No WAY! Lucky I guess.

I’m so astonished to be here in this desert, I can’t think of what to say!

Fitz!

Rootz!!

and TRex for teh win.

so close, yet so far…

So today…
It’s Jane’s B’day
VG returns
Shoogarp takes the plunge
Lotus sparks a joint
Christy says it’s never been her cuppa ;)
Norske is BACK!
John Casper lays out the righteous smackdown…
and I ain’t even caught up all the way yet.

What did I miss?

Whasssaaaabi TRex?

You fellows just crack me up!

You see in the above illustration (spotted in the grocery check-out line by Thers from Whiskey Ashes) what has happened as the result of my losing my temper.

Damn. TRex SMASH!! is something we need to avoid.

Whatever I can do to avoid pissing you off, I’m on it.

Worth remembering: Lieberman endorsed McCain for President- and he calls himself a Democrat?

“Every now and again we’re asked that, and McCain always says we couldn’t do it because each of us would want to be vice president,” Lieberman told The Associated Press. “And my presidential campaign days are over; I hope his aren’t.”

http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..1356/38743

“Oh, shit! Itzhak! Get in here! We gotta problem!”

*ginormous snicker*

TRex !

“Betchoo wish yuh guhlfrinn’ was hot-like-me..”

TRex, after reading all the gruesome news today, all I can say is thank you for making me laugh out loud.

“Vhat? Vhat, Shlomo?

So Israeli’s, when their “translated” into English for blog entertainment purposes, sound like a Yiddishe Mama from the lower East Side?

Maybe I missed it here, but I haven’t seen a front-page post about Colorado’s 4th (The Fighting Fourth!), Dem candidate Angie Paccione and the monster that is Marilyn Musgrave.

Paccione has a real shot at making this district Blue for the first time in decades. There’s a lot to say about Paccione, but I’ll leave that to Howie, who could do a much better job.

In the meantime, allow me to point out a few reasons to care about getting this district back from the clutches of evil.

Mugrave is the person who used Katrina as an excuse to ask Bush to suspend Davis-Bacon and screw the people in NOLA even harder, something she had been trying to do for years.

Mugrave’s the one who introduced the latest failed attempt to write discrimination into the Constitution.

Mugrave’s the one who just introduced a bill which would deny funding for the DOJ if it enforces the law requiring guns to have child safety locks — a requirement reached as a compromise in a 2005 bill that limited gun manufacturer’s liability. The bill passed in the House and awaits a debate in the Senate.

Mugrave helped lead the charge into Terri Shiavo’s hospital room and offered a diagnosis on the floor of Congress.

Musgrave is also the one who illegally posed with uniformed troops at a GOP fundraiser and fabricated a suite in her office in order to send out illegal campaign ads.

Musgrave has taken money from oil companies and then turned around and help get those multi-billion dollar subsidies for big oil. She’s taken money from Tom DeLay’s PAC and defended him. She’s in league with the crew who brought us sweatshop labor and forced abortions in Marianas, despite being a member of the “Christian” Coalition.

I’d love to see something from Howie on Paccione.

So Israeli’s, when their “translated” into English for blog entertainment purposes, sound like a Yiddishe Mama from the lower East Side?

With a dash of Mel Brooks, of course.

EPU,

‘EAR.

Pamela Atlas?

Color me skeptical. Pamela Mongoloid, maybe.

TRex- you are so funny… and talented… and mmm… different (????)!!!!

Sclomo’s a real person who worked for the Israeli Department of Defense. People are really named Schlomo.

http://www.israelvalley.com/ar…..o-dror-dod

The person who’s actually in TRex’s skit might really be named Sclomo.

T- at 8:18 pm – John Casper lays out the righteous smackdown..

I Concur. That was a doozy.

… although I can’t type Schlomo.

TRex,

I really do think you should be a “concerned” friend and blogger about all this and make sure that Pammykins gets a copy or link to your post.

She’s probably really, really bummed out right now, and I’m sure your words would help reduce the size of that hangover!

Another Ta for TRex!

Just off the phone from Germany:

“We are seeing and treating Lebanese civilians and sending many to BAMC burn unit (Texas)” CCAT missions to Lebanon.

This fucking bullshit has to stop.

Hello, M, and welcome to fdl. Nice to see you here. Have we met?

That’s not the lower East Side (at least not anymore), it’s Brooklyn/Queens/LawnGuyland.

TRex–

Redheads of the world unite!

Responding to your question on an earlier thread about object lust:

Shoes. High heels. Colored shoes. It all goes back to having to wear corrective and very ugly brown shoes to kindergarten when all the other girls had saddle shoes…tears… I keep the shoe collection out where I can see them. Shiny ones the best, reminding me that I am in fact a princess awaiting her knight.

Evening bags. A large collection which does see some use but is basically for ego. I was able to provide last minute purses for: the bride, her sister, my mother, and one other relative. One girl in the sixth grade had a purse for every day of the month. Not that we remember/envy [cough]. She moved to Nicaragua and married a Sandinista. I stayed here and developed a collection of beautiful evening bags. Well fate is fickle and all that.

Dear Israel-

We need to talk.

I was already howlin’

Think someone could put her on a camel and sneak her through the Egyptian border? Such restraint Mr. TRex. Wolcott may be sorely tempted anyway.

T at 5

You might look for at least five awesome entries from Mary. I’m starting a ‘clipboard’ file with her stuff. Emailed some Mary from yesterday to my niece, a public HS History/SocStud teacher. Says her kids from last yr hated Bush and the war. Hope Mary doesn’t mind others ’sharing’ her material (I use proper attribution, praise.) My niece, a bright and beautiful woman, and a caring teacher (rookie last year, soo….) is more politically aware/astute than I knew. Sent her some Mary for encouragement.
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Local TV ads Ned: attacks Lieberman record on a host of issues, ending w/universal health coverage “He NEVER worked for universal health care.”

Joe: Has Dodd go to bat. Basically rehash Bill’s stroking yesterday. “Good man, good Senator, good Dem”

Been said earlier, and a lot, but…
Welcome back M/VG!

This is the part of the story we are not being told:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..ch=chomsky

Hey, HSAT, glad you had a phone call tonight. Every little bit helps. Sorry to hear this wider war is in the doc’s workplace.

Whoa.
Letterman just smacked Joe. “Clinton whips crowd into a frenzy. Lieberman comes on whips them into a coma.”

Wolcott
Jane
TRex

Updating my list of who not to get pissed off at me.

Hope 22

What’s CCAT?

Critical Care ? ?

Cosmo at 8 – excellent point that hasn’t been talked about enough on the internets or by the Lamont campaign: Lieberman endorsed McCain for president! And if you look at the same interview I think you get an example of Lieberman drooling at the prospect of a preemptive strike on Iraq.

It all goes back to having to wear corrective and very ugly brown shoes to kindergarten

OMG!! I had to wear those too!

One day at kindergarten, I took mine off and threw them over the playground fence and into a field. Then I took my brother’s and threw them into the field, too, so they couldn’t put them on me.

All they ever found was one of my brother’s lost pair. Mine were never seen again.

I was four. I was pissed. And I wasn’t going to take it anymore.

Teddy,

M is VG

xyz 34

“And if you look at the same interview I think you get an example of Lieberman drooling at the prospect of a preemptive strike on Iraq.”

Stephanie Miller is tawkin’ ’bout all those neocons having WARGASMS.

Teddy had those shoes, too, and can’t imagine they were still around fifteen years from the time I was four and rebelled against them and when you did, TRex!

Sometimes you only learn what you have in common with people when…. Pam brings you together! Thanks, TRex, for the memory.

TRex–

[egr]It all goes back to having to wear corrective and very ugly brown shoes to kindergarten

OMG!! I had to wear those too!

That explains why I couldn’t find them on alternate days.

Stephanie Miller is tawkin’ ’bout all those neocons having WARGASMS.

It may be suppressive and glib to say it, but I tuned in for momma; I stayed for voice monkey.

Who is this VG — or M — you speak of? Has she revealed herself, or is it just you chatelaines who reveal her new identity?

{{{ said the gay duke as he passed the joint to lotus }}}}

TRex:

I was four. I was pissed. And I wasn’t going to take it anymore.

Well that explains a lot don’t you think? :D

Thanks, Hope– I saw this @ Democracy Now and it is good to see it get out there.

Good evening. I have never, ever read her vlog and do not intend to. But thanks for the update on her, uh, nontravels.

OT, I am not going to be able to sleep tonight. I am on a diet. yup. And it has been going pretty well but tonight all I can think about is a bag of chips and French onion dip. I see see it, I can taste it, I can even smell the stuff. sorry, just personal trevails irking me right now.

For tonight I will not think about the terrible happenings in our world and work on what I can change here.

HSAT, glad you heard from germany. Just to hear his voice I know means a lot. thinking of you and sending good thoughts your way.

Now CNN is showing actual war footage from IRAQ. Holy Jeebus, I think the media is breakin free folks.

Shlomo responds to TRex!:

Click me or I may feel a little verklempt!

Well that explains a lot don’t you think? :D

I’ve never looked back.

Spokane Moderate 40

Oh, me too! Jim is a god.

But I do marvel at Steph’s ability to be so nice to crackpot callers. I want to jump through the radio and throttle them.

I was SO looking forward to PamMylar’s visit to the Holy City, stumbling on the cobbles wearing “cockroach killers” and her Elvira outfit…

PAM VLOG: “I’m here today in Mia Sharim–That’s MEE-yah Sha-REEM–which is, like, an exclusive gated community like in El-LAY and WEST-CHEST-ter –in Old Je-ROO-sa-LEM. And–Oh f88k! I chipped a nail! Maybe this old man with the hat knows where I can find a RITE AID.”

[PAM WALKS OVER, CLEAVAGE BOUNCING] “Excuse me. Can you tell me if there’s a RITE AID here?”

[HASSID RECOILS IN HORROR; MUMBLES SOMETHING UNINTELLIGIBLE]

“Well! Those foreigners are SO RUDE!”

Teddy, TRex, und moi [not moi the poster, me*, egr] *not me3, and not me to me :)

Corrective shoe wearers of the universe, unite!
You have nothing to lose but your ugly shoes!

Teddy, surely you are joshing us. No, not Josh Marshall. Our own Valley Girl, who served bravely under difficult conditions and who left in pain, has been posting as M until today, when a false “ValleyGirl” posted and we all exploded with welcome greetings. M then outed herself and said she was our VG, but the other one was an impostor. A strange story with a happy ending.

FDL Latenight: A TRex Joint.

Just one typo: the location is “lawn gisland”.
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M/VG – If ya still have visually impaired ‘Bat 21′? addy…
http://www.boston.com/news/glo…..the_light/
—
tommorow never knows…
(sleep calls)

“Well! Those foreigners are SO RUDE!”

“…stoopitt anti-Semite” she mutters as the Hasid walks away.

GrandmaJ–

YOU CAN DO IT!!! We are rooting for you. Keep us posted.

Thank you all so much. You always buck me up. Sorry to ‘go off’ in the previous comment. I’m so angry I could spit nails.

CCAT= Critical Care Air Transport team

I feel angry and powerless. Terrible feeling.

But I do marvel at Steph’s ability to be so nice to crackpot callers. I want to jump through the radio and throttle them.

Agreed. I imagine you’ve got to have amazingly thick skin to do what she does. I teach, and I think I have thick skin. But I’m not sure I could keep my cool with talk radio callers.

There’s a story on the wires entitled “Fury at ‘deliberate’ bombing claim.” Annan’s taking heat for his remarks. Thought I’d point to this BBC story, which was the first I read on the incident. I’d rather it not, but it kinda sorta looks like it was deliberate to me.

Blank Kludge-Yes, always Mary…and Angie.
I was just hitting the stuff I didn’t have to think about…had a little grape juice w/ dinner ya know.

And TRex, this is a masterpiece.
Funny. As. Shit.
Oh yeah, Joined GA Roots. Hope to shake your hand soon.
Barukh atah Adonai, Elohaynu, melekh ha-olam.
(been to a few bar mitzvahs in my day)

Later on, ya’ll.

“But I’m not sure I could keep my cool with talk radio callers.”

Talk radio callers (and hosts for that matter) sometimes make me feel ashamed of being a carbon-based life form.

Hey, TRex, I just had to dig out this 12/25/05 comment by VG in response to a post by Jane:

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Jane, thanks for a look at how the “other half lives”– I mean, those conservative diva blogresses like “Pamela”!

She says “Wild man Dan over at the Gay Patriot advises me that after closing nominations for “conservative blogress diva,” which in his definition is a strong, talented woman blogger who commands the respect of men, that I am nominated blogress. Rooaaaaaar!.”

Geez, I guess all those boobs help her keep abreast of all of the ins and outs of the movement, and those pearly whites just say “bite me with the best news you’ve got”. Can I say something really really rude here? Just as an indulgence to cast off the fetters of polite public commentary for just once this year? Okay, I won’t wait for the okay. Gotta say it. The diva bimbo looks like she’s all crotch, and legless to boot. ;)

—

Can it be? Pammykins and Katherine Harris were identical twins separated at birth? OMG!

So much for nuture over nature. *g*

BK- I will try to find Bat’s addy and send the link to him. M/VG

egregious

“I keep the shoe collection out where I can see them. Shiny ones the best, reminding me that I am in fact a princess awaiting her knight.”

I certainly hope you aren’t waiting for SIR GALAHAD to show up…

OH. My. God.

ROFLMAOSMB* SMB!!!! NOOooo.

*smb=Spill My Beer.

Good one M.

M
Saw the headline and he immediately popped into my vision.

JWR – looks pretty deliberate all right – especially considering that other UN staff have been killed and injured, as well as direct hits on Red Cross vehicles.

My guess is that when you take out observers, it suggests that you would prefer not to be observed. Also seems a comment on the proposed peace-keepers (or whatever) being proposed for southern Lebanon.

US President George W. Bush said after talks in Washington with Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki that additional US troops would deploy to Baghdad from other parts of Iraq over the coming weeks.

http://www.news.com.au/dailyte…..02,00.html

Even under the best of circumstances this would be a clumsy and artless bit of sarcasm. Under the circumstances we find oursevles in, it’s actually kind of gross.

Thanks BK- I really did spend a lot of time checking out her pix and following the links way back then…

According to Juan Cole (top couple of posts), Israel’s military command is not running very smoothly and the war planning was far too optimistic. Seems they underestimated fighting an enemy on their home turf. The Israelis were probably told to expect chocolates and flowers thrown at them, too.

M-
Soy milk meets nostrils!

TRex#50: Perfecto!

Talk radio callers (and hosts for that matter) sometimes make me feel ashamed of being a carbon-based life form.

If it’s any comfort, there are people like that in just about every walk of life. Hell, click on that Atlas Shrugs latest vlog post. Dat bitch crazy.

Hope at 53–

Rants about terrible things happening are automatically on topic. Extra bonus points if you can work in the word egregious :)

We are always eager to hear your unique perspective.

Rant away, my dear. Hope you will be seeing him soon, for your sake and his.

JERUSALEM, July 25 — Almost two weeks into its military assault on Hezbollah, Israel said Tuesday that it would occupy a strip inside southern Lebanon with ground troops until an international force could take its place. …
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07…..r=homepage

neurophius

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH

Thank you T and Sharkbabe from the balloon thread. :>)

TRex– you are very funny. I love the “we need to talk” on so many levels! Thank you.

Yeah, if war’s made upon the peacekeepers, who is left to keep the peace?

T -

Ha motzi lexhim min ha’aretz.

JWR – acc to report on cnn, Israeli bombs (air not land, so def. not Hizbollah) had almost hit the UN position 14 times today, UN general was on the phone all day to Israelis telling them to be more careful so it’s not surprising that Kofi Annan would consider this a purposeful attack.

Of course, we have Dems and Repubs on Larry King talking about how outrageous of Kofi to say such a thing since we “know” that Israel would “never” target them.

just like I heard a british commander on the Beeb while I was in the UK, say of a air attack on a school in Afghanistan “since we never use disproportionate force, we know that this was not disproportionate”

Orwell would be so very proud.

HSAT

We are so with You. I’m praying that ‘06 will get us “U.S.” back on track, and it will. Hang in there. We’re with Ya girl.

On Countdown, bush is appearing with Maliki to announce his first “joint solution” to the violence…

George: “Maliki: ‘EAR!”

Sad note from Sidon, Lebanon. A Canadian injured in a Israeli strike last week is expected to recover. He has yet to be told he lost seven members of his family in the strike.

Oh, Hope, my thoughts are with you. We are all angry and powerless. What stupidity is being served up in Lebanon. It’s hard to believe. I pray for your guy, and for the hapless civilians he’s bringing to Texas. NPR did an incredible piece on the military burn unit there a couple of days ago. It made me cry.

Occupation is a bi-atch and just plain wrong and an international force will be doomed according to many of those knowledgeable of the situation. It ain’t got no swing until the parties TALK.

George: “Maliki: ‘EAR!”

Still laughing.

Great writing Trex!

Email question to the Larry King show tonite: Why does US subsidize Lebannon 30 Million and sell weapons to Israel at the same time?

Personally, my first reaction when she canceled her trip was to doubt that it had ever existed. All the “interviews and meetings” stuff sounded like delusions of grandeur, and “the Israelis told me not to come over” was just way too pat.

So Israel’s answer may be “Hey, don’t blame me! You’re the one who believed that meshugeneh!”

BTW, I am following the more serious news. It is heartbreaking.

I was gonna go to Israel too but Dkos said no, my little lamb.

Susan @ 82

We are so angry and POWERFUL

And we are showing it in CT Lamont

look folks, i feel for all victims i am a mother too, but israelis are dying too! War sucks. IMO the israelis had to act. the us was to busy, the lebanese ignored it. Say what you want about israel and schlomo and yitchak, but sometimes you have to act in way people in ME society understand and that unfortunatly is in military terms.

Chris Cillizza chatz on WaPoO tomorrow at 11 eastern, questions accepted now:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01123.html

At Noon eastern, Dan Balz chatz about the Bellwether Project, the new “meta” coverage of the 2006 midterms:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00508.html

Question are accepted now, beat the Consultant Timezone by submitting yours the evening beforehand!

siun and jlr – From that BBC story I linked above: “A rescue team was also shelled as it tried to clear the rubble.”

This, from Reuters, seems to confirm: ICH.

Susan at 82

I wish he was bringing them to Texas. He’s in Germany, flying every other day to Iraq, but the last two days the flights have have been to Lebanon, then back to Germany. From Germany to Texas is a different unit. But I’m glad that these poor people are going to BAMC. It is one of the finest burn units in the country. I pray for them all. I’m crying right now as I type this. I hate this murderous crew in Washington more than I can say.

whoa, lo.

“but sometimes you have to act in way people in ME society understand and that unfortunatly is in military terms.”

Sometimes we and Israel could talk to others. ME society does not only do war– they lived in peace for a long, long, long time.

just my opinion, of course.

lo at 90

Check my link at 29

Sorry, but I don’t buy the “Israelis had to act” opinion. This is not the first time that Israeli forces have targeted Lebanon in the past several decades. Peace-making has not been an option for the hard liners in Israel, and I (get on my foil hat) suspect that this was why Rabin was assassinated, way back when.

angie -i don’t recall there ever being a long long peace post 1948 and israeli independence

Rassmussen says Bush’s approval dropped 5 points overnight:

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/008288.php

Billmon is a dose of reality, in a surreal world:

http://billmon.org/

lo 97 – and isn’t that a coincidence.

I seriously doubt the Secretary General of the United Nations would recklessly hurl allegations of intentional targetting of UN personnel. Kofi Annan does not engage in cowboy diplomacy.

(By the way, does anyone refer to Annan as “general”? Shouldn’t they, to be consistent?)

M i know it appears that israelis are “hard liners” but do you remember how you felt after 9/11 and what is was like to live in a constant state of fear. Israelis have lived that way since the begining day in day out. now, this doesn’t mean they can wage war with whomever they want whenever, but they do have some validity here.

HopeSAT 53

“CCAT= Critical Care Air Transport team”

Thanks.

“I feel angry and powerless. Terrible feeling.”

It is awful. I read today that the bombs we are sending Israel have depleted uranium. It is almost too much to bear.

lo –

Making peace with your enemies is also action — and to act in that way takes more courage than dropping bombs on civilians.

lo

in case you were unaware, Late Nite is where we get to have a little fun in SPITE of all the bad news of the day. it is a way of keeping sane for many of us here who are on bad news overload.

lo says:

“this doesn’t mean they can wage war with whomever they want whenever, but they do have some validity here.”

Sure, they have some validity…they were attacked by terrorists, and have a right to respond. But the disproportionate response–the killing of women and children, the bombing of hospitals, the wrecking of Lebanon’s infrastructure, the murder of UN peacekeepers–validity will only get you so far before it begins to wear thin.

Hi, M (VG)! Missed you, and missed the birthday party today. Happy B-day, Jane. TRex, you going out for food pretty soon?

I listened to NPR the other day when they were recording a 7year old Lebanese girl screaming in pain in the background–she lost two toes, and her whole body was pocked with schrapnel. I had to turn the radio off because I could only hear my own children screaming.

This morning I turned the radio off again because I couldn’t bear listening to Condi talking, as my grandmother would say, “like a sausage.” Another failed secret mystery tour. Why do they keep sending her anywhere?

btw, welcome back, M {the real Valley Girl} hope you find it hospitable here this time.

TeddySanFran

… although I can’t type Schlomo.

’sokay – I can’t type in fast forward, so that evens it out

Hope at 93.

I’m with you on the DC crowd. It’s been a long time (Richard Nixon) since a president could cause that kind of negative focused emotion in me. Stephanie Miller keeps claiming that she hates The Policies not The People. That was me, through Reagan, Bush I, but now I just hate the people. What they have done is just unforgiveable. I don’t know how you can get up in the morning and watch yourself shaving when people are dying for the lies you told.

The problem is the Prez and his gang of thugs, not the average conservative who lives down the block from me, or from you. This President has a lot to answer for, in the next life, if not in this one.

I think that one consequence of the election this fall is that people who support folks in the military are going to get elected. And it won’t be just John Kerry and a few others on both sides of the aisle who advocate for people like Mr. HSAT. He needs to know he is appreciated, and I think the next Congress will give him more of that feeling.

why are you all so quick to say israel doesn’t want peace??
what makes you think hamas, hezbollah or iran/syria want peace?

notice the huge difference in strategies-
israel targeting hezbolla strong points and yes many innocent lebanese in the cross fire. this is a terrible part of any war but

hezbollah targetting anything anywhere in israel just to destroy its people. there is a difference

No, there has not been peace between Israel and her neighbors since on or around 1948. Major wars on the continent were the result of colonialism and imperialism imposed by the West. (the Crusades did not help much either– but that is even older history)

9/11 was awful and it hurt, but it in no way excuses wanton violence and disregard for international law on our part. I am more afraid of our relinquishing our country to that path than anything else.

Perhaps we could ignore certain persons and return to our previously scheduled late night thread?

Maybe we could listen to a pretty song from the Roches?
http://www.kurtzman.com/I Gave My Love a Kerry.mp3

neurophius- thanks- It is a relief not be moderating comments- I had to pay attention to all of the bad stuff, the ugly and trivial comments, and really didn’t have time to engage in “normal” conversation. It did get to me after months and months of moderating 6-8 hours a day. And, it does seem on the whole that commenters (no one in particular) are now mostly back to being their usual thoughtful and civil selves. But, maybe that’s because I don’t look to see what spam and ugly comments have been culled by the moderators. Let me add that moderating is a tough job, and it does seem that folks do realize this now, a bit more than before. Kudos to the present mods!!!

ok suzanne #103 i can take a hint.
trex’s post was pretty funny. you can return to snark and wit, but just for the record it was others here that turned to convo to todays news not just the new kid on the block.

linkie didn’t work, Whig-guy

jlr says,

“Perhaps we could ignore certain persons and return to our previously scheduled late night thread?”

Oh, yeah.

Yo, TRex. When you gonna tell us who the “Ten Most Popular People In Heaven” are?

Or do we have to guess?

M/VG
nice to see ya here again no matter what name you use

Copy and paste. Please.

egregious …when a false “ValleyGirl” posted and we all exploded with welcome greetings. M then outed herself and said she was our VG, but the other one was an impostor. A strange story with a happy ending.

to clarify with my take on it: I surmise that the “new” ValleyGirl is a new poster and had no idea what she was walking into; she was probably scared away by the torrent of “welcome backs” and subsequent confusion (put yourself in that situation). Some suggested that she modify her moniker to avoid ongoing confusion.

jlr 112
We usually wander back.
But this is a community, and sometimes advice or support is asked for. And that’s ok.

Again:
http://www.kurtzman.com/I Gave My Love a Kerry.mp3

Blank Kludge, I have a little email-to-me file of Mary’s law stuff. It’s so cool to be able to use it (correctly I do hope) in slapping down wingnut talking points.

The destruction of civilians (children, women, pregnant women, hospital patients, hospital care givers) is not only ‘wearing thin’ but it specifically happens to violate several of the Geneva Conventions. Please read the various convention agreements at your pace/leisure.

http://www.genevaconventions.org/

OK. I can’t get it to post properly. You can cut and paste the whole line and it will work though. It is worth a listen.
http://www.kurtzman.com/I Gave My Love a Kerry.mp3

modify her moniker to monika?

Susan – absolutely agree – was not referring to conversations with dear Hope etc.

lo at 109:

“hezbollah targetting anything anywhere in israel just to destroy its people. there is a difference:

Yup, in this, you’re absolutely right.

But…(you kinda knew a but was coming), I think we all expect better out of the “adult” in this relationship (i.e. Israel).

And now that I think about that statement I just made, the other side of that very coin is that somehow we don’t have those same high expectations for the folks on the other side.

Kinda disappointing to think that too. :-(

i sense a little “chill” in the air. reminds me of my high school days and not being in the in crowd. too painful to go back.
Peace out.

whigguy 122

doesn’t work

copied and pasted whole last line of Whig guy’s post and it worked. Cute little song.

I can’t get the post to work properly. If you copy and paste the whole line it works. Below are the lyrics. It is a beautiful song that you just have to ask yourself “what if”?……..

I Gave My Love a Kerry Who Had No Disdain
For Peoples Of The Country From Which He Came
America The Beautiful He Fought In Your Name
And Not For The Halliburton Company’s Gain

America The Beautiful I Grew Up Inside You
To Hear My Teachers Say Democracy Was Good And True
In Other Places There Was Nothing That A Soul Could Do
To Fight The Dark Oppression Of Their Leaders’ Bloody Coup

I Never Thought That I Would See A Coup In My Homeland
But That Is What Happened And I Think You Understand
That We Are In A Crisis And We Need Every Woman And Man
To Win Back Our America It’s Time To Take A Stand

Let’s Give Ourselves A President Who Has No Ties
To Those Who Would Use Jesus’ Words To Tell Big Lies
About The Moral High Road And Justice In The Skies
While Turning Their Backs On Suffering And Other Peoples’ Cries

How Can There Be A President Who Has No Ties
To Those Who Would Use Jesus’ Words To Tell Big Lies
If You Think You Can’t See Clearly And That You Must Compromise
There’s Strength In Our Number And Here’s What That Buys

I’m Givin’ My Love A Present And That’s My Vote
If Everyone Would Do This It Would Be An Antidote
To The Vicious Wolf That’s Hiding In A Sheep’s Expensive Coat
Republican And Democrat We’re All In The Same Boat

So Cast Your Vote For Kerry In The Autumn Of This Year
And Let’s Not Trade Our Liberties For Freedom From Our Fear
The Enemy That We Perceive Is Not Out There He’s Here
But You Are Stronger Than You Think, America, My Dear
You Are Stronger Thank You Think, America, My Dear

whigguy:

unsolicited suggestion for a future sign-off:

“whig, out”

Coool.

I didn’t say that new VG was an imposter, BTW, I just said that she was not the VG of former times. I mean, like, ya know, there are prolly, like, hundreds of thousands of Valley Girls. I mean, like, at least 2 others that I know personally, as they are my sibs. Oh, geez, I better check that out… maybe that was my D sister (not likely my R sister)….

When I absolutely have to pick myself up I remember these lyrics:

So Cast Your Vote For Kerry In The Autumn Of This Year
And Let’s Not Trade Our Liberties For Freedom From Our Fear
The Enemy That We Perceive Is Not Out There He’s Here
But You Are Stronger Than You Think, America, My Dear
You Are Stronger Thank You Think, America, My Dear.

Amen.

Thank you for that, whig-guy.

Can I get a hell yea? Haaa.

Susan at 109

Thank you. And I agree. I’m volunteeting for John Courage here in texass even tho I’m a CA absentee voter. He’s a vet and seems to be a good guy. Linky for anyone that wants to check him out:

http://www.courageforcongress.org/home/

Oh and Susan, it’s “Dr. HopeSAT”…lol

He’s earned it.

M – I didn’t say that new VG was an imposter, BTW…

understood. I think others may have inferred that she was, however

(and one more time – welcome back! thought you were a gonner…)

Okay, I think I need a name like all the cool kids have – too many Js and Rs and such – I’m feeling so… generic. And perhaps I can add to the confusion.

I’m thinking Badger.

Or Fern.

Unless you have a better idea.

I honestly think that this song could be tweeked and put to good use this election cycle?

whig guy– played that song over and over while working on the Kerry campaign and I still think of it– that last stanza certainly captures my hope for the future.

jlr – Fern ‘uff, if you promise not to Badger us

Ferns? With fronds like that, who needs anemones?

Angie:
I often wondered if anybody was aware of the song?

I don’t think lo has look at the video I posted. You can lead a horse to water…

I am opinionated but more than Imy opinions I value truth.

Janet’s Fern?

shorter HopeSAT: “lo, behold”

I would be a fiddlehead if I were a fern.

It was pretty popular up here in NH/MA, whig-guy.

What a day to have to actually earn a living. I missed Jane’s b-day, Spazeboy’s appearance in front of the camera, M’s return…and I still need to catch up on some great threads.

To compensate for my lack of fun today, I’ll have the pleasure Wednesday evening to join Shoephone, Oscarsmom, and the great Edward Teller for dinner.

Any mossbacks who’d like to join us around 7:00 in Fremont can reach me through the WA pages at the Roots Project, or leave a comment and I’ll get a message to you.

Here’s birthday wishes for Jane and extra special greetings to M.

LOL Dana. There can’t be too many punsters around here, in my opinion.
M, so glad you’re back!

punaise at 132

this chuckle feels good…lol thanks

jlr:

You must go to badgerbadberbadger.com.

RGB- oh, wow, that sounds like a great dinner treat!

“I voted for Taft. The Whigs are making a come-back” 900 year-old lady poll worker.

-Kathleen Madigan

M—you’ve been missed. Wish you could join us.

Angie:
I have this wierd old fashioned idea that art still matters. I can’t help but to think that this song’s llack of traction has a whole lot to do with the over all general suppression of all things “liberal”.

oops- “RBG” — and I hope you have been properly thanked for closing out all of those threads where the spammers and trolls like to hang out! If not, I say so!

Color me conspiratorial.

I’m rather frond of ferns

You could be right, whig-guy and how sad is that– liberal arts vs ? ?

The Roche Sisters are so utterly talented and rich. Love them and their fascinating range and lyrics and voices.

M is VG? Hi M. I was worried about not seeing you here. I know that I had become one of those ugly commenters for a couple of evenings awhile back and made some grief for you. Hope you saw my apology. Glad that you are still here. Started my own blog and webpage where I could get constructive (as possible) when the news got too much for me.

I had a friend once who was fond of ferns.

OnT: Last week, there was a Countdown segment about some of the news we’ve missed because of the Regional War in the Middle East, and I think there’s been a lot of WEATHER news that’s been rather conveniently drowned out. For instance, did you know that 29 people have died in the Central Valley in California this week due to heat? And that the California power generators admitted yesterday that their predictions of the current populations’s power demands were SIX years off?

Record gas and oil prices as well, but the Dow Jones is poised to break 11,000 for — what, about the 23rd time in W’s Presidency? Oh, and Cheney admitted this new War’s good for the GOP, but maybe that NEVER would have been covered as news….

=========
Had Enough?
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Poetic Justice Theatre –

Okay, it’s fern.

Signed,
the poster previously known as jlr.

Good Gully, Ms. Fern!

Wesgpc etc./ formerly Wesgpc/ formerly anon1/ formerly anon/ ???? Is that correct? I did not see that, but Punaise relayed the message to me. And, I knew that you were sincere, and also sincerely distressed at the time. It’s great that you have your own blog- I will go check it out. Do you remember Christy’s post a while back “Why I Blog”- same sentiments.

About 150,000 customers of the DEREGULATED Ameren UE power company have been without power for almost 1 week here in the ‘lou.

And baby it’s hot out here.

I’m still coveting air conditioners (sorry TRex). Never had the need for one up here before. However, come December, it will be my xmas present to myself. Thanks, TRex, for your suggestion last night.

jlr- I do like “Fern” a lot!!

Oh, yay, it’s fern. Badger is a special name in our house, and I was afraid to influence your vote, but I am glad you chose Fern. Pretty, and not confusing to Teddy!

hello, there M

The night of the storm the temperature without A.C. was a cool 90. It went up after that.

A friend’s mom who grew a lot of flowers visited the home of an acquaintance who was mad for ferns, and declared, “with fronds like these, who needs anemones?”

I have a frond in Fond du Lac who’s fond of ferns.

TSF–I never followed the daily stock market news until the past two years. Does anybody talk about how the DJ just hangs out around 11,000, dips, then goes back to 11,000? It’s just been stuck there like Bush in a frond of fernation.

M #169: It’s a boring wonky blog, but take a look if you’d like. I have a strange notions of how to sublimate political rage. But it ties in with the lesson of everything that I see thses days: “BushCo Out!” Wel, Ok, 90% of what I see these days, but that’s enough.

I’m very very glad to hear from you.

Fern – you’re so badger good. :~)

My central AC is broken, and I don’t have the $$ to fix right now. But, it’s hot here too. I have this little plastic spray bottle (filled with water) that I use to spritz myself. It does work…

Ferns are cool. Ferns make the Coast Redwoods totally cool. What happened to fern bars. I remember hearing about them when I was a kid but by the time I was old enough to get drunk in one, they weren’t there anymore.

My sister’s middle name is Fern.

spritz!

and there’s a “Fitz” for the heat wave….

M, you are in Southern California? Good luck. Hope this season’s heat comes in like tiger and goes out like a lamb.

Byrds a ‘twittering,

To everything – fern, fern, fern
There is a season – fern, fern, fern
And a time for every purpose under heaven.

anon1- doesn’t look wonky, looks bloggy. Tho I haven’t really had the time to read it seriously. And, again, I was serious in referencing Christy’s post.

I’m still coveting air conditioners (sorry TRex). Never had the need for one up here before. However, come December, it will be my xmas present to myself. Thanks, TRex, for your suggestion last night.

There’s just nothing better than cool, crisp sheets in the summer. Trying to sleep without air conditioning when it’s hot is, well, impossible, really.

M, but I hope if the heat goes out like a lamb, it isn’t one of those rabid venomous ones. with wings.

M, the fine ladies here have inspired a lot of us to become bloggers. My voice is silent no more.

You guys are sweet. I was Badger on a forum once, and I got kinda … snappish.

Rick Redfern

Suzanne- been to busy of late to be spending much time on the internet… but could you post the link to your blog? If I remember correctly, you are in BC and either have as part of your blog, or have linked, the bird feeder. The first time I drove on Hwy 9 and saw the redwoods… first time in heaven. Now that is going to sound totally stupid if you are some other “Suzanne”…

Fernando

Why, twoton, that’s a swell blog you’ve got there! I always forget the underline-y folks’ names have blogs. I must remember to check them out more, I sure liked yours!

I can’t imagine how you people are coping in that heat without air conditioners. I lived in a place once – southwest exposure and not enough windows that opened – it didn’t cool off at night. I got so sleep deprived I started to halucinate. Scary.

You guys, this pun-ishment is in-fern-al.

Do you hear the drums?

Suzanne- sorry for being clueless- I see that it (your blog) is linked with your name… duh…

TRex, maybe just an inferntesimal pun-ishment. Should we “leave” it for now?

Suzanne- 107?!!!! I don’t remember it being like that when I was there!!!!

Hope, and having paid off those pesky student loans, I heart that. If he’s ferrying wounded from Iraq he’s earned Dr. Kiss My, er, Ring.

Off to bed. Big thunderstorms in Central Time tonight.

Ferns are a pleasant topic for a hot and dry Summer Late Nite. I have had the pleasure of friendship with two Ferns. My favorite wild fern in these parts..Maidenhair and in Nursery Rabbits Foot. Suzanne, what do you call the giant ferns in redwood forests?

Maybe someone could furn-ish us with some new material?

Dana! I was just thinking about you. I got that same crusty semolina bread with sesame seeds, which toasts up delciously.

How was your dinner?

it’s hot as a fernace

Maybe if I leave, this will stop.

But before I do, I have some dining advice based on recent personal experience – drink the wine first THEN eat the ice cream.

Maybe someone could furn-ish us with some new material?

yeah – time to branch out

“you put the lime in the coconut, drink it all up”

spore me the details.

Damn! I wondered if you went out while I was preoccupied. I’ve had a terrible cold and can’t taste a thing so I didn’t even try to place an order tonight. That bread is my favorite–esp. toasted. Last week in your honor, I bought several kinds of Greek olives from the Wine Cellar. The big ones stuffed with crunchy garlic are my favorites.

Well leaf me out of it.

angie – botany vowels lately?

Botany Spears

The last summer I didn’t have an air conditioner was 1993. I remember I was sitting very still in my house at midday, reading, desperately trying to stay cool. I turned a page…and broke a sweat.

I went to Sears and wrote a bad check for an air conditioner that day.

One thing I had done earlier that summer was to pick a spot in the house I was going to be and lay down a towel. Then I’d run a cool bath and throw some peppermint tea bags in the water.

I’d go lay in the water until I was good and cool and then go back and sit on the towel, usually under a fan, until I got too hot again. Then, I’d go back and lay down in the tub and repeat.

It sort of worked, but the A/C unit, when I got it home, was a Gift from the Gods.

lichen some new material? sorry to deep in the roots project to help out.)

On that note, punaise, I can laugh myself up to bed! g’nite, fronds!

No but I wish I had some Sarah Vowells……

spore me the details.

OH!!!

Nice one, angie.

I worked for many years at st.louis Public schools. You had to sit up straight so that the sweat from your nose didn’t drip on the keyboard.

Lettuce pray.

TRex

spore me the details.

OH!!!

Nice one, angie.

it flora’d me

Stop it or I will load my pistil, and shoot all you all.

stamen where you are, whig-guy!

really, g’nite.

Stamen, don’t go away!

Before this subject mushrooms, we could move on to fauna.

damn – quick-draw angie

Hee hee. Well done, T-Rex.

Out of curiosity, how do you keep your teeth pearly white after devouring a trailer park?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E…..and_Leaves

“Out West, where you vacation, the ferns will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them. Come back to soup*–and life.”

(*you had to be there)

Ok TRex, here’s one for the record books.

My daughter and her partner were either the very first or among the very first to insist that the Washington Post article about them say they were “married.”

She wanted it under Weddings but they put it under Celebrations. Still, a kind editor had it at the top of the page, lovely photo, and that they were “married.”

Now I’m going to sleep. 2am.

Billmon Has Explained It All:
The Lavender Threat
Violence in Israel caused by ‘gay’ event?
Rabbis link troubles to approval
of World Pride parade in Jerusalem
http://www.wnd.com/news/articl…..E_ID=51128
[snip]
Do Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell know about this? http://billmon.org/

It’s always nice to know that foreign fundies can be just as crazy as American fundies.

Out of curiosity, how do you keep your teeth pearly white after devouring a trailer park?

Joe Biden, dental consultant

Whig Guy – what exactly is the difference between “you all” and “all you all”? Is one pluralier than the other?

Sorry folks. Stepped away to take a shower. Yeah, 107 today. The link M=VG wants is Ivy’s Birdcam and yes it is on the right sidebar of my blog.

Twoton (laughing, thanks teddy). When I was a small child, I could not say my name correctly. I referred to myself as Twoton Green Book (Suzanne Irene B_____).

Thanks for the nice words about my wee blog.

Sheeesh, how do you all compost so fast?

I can say for certain that “all ya’ll” is the plural of “ya’ll.”

Out of curiosity, how do you keep your teeth pearly white after devouring a trailer park?

*Blushes*

I’m so glad you noticed! I just had them done.

But it helps to:

1. Brush and floss twice a day.
2. Avoid between-rampage snacks.
3. Only eat the freshest, cleanest trailer parks.
4. Never, ever, ever eat a meth lab.

Fern:
When I worked at the public schools and yelled at the children to clear the halls I would say “You all need to get out of the hall” They wouldn’t move . When it progressed to “all of you all” magic.

I’m from Soulard a part of St.louis, that is a tiny little bluesy town in a vast red sea. It’s how we speaks in the ‘Lou.

Last week in your honor, I bought several kinds of Greek olives from the Wine Cellar. The big ones stuffed with crunchy garlic are my favorites.

Oooooh, yum.

I make this hot-weather pasta salad with those big pasta shells, albacore tuna, chopped calamata olives, red onions, and a good strong, sour vinaigrette. You eat it with your favorite crackers. Requires virtually no cooking. Perfect for the middle of a hot afternoon.

Trex that is the gayest salad I’ve ever heard of…sounds great and I don’t eat fish..(Tho I have..)

Happy salad?

Man, I’m gonna try that one. Sounds toujours gai!

not for the fish

Trex that is the gayest salad I’ve ever heard of

*Looks hurt*

Well, it’s a SALAD! Hello!! Not exactly a food genre given to flourishes of manliness.

Still, I see nothing wrong with that recipe. My mother invented it. What are you implying?

Sounds simple though, think I might just pirate that meal.

TRex, channeling Doris Day:

“que salad, salad
whatever will green, will green”

G’nite all you funny, witty, smart firedogs! Hope feathery ferns fan you to sleep.

Sounds simple though, think I might just pirate that meal.

You make a giant bowl and put it in the fridge. And then you can just ladle it out as the mood strikes you. My mom made it at the beach. It always makes me do that time-travel thing. Childhood food.

Clearly, that’s what made me gay. My brother never liked that salad, so he never ate it.

G’nite all you funny, witty, smart firedogs. Hope feathery ferns fan you to sleep.

“que salad, salad
whatever will green, will green”

BOOOOOOOOOO!

No response to my revelation at 230?

BOOOOOOOOOO!

(throwing tomatoes at the stage)

thanks.. just put shells on my shopping list. I can’t find much of an apetite in this heat. I have a central unit and a couple window units fyi.

egregious – is that the daughter you just married off? guess we all took it in stride….

‘night, Dana

egregious ? What revelation?

TRex Dahlink

Implying something? Why do you ask? Are you implying something? Look, its just a salad, a tasty salad. And if its suited (Drag King salad?) for a hot , summer afternoon all the better to eat my dear (and your little dog too…?) Ok…clearly I’ve gone off on a wild tangent…call it stress…call it what you will…Oh, I will..

TRex…you make my time here in San Craptonio bearable (and Teddy too)

Hope:

Thanks for the Chomsky vid link.

Lots of lefty types dismiss Chomsky, he’s too this, or too that, and, of course, he does mightily take Israel to task, and that’s a problem.

A problem, because many people, right and left, hold Israel to be what would appear to be a Holy place, inviolable, truly sacrosanct. And often, even the mildest criticism of Israel becomes seen as anti–semitic. Sometimes is is, although not typically from the left.

Sometimes it’s just someone saying stop that shit.

Anyway, thanks for sharing that.

Does this mean TRex has a taste for trailer park trash?

eg

Really? you have a lesbian daughter?? Kewl.

TRex
4. Never, ever, ever eat a meth lab.

shorter Freud: there’s a meth id to your madness

My marriage was in high profile section of the big paper and a specially created low profile section in the alternative.

egregious -230

Yoo hoo – good for her!

moble methidology

Judging by many of my more tightly-wound Republican relatives, a manly heterosexual salad is made of booze, thinly veiled rage, sullen self-righteousness, booze, a Bill O’Reilly temper, and booze. And endives.

And there is nothing GAY ABOUT ENDIVES! ARRRGH!

mobile phone or home

Steve at 259

Oddly enough, it is a holy place for Muslims , Christians and Jews. You cannot speak of “The Holy Land” without including everyone that considers it so. That people consider speaking out, telling the truth, anti-Semetic is really more telling of a personal position that leaves out much of detail.

Thanks for checking the Chomsky out Steve, you are a gift.

266

Depends how you pronounce ‘endive’.
Ahn-deeve or end-dive…IMHO

guess we all took it in stride….

Indeed. I thought, “Oops. I must have missed that in another thread.” and tried to act all cool. “Oh, yeah, egregious’s trail-blazing lesbian daughter, yeah, I know all about that…”

And, typically, I just got busted.

Well at least tell me I am brave to share this. And she is brave beyond ridiculous limits. Taking on the Washington Post??

I swear if you look back over the comments in the threads since I’ve been alone, (July 6th) you’ll see me-talking-to-me right around this time every night. Scary.

I like the fact that it was “no big deal” to us and love the fact she took it to the WaPoo.

Eg, yes you are brave, but hell, we knew that already.

Hope 271:

You have surrounded yourself, in the Interubes at least, (Yeah, I know, NTodd) with compassionate folks, who care about people.

And no, no segue into a Streisand song there.

M/VG, if you are still here, here is the link to Ivy’s Birdcam in the Redwoods, Boulder Creek:

http://www.ivyjoy.com/webcam/

I just had a shot of Maker’s Mark. This could get serious.

Wapoo Avenue!

And no, no segue into a Streisand song there.

Steve.

That was so, like, gay.

Good point brave soul! After reading you for awhile this bravery does not surprise me. It is however, an honor to witness.

TRex — I make your Mom’s salad too, but add other veggies (green pepper, brocolli, zucchini, summer squash) for the crunch and the color. And I leave the olives whole. Works with pasta twists if you prefer them to shells — just use a substantial (non-dinky) pasta. And now it is definitely bedtime. Egregious, good for your daughter, standing up to the newspaper, and how silly that she had to. Eventually maybe America will catch up with Canada and Europe. G’night, y’all (or perhaps that should be all y’all.)

TRex:

I’ll take that as a compliment!

I just had a shot of Maker’s Mark. This could get serious.

Okay, Hopie. Hand me your keyboard. Friends don’t let friends blog drunk. You’ll only regret it in the morning.

Seriously. We don’t want you jumpin up and blogging from on top of the bar with your shirt off.

Okay, actually, I kind of do want that.

G’night Barbara B…always a pleasure to see you in here…Sweet ones…

TRex, you also, I seem to recall, gave me shit about a blogpost using a Wham! lyric for the title.

Cant’ we breeders utilize the fruits (pun intended) of Teh Gay?

Barbara B – Sleep well.

Barbara B, you know? I saw your picture from Yearly Kos and thought, “I *LOVE* her! And I don’t even know her!”

We’ll have to meet sometime. You’re in FL, aren’t you?

lol Rexie…Have you seen me?

(click my name, 3 posts down…)

woohoo HopeSAT. Nice navel!

Hey, that’s right. You did use that Wham! lyric.

Steve? Is there something you aren’t telling us? Is this going to end up being a Very Special Episode of FDL?

It’s okay, Steve. All guys go through times when they feel that way about other guys. And sometimes you feel like it can go away for years at a time. But, you know, you are what you are, and eventually it’s going to have its way with you. The question is whether you deal with that in a healthy way, or a Ralph Reed kind of way.

You’re among friends here, Steve.

Oh, my gosh. Your name is Steve.

Do you have track lighting in your house?

HopeSAT, you tease! Are you a SF native?

Nice navel!

indeed, but isn’t Dr. HopeSAT in the Army?

Tallahassee, TRex. And I love you too, and we have a date to meet any time. In fact, I love all the firepups. And I can’t even blame it on Maker’s Mark. I blog under the influence of caffeine free diet Coke. Sweet dreams to all.

track lighting. lmao

Trex:

Do you have track lighting in your house?

Just one little piece, over the breakfast bar.

Did yo ever see the live KD Lang HBO video, where she was going to reveal her secret, that she was “a L….a Lll….a Lllll…..a Liberace lover”?

Pretty funny.

Hope, besides the nice navel, I liked your blog and will bookmarked it for future visits.

ol Rexie…Have you seen me?

Goodness. I have now.

You got a brother?

I was born at Letterman Hospital, in the Presidio, San Francisco , CA. My husband is USAF active duty (Aim High!), currently TDY to Germany and Iraq. My tummy is almost my best feature. I wish it were brains. Someone get me another shot.

Been away from this blog for several weeks but gotta to say that reading it this morning is a lousy way to start the day. Reads like just about any other crappy blog you can find on the net. No, this isn’t the firedoglake that was.

Suzanne! Thank you! Please stop by anytime.

“Just one little piece, over the breakfast bar”

It always starts with just one little piece.

Dissapointed does not appear to be satisfied with the thousand plus fantastic comments I read here today.

Just one little piece, over the breakfast bar.

Uh.

Mah.

Gawd.

STEVE. IS. TEH. GAY. Y’ALL.

Uh.

Mah.

Gawd.

STEVE. IS. TEH. GAY. Y’ALL.

Now just a darned minute! Let me introduce you to my wife…

Bob.

I bet they are halogen with a gels and a dimmer switch.

Can someone show Mr. (Ms., Dr.?) disappointed the door? If you actually read at this blog then you read the posted topic and it context, the comments and the previous threads in order to properly contexualize what been said. This is our ‘downtime’. We need it. If you bothered to catch up on what you missed you would see that this is a blog that has incredible depth and breadth of intellegence, sesitivity and gravitas.

Dissapointed
I have the solution!
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/

With pin-spots for the kitchen art.

Mmmm. Mrs. Steve

LoL Newton

305:

No, actually, it’s a short piece probably from Target-was here when we moved in.

And the pisser is that bulbs burn out in it really fast. And no, i do electronic tech work, so I know about not putting too high wattage bulbs into the fixtures.

All in all, a cheap piece of shit. Hardly Architectural Digest quality.

Exactly Suzanne!

Anyone who lives out here in sunny SoCal is cordially invited to the next blogger party we have, and you can see that the breakfast bar is pretty…well, ordinary.

in fact, if you want to read about the last one we had, go back to Jane’s old place, and search for Kobepalooza

I have a pool…And I throw a great brunch.

Did someone get me that shot yet?

All in all, a cheap piece of shit. Hardly Architectural Digest quality.

…he sniffed, while turning up a French cuff, “But I’m not gay.”

Hope:

I’m drinking 2 buck Chuck, myself.

Hope, Thanks for the Gala and TRex& punaise for the wit, Suzanne and Steve as witness. G’nite y’all

I have a deck overlooking a creek in the redwoods and two of my neighbors and one of my houesmates are chefs.

nite ES

Well, i did kiss a man once, well, twice, well, I mean, 2 different men, once eash.

Whew, there’s that’s settled.

Suzanne at 319

Show-off.

Sweet dreams ES…

I’m drinking my ever-present cup of coffee. (laughing) Hope, notice I didn’t talk about MY cooking. However, I can bake a mean french apple tart.

But it’s 107 degrees at your place, Suzanne. You can all come to my place and hang out in the AIR CONDITIONING.

I’m drinking 2 buck Chuck, myself.

I’m drinking bottled water, taking two Zoloft, and going to bed.

G’night, firedogs!

Its a new Cable show:

“FDL Confessions”

Blog this baby.

I’ve known some french tarts…

Later, TR!

nite TRex

G’nt rexie. Thank you for you humor, intelligence and spirit.

Thank you for you humor, intelligence and spirit.

Pshaw. I’m just starved for attention.

Now, really, g’nite!

I’m gonna head off to bed soon myself. Gotta get up at 6am to head off through the Central Valley (where it is expected to be 111) to be in Placervile by 11am. My daughter is graduating from her program (woohoo) and heading off to Utah for school, where her dad is. Last one out the door is gonna be a hard one.

Congrats Suzanne. My mom lives in Tracy. get some sleep and thanks for hanging out.

Suzanne:

Last one out the door is gonna be a hard one.

We have Mrs. Audio’s younger (31) and his new wife back living with us. But next year, they are moving to France, where she is from, so that one will really be hard.

Hope, my oldest works in Tracy.
Steve, my (temporary) housemates have a place in France along the Med.

Hope, when I drive through Tracy on my way tomorrow and on the way back, I’ll give a little wave to your mom.

The virtual son and his wife are moving back to the Bordeaux area, that’s where she is from, and she works for a non-profit NGO there. Very liberal french tart! And I mean that in the sweetes way possible.

Wow this thread filled up in a hurry. Check out this YouTube of Nixon I found at Crawfordslist.

Ok…me too…out the door…gotta get some shut-eye. Thanks again Steve for the audio info, I’m gonna pick something out when i get back from Germany. Take care doll. ‘Night.

Thanks Suz. Great linky DB…Sleep. I never did get that last shot. I’m such a cheap date.

nite all.

Later, Hope!

Punaise:

I missed most of the party tonight, but catching up, you have outdone yourself.

Thanks for making me smile.

And I think you have some competition in Dana, unless he/she cribbed from Dorothy Parker. :)

Dover Bitch
Never thought I’d miss that fucker.

egregious – YES! you are brave! it’s hard to come out…. even as the parent… Good for you and good for your daughter…

I think the rest of ‘em have had a little too much two buck chuck!

…pardon my ignorance and bein’ a drive by kind of person lately but I am so wondering why all of a sudden Knute Gingrich is now in the picture being quoted saying this is WW III and that Condi Rice is a jerk who didn’t use enough ugliness in her attitude with North Korea. Why is this man I could never, ever stand back, being quoted and having meetings with other repubs and being written up?…I thought they got rid of him…and DeLay…these guys are like the stuff that gets stuck to your shoe and you can’t get it off…

spiderpaws
Believe it or not, he’s runnin for prez…

…oh god…spare me…

…if you put horns on his head and maybe some cloven hooves on his hands and feet…would anyone actually vote for him?

newtonusr, no kidding. It’s amazing how far they’ve shifted this country to the right. Nixon would be called a moonbat and a traitor today. Can you even imagine that 20 years from now we might watch a video of Bush stammering out some simpleton explanation of world affairs and think “Never thought I’d miss that fucker?”

Inconceivable.

…well it depends on far down the republican party lowers the bar in twenty years dover bitch…Nixon had a brain tho, bush does not

It also depends how far to the right the Democrats are willing to flock in order to find the “center.”

Morning. Can’t sleep worth a hoot — forgot how doobage always used to do that to me. Spied a couple of things on my way here. Milbank begins:

There was trouble from the first question at yesterday’s news conference by President Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

The AP’s Tom Raum had just asked a question about the violence in Iraq, and Bush looked down to gather his thoughts before turning to Maliki. “I’ll start,” the president said.

“Na’am,” said Maliki, using the Arabic word for “yes.”

“Okay, you start,” Bush offered, evidently thinking Maliki had said “no.”

“Na’am,” Maliki said again.

“You want to start? Go ahead,” the perplexed president pressed. Bush had by now put the interpretation device in his ear, an end to the who-goes-first game.

“Na’am,” Maliki repeated. “Na’am.”

In any language, Bush is having trouble getting to yes in the Middle East.

. . .

Michael Gordon begins:

BAGHDAD, Iraq, July 25 — The Bush administration’s announcement on Tuesday that it will shift more forces to Baghdad is much more than a numbers game. It reflects a new strategy to reclaim control of the Iraqi capital and a new approach for deploying the troops.

The plan is to concentrate on specific neighborhoods rather than distribute the forces throughout the city, control movement in and out of sectors of the capital and try to sweep them of insurgents and violent militias.

In effect, the scheme is a version of the “ink blot” counterinsurgency strategy of grabbing a piece of terrain, stabilizing it and gradually expanding it. Only this time the objective is not a far-flung Iraqi city or town, but the capital, the seat of the fledgling government and home to some seven million Iraqis.

The plan has risks. It will divert American military police from deploying to Anbar Province, where the insurgency continues to rage. And an increased presence of American troops on the ground in Baghdad, where insurgent attacks have soared, carries the potential of more American casualties.

But Baghdad in military parlance is the “center of gravity” for the larger effort to secure the country.

Restoring security in a capital that is tormented by sectarian strife and lawless militias is such an essential task that American commanders are willing to accept a greater degree of risk elsewhere.

Sending in additional troops is an implicit acknowledgment of what every Iraqi in Baghdad already knows: Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki’s original Baghdad security plan has failed.

. . .

Now to back up and see what y’all are offering in the way of cheer-up . . .

Nixon was a highly intelligent, legally trained, politically savvy fellow with some near-fatal flaws. Don’t get me wrong – he discussed bribing the Watergate burglars through Howard Hunt. He initiated a security state, using the FBI as his personal political organ. When in Congress, he ruined lives as a rabid anti-Communist. He was no saint. But he was capable, informed, and had potential to lead.

This Bush guy has one quality – people would like to have a beer with him. He’s personable.

I’d take highly imperfect but capable over vacant frat-boy any day.

spiderpaws
Done Newts chart?

Newton Leroy Gingrich, (born June 17, 1943) in Dauphin, Pennsylvania

Good Morning All…….now for coffee and some reading…….
OS

1,221 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…

nutonusr:

Be careful whatchu wish for…remember that Tricky Dick Nixon had a Democratic Congress and an FDR/Truman/JFK court. If Tricky had had the majority in congress that this Bozo has, we’d all be speakin’German. And Dick Nixon’s intelligence was much over rated…he was too clever by half and learned political warfare quickly but was incredibly ignorant of some very essential things, even for his generation (see anti-semitism and racism). No, the only re4ason the country survived Dick Nixon was a Democratic congress.

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THE BATTLE HASN’T EVEN WARMED UP YET!!

Oh my my, a very fine send-off to Jane’s b’day we’ve had here, I see! Now lemme think back . . .

D’ja catch Tweety’s slip early-on in the Imus tape? I quote: … Now look where Iran was when we came in — when this Administration came in …

FERN: Yay! Vedge ROOLZ!

Hopie’s gawjus navel ROOLZ!

egregious and her daughter and her wife ROOLZ!

Early-ay-em Norske (what?! Of all people!) ROOLZ!

All y’all ROOLZ! [you > singular; y’all >> plural; all y’all >>> um, well, pluplural, is how that goes]

Okay, now I’ll subside for tea … which, need I add … ROOLZ!

french tarts?…

More like a tartelette, thank you.

Good morning everyone.

Top o’ the Mornin’ To Ya!
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From yesterday’s Globe:
http://www.boston.com/news/loc…..s_podiums/
Article about ‘freeway blogging’ on Rt. 128, Weston MA. Heavy traffic. Two signs on an overpass:
1)”The War is a Lie”
2) “And You Know It”
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Catching up…

Wow, this post was quite the read. NIXON for pity’s sake sounds like today’s left. Good Gawd. Billmon rocked.

And I haven’t even gotten to tha nooz pages yet.

Hey there, moi and Kludge. How y’all?

Ditto you, OS!

364-366: Well, those were edifying.

I agree, feral member of the canine species. A morning scratch behind your ears okay with you?

Wags tail.

Morning Lotus,
Took me over an hour to read through this thread, now I”m late for work!
Yikes.
Have a great day y’all :-)

Oh, twolf, you too! Well, that’s fine, I’ve presently got hands enough to scratch behind two sets of canid ears.

[softly, babytalkly, smiling] Tum’ere, boys . . .

Hi Lotus, how are you this fine morning (fine if you don’t read the headlines)?

[scratch, scratch, scratch … hoping to see two canid friends’ hind paws start that air-flea-search move in pleasure]

Yeah, twolf, can’t get to the papuhz yet, happily got my hands fulla better things right now . . .

and didja see this one…..

http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/degraw/39374

Okay, thanks for those sweet kisses, boys [swipes mouth on sleeve], but that’s enough. Let’s go see what’s in your bowls now, okay? Yay! Yeah, yay it is … okay, let’s go!

lotus -
So far, so good. Could get hot today in WMass.
-
Quickie on Bush/beer. I just thought of this yesterday..
I’d want to have a beer IN FRONT OF BUSH.

He’s ‘on the wagon’ ain’t he?
Do supporters who think ‘He’d be fun to have a beer with?’ get that?

With ya there, Kludge. And let’s smack our lips, and talk-up how gooood this ice-cold one tastes, for all we’re worth.

Yo Lotus, top of the morning to you too.

I was wondering if I’d put somethinginto my coffee this morning, like cool-aid, when I read those furrin posts there

Thanks

bagel w/ cherry jam in my bowl — iced coffee in water dish

Got fog this mornin’, OS, or is it clear up yonder?

Already heat-hazy here.

not too sure i believe that the chimp is actually on the wagon. Him saying that is like ded-eye dick saying there was no beer on the hunting trip.

A feral member of the canine family rolls on to his paws and lopes away into the grey, muggy morning. He casts one last glance back at the lake below. A breeze is coming with the dawn. Portentous ripples race across the dark blue waters. He races away to drowse awhile in his den before his cub begins to stir.

Your bowls sound way better’n what Ripple and Kate just snarfed-up with gusto here (i.e., diabetic kitty chow), twolf.

lotus -
I’d drain one straightaway, order another, and shtart shlurring my wordsh jusht a bit…

…and lmao.

Hee!

Luv this nuthouse.

OT – baby peregrines:
http://www2.ucsc.edu/scpbrg/im…..struck.jpg

PLAMEOLOGISTS!

about to get epu’d, but i wanted to give y’all a headsup for this kos diary:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/26/2349/17507

innarestin’ stuff…

hezbollah counterfeiting US currency?
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008703

Le Jackal–LOL Greetings Twolf1

Lo (not to be mistaken for lo above) …Clear and sunny on the coast here. Thunderstorms predicted for last night did not manifest. But it will be hot humid and hazy
later…..about 68 degrees now. NICE

(Glad that imm is getting some good weather for vacation-time)

I know Specter’s hearing is coming up a little later on a different matter…

But I had this thought (which I’ve not seen mentioned; not highly tech myself, so I don’t know this, but…)
it would seem that if the Telecoms have their way on NetNeutrality,instituting a tiered notiion to packet delivery, wouldn’t that make ALL packets easier for NSA to track?
—–
Just a thought…

Old Sow – I was in Lubec, ME last week. I photographed an amazing sunset. When I turned around, there was a double rainbow behind me. I had just walked out of a local bar and thought to myself that maybe I should go to the dock and look at the sunset. I’m glad I did. It was beautiful, but maybe old hat for you?

…just started goin’ through the trip pictures last night ;)

Lord, twolf — those look like beaky li’l rabid lambz to me! (And if Hezbollah IS counterfeiting bucks, far be it from our Treasury Dept/FBI to have a clue, eh?)

Thanks for that link, medaka — good letter indeed.

OS, yes, I was just thinking about imm ‘n’ ‘em yesterday, hoping they’re having a great time fulla sunshine and lobstah rolls. [da-rool]

Today’s Globe has a followup on housing info for MA.

http://www.boston.com/business…..es_tumble/
“Home sales in Massachusetts tumbled 16.6 percent and condominium sales declined 14.3 percent in June, but the dramatic slowdown in sales had little impact on real estate prices.”
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Anyone can make sense of this stuff? I’m ignorant.

twolf, yes you DO gotta go through your pix and bring us more breath-takers like those! Wow.

lotus, glad you like ‘em. I will eventually have more to show. Sadly, paying jobs take precedence over my personal work so it may take me a little while to get them edited — between my girlfriend and I, we took 1300 pix. We would have taken more but only had 2 non-foggy days ;)

twolf1 -
1300 pix?! Guess that’s more than a couple memory sticks, eh? Wow!
—–
“Women’s deliberation
Philosopher-author Linda R. Hirshman courts controversy by insisting that a mother’s place is at the office

By Barbara F. Meltz, Globe Staff | July 26, 2006

As a philosopher, Linda R. Hirshman is in a field where death threats are not typically an occupational hazard. Until now.

Hirshman has come out ardently in the media in favor of working mothers, so much so that she’s invoked the wrath of a host of “mommy bloggers,” also known as SAHM, stay-at-home-mothers, as well as a death threat that prompts her to not reveal where she lives. A former professor at Brandeis University, she and her husband, who has a different last name, live “somewhere” in New York State.”…

http://www.boston.com/news/glo…..iberation/

Good morning. Some of the posts above sounded like me with crumbs in the keyboard. One types a letter, and something totally different shows up on the screen. Typed an “l” and got 50 periods. Had to do a little cleaning. Will have to buy another keyboard I think. Third one in a year.

I laughed out loud at the quote from Milbank. That whole presser shounded like Bush at his very ‘best.’ (sarcasim)

Oh. MY. God.

Here is is, first thing in the morning. The world is going to hell in a handbasket and I am laughing my ass off!

Doncha wish your boyfriend was hot like mine?

TREX!

TREX!

TREX!

BK here in Maine, we now have about 24,500 houses on the market with about 3,000 under contract. At this time in 2004, there were about 14,000 on the market and 4,600 under contract. Prices are about the same or up a little, according to my real estate broker, and the number of buyers is about the same. Not great for sellers. Anyone looking for an income property?

Nice snap, twolf, it’s been foggy this summer fer shur!!

Now out the door for a walk before it heats up. Catch ya later…….

413 Posts! Yikes…it will take me all morning to read these!

Old Sow – I did notice there were a lot of places, including many businesses for sale. If only I had some extra cash.

I’d like to put something about Dewine (who is one of WaPo’s bellwether races) and this:
http://news.com.com/FBI plans new Net-tapping push/2100-1028_3-6091942.html

(BTW: use google to search ‘DeWine CNET’ and then click the top link. CNET will notice google, and show ‘related stories’ – they do a pretty fair job on this issue, ihmo, for a Windows shill shop.)

“The FBI has drafted sweeping legislation that would require Internet service providers to create wiretapping hubs for police surveillance and force makers of networking gear to build in backdoors for eavesdropping, CNET News.com has learned.

FBI Agent Barry Smith distributed the proposal at a private meeting last Friday with industry representatives and indicated it would be introduced by Sen. Mike DeWine, an Ohio Republican, according to two sources familiar with the meeting.”…
—–

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00508.html

I’m probably not sharp enough to craft a well focused query, but maybe someone else has the gift…

Got to thinking about the Barbara Boxer form letter received by some yesterday, and decided that if she’d put that much thought into answering the “Plan B” questions when the subject originally came up, she might not be in such hot water. From early June to late July is a long time to let that kind of hang out there, reinforced by her response in Waterbury with Maura and the gang. Letter was well-written, but the equivalent of closing the barn door with horse already halfway across the country, instead of grazing in the front pasture.

Hi, GrandmaJ. Uh-huh, I unmuted CNN for a bit of that presser yesterday, and it was amazing how badly Chimpy was failing in his attempts to read his script. Really — I thought he might be on the edge of a heart attack or stroke or something, he was so messed-up. Tony Blair looked like death-warmed-over when I glimpsed him yesterday too.

Even if their (alleged) minds are impervious, their bodies can’t take much more of this.

ccmask –
oh. and punaise on fiyah…”Botany Spears”. THAT’S Hall of Fame.

cc, you’re in for a multitude of treats, grrl.

ok FDL kids, I’m off until mid afternoon. Have fun!

Knock ‘em dead, twolf!

Condi-Kofi meeting in shreds, of course, and now nearly an hour overdue to the mikes as they try to come up with so little as a face-saving statement.

– CNN

ccmask -
If you find this, please put the visit to the Cloisters somewhere near the top of your ‘To Do’ list. If ya haven’t got there yet. Definetely impressive. Noticed the comment the other day you found them closed. Must see, imho.

Good morning lotus. Sad news everywhere I look these days. I was up late and now up early, looking for any scrap of positive news. Other than Kos’ political polls showing many dems leading, not many scraps of good news out there.

And having been encouraged about positive polls too many times before, I worry about the evil plans that are lurking to stop dems from voting or otherwise slime everyone. Because those plans are being made right now.

O.k., at least we are with friends as we watch the world burn itself up with hate.

In honor of Fern:

Life in the Slaw Lane: (By Kip Addotta)

It was Cucumber the first; summer was over. I had just spinached a long day and I was busheled. I’m the kinda guy that works hard for his celery and I don’t mind telling you I was feeling a bit wilted. But I didn’t carrot all. ‘Cause, otherwise, things were vine. I try never to disparagus and I don’t sweat the truffles. I’m outstanding in my field and I know something good will turnip eventually. A bunch of things were going grape, and soon, I’d be top banana. At least, that’s my peeling. But that’s enough corn; lend me your ear and lettuce continue: After dressing, I stalked on over to the grain station. I got there just in lime to catch the nine-elemon as it plowed toward the core of Appleton, a lentil more than a melon-and-a-half Yeast of Cloveland.

CHORUS: Life in the slaw lane. They say plants can’t feel no pain. Life in the slaw lane. I’ve got news for you: They’re just as frail as you.

No one got off at Zucchini, so we continued on a rotaBega. Passing my usual stop, I got avoCado. I hailed a passing Yellow Cabbage and told the driver to cart me off to Broccolyn. I was going to meet my brother across from the eggplant where he had a job at the Saffron station pumpkin gas. As soon as I saw his face, I knew he was in a yam. He told me his wife had been raisin cane. Her name was Peaches: a soiled but radishing beauty with HUGE goards. My brother had always been a chestnut, but I could never figured out why she picked him. He was a skinny little string bean who had always suffered from cerebral parsley. It was in our roots. Sure, we had tried to weed it out, but the problem still romained. He was used to having a tough row to how, but it irrigated me to see Artichoke, and it bothered my brother to see his marriage going to seed.

CHORUS: Life in the slaw lane. They say plants can’t feel no pain. Life in the slaw lane. I’ve got news for you: They’re just as frail as you.

Like most mapled couples, they had a lot of grilling to do. Sure, they’d sown their wild oats, but just barley if you peas. Finally, Peaches had given him an ultomato. She said, “I’m hip to your chive, and you don’t stop smoking that herb, I’m gonna leaf ya for Basil, ya fruit!” He said he didn’t realize it had kumquat so far. Onion other hand, even though Peaches could be the pits, I knew she’d never call the fuzz.

CHORUS: Life in the slaw lane. They say plants can’t feel no pain. Life in the slaw lane. I’ve got news for you: They’re just as frail as you.

So I said, “Hay, we’re not farm from the Mushroom! Let’s walk over.” He said, “That’s a very rice place. That’s the same little bar where alfalfa my wife!” When we got there, I pulled up a cherry and tried to produce small talk. I told him I haven’t seen Olive; not since I shelled off for a trip to Macadamia when I told her, “We cantaloupe.” The time just wasn’t ripe. She knew what I mint. When we left the Mushroom, we were pretty well-juiced. I told Arti to say hello to the boysenBerry and that I’d orange to see him another thyme. Well, it all came out in the morning peppers: Arti caught Peaches that night with Basil, and Arti beat Basil bad, leaving him with two beautiful acres. Peaches? She was found in the garden; she’d been pruned.

CHORUS: Life in the slaw lane. They say plants can’t feel no pain. Life in the slaw lane. I’ve got news for you: They’re just as frail as you.

Well, my little story is okra now. Maybe it’s small potatoes. Me? Idaho. My name? Wheat. My friends call me “Kernel”. And that’s life in the slaw lane. Thank you so mulch.

CHORUS: Life in the slaw lane. They say plants can’t feel no pain. Life in the slaw lane. I’ve got news for you: They’re just as frail as you.

It’s a garden out there!

morning, all.

so the talks have stalled and no cease fire. sad state of affairs that people want to go on killing in lieu of talking to one another.

btw, is anyone else disconcerted that we get to see so much about Israeli troop movements and plans and even a cockpit video of a ’surgical strike’ that our media play for us? Coupled with the array of Israel pols and military people justifying everything they are doing, it seems very odd, indeed.

Now Miles is giving us the number for the world food program if we want to help with the humanitarian crisis in Lebanon…

How about a cease fire????? That would be humanitarian.

LexNex-enabled friend just supplied today’s MoDo. Here’s much of it (KILLER last sentence).

It’s too bad President Bush spurns evolution — both in his view of the universe and his view of himself.

. . .

If you turn on TV, you see missiles flying, bodies lying, nuclear missiles unleashed and a slaughterhouse in Iraq. But don’t despair, because yesterday President Bush announced the establishment of “a joint committee to achieve
Iraqi self-reliance.” He called it a “new partnership,” as if it were some small business.

. . .

In a press conference at the White House with his rogue puppet, the Iraqi prime minister, Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, Mr. Bush explained that “our strategy is to remain on the offense, including in Baghdad.” Then why, after three and a half years, does our offense look so much like a defense?

The president sounded like a Jon Stewart imitation of himself when he assured reporters that Mr. Maliki had “a comprehensive plan” to pacify Iraq. “That’s what leaders do,” W. lectured, in a familiar refrain. “They see
problems, they address problems, and they lay out a plan to solve the problems.”

If only the plan were a little less robbing-Peter-to-pay-Paul, and a little more road-to-Damascus epiphany. Taking troops out of Anbar Province, where the insurgency is thriving, to quell violence in Baghdad doesn’t inspire confidence that the plan is truly “comprehensive.”

And despite W.’s praise of Mr. Maliki’s leadership, the plan to start from scratch, in essence, stabilizing neighborhood by neighborhood in Baghdad is, as The Times’s Michael Gordon writes, “an implicit acknowledgment of what every Iraqi in Baghdad already knows”: the prime minister’s “original Baghdad security plan has failed. In the past two weeks, more Iraqi civilians have been
killed than have died in Lebanon and Israel.”

Mr. Bush also sent Condi Rice to lay out a plan to the Arabs and Europeans about the destruction and refugee flight in Lebanon, but the plan turns out to be a plan to do nothing until Israel has more time to kick the Hezb out of Hezbollah.

W. says he supports more diplomacy, but it’s the diplomacy of sanctimony. He now grudgingly notes that “the violence in Baghdad is still terrible,” but doesn’t seem to grasp the tragic enormity of an occupation that is sliding into
civil war and constricting his leverage to deal with all the other crises crackling around the world. The U.N. reported last week that in May and June no less than 5,818 Iraqi civilians were killed.

Although he talked about whether America could be “facile” and “nimble” enough to change with the circumstances in the Middle East, in fundamental ways, he has not changed his attitude at all.

. . .

The president sees Lebanon as a test of macho mettle rather than the latest chapter in a fratricidal free-for-all that’s been going on for centuries. “I view this as the forces of instability probing weakness,” he said. “I think
they’re testing resolve.”

. . .

Bill Clinton, the Mutable Man par excellence, evolved four times a day; he had a tactical and even recreational attitude toward personal change. But W. prides himself on his changelessness and regards his immutability as the surest sign of his virtue. Facing a map on fire, he sees any inkling of change as the
slippery slope to failure.

That’s what’s so frustrating about watching him deal — or not deal — with Iraq and Lebanon. There’s almost nothing to watch.

It’s not even like watching paint dry, since that, too, is a passage from one state to another. It’s like watching dry paint.

new thread: http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..your-calls

cc, vedge and you ROOLZ!

ccmask -

“We are stardust, we are goldem, we are billiion year old carbon; and we’ve got to get back into The Garden.”
J. Mitchell

Got a kick outta them veggies there. I recall it, veggly.

lo, a lot of us at FDL will always fight for your right to comment here. You represent an opinion that a lot of Americans and Israelis share and adding it to FDL only improves the level of discourse imo.

You are obviously sincere and that counts for an awful lot here.
Israel has legitimate security concerns. The more you can enlighten us about what life is really like, the more it helps everyone.

IMO, the US and Israel have put their neighbors in a situation where they have very little to lose in armed conflict with Israel. That’s always a very dangerous sitation. I know there are no easy answers, but bombing infrastructure creates more problems than it solves.
Current Israeli US strategy wrt Lebanon is guaranteed to topple that government. That will only exacerbate Israel’s security problems.

I’ll check back if I get a chance. Peace and safety to you and those you care about.

Dammit, I clicked on the VLOG link.

When did Fran Drescher start a blog?

One more thing, by way of full disclosure, my ancestors are 75% German and I was raised Roman Catholic. I have a lot of very healthy guilt about why my ancestors allowed to happen at a minimum in the Holocaust.
I suspect my “remembering” is of little solace to you right now, but I needed to say it.

“I have a lot of very healthy guilt about why what my ancestors allowed to happen, at a minimum, in the Holocaust.”

john casper- i appreciate your change of tone with me. i think we all want peace in that region. I also want you to know that i don’t think israel is infallible, but it just urks me when commentor after commentor attack israel as if it were a terrorist state. In retrospect, maybe this wasn’t the best topic to delurk myself on, when people don’t know anything else about you. if you are interested, there are a lot of israeli blogs i read that do sympathize with the lebanese but can better express their side of things. Here are a few
israellycool.com/
israelibunker.blogspot.com/
allisonkaplansommer.blogmosis.com/

in keeping with full disclosure– I am a modern orthodox jew, whose grandparents are make that were survivors of the holocaust. so you can see why i feel so strongly about this. While i appreciate your guilt, i think you are your own person (with moral and upstanding views-based on your comments) and its very hard to judge the way people acted back then

“Um, officer? Thank you, there’s a TRex in my trailer park…yes, I’ll hold…no, no problem…(sigh)…Hi, I wanted to report a rampaging TRex in my trailer park…yes, I’ll hold…”

Thanks a lot lo.
Jane and Christy have talked about this, we at FDL are simply not well informed about this.
I hope you continue to delurk here.
I think you ran into a knee jerk reaction, because a lot of the neocons we fight, want Israel to attack Lebanon as part of the War on Terror.
Right now the entire political landscape in the U.S. favors Israeli policies. Henry Reid and other liberal Dems are all supporting it.
IMO this is not a sustainable policy, but no one at FDL is supporting Hezbollah lobbing rockets into Israel either. Unfortunately, when we argue with you, I am sure it doesn’t appear that way.
I just want to again emphasize how much you improve the level of discussion when you have the courage to take what is at first an unpopular position. I’m repeating myself here, but your’s is a major position in the U.S. that is not represented at FDL.
Thanks for the web sites.

thanks for going out your way to re welcome me, and yes i will continue to speak up about the ME situation. The level of discussion here is generally awesome (take that as a compliment it includes you). Gotta get my kids ready for camp, but i look forward to more discussion later. May we all see peace …..soon!

LO,
I totally understand where you’re coming from. It takes a lot of guts to stand up to liberal opinionators that we agree with most of the time- but when there are comments that hint or smack of racial stereotyping, you have to draw the line.

What is happening in Israel and Lebanon is deadly for us, most of us identify with people on both or either side in the region. I am unable to discuss the topic without shuddering with emotion. Somehow we have to get past that point and focus on ways to create peaceful coexistence between these countries. If the objective is anything less than that war will continue.

I checked into the site today looking for more information about who the democrats are that voted with the republicans on the bill making it a felony to help young girls get to a safe place for a safe abortion.

But after reading the previous conversation with John Caspar et al, really had to comment about this.

lo —

If “it just urks me when commentor after commentor attack israel as if it were a terrorist state[,]” I fear you’ll continue to be irked often here for as long as Olmert and his generals are behaving as terrorists.

Many — in fact, probably most of us posting and commenting here, though we support Israel and have as long as we’ve been conscious adults — are appalled by the IDF’s war crimes over these last two weeks. That is NOT because we sympathize with Hamas or Hezbollah (or with the governments of Iran or Syria), but because the IDF’s behavior and the suffering of innocent Lebanese and Palestinians it has caused are horrific in-and-of themselves

AND

because we so deeply fear that its government’s terrifically-mistaken acts of overkill are dooming the state of Israel to unending further war. Both our hearts and our minds are breaking as we watch this happen.

Are you a resident of Israel, writing from there now? Could you please post any links you have to Israeli media or polling institutions that might provide us a good sense of national public opinion right now? I, for one, would appreciate that very much.

Shalom.

lotus i guess this is where we disagree. idf war crimes- how many wars do you know of that don’t have innocent casualties. Furthermore, the same could be said of the US for the way it handled iraq, plenty of war crimes there.
Also i am not israeli, i’m a new jerseyan(?spelling) and just as fed up with bushco as the rest of us. if you scroll back to 420 i listed some israely blogs that i like that might interest you. i wish i had more time to continue convo but my kids need to get to camp. sorry

lo @ 427 said Furthermore, the same could be said of the US for the way it handled iraq, plenty of war crimes there.

Exactly. J’accuse (Nous accusons?) the U.S. as lead by Bushco of war crimes vs. Iraq, and of invading Iraq illegally. Israel appears guilty of the same excesses WRT Lebanon. Are you saying we should give Israel a pass because the US does the same thing?

http://www.bitterlemons.org for an ongoing debate between palestinians and israelis.

this is undoubtedly epu’d but would note a worry that this split w/in the dem/liberal ranks over israel’s policy/war in lebanon could be used by adroit republicans to peel away voters. i’ve watched the split occur w/in the fdl ranks in the past week and a half. and i don’t see a cure for it at all. very distressing.

TRex: Wolcott heard your plea!

“While i appreciate your guilt, i think you are your own person (with moral and upstanding views-based on your comments) and its very hard to judge the way people acted back then.”
I agree.
I am also aware that a lot of ignorant Americans are virulently white supremacists and anti-semetic. I can do nothing about what the Roman Catholic Church promoted and enabled in Germany and Europe in the 30’s and the 40’s, but I am also aware that those forces live on and must be countered.
Jesus of Nazareth died a good and pious Jew. He was crucified by the Romans, not by his own people. First century CE tensions within Israel between “followers of the Nazarene” and other orthodox interpretations of Judaism at that time imploded after the Romans destroyed Jerusalem in 70CE. The pluralism that thrived prior to 70 ended. The anti-semitism in the New Testament comes as a result of the destruction of the Temple and being banned. We lost much of the documents about the “Jewishness of Jesus” and all that survived was passed through a Greek filter with a lot of anti-semitism.
I’m glad you’re in NJ, out of harms way.

TRex, I want to have your babies!!!

Terror is as Terror does.

you’ll get linked when kos decides and not until…get it?

Wolcott!

“naught”

I’m seeing a potential movie script here. Pammy goes to the Mid-East, somehow gets mistaken for an international peace envoy. A stuffy British guy is assigned to accompany her. Everybody is so transfixed by her wacky antics and bizarre behavior, that they start laughing together at her and forget why they have been fighting the last thousand years. Peace is declared, stuffy English guy falls in love with her and asks for her hand. At the end, big wedding with comical stereotypes as the whole world celebrates!

And the only unhappy person left in the world is Mr. Blackwell, who faints when he sees the bridesmaids’ dresses.

great… after watching the 1st 30 seconds of pammie’s VLOG, now I’m fucking blind, AND I’m going GAY.

Ayn Rand would kill her. Dead.

And justify it by saying she initiated the most egregious fraud possible before Ayn initiated force.

Rand based her whole life single-mindedly on her personal ideology, which utterly rejected Zionism (and feminism, and communism and Democracy and Republicanism, and any ism but capitalism, which she regarded as the way of Nature). The kind of deep-rooted identity politics and groupthink inherent in the Zionist vision (any of them) would have been the epitome of anti-Rand. She would have declared both Pamela and her hate targets equally vile and worthless.

And it would have been particularly galling to see such a slack-jawed moron assume her mantle without permission from the Ayn Rand Institute. She was furious with the Libertarians for not acknowledging their debt to her but also for what she saw as their compromises with statism and nationalism.