
There have been a series of articles, documentaries, books and academic panels and discussions on the subject of neocons, the Bush Administration, and the failures that all have been racking up in the foreign policy and crisis management arena. But they haven’t seemed to make a dent in the overall news coverage — each and every time I have read an in-depth piece of analysis that pieces together the disperate facts into a coherent whole, and then opened the newspaper or watched a news clip of shorthanded bits and pieces, the difference in perspective is jarring.
It’s as though the two perspectives do not exist in the same space and time, and yet, I’m getting both with the click of my mouse or my television control. Why is it that they never seem to match up?
Eric Boehlart’s Lapdogs takes a stab at the whys of this, in much more depth than I can here, and Media Matters covers the daily transgressions — where facts and articles don’t match — but the end result is that the snippets of news that most people get every day do not match up factually to the more in-depth reporting that the very same newspeople are uncovering in longer form.
It can be difficult to keep up with all of the information out there, so I thought, in light of the Bolton hearings this morning and the overarching questions that they ought to raise about the direction and philosophy of the Bush Administration, the failing stranglehold of the neocons, and the fact that the rest of us are continuously paying the price for these failures — a listing of some of the better reporting on a whole host of foreign policy and national security reporting recently, and a few links to some great documentaries that you may have missed.
This was all prompted by Dan Froomkin’s White House Briefing yesterday, which was fantastic from start to finish, by the way. Froomkin began with coverage of the Hadley statement that was enormous in terms of implications, but done in such an understated fashion that the coverage was extremely muted:
President Bush and national security adviser Stephen Hadley yesterday for the first time publicly acknowledged the momentous shift in the role for U.S. troops in Iraq, from fighting terrorists to trying to suppress religious violence.
This sea change was described in such understated terms that it was eclipsed by news about the crisis in Lebanon. Bush described a change in tactics; Hadley called it a repositioning.
But it’s a historic admission: That job one for many American troops in Iraq is no longer fighting al-Qaeda terrorists, or even insurgents. Rather, it is trying to quell an incipient — if not already raging — sectarian civil war, with Baghdad as ground zero.
Arguably, that’s been the case for quite a while. But having the White House own up to it is a very big deal.
As things stand now, an overwhelming majority of the American public no longer supports Bush’s handling of the war, which they think was a mistake in the first place. A majority wants American troops to start coming home soon. What unqualified support there is for the war seems to come from people who believe it is central front in the war on terror.
But how will people feel about our troops being sent into the crossfire between rival Muslim sects? That is not the war anyone signed up to fight.
Perhaps the Bush Administration is hoping this will stay under the radar for a while, considering how dire the news is from the rest of the region, but surely this will seep into press coverage and result in some tough questions for the White House, right? Right?
– Let’s begin with Emptywheel’s analysis of the James Bamford Rolling Stone article on the next war being ginned up by the neocon cabal — Iran. Emptywheel does a great job of deconstructing some of the facts and information available via other sources — but there is a segment of Bamford’s article that I want to bring to everyone’s attention:
In the end, the work of Franklin and the other members of Feith’s secret office had the desired effect. Working behind the scenes, the members of the Office of Special Plans succeeded in setting the United States on the path to all-out war with Iran. Indeed, since Bush was re-elected to a second term, he has made no secret of his desire to see Tehran fall. In a victory speech of sorts on Inauguration Day in January 2005, Vice President Dick Cheney warned bluntly that Iran was "right at the top" of the administration’s list of "trouble spots"—and that Israel "might well decide to act first" by attacking Iran. The Israelis, Cheney added in an obvious swipe at moderates in the State Department, would "let the rest of the world worry about cleaning up the diplomatic mess afterward."
Over the past six months, the administration has adopted almost all of the hard-line stance advocated by the war cabal in the Pentagon. In May, Bush’s ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton, appeared before AIPAC’s annual conference and warned that Iran "must be made aware that if it continues down the path of international isolation, there will be tangible and painful consequences." To back up the tough talk, the State Department is spending $66 million to promote political change inside Iran—funding the same kind of dissident groups that helped drive the U.S. to war in Iraq. "We may face no greater challenge from a single country than from Iran," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice declared.
In addition, the State Department recently beefed up its Iran Desk from two people to ten, hired more Farsi speakers and set up eight intelligence units in foreign countries to focus on Iran. The administration’s National Security Strategy—the official policy document that sets out U.S. strategic priorities—now calls Iran the "single country" that most threatens U.S. interests.
The shift in official policy has thrilled former members of the cabal. To them, the war in Lebanon represents the final step in their plan to turn Iran into the next Iraq. Ledeen, writing in the National Review on July 13th, could hardly restrain himself. "Faster, please," he urged the White House, arguing that the war should now be taken over by the U.S. military and expanded across the entire region. "The only way we are going to win this war is to bring down those regimes in Tehran and Damascus, and they are not going to fall as a result of fighting between their terrorist proxies in Gaza and Lebanon on the one hand, and Israel on the other. Only the United States can accomplish it," he concluded. "There is no other way."
We have been hearing the term "proxy war" quite a bit to describe the current situation between Israel and Lebanon. The fact that it has represented a huge news distraction for the mess that is Iraq has been only a side benefit, I fear. Bamford makes a compelling case for a lot of behind-the-scenes machinations that may have led up to the beginnings of this proxy war — and, if accurate, takes us back to the tense days of the cold war, except we’re the puppet masters pulling all the strings.
Not a pleasant thought, is it?
– Digby and Tristero have some perspective on the latest neocon efforts to "blame Condi." Hint: Even crappy, half-assed failed attempts at diplomacy are appalling to neocons. More war. (The fact that every military conflict these rubes have touched is FUBAR…minor detail. Nothing to see here.)
– Tristero also has some good insight into the Dick Cheney unilateral chief executive mindset, through some analysis of the ABA rebuke on signing statements and a peek into David Addington’s brain.
– Which leads me to the next series of links. Frontline has been doing amazing work on the neocons, the Bush Administration, and the policies they have pushed — and the real world results of said policies. If you have missed out on their various documentaries, you really ought to watch them. Mercifully, many are available online. Some of the best:
Inside the Terror Network: A look at the 9/11 hijackers, how they moved throughout Europe and the US, and what we missed before the planes hit. Great investigative journalism in this piece.
Gunning for Saddam: The steps toward war with Iraq, as ginned up by Dick Cheney and his neocon cronies.
Campaign Against Terror: A look at the search for al qaeda, a year after 9/11.
The War Behind Closed Doors:A look at the fear that drives the Bush WH toward war with Iraq.
The Long Road to War: The history of American and Saddam Hussein.
Truth, War and Consequences: Rumsfeld and the Bush Administration face the consequences of poor planning, and the quagmire that is now Iraq.
Beyond Baghdad:What the US is going to face in trying to hold all of Iraq.
Rumsfeld’s War: The quest for military supremacy and the use of might to control every conflict in his path. Rummy’s theory of the world.
A Soldier’s War: The psychological cost of war on soldiers.
The Torture Question: Bush’s war and crossing the line, and the consequences thereof.
The Insurgency: The battles in Iraq — and who we may be fighting.
The Dark Side: Meet Dick Cheney, the most powerful Vice President in history, for whom revenge and power go hand in hand.
And that is just a few of the documentaries available. There are a number of pieces on Israel and the greater Middle East, terrorism, al qaeda, and a lot of other fantastic topics. Click here for more.
So, the next time Kyra Phillips starts asking you whether or not the end times and Armageddon are near, while she’s sitting in the anchor chair on CNN, you’ll know that some actual news alternatives exist.
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FDL!
Second!
Christy! Peanut! TRex!
These people remind me of the Lord of the Flies lads. You’re today’s Piggy, Condi.
The neocons act like it’s a video game, played by the rules of game theory.
By contrast, what I’m reminded of is the movie “War Games”: the world is brought to the brink of total nuclear war, averted at the last moment by young programmers after which the computer concludes, paraphrasing, Interesting game–the only way to win is not play.
Bolton and Condi are quite the pair of bookends. Can you imagine the spying they’re doing on her right now?
All war. All the time. And an economy absolutely dependent upon it. An electorate dazzled and confused by it. A media addicted to it. Politicians glued to it.
Jeebus, an Opus Linkorum.
Last night John Warner was on Hardball and when Tweety asked him if he would agree that there is civil war now in Iraq, Warner said – no, it is not civil war; it is sectarian war.
WTF?
GREAT stuff Christy. Are you sure it’s safe to peek into Addington’s brain though? Any recommended immunizations first (what am I saying – Addington has the market on immunity cornered)
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Stephen (beneficial Greenhouse effect *g*)
I have an EPU’d long quote from Suskind’s book below that goes a bit to your question to me yesterday.
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Also – GO DODD!!!!!
Off to do sunshine work. Channeling Norske – keep the faith and pass the facts.
Gawd! A sectarian war? our troops must be theological mediators now?
This is what happens when you read a really good Froomkin and then sleep on it. *g*
to Senator Warner of Virginia, a civil war is when you fight to maintain chattel slavery …
NIH budget cuts…who needs help with diseases anyway? War spending…priceless. Endless.
and. . . they set it all down on paper in their PNAC manifesto, just like Hitler did in Mein Kampf. These people were on the righ wing fringes of foreign policy thought until we got a president who never had a critical thought, and these wackos moved into his vacant cranial space.
Civil war…sectarian war.
Couldn’t Tweety simply ask, “what’s the difference?”
ecoast -
The key word in both being: war.
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Heard interview on BBC a couple days ago. “The U.S. is no longer an ‘honest broker’ of peace, but rather an ‘effective broker’”, as if that were of course a good and natural thing.
…they’re just numbers, and it’s all just words, and, yes, a game.
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Woodstock II: Jefferson Airplane – forgot the song title, but Grace sings the words, “Doesn’t mean shit to a tree.” Yep. That’s about the size of it.
Christy, does your aol account need cleaning out?
I forgot how to get to it, but the thing is tying up to say: Another Great Graphic from Hardin Studios. (I guess Jefferson Airplane’s ‘White Rabbit’ and the whole Alice aspect of REALITY.
Feingold now on with Bolton. Yessssss.
You know, technically, Warner is correct — it is violence based on religious affiliation and fighting among the sects much more so than a non-religion-based battle over territory or geopolitical/political issues. But since it involves the whole of Iraq, the distinction between sectarian or civil is pretty much irrelevent at this point, isn’t it?
“Warner said – no, it is not civil war; it is sectarian war.”
So, civil war is between those of the same country, sectarian is sect or part of society.
When it comes to our involvement, does it matter?
Pach at 17 — yes, desperately, and I cannot seem to get time to delete old crap because the new keeps pouring in — are you trying to send out a Roots bulletin?
ok – I fibbed. One more quick OT thing.
I saw the Feingold blog ad and can’t help but think it would be wonderful if some FDLer like a MattO or Spazeboy or Maura ended up working that gig and could post reports now and then.
just a fwiw
Mary says:
July 27th, 2006 at 8:31 am
I read your reply – thanks!
Horror grips us as we watch you die
All we can do is echo an anguished cry
And stare as all human feelings die
We are leaving, you don’t need us.
…J. Airplane, Wooden Ships
was it really so long ago?
OT Lamont News – From LamontBlog
I think this is pretty big:
“Michael Schiavo To Endorse Lamont Tomorrow
Michael Schiavo, Terri Schiavo’s ex-husband who currently runs TerriPAC, is set to endorse Ned Lamont tomorrow at a press conference in Connecticut. According to their website, TerriPAC’s mission is “to educate voters on where their elected officials stood when they had a choice between individual freedom and personal privacy and overreaching government action.”
http://lamontblog.blogspot.com/
D’ja hear this on NPR this ay-em? Wanna hear or read it now?
Poll Suggests GOP Control of House Is Tenuous
The latest NPR poll took the pulse of likely voters in the 50 most competitive House districts across the country. In these largely Republican districts, a majority of voters polled said they disapproved of the job President Bush is doing.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5221710.stm
More from the Empire Zone:
Michael Schiavo, the former husband of Terri, is headed to Connecticut to stump for Ned Lamont on Friday, accompanied by doctors and lawyers. Mr. Lamont says his opposition to Senator Joseph I. Lieberman had a lot to do with the senator’s support to allow the federal court to consider keeping her on a feeding tube.
(“There ought to be a huge distance between my hospital room and the federal government,” Mr. Lamont says.)
And Michael Schiavo is backing other candidates this year with his political action committee to counter the politicians he says made a “mockery” of “fundamental freedoms.”
http://empirezone.blogs.nytimes.com/?p=407
OT – video from Faux news of one of the protesters at today’s bolton hearing:
http://images1.americanprogres…..20.240.mov
-via thinkprogress
Pach — I’ve cleared some space, so fire away.
Bet: released hostage does nothing for ‘peace’.
Just as if Saddam had surrendered or somthing alike. I believe the occupation would be exactly as it exists.
Glorfindel, you are on fire!
Christy Hardin Smith says “…technically, Warner is correct — it is violence based on religious affiliation and fighting among the sects much more so than a non-religion-based battle over territory or geopolitical/political issues.”
July 27th, 2006 at 8:37 am
If the Kurds are drawn into this sectarian/civil conflict (as Turkey ponders invading northern Iraq), what description will best portray what will happen there? Pandemonium is one possible answer.
Awesome!
Protester yesterday, again today.
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“There’s something happenin’ here..”
‘FWIW’ – Buffalo Springfield (Stills)
Sonate @ 8:34 — Re couldn’t Tweety just ask Warner what’s the diff between civil war and sectarian war?
Tweety was too busy mind-masturbating to the prospect of the “inimitable” AC/DC on his Skankball tonight.
meta…thanks. The world is on fire. :-(
“America Alone” by Stephan Halper & Jonathon Clarke, “What Liberal Media?” by Eric Alterman, “American Dynasty” by Kevin Phillips, “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” by Thomas Frank were all published before the 2004 election. Apparently no-one in the SCLM read any of them.
Slightly OT from the NYT:
“Polls show the public favors a Democratic takeover, and Democrats hope to make their closing pitches in a series of campaign events focused on issues including college affordability and Medicare prescription drugs.”
Iraq in civil (strike that) sectarian war, the middle east a tinderbox, a president who has (figuratively) declared himself dictator, the destruction of the Bill of Rights, and the Dems want to focus on…college affordability??? They truly are trying to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.
I’ve had Bamford in a tab since about 6 am. I still can’t bear to get beyond the first graph.
Christy, no Roots bulletin, just a heads up on a draft I’ve done.
To the whole arrogant band of Bush’s administration…
“I know thee for a knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggarly , three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a lily-liver’d, action-taking, whoreson, glass-gazing, superserviceable, finical rogue; one-trunk-inheriting slave; one that wouldst be a bawd in way of good service, and art nothing but the composition of a knave, beggar, coward, pandar, and the son and heir of a mongrel bitch; one whom I will beat into clamorous whining. If thou deniest the least syllable of thy addition: an adulterous thief, an hypocrite, a virgin-violater!
Take that, I’ve had enough…
Stolen from “Shakespeare on Baseball compiled by David Goodnough (he was describing the manager yelling at the ump).
I take no credit I just thought it fits the current crime…
Jack
Wow! twolf1 @ 31! thanks for the link… you KNOW that took some courage!
CNN – hamas denies Israeli soldier may be released.
OldCoastie, Blank Kludge
-as i understand it, there were 2 protesters today? Can someone that watched it confirm?
2 protesters today– 2 women– one elderly.
Blank, you’re very smart. I read 2 or 3 paragraphs and then I have to lie down. It’s a brutal piece to digest.
Bush is Pandora on cocaine.
what’s the diff between civil war and sectarian war?
Sectarian wars are much more vicious than civil wars. Humans are at their most brutal when killing and torturing in the name of god.
Wow, women are beginning to stand up to scream “NO MORE BS.” God, that’s encouraging. I’m amazed she was allowed to sit there with that non-approved T-shirt.
From Raw Story:
“A “well-connected former CIA officer” has told Harper’s Magazine Washington bureau chief that the Bush Administration is considering deploying US troops to Lebanon.”
Aren’t two wars enough? This would be very funny if it weren’t so frightening and so sad. Is there any member of this administration who has an IQ higher than Michael Jordan’s number?? Didn’t think so.
The US and what army, that’s what I want to know. Nobody in Europe is going to fight Iran for us. Israel won’t be able to do it on their own. I think the current war against Hezbollah has exposed the Israeli army as not invincible, just like the Iraq Occupation has deconstructed many myths about the superiority of the US military.
I don’t see a draft happening. It’s just not in the character of the Bush orcs (they all avoided it like the plague during Vietnam). They’ll find other ways to press people into service or try and raise mercenary forces. Can anyone say Hessians? I don’t know, maybe the Halliburton prisons being built are for rounding up undocumented workers who then get to choose war or prison. The Roman Empire used fighting in foreign lands as a path to citizenship, why wouldn’t Caesar Bush?
Ultimately, though, I think the neocon death merchants are insane enough to go to war against Iran without any ground forces, believing their high-tech killing machines will get the job done. If they do pursue this madness expect the US troops in Iraq to be obliterated. They can’t hold against the Iraqis, what happens when Iran joins in?
NPR top of the hour news flash —
Senior Israeli cabinet officials nix expanded ground operations in Lebanon. Other officials call them wimps, saying the IDF should bomb Lebanon back to the rubble age.
Finally the un-Bush, un-varnished truth of how our soldiers are feeling about being in Iraq is starting to come out. More shades of Vietnam.
It’s worth a read perhaps. Just takes a couple on mins.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..66_pf.html
Interesting blog post on http://www.antiwar.com/blog
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/20…..h-lebanon/
blinkage mine…
the real Hessians (Germans) are in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban. Metaphorical Hessians like Custer-Battles could be angling for big big contracts in Lebanon ?
Trollpatrol–
On previous thread are Harry at 6 and larry at 59 the same I.P.?
Yes, they will now retreat on the ground and significantly ramp up their bombing. I’m sure this is Cheney’s idea that W passed along between bites of stale bread heaped with butter.
Have people noticed Kucinich’s ceasefire resolution?
OT – This is disturbing, Dobson and his fundie crew have invaded professional sports, per Baseball Digest:
“Third Coast Sports, the Nashville-based organizer of “Faith Nights” and “Faith Days” at minor- and major-league ballparks, has inked a deal with Colorado-based Focus on the Family to sponsor selected upcoming events. The first Focus on the Family-sponsored Faith Day will be at Turner Field on Thursday, July 27 when the Atlanta Braves play the Florida Marlins. This year, Third Coast Sports is planning more than 70 events in 44 cities coast to coast. Focus on the Family will sponsor seven events. The events feature post-game concerts with top Christian recording artists and testimonies from professional baseball players. During the sponsored events, Focus on the Family will distribute gift packages for parents, teens and clergy representing a variety of Focus on the Family’s family outreach ministries.
No place is safe
Is it just me, or does Babs seem a bit scattered?
Christy,
Amen to what Pachacutec said !
Fans of Professor Cole (Angie, are ya still here ?)
Stephen’s comment @ 35 brings up something we have been discussing in our house recently and would appreciate any insight from y’all
the hubster says Cheney is willing to sell out the Kurds to the Turks in exchange for the Turks marching in to Iran w/ US provided Air Support
sounds like Wayne Madsen or Jason Leopold type crap, BUT the only reason I give it any thought is b/c it sounds and smells just like Cheney in it’s monstrosity, it’s murderous myopia, and his on going wet dream of ‘empire’
my limited understanding is there is historical “tension” btw Kurds & Turks – but, but, but, the Turks are working towards unity w/ EU, and the US’s veneer of invincibility has been shattered in Iraq and we are now near-pariahs –
would the Turks risk it now ? the hubster can not answer the question of just what the Turks would use as rationale in answering the global community as to why they’d do it – probably claims about ‘true’ Turkish territories, faking some Iranian slap , etc.
am almost embarassed to write this but can not shake the alarms going off in my gut about Richard Cheney and just how friggin’ maniacal he is
she is speechifying and scattered and making me crazy, kristinejoy.
biden seems to have rubbed off on her.
Harry and Larry have different IPs but the 2nd one had posted the samely worded remark but embellished — which was deleted. That’s why he’s whining — still, good observation — please keep the trollwatch going !
It’s kinda stoopid for males to make sexist cracks particularly in a woman-run blog, isnt it ?
i posted this link over at digby’s. good piece from last year that’s sorta on topic about aipac:
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/…..704fa_fact
OK Kiddo, those men on the ground in Iraq have seen it all. I just cannot imagine how they are coping there, and then upon their return if they are able.
Good morning FDL. I have a question about the Bolton nomination. Since Bolton was a recess apptmt, by having a new confirmation process is he OUT as ambassador if he doesn’t get the votes? Or does he get to continue through Jan. either way? Thanks.
. . . “I just cannot imagine how they are coping there, and then upon their return if they are able.”
not so much
http://rawstory.com/showarticl…..979792.php
Dadhusker @ 60.
It won’t fly at Fenway…
Jack
why bother having faith days/nights at ball parks if the end of days is upon us?
anybody ask Bolton yet why he didn’t make any of the Security Council’s foreign meetings?
U.N. Ambassador Skips All Security Council Foreign Travel
via Think Progess – it would be nice if he’d at least do his job…
OT — MSNBC’s new tactic of news-by-interruption and breathless little colloquys between the announcer and producer which are virtually unintelligible absolutely sucks.
And have I mentioned the MSNBC/CNBC pimping of the “inimitable” AC/DC puts ‘em right down in the sewer of trash/tabloidism with Faux News?
CNN better? not-so-much. But extend CNN International instead of the sanctimonious Kyra and they’ll be worthy of calling themselves a News Network again.
I long ago gave up on CNN Headline News — CNN International is my preferred news channel these days …
anyone else watching chimpy on CNN and thinking WTF is he saying?
Chimpy always sounds so defensive when he speaks – makes it hard to decipher what he’s talking about because I only notice the tone, not the words…
I don’t know if this has been discussed earlier, but Greg Palast gives a different, and compelling, spin on what the fighting in the ME is all about.
http://www.gregpalast.com/bloo…..#more-1466
Memo to posters who have their comments deleted:
Life is not fair; being deleted or trexxed at FDL is not the end of the world. Getting your IP banned is the end of your FDL privileges, bub — but even that is not the end of the world. Hell, Sterling Newberry got troll rated and banned at dKos (which is why I hate the rating system, btw — it leads to Lord of the Flies group think flame wars.)
The appropriate response to being moderated, deleted, or trexxed is to feel chastened and humbled, and resolve to be a more civil poster in the future.
[/memo]
They do not see Lebanon as a proxy war, it’s seen as a useful provocation.
In a proxy war, someone else does the fighting. The actual war that is intended against Iran will not be carried out by proxies, but instead by Americans. Israel completely lacks the ability to wage a long campaign against Iran.
These people are intent on pushing the envelope of insane. Shorter Ledeen: we won’t get anything fixed around here until we invade the entire Middle East. Until today I could not have even conceived the phrase “invade the entire Middle East”. Now, it seems, that’s what these people think should be our policy.
Just because a phrase is grammatically possible doesn’t mean it’s a good idea.
From Shrubs lips, he now has a contraction for the phrase emerging democracies — emergencies.
Sweet!
Barbara Boxer as she questioned John Bolton today:
A very disturbing performance, given her strong support for Joe Lieberman as background. She spent most of her time venting about the PM of Iraq (and never asked Bolton about it). She started off well, by calling Sen. Coleman’s rubberstamp approach to confirming Bolton one that promotes a weak “subservient” Senate. So far, so good.
But she then proceeded to characterize the PM of Iraq as a supplicant for billions of US dollars for his country, as though the United States has no responsibility for what has transpired in and to Iraq and for the horrific mess Iraq now finds itself in. I certainly don’t recall Iraq ASKING US to invade. She doesn’t approve of the PM’s opinions about Hezbollah [with whom he has long had ties and therefore will not condemn as terrorists, according to Dick Durbin, who took the trouble to ask him this in person], nor of his call for a cessation of hositilities between Israel and Lebanon.
In short, in her words and her tone and her ‘attitude’ – she conveyed (with conviction) her impression that the U.S. played the role of a knight in shining armor who rode in to save the day in Iraq, and that their ingrate of a PM now doesn’t grovel appropriately in return and thanks for the work of our brave soldiers. [Nor comply with Bush’s demand that ‘you’re either with us or against us’ in the fight against “terror.” Didn’t realize that Barbara Boxer subscribed to that black and white world view too.]
She objects when Iraqis claim Iraq has been “butchered” by the U.S. rather than “surgically” helped with removal of Saddam Hussein. And she claims she has heard “no one” claim that Israel’s attacks “on Hezbollah” are NOT in the “defense of Israel.” She obviously doesn’t read blogs. And she apparently considers innocent Lebanese civilians, Red Cross ambulances, UN monitors, and civilian infrastructure in Lebanon all “Hezbollah” and such optional, deliberate destruction of same as simply the “defense” of Israel.
Oy vey.
PF – 79
Thanks – I read that several days ago and just couldn’t get my mind around the concept…. heard it over and over again and finally figured the proxy talk was just beyond my abilities…
But, as a “provocation”, it all makes perfect sense…
excuse me! USEFUL provocation is an excellent term…
The really scary part?
The Chimpster and Condi are the only thing standing between Cheney and Rummy and the NeoCon WW-III/IV/V in Syria and Iran.
cbl– mulling it over in my mind– and it is a lot to mull… the Turks will never tolerate an independent Kurdistan with all that oil at their disposal. They are building a dam in Turkey that threatens the Kurds access to water. The PKK has been launching attacks at Turkey and bushco says turn the other cheek. I put nothing past the cabal in power here, if we were to escalate wrt Iran, yep– Turkey gets the green light and KABOOM, EU or no.(just my humble opinion) Here’s a pretty ok article about some of this. But if you go to Prof Cole’s site and scroll to the bottom and insert kurds and turkey in the search engine, you might faint with all the information he has archived.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13990129/site/newsweek/
-ck- 83
My hope is that beyond Chimpy and Condi (because that is a whole lotta Nothin’ At All), there is a large contingent of military and spooks that will keep things under control…
I hope…
Jack Walsh -
Maybe not Fenway, but I’m thinkin’ the Durham Bulls.
Lemme see if I can find it, or not.
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‘Twould truly break my heart. Not to mention Annie Savoy. ;->
True americana should remain inviolate.
angie,
thanks so much for your response and the link – couldn’t find ’search’ function in my earlier forays to Prof. Cole’s site (probably ’cause I’m so bent about all this)
Prof. Foland’s comments above dovetail nicely with what hubster is saying, although hubby throws in possible use of ‘limited nukes’ in this scenario (yeah, I know, even in his quest to out-Sharon, Sharon, Ohlmert isn’t that batshit, but we are talking about Richard Cheney here)
How in the world does Bush sleep at night? If I were responsible for the death of a single human being, even by complete accident, I don’t think I would ever get another restful nights sleep again. Astonishing.
OK kiddo 89 – he lacks a soul…
“my limited understanding is there is historical “tension” btw Kurds & Turks – but, but, but, the Turks are working towards unity w/ EU, and the US’s veneer of invincibility has been shattered in Iraq and we are now near-pariahs -”
From what I understand about enmity between the Turks and the Kurds, that’s putting it mildly. Also, there are minority pockets of Kurds throughout the ME, so it’s an issue for the entire region.
Also, the Kurds are sitting on some of the richest oil reserves in Iraq. At $70/barrel and going north, that factors into it too, but no idea if DeadEye is taking that into consideration.
The problem of Kurdish integration into the region is one of many not-talked-about-issues that prompted all the experts to tell Bush to “stay-out.” It’s not just Israeli vs Arab/Persian or Arab vs Persian or Sunni vs Shiia. In addition there are subgroups of all those groups that I don’t understand at all. Evidently W doesn’t either. JMO HTH
Great post….so much good links. Thanks. I ended up at Concerned Women of America…Babs LaHaye, spouse of The Left Behinds. I asked the group what they wanted to do with all the ’snowflakes?’ That truly worries me. I closed with the comment…if this is what America deems Concerned Women, I must become a man and move to Canada!
meta -
About Bamford – thanks for saying that about me, but, as my dearly departed Dad would put it, “Discretion is the better part of valor.”
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No Faith stuff at Durham Bulls webbie. But, I found out that Jul 18 they had this:
Negro League Museum Commemorative Night
Come out early and visit the Roadway Express Negro League Travelling Museum. Show your VIC Card at the box office and receive two tickets for the price of one courtesy of Harris Teeter.
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Makes me wish I had a ticket to that one.
Well said -ck- at at 9:36.
here’s the solution to Iraq…it came to me in an epiphame
since the administration is SO intent with privatizing the world, give securing Iraq to haliburton with NO funding from the U.S.
let them see if they can turn a profit WITHOUT us subsiduzing THEIR defense costs with the lives of our children and the treasure of our country
I GAURANTEE the oil fileds will flow oil, I GAURANTEE Iraqi’s will be put to work
pow wow @ 81, you nailed it and her dissertation, too. I coulda sworn I was listening to a neocon.
what a disappointment.
How in the world does Bush sleep at night?
He doesn’t — he is among the tanned and rested undead, and stays up at night drinking human blood. The shipments from Iraq have been delayed, which leads to natural fermentation — hence, the reports of Bush falling off the wagon.
Kerry asking questions now of Bolton – Bolton’s getting a tone in his voice…
OT -
Driftglass also has a righteous rant up today: “Chris Matthews is Vewy Qwanky”… http://tinyurl.com/lm4v7
Very clever photoshop pic accompanies the piece, too.
okay, now I’m total tinfoil – just reading Angie’s Newsweek/MSRNC link above, so-called Kurdish attacks and provocations could easily be the handywork of US ops to provoke either side – the only thing keeping me from swallowing that one whole is just how piss-poor US spooks have performed in the region the last 30 years OR it’s just one more deadly example of our failure to keep the various factions on their leashes, eg Shia v. Sunni
btw, turned channel when Boxer started speaking – out of concern she would start the AIPAC shill script – apparently my worries were reality based
pow wow -
wrt B.Boxer:
That is enough for me. It says,’Progressive primary challenge when next we meet.’
Bolton’s starting to lose his temper with Kerry’s questions…
OK kiddo
Funny that. Both members of the first couple seem well rested. Guess karma is a long term position.
shorter Kerry – “you aren’t doing a very good job”
OK Kiddo:
“How does Bush sleep at night?”
If you want the answer to that question, you need to read Justin Frank’s Bush on the Couch. Frank is a pshrink at GWU.
Short version: Barbara Bush f***ed up in raising her oldest child. George H.W. Bush was an absent father. The death of his younger sister was something his parents didn’t cope with well, and they didn’t help him process his own grief and issues resulting from her death. The Shrub likely has some learning disorders. The Shrub has oedipal issues, and wrecks things. The Shrub’s earler coping mechanism was alcohol, he has since substituted Jeeebus for alcohol. (Or perhaps is now supplementing Jeeebus with alcohol.) He believes he is above the law.
When you believe that God’s telling you to do all this s***, I guess you sleep just fine at night. Especially when Laura bakes you a heart-shaped coconut cream pie for your birthday…
Have I mentioned lately how much I hate what these people have done to my country?
BC
cbl, angie & John C —
With the proviso that my research on the Kurdistan-Turkey-Iran nexus ain’t much to brag about . . .
As best I recall, the Kurds’ ancestral territory pretty much describes a circle in the borderlands where Turkey, Iraq, and Iran meet. About half the circle lies inside Turkey, and the larger of the two remaining portions is Iraqi, but there are plenty of Sunni, ergo minority, Kurds in Iran (my sis-in-law’s mother, for one). For the Kurds, apparently, national/sectarian/tribal implications pale in comparison to their longing for ethnic re-unification.
If the neocons wanna stir that pot of bamia, they can expect many an okra pod of serious throw-weight to fly in who-knows-how-many directions.
Hey, Lotus:
You used to teach tech-writing? No wonder I like you so good…
BC
Thanks lotus.
NPR news update — North Korea calls Condi Rice a political imbicile, who can’t think her way out of a Jimmy Choo paper bag.
It’s good to know there are still a few sane governments in the world.
OldCoastie…90
“…he lacks a soul…”
Well… yes. That’s probably as good an answer as any. Yet. It doesn’t really explain it. At least for me. But it’ll have to do.
Trying to answer my own question at 68.
From Wikipedia: “A recess appointment occurs when the President of the United States fills a vacant Federal position during a recess of the United States Senate. The commission or appointment must be approved by the Senate by the end of the next session, or the position becomes vacant again. Recess appointments are authorized by Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution: “The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.”
Reading what I put in bold, it seems to imply that Bolton would stay on the job even if he doesn’t get confirmed. Talk about your lame duck.
-ck-
Jesus Christ on a crutch, what’s the world coming to?
I have to get my news from the BBC World Service and Comedy Central’s The Daily Show, and now The People’s Republic of North Korea has a cogent grasp of reality?
Okay, folks. We can quit now, hell has officially frozen over…
BC
ecoast 9
John Warner on Hardball last night looked like he’d aged 20 years since the last time I saw him deliver his canned reviews of whomever the admnistration approves.
He’s been lookng old and craggy for years, but now he just looks old, in that spare kind of way.
And yes, he called it “sectarian” but he was playing down everything he spoke about, as if “if only we can be polite about all this, it will get better.”
“If the neocons wanna stir that pot of bamia, they can expect many an okra pod of serious throw-weight to fly in who-knows-how-many directions.”
Oh my dear lotus– that is a beaut! You are right about ethnic re-unification, imho. They deserve it, too.
rat bastahd,
Nope. This session of Congress expires in January 2007. If the Senate doesn’t confirm him (as they damned well ought not), then he’s out in January.
’tain’t nearly soon enough, though.
BC
Lotus,
thanks for your response – well appreciated
“If the neocons wanna stir that pot of bamia, they can expect many an okra pod of serious throw-weight to fly in who-knows-how-many directions.”
we are talking about Richard Cheney and his whole Manifest Destiny/Empire jerkfest – he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about ANYTHING standing in his way – including the 135,000 _ US Troops that would be immediately swarmed by al-Sadr and the other kids should anything happen to Tehran
hearing over
John Casper says: “Evidently W doesn’t either.”
July 27th, 2006 at 9:48 am
Do you suppose (with apologies to punaise) that he might benefit from sects education?
Bargain Countertenor at 10:03 am –
Justin Franks analysis is as good an explanation as there is — Bush is an oedipal narcissistic sociopath, who thinks he has a hot line to god.
With that mess of a little man in the big chair, Cheney Rumsfeld itching to nuke somebody, Karl Rove may be the only thing that keeps the Chimpster brain stem from pushing the red button.
Maybe it’s a good thing Fitz hasn’t brought an indictment . . .
P.S. to my 106 — Some months ago, Juan Cole (I’m pretty sure it was) also laid out quite a lot on Israel’s chumming-up with the Iraqi Kurds. Plug those two words into his search-box for some real eye-openers.
“Okay, folks. We can quit now, hell has officially frozen over…”
BC,
youbetcha ! let’s see, this week alone we were fighting Planned Parenthood, NARAL, HRC, and Barbara Boxer – while Pat Friggin’ Buchanan was the ONLY one making any sense about ME
I’m at work and yearn for a live blog of the hearings
hmm, posted a blurb from the antiwar.com blog which included a blurb from BBC news, and it got ‘trexed’.
Was it content or link-code causing the ‘trexing’ ?
BC, I YOU like sum rill big good, too! (But why re tech-writing in pertickuler?)
sp,cpa
LMAO.
OT, Nate C linked to this very fine WaPo article on the prior thread. More TM coverage like this and Boxer won’t be letting Bolton off so easily.
: ‘Waiting to Get Blown Up’
Some Troops in Baghdad Express Frustration With the War and Their Mission
By Joshua Partlow
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, July 27, 2006; Page A01
BAGHDAD, July 26 Army Staff Sgt. Jose Sixtos considered the simple question about morale for more than an hour. But not until his convoy of armored Humvees had finally rumbled back into the Baghdad military base, and the soldiers emptied the ammunition from their machine guns, and passed off the bomb-detecting robot to another patrol, did he turn around in his seat and give his answer…
Steffey said he wished “somebody would explain to us, ‘Hey, this is what we’re working for.’ ” With a stream of expletives, he said he could not care less “if Iraq’s free” or “if they’re a democracy.”"The first time somebody you know dies, the first thing you ask yourself is, ‘Well, what did he die for?’ “…
“At this point, it seems like the war on drugs in America,” added Spec. David Fulcher, 22, a medic from Lynchburg, Va., who sat alongside Steffey. “It’s like this never-ending battle, like, we find one IED, if we do find it before it hits us, so what? You know it’s just like if the cops make a big bust, next week the next higher-up puts more back out there.”….
I mean, if you compare the casualty count from this war to, say, World War II, you know obviously it doesn’t even compare,” Fulcher said. “But World War II, the big picture was clear — you know you’re fighting because somebody was trying to take over the world, basically. This is like, what did we invade here for?”….
He kept talking. “They say we’re here and we’ve given them freedom, but really what is that? You know, what is freedom? You’ve got kids here who can’t go to school. You’ve got people here who don’t have jobs anymore. You’ve got people here who don’t have power,” he said. “You know, so yeah, they’ve got freedom now, but when they didn’t have freedom, everybody had a job….”
Reading what I put in bold, it seems to imply that Bolton would stay on the job even if he doesn’t get confirmed. Talk about your lame duck.
yes, he can be reappointed but without pay
Is ck’s comment about quoting North Korea on Condi serious, or just in jest?
Ghostman
BC @ 115: Yes, I understand that part of it. My question is what happens to him NOW (between now and January) if he is NOT confirmed?
It looks like he’d stay on the job anyways, though I’m not sure about that. It certainly wouldn’t do us, as a country, any good to have a rejected ambassador serving us whilst the beginnings of WWIII amp us. Then again, that seems to be exactly what people of Bolton’s ilk are gunning for.
the failing stranglehold of the neocons
I could read that over and over.
Bargain Countertenor…105
“Bush on the Couch” … I’ll take a look at it. Thanks. Of course, many have suffered from some of the same negative conditions (and far worse) that Bush has. And have overcome those bad situations, and have not morphed into a defective human being. Bush is for me essentially, a government, sanctioned, vicarious serial killer.
CNN: In Harris poll, Americans say firefighters, doctors, and nurses have the most prestigious jobs. Congratz, all y’all!
Jesus Christ on a crutch, what’s the world coming to?
Well, this is a through-the-looking-glass thread — which lets us see the world in all of it’s insane glory.
Speaking of Jesus Christ on a crutch, the funniest scene ever is in Greaser’s Palace — Jesus Christ wears a zoot suit and panama hat, and goes around laying on hands while saying: “If you feel, you heal!”
JC does this with a cripple, who drops his crutches, takes one step and falls to the ground — and then says: “I can crawl again! I can crawl again!”
I don’t think we are there yet . . .
Lotus,
I apparently have a thing about tech-writers. Mrs BC is also a tech writer, and I dated yet another tech writer for a while in grad school.
BC.
Ghostman –
Everything except the Jimmy Choo paper bag — that was a color commentary embellishment.
NPR said North Korea called Condi a “political imbicile.”
“Former Wonkette editor Ana Marie Cox was today named Washington Editor for Time.com, effective July 31, 2006.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..25912.html
Make up your own punchline.
me to me says:
July 27th, 2006 at 9:51 am
I’ve been a certified public accountant for more than enough years to see from perusing Halliburton’s recent balance sheets that its financial resources are far too small to permit it to operate successfully in Iraq without any external assistance. It isn’t the financial behemoth that it is made out to be; its stockholders’ equity, amounting to approximately five billion dollars, while nothing to be sneezed at, will carry it only so far. I suspect that the cost of repairing and maintaining (to say nothing of the cost of securing) Iraq’s oil pipelines and related infrastructure far exceed Halliburton’s financial resources.
Ok & BC –
The death of Bush’s sister from leukemia was the seminal event of his childhood. After the funeral, his parents went golfing. His mother withdrew emotionally, and her hair turned white at age 27.
ck, 134: ok, got it. Even for NK, that’s pretty strong language, calling her an imbecile. And….one of the FEW times I’ll ever agree with Dear Leader! chuckle
Ghostman
OK Kiddo,
You’re welcome for the reference. Reading Frank’s book made feel sorry for the Shrub, but even sorrier for us.
And yes, many people have coped with those issues without becoming psychopathic megalomanic narcissists (whooo, gonna have to pay Funk & Wagnall’s xtra today). The Shrub just got dealt a really shitty hand in the poker game of life. But somewhere along the way, the game was changed from straight draw to low-ball. Go figure… I can’t even get within a standard deviation of the answer.
BC
All the neocons said they needed was a spark, like Pearl Harbor, and they got it: 9/11/01. Does anyone know if there’s a Chapter Two somewhere to the PNAC Manifesto, such as what the neocons plan after the second spark?
Because I predict the second spark is headed our way. And the US response will be “proportionate,” right?
Sophist, hit F5, we all see the link at 9:07.
omg, Greaser’s Palace ? cbl hearts ck
Oh, and here be Blighty’s news today (lest you run outta reads *g*):
http://www.timesonline.co.uk
http://www.guardian.co.uk [in particular, TG Ash & G Palast]
http://www.independent.co.uk
http://www.telegraph.co.uk
omg Hugh 135, ding ding ding, you win the Looking Glass thread comment prize! However did you mockup such real HuffPost grafix — let alone the parody story? *g*
Does this mean that Wonkette is now the boss of Andrew Sullivan and Richard Wolffe, among other Washington-based reporters and commentators at time.com?
omg. this is the ass-fucking of the apocalypse.
Friends, folks, FDLers, I just one question for now, ok?
Who’s got refills on the Soma Rx?
Please notify your mod.
‘Cause we sure could use a gram, kilo or more today.
Thank you
BK
I don’t even wanna THINK about those editorial meetings, Hugh and Teddy. (Props and ditto TSF, Hugh!)
Said years ago now that this mess in Iraq was merely a proxy war between Israel and Iran, and that American troops were used to this end. So was our gullible, highly manipulable POTUS – tell him his manhood is threatened by comparison to his dad’s performance and he’d rip the heads off baby bunnies to prove he was a real man.
But right there, under that moron’s nose, Israel is spying on us with folks placed in OSP (remember Franklin? what of Ret. Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski’s comments about foreign nationals roaming the halls familiarly during the run-up to Iraq?) — and DoD was being led by the nose hairs at the same time by Chalabi and at least one of his cohorts, while passing information to Iran. They were at it within the very ranks of our government, duking out a propaganda war that resulted in the occupation of Iraq.
And now Lebanon…with Syria to follow?
How much of whatever is happening with Lieberman right now is because of this situation? The escalation of military action may not have been solely based on Hezbollah’s recent attack (which in turn had been precipitated by Israel’s attack on Palestinian civilians); the escalation is in sync with the perceived threat to AIPAC (and Likudnik) access among Democratic members.
sonate 9:02 pm — Sh*t. They’ll have to start pulling down IRR folks if they deploy to Lebanon – unless the idea here is to begin a withdrawal from Iraq under the guise of a redeployment into Lebanon.
Means I need to worry afresh about my family member, now inside the last 12 months of his IRR.
-ck-
Yeah, Frank makes it very clear that Robin’s death can be tied to many (most?) of the Shrub’s empathy problems.
BC
pow wow, thanks for the summary about Boxer. I turned the hearing off because it’s making me nuts.
I know I’ve been on an extensive jag about Boxer in previous threads, but let me just say that this pretty much is the last bit of icing on the cake. With regard to Lieberman, all the issues and items and who said what thing on what issue – when all is said and done, she is putting all her influence and power and personal will – at the expense of her consituents who have supported her for years – to getting that fucker RE-ELECTED. Yes, getting him back in his seat so he can continue cheerleading the death and destruction that is George W. Bush. Game over.
this is the ass-fucking of the apocalypse.
Bend over, Baby — here comes Slim Pickens, riding a 20 megaton missile!!!
Kludge, weren’t you the one what found us that roach the other day? Go back in there and root around fer sommore, ‘kay? STAT.
TeddySanFran says: “Does anyone know if there’s a Chapter Two somewhere to the PNAC Manifesto…?”
July 27th, 2006 at 10:31 am
Didn’t ThinkProgress (and others) report several weeks ago that PNAC (and/or its parent organization) closed its office? If that’s the case, what organization took its place?
OK Kiddo
“Bush is for me essentially, a government sanctioned, vicarious serial killer.”
That sums him up cogently. And I think Justin Frank would agree with the synopsis.
BC
“such as what the neocons plan after the second spark?”
“Israel is fighting to stop, and defeat, Hezbollah. Bush, Blair, and the Post editors understand that the right policy is to stand behind Israel, and to support that nation in defeating terror–for its own sake, and on behalf of liberal civilization. They understand that we are at war with an axis of jihadist-terrorist organizations and the states that sponsor them. They understand that we need to win the war. With Bush’s leadership, we have a good chance to do so.”
–William Kristol
Willi K referred to George Will as a “weak horse” in the same column b/c Georgie had the termerity to call for restraint on all sides
any questions ?
Bolton’s job was/is to throw a wrench in the gears – not to attend any stinkin’ meetings. He’s a bull in a china shop. BTW, that caricature of him in the last thread was way to flattering, IMHO.
I think Turkey will forgo EU membership in favor of territorial expansion into the oil bogs of Northern Iraq. They’re just biding their time.
Boxer’s speech was poor – Why must the dems accept and regurgitate as fact so much of the neocon talking points/agenda. Point out the lies and let the chips fall.
The Iraqi PM is not quite the trained seal that the neocons had hoped for. But you go with the seal you got – not the one you wish you had.
wake ‘n’ bake in PDT!
lotus, BK: here ya go.
– apologies to former prosecutor ReddHedd –
Stephen P, they definitely did close-up shop about 2 weeks ago. Might do a search at WaPo, which is where I’m pretty sure I saw that.
lotus,
‘Ere.
BC –
It was not Robin’s death per se, but the emotional withdrawl of Bar & Poppy.
Although, the idea of an “un-emotionally withdrawn” BarMommy could be pretty scary to a young ‘un as well….
You know BarMommy came equipped with a martini glass in hand, and that Mom generation wasn’t taught the no-drinky-when-gestating roolz.
Who’s bogarting now?
Pssffffffhhhht
‘Anks, Teddy, Busted. Next?
A few misc. comments:
1. Boxer: Hmmm. I read the comment above on her statements at the hearing. Curious. Could she be drifting to the Center? I don’t know…time will tell.
2. Kurds/Turkey: those 2 have been spatting long before any of us were born. Today, there exists a large number of Kurds (Turkish kurds), born and living in far SE Turkey. This group sometimes mouths off for independence from Turkey, which sends Turkey into convulsions. Sparks fly, etc etc
3. On Bush: some posit that he’s dyslexic.
4. TSF asks about a second spark. I’ve been writing for some time that I worry about a modern-day Tonkin incident to happen, giving the neocons the ground cover to go to war. Of late, I worried if Condi flew to Tel Aviv, Hezbollah would rocket the city. (she didn’t, and they didn’t). I also worried about the US evac of folks from Beirut…Hezbollah turning its rockets around and firing on the cruise ship. They didn’t. You know what? I think the WH is SPOILING for an excuse to kick it up over there….and Hezbollah is playing things very, very, smart.
Ghostman
Your mail is still failing, Christy.
I have a draft in the bank for anytime you or Jane want to run it. That’s all I wanted to tell you.
rat bastahd — he’d stay until January, though the administration could at any point ask him to step down and try to get someone else confirmed. But if he isn’t confirmed, I suspect that Bush will go to the Plan B that was circulating a few weeks go — recess reappointing him. This would be an incredible insult to the Senate, but based on past experience, we wouldn’t hear a peep out of the GOP rubberstamp Senate.
(Though I’m not sure what they could do except complain or cut his salary from the appropriations bill. Having someone like King George, who just doesn’t give a damn as long as he wins, shows us all too clearly how much of our system of government is based on the assumption that the players act in good faith.)
Hugh 10:27 am — O.M.F.G.
“Ana Marie is a sharp and witty observer of the Washington scene and has the ability to spot political angles in surprising places“
I can’t even write out what I’m thinking, there’s just an enormous jumble of adult material that comes to mind after that bit…
Cripes. The American media is truly extinct, with this being its death knell
Who knew being a notorious skank and sleaze-muffin would be the competitive criteria for Washington editor at TIME.com?
“With that mess of a little man in the big chair, Cheney Rumsfeld itching to nuke somebody, Karl Rove may be the only thing that keeps the Chimpster brain stem from pushing the red button.”
A thought: imagine how much Cheney despises chimp.
Well, PNAC doesn’t really need its little startup former office, does it, now that it’s taken over the US government? Just saying.
Who would go to work at PNAC when the Main Chance in ChimpyTown might be with Special Projects in the Pentagon? (imagine how many Feiths there must be now!!)
Hey lotus… over ‘ear!
lotus -
Roches? Roches you say? (Actually, you’re close enug fer gov’t woik…;-> )
Along with our Columbian/Lebanese princess Shakira – ‘Fijacion Oral’
Haunting…spiritual like Sinead O’Connor style from back on ‘Lion/Cobra’.
And the poingancy actually is soothing. Strong.
Christy–
What about having a second email account that only people like Jane, Pach, etc will send stuff on?
I might have known — ‘ere, Bong!
Ghostman, what center?
E-mail…
GRRRRR.
Mines been messed up for two days.
nice guy at tech support.
day 3 commenced already. Grrr.
Boy, hit Kludgie hard, dinnit.
Whatever the explanation, Bush can sleep at night because he fundamentally doesn’t give a rat’s ass about anyone other than himself. You know how all presidents age tremendously while in office, apparently because of the burdens and responsibility? (See FDR, Carter, and Clinton for prime examples, but even Reagan showed some aging that hair color couldn’t hide.)
George W. Bush was President through 9/11 and a bloody war and occupation in Iraq, but he didn’t show any signs of aging until his poll numbers dropped.
It is not too strong of a term to call the Bush Administration “nut case war mongers”. It is infuriating that corporate media refuses to investigate the march to WWIII and continues portray them as rational Strife Derails a Bush Comeback.
Both Israel and the USA cannot continue to fight the Holy War on the cheap. The only conclusion is that they are awaiting for a counter attack to initiate the draft and a nuclear exchange.
TeddySanFran -
Much obliged. The former prosecutor is kindly away just now; reserching things, combing for stunning graphic work to illustrate threads yet born.
All I’m gonna say is, go on over to Raw Story and check out the menu …
SP CPA 10:40am — Yeah, PNAC closed up shop, hung a banner over the door in the wake of its departure, “Mission Accomplished”.
Probably no need for a new outfit since its parent organization, NCP, is still in existence.
Christy & Jane — given Boxer’s continued and sustained support for Lieberman, along with the weirdness of Big Dog’s support as proxy for Hillary, I think we can now safely say that Boxer AND Clinton(s) are far less concerned about the rights of women in this country than they are about Israel’s Likudnik faction, whether here in the U.S. or in Israel. We could also see a strong correlation between the DLC and AIPAC-Likudniks.
These folks may have bet the farm on this, too, since by overwhelming numbers there are more female voters that support choice than there are AIPAC-Likudniks in this country. And women overwhelmingly are against the killing of civilians, especially children, by state agents.
Bad, bad move for Boxer; I’ve resisted the idea, but now I think I would firmly put her in the column with Lieberman as needing removal by a candidate that represents American interests, including those of women.
170, meta….well, I meant the “traditional” center of the political spectrum. Are you implying she’s gone further to the right? Personally, I just don’t know what to make of Boxer…lots of conflicting signals coming from her as I view it.
Ghostman
Hey Now! This ain’t no liteweight here.
Penalty bongs for a ‘wimpout’ on Cosmic Wimpout.
TeddySanFran says: “Well, PNAC doesn’t really need its little startup former office, does it, now that it’s taken over the US government? Just saying.”
July 27th, 2006 at 10:48 am
I mentioned this some threads ago. Looking at a recent form 990 filed by PNAC’s parent nonprofit organization, I noticed that its annual revenues amounted to only about eight hundred thousand dollars. I also looked at AIPAC’s form 990 and noticed that its annual revenues amounted to about forty million dollars.
Does anyone here have a list of nonprofit organizations (or very influential individuals) not already mentioned in my comments that are affiliated with either PNAC or AIPAC?
Spot-on, meta 168! Senator Boxer’s views — except for her recently expressed support of RGJoe — are directly aligned with 60% or more of the American people, shown in poll after poll after poll. So what benefits her to move to the right?
Nothing I can see. Last night when we were speculating about Senator Boxer: imagine how unwise it would be to distance herself from progressive values just as the great wave of People-Powered Politics is about to sweep the nation (PNAC spark number Two notwithstanding).
It is her previous political calculus expertise that leads me to an inescapable conclusion: she hopes to exploit her friendship with RGJoe on August Ninth to move the progressive cause, personified by Ned Lamont’s primary victory, forward on behalf of Connecticut’s Democratic primary voters.
Please please, Senator Boxer, make it so!
new thread
OK Kiddo 130
I wrote a long answer to this, and I managed to delete it. :(
dude… keep it going….
Jack at 43–thanks for the words we need to fling at those worsted-stocking knaves. This is from King Lear, who has like the democrats, abdicated his responsibilities, wants to be passive and old, or like some politicians looking for endorsements, fallen prey to flattery. Kent, who says these words, loyal to Lear but disguised as a beggar, lets this go on Oswald, the eldest daughter Goneril’s faithful servant. think Rove and Condi.
Does anyone else get the impression that in addition to their innumerable other failings, the neocons never even think about what anyone else might do (the people they talk about fighting, for example.) It’s like they think they’re brilliant chess players because they sit in their bedrooms”think” tanks and decide both sides’ moves, never noticing that they’re just playing the obvious moves for their opponent.
I read an article recently (I thought on The Next Hurrah, but I can’t find it now) about how if the neocons succeed in getting their war with Iran (either directly or by proxy), the Iranians can and will disrupt our supply lines from Kuwait, and our situation in Iraq will bear a close resemblance to Napoleon’s in Moscow.
Since I actually do care about our troops, and not just as political props, this really frightens me and pisses me off.
Mary,
If you are around,
I did NOT see the JP Evens comment with the link to the articles about USAO’s funding problems.
If you can give me a hint about which thread to look on, I would very much like to read it.
It’s interesting because the SAC (supervising agent in charge) in a large fed IG’s office was recently forced to shut a satillite office that had a huge multi million dollar fraud case. The case lives on, but it will be much more combersome to try to deal with witnesses that are 2 hours away, not to mention agents from that office that now have a miserable commute to the main office.
Also the Homeland Security IG (who recently left) complained several times, during and after Katrina that he was being denied he funding necessary to prevent waste fraud and abuse and judging from the reports of ripoffs coming to light the past few weeks, I would say he was spot on.
This is an interesting trend if it is nationawide. I have seen individual USAOs get “punished” with funding cuts when DC thatought they were doing their jobs too well, but that just meant the USAO of a lackey got extra funding–the overall threshhold to the program didn’t suffer.
Yes, I would be very interested in reading that article.
Thanks Ga @185
The Bard reigns…
Bush:
“What a piece of work”
Hamlet, II.ii
lhp, I think this is it.
Attorney’s Offices’ Staffing Is Decried
We are in a battle for the Constitution of the United States. We have a man who would be king. If the PATRIOT enables that, the entire act needs to be repealed. If the AUMF enables George Bush to act in a way that undermines the Constitution, then it must be canceled and he must be impeached. This is not wild speculation. The Congress has the power to do both. Nothing that endangers the Republic and its foundation of laws has any up side. If the Democrats won’t act, then each and every one of them needs to be replaced! As it has been pointed out elsewhere in this forum, the seats in congress do not belong to the people who hold them. It is high time they did something or got out! I plan to go work for Rowley in November. If need be, I will also go work for Lamont. Any of us who are fortunate enough to be able to do something like that had better think about it. As Franklin is supposed to have said …..”a Republic, madam, if we can keep it!” It is time to fight for the Republic, because we are in grave danger of losing it!
I recommend the Frontline documentary on Cheney, prince of darkness, but with a handfull of Prozac or something, because it’s really depressing. As Leahy said yesterday, its like Alice in Wonderland. It seems Cheney was worked up about limitations put on presidential power after his mentor Richard Nixon *boo hoo* resigned. & so now they want to convince us that a dictator is a president or v.v.
lhp – that’s the link (JC is VERY good – that would have taken me forever).
Jack:
“Oh, I could be bounded in a nutshell and count myself king of infinite space, were it not that i have bad dreams.”
also Hamlet II.ii.
also where we are now.
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But per Frank, it wasn’t just Mommy and Poppy’s emotional absence. They would have been emotionally absent in almost any event. Robin’s death (and their inverse-Santorum handling of her illness and death) was more than just a catalyst.
Quoting Frank (Bush on the Couch pp14-15
BC
Great Pic Christy!
Wow I wish I had more time for the LFA(library for all) :)
Peace ;)
Re the Bamford RS article, did anyone else notice this nugget buried awkwardly at the end of a graf at the bottom of page 4?
Franklin and Gilon would normally meet amid the weight machines and punching bags at the Pentagon Officers Athletic Club, where Franklin passed along secret information regarding Iran’s activities in Iraq, its missile-testing program and even, apparently, New York Times reporter Judith Miller.
Um … is anyone but me *really* curious as to precisely what sort of “secret information” a Pentagon employee would provide to an Israeli agent about *Judy Miller*?