
David H. Brooks, former chief executive of the company named after himself DHB Industries Inc., is a greedy war profiteer that sounds like the long lost love child of Enron’s Kenneth Lay and Martha Stewart.
Brooks developed DHB in 1992 after he purchased the fledgling company "from the verge of bankruptcy." Earlier that year, the Securities and Exchange Commission penalized him while working at a brokerage firm with his brother. A hefty $405,000 fine by the SEC and an $800,000 investment later, Brooks was back in business. (DHB has two divisions, DHB Armor Group and DHB Sports Group, the latter produces protective gear for athletes.)
In 1998, DHB received a contract to be the lone supplier for armored vests for the U.S. armed forces. It was supplemented when the U.S. went to war in Afghanistan and Iraq. In 2001, sales were at $98 million.
Sarah Anderson, from the Institute for Policy Studies, writes:
His fortunes turned dramatically in the lead-up to the Iraq war, when Brooks successfully lobbied for an exclusive contract to make the vests used in the body armor now issued to every U.S. soldier in Iraq. The Pentagon’s largesse boosted DHB’s stock, which in turn sent Brooks’ pay, including stock options, skyrocketing, from $525,000 in 2001 to $70 million dollars in 2004.
Charlie Cray, of the Center for Corporate Policy, wrote that Brooks’ compensation raise constituted a 13,349% pay increase. Meanwhile, the federal minimum wage continues frozen at $5.15 for the last decade and corporate payouts to executives are on the rise, further spreading the pay-gap between top execs and their employees.
Timothy O’Brien wrote for the New York Times in January 2006 that DHB claimed over $340 million in sales last year. And while the exclusive contract slowed the deployment of the body armor until nine months after the war started, over 23,000 DHB vests were recalled because they failed to pass tests to stop a 9mm round.
The Marines and the Army recalled about 23,000 Point Blank vests from the field last year after The Marine Corps Times reported that the Marines acquired the vests despite warnings from Army personnel that the vests had what the newspaper described as "critical, life-threatening flaws."
Michael Moss of the New York Times wrote that a Pentagon study concluded that roughly 80 percent of the upper-body wounds to U.S. Marines in Iraq that resulted in death could have been prevented if the soldiers had more body armor. O’Brien wrote that DHB Industries said it was the Department of Defense that outlined the armor specifications and not the manufacturer. Producing bad products was the least of Brooks’ worries, wrote Anderson, "Instead, the Defense Department is focusing on alleged financial wrongdoing at DHB – a matter further from their own hands."
And so like Al Capone and his tax evasion and Augusto Pinochet and his money laundering, David H. Brooks’ downfall will likely have more to do with financial hanky-panky than the possibility that troops were killed because of his company’s shoddy vests.
In late 2004, the Brooks family sold millions (reportedly $186 million, according to O’Brien) in stock at the end of 2004 just prior to serious concerns arose regarding the faulty body armor. His holdings in the company decreased by over two-thirds from 48 to 15 percent. The sale dropped the stock price from $22 to $6.50 per share.
Last November, in what sounds like an episode of MTV’s "My Sweet Sixteen" gone mad, Brooks reportedly spent $10 million on the Bat Mitzvah party for his daughter held atop of the Rockefeller Center in New York. (A few pictures can be found here.)
Earlier this month, Brooks was placed on administrative leave by the DHB Board of Directors, until his "legal problems are over."
Brooks is currently under federal, state and internal investigations regarding his stock-based compensation. Brooks cashed out nearly $70 million in DHB stock in fiscal 2004. DHB is also under Securities and Exchange Commission investigation regarding alleged fraud in its inventory records. According to Monday’s statement, Brooks will have no authority at DHB. Retired General Larry Ellis, DHB’s president, will assume the role of acting chief executive.
And a quick update on the stock:
DHB’s stock, which last traded on the AMEX at $1.57 per share, opened on the pinks July 7 at 87 cents per share and has since crept higher. Shares of DHB gained 8 cents, more than 8 percent, to trade at 98 cents per share Monday morning.
At this rate, Brooks’ daughter will have to settle for a drive-in wedding ceremony in Las Vegas. Aerosmith and 50 Cent will be unable to attend, but Elvis has R.S.V.P.’d.
Other Posts in the Series
"Merchants of Misery" and the "Do-Less-Than-Nothing" Congress (introduction), 04.29.06
Houston, We Have a Problem (Halliburton), 05.06.06
Friends in High Places (Bechtel), 05.20.06
Transforming Risk into Opportunity (Custer Battles), 06.03.06
The Insider (General Dynamics), 06.25.06
A Day Late and a Dollar Short (Parsons), 07.01.06
Justice in a Sea of Destruction?, 07.08.06
To the U.S. "Thanks for the Money!" –Halliburton, 07.15.06
Your Tax Dollars at Work, 07.22.06
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Putz!
Ned!
Jane!
Redd!
Pach!
Donita!
Wish it had been that warmongering wanker
No wonder he prostitutes himself every time he appears as a pundit.
Ought O. Mattic for the People!
(OK, that’s the last time…)
I couldn’t figure out what to put as the picture but whenever I read Brooks’ name in DHB articles, I envisioned him to look like Bobo, so there you go.
Damn, Matt, you had me going until I saw klyde’s comment.
Damn, I thought it was Bobo. I almost started celebrating.
Ya don’t mean the young David whose eureka moment was fishing a burning $5 bill out of a barrel when his parents took him to a hippie be-in in NY’s Central Park? No, no, couldn’t be that little Davie.
Matt O
You gotta do more than put that tiny photo caption up there to make it clear that this is NOT The Wall Street Journal writer and PBS commentator.
Because it took me three attemtps at re-reading and switching back and forth to the Bat Miztvah link before I figured out that the post was NOT about the guy in the picture that went with the post.
If he wants to sue your ass, I would take that case, because this is not fair what you are doing to him.
See what I mean, Qualar at 4 thinks you are talking about teh WSJ Brooks
WHICH YOU ARE NOT.
This is wrong
See what I mean, Qualar at 4 thinks you are talking about teh WSJ Brooks
WHICH YOU ARE NOT.
This is wrong
Looks like Brooks got a twofer:
Insider trading and war profiteering all rolled up in one neat package.
not cool. and believe me, there’s nothing i like more than a little bobo bitch-slapping.
O. Matt….
I’m so horrified by these jackals! $50 MILLION on any child (unless for medical necessity) is just sick and evil.
Still, you deserve major kudos on bringing every dirty detail to light.
As my Dad might have put it: “DAMN THESE BASTARDS TO HELL AND BACK!”
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(That is a HIGH compliment. Trust me.)
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I wish there was a way to label each and every atrocity with the time-honored slogan:
“Your Tax Dollars At Work” -
might wake some folks up.
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lhp -
left you somethng downstairs.
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I took a test in 5th grade. Brilliant teacher. It was a sheetful of questions that were kinda Zennish. They might have an answer, but you’d spend an hour calculating…AT THE TOP WAS :
“Read everything. Turn the page over, sign you name and hand it in.”
A lesson well taught.
Is Qualar the only one?
I think we would all know if the pundit/columnist David Brooks was a war profiteer by now.
Yup. I’m a sloppy reader sometimes and I definitely thought it was BoBo.
Alright, since the point isn’t effectively made and people are confusing the two, I’ll change the picture.
Matt 15 -
The problem is the most unlikely suspects are war profiteers these days — in upside down world anything is possible.
Jenny 18 –
Duly noted.
BlanK – I took a test in 5th grade. Brilliant teacher. It was a sheetful of questions that were kinda Zennish. They might have an answer, but you’d spend an hour calculating…AT THE TOP WAS :
“Read everything. Turn the page over, sign you name and hand it in.”
A lesson well taught.
I remember racing though a test like that, so satisfied that I was “acing” it. Only one student, a quiet thoughtful girl, actually “got it”.
“in upside down world anything is possible”…
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Too true. Like Jozo berating Ned for holding a stock portfolio w/HAL, while he himelf also owns that same holding.
Replace this D.H. Brooks fellow with a retired general. Sounds like this stock might go back up. There ought to be some sense of shame in this fubar world.
I’m sorry Matt, I am not coming down on you, I think you have miscalulated badly here.
This is SOOO not FDL. We don’t do unfair. We play a little rough sometimes, but fair.
WSJ Brooks has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with this post and you have done nothing to protect him from a misunderstanding due to similar name and have exacerbated the problem by putting his picture there.
IMHO you need to swap a pix of the David Brooks you are talking about and ammend your post to MAKE IT VERY CLEAR that you are NOT talking about WSJ Brooks.
Please do this pronto. Please. I’m begging you. or take the post down. Please.
Matt O at 17.
Thank you so much
More importantly, that Bat Miztvah is nauseating. What’s she going to do for her Sweet Sixteen? Fly her friends to Mars?
Thanks, Matt!
Matt O. – you’re great – just protect yourself.
Jenny from the Blog 25 – lmao We can only hope it’s a one way ticket.
punaise -
My class mighta had a half doz out of 30ish.
Sadly, I was not one. But, I did gain a valuable lesson. I’m no lawyer, but I do tend to read EVERYTHING. Starting at the top.
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….finally, lhp – CONGRATS on your case. (even if Buckner’s shadow floats around. I’m certain the non-judgemental ‘action’ is positive.)
with mega apologies to Matt who I can’t wait to read …
just wanna say that I’ve booked a flight into CT tomorrow and will be working for Lamont thru the primary – had a minibonus from work and some unused vacation and can’t think of a better use than taking back our democracy … taking up Jane’s call to get to New Haven and add some boots to the ground.
I’ll see if I can get more info when I’m there to share with folks about the possibility of virtual phone banks, etc and whatever else Jane and crew think useful.
So c’mon down or east or up and join us!
Do we know which congress-critters and Senators are involved wtih these contracts? Who took bribes and killed Marines?
Steve
Graet news siun!
siun walks the walk and talks the talk!
Great too… preview is my snarky cousin
Way to go siun!
GNN cited that Brooks ran up $2 million on corporate credit cards.
Now THAT’S quite the credit line.
Matt, the company website has some good pictures. You could probably grab one of those. I did see your caption, and anyway I already knew it was a different David Brooks — but the first time I saw an article about the DHB David Brooks, I was thoroughly confused by the similarity of the names. Then I got it — one David Brooks is a sleazy, prevaricating douchebag, and the other founded a body armor company.
OT There is some reason for guarded optimism about the situation in Lebanon. The key event was the decision of the Israelis not to escalate the conflict further. Israel was looking at a protracted war psychologically draining and ruinous for its economy. Lebanon sustained major damage to its infrastructure, general disruption of its economy, and more civilian deaths. Large numbers of Israeli and Lebanese civilians have also been traumatized and displaced.
While the costs were high to both sides, both Hezbollah and the Israeli Defense Force have made their points. Hezbollah showed it can stand up to the Israelis. Israel showed that if it does Lebanon, the Shia, and Hezbollah will pay a catastrophic price.
Meanwhile the elements of a peace deal were there all along and may now look preferable to the alternative.
The Israeli points are:
1) A quiet Northern border
2) An international force in South Lebanon under UN auspices: The Israelis originally wanted an international force without the UN to take on and disarm Hezbollah. This was unnecessarily confrontational, would have been hard to put together, and would have looked like yet another foreign occupation, something which both the Shia and Hezbollah have been very sensitive to. So while it may not seem like a big difference, it is really quite important.
3) Agreement that Hezbollah should be disarmed. Realistically, this will take a while but even before the current crisis there was talk of incorporating Hezbollah forces into the Lebanese army. A ban on further importation of rockets is critical and would need the approval of Hezbollah, Syria, and the Lebanese government and be part of any UN mandate.
4) Return of the captured Israeli soldiers
For Hezbollah the points are:
1) A quiet Southern border
2) Return of Lebanese and Hezbollah prisoners held by Israel
3) Cessation of Israeli overflights, and assassinations
4) Return of the Shaba Farms
The US and Condoleezza Rice’s role in all this is mostly not to screw up a deal that is begging to be made. Similarly, what is needed for both Hezbollah and the Israelis is to keep the inevitable posturing to a minimum and do what is in both their best interests.
suin, scarecrow, cosmo and ReDeb!
Thank you so much for finding a way to go to New Haven! Maybe more of us will be able to work it out. It would be so wonderful to have a large fdl contingent on the ground. Be sure to take tons of pictures and keep us posted as you can. Awesome!
sorry siun for suin…
Thanks BarbaraB.
The backup was the corporate logo with the “quality by design” line on it. That’s usually how I get my titles, from their own literature and logos, or backgrounds.
So I guess D.H. Brooks and old Mr. Addington have a no photo policy.) Where is the Paparazzi when we need them?
Eureka, I saw one, which I think I link to regarding the ‘party pics.’
Hugh 38:
That is extremely interesting. I think Israel has over 1,000 prisoners who have been held for quite a long time. If they comply with that it would be quite amazing. I hope the negoiations you’ve outlined come to pass. It’s heartening to say the least!
Matt O
Isn’t he the very first pix i n the Bat Mitzvah link?
Why isn’t this front page news? Why is this motherfucker not in jail?
Hi Jenny!
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Hello agave. Nice to see you!
Slideguy
I was wondering whether he and his crappy company are imune from suit or not.
That would be on heck of wrongful death/personal injury suit.
Any tort lawyers in the house?
Drive by …
Hugh @ 38
Keep your eye on the Litani River
http://earthchamber11.blogspot…..-wars.html
http://www.american.edu/ted/ice/litani.htm
Have a great day all!
loose –
Yeah, that’s the picture I was referencing in #43.
ember – I do that all the time … and punaise, I just can’t think of a better vacation!
Hugh – sadly, I do not come close to sharing your optimism and family of friends in Beirut, Ms Rice “not screwing up” is I believe a misunderstanding of the US role in this.
Matt – thank you for highlighting this issue. The number of troops without proper body armor has been so scandalous. One soldier wrote – after the Pentagon was claiming they had solved the problem – when I was corresponding with a number of soldiers in Iraq, their constant worry was the lack of body armor and some received the ceramic inserts but no vests while others got vests with no inserts … for shame!
Thanks.
Nice to see you.
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Matt, so can you swap them? Cause on my screen WSJ Brooks is still up
Hugh:
I was so hopeful reading your Leb/Isr war could break out into peace…but then I saw:
…”The US and Condoleezza Rice’s role in all this is mostly not to screw up a deal that is begging to be made.”…
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Bush/Bolton/Rice et al – ‘Who could imagine?’
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Sorry, I’m a tad bitter on this issue and our constantly debauching our overseas overtures. That are perfectly pointed out in that one sentence. I’m convinced it is deliberate sabotage. Peace is War.
loose –
Really? I switched it to the DHB company logo with the motto.
Are you clicking “Refresh Comments” or are you reloading the page?
Reload the page and it should show up with the changed image.
Ok. I hit “refresh” and now I have “quality by design”
Is that what I am supposed to be seeing?
Thanks Matt for a terrific post as per usual.
OfT JennyftB, completely agree, thanks Hugh, I hope, pray you are right. Hezbollah are Shiite and the Shiites work the Saudi Oil fields under a Sunni monarchy. US just announced 2.9 billion dollar deal to send Abrams Tanks over to protect Saudi
oil fieldsinfrastructure.lhp, it was changed around comment 18…
Blank Kluge
I saw your nice little acknowledgement on the last thread. So sweet.
Body armor could be the single ost powerful, wildfire issue in the November elections. Absolutely everybody gets the unfairness and the incompetence of this.
When combined with war profiteering, the sense of injustice is magnified. There WAS enough money but they were too busy passing it out to their buddies. Troop protection? Not so much.
Waiting to hear about your plans for a book :)
ember
Thanx. I just don’t want to see anybody get sued around here. This place is all about fairness and good faith behavior. It’s both a sword and a shield
LHP—the photo was swapped for the DHB logo over thirty minutes ago.
Yeah, the company logo.
Hell, Matt, just go out buy a platoon’s worth of little toy soldiers and some ketchup. Splay the toys around in as chaotic an arrangement as possible. Spray the arrangement w/ketchup (to taste of course, not too much, not too little. You’ll know it when you see it.)
Break out your digital camera and post the results.
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Hell, even the Prez could do that…oh, wait. He already is. Every fucking day.
lhp, I was glad you noticed it and spoke up.
egregious
I think you are so right about this being a potent campaign issue. Thank you Matt for bringing it up
Remember all those stories about parents privately buying body armour to ship over to their kids on the battlefaild?
I think every volunteer fire department and girl scout troop on LI did somekind of drive to finance independant buys of body armour.
Or so it seemed.
The very fact that DOD “sole sourced” the contract is what made it so valuable. however the company’s inability to keep up production with demand caused how many uneccesary deaths???
Oh yeah, it Cindy Sheehan all over again. How many irate greiving mothers do you think would speak up on this issue if they were informed about how preventable and unecessary the deaths of their children were?
lhp -
backatcha. You are GOOD. So glad you liked.
…and your little dog, too!
:~>
egregious, hope you were able to get some sleep.
siun, I share your pessimism, but emptywheel has a post where she argues that Condi is getting hammered by Rummy and DeadEye.
Pick Your Incompetent Cabinet Member
by emptywheel
“If I were to tell you a bunch of Republicans were lobbying to get one of Bush’s Cabinet Members fired or transferred for incompetence, who do you think that Cabinet Member would be? And if I told you this person was perceived as botching up the Middle East, being ignorant of the Middle East, allowing our enemies to take advantage of us… And what if I added that these Republicans expect this Cabinet Member’s policy to collapse within a few months?
Well, I guess that last bit–looking to the future for this person’s policy to collapse–is your tip off the conservatives are not calling for the sacking of Donald Rumsfeld, whose policies (notably his fantasy of “Transformation”) have already failed, and with it the entire Iraq War.
Nope, they’re happy with Rummy’s incompetence. It’s Condi they want to get rid of. (Hat tip to lukery.)…”
My take is Condi and a few others have been able to get the shrub to understand at least temporarily that if the Lebanon government falls, Israel is in a world of hurt.
Also since it’s a Republican White House, maybe a few of them remembered the Beirut Memorial, since it happened during Reagan’s tenure. *ilson was the first FDL’er to remind me of it.
ember/lhp –
Again, thanks for letting me know that the joke wasn’t easily picked up for some. I certainly didn’t see that at first.
Thanks again and I hope you didn’t think I was butting heads with you.
Matt
Butting heads? not at all. I was just worried about you catching a world of hurt. The WSJ has mega lawyers.
Matt O. – it can be nice to have an attorney on the staff:).
Matt O — I admit I was one of the slower ones on the uptake, but I was really, REALLY hoping it was the same DB. What I wouldn’t give to find DB’s been on the take, a payola baby.
I probably should poke around and see if DB has ever written anything for Heritage Foundation or TownHall.com — it would be a dead giveaway.
Matt O., If you intentionally exposed a 13 year old girl to public insults and ridicule, you’re reprehensible. If you didn’t intend it, then you’re grossly careless.
You could have posted the fact about the $10,000,000 bat mitzvah without the pictures and without naming the girl.
If what you’ve written about Brooks is true, he’s a criminal who should be brought to justice. But I don’t see the point of tarring the young girl.
Blank Kludge
Lebanon could sputter on for a while. It’s a testosterone thing. What this country can do at this point is to give diplomatic cover for a deal. I’m with you that it’s not clear they’re up to even this. What is going to grate on my nerves is, when and if there is a deal, Bush getting up on his hind legs and acting like his boneheaded ideas had something to do with it.
Rayne:
Now that Rayne’s admitted it… :)
lhp — I’m not a tort lawyer, but basically active military can’t sue for injuries in the line of duty. I know for sure they can’t sue the government, anyway. And sue DHB for what? The article doesn’t say wearing the vest got anyone killed or injured; the defective vests were recalled. You can’t sue a product manufacturer for not manufacturing a product you didn’t use, and it’s the government’s fault that soldiers were sent out without body armor.
The company is being looked at by the SEC, too, the stock’s been delisted, they just settled a shareholder class action, and I wouldn’t bet on a lot of products liability insurance either. The odd thing is that DHB just announced it got another government contract. If you enjoy reading SEC filings — and who, pray tell, does not? — the company website Matt links to has them. If I were more curious, I’d take a look at the contingent liability provisions in the financials, but c’mon. DHB is trading in the pink sheets. Blow on it too hard and it’s in Chapter 11.
Hugh:
If he were ’smart’ he’d share ‘credit’ (unlike ‘blame’) w/Poodle over the Pond.
Sadly more will die as we wait and watch and hope.
(I think W’s ‘thinking’ is reflected by this Fundie-type, who I believe is actually sincere:
Would a cease-fire REALLY save live? or just delay the inevitable..? And I said, if I wake up tommorow alive b/c lack of bombing and bullets, the HELL YES LIVES ARE SAVED!)
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gotta shaddup now. making self too crayzee.
Godot.
10 Million dollars for an event. It was stunning when it was first reported and should be brought up at every opportunity.
I feel kind of sorry for his daughter. Will she ever be able to feel as though future celebrations are adequate?
Can anyone remember how much Kenny Boy’s birthday party for his wife cost?
Matt O. : I am so proud to read you, because I just know someday we’ll say, “We knew him way back when…”
No conservative, not one, that I’ve talked to about this has been willing to say he or she is concerned about the body armor issue.
Why do they think voicing criticism is so unpatriotic? Did the whole wingersphere go nuts after 9/11?
jim
IIRC the story of the $10 mill party was fairly widely reported. I seem to recall the Aerosmith and Fitty Cent thing being talked about in the MSM.
So, Matt didn’t “out” the kid. her father did.
The damn bat-mitzvah story is from the New York Daily News which has a monster circulation http://www.nydailynews.com/new…..4735c.html
The body armor issue was out there as the perfect issue for the last presidential along with the lack of uparmored humvees … a number of us hoped Kerry would run hard on it but while he mentioned it at times, he never took it on as a critical example of the disaster that is W.
On Lebanon, the assumption that the US wants things to settle down is off I think … this is not a surprise to Washington and the rush shipments of more arms and the veto of a ceasefire certainly are not signs of an admin that wants resolution … today, Israel was bombing on the border with Syria … just barely inside Lebanon and W was talking tough yesterday on Iran (read the transcripts of his press con with Poodle).
The ray of hope depends on accepting the idea that Israel has the right to invade other countries at will, to murder 600 civilians and destroy the infrastructure and the environment (see oil spill on Lebanon coast) … this is not hope, these are war crimes and we are funding them.
Jim at 74 – this was greatly broadcast, I am sure, Internationally.
Jim –
I understand your point. However, I want to point out that I didn’t name her myself. Indirectly, yes, but not by writing her name out in the post.
I would also like to point out that any that searches for articles on the party itself produces her name. I just wanted to show people pictures of the event.
Sources like the Jerusalem Post, sfgate.com, etc. all named her. I didn’t.
In fact, C&L wrote a post on it, hat tipping Paul Rieckhoff from IAVA, linking to the GNN site that I linked to. Additionally, C&L linked to the NYDN post about the party that specifically names her.
Sleep is highly overrated anyway. (4am here)
Usually I don’t make tiny corrections but single post important => single most important. Though if this one post were to be published in a nationally read newspaper….
last year, the circulation of the NY Daily News was 735,536.
I think it’s odd that a newbie commenter like “Jim” should leap to the spurious defense of a war profiteer who has an obscene sense of pecuniary ostentation …
Good post, and you didn’t even have to get into the part where the Army stopped allowing troops to supply their own armor, like the superior Dragon Skin and faked tests to make it look like they were doing this inthe troops best interests instead of trying to protect DHB’s stock price.
Margot
i don’t think the right wing rank and file could concieve of the level of evil it would take to deliberately enter into a contract for body armour that would cause an insuffcient supply chain to meet demand.
you know it used to be that contracting officers in the various departments were career civil servants. It was bushco that suddenly made them political appointees.
At the time, when I first heard about it, I was puzzled b/c these jobs are hard tedious work and do not pay spectacularly well, had no glamour, ewtc. and didn’t seem like they would be attractive patronage positions.
You realize that the “Plum Book” under Bushco is the bigggest it has ever been? you know that, right?
Now, after Savafian. After what Bunnytine had to say when she blew the whistle, NOW after the harm has been done, I get to smack my hand on the forhead and say “of course”.
It was hidden in plain sight.
The information contained in this post is obscene, ranging from the sole-supplier contract to Brooks’ $70 million in compensation to the $10 million Bat Mitzvah, but the most obscene part is the failure of the body armor to do what the government paid Brooks for it to do.
flounder –
I wish I had the time to fully document such things. But I remember a dKos post on the Dragon Skin vest that included videos of its testing.
Jim wrt to your 5:10
1. Could you dial it back a little, because you’re addressing someone who posts at FDL.
We always try to treat our posters with respect and the appropriate “tone.” The tolerances wrt “tone” are more generous if you want to go after a commenter.
2. I appreciate your desire to take the high road. I think that’s a good thing, but
Brooks is heavily insulated as a result of being a neocon at the NYT’s and we’re not playing canasta here.
If we have a soundbyte or photo that’s accurate, “works” and doesn’t meet the legal definition of slander, I’m not sure we’re in a position to not use it, because it doesn’t meet our high moral standards. It’s our tax dollars funding those bombs falling on Lebanon and paying for torture in secret prisons.
My # 88
that should be “do NOT pay spectacularly well”
flounder – In the heat of the dragon skin/prohibition of using own armour news… (IIRC) I believe Rumsfield was outfitted with dragon skin. It was explained that he was just testing it.
This post raises a number of questions, the answers to which will never provide solace to any family which lost a loved one who was killed wearing inferior body armor, or any family left to care for a servicemember injured while wearing this crap.
One – who did Brooks know that he was able to get this exclusive contract?
Two – who on the other end of the contract was asking the questions – one of which should have been “how is this company qualified to produce this item?”
Three – who in the Pentagon is charged with overseeing quality control – shouldn’t someone have to make sure that the product performs as it is supposed to?
Four – why is our government unable to find someone to make a quality product at a reasonable price?
Five – when it became clear that the body armor was defective and/or ineffective, why didn’t the government make sure that each soldier was issued a replacement product?
Six – who decided that troops wearing non-government-issued body armor would forfeit government benefits and/or life insurance if killed or injured wearing it, forcing troops to choose between armor known to be defective – which could get them killed – and armor proven to be of better quality that might save their lives?
Seven – what will it take to hold our government accountable for the lives it is sending into harm’s way?
This stuff just makes my blood boil. Considering the number of things that have that effect on me these days, it’s a wonder my blood has not been reduced to sludge.
Jim,
This party was widely reported in the Corporate Media. I even knew some of the details, and I don’t waste my time on the gossip pages.
You will hear me talk about not dragging kids into an argument about their parents, but this kid was arguably already made into a public figure by her father’s efforts. So, future Judy Miller anyone?
Agave: Hey, good to see you here. There are quite a few Atriots here.
J in Sacto: *waves*. Are you going to Drinking Liberally this Thursday?
I am sure that our troops loved hearing about the 10 million dollar event while they were piecing together scraps of body armour. It would certainly go over equally well all over the world.
John –
Thanks for the defense. However, you wrote, “you’re addressing someone who posts at FDL,” and I don’t want anybody here to think I must be curtsied or addressed as mister, etc. I’m just a regular Joe that cares. I hope to be spoken to with respect, sure, but at the same time I wouldn’t want anybody to hold back criticism, right or wrong, either.
2. It sounds like you think this David Brooks is the columnist, which it isn’t. I specifically changed the heading picture because some people didn’t understand that it was a joke because of the similar names. I apologize for getting anybody confused on that.
egragious – if you are still here – and anyone who missed my note yesterday …
an update on MFI – he is just back from Iraq and is horrified by what he saw on the ground there … says it is the worst he has seen (and he served as peacekeeper in Bosnia and Lebanon at their worst) – he is extremely concerned for what is happening to children there and the number forced to do dreadful things simply to eat … and he is very concerned about reports in Iraqi press of an upcoming dissolution of the already ruined elected govt:
http://gorillasguides.blogspot…..e-and.html
for a sense of what Lebanese think of Ms Rice, see his latest post at the link in my name above.
Matt O- Yeah there was a Dkos post, to find anything on their search takes me all day. The test was from the Dragon Skin manufacturer. The Pentagon claimed it did its own tests and that it wasn’t up to snuff. The thing is no one has seen any documentation from those tests or that they even exist. Does bring up the point ember makes that Rummy, generals, and special forces keep using the armor that isn’t good enough for the infantry.
Guess I missed Jim’s comments (just spilled an entire cup of coffee on my keyboard), but the daughter’s lavish party is in the public domain.
Matt, your post is really wonderful and I have learned a lot by reading it.
Thanks Matt.
Thanks for catching that I whiffed on Bobo. I was so hopeful it was him, but….
Looks like we have a new troll, how droll. Key philosophical question: concern, or ping?
what is a “ping troll”? Is that someone who pings the site with a link to their own article and that article is a thumbs down on the post? My guess…???
siun,
I hope you can find some way to get mfi’s account of Iraq into the CT press before August 8.
Bush has a lid on the bad news getting out about how bad it is.
WaPo had a terrific story last week from the US soldier’s pov about how bad it is, but that doesn’t begin to tell the real tragedy.
Department of Defense that outlined the armor specifications and not the manufacturer.
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I am curious who designed the armor and why the DOD put forth faulty designs?
egrigious
What is a ping troll? Like a driveby?
JennyftB, see 5:10.
oh heck- my cookies got scrambled again!!!
Hiya Matt O. !!!! xxoo M/VG
Eureka
From back in my Office of Inspector general days:
One of the best ways to rig a contract is to make yourRFP or design spec such that only one manufacturer can meet it. Sometimes so it won’t be too, too obvious they list is as “as designed or as equal” and then reject every proposed substitution as not being equal.
This is contract fraud/bid rigging 101.
I remeber reading about the flaws and if I remeber the vests were not up to specs. The ceramic was brittle, They took one shot and broke like a dinner plate, leaving the soldier with a bag of shards and dust on his chest
Maybe ping is the wrong term. Darn, and after I read the whole wiki article John Casper gave us.
It’s possible that sleep isn’t highly overrated after all.
lhp and M/VG – I think it is a drive-by but egregious is the expert.
I’m gonna change my vote to drive-by.
John Casper -
Hmm. I can’t find the 5:10. Was it a comment of yours? The numbers must have shifted!
Jenny-f-t-b — I was jes’ saying. Like most of us weren’t thinking or wishing the same thing…heh.
Call it preemptive schadenfreude.
Jim — not only was it in the MSM about the cost of this party, but any 13-year-old who didn’t raise a bloody stink that the press recorded about the expenditure of this kind of money must be another Paris Hilton in the making. My daughter, at 12 years of age, has far too much sense, morals and ethics to every allow me to spend that much money on a party for anything, let alone her. She’d disown me.
Gad, I hate to think what that kind of money would do for any small-to-mid-sized school district in this country. A nearby city had to layoff a mess of teachers this year because of a couple million dollar shortfall because of urban flight reducing revenues dramatically.
Immoral.
ember- okay, for some reason I couldn’t find that particular comment earlier, so I assumed it had been deleted. But, you are correct imo- ping trolls have the link to the blog article as their name.
“Jim says:
July 29th, 2006 at 5:10 pm
Matt O., If you intentionally exposed a 13 year old girl to public insults and ridicule, you’re reprehensible. If you didn’t intend it, then you’re grossly careless.
You could have posted the fact about the $10,000,000 bat mitzvah without the pictures and without naming the girl.
If what you’ve written about Brooks is true, he’s a criminal who should be brought to justice. But I don’t see the point of tarring the young girl.”
egregious, I sure hope that you are able to get some long and sound sleep soon.
lhp – Thanks.
Call it preemptive schadenfreude.
“Preemptive schadenfreude”
This is too cool.
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egregious, How long will you be in Russia?
Donna Marie
Thank you.
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Aside from the sheer obscenity of spending $10 million on any kind of party for anyone, imagine the psychological blow it is to other Bat Mitzvah-eligible girls whose parents can’t afford to spend that kind of money even if they were evil enough to want to…
I like the *ping* word. It’s an onomatopoeia!
Driveby = ping!
egregious
After so many folks recommended that i watch “The Secret of Roan Inish” I bought a copy off Amazon. Near the end of the movie they give the chilled baby soup made of seaweed and mussels “as only the women of Roan Innish know how to make”.
My family was from the west of Ireland and although I had never eaten, I knew about mussel and seaweed soup and said as much to littleprop.
At here request we bought some mussels and powdered japanese seaweed today and made soup. I was Very tired at the time and thinking about going to bed before the sun even set.
Well, first–THIS STUFF TASTES GREAT
second–it is like non caffiene rocket fuel. It really does feel like it could bring you back from the brink of death.
I could go dancing right now.
Ans the kitchen smelled so good while it was cooking. Like a fresh clean breeze off the ocean.
Though i have had both hot (which is best) and cold (still nice) because there is no fat in it you can eat it at any temp.
If you get worn out from too much doctoring try this:
2 lbs mussels
bay leaves (I use rather a lot, you may want to keep it to 4 or 5)
1 1/2 – 2 cupsPotato cut in 1/2 inch dice
same amount onion diced
3-4 (or more)Cabbage finely shredded
garlic (I probaly use too much, but have at leat 6 whole leeled cloves)
Sea weed powder (or I expect you could use soaked nouri
water and sea weed at bottom of pot
the a layerof musselsand bay leaves
then a layer of potato
layer of onion
layer of cabbage
garlic
water to as close to top of pot as seems advisable
Boil about 15 minutes until potaots are tender (you don’t want to overcook the mussels to rubber)
You will feel newly egregious. I swear.
And the only thing in it with any descerable calories is the potato, yet it is filling at tiney amounts. this stuff is amazing.
John Casper 117 -
Thanks for clarifying. That is not a very civil comment.
OT previous thread- Spork- I tried track down the origin of the photo- turns out it was posted earlier today on the Lamont blog, and reference is this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nedlamont/200997723/
doesn’t say who took the photo, however, but I have emailed the Ned campaign with the question, and all of the great comments on earlier thread re: “The Pic”
Holy Shit! Matt O- this is UNBELIEVABLE!!! Fire Dog Lake people Rock for this brilliant investigative reporting and for the super smart way they ran the ball in the Lamont primary. Who could ever forget the KISS float, and the way that every step in the Lieberman campaign was critiqued – from the pseudo bumper stickers to the buttons.
But this piece here, it blows Brooks out of the water. So much for Neocon morality and critical evaluation of the situation. He may lose his NYTimes position over this (the faster the better!)[ Moderator: different Brooks! ]
Richmond –
As I have stated before, this is NOT the David Brooks of the New York Times.
I repeat, this is NOT the David Brooks of the New York Times.
Richmond, I made the same mistake, it’s not the NYT’s Brooks, but appreciate your enthusiasm.
My 127
that 2-4 cups of cabbage
basically one large head
I found his picture on google if you want to put it up. It ain’t pretty. But his daughter’s picture is on the same page so I don’t want to give a link. Just google “‘david h. brooks’ bat mitzvah”
hit F5 and reload your page — Richmond’s comment was corrected …
In Russia until the Lamont Victory Party Day.
At 5am, it’s light outside. Well at least we don’t work Sundays unless a kid comes through the ER. Can be a critical newborn case.
We’re gonna go out somewhere green and beautiful and just wander and contemplate the beauty of life.
Riesz –
Thanks but I think I have enough right now.
darn, couldn’t they just have David Brooks1 and David Brooks2 to keep things simple. Oh, I know, they would all want to be David Brooks1.
lhp- the last time I ate *one* clam I was really sick- I asked the person I was staying with if he had heard me get up in the night. He said “yeah- it was like a four act opera”. So, I am really really leary of repeating this- because clams are bivalves and mussels are bivalves, etc. Breaks my heart, bec. I love oyster dressing for the turkey. Anyway, is this something that would never be the same without the mussels/ bivalves, or is there some alternative for what sounds like a really delicious treat?
I don’t know why anyone would be particularly shocked or surprised that a man whose greed surpasses his humanity, and who was willing to endanger the lives of troops fighting in the name of this country, would exercise any restraint or have any sense of priorities in any other area of his life.
Would also be interested to know what rabbi would condone or be part of such an excessive display connected to or associated with a serious religious rite of passage.
*ilson
Nice work. Feel free to strike out my 6:01 as well.
I agree that it’s nuts to spend that kind of money on a party, but (IMHO) if it was his money, it was his choice. (Of course, sounds like maybe it wasn’t his money, but that’s another issue.) I just think that kind of ridiculously conspicuous consumption is Nature’s way of recycling wealth from idiots to people who will use it better. The money didn’t disappear; the people who got it will pay taxes on it and spend either the rest or invest it, and so it goes on.
*ilson -
I was expecting to see: “David Brooks is the kindest, most wonderful…”
LOL. I’m starting to look forward to your revisions.
The NY Times editorial endorsing Ned is up. “If Mr. Lieberman had once stood up and taken the lead in saying that there were some places a president had no right to take his country even during a time of war, neither he nor this page would be where we are today. But by suggesting that there is no principled space for that kind of opposition, he has forfeited his role as a conscience of his party, and has forfeited our support. “, That is only one of the articles. It’s worth signing on to the times to read it, and I don’t think it’s behind the Times Select wall.
Average price for regular gasoline 7/29/06 in 50 states and DC
$3.00 plus 23 states
$2.90 plus 25 states
$2.80 plus 3 states
Average national price: $3.010
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057 9/5/2005
Highest average price: Hawaii $3.385
Lowest average price: South Carolina $2.843
BarbaraB –
I agree. His money, his choice. My problem was HOW he got that money. Not to mention spending that much money on a party is just ridiculous.
His choice, indeed, however foolish.
Hugh
Do you happen to have a list of average prices for regular Bat Mitzvahs in 50 states and DC?
About the NY Times endorsement. We got the scoop early but I’m wondering if candidates get a heads-up as a general rule. Probably do.
Hugh – paid $3.11 today in MD, north of Baltimore. $45.95 to fill my tank.
lhp
I just knew little tiny bits of info, I sure didn’t know the extent. Bunnytine Greenhouse is an example of the person who I want as a civil servant. She’s professional, and she cares.
We never see *ilson sweat but we can hear a symphony of keys tapping away.)
Eureka Springs -
I can see that *ilson never, ever let’s you see him sweat. You’ve gotta love that in a moderator. :)
I dunno about ping trolls, but ‘ping’ is a manual command to check whether your connection is functioning and/or vice/versa the site is inoperative. It’ll send ‘blank’ packets back and forth. If you see no packet loss, the site you ‘ping’ is ‘up’. (Think it comes out of analogy to sonar: ping retuns ‘blip’ – confirming existence ‘out there’. If you cannot connect to the site, the problem is therefore isolated to some setting or other problem local to you (that is – YOUR computer; not the line, not the Toobz, and not the site.)
I was educated a bit the other day on this issue. I used the ping command to verify that FDL was indeed up and online and sending and receiving packets. Solution turned out (after 8 long hrs of frustration) to be clearing the browser’s cache.
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“It was hidden in plain sight.”
That is going to be the motto that follows this entire folly of a gov’t we currently have in power.
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lhp -
Glad you had fun w/mussels and seaweed. It does sound delish. Thanks for putting up the recipe. It may find a place in my own humble repetiore. (Trust me, to even consider cooking something outside of pasta or omelettes is something to be noted.)
Getcher NYTimes Lamont endorsement right here.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07…..0sun1.html
NYTimes, July 30, 2006
Editorial
A Senate Race in Connecticut
Earlier this year, Senator Joseph Lieberman’s seat seemed so secure that — legend has it — some people at the Republican nominating convention in Connecticut started making bleating noises when the party picked a presumed sacrificial lamb to run against the three-term senator, who has been a fixture in Connecticut politics for more than 35 years.
But Mr. Lieberman is now in a tough Democratic primary against a little-known challenger, Ned Lamont. The race has taken on a national character. Mr. Lieberman’s friends see it as an attempt by hysterical antiwar bloggers to oust a giant of the Senate for the crime of bipartisanship. Lamont backers — most of whom seem more passionate about being Lieberman opponents — say that as one of the staunchest supporters of the Iraq war, Mr. Lieberman has betrayed his party by cozying up to President Bush.
This primary would never have happened absent Iraq. It’s true that Mr. Lieberman has fallen in love with his image as the nation’s moral compass. But if pomposity were a disqualification, the Senate would never be able to call a quorum. He has voted with his party in opposing the destructive Bush tax cuts, and despite some unappealing rhetoric in the Terri Schiavo case, he has strongly supported a woman’s right to choose. He has been one of the Senate’s most creative thinkers about the environment and energy conservation.
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But this race is not about résumés. The United States is at a critical point in its history, and Mr. Lieberman has chosen a controversial role to play. The voters in Connecticut will have to judge whether it is the right one.
As Mr. Lieberman sees it, this is a fight for the soul of the Democratic Party — his moderate fair-mindedness against a partisan radicalism that alienates most Americans. “What kind of Democratic Party are we going to have?” he asked in an interview with New York magazine. “You’ve got to agree 100 percent, or you’re not a good Democrat?”
That’s far from the issue. Mr. Lieberman is not just a senator who works well with members of the other party. And there is a reason that while other Democrats supported the war, he has become the only target. In his effort to appear above the partisan fray, he has become one of the Bush administration’s most useful allies as the president tries to turn the war on terror into an excuse for radical changes in how this country operates.
Citing national security, Mr. Bush continually tries to undermine restraints on the executive branch: the system of checks and balances, international accords on the treatment of prisoners, the nation’s longtime principles of justice. His administration has depicted any questions or criticism of his policies as giving aid and comfort to the terrorists. And Mr. Lieberman has helped that effort. He once denounced Democrats who were “more focused on how President Bush took America into the war in Iraq” than on supporting the war’s progress.
At this moment, with a Republican president intent on drastically expanding his powers with the support of the Republican House and Senate, it is critical that the minority party serve as a responsible, but vigorous, watchdog. That does not require shrillness or absolutism. But this is no time for a man with Mr. Lieberman’s ability to command Republicans’ attention to become their enabler, and embrace a role as the president’s defender.
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On the Armed Services Committee, Mr. Lieberman has left it to Republicans like Lindsey Graham of South Carolina to investigate the administration’s actions. In 2004, Mr. Lieberman praised Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for expressing regret about Abu Ghraib, then added: “I cannot help but say, however, that those who were responsible for killing 3,000 Americans on September 11th, 2001, never apologized.” To suggest even rhetorically that the American military could be held to the same standard of behavior as terrorists is outrageous, and a good example of how avidly the senator has adopted the Bush spin and helped the administration avoid accounting for Abu Ghraib.
Mr. Lieberman prides himself on being a legal thinker and a champion of civil liberties. But he appointed himself defender of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and the administration’s policy of holding hundreds of foreign citizens in prison without any due process. He seconded Mr. Gonzales’s sneering reference to the “quaint” provisions of the Geneva Conventions. He has shown no interest in prodding his Republican friends into investigating how the administration misled the nation about Iraq’s weapons. There is no use having a senator famous for getting along with Republicans if he never challenges them on issues of profound importance.
If Mr. Lieberman had once stood up and taken the lead in saying that there were some places a president had no right to take his country even during a time of war, neither he nor this page would be where we are today. But by suggesting that there is no principled space for that kind of opposition, he has forfeited his role as a conscience of his party, and has forfeited our support.
Mr. Lamont, a wealthy businessman from Greenwich, seems smart and moderate, and he showed spine in challenging the senator while other Democrats groused privately. He does not have his opponent’s grasp of policy yet. But this primary is not about Mr. Lieberman’s legislative record. Instead it has become a referendum on his warped version of bipartisanship, in which the never-ending war on terror becomes an excuse for silence and inaction. We endorse Ned Lamont in the Democratic primary for Senate in Connecticut.
Yeah – his money/his choice.
Too bad he didn’t choose to put more money into the actual product that was supposed to protect our troops, huh?
Now I am curious — I have noticed in the last couple of weeks there would be a curious numbered “comment” that had part of the title of the post and a sentence or two from the post itself. Could not figure out what someone was doing other that a search feature of some sort.
Is that a ping troll? And what is there point of such replicating a few sentences?
M
at 140
Since today was my very fist taste of it (up until now it was only something I had heard about–the reason you put the cabbage in is so that the neighbors wouldn’t know that you were so poor you had to eat seaweed)I haven’t had a chance to experiment.
I don’t know if any non hard shell would make that wondeful smell, but who knows? Maybe a firm fin fish might work. Swordfish? Can you eat scallops?
Were you ever able to eat clams before that? maybe you just had a bad clam? not that unusual. If it just made sick to your stomache (as opposed to hives or other anaphylatic symptoms) it might jsut have been a single bad experience.
Since I grew up harvesting clams and musseld for the table (one of my cousins is still a commercial fisherman or “bayman” as we call them here), I have had more than my fair share of bad tummys from bivalves.
It never stopped from from eating them (scallops however, close my throught and sinuses)
Blank K – It was hidden in plain sight and YoYo = you are on your own, are a couple of good ones from this day.
Slideguy 46
That this story is news to many of the well-informed Pupsters here, is what I had in mind in my comments in Anne’s discussion of the press in the previous thread.
My complaint is that they cover so very few stories – - and don’t even get those right – - and there are thousands of other important stories out there.
Seems like the paper that looked into a story like this could make a name for itself.
flounder, Matt, here are some dKos articles about DHB Industries. The one you mean with the videos is probably “OUTRAGE: Pentagon LIES about body armor”.
I rarely can find anything using the dKos search engine either. I just use google with “dailykos” among the search terms.
GrandmaJ — those are ‘trackbacks’ where another blog is referencing this blog and their software posts a brief excerpt here for our information…
lhp- thanks- I don’t know what it is with the clams. That was the second time I a “toilet bowl” experience with clams- my friend ate 25 clams from the same batch and was not affected!!! After the first time I did try oysters again, and they were okay…(and I think I also had mussels w/o bad effects) so, I thought I’d try one clam… Scallops are okay… swordfish wonderful if fresh.. so, thanks… sorry all for going so OT…
The NYT endorsement is well thought out. It avoids the trap of saying it’s all about the war, and illuminates Lieberman’s reprehensible self-adopted role as Bush lapdog. I only wish it would have probed a little more deeply with regard to the issue of choice than ” despite some unappealing rhetoric in the Terri Schiavo case, he has strongly supported a woman’s right to choose.” Short ride, anyone? Do I hear “Alito”?
That is a great endorsement by the NYTimes. Just the recounting of Holy Joe’s actions put a knot in my stomach. This:
is a prime example of how disgustingly manipulative he is. Who do you think you’re fooling, JOE??? Horrible man.
I wonder if the president wears the same kind of vest?
Thanks *ilson. That makes sense.
lhp- p.s. if it had only been a “bad tummy” that would have been okay- it was more like “I hope I can get to the phone in case I need to call an ambulance… or maybe I’d rather be put out of my misery right now…”
IMO, one Ned’s greatest weaknesses with alot of voters was his lack of explicitly legislative experience. Nothing remedies that quite so well as a NYT’s endorsement. Wouldn’t it be great if the WaPo would follow their lead.
ccmask –
No, no. That’s a transmitter device. ;)
M
The batch doesn’t matter.
The thing with clams and mussles is you can never put one in the pot if it is not tightly closed.
it is the individual critter that gets you.
John Casper 170 -
This endorsement is so great because CT is in some ways a bedroom community of NY. I wonder what the subscription numbers are in CT. I bet they’re very high.
And I think I heard today that the WaPo is also endorsing Ned, although I can’t remember the source….
Re: Jenny from the Blog
“And I think I heard today that the WaPo is also endorsing Ned, although I can’t remember the source….”
Can anyone confirm that?
I just checked on the WaPO — nothing there yet that’s Nedalicious
M -
Different kinds of shellfish hit people in different ways. Clams, oysters, shrimp, crab, and other stuff may all come from the sea, and some of them may look similar, but they don’t affect people in the same way. Pick yourself another seafood you haven’t had trouble with (even a firm fish, as opposed to shellfish), and give it a shot.
And if you are still worried, maybe invite an MD friend over for dinner that night.
neuro -
I probably shouldn’t have put that rumor out without substantiation, but I’m pretty sure I read it someplace today. Should have waited until I found the source. I’ll go look.
I think the Times endorsement is fine as it is. the emdorsement editorial is no place for an in depth exploration of their respective postions. it hit the high spots and introduced Ned to anybody who hasn’t heard of him.
It also does a nice job of undermining leiberman.
I think it does the job
if the WaPo also endorses our man, Joe is toast — that would be such a signal that “the big boys” have dumped him …
*ilson, we don’t say this often enough around here: big thanks to the moderators, for keeping us civil and polite!
Between beating back the trolls and correcting problematic posts, you all do great work to make this a fun place to argue and laugh.
On “Ping.” I used to see the term in FReeperville and got an idea of what they use it for, but there’s a page on FR in the dKospedia with an explanation:
Can’t find much on the phrase “ping troll.” Maybe something to do with spoofing or sockpuppetry?
Oh, and nice post, Matt. Glad you changed the picture. ;-)
“Different kinds of shellfish hit people in different ways.”
Yeah, I bit into a Lieberfish once that made me feel queasy for the next six years…
The endorsement was a fastball right down the middle. STRIKE!
Peterr — thanks for the thanks — without moderators, this place would make Lord of the Flies seem like Mary Poppins. Interlopers would wreck the place deliberately.
It’s also kinda fun being a Foucaultian PanOpticon …
might be good to stick with driveby since that what the troll hits feel like.
Hmm. I can’t find a link to backup my comment re: WaPo. I read and hear so much sometimes it’s a hopeless jumble. Hope I didn’t jinx it.
NYT money quote for me is:
“There is no use having a senator famous for getting along with Republicans if he never challenges them on issues of profound importance.”
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Had enough?
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*ilson – think maybe H.Houdini is a better descriptor for you.
(How come my google news setting ‘Ned Lamont’ won’t return this endorsement?) “Looking…” (again).
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PING: here’s a link from the folks who know alot, and coinkidentally, Poodles destination, is it tomorrow?
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/pro…..6057.shtml
…but I should add, it looks like Nedobismol will soon take care of the problem.
Trollpatrol,
Racist comment at 6:11 #152 previous thread. Not Anne’s, the other one.
The NYT has managed to take all the shine off Joe’s bi-partisan appeal by revealing that what he brings to the table is not a willingness to represent the Democratic agenda in a cooperative way, but a willingness to jettison the Democratic agenda in order to be thought of as a nice guy.
In my book, if Dems and Republicans want to be the bestest of friends and have the jolliest of times when they are off the clock, that’s just peachy, but when my Democratic representative is in committee meetings and giving speeches and voting, I want him/her to be the toughest, meanest SOB he/she has to be in order to represent the Democratic position. It’s all well and good to “work well together,” but there’s a huge difference between that and selling out your constituents.
I bet Bushco buys another Rovian hit on the NYT now.
*ilson @ 174 sez:
Nedalicious
Heh.
Kinky, but “heh.”
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Egregious —- check that comment again — there’s nothing wrong with praising Maxine Waters, is there ?
*ilson, I checked earlier and all I found was this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..tml?sub=AR
[] “Lieberman is accustomed to the rough and tumble of politics, and can be combative in his own defense, as he showed during a recent debate. But he said he has been jarred by the intensity of Democratic anger toward Bush — and, by extension, toward him. Liberal bloggers have called Lieberman a “liar” and a “weasel.”
“It’s not just opposition to Bush,” he said. “The hatred is so deep.”
That Democratic ire “raises larger questions about our politics,” Lieberman added. He thinks it ultimately undermines the effectiveness of government. But he makes no apology for his position on the war, having resolved long ago that he would not “be part of a partisan response.”[]…
[] “Lieberman, the son of a Stamford liquor-store owner, began his career as an ambitious progressive. But he shed his liberal image after losing a 1980 House race, emerging as a law-and-order moderate during a stint as Connecticut attorney general. Lieberman took on phony charities, blocked an off-track betting parlor, and criticized “ladies’ night” bar specials for discriminating against men. When he took on Sen. Lowell P. Weicker Jr. in 1988, he ran so far to the right of the moderate Republican that conservative icon William F. Buckley Jr. pitched in as a Lieberman fundraiser.”
Before becoming a pastor, I did catering work. Not a whole lot of bat mitzvahs where I was, but tons of weddings. Between the catering experiences and the pastoring experiences, the “can you top this?” nature of some of the celebrations is an abomination beyond belief.
When pastors/rabbis/church musicians/cantors get together, one topic of conversation is always the latest wedding/confirmation/bar- or bat- mitzvah celebration abominations. Even if the budget isn’t $10 million, abomination is too light a word for some of the events.
Matt, thanks for bringing yet another mess to the surface. (Though it being right before dinner, I probably should have waited to read FDL . . .)
OMG.
Mr. Littledog asked me to read the endorsement to him, and as I spoke the last sentence – - “We endorse Ned Lamont in the Democratic primary for Senate in Connecticut” – - I burst into tears!
I was not expecting that, but we had stopped to agree that they really “get it” several times as I read, so I shouldn’t have been surprised.
What a complete and utter refutation of the weasely, spineless politicos who are running this country.
No wonder the tears came. It was the first thing I’ve read in years that sounded like the America I have believed in all my life, and that I thought we had lost.
Reading that was like coming to the end of a terrific movie where Right wins out – - the kind that makes your heart full. All that was lacking was the music rising in the background.
Wait . . . is that America the Beautiful?
There’s some good stuff in the NYT’s endorsement, but my personal favorite is:
Go Ned!
Oh beautiful for spacious skies…
“by suggesting that there is no principled space for that kind of opposition”
Perhaps Lieberman’s greatest sin.
and your little dog, too
I hear Ray Charles on his piano . . .
*ilson
Nice work, Mr. Mod.
Damn. Just as I type one, out pops another.
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“Foucaultian PanOpticon …”
I actually kinda know what that means. Kludge trudge to library again tommorow, methinks. Today’s venture brought back CD’s by Lucky Dube (never heard of him till my musically talented true friend made a recommend) Neville Bros/Fiyou on the Bayou (which I’m fond of.) and White Stripes ‘Get Behind Me, Satan’.
Have I thanked my librarian friends yet today?
*ilson
Can we call you “Mr. Mod” from now on?
Will you agree to wear one of those “Mod” suits like the guys in the early British Invasion bands?
*ilson, you are such a tease!
Good Condi video…
Hairy Talks or Hair in Eyes?
July 28
CNN’S Jeanne Moos examine how a widely published photo of Condi Rice is more than meets the eye.
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/s…..9&src=
Peterr 199
Oh, shoot. Now I’m leaking again.
I was such a nebbish that I never had to face the choice of Rocker or Mod that so troubled the youth of my generation …
by the way, there are several other moderators that lurk here too — with my orange-red hair, I’m just the flamboyant one …
Wonder if Gail Collins wrote the NYT endorsement? She was just about my favorite Times Op-Ed columnist before she was promoted to editorial page editor.
She’s good.
Hu’s On First
(We take you now to the Oval Office.)
George: Condi! Nice to see you. What’s happening?
Condi: Sir, I have the report here about the new leader of China.
George: Great. Lay it on me.
Condi: Hu is the new leader of China.
George: That’s what I want to know.
Condi: That’s what I’m telling you.
George: That’s what I’m asking you. Who is the new leader of China?
Condi: Yes.
George: I mean the fellow’s name.
Condi: Hu.
George: The guy in China.
Condi: Hu.
George: The new leader of China.
Condi: Hu.
George: The Chinaman!
Condi: Hu is leading China.
George: Now whaddya’ asking me for?
Condi: I’m telling you Hu is leading China.
George: Well, I’m asking you. Who is leading China?
Condi: That’s the man’s name.
George: That’s who’s name?
Condi: Yes.
George: Will you or will you not tell me the name of the new leader
of China?
Condi: Yes, sir.
George: Yassir? Yassir Arafat is in China? I thought he was in the Middle East.
Condi: That’s correct.
George: Then who is in China?
Condi: Yes, sir.
George: Yassir is in China?
Condi: No, sir.
George: Then who is?
Condi: Yes, sir.
George: Yassir?
Condi: No, sir.
George: Look, Condi. I need to know the name of the new leader of
China. Get me the Secretary General of the U.N. on the phone.
Condi: Kofi?
George: No, thanks.
*ilson- but you are doing the heavy lifting right now…
I forgot the link: The rest of it is there.
http://politicalhumor.about.co…..nfirst.htm
*ilson, and you have been here practically all day today.
LOL ccmask
I had seen that before but it’s as appropriate now as ever.
Why did Petty and Nicks soil their otherwise stellar careers by being corporate ho’s. Same agent? Loss or lack of social consciousness? No prior info as to Brooks’ criminality? Someone ’splain to me please.
Bobby St. Chomsky
I hope you are not talking about Tom and Stevi…
Sorry for the misstatement of the David Brooks’ id above. Thanks for the polite correction. I had just read the Lamont endorsement by the NYTimes on Rawstory and the Times was doubly on my mind.
*ilson—in the stage world, you’d be the Key Grip.
RBG
Can I be the Gaffer?
I always thought the designation in the film world of “Best Boy” sounded like fun …
Thanks for the info on Brooks, but isn’t anyone else going to defend Martha ? She is a Democrat and was prosecuted because she is a Democrat. She doesn’t deserve to be considered in the same catogory with Ken Lay.
Well, Martha may be a Democrat, but she was also a rich person who thought the rules did not apply to her. What does that make her, a Lieberman?
I agree about Martha — wouldn’t that awful Hotel woman have been better? what was her name? (not Hilton!)
ccmask
That’s Nu to me. Thanks. If anyone has an addy for our esteemed counsel Mary, I bet she’d get a kick outta that. Even seeing it prior, good to get a chuckle on opening mail Sun AM or whenever.
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Google News still not showing the NYT endorse.
WaPo reporter in link above is chatting online Mon.
http://discuss.washingtonpost……itics1.htm
Wow! I didn’t know Mary wrote editorials for the New York Times. That is so exactly her take on what’s at stake that if she didn’t write it, the editors have been reading her. It isn’t about the war. It isn’t about choice. (Sorry, folks, but although the emergency contraception issue and Alito cloture vote are enough for us, I think the Times either buys the Naral/PP line or has bigger fish to fry.) It isn’t about energy or pork or too much bonhomie. It isn’t even about kissing Bush. It’s about kissing Cheney and Addington and Yoo. It’s about civil liberties and human rights. And it would have been about that even if the Administration had never forsaken Afghanistan to invade Iraq. So Mary, way to go! Woot!
*ilson -
Helmsley?
The Queen of Mean
Leona Helmsley
Any news from the Concert on the Green?
*ilson- you beat me to it- I was gonna mention “Best Boy”!
http://tms.ecol.net/movies/whobest.htm
Best Boy
There are actually two separate best boy positions — the best boy/electric and the best boy/grip — who are second in command to the gaffer and to the key grip. The best boy/grip is in charge of the rest of the grips and grip equipment. The best boy/electric is in charge of the rest of the electricians and the electrical equipment.
yup — Leona Helmsley
The Queen of Mean (although she has been succeeded by Jean Schmidt of Ohio)
I can live with Best Boy (electric!)
*ilson—you’d make a great Best Boy.
neuro—how are you at schmoozing local electrical inspectors?
I don’t see where the NY Times piece even mentions Joe’s intention to run as an Independent if he loses the primary. The case is made without bringing up that slap-in-the-face to the party and the voters. Pretty sweet.
I checked a proprietary source to see if the NYT Lamont endorsement was up yet, and didn’t see it, but did find this, from the AP…
“Democrat who might have been U.S. vice president faces political abyss
By DAVID ESPO, Associated Press Writer
DATELINE: WEST HARTFORD Connecticut
Anti-war Democrats bailed in droves. Teachers unions left over school choice voichers. Men are drawn to his challenger, and women aren’t all that crazy about the incumbent, either.
Once, Democratic Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut seemed on the brink of the vice presidency, a principled moderate in a party that didn’t always warm to them. Now, hewing to his support for the war in Iraq, he confronts a political abyss, abandoned by all groups but the poorer, older and less educated Democrats in his state.” [more]
“he confronts a political abyss”…I like that.
There’s a movie called “Best Boy”. It’s not about the film biz, tho.
Here is the dream… that if Jojo made his after dark appearance that the Kiss Float was there to greet him and Temptations stopped the show to announce the arrival… of the Kiss Float
“Taxes are for little people.”
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Wow. That reads like an epitaph.
Thanks, Matt.
We are on the brink of major disaster. The Man controls everything.
I’ll pass it along, but you heard it here first (or maybe not): If the Dems don’t win a House this fall, we are done. “We” being the sane people.
“he confronts a political abyss”…I like that.
Now if only someone could give him a little push :)
John o 238
My constant fear is that enough of the election
votings will be FIXED . We may not get House even if the true votes are there.
Oh, and Blank Kludge, if you were thinking about making a trip to the bookstore to buy Foucault, allow me to save you the trouble: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Foucault
I find the post-modern Continental philosophers more work than they’re worth, but I’m irredeemably binary and the word “epistemology” makes me break out in hives. If you have a taste for philosophy, may I suggest John Rawls? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Rawls
Geezz, I should *preview* before I *submit*.
btw, Jeremy Bentham devised the PanOpticon — Foucault just riffed on it …
Would also be interested to know what rabbi would condone or be part of such an excessive display connected to or associated with a serious religious rite of passage
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Rabbis, like most any other clergy, can be bought.
anybody see this?:
Associated Press — http://www.military.com/NewsCo…..79,00.html
The Boston Globe doesn’t update their news site till somewhere in the wee hrs. Still searching for something ‘out there’ re:NYT/Ned endorsement.
They (Globe/pwned by NYT, btw) operate under the umbrella of Boston.com a blend of media. Including message boards. Politics is sadly lacking. However, one intrepid user (AnnieHall-userID) found this question sufficient reason to open a new thread. And I quote;
“I think all married people should be treated as gays who marry are treated. Why should gays get special treatment?”
sigh.
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Wiki; I hadn’t thought of that. What a novel concept. Thanks. I had a friend PhD in Political Theory early ’90’s who piqued my interest. (Just as WWWdot and ‘Mosaic’ was maturing.) Seeing a reference tonight made a spark of recognition.
Toobz Rool!
was the officiating Rabbi at that notorious Bat Mitzvah named Daniel Lapin ? http://www.mediatransparency.o…..toryID=120
Jenny from the Blog
Somehow, that line “he confronts a political abyss” reminded me of a line from Bob Dylan’s “Like a Rolling Stone”:
You said you’d never compromise
With the mystery tramp, but now you realize
He’s not selling any alibis
As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes
And ask him do you want to make a deal?
Then I checked it to be sure, and decided to print the whole thing:
Once upon a time you dressed so fine
You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn’t you?
People’d call, say, “Beware doll, you’re bound to fall”
You thought they were all kiddin’ you
You used to laugh about
Everybody that was hangin’ out
Now you don’t talk so loud
Now you don’t seem so proud
About having to be scrounging for your next meal.
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be without a home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?
You’ve gone to the finest school all right, Miss Lonely
But you know you only used to get juiced in it
And nobody has ever taught you how to live on the street
And now you find out you’re gonna have to get used to it
You said you’d never compromise
With the mystery tramp, but now you realize
He’s not selling any alibis
As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes
And ask him do you want to make a deal?
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?
You never turned around to see the frowns on the jugglers and the clowns
When they all come down and did tricks for you
You never understood that it ain’t no good
You shouldn’t let other people get your kicks for you
You used to ride on the chrome horse with your diplomat
Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat
Ain’t it hard when you discover that
He really wasn’t where it’s at
After he took from you everything he could steal.
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?
Princess on the steeple and all the pretty people
They’re drinkin’, thinkin’ that they got it made
Exchanging all kinds of precious gifts and things
But you’d better lift your diamond ring, you’d better pawn it babe
You used to be so amused
At Napoleon in rags and the language that he used
Go to him now, he calls you, you can’t refuse
When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose
You’re invisible now, you got no secrets to conceal.
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?
I wonder if that is anything like Joenertia will feel on Primary Night…
(I hope I did that right, for some reason Preview doesn’t want to work for me…)
Bentham:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M…..cent_times
from wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Bentham
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Might as well have ol’ Jeremy sitting in the CT/Jr. seat. Hell, even better than Jozo; he wouldn’t talk the warmonger jive.
OT: Kos is reporting that the New York Times has endorsed NED !
WOO HOO !!
http://www.observer.com/200607…..onason.asp
Lieberman’s Allies Blame the Bloggers
[]According to the standard version, Mr. Lieberman is the victim of ferocious “liberal bloggers” from around the country. Dispersed across the United States, these meddling left-wing activists somehow conspired to launch Ned Lamont’s primary challenge, and then somehow mesmerized voters, perhaps via the Internets, to reject the Senator they had chosen three times before. Combining Internet technology with progressive ideology, the miasmic and unwholesome blogosphere now threatens to swallow poor Joe in a cloud of angry, buzzing bytes. []
[] Such hysterical reactions to the Lamont campaign reflect a poor comprehension of what has actually happened in Connecticut. A wealthy businessman and descendant of the Morgan banking family, Mr. Lamont is not a radical of any stripe. He had scarcely glanced at a blog before he decided to enter the Democratic primary, after trying to convince others to run against Mr. Lieberman. And because he is willing to finance this campaign largely with his own money, he didn’t need the fund-raising advantage enjoyed by blog-backed candidates.[]
ummmm…. Medaka … ummmm …. you might checkout comment # 155 …. ummm …. just sayin’
*ilson46201 at 7:13 pm
I think the Leona Helmsley link busted the frame wide right . . .
You’re welcome, Blank Kludge. How did we live B.G. and B.W.? *ilson, I’m not sure Foucault would like his name appearing in the same sentence as the great utilitarian, but he and Bentham are both too dead to care. I do hope Foucault didn’t follow Bentham’s example and have himself stuffed and mounted — though, as a Frenchman, I doubt he’d be allowed to sit in the House of Commons pre- or post-mortem. Jeremy Bentham, eternally present but not voting.
I hope you are not talking about Tom and Stevi…
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Yes, neurophius, I absotively am! In this day and age, when, to any American with any brain, and I presume that includes Petty, Nicks and most musicians, the lines have been drawn to where a millionaire-for-hire’s occupation would be known to a supposedly knowledgable entertainer, and said entertainer would be quizzical about that benefactor, said entertainer, realizing that they were in the employ of a major war profiteer, might perhaps bow out (in THIS day and age). One doesn’t have to be as radicalized as the folks here at FDL in order to connect the dots anymore.
It’s Ted Steven’s “tubes,” they are the problem.
Thanks medaka, lotus caught it a couple of hours ago, but that has been our reaction too, a great milestone for Ned.
thanks *wilson46201 … my laziness … i just surfed the thread for “New York” , thinking any comment would have had those words in it … *sigh*
More outstanding work, Matt.
Did you ever get a laptop? Email me: I might have something for you.
… and Kobe sits quietly munching his pumpkin bread, relentlessly plotting his next coup beyond Connecticut …
http://www.nymag.com/news/politics/18473/
Joe Lieberman’s War
The hawkish senator finds himself in an epic battle—with his own party.
…[]Lamont may not have experience, but his earnest attacks on Lieberman have scored. In one of his few zingers in the televised debate, he effectively countered Lieberman’s charge that as a Greenwich selectman Lamont often voted with Republicans: “It was questions about potholes and stop signs. You’re compromising on questions of principles and things that are the key to the Democratic Party.” Lamont has widened his attacks to portray Lieberman as too willing to compromise with the Republicans on everything, from supporting school vouchers to voting for the Cheney energy bill. His rallying cry: “You’re not losing a senator, you’re gaining a Democrat.”[]…
lotus first posted the info on the Nedorsement at 9:55am PDT — we were electrified !
By the way, John Casper (if you’re still here), I don’t think the Washington Post endorses candidates outside its region, and given the pro-war policy of its editorial board, I don’t think you want it to. There are some things even pumpkin bread can’t fix.
Highway 61 Revisited is my own [heart] Dylan. The whole album just goes out there, and back.
I’ve been toying w/transposing a couple o’ dis’s and dat’s regarding the current cast….GWB/Cheney et al w/Jozo and his Tommorow Tour, too. (’Abe’ could be Abramoff?) Sorta like the way somebody reriffed CSN/Y’s ‘Chicago’ earlier. Needs careful scrutiny and strategery…
http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/highway61.html
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Pool’s open; water’s fine.
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About the Toobz: “Everything is deeply intertwingled.”
Ted NELSON.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intertwingularity
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*ilson -
Being ‘electrified’ helps to stay ‘current’. ;~>
I just found this that bookwoman posted in EPUsville…
” just got back from New Haven. The crowd was 45,000 strong and I literally saw nobody with a Lieberman sticker, but I saw PLENTY of Lamont stickers. The kiss-mobile was driving around the New Haven Green, getting plenty of attention. But what struck me the most were the kids trying to hand out Lieberman fliers and stickers; they were getting few, if any , takers. At one point there was a conga line of Lieberman volunteers trying to get some love, but nobody was buying their wares. This is going to get very interesting!”
GO KISS-MOBILE!
The crowd going to see The Temptations on a summer night aint exactly a Joe Lieberman demographic …
neurophius – thanks for bringing the post out of EPUsville!
Jozo demo notso…mucho.
new thread coming up in two minutes or so … be prepared!
neurophius -
Yes, I think the Dylan song is mighty apropos, although Joe will probably never be lucky enough (in the sense of hitting rock bottom, experiencing some humility, and re-emerging with a kind of wisdom) to drop his mighty shroud of sanctimony and really look at the mistakes he’s made.
Thanks for posting the lyrics. I loved reading them.
Hello from Hillsboro, TX! Another fucking terrible post Matt O. Love the sunshine on it, hate the fact that it seems none of these vultures know what it is to do a good job on anything. I don’t suppose any of the bigshots at DHB Industries has kids wearing their product in the Middle East hmmm?
I don’t know if anyone has linked to tomorrow’s WaPo editorial yet, but Fred Hiatt and his merry band of writers are consistent in their wrongheadedness. Fortunately, I doubt anyone in Connecticut will care.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00680.html
Oh my. I was definitely wrong about the WaPo getting ready to endorse Ned. LOL.
apropos WaPo — oh well …
244: “Rabbis, like most any other clergy, can be bought.”
Well maybe, but it is not quite that simple. Truth is, a rabbi (as well as the cantor) is supposed to provide bar/bat mitzvah services as part of his/her pastoral duties. That being said, it is also traditional to provide the rabbi with an honorarium for performing the service. It follows that the more lavish the event, the larger the honorarium is likely to be.
At some of these events the celebratory aspects way overshadow the religious aspects save for the obligatory reading of the Torah by the child. Beyond a certain point reached early in the proceedings, there is no longer any resemblance to anything like a serious, simple, and sober rite of religious passage as it traditionally was. It has become a potlatch, an opportunity for the family to show how wealthy they are. Many kids who go through this seldom step inside a synagogue afterwards.
I speak as the father of a bar mitzvah child and one who has attended quite a few, though I am not Jewish. Our son’s bar mitzvah I think cost us less than $2,000 and it was quite moving, people said.
entering epu territory but i liked the post matt. a bat-mitzvah is a spiritual coming of age in judaism so to speak, not much spirituality at this one. 10 mil, could you imagine where that money could have been better spent. i teach kids that age and sure they have ipods, cell phones etc. but when push comes to shove, these kids are proudest when they raise money for the underprivileged or canned foods for the food pantry. You can see it in there faces.
One thing that did disturb me was the web site that the pictures came from.(judicial-inc.biz) I opened a few of their links and a lot of prejudice and hatered going on there that gave me the creeps. just saying.
new t’read
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..al-trauma/
Don’t let the DHB story alone. You are amazing.
Wilson 266
You talkin’ bout the Temptations from Motown? From the 60’s?
That’s a whole bunch of us baby boomers who are now approaching, gulp, retirement, if not old age.
And that’s the group that’s supposed to like HoJo the best.
Now, some of us like the Temptaions but are too smart to like Joe, but I can see a bunch in that age group who stubbornly stick with Joe.
I mean, who *doesn’t* like the Temptations?
OFG 271
Do you know there’s Bio-Willie diesel at Hillsborough?
It’s at the Knox stop just south of town. Also available at Carl’s Corner about 4 miles north of there, on the 35-E branch.
Be safe.
I speak as the father of a bar mitzvah child and one who has attended quite a few, though I am not Jewish. Our son’s bar mitzvah I think cost us less than $2,000 and it was quite moving, people said
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I, myself, was Bar Mitzvah’d, for approx the same amount as your son and the event, to myself and all others present was also moving. My parents were Old Left Jews and my entire speech was in Yiddish, citing the struggles of the working class through the years. Haven’t been to a Bar Mitzvah in decades.
“(A few pictures can be found here.)”
You ought to be a bit more careful about what kind of sites you are linking to.
R.
Hey! Don’t knock the drive-in wedding ceremony in Las Vegas.
It’s grossly unfair to equate Martha Stewart’s (unfair) conviction with Ken Lay’s but almost always an applause-getter from an uninformed public unconcerned with the truth of the matter.
I agree with Rainbo and (I hope) others above. The site you pointed to for the Brooks’ Bas Mitzvah photos is rather clearly anti-Semitic.
I am still trying to find the group that got a government contract for military underwear and gun barrels….This is incredible as well…An Illinois community service called C-4 that is funded by Illinois Taxpayers, the clients are all on Social Security Disability at approx. $600 a month which barely covers room in Chicago…..their medical is covered by medicare….These people are uninsurable because of mental illness. Some contractor got a federal government contract for gun barrels and underwear and they hired these disabled people at half of minimum wage. NOw, this is not a bad deal for the contractor to only have to pay 2.50 an hour which social security is deducted from…and the contractor does not have to pay any benefits….the taxpayer is paying the medical, the SSD, the cost of the community center salaries, and rent….The contractor pays half of minimum wage….gets a contract for full amount from the federal government….This is a scam on the taxpayer…and Illinois taxpayers…
In the weeks and days leading up to the invasion of Iraq, the Pentagon seemed to go out of its way to train and supply the ‘journalists’ it would allow to cover its packaged assault on Baghdad. Some of that I did see on C-Span.Watching reporters duck and dodge planted smoke bombs seems a joke now given that we can all see what and IED can do.And I swear, it looked as if those ‘journalists’ were getting better supplies than the soldiers that would pay a price for not being supplied with the armor they needed when every step was a dangerous one.Obviously, the Bush administration and the Pentagon wanted to sell the invasion the way an auto dealer would try to sell a Hummer. Big and bold.
Didn’t read thread…Brooks gave 25K to the National Republican Senatorial Cmte according to Open Secrets.
http://tinyurl.com/orwag
This can be hung around the necks of repiglicans along with the other dubyatrosses they bear.
Scream it far and wide.