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		<title>By: Darleen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/27/will-bill-clinton-stump-for-akaka/#comment-219529</link>
		<dc:creator>Darleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;RE: Poll drop in April… I think that it was about that time that Time magazine ran a hit piece of sorts on Akaka… does Ed’s last name sound familiar? Meet brother Steve, of AOL Time/Warner fame.&lt;br /&gt;
I was at a luncheon with Senator Akaka last Sunday-his age worries me, and he’s not much of an orator, but he’s almost always voted the way that I would like him to vote, and I can tell you, he is one of the most decent people that I have ever met, full of aloha, and with the best interests of the people of Hawaii in mind. Full disclosure, though, his son, Danny Jr. is a close friend of mine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s cousin, not brother, and if Ed had the power to get TIME to do a hatchet piece on anyone, we would not be here having this conversation. Decent and full of Aloha for sure, and son Danny is a great chanter, but why won’t he debate Ed?   It just seems evasive to me; I wonder if he’s well.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Poll drop in April… I think that it was about that time that Time magazine ran a hit piece of sorts on Akaka… does Ed’s last name sound familiar? Meet brother Steve, of AOL Time/Warner fame.<br />
I was at a luncheon with Senator Akaka last Sunday-his age worries me, and he’s not much of an orator, but he’s almost always voted the way that I would like him to vote, and I can tell you, he is one of the most decent people that I have ever met, full of aloha, and with the best interests of the people of Hawaii in mind. Full disclosure, though, his son, Danny Jr. is a close friend of mine.</p>
<p>It’s cousin, not brother, and if Ed had the power to get TIME to do a hatchet piece on anyone, we would not be here having this conversation. Decent and full of Aloha for sure, and son Danny is a great chanter, but why won’t he debate Ed?   It just seems evasive to me; I wonder if he’s well.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/27/will-bill-clinton-stump-for-akaka/#comment-210998</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sigh. Hawaii’s political scene is a frustrating one since, as others have noted, the Democratic machine is very entrenched and very corrupt. I remember as far back as the 80s, there being an attitude of frustration and dissatisfaction with the Democrats that was tempered by the Republicans always looking like as worse option. Hawaii Democrats never seemed to pick up on that signal, however, and things seemed to become even more corrupt and more of an old boys network and people are so desperate to shake that up that they’re willing to consider a Republican candidate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know Akaka’s record so well for myself, but I know the attitude I grew up hearing about Akaka saw him as a seat warmer who was best suited for entertaining constituents who visit the Capitol.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OTOH, what little I can remember about Ed Case (I left my home state 6 years ago) are a vague negative feeling that tells me a seatwarmer is preferable to him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hawaii voters want some real progressives, because there’s a feeling that the corruption and cronysm has put the state on a downwards spiral but they know that Republicans don’t represent them either. Unfortunately, the state Democratic party has refused to give them that option and they’re willing to turn to DINOs and Republicans.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh. Hawaii’s political scene is a frustrating one since, as others have noted, the Democratic machine is very entrenched and very corrupt. I remember as far back as the 80s, there being an attitude of frustration and dissatisfaction with the Democrats that was tempered by the Republicans always looking like as worse option. Hawaii Democrats never seemed to pick up on that signal, however, and things seemed to become even more corrupt and more of an old boys network and people are so desperate to shake that up that they’re willing to consider a Republican candidate.</p>
<p>I don’t know Akaka’s record so well for myself, but I know the attitude I grew up hearing about Akaka saw him as a seat warmer who was best suited for entertaining constituents who visit the Capitol.</p>
<p>OTOH, what little I can remember about Ed Case (I left my home state 6 years ago) are a vague negative feeling that tells me a seatwarmer is preferable to him.</p>
<p>Hawaii voters want some real progressives, because there’s a feeling that the corruption and cronysm has put the state on a downwards spiral but they know that Republicans don’t represent them either. Unfortunately, the state Democratic party has refused to give them that option and they’re willing to turn to DINOs and Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: makahan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/27/will-bill-clinton-stump-for-akaka/#comment-210663</link>
		<dc:creator>makahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Case’s “vote for me, I’m younger” campaign is actually more nuanced than that. His ads make no reference at all to policies, beliefs, or issues. Instead they frame his campaign as a way to “secure a transition in representation”,  although I’m not sure those are the actual words in the ads. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The implication is that since both our current senators are older, we need to send someone younger in to learn at the knee of the most senior senator. Even though it’s unlikely that would actually happen, the combination of imagery and phraseology (is that a word?) are actually pretty persuasive. People are led to visualize Dan Inoye personally tutoring Case in the ins and outs of Washington.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Akaka’s ads, on the other hand, make a central point of his views on the war and occupation of Iraq, and how much it’s costing us in both blood and money - for what?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For an informed and/or rational, intelligent voter, there is no comparison. Akaka wins hands down. But there’s the rub. It is an unfortunate fact that most people are not informed, and most of them are of at most average intelligence. And let’s not get started on “rational”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m a little concerned that Case has a chance. There are more people than you might realize who are susceptible to the fact-free argument Case is using. I’ve personally met people here who previously voted for Akaka and were buying it. His ads are actually pretty persuasive on an emotional level if you don’t know anything about the candidates. And unfortunately a lot of people know little or nothing substantial about the candidates. And react to messages largely on an emotional level. You see where I’m going with this. Case is courting the ignorant and easily led. It would be a mistake to underestimate the effectiveness of his campaign.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m gonna vote for Akaka, so he has at least one vote, but … if you have something to spare, you might consider sending something to the Akaka campaign. If only to help prevent the election of the Joe Lieberman of Hawaii. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Aloha!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Case’s “vote for me, I’m younger” campaign is actually more nuanced than that. His ads make no reference at all to policies, beliefs, or issues. Instead they frame his campaign as a way to “secure a transition in representation”,  although I’m not sure those are the actual words in the ads. </p>
<p>The implication is that since both our current senators are older, we need to send someone younger in to learn at the knee of the most senior senator. Even though it’s unlikely that would actually happen, the combination of imagery and phraseology (is that a word?) are actually pretty persuasive. People are led to visualize Dan Inoye personally tutoring Case in the ins and outs of Washington.</p>
<p>Akaka’s ads, on the other hand, make a central point of his views on the war and occupation of Iraq, and how much it’s costing us in both blood and money &#8211; for what?</p>
<p>For an informed and/or rational, intelligent voter, there is no comparison. Akaka wins hands down. But there’s the rub. It is an unfortunate fact that most people are not informed, and most of them are of at most average intelligence. And let’s not get started on “rational”.</p>
<p>I’m a little concerned that Case has a chance. There are more people than you might realize who are susceptible to the fact-free argument Case is using. I’ve personally met people here who previously voted for Akaka and were buying it. His ads are actually pretty persuasive on an emotional level if you don’t know anything about the candidates. And unfortunately a lot of people know little or nothing substantial about the candidates. And react to messages largely on an emotional level. You see where I’m going with this. Case is courting the ignorant and easily led. It would be a mistake to underestimate the effectiveness of his campaign.</p>
<p>I’m gonna vote for Akaka, so he has at least one vote, but … if you have something to spare, you might consider sending something to the Akaka campaign. If only to help prevent the election of the Joe Lieberman of Hawaii. </p>
<p>Aloha!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/27/will-bill-clinton-stump-for-akaka/#comment-210661</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is one element to the Case challenge to Akaka that is seldom mentioned, especially in the national press, and it is one that Case mentions freely when he talks one-on-one about his candidacy.  The Democratic Party in Hawaii is corrupt in the way that any political party becomes when it is in unchallenged power for too long, and the Dems have virtually run Hawaii since WWII. Akaka is part of that good-old-boy Dem network in Hawaii and Case is running to, supposedly, try to break that up.  It is the reason Lingle, former Mayor of Maui County, won the governorship as a Republican and there is now no real Dem candidate of any worth running for governor now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That said though, Case is a disaster.  As has been pointed out he is Lieberman in a Gentile suit and is far too supportive of corporations and the Iraq debacle, with unclear but scary views on Social Security.  He is most definitely a DLC/Republican-lite Democrat.  I’d love to shake up the Dem establishment in Hawaii (where I live) by voting for new blood but Case ain’t it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Akaka didn’t help himself by making his entire tenure lately about his Native Hawaiian bill and allowing himself to be manipulated like a playtoy by Republicans who promise him the moon about his bill just to get his vote and then renege.  He’s Charley Brown to the Republican’s Lucy and his bill is the football.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sadly, the choice isn’t great and Akaka isn’t the best we can do but I’ll hold my nose and vote for Akaka in the primary because Case frankly scares the shit out of me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one element to the Case challenge to Akaka that is seldom mentioned, especially in the national press, and it is one that Case mentions freely when he talks one-on-one about his candidacy.  The Democratic Party in Hawaii is corrupt in the way that any political party becomes when it is in unchallenged power for too long, and the Dems have virtually run Hawaii since WWII. Akaka is part of that good-old-boy Dem network in Hawaii and Case is running to, supposedly, try to break that up.  It is the reason Lingle, former Mayor of Maui County, won the governorship as a Republican and there is now no real Dem candidate of any worth running for governor now.</p>
<p>That said though, Case is a disaster.  As has been pointed out he is Lieberman in a Gentile suit and is far too supportive of corporations and the Iraq debacle, with unclear but scary views on Social Security.  He is most definitely a DLC/Republican-lite Democrat.  I’d love to shake up the Dem establishment in Hawaii (where I live) by voting for new blood but Case ain’t it.</p>
<p>Akaka didn’t help himself by making his entire tenure lately about his Native Hawaiian bill and allowing himself to be manipulated like a playtoy by Republicans who promise him the moon about his bill just to get his vote and then renege.  He’s Charley Brown to the Republican’s Lucy and his bill is the football.</p>
<p>Sadly, the choice isn’t great and Akaka isn’t the best we can do but I’ll hold my nose and vote for Akaka in the primary because Case frankly scares the shit out of me.</p>
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		<title>By: Linkmeister</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/27/will-bill-clinton-stump-for-akaka/#comment-210582</link>
		<dc:creator>Linkmeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Akaka bill failed by a few votes.  It’s a highly contentious bill out here (I’ve lived in Hawai’i for 28 years now), with the pols for it, most of the non-Hawaiian population unsure about it, and the Hawaiian population split.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Case is an ambitious 50-year-old guy whose whole platform seems to be “Sen. Akaka is too old; he might die in office and then our Republican governor will appoint a fellow Republican to replace him.”  It’s not an idle fear, but much of the local Democratic party is offended.  This is very much a society which reveres its elders, and Case’s approach is seen as disrespectful.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Akaka bill failed by a few votes.  It’s a highly contentious bill out here (I’ve lived in Hawai’i for 28 years now), with the pols for it, most of the non-Hawaiian population unsure about it, and the Hawaiian population split.</p>
<p>Case is an ambitious 50-year-old guy whose whole platform seems to be “Sen. Akaka is too old; he might die in office and then our Republican governor will appoint a fellow Republican to replace him.”  It’s not an idle fear, but much of the local Democratic party is offended.  This is very much a society which reveres its elders, and Case’s approach is seen as disrespectful.</p>
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		<title>By: bcf</title>
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		<dc:creator>bcf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In an effort to determine why Akaka’s popularity is fading so badly, I understand that many may not be happy with his recent proposals that would allow native Hawaiians to govern themselves in the same manner as American Indians.  According to the National Review, which is not my ordinary source for news, Akaka’s problems may be related to an  acknowledgment they claim he made to NPR that the proposed legislation would allow Hawaii’s native polulation to secede.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_16_57/ai_n14935833&quot;&gt;http://www.findarticles.com/p/....._n14935833&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an effort to determine why Akaka’s popularity is fading so badly, I understand that many may not be happy with his recent proposals that would allow native Hawaiians to govern themselves in the same manner as American Indians.  According to the National Review, which is not my ordinary source for news, Akaka’s problems may be related to an  acknowledgment they claim he made to NPR that the proposed legislation would allow Hawaii’s native polulation to secede.<br />
<a href="http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_16_57/ai_n14935833">http://www.findarticles.com/p/&#8230;.._n14935833</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn in MA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/27/will-bill-clinton-stump-for-akaka/#comment-210302</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn in MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Eli!   #111&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Sims</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/27/will-bill-clinton-stump-for-akaka/#comment-209995</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Sims</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Case is no leader; he’s milquetoast. He’s been a Lieberman supporter since he first went to Washington D.C. He is a mini-Lieberman. While there are a few issues that Akaka supports (e.g., drug war, oil drilling in Alaska), he stood up against the invasion of Iraq. I had not heard about Case’s position on GITMO, but that’s just perfect.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clinton probably needs to relax a little, get some sun and play some golf and help his old buddy Akaka.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Case is no leader; he’s milquetoast. He’s been a Lieberman supporter since he first went to Washington D.C. He is a mini-Lieberman. While there are a few issues that Akaka supports (e.g., drug war, oil drilling in Alaska), he stood up against the invasion of Iraq. I had not heard about Case’s position on GITMO, but that’s just perfect.</p>
<p>Clinton probably needs to relax a little, get some sun and play some golf and help his old buddy Akaka.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If the lawn signs are any indication, Akaka is doing fine. I just got back from vacation on Oahu, drove all over the island, and don’t remember seeing many Case signs at all. Akaka, on the other hand, was everywhere.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the lawn signs are any indication, Akaka is doing fine. I just got back from vacation on Oahu, drove all over the island, and don’t remember seeing many Case signs at all. Akaka, on the other hand, was everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: albertchampion</title>
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		<dc:creator>albertchampion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;case is i think the brother of the spook who founded aol.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>case is i think the brother of the spook who founded aol.</p>
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