
Small wonder Joey "short ride" Lieberman doesn't want to campaign on his record; his war is not going so well, and his Department of Homeland Security has been such a cocked up waste of money and resources people are afraid to even start peeling that onion lest the core be more rotten than we have the stomach to handle at the moment.
But the fact remains that as Chairman of the Government Affairs Committe, the creation of the Department of Homeland Security was Lieberman's personal pet project. And according to a new report requested by the indespensible Henry Waxman, the "let's just trust them" attitude toward oversight doesn't seem to have worked all that well:
Lawmakers say that since the Homeland Security Department's formation in 2003, an explosion of no-bid deals and a critical shortage of trained government contract managers have created a system prone to abuse. Based on a comprehensive survey of hundreds of government audits, 32 Homeland Security Department contracts worth a total of $34 billion have "experienced significant overcharges, wasteful spending, or mismanagement," according to the report, which is slated for release today and was obtained in advance by The Washington Post.
The value of contracts awarded without full competition increased 739 percent from 2003 to 2005, to $5.5 billion, more than half the $10 billion awarded by the department that year. By comparison, the agency awarded a total of $3.5 billion in contracts in 2003, the year it was created.
You would think somebody might ask Joe about this. This is his handiwork, after all -- he got a virtual blank check after 9/11 to do whatever he wanted and this is what we got. Yet the press is consumed with just about every other aspect of this race so long as it has to do with Ned Lamont's money, which -- might I add -- is no more remote to the average voter than that of millionaire Joe Lieberman.
Lieberman wholly avoids the press, and those who do manage to find him don't press him for answers to hard questions like how he feels his war is going and whether he still supports the policies being pursued by the President. He won't even answer questions from the New York Times, and the dodge seems to be working -- rather than admit they're being blown off, the press dutifully prints every bit of dissembling gibberish that Lieberman's press hound, Marion "Atilla the Hen" Steinfels, gives them.
So let's have it, Ned. The voters want to know. The war is quite boring and there is no more pressing matter before us.
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Boxers all the way.
Jane- what’s your latest take on the mood on the ground in CT re: the primary? More name recognition for Lamont? Are the voters “getting it” as far as Lieberman’s record?
Hmm. Short Ride Joey won’t talk to the New York Times. Deadeye Dick Cheney kicked the New York Times reporter off of Air Force 2. They seem to share a common viewpoint with regard to the press. But of course, that’s not all they have in common.
Boxers or briefs? I dunno - the Boxers were just up there campaigning for Joe, so maybe he’d wanna go with the briefs.
I’m very sorry to hear about the CT media. Here’s a terrific story on Iraq from the WaPo, maybe they’ll pick it up?
‘Waiting to Get Blown Up’
Roots!
No more Boxers for me, thanks.
WATBs don’t wear boxers or briefs.
They wear diapers.
and the Middle East burns while Nero-Con plays the piano.
Why front on it? Boxer could use a better briefing before she jumps on Joe’s wasted bandwagon again.
‘Mmmm…Salty’
;>)
The SCLM presents it thusly:
….Lieberman’s opponent “Millionaire Ned Lamont”.
I don’t know, but I’d bet that RGJoe is even richer than Lamont. But you’d never hear it from the Liberal Media.
I didn’t know this about Joey and the Dept. of Homeland Security, as if there wasn’t enough reasons why. And as side note, I just can’t comprehend all this effort and money for such a weasly, snide, and pathetic excuse of a man.
Here’s today’s mail call here in CT. Very nice mailer from Ned about standing up for the working person.
Another Ned piece
“Joe Lieberman flip-flopped on Samuel Alito’s nomination to the Supreme Court, enabling George Bush and the far right to take over for years to come. Now, we can already see the damage…
In just the first few months, the Supreme Court… ruled the first amendment does not protect governmnet employee internal whistleblowers
…limited the scope of the Clean Water Act
And we all know what could happen next year…the Supreme Court has agreed to consider two cases on reproductive rights whose outcome threatens a woman’s right to choose.
“This [Lieberman’s vote against filibuster] is a slap in the face to every woman of this state, no matter her political beliefs, economic status or race” Rosemary Dempsey, Pres CT NOW.”
In the very same mailbox came this from Lieberman:
“US Senator Joe Lieberman Fighting for the Values we Share
Protecting the Right to Choose and Ensuring Access to Emergency Contraception
Joe Lieberman has always been a steadfast defender fighting to protect every woman’s most basic freedeom — the right to choose. He’s stood tough against the Bush Administration’s attempts to curtail this right, and opposed the nomination of Samual Alito to the Supreme Court. Joe has also supported a woman’ access to emergency contraception.
Improving Women’s Health Care
Joe has consistently fought for fair family and medical leave and for expanded access to affordable care. He’s worked to increase funding for breast cancer research. And Joe has fought to ensure health care plans provide fair and equitable coverage for all contraceptive services.
Fighting for Pay Equity, Combating Violence Against Women
Throughout his career, Joe’s always fought for pay equity and has worked to eliminate barriers to women’s advancement in the workplace. Joe is proud that both his Chief of Staff and Connecticut State Director are accomplished women leaders. And Joe’s aggressively fought for strict child support enforcement measures and supported efforts to combat violence against women.
The Only Candidate For Senate Endorsed By The Connecticut State Democratic Party
Endorsed by NARAL Pro-Choice America
Endorsed by Planned Parenthood PAC”
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
I doubt very much that Lieberman is wealthier than Lamont. But Joe’s personal wealth is irrelevant in this race, because Joe gets all the money he wants from special interests.
Lieberman won’t talk to the press, yet the press covers for him and attack his opponent for him. And Democrats stump for him, even though he made it clear that he would abandon the Party at the drop of a hat. They don’t care what the people want. What kind of democracy are we still clinging to?
Have there been any sightings of The Kiss Float lately?
de neuro 17,
Mebbe not at this point, but just wait til he cashes in his chips.
(Popping in as usual)
From previous thread:
Anyone find is painfully ironic that Joe L. now values Big Dog’s attention when in 2000 he and the entire Gore campaign ran hard and fast as they could in the opposite direction from Big Dog?
What happened in 6 years? Is he banking on people forgetting Big Dog’s moral transgressions?
Or, perhaps those personal failings didn’t mean shit then so they don’t mean shit now?
I can’t write a sufficiently scathing accusation that would describe that level of hypocrisy so I’ll just stop.
M at 5:
I work with 12 home care nurses and a number of clerical support folks. No one is even aware there is a primary. Now, I work for nuns, so I need to keep a low profile on the choice front out of respect for them, and I would guess that many of these nurses share those views and are not registered Ds, but still — the TV commercial saturation is not penetrating their already busy, busy lives.
Rarely leads the news here — in the paper from time to time. Ned doing much more with radio commercials.
It’s an interesting time — my hunch is that the same people who are oblivious to the primary are also not particularly keeping up on the situation in the Middle East or Bush’s call for more troops in Baghdad. They are just too swamped managing their daily lives.
On the other hand, in summertime, folks connected to schools are off and have more time to read and think and digest. That’s the upside to the August primary — not as much static that will happen once back-to-school occurs.
The “on the ground” sentiment I have been able to discern is that the people who are pro Ned and anti-Lieberman are so much more passionate and will make sure that they and their friends vote. I have seen absolutely NO passion or enthusiasm for Joe. And, I think that will be the story of this election on 8/8. We care, they don’t. Ned wins.
I’ll do the digging if needed to provide the links, but am I the only one who remembered recoiling in disgust when Lieberman busied himself playing devils advocate during the Abu Ghraib, the 9/11, and the Condi Rice confirmation hearings?
As I recall, he was trying to outwing even the most rabid neo-cons with over-the-top descriptions of how grateful we should be for people like Condi, how unpatriotic it was to question anything around 9/11, and channeling Limbaugh on Abu Ghraib being nothin’ special.
you are not alone, thingwarbler.
Given how little time is left, I wonder even if Froomkin did a piece on the CT Media’s failure to press Joe, if it would even matter?
I just mention Froomkin, because I don’t know of anyone else at the NYT’s or the WaPo who would even address it with the vigor it requires.
Hilde says:
“I can’t write a sufficiently scathing accusation that would describe that level of hypocrisy”
Here’s one: It’s all about Joe. He will do whatever he sees as being in his best interest, period.
1998: verbally attack Bill Clinton on the Senate floor. Makes him look good with the “morality” crowd.
2000: runs away from Bill Clinton in his vp race. Thinks it will work to his advantage (even though it didn’t).
2006: July. Drags the “immoral” Big Dog into his Senate race. Kisses Bill’s ass. Thinks it will help him win re-election.
2006: August. Declares independent candidacy after losing Democratic primary to Ned Lamont (treasonously collected signatures while still seeking the Democratic nomination). Has a rude awakening when he calls Big Dog to come campaign for him again. No mo, Joe.
Does anyone have any information about internal polls from the Lamont campaign since the Big Dog’s campaign pit stop for Joenertia?
Anyone with access to the campaign know how they plan to respond to the reported TV blitz with the Big Dog’s mug endorsing Joenertia?
I am interested in in the down and dirty campaign details. GOTV, TV ads, polls, etc.
OT and maybe already mentioned (been too busy working today to read much), but this was just sent to me:
ANA MARIE COX NAMED WASHINGTON EDITOR, TIME.COM
neurophius, thanks for filling in my blanks..
Shorter Joe to constituents: You’re not the boss of me!
Also, Glenn Greenwald is a must-read today.
Oh, I forgot to mention, votes with the Republicans to kill the filibuster of the radically antichoice ScAlito’s nomination to the Supreme Court, then votes “against” the nomination when it doesn’t matter. Then touts his record as “pro-choice” and cites endorsement of his candidacy by national NARAL and PP groups. Fails to mention that the local chapters–the ones who really know him well–are opposing his candidacy. Brings in Barbara Boxer to damage her credibility by talking about how “pro-choice” he is. Uses Boxer to deny the well-documented fact that he opposes emergency contraception with his “short ride” statement. Refuses to answer media questions to clarify his position.
Then we could talk about him trying to portray himself as pro-environment while voting for President Cheney’s energy bill…
“Does anyone have any information about internal polls from the Lamont campaign since the Big Dog’s campaign pit stop for Joenertia?”
I am interested too, but anything Jane posts here, goes right to Joe’s senior staff. The keep-Jane-out-of-the-Palace-to-see-Clinton shows that they are on Jane like white on rice. They probably read every post and every comment looking for something of value or something they can use against Ned. When it comes to Jane’s posts, I can only imagine the scrutiny.
Jane:
isn’t there at least one reporter at some of the larger Connecticut papers assigned to cover the Lamont campaign? If so, who is it? Does (s)he have an e-mail address?
“They probably read every post and every comment”
OK, then: YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO LOSE.
neurophius-19
The Kiss Float was on the front page of the Stamford Advocate on Tuesday, on the fold! It was featured as one of two counter-point pictures to the Clinton/Lieberman photo op. (The other one was of Ned.) It was great!
I meant to stick around and talk on the last thread, but my cutie-pie nephew came by to wish me happy birthday in his gurgling, babbling, adorable 14-month-old way, so I got sidetracked.
Thanks to everyone who wished me Happy Birthday! Yep, I’m 35 now, and qualified to run for President. I start fundraising for my Presidential exploratory committee tomorrow. :-)
(Nah, but I am looking for a new job!)
Ot.
Very intersting iteractive chart of the major factions in the ME @ slate.
If you are like me and sometimes can’t keep who hates who straight, this is for you.
http://www.slate.com/id/2146230/
Nice Glen Greenwald catch Dover, thanks.
“Even neoconservatives now accepting defeat in Iraq”
“David Frum was one of the leading neoconservative advocates of the invasion of Iraq. The former Bush speechwriter is a true believer, having co-authored a radical neoconservative book with Richard Perle entitled An End to Evil: How to Win the War on Terror, which — according to its publisher — “calls for the United States to overthrow the government of Iran, abandon support of a Palestinian state, blockade North Korea, use strong-arm tactics with Syria and China, disregard much of Europe as allies, and sever ties with Saudi Arabia.”
But in a strikingly candid essay on his National Review blog yesterday, Frum all but admits that the U.S. invasion of Iraq has been a failure, and says that the only realistic goal we can hope to achieve is preventing Iraq from becoming a training ground for Al Qaeda — a goal which was already achieved, of course, prior to our invasion:
‘Hands up, everybody who believes that the “hundreds” of troops that the Pentagon plans to move from the rest of Iraq into Baghdad will suffice to secure the capital again…..
Maura for President!
I bet that if you gave it a good shot, you would do better than coming in fifth in the New Hampshire Democratic primary, like the last candidate from Connecticut did…
“They probably read every post and every comment”
All I have to say to Joe’s people is:
Just relax for the next few weeks. No need to work too hard for Joe.
Enjoy all that Connecticut has to offer: the parks, the ocean, the beaches.
Titanyum at 4:42 pm
Dayum, I like the way you think.
Why didn’t I think of that?
Ned’s campaign might not like us to politely tear into this reporter the way we did into Church Lady Brady and WATB Harris, but what do we have to lose?
neurophius - 39
I could tie for third!!!!! :-)
Hi Kirby!
I am getting the same mail. I’m also getting bizarre pro-Lieberman emails full of anti-Lamont garbage. Lieberman’s mailings are just a pack of lies - he & his campaign have absolutely no shame.
I’m seeing lots of Lamont signs up in the Danbury/Bethel area. Have seen NO signs for Lieberman.
And the more I think about Clinton stumping for Lieberman, the more disgusted at Clinton I am.
Gary Hart has another book coming out in September with a framework for the Dem party. He devotes chapters to four Dem presidents who stood for solid Dem values (FDR for the New Deal; Truman for the Truman doctrine and his support of collective bodies such as NATO, SEATO, UN; Kennedy for advancing public service via the Peace Corp, etc. “ask not what your country can do for you…”; and Johnson for voting rights and the war on poverty. He commented that while Carter & Clinton had some positives - they really didn’t stand for profound Democratic values.
And he pointed out that Clinton is hugely at fault for not representing the voice of the Democratic party for the past six years - which has a lot to do with the Democrats appearing splintered and without leadership. Clinton has abdicated his moral authority on issues like the budget, the Iraq war, Katrina, etc. - playing his game of triangulation to benefit Hillary. I hadn’t really thought of it that way, but come to think of it Clinton’s silence and the damage it has caused speaks volumes. Thank God for Al Gore. At least he has felt compelled to honestly articulate outrage over what the Bush admin has done.
Maura ROFL
Dover Bitch 28, oh.my.god. The eagerness of the MSM to cooperate in their own increasing irrelevancy still amazes me.
a system prone to abuse
God I’m sick of this politespeak - how about “a system of deliberate total fucking thievery, coupled with chicanery, horseshit, and an ever-growing catalog of truly bizarre abuses of American citizens’ rights to privacy and free speech and movement. Oh and btw we’re fucked, because this country has been brainwashed into total pussy bedwetterhood.”
Just the old editor in me, I guess.
Sharkbabe!!!
What is Joe’s Take on the Rhythm Method, I wonder?
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People wishing to save embryos may need to rethink rhythm method
The August issue of Harper’s features an excerpt from “The Rhythm Method and Embryonic Death,” by Luc Bovens, published in the June issue of the Journal of Medical Ethics. In this paper, Professor Bovens argues that the rhythm method of birth control–the only method approved by the Catholic church–may be responsible for “massive embryonic death.”
http://www.motherjones.com/moj.....shing.html
Better Link: http://jme.bmjjournals.com/cgi.....l/32/6/355
The rhythm method and embryonic death
L Bovens
Correspondence to:
L Bovens
London School of Economics and Political Science, Department of Philosophy, Logic, and Scientific Method, Houghton Street, London
dab -
I’m glad you’re seeing lots of Lamont signage in your neck of the woods. Here in Stamford (aka Lieberman country) I don’t see many political signs at all, but some houses do have both Malloy and Lieberman signs together. (I imagine these are DTC members and such.) I’ve only seen one Lamont sign. My landlord (that is, my brother, who I affectionately call my slumlord) doesn’t go for political signage so I sadly have none in front of my house.
I like to think Stamford’s an aberration, though, so I’m glad to hear Lamont signs are more prevalent elsewhere in the state.
A realization I had today is that Lieberman, who I never thought much of, has completely destroyed any of his credibility during this campaign. I sure hope Ned wins the primary, because if it comes down to supporting Lieberman I’d imagine it’ll be hard for those who still believe in government. Thankfully I don’t live in Connecticut.
Lieberman should be ashamed, having spent eighteen years in the Senate and accomplishing absolutely nothing except enriching himself and his wife.
“Atilla the Hen” I’m in pun hell.
Have I said how much I am starting to hate the word, “concerned” ??? Lots of “concern” in DC.
Dear Lieber-paign,
Do you have any idea how awful you are? How about a core platform to run on, not from?
Homeland Security Dept. was another bad idea from the start.
One Lieber-apple sure can spoil a lot of American pies.
Belated happy b-day Maura! You are an inspiration and a true citizen soldier of this media-corrupted age. Keep it up and don’t be surprised if you end up drafted someday (for public office that is)
He commented that while Carter & Clinton had some positives - they really didn’t stand for profound Democratic values.
Gary Hart doesn’t consider human rights a Democratic value???????????????????? Or is he still sore because Carter’s VP beat him in 1984?
Hart doesn’t consider health care a Democratic value? ’cause Carter may not have succeeded, but it wasn’t for lack of trying.
I am beginning to remember why I didn’t support Hart in 1984.
neurosweetie!
Hart doesn’t consider health care a Democratic value? ’cause Carter may not have succeeded, but it wasn’t for lack of trying.
should have writting Clinton.
Preview is our friend.
Hmmmm, Maura. Not to be a carpetbaggerista or anything, but if I were you, I’d get to Wisconsin and work for the Russ. Yeah.
And speaking of “Just trust them,” who said “I trust the President”?
America’s newest pop tart…
“Here in Stamford (aka Lieberman country) I don’t see many political signs at all”
Thanks for that Maura, most of us wouldn’t have known that about Stamford, (I didn’t). Every house in Stamford without a sign is another victory for Ned.
Sharkbabe, thanks!!! It’s still my birthday, so it’s not belated yet. :-)
As for being drafted, hey, they just raised the elistment age limit to 42, didn’t they? The way this war is going, I could still get drafted in the real way!
The fact that I’m still eligible for enlistment for another 7 years does make me feel kinda young, I guess. Thanks, Bush’s neocon policies, the fountain of youth that keeps on giving!
Contrary to Lieberman’s assertions, this election is not about whether he has ever supported democratic causes. The bar is not so low that all he has to do is show that in the past he has supported women’s issues, the environment, etc.. Not even Lieberman is claiming that Ned Lamont would fail to support these same policies he is claiming he supports.
What the real issue in this election is is that the country is a fucking mess. Iraq ia a hell-hole, the economy is being bled to death by it, the fiscal irresponsibility of congress is blindly out of control, things like global warming and health care are completely ignored or made worse, education costs keep rising at double digits while congress keeps cutting student aid and taxes for the wealthy.
In other words, people are fed up and they want change. And the big question is will re-electing Joe Lieberman bring about any change, or will it be more of the same? That is what the election should be about.
And on the key issues, Lieberman is for more of the same. On Iraq, he insists everything is going in the right direction. He said on NPR monday evening that if he had to do it all over again, yes he would still support invading Iraq. He insists going to war to remove Saddam was exactly the right thing to do. And he would do it again.
Sure, he now blames Bush for failure in execution and he blames the ‘bad intelligence,’ but he thinks it is how America should be handling the middle east and terrorism, and so voters can cleary expect more of the same from Joe if he is re-elected. He will be there chewering on the invasion of Iran and a reliance on military power to effect policy. Don’t forget he was in support of going after Iraq way back in 1998 urging Clinton to take on Saddam.
And on health care, we know where Joe’s loyalties lie, with the big insurers and HMOs who want to keep milking everybody for huge profits while millions remain un-insured. Just like he helped his supporters get the bankruptcy bill through by voting for cloture.
I could go on from key issue to key issue and show that people want change, but they have no reason to expect if from Lieberman should he get re-elected. It will be more of the same from Joe. He will remain the Republican’s favorite democrat and bush’s staunches supporter, reserving his scorn for the progressive wing of the party, the one’s whose votes he does not even recognize as legitimate.
People want change. They sure as hell are not going to get change from Joe. He’s the patron saint of status quo. And he’s a big part of the reason why the country is in such a mess now. If the election is framed around change and people see that Lamont is the candidate who represents change, and Lieberman represents more of the same, Joe’s past support of democratic issues becomes meaningless. This election is about the futrure.
ccmask, great article - thanks.
ccmask, I really like your 4:56. I cannot understand why NARAL and PP aren’t educating Roman Catholics more about that. A lot of Catholics vote Republican solely because of seriously inaccurate teaching about the biology.
‘that’s my congresswoman up there….jane harman…proud to be a [bomb dropping, death merchant supporting, completely clueless] american!’
What Sharkbabe 4:53 pm said.
I love the word chicanery, it’s a classic that just doesn’t get thrown around enough.
Alice,
He didn’t discount Carter - he simply said he wasn’t a strong president and wasn’t effective, unlike the other four presidents he wrote about. Would you dispute that perspective? In any event, his Air America interview was very compelling.
Sadly, if it wasn’t for “Monkey Business” I think Gary Hart would have won the Dem primary - I wish he had. And his new book sounds compelling.
Hart has been a consistently strong voice since 2000 in opposition to the Bush administration - unlike Clinton.
OT - Steve Clemons is reporting that Dick Durbin sez we are only one vote short of filibuster on Bolton…
The Washington Note
where does Lieberman stand?
I haven’t been here much so don’t know if you’ve seen this.
http://www.pennlive.com/printe.....amp;coll=1
Actually news of the Ana Marie thing doesn’t rot my socks that much, since nothing could be more expected.
(AMC job interview)
Q: are you shallow?
A: fucking absolutely.
Q: are you truly committed to the outside-the-box shallowness that is our organization’s brand, constant aspiration, and future?
A: like I said, dumbass, the fuck yeah. (sharon stone leg-recrossing)
Q: thank you Ms. Cox, we’re impressed. You’ll be hearing from us soon.
Q: are you marginally
damn remnant wordage
db at 5:06, Amen.
Nice catch oldCoastie.
db @ 5:06, bingo. Thanks for saying it out loud.
Hey all — just got home from dinner with Oilfieldguy, Mr. ReddHedd and the peanut. Ate too much, but had a lovely dinner. OFG is such a sweetie, and was good to break bread with him again. :)
What craziness have I missed in my little bit of time away from the keyboard this evening? Bolton decide to withdraw his name from consideration or anything? (As if.)
t’anks, JC - seems like good news…
Sharkbabe on Ann Marie Whateverthefuck. My sides are splitting! Love your snarky do.
CHS, troll free, as far as I know.
Christy! OK, what did OFG eat. And then what did Peanut eat.
Wow. I just got off the phone after a call from a fundraiser for Planned Parenthood. They know I have contributed in the past, and would like me to do so on a more regular basis. I was interested in what she had to say about PP’s current efforts in Congress and in the courts, but I told her I was unwilling to contribute to them at this time because of their endorsement of Lieberman. I gave her a little background on his Alito filibuster vote. It was obvious that she knew what I was talking about, and I suspect she has been hearing it a lot. I told her I would reconsider after the Connecticut primary in the event that PP decides to endorse Lamont and not Lieberman’s independent run. She said she understood, and promised to give the organization feedback on what I said. It was a polite conversation on both sides.
could we just stipulate that sen joe Lieberman,
the bassett hound of the senate,
is a stupid man,
whose mind operates at about the same level as that of the president he so admires?
Ah, Jane, let us hope Ned wins this one, after which you’ll be an even bigger, more powerful Goddess than you already are, and let us remember that the fight will go on, in any case.
The Big Dog carries a lot of weight. Fortunately for us, if Lamont wins, Bill will figure it out, as he is The Great White Shark of American politics. He’ll read the wind, and support the people.
Keep up the most-excellent work, and lose the husband. To me. No way he likes you as much as I do. LOL.
John O
Happy Birthday Maura!
(I’m going to channel you the next time I see George Allen or some other creep who needs to be called to account;) !
Ann the Ass’ freakiness has turned into borderline personality syndrome. This from Raw Story:
Ann Coulter repeated on Hardball her insinuation that Bill Clinton is gay, then went on to joke that “may not be gay but Al Gore a total fag”. She also kept saying that liberalism stood for “sucking the brains out of babies.”
Speaking of boxers, BB gets my 2 cents in response to her response to my letter (bringing my total up to 4 cents I suppose):
I wrote to her before she went to Connecticut. I got the same response that others have posted on FDL. Here’s my follow-up which includes a quote I picked up from MyDD:
Dear Senator Boxer,
Thank you for your response.
I must say it was disheartening to see you describe Senator Lieberman as firmly pro-choice after his unacceptable vote for cloture on the Alito nomination. And while it’s hard for me to judge whether his comment about rape victims walking to another hospital after being denied contraceptives ‘on principle’ was more clueless or heartless, it was clearly wrong and I was disappointed to see you defend and misrepresent what he said.
At this point I just hope Senator Lieberman doesn’t embarrass you further. Here is a piece of an article from Newsday; it refers to Lieberman and John McCain:
‘Though the two seem like they might make a bipartisan dream team in the White House _ should one change parties or both go independent _ the suggestion was greeted only with a laugh. “Every now and again we’re asked that, and McCain always says we couldn’t do it because each of us would want to be vice president,” Lieberman told The Associated Press. “And my presidential campaign days are over _ I hope his aren’t.”‘
” I hope (McCain’s presidential campaign days) aren’t (over)”. That’s a fine bit of friendly chatter from a Democratic Senator about a very conservative and pro war Republican at a time when the Republican congress has abdicated its responsibility to provide a check on a ‘wartime’ president. Lieberman is already blessing a McCain candidacy. Can you be certain that an outright endorsement will not follow? I am not certain at all. It is my hope that if Lieberman gets around to officially endorsing McCain for president he is not at that time a sitting Democratic United States Senator. That alone would be reason to hope his relatively progressive primary opponent wins the nomination.
Sincerely,
Robbie O
Oakland, California
Just trying to keep the pressure on.
As far as I know, Joe’s been in public service his whole working life. That’s an honored, but not (or shouldn’t be) lucrative profession. How, exactly, did he come to be a millionaire?>
orionATL, so stipulated for the last 6 years.
Bob Schieffer’s lead story: the Landis doping scandal. WTF?
Sharkbabe channels Wonkoid! WHOO HOO!
neuro 81 - thanks for sharing and cool on you - God, the words Alito and filibuster just set my blood boiling…
NEDNEDNED
Go Robbie!
The Redds and OFG with peanut - sounds like the title of some classic painting
Countdown: New Democratic slogan is “Six in 06!”
*yawn* I think they need to hire Norskeflamethrower…
meta says
July 27th, 2006 at 5:29 pm
Ann the Ass’ freakiness has turned into borderline personality syndrome. This from Raw Story:
Ann Coulter repeated on Hardball her insinuation that Bill Clinton is gay, then went on to joke that “may not be gay but Al Gore a total fag”. She also kept saying that liberalism stood for “sucking the brains out of babies.”
I am pretty sure her confidence has been shaken and she is now ripping material from Larry the Cable Guy and South Park (that Christopher Reeves episode).
dammit!!! delete my post!
ok gotta go do my 1/2 mile evening run, back in a while
(hey, does my fdl-addicted fat ass make my ass look fat?)
Italics Be Gone!
As President Clinton lost Congress. So much for his coattails. If I were a politician depending on Bill’s coattails, I’d be looking for a safety net. Too bad for Joe, there probably isn’t one for him.
dammit! I am congenitally unable to do tags, and will never attempt it again.
The Boxer Rebellion got the Kiss of Death from Joey Short Ride.
breathe, sherocket - computers suck and are the enemy - love yer name
nah, sherocket - you just gotta remember that back slash at the end…
In bush land the enemy of my friend is my friend.
pheww. Thank you Sharkbabe! Right back at you!
Thank you Old Coastie. I think that after screwing them up a couple of times, I put a jinx on myself from worrying about it too much.
Happy Birthday Maura!
Why is it that everything Joe touches turns to shit? Clinton impeachment, 2000 race, Homeland Security , the War in Iraq, his embarrassing 2004 run, censoring pop culture, and now his own primary race. Quite a record. Why did Bush kiss him, anyway? Look at his ratings since then. I wouldn’t let the man shake my hand. Might rub off.
in 1984, it was a 3-way race in the Democratic Party primaries — Mondale, Jackson and Hart. Gary Hart was running as the conservative Democrat back then in that pack.
I was a fulltime staffer for Jesse Jackson — we won Indianapolis which totally roiled the Democratic Party locally!
Lieberman is just a symptom. The DLC had their feckless annual worry fest this week. Their internet site has a brave statement about the country needing a real, frank, fearless debate about Iraq war policy.
Was there a real debate about Iraq war policy at the DLC small frightedn mammal congregation this week? Not anything I can see. Not a peep about it. They did have a special session worrying about what the Dems might be able to say to LOOK strong on foreign policy. but I can’t see anything in the news or on their internet site that they had the guts to actually have a debate. We’ll keep checking, since this is just to pathetic and I don’t want to believe its true.
Lotta stuff about new college loan programs, inverse-reverse-wonkiful new tax microfixes to help working poor. All wonderful good ideas and I mean that sincerely.
But Lieberman is just a sympton of total lack of leadership on Iraq, or war on terror, or Afghanistan, or Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Middle east oil, on like, all the scary life and death, and economic, stuff. And hundreds of people dying every day, too, by the way.
So, pile on Lieberman good on this issue, and after the primary move on to the next arrogant and/or cowardly target, be it Dem or GOP.
re: my 5:37 p.m.
Just one of many possible slogans for the Democrats in 2006:
“KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…THERE’S A LOTTA FIGHT LEFT IN THE BASTARDS!!”
NorskeFlameThrower, FDL comments, 06/07/06
Damn the Democratic Leadership Council. Who are they leading? And to where… and to what end?
Did anyone else receive the letter from Carville on behalf of the DNC? Talking about how Rethugs are ruining the country, we just gotta take it back.
WTF? His wifey is a sock puppet of the dark overlords - it’s at least as much up to Carville to do something about it as it us up to us. Bastard. I’m going to send him a measured reply, as soon as the steam coming from my ears abates.
Huckermill! Left you a note at the bottome of the Snubbing thread. Where ya been?
dab at 43
I’ve been intrigued and impressed by Hart’s forthright stances more and more. He seems to have changed in the last 15 years. I met him once - years ago - at Warren Beatty’s house and he seemed rather too slick by half for me. Now, standing next to Warren and seeming too slick is quite an accomplishment. I’m not dissing Warren, but, you had to be there, I guess. Nonetheless, he’s right on about Clinton, as well.
Whoo-HOOOOO!
Tx. for the recommendation, JWR, tho’ it warn’t necessary, turns out.
I mighta been livin’ [c’mon, sing along, you know the tune! Puff the magic …] “in the land-a-hy-per-bo-leeeee” when I says my ‘puter is ancient. It’s got Ex-Pee, so I ain’t quite lost in the wilds a MS-DOS or nothin’, but the ol’ Crashway is ’bout a Bush Administration old or so (which is partly how’z'come it just fucking seems like it’s been around for-fucking-forever), but my ‘puter d/l’ed the Adobe Flash gig and it didn’t make no differnce.
But. (On to the Woo-HOOO! part.)
Just started plugging away in my control panel and turned up a “chg. speaker settin’s” and it were the innocuous differnce betwixt the “Line 0 modem” thingamabob to “ESS Allegro” didgeridoo. Weird how some audio played ‘n others didn’t, but there it is.
You-Tube accessible now, I is (tho’ it still takes an eternity to d/l, but still — broadband-less bastards like me what lives out in the sticks ain’t got the luxury a bein’ choosy).
How-do to you, too, MommyB.
You make a body feel most welcome, ‘n I appreciates it, you and the warm hospitality.
At the end of March, Jesse Jackson won the Michigan primary and became neck and neck with Dukakis in delegate count.
Polls show that Dukakis has a better chance at beating the likely republican nominee George Bush than either Jackson or Gore. The poll results show Bush ahead of Dukakis 49% to 43%.
At this point, it seems unlikely that any one candidate will win enough delegates in the primaries to lock up the nomination …
How far we’ve fallen in 20 years. These days, some people call Lieberman a liberal. We’ve become a party of mushy centrism leaning hard right and standing for nearly nothing.
Hi Suzanne. I just got your message, which I’ll pass along. Thanks so much.