134 – you’re on to us.
Stevie!
I got him a HP notebook. It seems quite adequate. He absolutely insisted no MAC.. I am gettin for ME an ibook. ASAP. Had to get a ticket for Germany and various other sundries but soon, oh so soon , I too shall rule the world.
Morris at 134
c’mere little boy…
HopeSpringsATurtle 136
I would generally tend to agree, but it’s hard to ignore people who show up at funerals and harass the grieving and distraught families who have lost children, spouses and parents in a terrible war.
Morris@134
If I can recruit one more liberal I win a toaster oven.
Hope, don’t forget to run your pooter through trend micro
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
for a free virus and spyware scan
60yoh
Blessed be. ;)
Jeez, Hope, some people can be such technological Philistines. The new Intel machines are pretty much the ultimate, flip back and forth between Mac & Pc pretty easily.
That said, I have 2 HP desktop machines here, along with 3 Macs…
Shall I pour a glass for you?
Sub at 140
Lowish..95/60ish been a vegetarian for a million years. My cholesterol is ‘upside-down’. But I drink and smoke when I drink. Ethical vegetarian, not a health thing. Fa la la la la la.
FYI: the troll “echoman” posted that same Mel-BBC crap on Crooks and Liars, at almost exactly the same time as here. Problem was, it was in the middle of the Late Night Music thread. And if you’re a rethug degenerate trying to compete with Miles Davis’ “Blue in Green”, you’re gonna lose out.
G’nite all
Just remenmber: No one said saving the world would be easy, but it’s fun.
Hope:
Go here: http://store.apple.com/1-800-M…..ecialDeals
Bookmark it, go there for a few days, check out what they have. I bought a refurbished iBook just before New Years, current model, not last years one, got the full warrantee, saved $250.
Pretty cool!
TSF- Another story out of bizzaro world, damn. I can’t picture this guy in my head.
I can’t take all this good natured banter. Why are you people so nice?
Anyway, I must rest up for the big night tomorrow, after show party and all, lots of old friends, etc. ‘Night all.
Yes please, pour.
Philistine. Yes, but only about computers.
The bootstrap is the switchy-changey software/platform thingy i was talking about when I was inquiring about laptops for my man. I’m gonna get it. Can’t wait.
GN Sub…sweet dreams. Saving is happening.
SteveAudio –
As I am by and large a technological ignoramus, I’m not sure what you mean by Intel machines that “flip back & forth between Mac & PC.” Would you mind elaborating?
Hope@149
Over the years I’ve asked hundreds of people who get headaches from weed if they had low blood pressure and about 90% have said yes.
Subway at 159 – what about people who get nauseated?
Hi all -
SteveAudio – I saw a late post from you from last night – Yes, I am in LA, did not know that you were.
TNL 157:
The new Intel based Macs, running a program called bootcamp, can boot as either a Mac or a PC. You partition the hard drive, with however much space is required based on your best guess, and voila, you have two computers in one box.
SteveAudio 162 – oooohh. Me wantie.
sherocket 160
Granada Hills. At the risk of blogwhoring in the worst way, my house was the site of Kobepalooza ‘05.
Go back to Jane’s old place, search for a post about it.
sherocket – doesn’t latex paint (from your boyfriends T-shirts) screw up your laundry?
dana…
If you are stil here i saw your empty glass. I am sooo sorry. I can be a terrible hostess on occasion.::;filling dana’s glass::::::::::
Okay, I am up way too late. Gotta go to bed. ‘Night, all.
Marijuana raises your blood pressure very rapidly. This is the mechanism by which glaucoma patients find relief for their condition from smoking weed. The raise in blood pressure counteracts the glaucomic pressure in the center of the eye.
Low blood pressure patients will have a headache form from the increase in blood pressure caused by smoking weed, which in turn distracts them from the euphoria experienced by normal lood pressure users.
g’nite Leslie.
Hello SheRocket. I’ve seen some of your comments over the last few days. They were fabulous. Can I get you a glass of wine?
Hope, Thank you! It’s just what I need to fall asleep here on the east coast. I’ll bring you some another night.
Sleep in the light of those beautiful angels Teddy described, firepups!
GN Les…sweet dreams
ER,AR – Not so far – the regular latex interior (semi-gloss is best) adheres beautifully. It gets a little crackly looking, but holds up through washing and (as far as I can tell) does not do anything to the other clothes. I have been getting a lot of milage out of mine that says “Guerrillas Love Bananas”
‘nite Leslie
Thank you HopeSAT! I very much admire your name, and I am sorry you are having a technology attack. I would love a glass, thanks -
Sub@140: I used to get headaches but it wasn’t from blood pressure. I had a sinus headache. Once I figured that out and started taking care of it (quit smoking cigarettes, especially) I stopped having headaches.
Cannabis actually helps expectorate congestion, so while it might make it seem worse when you have it, it may actually be making things better.
G’nite Dana. sorry I missed you. Really.
Awsome, and semi gloss too..
Btw, nicotine makes sinuses much worse but it can make them feel better because it numbs them somewhat. So smoking cigarettes becomes a destructive cycle because you don’t feel worse when you smoke but when you don’t.
Fin
I’m so pissed I can’t ask my hubby. (Doctor-deployed-to Iraq) Anytime there is a medical commment, I’m like, “Honey…” anyway…do you know how the “…glaucomic pressure drops…” That seems couter-intuitive to me if blood pressure rises…
Nicotine dialiates the bronchi though…some of this shit is just whack…..
All kidding aside, that was one of the funniest videos I’ve seen in a couple of weeks.
::::::pouring SheR a lovely, chilled glass of pinot:::::::::
Hi, all-
once again, TRex’s twin brother has been a-lurkin’.
Don’t know if I ever mentioned this before, but my dayjob is Macintosh Support Specialist-
and here’s something to put in your pipe: Two very interesting rumors about the coming of Mac OS 10.5- one is that the user will not have to reboot to start windows in Bootcamp, that instead, Windows will run, as it were, in a window. So, virtual access to all of your Windows software in a windowed environment. Pretty cool if it’s true.
Rumor #2: Users will be able to carry around their home directories on their iPods- this would provide untethered login in networked computer environments. You geeks will hear this and think “Oh, cooooool.” You normal folks will probably do that 45 head turn that my dogs do when I do something that makes no sense to them….
allow me to elaborate just slightly- imagine you are a university student or corporate employee who has to log in to the network from a different computer every day- now imagine that when you dock your iPod, you log in the exactly the same desktop and mail program and bookmarks. This would greatly increase portability of the work environment, and would also increase iPod sales AGAIN….
You heard it here first. Buy more Apple stock. I know I am going to.
whig
expectorate? really? hmmm. interesting. again it seems couter-intuitive.
Bobbychom
What video?
The Nefarious Leslie@160
Interesting you should ask, because I’ve asked about this also. If they say it makes them sick, I ask where they first smelled it that it made them sick.
Several of them said “At School.” And then they’d tell me how a police officer had given drug lectures during class or a church function that included burning small amounts of weed.
As the smoke drifted through the room the cop said “…Kinda makes you sick, don’t it?”
Obviously lots of folks get sick around smoke, but I was surprised at how many times the drug lecture came back to me when I questiond folks.
calling it a night as well. wishing air conditioned dreams to all. Sending special puppy love out to lhp and her puppy named mittens who isn’t well.
puppy love
*phoump*
so explains the coughing
Oh, MAN…. moderated into silence.
Don’t mind me. I’ll be the mac geek over here sulking.
Good night, ES -
The stuff cops use in schools is not the real deal….
really g’nite
G’nite Eureka (My state motto btw)
and I second your love to Mittens.
sweet dreams
Patrick…c’mere
…HopeSAT: when did your elektroTech/blowout happen? If it was Friday eve before 5:40 PM (Pacific) or 8:40 PM (Eastern) then it was Mercury Retrograde, make no mistake…also, I would just like to understand why people would go to the trouble and expense of flying around the country (on their own dime?) to protest at a funeral of someone they don’t even know for the purpose of calling attention to the dead persons sexual preference….? This is something very new in the unhealthy behavior department…and then the TV stations have a member of this looney group on their program? For exactly what reason again? I guess I’m in shock…there are so many interesting and exciting things to do in life and this is certainly not one of them…
HSaT: Yes, it’s all very counter-intuitive because it goes against everything we’ve been told.
Check the comments on this thread:
http://cannabisnews.com/news/7/thread7749.shtml
Um, ok…
spiderpaws — it’s not about the dead person’s preference, although when the Phelps posse used to protest the funerals of those dead of AIDS, it was. Now, the “logic” seems to be that their Lord is punishing America for being permissive towards gays (etc) and therefore allowing 9/11 and our soldiers being killed in the Iraq War. Very confusing “logic” which seems to be mostly about getting on the teevee and making people miserable.
spider
I agree. first with the merc retro. then about phelps. I truly believe they are menally ill. why do they appear on news shows? freak value. entertainment tonight. what will britany name her baby? I am so over this shit. I refuse to give MY energies to the demented.
I don’t know what I said in my original comment that made it disappear, but I was just saying that there are some interesting innovations RUMORED to be coming in the next iteration of the Mac OS.
Very cool stuff, including the ability to run Windows-in-a-window without having to reboot…
maybe my comment will swim out of moderation.
HSaT-
if you lived closer, I would have already taken your computer away, washed, rinsed and dried it good and given it back.
I do catastrophic recoveries all day long for people.
Spider
What sign are you? do you know your chart? My guess is yes. Tell me.
The glaucomic pressure inside your eye is caused by genetic factors and other things besides blood pressure. When the blood pressure is raised around the outer rim of the eye inside the socket it creates counter pressure which acts like when you squeeze one end of a fully inflated balloon.
I’m not a doctor or medical pro of any kind, but my buddy that had glaucoma explained this to me while getting high with him once before he died. He learned it from a teaching doctor at Indiana University Med Center.
patrick 198:
Even though I try to stay current at least re: Macs (I work with ProTools folks every day), I hadn’t heard some of these rumors.
I assume I should check appleinsider.com, macnn.com, etc?
…very interesting about the headache/low blood pressure theory…since I have freakin low pressure and frequently get a headache from smoking…
patrick
there live angels among us.
the mac thing is BOOTSTRAP. i’m getting an ibook as soon as I turn a few more tricks(JK). I really want one. I have been used Macs since college and the intro to pc world is relatively recent.
Patrick—I’m seeing a post from you at 11:36. Have you refreshed your screen?
hi fini finito – just emailed with Paul and with Neal Pollock – will update you with email tomorrow.
…course I know my chart but with a scorpio rising it is not likely I will reveal more than that…ahem
Excellent sherocket, I will look for it!
TSF@197
Final thought…way past snoozle.
Jesus is reported to have said that in his kingdom there are many mansions. If Phelps/Fallwell and their enablers are going to Heaven, I hope my condo is on the other side of town.
…hope, you first…
Fin
veddy interesting…thanks for explaining it.
I wish I was diciplined enough to use preview. you know I meant ‘counter-intuitive’, right?
SteveAudio @ 202:
this is actually stuff being talked about amongst the Unix geeks at work, so I can’t actually footnote you on this one.
You’re probably familiar with Virtual PC, if you’re a long-term mac user like most of the audio professionals I know. This is VPC with more access to the actual processor. You may have also noticed that Micro$oft announced that one can now download VPC for free.
I do not think that this is a coincidence, personally. Micro$oft ne’er gives anything away for no reason. My suspicion is that they’re trying to get out in front of whatever the new Mac product is so that they will continue to have more of your hard drive space being taken up by M$ products.
From what I know, cannabis does not raise blood pressure. I have read that it lowers blood pressure in fact.
No sweat Hope, and yes I knew what you meant. My grammar and spelling fascist days are long overwith online. Teh toobs is CRAZAY!
spiderpaws, you know your weblink in your underlined name doesn’t work, right? I thought there might be some kewl astrology stuff there, but when I click on your name, I get a message that safari can’t find the server “duh.” Which is kinda funny.
Spiderpaws
“I would just like to understand why people would go to the trouble and expense of flying around the country (on their own dime?) to protest at a funeral of someone they don’t even know for the purpose of calling attention to the dead persons sexual preference….?”
THat’s the part that shows just how twisted they are
The Westboro Baptist Church doesn’t necessarily care about the sexual preference of those whose funerals they try to disrupt, the spin of theirs is that this is God’s way of dealing with a country that doesn’t persecute homosexuals
Remember the Christmas Tsunami in 2004, and the Sago Mine Disaster earlier this year?
Yep, the WBC celebrated those disasters as well
It’s really hard to find much more hatefully joyous scum than Phelps and his clan
Even funnier, one of PHelps daughters got her ass kicked in a Mayoral Primary in Topeka Kansas, the Phelps family’s home base
Funny, I don’t remember seeing the WBC take that loss as an indicator of God’s anger at those who pervert God’s word
One other thing, about “intentional infliction of emotional distress”
This is the same claim that Jerry Falwell pursued when he sued Larry Flynt and Hustler for a parody ad in which Falwell had drunken sex with his mother in an outhouse-The ad was based on an advertising campaign for a liquor, in which the person discussed their “first time” as it related to trying that liquor for the very first time
And the claim was originally upheld-the problem for Falwell was that Flynt was pissed off about being in a wheelchair and losing his wife to HIV during the time the case went to trial
Thankfully, the US Supreme Court ruled that, as distasteful as the parody was, Falwell, by virtue of his celebrity status, was fair game for parodies that directly attacked him
Now, while that claim didn’t work for Falwell at the end, the fact that this grieving father is getting any attention is due solely to his son’s death in combat
Which means that proving “intentional infliction of emotional distress” may be a much easier claim for the father to pursue, as he didn’t ask to become known publicly, nor did he willingly place himself in the public spotlight to benefit financially
And personally, I hope his claim takes Phelps and crew to the most karmic of all cleaners
Patrick—I’m seeing a post from you at 11:36. Have you refreshed your screen?
OK, I see it now.
How interesting.
I bet it was the semi-facetious exhortation to buy Apple st**k.
*shrugs*
Good morning from Russia, firepups! Today is my birthday.
Trying to put some Christian principles to work here helping save the lives of newborns.
Patrick 211:
Duh! Sorry, I didn’t realize that you were THAT Patrick.
I actually had an Apple PC card in my Quadra 604 while I was at Capitol Studios, that was pretty cool, for the 1 program I needed on a PC.
Now I keep PCs handy for AutoCAD only. Oh well…
Happy Birthday, egregious! Births on birthday!
Trying to put some Christian principles to work here helping save the lives of newborns
!!!
I would bet that I don’t do anything that important today…
egregious, you’re my hero.
… Teddy… right here in my web… spinning…at night anyway
С днем рождения, egregious!
Sorry to keep linking out, but if you’re interested in reading about this it’s better than posting long articles here.
Lowering of blood pressure through use of hashish:
http://cannabisnews.com/news/21/thread21920.shtml
Happy Birthday, eg.
EG!!
Russia?? what did I miss?? I hate my nsa-assited-computer-break.
HAPPY FREAKIN’BIRTHDAY EGREGIOUS!!!!
eg 217:
You. So. Rock.
Newton…sexy script
Hope 143
Are you getting an iBook or iMac?
If the former, Mr. Littledog can provide you with a bag of tricks for the new computer machine.
He knoz more about Macs than the guys at the Mac store, and he keeps all our friends – - some of whom are astonishingly non-intuitive about computers – - up and running. That includes friends in CA, NH, LA, and NC, not to mention techno-dud moi.
Bonus for us would be a visit from HopeSaT.
Happy Russian Birthday, egregious, doing The Work of Angels!
I’m just passing along received wisdom that began with a doctor at a world renowned medical facility. I wouldn’t comment otherwise if it wasn’t from a source I trust who spoke with the doc who told him this.
Besides, I’ve tested this myself with the drug store blood pressure machine. Took a baseline test one day while sober. Smoked a joint in the parking lot the next day before entering the store and took it again, had about a ten point rise in blood pressure.
Besides, it’s logical when you consider lightheadedness and pressure around the eyes are common side effects of smoking weed. Those are classic high blood pressure symptoms.
HSAT 227:
Cyrillic script, used for Russian, etc.
Don’t tell me you’re a script slut? I’ve got some Chancery Italic for you…
spider
pisces sun, scorpio moon, virgo rising
mercury in aquaruis, neptune in pisces
tell me when you want me to stop…
SteveAudio-
’tis I!!
btw-
I forwarded your long-ago rant about the Beatles (along with my own essay about Ringo) to C&C Custom drums, since they just introduced a new kit as an homage to Ringo…
and whaddya know, Bill, the owner of the company, apparently sent it on to The Man Himself.
So, Ringo Starr now knows that he has a vociferous defender in the person of SteveAudio.
How about them Apples?
Steve..I’m wet
OMG..its late.
Bonus for us would be a visit from HopeSaT.
Hey, I am the one offering free tech support here! No muscling in on my geekery!
Fini Finito: Maybe it lowers hypertensive blood pressure and raises hypotensive. It wouldn’t surprise me.
Little Dog.
ibook …need a lappie for me. ended up getting a hp for the doctor-man. I’m going to houston in the morning. driving back in the early afternoon. coffee? I can call you from the road.
Patrick!
Dude! I bow down and worship unto thee!
We had McCartney in at Capitol shortly before I left, didn’t get a chance to talk to him, just said hi.
Thanks, that’s very cool. I published that piece at HuffPo as well, and got some pretty interesting comments. I know Geoff Emerick, I shoul send it to him as well, for comments.
Patrick, just checked out your page — one of the first cars I ever drove was a blue Dodge Dart. Of course, that was after the Plymouth Valiant died. And before the station wagon with fake wood panels on the side. But that is a much sharper Dart image than mine ever presented.
my goodness, HSaT, it *IS* late.
I should probably toddle off to bed now. There’s a pile of dogs there that I need to push to one side so I can lie down.
Night, firepups.
You folks give a guy a good excuse to stay up past his bedtime…..
HSAT 234:
Recorded a song for a good female friend years ago (just a friend!), titled “You Make Me Wet.” I think I still have the tape.
What’s in Houston? I was there in Feb & May, building my friend’s studio.
sherocket
you have excellent taste.
i must admit my first car was a ‘65 mustang, 3 speed. I loved that car.
passport office..have to renew hurry-time giddy-up…
love love love the old mustangs! It is too bad that my Grandmother wasn’t driving mustangs that got passed off to grandkids, instead of Valiants and Darts.
Doing a quick Google search I found this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4244489.stm
In other words, I think we are both correct AND yet, possibly both wrong at the same time for various reasons.
Egregious: here are some facts about you straight from the ancient symbols which I channel…you personnify the Christ Principle…loyal and high minded, stubborn when opposed, have universal attitude of mind and do spectacular and dramatic things, must be center of authority, interested in heading youth movements and bettering workers conditions, seek prestige through large gestures and projects, go to extremes, you could be on a stage but are too practical…your heart is EVERYTHING…
HST 244:
There are a bunch of restaurants owned by the Papa-something family there, Greek, but especially Cajun, called Papadeaux’s, I arte at 2 of them, worth checking into.
Houston is indeed a weird city.
Oh, don’t get me started on the Dart, or we’ll see the sun come up…
it’s a 1972 4-door with a V-8 318…. way too much motor for such a small car, which means lots of fast takeoffs… I am such a kid when it comes to big American cars.
TRex was making fun of me the other day- I have a full-time job, a huge garden, a touring band, I am training for a marathon, I spend huge chunks of time under the hood of the Dart, I am working on two screenplays and I still find time to fix all of my friends’ computers…and the other day I said “I think I might take some time off from work to go to The Recording Workship in Ohio for six weeks…”
and he actually laughed at me and said “What about your work with the Blind?!!?”
Is there a 12 step program for workaholics?
There is a 17 year old teen age boy trapped in my body. My next car was a ‘66 ’stang 289…after that was a ‘67 with a boss 302 and hedmann headers and a scoop. boys used to drool when i idled at a stoplight…
I think for workaholics it’s an 18-step . . .
gn Patrick…it is so hard to keep up in here…
I think for workaholics it’s an 18-step . . .
ba-dump bump, pish!
She’s here all week, folks!
LOL….
HSAT 250:
You.Are.Awesome.
Now, sadly, I have to pay someone to work on the German iron I drive.
To think that ever since then all I have had are station wagons and compact economy cars – everyone who loves me has told me that they would feel better if I didn’t ever try to learn stick-shift.
I really should turn in.
someone started talking about old cars, and my blood pressure went up… (or down, not sure…)
It is indeed getting too late to be boarding – coffee too late tonight, but work is always still at the same time in the morning. Night all, best wishes for your day tomorrow (and today, for egregious!)
have a saab 93 convertible now…i actually love it. its a 4 cl. turbo. fast, handles ‘like its on rails’ and gets 32 MPG. Did I mention the pop-up rollbar and side airbags? also the least stolen car in america
Steve you rock too.
SteveAudio-
I am asking for trouble here by putting sleep off even longer, but I have to know what sort of German car you’re driving…
between the big mopars, I have owned two diesel Benzes. You can see the door of the one that got shot when I lived in Chicago here.
I love those old ’80s 300 Benzes. My ‘84 300 TD had half a million miles on it when I sold it to buy the Dart.
…hope: your mercury transit/retrograde probably happened in your eleventh house of groups and organizations and any communications problems you had would have had to be dealt with by big groups of people…your luck and expansion now is probably going on in your third house of neighborhood and short journeys…in a couple of years you will have Saturn passing over your ascendant – be ready for that…
puf..puff..[passes to patrick]
That’ll help you sleep.
sushi? chardonnay anyone? you liberals…
Patrick
When my logic board died a few weeks ago, we pulled everything off my hard drive and put it on an external HD in the exact same way such that when I plugged that HD into another Power Book, my entire crashed computer’s contents showed up on the new machine, with the identical desktop visible.
It was amazing. I’m an over-user of the “Stickies” utility, and to have them appear as usual, along with my rather elaborate Drag Thing was pure joy.
My iBook was whisked off to Apple for a new logic board (and a new W key), and for a week I carried the little external drive around with me and plugged it into the backup laptop.
When my Chicklet returned, we just plugged the external drive back in and pulled all that content back onto it and what should have been a horrible dislocation was smooth and seamless.
What a miracle.
Bless you, woman!
I drive a BMW 325is, ‘95, with over 150k miles. Pretty tired, but still, a heck of a car. Bought it brand new, so every dent is mine.
Fini Finito #248:
I don’t think that study is very good.
“To eliminate the effect of tobacco in the joints , Cadet compared his results to those obtained from smokers, who showed normal blood flow. But, says William Notcutt of James Paget Hospital in Norfolk, UK, the longer-term effect on the brain may not have been caused by the same substance that produces the high.”
So they were studying the effects of tobacco at the same time with the cannabis.
http://cannabisnews.com/news/20/thread20206.shtml
ayldt 263:
I assume I can also do this with my 30 GB iPod, in drive mode. Haven’t tried it yet…
I’m an over-user of the “Stickies” utility
there’s a certain rock star whose machine I support (he’s a lurker here, too, btw) and I have never EVER seen anyone more hooked on Stickies. I guess if you’re doing two-year-long world tours and you have houses in three major cities, it helps to have all your numbers and To Do’s at your fingertips…
Patrick:
i owned a diesel Rabbit back in the late ’80s/early ’90s, then an Audi Fox, then a VW Scirocco 16V (wonderful car!).
Bought the BMW when I went to work at Capitol, ’cause, youo know, it looked better when I pulled into Spago.
Seriously. I’m such a tool. But it has been a really great car.
spider at 262
like my mercury retrograde wasn’t enough?
I have 4 planets in aquarius, and more shit in my 12th house than should be allowed. some peoples luck. sheesh.
whig @ 266
That BBC story cited the same study in Neurology that your link refers to. The crack at the end of the BBC article about smokers was quoted from a british doctor they asked for an opinion from.
Patrick 267:
You’re not here in L.A.? if so, let me know privately. My main Mac consultant has gotten too busy to take on any new clients.
SteveAudio-
that sounds like a very nice car. TRex had this old BMW for years. He’s not here, so I feel like I can say this-
it was SUCH a piece of shit. LOL. He got it second hand, and the previous owner had deferred all maintenance… bad brakes, bad front end, bad suspension, but y’know… that thing just kept going.
It worried me to death, knowing he was tooling around in that thing… I am SOOOOO glad he doesn’t drive it any more.
ummm..I just got an ipod nano…what is this shit you canb’t delete from it? not to mention it came with next to no instructions. god im old.
Patrick 238
Yeah, but San Antonio is only 80 miles from here. :)
old beemers…had a ‘74 2002 tii…bought it from the original owner who had every single piece of paper on it including the ship manifest from germany. it was sweet…
I sometimes wish I was in LA- I would get more session work!
Nope, I am here in the same town as TRex- Athens, Ga.
Nice place, and CHEAP. I bought a two bedroom farmhouse and three acres of land just outside of town for $124k.
I do phone support, though. I will email my #s…
I’m fixin’ to giddy-up yer way little…
Hope 240
Do I have to drive to Houston for the coffee, or are you veering out of your way through Austin?
(I’ve gone to Houston for less!)
I will drop by your neck of the woods on my way home from the pasport office. I can call you from the road. ‘K?
…Stickies, chicklets, russian babies…time for star gazing and ghengis khan…
Obee Kaybee kids, I gotta put myself to bed, I’m under the weather with my chronic conditions driving me batty and have medicated myself for a deep coma-like sleep with hopes of rejuvenation for the fight anew tomorrow. I’m gonna be pestering Lieberman’s media folks for a podcast for Taylor Marsh’s site asking for a quote about his Iraq war positions. Should be fun. Nite!
…a note of caution to Egregious…don’t sacrifice every drop of your blood…if you can help it…
so Fini is fini…good night sweet prince…sleep well.
Steve 268
I’m sure you can. It’s a program with a name that I didn’t retain and Mr. Littledog is sleeping peacefully beside me, so I can’t ask him.
In the past when my ‘puter died, I never got everything I wanted put on the new machine.
I’d give a lot to have all the pictures from the succession of laptops I’ve worn out.
spider
OK, Steve- numbers emailed.
My dogs are pushed to their side of the bed. Time for me to sign off. Work in four hours, after all… bleh.
Drive safe, HSaT!
Happy Birthday, egregious.
The rest of y’all…. be well and sleep soundly!
-p.
Goodnight Patrick. really. I’ve got to go to bed as well, but i anm having fun. Nice change from what’s been going on.
Fini @272: The reference to tobacco I was quoting was actually from yet another article on the same study in NewScientist.
You have to be very careful with NIDA studies. They aren’t always honest or careful about their methods because they want a particular result — to prove that cannabis is bad for you.
I don’t want to divert the topic here completely but I’m very skeptical and there are others who could speak more authoritatively about it than me if you sincerely want to discuss it. I mentioned this over on CNews so maybe that’s a better place to take this.
Little Dog? I’m gonna call you ath the store in the early-ish afternoon, ok?
Patrick 276:
Nice place, and CHEAP. I bought a two bedroom farmhouse and three acres of land just outside of town for $124k.
Bastard!
$124k will buy you a small condo over 100 mi. from L.A.
3 bdrm generic house anywhere you really need to live is $500k minumum, realistically $700k.
Patrick 269
Is your rock star friend ADD, too?
Some of us have to have everything visible or it’s gone forever.
I am a devotee of clear storage for physical stuff, too. It’s the only hope I have of knowing where anything is. :(
When I was still OS 9, I had a program called EZ Notes that was like a little Filemaker program that kept everything I ever needed right at my fingertips.
It was shareware, and the guy finally got around to adapting it for OS X, but it’s a lot less useful, dammit.
Hope 281
Yippee!
Cell is 512-970-6390.
ok I’m outtie. gotta get some sleep. thanks all for the good conversation, and to all a goodnight…LD…I’ll call you…
Hope 291
Store will be great.
Maybe I’ll take a couple of puppies in with me to give you a few minutes that are absolutely wonderful.
Patrick 286:
Nothing via email yet…
[Oh my gosh. I go away for a little while and come back to find they’re talking about slant sixes. shhh…I won’t tell them about the ‘73 Dart Swinger I had. Prolly start a riot. Tomato red. Black interior. Bench seat. Hardtop. It even still had the “daisy” on it. shhhh…]
Thanks, and spacibo for the birthday wishes.
A favorite German word: Sontagnachmittagspaziergang. Which means Sunday afternoon walk, when the whole community comes out for a stroll. Very civilized.
We were called into a conference before I could finish my comment. There is a 13 year old boy who has multiple problems, the question is how to alleviate some without making others worse. If you are a praying or energy person we could use the prayers and love for young Boris.
In our own department of congenital surgery the ICU is chockablock with post-op newborns, so no capacity to do surgery today because there’s no place to put them afterwards. Maybe tomorrow. Have several who urgently need surgery. We need more ICU nurses, there’s a national shortage.
Happy Birthday egregious!
Sounds like you’re really in the thick of it there. What do you do so as not to get too bummed out about the toughest cases?
egregious
The work of angels you do. Sounds like Boris is in good hands.
The nursing shortage – assume it’s much worse than the situation here…
Normal state of affairs?
Sontagnachmittagspaziergang-
WOW!
Great trip.
Adding my: Happy Birthday egregious! Bless you and hope you have a great birthday you Goddess you.
Thanks all!
I deal w tough and heart-breaking cases by analyzing how to do the best we can this time and what would improve the outcome next time.
Plus it keeps me from quitting, which I consider every couple of months or so. But people are depending on me, and I have a responsibility not to let them down.
And this is why I avoid church religiously.
Miracle-bringing egregious –
Love, if only I knew what *ilson knows, I’d put this in the biggest font FDL’s ever seen, every letter blinking a different color like a stadium scoreboard on acid:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!!
Good morning, all, and welcome home, IMM!
Hey there, ofg! Where’s “there” at the moment?
The ICU being 100% full is a vexing problem. I built it with a seven bed capacity. The Powers That Be only fund staff for six, then cut this to four in the summer, despite our being a revenue-producing center.
Unfortunately children don’t suddenly stop having medical emergencies just because it’s summer.
File this under: Things that make you crazy if you let them.
Sinton, TX 30 Miles north of Corpus.
Aaarrrgh, egregious, what The Rule of the Fathers has brought us to!
ofg, sounds like you’re sneaking up on home. Gonna have an off-road breather (which you’ll prolly use to stretch your legs and voter-redge around the nabe, if we know you) soon?
I sure hope lhp checks in with better news of Baby Mittens soon’s she can.
Happy birthday egregious. I could never work with sick people–and babies would be even tougher. Thank God for folks like you.
lotus,
Hopefully. This gas compressor that I load this morning is going to Sweetwater, OK. Maybe I can go home after that. This has been a helluva run. From OKC to Farmington, NM to Legionaire, PA to Corpus Christi to Sweetwater OK. I’m outta laundry and fulla receipts.
At least I got to have dinner with the Reddhedd family.
Thanks Lotus! I popped in momentarily yesterday; then I got some wierd fever/cills thing last night. My son has something similar for a day on vacation, so I am hoping for a 24 hour thingy.
Meanwhile, Happy Birthday Egregious!! Hang in there. I know the strange pleasure of working with the most difficult cases.
Wow, ofg, makes me tuckered just to read that.
Guess I better pack up. See y’all when it gets dark outside.
Yikes, THAT’s no way to come home, imm — sure hope you feel 100% again pronto.
I’ll wait ’til you feel better to beg for a full report, an’ just say “Hope it was a glorious week!” for now. We sho’ missed ya.
lobsters, crab rolls, hiking, canoeing, excursion on a four-masted sloop, more hiking, picnicing by the ocean, swimming in Seal Cove Pond. The weather was fabulous but for the first day we were there and the last night. Wonderful!!
Thanks for the email re: VG — as I told John Casper yesterday, I had figured out her new moniker before I left…. Hehehe
Today’s NYT story has Kornblut trying her hardest to overcome the body-language messages in the pix above it. She fails.
For Rivals in Connecticut, a Dash to Pick Up Votes
Dee-licious recap, imm. You’re welcome re email. What had tipped you off re “M”?
Good morning, peeps. Looks like I missed a great paarrrttaaaayy last night! I don’t know what’s going on in the universe, but it is one powerful dealio. World exploding. So much sadness, so much outrage. Everyday life just being so palpably different, waking up to witness incredible change. I think my life is about to turn a big corner. Seems like lots of FDLer’s having computer problems, too. Lots of static…how to detect signal from noise.
I live in an old very decent neighborhood that has a pocket of very, very wealthy homes on one perimeter heading up to the other edge of the hill. I just discovered yesterday that is where George Schultz lives, just a few blocks away. Walking home tonight lots more helicopters above. I think Blair must be back at Schultz’ again. I feel repulsion when I think about these people and their careless attitude about power and their wars to achieve it. Can’t sleep.
“Could” it now. Ya think?
Good morning, meta. Helos overhead, no wonder you’re more creeped-out than usual. Well, since you’re up, may I pour you a nice cuppa?
WHOA! Refresh your browser and find yourself in a strange new world!
*ilson, what have you DONE, bro?
Good mornin’ all. Wow, nice new goodies to make our commenting more idiot-proof. Thank you webmaster! How is everyone today?
…looks like we can even edit our comments after we realize out stupid mistakes.
Gee, lotus, I thought you’d never ask. No, seriously, lotus lotus, ever the consummate hostess. Please make it extra dark French roast. I’ve got to go to work in about an hour and a half and I’m dragging a little. Hung out with some new exciting friends, talking about all things globe.
How are you, my dear friend? I can’t believe that Press the Meat is repeated here on local telly at 3:30am…..???? Just for us insomniacs???? No wonder we can’t sleep!!
Hi, twolf! Guess I’ve got some ’sperimenting to do (users’ manuals and flowahs not getting along right well, as a rule).
How do your eyes work that red-against-purple trick? Mine haven’t picked up the hang of it yet . . .
Hmmmmm, I don’t see anything different in the GUI. Maybe I have to relaunch or reload or reboot or refresh or refrigerate.
Good God, do we have to endure CONdi now 24/7. I think she’s going to go down very soon. Buh-bye, Condi. Don’t let the Mushroom Cloud hit you in the ass.
Lotus – my eyes ARE red-against-purple at the moment and are asking me to pour the coffee directly into them.
…seriously though– what red-against-purple trick?
…you mean the red {NEW} on the purple bkgd?
Here you go, meta, big ol’ mug of Community Coffee’s ver’ bes’ extra-dark French-roast — hot biscuits coming right up, too. You gotta try one with this good sorghum molasses.
Mmm, got a real good do on these, if I do say so. ‘Nother panful in the oven, so pass ‘em on around, will ya, sweetie?
meta @ 330
Cool feature, *ilson. Love the upgrade!
twolf1 @ 333
Yuh-huh.
Wow — this is mega KEWL!
see, if you give me enough time, it is possible that I will catch on.
lotus @ 335
OK, I just had to try quoting a quoted comment!
Story headline on Raw Story: Bolton Won’t Face Filibuster….developing
bold
italics
underline
strike
…just playin’ ’round
hmmm, underline and strike not seem to render.. in safari at least
immanentize @ 338
Kinda like standing between two mirrors, innit, imm? Wonder how many receding images we can work in, if we put our rabid evil minds to it . . .
I also like the new top tags for playing around writing comments.
what does codedo?And how about this groovy link thing — how does it work?
lotus 341 — I was thinking the same thing… (laughing maniacally)
Morning Lotus, is the espresso/cappucino machine working yet? All this new stuff makes this Old Sow crave cafe deluxe!!
Biscuits AND new upgrade on the same morning???? OMG, did I just become Queen Meta? Imm, I like being imbedded, thank ya very much.
Bionic @ 7
way late to the party, but I have to applaud the use of “fundament” for these folks. I’m gonna steal it.
ahhhh – so type out your post, THEN highlight the text you want to modify with our new goody tags, click the specific button and poof! open and close tags in their proper places. This, as opposed to what I was doing first, clicking tag button, typing, then clicking again for the close tag…
neato!
Old sow, you classy broad, you. Cappucino, mmmmmm. It’s my 2pm just about time to go home ritual. Mmmmmmmmm. Lotus has been baking all morning just for us pups. I’ve got to pull out some berry jam from last summer……Coffee tastes so much better when someone else makes it.
Let’s just see here …
can't leave "code" outoror — oopsie, don’t seem to have the knack o’ “Link” yet.
Old Sow –
Sorry I didn’t get to see you in Maine — rain rain rain on the WERU fair day. Then I never left Mt Desert.
Next time?
WHOA, who turned on the lights??? OK, now I see. Lollapalooza, this is really fancy. *ilson! You must be exhausted! I really do need a driver’s manual, though. Hmmm, let’s see. So many choices.
this saddens me:
Serious spill on large Russian export pipeline
…and I wanted to use our new link button ;)
twolf1 –, how did you do that with th elink button?
meta @ 348
Wait, I also have fresh blueberries from the patch out front, and mmmmm, fresh raspberries from the path to the shore to put on the table……
Awesome, partial blockquotes through deletion…………
Twolf1 — how did you do that with the link button?
twolf1, thanks. I just stickied you.
OLd Sow — fresh Blueberry pie on the table, here.
Hi Imm, the WERU fair was like a mini-Woodstock. Muck, mud, rain, and not so much fun as one might have hoped. I wouldn’t’ve left the Island either!! Glad you had good weather otherwise. Aint our corner of the world lovely?
And yes, next time. I’ll be here unless it’s the dead of winter and I’ve managed to get to West AFrica again!!
Hey, OS, would you handle the espresso/cappucino honors, babe? I gotta get these biscuits inna oven. Whew!
OK, so Old Sow apparently lives in paradise. Next Yearly Kos at yer What do all the red NEW things mean by each person’s name??
And I can edit all my old comments forever and ever?
Sure lotus honey, I have the Wurlitzer of espresso/cappucino machines!! LOL Did you want one? Grande? Cinnamon or grated chocolate? Hope your oven is in the summer kitchen so the rest of the house stays cool.
meta 361 — AMEN on next year at OS’s! (If not sooner.)
immanentize – re: link button-
when you are ready to place a link, copy the link (control-c for PC, Command-c for Mac), hit the “link” button and a small window will prompt you to add the URL. Hit control-v (or command-v), pasting the desired link in the window – now hit OK. Next, it will ask you to enter the text that you want the link to appear as. type it in, hit OK and you’re done!
—just testing out the edit feature :)
lotus @ 329
Wow, look at all the new toys!
How do you go back and edit mistakes? Although in my case, it would take so long I would only get to post one comment a day and then spend the rest of teh day cleaning up the typos.
just edited my #364
Thar be a new thread aaarrrrrgggg!
Meta, did you ever wikipedia Old Sow ? Twolf1 was the first to cotton to it……..though it’s a little farther east in Maine that I am.
Next Yearly Kos in Maine would be awesome…our sty is just too small for 1000 Kos/pups…..how about at College of the Atlantic in Bar Harbor?
lotus @ 311
Baby Mittens loves pink bubblegum flavored anti biotics. She spent a quiet night and took her medicine. She is noticably improved and her breath sounds are deeper. Last night her heart rate was very fast, her eyese were glassy and her lungs sounded like a jar full of water.
She is still weezing this AM, but alert and perky. The vet comes intot he office at 8ish, so my husband should be able to get through soon.
Littleprop had a tough night. Cried herself to sleep, nightmares and woke up crying. SHe is curled up in her father’s bed now with the puppy cradled in her arms, they have gone back to sleep. It will do them both good to get some extra rest.
I think the pink bubblegum medicine made all the difference.
Ooo, cinnamon grande para mi, por favor, OS. Wull, no, down thisaway, ain’t but only the summer-all-year-’round kitchen. (But I’m used to it, so ’sokay.)
Anybody want summa these hotcakes with orange syrup I made yestiddy (the syrup I made yesterday, I mean — just stirring up the hotcake-batter now)?
Whew, lhp, I’m/we’re SO relieved to hear that!
Bless their hearts (Baby M and li’lprop both). Are tiny pups especially susceptible to pneumonia? I had no idea it could come on that fast.
I had no idea either. My husband has been very fortunate in his breeding prgram. We have never had kennel cough or any respiratory problems bigger than a sneeze before.
This was allnew to us.
The reason I knew it was pneumonia was because I have had it a couple/few times and my doctors have let me listen to my own lungs with stethascopes and explained what the sounds mean
Old Sow – did i tell you i visited and photographed Old Sow while I was in Maine/Canada?
Most despressing news, among many choices, is Schumer saying he will not filibuster Bolton. Those rumors I heard that Clinton and Schumer have changed their mind and will not oppose him are true I guess.
Some lobby (wonder who) is pushing someone’s buttons for sure. We surely don’t want this war to end too soon, do we?
Sad day for dems if you ask me. It is for just this reason Ned really needs to win. Joe will make sure Bolton gets through. Ned would protect us from him.
ooooo… College of the Atlantic in Bar Harbor…. if i can sit in the whale skull
Egregious
If you are still here. Happy Birthday.
I must say you have found THE MOST life afirming way to mark the annivesary of your birth.
If you want to know if you life has meaning, I think saving someone else’s life is the best way to do it. I admire what you are doing so much more than I can say.
Trex Great article! They say the guilty dog barks loudest, may be some truth to that. Phelps and “Fall Well” seem to have and inordant amount of venom to spew on Gay’s for some reason…..
That Baby M — I declare, whoever heard of such a trooper! How many days old, and already a WonderDog!
GrandmaJ, that is depressing indeed. Schumer needs to go. Too much gaming going on. They are not serving us! I’m so over these people. I don’t care if it’s a dem or a woman or whatever, I’m not voting for anyone that doesn’t have the principles to hold public office.
I don’t care if it’s a dem or a woman or whatever, I’m not voting for anyone that doesn’t have the principles to hold public office.
WORD, meta!
Wiki Old Sow? Why, what on earth do you mean??? Hahahaaa. Are you famous?!! I’d love to come to Maine for a big progresive confab. I need a big contrast right about now.
TWolf–you did say you saw it, but not that you photographed it. Got it posted anywhere yet? And yes, you can sit on the whale scull, but don’t tell anyone I said it was okay.
Meta, just try it!!
GrandmaJ @ 375
Schumer gets a HUGE amount of his re-election votes from pro-Isreal voters in NYC. That’s his base.
His base is lobbying him.
You know, people are faulting Rape Gurney Joe for being too arrogent to actually reprsent the vies of his constituents. Well, Schumer is being an effective REPRESENTATAIVE of the views of his base.
I’m not saying he should take a poll before every decision and NEVER think for himself. Schumer got elected on a pro-Israel platform. He would be breaking faith with with his constiuents if he did not follow through as promised.
Don’t take this the wrong way Grandma J, but unless you are a voter in Sunset Park or Flatbush, Brooklyn–I don’t think Chuck is even trying to represent your veiws,nor should he. he shoould represent to views of the people who sent him to DC to speak for THEM
Though I am PO’d about Clinton, HER BASE did elect someone who should want to oppose Boltin
lotus, you know I’m just tired of the Hillary chanting. I understand why people cling to the ghosts, but it doesn’t serve us to do that. When you keep voting in the compromised do-nothings, you keep getting compromised do-nothings. I’d rather search for the new Lamonts and turn the page on these cronies. Destroy the Old Club. Create the New Open Society. Let’s move on. NO time for this siliness.
Oh good gravy, I’ve got to get to work. Later everyone. And lotus, you and I need to personal chef for FDL and maybe Feingold.
Why can’t I get the edit this comment to link up into the comment box? I was going to go back and correct skull-spelling. IE doesn’t bring up the comment to correct, unless I am missing a step somehow.
meta
If you are still here.
1) Are you a New Yorker?
2) who do you see see as NY potential Lamont?
TRex @ 31
Agree with you. Stinkly, thought control it is …and I am surprised and somewhat dissapointed that you changed your word-smithing….your use of the “c” word was spot on and context appropriate.. but it appears FDL has developed its own brand of— shall we say— “selective enforcement word police moderators.” Just the other day I was on the receiving end of caustic scorn, comment manipulation and was slurred as sexist….by the moderator no less….right here at FDL. My word crime was a comment refering to Condi as a b**ch. Interestingly, in the same sentence I also referenced LieberLiar-man as a prick…though no howls arose over that word choice.
BTW…Great post….I had a face2face with Phelps a few weeks ago at a military funeral here in NC and I can assure you and all readers here that he is without doubt an utterly despicable piece of shit.
Larry
Wow, that’s so very cool Old Sow! Amazing what I’m learning here.
lhp, I hear what you’re saying, but I don’t think anyone should want to confirm Bolton. He’s not the right person for the job.
lhp – I’m in SF. My dearest friends are in NYC. We need to scrub the continent to find people who will serve us and pull us out of this horror we’ve been subjected to. Not trying to be argumentative. I’m just so worn out.
I do have to go now, dammit. Very best wishes today for you and you little lhp and the pups.
if you all havent seen it yet, Michael Moore deals with these idiots : funny
I’m surprised that no one plans to picket Phelp’s funeral
This all reminds me of that scene in “Saved!” when the girl is hitting the other girl over the head while screaming, “I AM FULL of Christ’s love!”
Oh, how I love that film.
Not to defend Phelps – I loathe the man and everything he represents – but in the interest of accuracy I’d like to point out that while Phelps may represent the most dangerous elements of the Talibangical movement in the US, his roots are with the Democratic Party. Every time he’s run for office, he’s run as a Democrat. Saying that “These are good Republican Family Values at work” isn’t entirely accurate…
Even the Germans don’t have a word suitable for these detestable vile faux-christian monsters.
margot @ 147, thanks and back atcha.
i have a neice named margot. she spread joy and encouragement for a couple decades, then she left. way too soon, some would reckon.