peepz

fitz!

Jane!

Boxers all the way.

Jane- what’s your latest take on the mood on the ground in CT re: the primary? More name recognition for Lamont? Are the voters “getting it” as far as Lieberman’s record?

Hmm. Short Ride Joey won’t talk to the New York Times. Deadeye Dick Cheney kicked the New York Times reporter off of Air Force 2. They seem to share a common viewpoint with regard to the press. But of course, that’s not all they have in common.

Boxers or briefs? I dunno – the Boxers were just up there campaigning for Joe, so maybe he’d wanna go with the briefs.

I’m very sorry to hear about the CT media. Here’s a terrific story on Iraq from the WaPo, maybe they’ll pick it up?
‘Waiting to Get Blown Up’

Roots!

No more Boxers for me, thanks.

WATBs don’t wear boxers or briefs.

They wear diapers.

and the Middle East burns while Nero-Con plays the piano.

Why front on it? Boxer could use a better briefing before she jumps on Joe’s wasted bandwagon again.

‘Mmmm…Salty’

;>)

The SCLM presents it thusly:

….Lieberman’s opponent “Millionaire Ned Lamont”.

I don’t know, but I’d bet that RGJoe is even richer than Lamont. But you’d never hear it from the Liberal Media.

I didn’t know this about Joey and the Dept. of Homeland Security, as if there wasn’t enough reasons why. And as side note, I just can’t comprehend all this effort and money for such a weasly, snide, and pathetic excuse of a man.

Here’s today’s mail call here in CT. Very nice mailer from Ned about standing up for the working person.

Another Ned piece
“Joe Lieberman flip-flopped on Samuel Alito’s nomination to the Supreme Court, enabling George Bush and the far right to take over for years to come. Now, we can already see the damage…
In just the first few months, the Supreme Court… ruled the first amendment does not protect governmnet employee internal whistleblowers
…limited the scope of the Clean Water Act

And we all know what could happen next year…the Supreme Court has agreed to consider two cases on reproductive rights whose outcome threatens a woman’s right to choose.

“This [Lieberman’s vote against filibuster] is a slap in the face to every woman of this state, no matter her political beliefs, economic status or race” Rosemary Dempsey, Pres CT NOW.”

In the very same mailbox came this from Lieberman:

“US Senator Joe Lieberman Fighting for the Values we Share

Protecting the Right to Choose and Ensuring Access to Emergency Contraception
Joe Lieberman has always been a steadfast defender fighting to protect every woman’s most basic freedeom — the right to choose. He’s stood tough against the Bush Administration’s attempts to curtail this right, and opposed the nomination of Samual Alito to the Supreme Court. Joe has also supported a woman’ access to emergency contraception.

Improving Women’s Health Care
Joe has consistently fought for fair family and medical leave and for expanded access to affordable care. He’s worked to increase funding for breast cancer research. And Joe has fought to ensure health care plans provide fair and equitable coverage for all contraceptive services.

Fighting for Pay Equity, Combating Violence Against Women
Throughout his career, Joe’s always fought for pay equity and has worked to eliminate barriers to women’s advancement in the workplace. Joe is proud that both his Chief of Staff and Connecticut State Director are accomplished women leaders. And Joe’s aggressively fought for strict child support enforcement measures and supported efforts to combat violence against women.

The Only Candidate For Senate Endorsed By The Connecticut State Democratic Party

Endorsed by NARAL Pro-Choice America
Endorsed by Planned Parenthood PAC”

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

I doubt very much that Lieberman is wealthier than Lamont. But Joe’s personal wealth is irrelevant in this race, because Joe gets all the money he wants from special interests.

Lieberman won’t talk to the press, yet the press covers for him and attack his opponent for him. And Democrats stump for him, even though he made it clear that he would abandon the Party at the drop of a hat. They don’t care what the people want. What kind of democracy are we still clinging to?

Have there been any sightings of The Kiss Float lately?

de neuro 17,

Mebbe not at this point, but just wait til he cashes in his chips.

(Popping in as usual)

From previous thread:

Anyone find is painfully ironic that Joe L. now values Big Dog’s attention when in 2000 he and the entire Gore campaign ran hard and fast as they could in the opposite direction from Big Dog?

What happened in 6 years? Is he banking on people forgetting Big Dog’s moral transgressions?

Or, perhaps those personal failings didn’t mean shit then so they don’t mean shit now?

I can’t write a sufficiently scathing accusation that would describe that level of hypocrisy so I’ll just stop.

M at 5:
I work with 12 home care nurses and a number of clerical support folks. No one is even aware there is a primary. Now, I work for nuns, so I need to keep a low profile on the choice front out of respect for them, and I would guess that many of these nurses share those views and are not registered Ds, but still — the TV commercial saturation is not penetrating their already busy, busy lives.

Rarely leads the news here — in the paper from time to time. Ned doing much more with radio commercials.

It’s an interesting time — my hunch is that the same people who are oblivious to the primary are also not particularly keeping up on the situation in the Middle East or Bush’s call for more troops in Baghdad. They are just too swamped managing their daily lives.

On the other hand, in summertime, folks connected to schools are off and have more time to read and think and digest. That’s the upside to the August primary — not as much static that will happen once back-to-school occurs.

The “on the ground” sentiment I have been able to discern is that the people who are pro Ned and anti-Lieberman are so much more passionate and will make sure that they and their friends vote. I have seen absolutely NO passion or enthusiasm for Joe. And, I think that will be the story of this election on 8/8. We care, they don’t. Ned wins.

I’ll do the digging if needed to provide the links, but am I the only one who remembered recoiling in disgust when Lieberman busied himself playing devils advocate during the Abu Ghraib, the 9/11, and the Condi Rice confirmation hearings?

As I recall, he was trying to outwing even the most rabid neo-cons with over-the-top descriptions of how grateful we should be for people like Condi, how unpatriotic it was to question anything around 9/11, and channeling Limbaugh on Abu Ghraib being nothin’ special.

you are not alone, thingwarbler.

Given how little time is left, I wonder even if Froomkin did a piece on the CT Media’s failure to press Joe, if it would even matter?
I just mention Froomkin, because I don’t know of anyone else at the NYT’s or the WaPo who would even address it with the vigor it requires.

Hilde says:

“I can’t write a sufficiently scathing accusation that would describe that level of hypocrisy”

Here’s one: It’s all about Joe. He will do whatever he sees as being in his best interest, period.

1998: verbally attack Bill Clinton on the Senate floor. Makes him look good with the “morality” crowd.

2000: runs away from Bill Clinton in his vp race. Thinks it will work to his advantage (even though it didn’t).

2006: July. Drags the “immoral” Big Dog into his Senate race. Kisses Bill’s ass. Thinks it will help him win re-election.

2006: August. Declares independent candidacy after losing Democratic primary to Ned Lamont (treasonously collected signatures while still seeking the Democratic nomination). Has a rude awakening when he calls Big Dog to come campaign for him again. No mo, Joe.

Does anyone have any information about internal polls from the Lamont campaign since the Big Dog’s campaign pit stop for Joenertia?

Anyone with access to the campaign know how they plan to respond to the reported TV blitz with the Big Dog’s mug endorsing Joenertia?

I am interested in in the down and dirty campaign details. GOTV, TV ads, polls, etc.

OT and maybe already mentioned (been too busy working today to read much), but this was just sent to me:

ANA MARIE COX NAMED WASHINGTON EDITOR, TIME.COM

neurophius, thanks for filling in my blanks..

Shorter Joe to constituents: You’re not the boss of me!

Also, Glenn Greenwald is a must-read today.

Oh, I forgot to mention, votes with the Republicans to kill the filibuster of the radically antichoice ScAlito’s nomination to the Supreme Court, then votes “against” the nomination when it doesn’t matter. Then touts his record as “pro-choice” and cites endorsement of his candidacy by national NARAL and PP groups. Fails to mention that the local chapters–the ones who really know him well–are opposing his candidacy. Brings in Barbara Boxer to damage her credibility by talking about how “pro-choice” he is. Uses Boxer to deny the well-documented fact that he opposes emergency contraception with his “short ride” statement. Refuses to answer media questions to clarify his position.

Then we could talk about him trying to portray himself as pro-environment while voting for President Cheney’s energy bill…

“Does anyone have any information about internal polls from the Lamont campaign since the Big Dog’s campaign pit stop for Joenertia?”

I am interested too, but anything Jane posts here, goes right to Joe’s senior staff. The keep-Jane-out-of-the-Palace-to-see-Clinton shows that they are on Jane like white on rice. They probably read every post and every comment looking for something of value or something they can use against Ned. When it comes to Jane’s posts, I can only imagine the scrutiny.

Jane:
isn’t there at least one reporter at some of the larger Connecticut papers assigned to cover the Lamont campaign? If so, who is it? Does (s)he have an e-mail address?

“They probably read every post and every comment”

OK, then: YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO LOSE.

neurophius-19

The Kiss Float was on the front page of the Stamford Advocate on Tuesday, on the fold! It was featured as one of two counter-point pictures to the Clinton/Lieberman photo op. (The other one was of Ned.) It was great!

I meant to stick around and talk on the last thread, but my cutie-pie nephew came by to wish me happy birthday in his gurgling, babbling, adorable 14-month-old way, so I got sidetracked.

Thanks to everyone who wished me Happy Birthday! Yep, I’m 35 now, and qualified to run for President. I start fundraising for my Presidential exploratory committee tomorrow. :-)

(Nah, but I am looking for a new job!)

Ot.
Very intersting iteractive chart of the major factions in the ME @ slate.
If you are like me and sometimes can’t keep who hates who straight, this is for you.
http://www.slate.com/id/2146230/

Nice Glen Greenwald catch Dover, thanks.
“Even neoconservatives now accepting defeat in Iraq”
“David Frum was one of the leading neoconservative advocates of the invasion of Iraq. The former Bush speechwriter is a true believer, having co-authored a radical neoconservative book with Richard Perle entitled An End to Evil: How to Win the War on Terror, which — according to its publisher — “calls for the United States to overthrow the government of Iran, abandon support of a Palestinian state, blockade North Korea, use strong-arm tactics with Syria and China, disregard much of Europe as allies, and sever ties with Saudi Arabia.”

But in a strikingly candid essay on his National Review blog yesterday, Frum all but admits that the U.S. invasion of Iraq has been a failure, and says that the only realistic goal we can hope to achieve is preventing Iraq from becoming a training ground for Al Qaeda — a goal which was already achieved, of course, prior to our invasion:

‘Hands up, everybody who believes that the “hundreds” of troops that the Pentagon plans to move from the rest of Iraq into Baghdad will suffice to secure the capital again…..

Maura for President!

I bet that if you gave it a good shot, you would do better than coming in fifth in the New Hampshire Democratic primary, like the last candidate from Connecticut did…

“They probably read every post and every comment”

All I have to say to Joe’s people is:

Just relax for the next few weeks. No need to work too hard for Joe.

Enjoy all that Connecticut has to offer: the parks, the ocean, the beaches.

Titanyum at 4:42 pm
Dayum, I like the way you think.
Why didn’t I think of that?
Ned’s campaign might not like us to politely tear into this reporter the way we did into Church Lady Brady and WATB Harris, but what do we have to lose?

neurophius – 39

I could tie for third!!!!! :-)

Hi Kirby!

I am getting the same mail. I’m also getting bizarre pro-Lieberman emails full of anti-Lamont garbage. Lieberman’s mailings are just a pack of lies – he & his campaign have absolutely no shame.

I’m seeing lots of Lamont signs up in the Danbury/Bethel area. Have seen NO signs for Lieberman.

And the more I think about Clinton stumping for Lieberman, the more disgusted at Clinton I am.

Gary Hart has another book coming out in September with a framework for the Dem party. He devotes chapters to four Dem presidents who stood for solid Dem values (FDR for the New Deal; Truman for the Truman doctrine and his support of collective bodies such as NATO, SEATO, UN; Kennedy for advancing public service via the Peace Corp, etc. “ask not what your country can do for you…”; and Johnson for voting rights and the war on poverty. He commented that while Carter & Clinton had some positives – they really didn’t stand for profound Democratic values.

And he pointed out that Clinton is hugely at fault for not representing the voice of the Democratic party for the past six years – which has a lot to do with the Democrats appearing splintered and without leadership. Clinton has abdicated his moral authority on issues like the budget, the Iraq war, Katrina, etc. – playing his game of triangulation to benefit Hillary. I hadn’t really thought of it that way, but come to think of it Clinton’s silence and the damage it has caused speaks volumes. Thank God for Al Gore. At least he has felt compelled to honestly articulate outrage over what the Bush admin has done.

Maura ROFL

Dover Bitch 28, oh.my.god. The eagerness of the MSM to cooperate in their own increasing irrelevancy still amazes me.

a system prone to abuse

God I’m sick of this politespeak – how about “a system of deliberate total fucking thievery, coupled with chicanery, horseshit, and an ever-growing catalog of truly bizarre abuses of American citizens’ rights to privacy and free speech and movement. Oh and btw we’re fucked, because this country has been brainwashed into total pussy bedwetterhood.”

Just the old editor in me, I guess.

Sharkbabe!!!

What is Joe’s Take on the Rhythm Method, I wonder?

——–
People wishing to save embryos may need to rethink rhythm method

The August issue of Harper’s features an excerpt from “The Rhythm Method and Embryonic Death,” by Luc Bovens, published in the June issue of the Journal of Medical Ethics. In this paper, Professor Bovens argues that the rhythm method of birth control–the only method approved by the Catholic church–may be responsible for “massive embryonic death.”

http://www.motherjones.com/moj…..shing.html

Better Link: http://jme.bmjjournals.com/cgi…..l/32/6/355

The rhythm method and embryonic death
L Bovens

Correspondence to:
L Bovens
London School of Economics and Political Science, Department of Philosophy, Logic, and Scientific Method, Houghton Street, London

dab -

I’m glad you’re seeing lots of Lamont signage in your neck of the woods. Here in Stamford (aka Lieberman country) I don’t see many political signs at all, but some houses do have both Malloy and Lieberman signs together. (I imagine these are DTC members and such.) I’ve only seen one Lamont sign. My landlord (that is, my brother, who I affectionately call my slumlord) doesn’t go for political signage so I sadly have none in front of my house.

I like to think Stamford’s an aberration, though, so I’m glad to hear Lamont signs are more prevalent elsewhere in the state.

A realization I had today is that Lieberman, who I never thought much of, has completely destroyed any of his credibility during this campaign. I sure hope Ned wins the primary, because if it comes down to supporting Lieberman I’d imagine it’ll be hard for those who still believe in government. Thankfully I don’t live in Connecticut.

Lieberman should be ashamed, having spent eighteen years in the Senate and accomplishing absolutely nothing except enriching himself and his wife.

“Atilla the Hen” I’m in pun hell.

Have I said how much I am starting to hate the word, “concerned” ??? Lots of “concern” in DC.

Dear Lieber-paign,
Do you have any idea how awful you are? How about a core platform to run on, not from?
Homeland Security Dept. was another bad idea from the start.
One Lieber-apple sure can spoil a lot of American pies.

Belated happy b-day Maura! You are an inspiration and a true citizen soldier of this media-corrupted age. Keep it up and don’t be surprised if you end up drafted someday (for public office that is)

He commented that while Carter & Clinton had some positives – they really didn’t stand for profound Democratic values.

Gary Hart doesn’t consider human rights a Democratic value???????????????????? Or is he still sore because Carter’s VP beat him in 1984?

Hart doesn’t consider health care a Democratic value? ’cause Carter may not have succeeded, but it wasn’t for lack of trying.

I am beginning to remember why I didn’t support Hart in 1984.

neurosweetie!

Hart doesn’t consider health care a Democratic value? ’cause Carter may not have succeeded, but it wasn’t for lack of trying.

should have writting Clinton.
Preview is our friend.

Hmmmm, Maura. Not to be a carpetbaggerista or anything, but if I were you, I’d get to Wisconsin and work for the Russ. Yeah.

And speaking of “Just trust them,” who said “I trust the President”?

America’s newest pop tart…

“Here in Stamford (aka Lieberman country) I don’t see many political signs at all”

Thanks for that Maura, most of us wouldn’t have known that about Stamford, (I didn’t). Every house in Stamford without a sign is another victory for Ned.

Sharkbabe, thanks!!! It’s still my birthday, so it’s not belated yet. :-)

As for being drafted, hey, they just raised the elistment age limit to 42, didn’t they? The way this war is going, I could still get drafted in the real way!

The fact that I’m still eligible for enlistment for another 7 years does make me feel kinda young, I guess. Thanks, Bush’s neocon policies, the fountain of youth that keeps on giving!

Contrary to Lieberman’s assertions, this election is not about whether he has ever supported democratic causes. The bar is not so low that all he has to do is show that in the past he has supported women’s issues, the environment, etc.. Not even Lieberman is claiming that Ned Lamont would fail to support these same policies he is claiming he supports.

What the real issue in this election is is that the country is a fucking mess. Iraq ia a hell-hole, the economy is being bled to death by it, the fiscal irresponsibility of congress is blindly out of control, things like global warming and health care are completely ignored or made worse, education costs keep rising at double digits while congress keeps cutting student aid and taxes for the wealthy.

In other words, people are fed up and they want change. And the big question is will re-electing Joe Lieberman bring about any change, or will it be more of the same? That is what the election should be about.

And on the key issues, Lieberman is for more of the same. On Iraq, he insists everything is going in the right direction. He said on NPR monday evening that if he had to do it all over again, yes he would still support invading Iraq. He insists going to war to remove Saddam was exactly the right thing to do. And he would do it again.

Sure, he now blames Bush for failure in execution and he blames the ‘bad intelligence,’ but he thinks it is how America should be handling the middle east and terrorism, and so voters can cleary expect more of the same from Joe if he is re-elected. He will be there chewering on the invasion of Iran and a reliance on military power to effect policy. Don’t forget he was in support of going after Iraq way back in 1998 urging Clinton to take on Saddam.

And on health care, we know where Joe’s loyalties lie, with the big insurers and HMOs who want to keep milking everybody for huge profits while millions remain un-insured. Just like he helped his supporters get the bankruptcy bill through by voting for cloture.

I could go on from key issue to key issue and show that people want change, but they have no reason to expect if from Lieberman should he get re-elected. It will be more of the same from Joe. He will remain the Republican’s favorite democrat and bush’s staunches supporter, reserving his scorn for the progressive wing of the party, the one’s whose votes he does not even recognize as legitimate.

People want change. They sure as hell are not going to get change from Joe. He’s the patron saint of status quo. And he’s a big part of the reason why the country is in such a mess now. If the election is framed around change and people see that Lamont is the candidate who represents change, and Lieberman represents more of the same, Joe’s past support of democratic issues becomes meaningless. This election is about the futrure.

ccmask, great article – thanks.

ccmask, I really like your 4:56. I cannot understand why NARAL and PP aren’t educating Roman Catholics more about that. A lot of Catholics vote Republican solely because of seriously inaccurate teaching about the biology.

‘that’s my congresswoman up there….jane harman…proud to be a [bomb dropping, death merchant supporting, completely clueless] american!’

What Sharkbabe 4:53 pm said.

I love the word chicanery, it’s a classic that just doesn’t get thrown around enough.

Alice,

He didn’t discount Carter – he simply said he wasn’t a strong president and wasn’t effective, unlike the other four presidents he wrote about. Would you dispute that perspective? In any event, his Air America interview was very compelling.

Sadly, if it wasn’t for “Monkey Business” I think Gary Hart would have won the Dem primary – I wish he had. And his new book sounds compelling.

Hart has been a consistently strong voice since 2000 in opposition to the Bush administration – unlike Clinton.

OT – Steve Clemons is reporting that Dick Durbin sez we are only one vote short of filibuster on Bolton…

The Washington Note

where does Lieberman stand?

I haven’t been here much so don’t know if you’ve seen this.

http://www.pennlive.com/printe…..amp;coll=1

Actually news of the Ana Marie thing doesn’t rot my socks that much, since nothing could be more expected.

(AMC job interview)

Q: are you shallow?

A: fucking absolutely.

Q: are you truly committed to the outside-the-box shallowness that is our organization’s brand, constant aspiration, and future?

A: like I said, dumbass, the fuck yeah. (sharon stone leg-recrossing)

Q: thank you Ms. Cox, we’re impressed. You’ll be hearing from us soon.

Q: are you marginally

damn remnant wordage

db at 5:06, Amen.

Nice catch oldCoastie.

db @ 5:06, bingo. Thanks for saying it out loud.

Hey all — just got home from dinner with Oilfieldguy, Mr. ReddHedd and the peanut. Ate too much, but had a lovely dinner. OFG is such a sweetie, and was good to break bread with him again. :)

What craziness have I missed in my little bit of time away from the keyboard this evening? Bolton decide to withdraw his name from consideration or anything? (As if.)

t’anks, JC – seems like good news…

Sharkbabe on Ann Marie Whateverthefuck. My sides are splitting! Love your snarky do.

CHS, troll free, as far as I know.

Christy! OK, what did OFG eat. And then what did Peanut eat.

Wow. I just got off the phone after a call from a fundraiser for Planned Parenthood. They know I have contributed in the past, and would like me to do so on a more regular basis. I was interested in what she had to say about PP’s current efforts in Congress and in the courts, but I told her I was unwilling to contribute to them at this time because of their endorsement of Lieberman. I gave her a little background on his Alito filibuster vote. It was obvious that she knew what I was talking about, and I suspect she has been hearing it a lot. I told her I would reconsider after the Connecticut primary in the event that PP decides to endorse Lamont and not Lieberman’s independent run. She said she understood, and promised to give the organization feedback on what I said. It was a polite conversation on both sides.

could we just stipulate that sen joe Lieberman,

the bassett hound of the senate,

is a stupid man,

whose mind operates at about the same level as that of the president he so admires?

Ah, Jane, let us hope Ned wins this one, after which you’ll be an even bigger, more powerful Goddess than you already are, and let us remember that the fight will go on, in any case.

The Big Dog carries a lot of weight. Fortunately for us, if Lamont wins, Bill will figure it out, as he is The Great White Shark of American politics. He’ll read the wind, and support the people.

Keep up the most-excellent work, and lose the husband. To me. No way he likes you as much as I do. LOL.

John O

Happy Birthday Maura!
(I’m going to channel you the next time I see George Allen or some other creep who needs to be called to account;) !

Ann the Ass’ freakiness has turned into borderline personality syndrome. This from Raw Story:

Ann Coulter repeated on Hardball her insinuation that Bill Clinton is gay, then went on to joke that “may not be gay but Al Gore a total fag”. She also kept saying that liberalism stood for “sucking the brains out of babies.”

Speaking of boxers, BB gets my 2 cents in response to her response to my letter (bringing my total up to 4 cents I suppose):

I wrote to her before she went to Connecticut. I got the same response that others have posted on FDL. Here’s my follow-up which includes a quote I picked up from MyDD:

Dear Senator Boxer,

Thank you for your response.

I must say it was disheartening to see you describe Senator Lieberman as firmly pro-choice after his unacceptable vote for cloture on the Alito nomination. And while it’s hard for me to judge whether his comment about rape victims walking to another hospital after being denied contraceptives ‘on principle’ was more clueless or heartless, it was clearly wrong and I was disappointed to see you defend and misrepresent what he said.

At this point I just hope Senator Lieberman doesn’t embarrass you further. Here is a piece of an article from Newsday; it refers to Lieberman and John McCain:

‘Though the two seem like they might make a bipartisan dream team in the White House _ should one change parties or both go independent _ the suggestion was greeted only with a laugh. “Every now and again we’re asked that, and McCain always says we couldn’t do it because each of us would want to be vice president,” Lieberman told The Associated Press. “And my presidential campaign days are over _ I hope his aren’t.”‘

” I hope (McCain’s presidential campaign days) aren’t (over)”. That’s a fine bit of friendly chatter from a Democratic Senator about a very conservative and pro war Republican at a time when the Republican congress has abdicated its responsibility to provide a check on a ‘wartime’ president. Lieberman is already blessing a McCain candidacy. Can you be certain that an outright endorsement will not follow? I am not certain at all. It is my hope that if Lieberman gets around to officially endorsing McCain for president he is not at that time a sitting Democratic United States Senator. That alone would be reason to hope his relatively progressive primary opponent wins the nomination.

Sincerely,
Robbie O
Oakland, California

Just trying to keep the pressure on.

As far as I know, Joe’s been in public service his whole working life. That’s an honored, but not (or shouldn’t be) lucrative profession. How, exactly, did he come to be a millionaire?>

orionATL, so stipulated for the last 6 years.

Bob Schieffer’s lead story: the Landis doping scandal. WTF?

Sharkbabe channels Wonkoid! WHOO HOO!

neuro 81 – thanks for sharing and cool on you – God, the words Alito and filibuster just set my blood boiling…

NEDNEDNED

Go Robbie!

The Redds and OFG with peanut – sounds like the title of some classic painting

Countdown: New Democratic slogan is “Six in 06!”
*yawn* I think they need to hire Norskeflamethrower…

meta says
July 27th, 2006 at 5:29 pm

Ann the Ass’ freakiness has turned into borderline personality syndrome. This from Raw Story:

Ann Coulter repeated on Hardball her insinuation that Bill Clinton is gay, then went on to joke that “may not be gay but Al Gore a total fag”. She also kept saying that liberalism stood for “sucking the brains out of babies.”

I am pretty sure her confidence has been shaken and she is now ripping material from Larry the Cable Guy and South Park (that Christopher Reeves episode).

dammit!!! delete my post!

ok gotta go do my 1/2 mile evening run, back in a while

(hey, does my fdl-addicted fat ass make my ass look fat?)

Italics Be Gone!

Boxers or briefs?

For all me, I says neither.

Boxers ain’t but Short-Rider briefs in Sir Galahad clothing.

Talk about tryin’ to hide yer shame and still gettin’ caught w/yer ass hangin’ out.

Grover Norquist might coulda been talkin’ ’bout bi-partisanship when he said it original, but just goes to show that even intra-partisan ass-kissing can be the moral equivalent a date-rape.

Wha’ hoppen to the ol’ Boxer Rebellion?

As President Clinton lost Congress. So much for his coattails. If I were a politician depending on Bill’s coattails, I’d be looking for a safety net. Too bad for Joe, there probably isn’t one for him.

dammit! I am congenitally unable to do tags, and will never attempt it again.

The Boxer Rebellion got the Kiss of Death from Joey Short Ride.

breathe, sherocket – computers suck and are the enemy – love yer name

nah, sherocket – you just gotta remember that back slash at the end…

In bush land the enemy of my friend is my friend.

pheww. Thank you Sharkbabe! Right back at you!

Thank you Old Coastie. I think that after screwing them up a couple of times, I put a jinx on myself from worrying about it too much.

Happy Birthday Maura!

Why is it that everything Joe touches turns to shit? Clinton impeachment, 2000 race, Homeland Security , the War in Iraq, his embarrassing 2004 run, censoring pop culture, and now his own primary race. Quite a record. Why did Bush kiss him, anyway? Look at his ratings since then. I wouldn’t let the man shake my hand. Might rub off.

in 1984, it was a 3-way race in the Democratic Party primaries — Mondale, Jackson and Hart. Gary Hart was running as the conservative Democrat back then in that pack.

I was a fulltime staffer for Jesse Jackson — we won Indianapolis which totally roiled the Democratic Party locally!

Lieberman is just a symptom. The DLC had their feckless annual worry fest this week. Their internet site has a brave statement about the country needing a real, frank, fearless debate about Iraq war policy.

Was there a real debate about Iraq war policy at the DLC small frightedn mammal congregation this week? Not anything I can see. Not a peep about it. They did have a special session worrying about what the Dems might be able to say to LOOK strong on foreign policy. but I can’t see anything in the news or on their internet site that they had the guts to actually have a debate. We’ll keep checking, since this is just to pathetic and I don’t want to believe its true.

Lotta stuff about new college loan programs, inverse-reverse-wonkiful new tax microfixes to help working poor. All wonderful good ideas and I mean that sincerely.

But Lieberman is just a sympton of total lack of leadership on Iraq, or war on terror, or Afghanistan, or Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Middle east oil, on like, all the scary life and death, and economic, stuff. And hundreds of people dying every day, too, by the way.

So, pile on Lieberman good on this issue, and after the primary move on to the next arrogant and/or cowardly target, be it Dem or GOP.

re: my 5:37 p.m.

Just one of many possible slogans for the Democrats in 2006:

“KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…THERE’S A LOTTA FIGHT LEFT IN THE BASTARDS!!”

NorskeFlameThrower, FDL comments, 06/07/06

Damn the Democratic Leadership Council. Who are they leading? And to where… and to what end?

Did anyone else receive the letter from Carville on behalf of the DNC? Talking about how Rethugs are ruining the country, we just gotta take it back.

WTF? His wifey is a sock puppet of the dark overlords – it’s at least as much up to Carville to do something about it as it us up to us. Bastard. I’m going to send him a measured reply, as soon as the steam coming from my ears abates.

Huckermill! Left you a note at the bottome of the Snubbing thread. Where ya been?

dab at 43

I’ve been intrigued and impressed by Hart’s forthright stances more and more. He seems to have changed in the last 15 years. I met him once – years ago – at Warren Beatty’s house and he seemed rather too slick by half for me. Now, standing next to Warren and seeming too slick is quite an accomplishment. I’m not dissing Warren, but, you had to be there, I guess. Nonetheless, he’s right on about Clinton, as well.

132 JWR says:

Huckermill – If your computer is really as crusty and moth eaten as that old wallet, it may not support the latest Flash. Here’s the main Flash player page just in case. ‘N good luck.

Whoo-HOOOOO!

Tx. for the recommendation, JWR, tho’ it warn’t necessary, turns out.

I mighta been livin’ [c’mon, sing along, you know the tune! Puff the magic …] “in the land-a-hy-per-bo-leeeee” when I says my ‘puter is ancient. It’s got Ex-Pee, so I ain’t quite lost in the wilds a MS-DOS or nothin’, but the ol’ Crashway is ’bout a Bush Administration old or so (which is partly how’z’come it just fucking seems like it’s been around for-fucking-forever), but my ‘puter d/l’ed the Adobe Flash gig and it didn’t make no differnce.

But. (On to the Woo-HOOO! part.)

Just started plugging away in my control panel and turned up a “chg. speaker settin’s” and it were the innocuous differnce betwixt the “Line 0 modem” thingamabob to “ESS Allegro” didgeridoo. Weird how some audio played ‘n others didn’t, but there it is.

You-Tube accessible now, I is (tho’ it still takes an eternity to d/l, but still — broadband-less bastards like me what lives out in the sticks ain’t got the luxury a bein’ choosy).

137 Mommybrain says:

Huckermill!! Where the hail you been, boy? I was just thinking to myself as I opened up the box of tubes that lead to my internets – where the hail is Huckermill? And there you were. At least, you were an hour ago. Mighty fine to see you again, sir.

How-do to you, too, MommyB.

You make a body feel most welcome, ‘n I appreciates it, you and the warm hospitality.

At the end of March, Jesse Jackson won the Michigan primary and became neck and neck with Dukakis in delegate count.

Polls show that Dukakis has a better chance at beating the likely republican nominee George Bush than either Jackson or Gore. The poll results show Bush ahead of Dukakis 49% to 43%.

At this point, it seems unlikely that any one candidate will win enough delegates in the primaries to lock up the nomination …

How far we’ve fallen in 20 years. These days, some people call Lieberman a liberal. We’ve become a party of mushy centrism leaning hard right and standing for nearly nothing.

Hi Suzanne. I just got your message, which I’ll pass along. Thanks so much.

I saw Carville on the TV the other day… he doesn’t look well – kinda skelator… and his wifey looks terrible…. what in the world is going on in that household?

totally ot but for a good laugh
countdown did a seg on the horrible annoying commercial for “Head on”
you know the one that repeats itself 3 or 4 times -apply directly to your forehead. do advertisers think that viewers are so dumb we don’t know where to put it. really funny, but guess who is laughing all the way to the bank. Maybe we can make a commercial like that for the dems in 06. with the funny stuff i see here on a regular basis I’m sure someone could make a great spoof

in 1988, in the Democratic Party Presidential primaries, out of Dukakis, Jackson and Gore, it was Al Gore who ran as the conservative Democrat… he was the DLC poster boy at the time.

Great The Nation article on Lamont, read and recommend.

*ilson, I worked for Mondale in 1984 but in 1988 I caucused with the Jesse Jackson folks. Never thought Dukakis had it, being from Massachusetts and all.

Meta: I wasn’t trying to push my house, in case it came across that way. Put them in touch.

107 Morris Sheppard says:

Why is it that everything Joe touches turns to shit? … I wouldn’t let the man shake my hand. Might rub off.

Good point.

My guess is Holy Joe is been infected by the terminal Bush contagion of intractably reckless counterproductive stupidity.

Fish rots at the head, course, so now, if I may be so bold, I’ll dust off a little sayin’ I coined back in election of aught-four:

………..

“George W. Bush has the reverse-Midas touch. Everything he touches turns to shit.”

117- ’skeletor’ is a runner. I saw him in NOLA 3 years ago and I must say, he was quite fit.

OldCoastie 117-Scooter Libby fundraiser at my house. That would put me off my feed too.

Yes, Lamont should come up with a take-off on the ‘Head-On’ commercial. It was on the CBS news tonight.

The choice between more of the same Lieberman vs. a change in direction from Lamont is such a simple and basic and obvious choice that it could fit into that commercial format.

Is Joe Lieberman giving you a head ache with his endless talk of progress in iraq, or his support of the right wing republican agenda? Lamont On. Lamont on. Lieberman off.

kirby- thanks for your reply- sorry am so late to respond. I don’t have time for a long response, but what you said made much sense. Thanks.

…and… Maura… Happy happy bd!!!! Thanks for what you are doing.

Maybe just “Lamont on, Lieberman gone. Lamont On, Lieberman gone.”

huckermill – Woo-hooo! I’ve got a dial-up diameter internet tube, too, so I empathize. But it’s nice to be able to see some of this YouTube stuff even if it is an hour after everybody’s done talking about it. (There’s a way to switch to low-quality, but it’s still slooow to d/l.)

Just gave another $100 to Lamont’s campaign as a gesture of solidarity with Spazeboy, CT Bob and Maura.

I will not be in Connecticut for the week leading up to the election, but I will do everything I can from a distance.

oh… also late to respond… Hi Christy!!!! Was the Peanut the frosting on the cake for OFG?

1. Lamont’s millions: one thing about his money, it should mean that Lamont will never be beholden to corporate interests, nor a puppet of big pharma, etc. Lamont will never need huge campaign contributions. Now, how to put that into a sharp campaign response is beyond me.

2. Every indicator reported by Ms. Hamsher indicates that Lieberman is now running a totally negative campaign. The problem with the tactic is that sometimes such sludge can stick. “Mr. Smith Goes To Washington” is fine and dreamy….but I think Lamont should consider taking the gloves off. Fight back, and swing hard. Lieberman has many weaknesses, but you got to punch into those weaknesses.

Ghostman

meta, pretty soon people will just say, “Oh Ann Coulter, bless her heart.” Nod, and move on. You know how ‘bless her heart’ can take on many, many meanings, and mine would be, “Lord help her, cause I sure can’t.”

125 – AHH! that’s right! the scooter fundraiser! 3 years ago, Carville looked healthy…. the other night, he looked sick… scrawny, drawn…. not well…

and Matlin looks frightening…

OT, but: Israel’s “Defense” forces have caused an environmental calamity in addition to the human atrocities they are performing. http://www.alertnet.org/thenew…..727475.htm
Innocent women and children and now wild creatures and the environment. They have become like their enemy. Do they not understand the lesson of the dragon’s teeth?
Our species cannot be saved.

DLC and Gore. I would think that Gore has broken w/ DLC, by virtue of his global warming creds, if for no other reason. Is this a false assumption?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5222728.stm

‘Three killed’ in Gaza violence

Israeli troops have killed three Palestinians, including a 75-year-old woman, in Gaza, Palestinians say.

The reported deaths come a day after at least 23 Palestinians were killed by the Israeli military in Gaza.

Israeli forces have been taking part in air and ground assaults in Gaza in a campaign to force the release of an Israeli soldier, captured in late June.

Lamont needs to go on the attack and not let Lieberman redefine himself or he’s going to lose. That’s my gut read. He can’t just tread water, not with all the resources Lieberman is marshalling. They are going to wring his neck, especially in the closing week.

Of course, that’s just my opinion and i’m nobody but a dem voter who has watched this same game play out too many times in the apst.

new thread — more Big Dog

db -
i think part of neds appeal for many folks is that he seems above all that.

*ilson, are you baiting me

Shooting and killing Palestinians has become almost a sport, much like fox hunting in Britain, or doves in Texas.

Lieberman reminds me of the wide mouthed frog… Blabbering away until he gets called on the essentials then poof! nowhere to be found.

thanks visitor at 120 for the link the the nation article. that is probably the best ned lamont blub i have read that was not on a blog like FDL or myleftnutmeg.

Jane, following your example, I’m modifying my Lieberman cites from RGJoe to
Joey “short ride” Lieberman.

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Visitor’s Nation article on Ned Lamont, linked at 6:08 p.m. above, is very good.

” Lieberman finds himself forced into the Lyndon Johnson role, about right from an ideological standpoint. He’s more conservative than most Democrats, but he’s not Ann Coulter in drag even if Coulter is backing him.”

Is darkblack in the house?

A new thread this way comes.

db -
i think part of neds appeal for many folks is that he seems above all that.

I agree, and I didn’t mean to suggest that he change that, or that he personally engage in ugly attacks. By attack I mean on the offense as far as defining Joe. I think many of Lamont’s commercials were very aggressive in how they went after Lieberman. I hope he keeps that up. I haven’t seen anything new lately. And the Clinton stuff has to be countered and put into perspective.

But again, I’m no pro….

huckermill 123

Well put!

lo, the thought of baiting you never crossed my mind. I regularly post snippets from the BBC news. Reality bites, sometimes.

*ilson-Reality is unfortunately a 2-way street.

“More than 1,400 Katyushas have hit northern Israel since the start of the fighting. The Health Ministry announced that 1,733 people have been treated at hospitals throughout the North, mostly for shock and anxiety attacks. Ninety-eight people remain hospitalized, 10 in serious condition, 36 in moderate condition, and 52 with light injuries.

Another 26 people have been seriously injured, 36 have suffered moderate injuries and 319 have been lightly hurt. A total of 595 people have been treated for shock.

On Wednesday, four people were wounded, one seriously and the rest lightly, as more than 100 rockets slammed into northern Israel. Another 14 people were treated for shock.” -Haarretz

db 126

What you said.

And “Joe Lieberman is part of the Washington Establishment. The folks who think everything is just fine in this country and all we need is more of the same.

If you believe, like me, that those things that are going in the wrong direction – - jobs, the war, health costs – - are because of the Washington Establishment and Joe Lieberman, then vote for me, Ned Lamont, and you and I will change things in Washington.”

I know of no statistics of Lebanese and Palestinians on the issue of ’shock, anxiety and panic attacks’. I am merely reporting the actual deaths of human beings being inflicted by official government troops. Creating 500,000 refugees in Lebanon has undoutedly incurred some psychological disturbances amongst them, wouldnt you think?

The world is observing and decrying the massively disproportional carnage being done by official government actions using US tax dollars and US-supplied military equipment.

“Oversight? Overrated.”
Sure. But what politicians really say about their inability to conduct checks and balances is more like: ‘Pls excuse this oversight.’

*ilson people are dying in israel too
Magen David Adom
STATISTICS JULY 12 – 24, 2006
Hizbollah rockets hit northern Israel – 2,200
Israelis in bomb shelters – 1,000,000
MDA ambulances deployed in north – 750
Number wounded, treated by MDA – 823
Israeli civilians killed – 17
Wounded today (July 24) – 49

death is death. 20 lives vs 200 it isn’t a pissing contest.
i was merely trying to show you that the suffering is the one thing these people have in common. The MSM is not doing a great job of showing both sides
Look you don’t have to agree with me and i am not trying to win an argument here. there are too many losers on both sides. Sometimes i feel your remarks are well….
i would love to know more of your background it might help me understand how your views on that region were formed.

The last I read (about a year ago), regarding the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, the ratio of deaths was approximately 3 Palestinians killed to one Israeli killed. In any event this conflict and the war in Lebanon is in no way a level playing field. Militarily and in terms of weapons, it is heavily weighted in favor of the Israelis. And the Israeli government enjoys complete backing by the U.S. in the form of money and weaponry. The Palestinians have no such allies. I just cannot understand why Israel deserves to have a secure homeland, but the Palestinians do not. It’s a moral question. It’s about fairness.

lo

while you are citing,

cite some of the haarretz articles and editorials over the last year about the harm that has been done to israel as a nation by its dependence on the united states for its security, and, specifically, AIPAC (american-israeli political action committee).

other interested readers might want to go to “the next hurrah” and read
emptywheel’s “the next war and phase II”.

to me,

it always suggests a hired, or at least trained, voice when someone like lo comes up with all these “current” numbers.

it makes the reader’s focus very narrow, doesn’t it? (like blinders)

clearly, lo’s comment is intended as propaganda, which is not to say it is inaccurate, just that it it is manipulative and one-sided.

and paid for.

so

lo

who paid you?

what is your affiliation?

aside:

i thought the Katyusha was a russian rocket:

and that the current rockets were iranian.

where did i go wrong?

did iran buy them from russia?

were they a “gift”?

educate me.

“so

lo

who paid you?” ROFL please tell me you are joking. I am health teacher from NJ and a lifelong democrat. I can’t even type I am laughing sooo hard. I only voice my opinion here about israel to defend it when others seem to show that one-sided view. My aim is for discussion actual intelligent discussion from educated people who like to learn from one another. moderator did you miss that one?

Rotten fish heads….

Nice, we are being ‘led’ by rotten fish heads. We in the ‘lefty’ blogosphere could not invented a better punching bag for what’s been rotting at the top for years.

Arrogance…got that.

Ignorance…check.

Patronising…down to a tee.

Smarmy…yup.

Cowardly…oh yeah!

So let’s keep working his sad sack political face like the speed bag and then hit him with a big left hand for the knockout.

And after him I nominate my Senators DiFi and The Boxer Short for use as political heavy bags.

I’d love to see ‘em out on their Armani-suited butts.

Did you do something to support Ned today?

Rotten fish heads….

Nice, we are being ‘led’ by rotten fish heads. We in the ‘lefty’ blogosphere could not invented a better punching bag than HolyJoe for what’s been rotting at the top for years.

Arrogance…got that.

Ignorance…check.

Patronising…down to a tee.

Smarmy…yup.

Cowardly…oh yeah!

So let’s keep working his sad sack political face like the speed bag and then hit him with a big left hand for the knockout.

And after him I nominate my Senators DiFi and The Boxer Short for use as political heavy bags.

I’d love to see ‘em out on their Armani-suited butts.

Did you do something to support Ned today?

lo…7:50pm

“so

lo

who paid you?”

That remark from orionATL is uncalled for. It is outrageous! It is at once disgraceful and horribly offensive.

thanks kiddo
it realyy made me laugh when compared to my reality

lo, so you deny receiving bags of golden sheckels from the Elders of Zion?

you handled Orions over-the-top comment well. Katyusha is the generic name for that very successful rocket design from Russia in WW2. Many countries now manufacture it, it’s so effective and simple. like the AK-47.

http://www.alternet.org/story/39527
Here is David Brooks recently on Joe Lieberman — “Whether you agree with him or not, he is transparently the most kind-hearted and well-intentioned of men”. Here is Joe Lieberman on Dick Cheney on October 5, 2000 — “I have great respect for Dick Cheney. I don’t agree with a lot of things he said in this campaign, but I have great respect for him. He was a distinguished secretary of defense. And I don’t have anything negative to say about him.”

Rational Elitists just don’t get it. For those fawning words alone Joe, you just gotta go.

And what about oversight into the Iraq War contracting ripoffs? Should not Joe, the leading Dem after 2000, have lead the way here? Al Franken has been ragging Joe about this, and Joe avoids coming on Air America.

From the Toledo Blade (7/28/06)
http://www.toledoblade.com/app…..-1/OPINION