
Dear Israel-
We need to talk.
I thought we had a fucking deal. Me and all my liberal blogger cronies were going to blithely look the other way while you use overwhelming force against civilians in Lebanon, and you were supposed to take Pam from Atlas Shrugs and her excitable italics off our hands for a couple weeks.
And now I see that somehow in all the confusion last week, you backed off and now we're stuck with her. From her blog:
The Press secretary of the Embassy of Israel called to cancel my trip to Israel. They recommend that I not go to Israel. Apparently they have canceled all my interviews and war coverage. Ugh.
Except to really get this statement in Pam-ese, it must be read:
Duh PRESS sick-ruh-tairy of duh EMM-buh-see of ISREE-uhl cuh-wald tuh KYEN-sul my trip tuh ISREE-uhl, etc....
In other words, someone in the Holy Land set up a bunch of interviews and events for her to attend and THEN looked at her blog and (eugh!) vlogs.
"Oh, shit! Itzhak! Get in here! We gotta problem!"
"Vhat? Vhat, Shlomo? Vhat's so important it couldn't wait until I've finished my coffee?"
"Remeber that blogger we've got coming from the US?"
"Who, zhet Pamela person?"
"Yeah. Look..."
(Cut to computer screen, where Pam is dancing and rapping in front of a salt water aquarium , holding an empty martini glass.)
Pam: "Betchoo wish yuh guhlfrinn' was hot-like-me..."
"You're right, Shlomo. We got a problem. You'd better call her and cancel."
"But! But! I set up all these interviews! What do I tell her?"
"Tell her we're closed! Vhat do I care? Just make sure she doesn't come here! Vhe got enough of a humanitarian crisis on our hands already!!"
Damn you, Israel. We were all sooooooo looking forward to it. Out of all the 101st fighting keyboarders, one, ONE (!!) conservative blogger gets ready to suit up and charge headlong into a war zone and you cancel??!! It was all going to be so exciting! Pam in Tel Aviv, desperately trying to find a Saks because she left her lip-liner back on Long Island. Pam in desert fatigues a la Judy Miller and Edina Monsoon, drunkenly attacking a bunch of Israeli peace protestors, "ANTI-SEMIIIIIIITES!!" she screams, then mounts an IDF bulldozer and drives into the crowd, "SAY HELLO TO RAYYY-CHULL FRICKIN' CORRIEEEE FUH ME, YA MOOOOOOO-SLUM SYMPUH-T'IZAAAAHSS!!"
VROOOOM!!!
And all for nought. You took it all away from us, Israel. And you're going to PAY.
You see in the above illustration (spotted in the grocery check-out line by Thers from Whiskey Ashes) what has happened as the result of my losing my temper. (Gawd, my skin looks sandpaper in that picture! Like lizard scales or something!) And what about them calling me 60 million years old! I'm 38, dammit!! THIRTY. EIGHT. And not a day over, bitchez!!
I'm sure that all of you out there were just as disappointed as I was to learn that Pammy's Excellent Adventure had been cancelled. One helpful commenter at TBogg's place suggested the following:
She should go anyway. There's so much she could do to show Israel what a good friend she is. Hang around, be there in case it needs her. Show up at Israel's office right at lunch time, saying she was just in the neighborhood and do you want to grab a quick bite. Call Israel several times a day and leave emotional messages on its answering machine. Go to clubs where Israel hangs out just in case it wants to talk to her. Sleep in her car outside Israel's house. Break in and boil Israel's pet bunny in the kitchen.
--deNoVa
Sigh. True.
I guess I could attempt to buoy up our spirits by doing a detailed review of her latest vlog post, the one that caused TBogg to say , "I'd like to thank Watertiger for the link, but I'm waiting to see if my testicles will ever come back out of hiding."
Jane was putting peer-pressure on me this morning to do exactly that. "You'll get the Wolcott link, Rex," she said, dangling the bait, "You know you love it when Wolcott links you. And he can't resist when it comes to Pam. Go on, do it! Whaddya, scared? Everybody's doing it, Rex..."
But I set my jaw, dug in my heels and Just Said No, Thank You. I would love to score another Wolcott link (to go with my Gilliard link from last night! W00t!!), but it's just not worth having to watch the clip the whole way through. I'd need a full HazMat suit and a pair of giant tongs. When Pam vlogs, she's bad, but when she vlogs drunk, she becomes one of the horsemen of the apocalypse. I tried to watch it. I struggled manfully along for about 30 seconds, but when she started dancing and rapping, and then called her fish-tank a "culture of life", I started throwing up blood. It was just too much. I think I'd rather spend a season in Gitmo than a night drinking with Pam Atlas.
But anyway, Israel, I'm going to remember this. The next time you want to send your drunk cousin up here to Georgia to dry out, I'm cancelling. Forget it. I'm having Kobe, my press secretary, call your ass and cancel. Forget it. We had a deal and you blew it. Thanks for nothing.
Sincerely,
T.Rex, Esq.
P.S. I'm telling your girlfriend what you did at Egypt's bachelor party. Yeah, I'm that pissed.
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I’m so astonished to be here in this desert, I can’t think of what to say!
Fitz!
Rootz!!
and TRex for teh win.
so close, yet so far…
So today…
It’s Jane’s B’day
VG returns
Shoogarp takes the plunge
Lotus sparks a joint
Christy says it’s never been her cuppa ;)
Norske is BACK!
John Casper lays out the righteous smackdown…
and I ain’t even caught up all the way yet.
What did I miss?
Whasssaaaabi TRex?
You fellows just crack me up!
You see in the above illustration (spotted in the grocery check-out line by Thers from Whiskey Ashes) what has happened as the result of my losing my temper.
Damn. TRex SMASH!! is something we need to avoid.
Whatever I can do to avoid pissing you off, I’m on it.
Worth remembering: Lieberman endorsed McCain for President- and he calls himself a Democrat?
“Every now and again we’re asked that, and McCain always says we couldn’t do it because each of us would want to be vice president,” Lieberman told The Associated Press. “And my presidential campaign days are over; I hope his aren’t.”
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....1356/38743
*ginormous snicker*
TRex !
“Betchoo wish yuh guhlfrinn’ was hot-like-me..”
TRex, after reading all the gruesome news today, all I can say is thank you for making me laugh out loud.
“Vhat? Vhat, Shlomo?
So Israeli’s, when their “translated” into English for blog entertainment purposes, sound like a Yiddishe Mama from the lower East Side?
Maybe I missed it here, but I haven’t seen a front-page post about Colorado’s 4th (The Fighting Fourth!), Dem candidate Angie Paccione and the monster that is Marilyn Musgrave.
Paccione has a real shot at making this district Blue for the first time in decades. There’s a lot to say about Paccione, but I’ll leave that to Howie, who could do a much better job.
In the meantime, allow me to point out a few reasons to care about getting this district back from the clutches of evil.
Mugrave is the person who used Katrina as an excuse to ask Bush to suspend Davis-Bacon and screw the people in NOLA even harder, something she had been trying to do for years.
Mugrave’s the one who introduced the latest failed attempt to write discrimination into the Constitution.
Mugrave’s the one who just introduced a bill which would deny funding for the DOJ if it enforces the law requiring guns to have child safety locks — a requirement reached as a compromise in a 2005 bill that limited gun manufacturer’s liability. The bill passed in the House and awaits a debate in the Senate.
Mugrave helped lead the charge into Terri Shiavo’s hospital room and offered a diagnosis on the floor of Congress.
Musgrave is also the one who illegally posed with uniformed troops at a GOP fundraiser and fabricated a suite in her office in order to send out illegal campaign ads.
Musgrave has taken money from oil companies and then turned around and help get those multi-billion dollar subsidies for big oil. She’s taken money from Tom DeLay’s PAC and defended him. She’s in league with the crew who brought us sweatshop labor and forced abortions in Marianas, despite being a member of the “Christian” Coalition.
I’d love to see something from Howie on Paccione.
So Israeli’s, when their “translated” into English for blog entertainment purposes, sound like a Yiddishe Mama from the lower East Side?
With a dash of Mel Brooks, of course.
EPU,
‘EAR.
Pamela Atlas?
Color me skeptical. Pamela Mongoloid, maybe.
TRex- you are so funny… and talented… and mmm… different (????)!!!!
Sclomo’s a real person who worked for the Israeli Department of Defense. People are really named Schlomo.
http://www.israelvalley.com/ar.....o-dror-dod
The person who’s actually in TRex’s skit might really be named Sclomo.
T- at 8:18 pm - John Casper lays out the righteous smackdown..
I Concur. That was a doozy.
… although I can’t type Schlomo.
TRex,
I really do think you should be a “concerned” friend and blogger about all this and make sure that Pammykins gets a copy or link to your post.
She’s probably really, really bummed out right now, and I’m sure your words would help reduce the size of that hangover!
Another Ta for TRex!
Just off the phone from Germany:
“We are seeing and treating Lebanese civilians and sending many to BAMC burn unit (Texas)” CCAT missions to Lebanon.
This fucking bullshit has to stop.
Hello, M, and welcome to fdl. Nice to see you here. Have we met?
That’s not the lower East Side (at least not anymore), it’s Brooklyn/Queens/LawnGuyland.
TRex–
Redheads of the world unite!
Responding to your question on an earlier thread about object lust:
Shoes. High heels. Colored shoes. It all goes back to having to wear corrective and very ugly brown shoes to kindergarten when all the other girls had saddle shoes…tears… I keep the shoe collection out where I can see them. Shiny ones the best, reminding me that I am in fact a princess awaiting her knight.
Evening bags. A large collection which does see some use but is basically for ego. I was able to provide last minute purses for: the bride, her sister, my mother, and one other relative. One girl in the sixth grade had a purse for every day of the month. Not that we remember/envy [cough]. She moved to Nicaragua and married a Sandinista. I stayed here and developed a collection of beautiful evening bags. Well fate is fickle and all that.
Dear Israel-
We need to talk.
I was already howlin’
Think someone could put her on a camel and sneak her through the Egyptian border? Such restraint Mr. TRex. Wolcott may be sorely tempted anyway.
T at 5
You might look for at least five awesome entries from Mary. I’m starting a ‘clipboard’ file with her stuff. Emailed some Mary from yesterday to my niece, a public HS History/SocStud teacher. Says her kids from last yr hated Bush and the war. Hope Mary doesn’t mind others ’sharing’ her material (I use proper attribution, praise.) My niece, a bright and beautiful woman, and a caring teacher (rookie last year, soo….) is more politically aware/astute than I knew. Sent her some Mary for encouragement.
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Local TV ads Ned: attacks Lieberman record on a host of issues, ending w/universal health coverage “He NEVER worked for universal health care.”
Joe: Has Dodd go to bat. Basically rehash Bill’s stroking yesterday. “Good man, good Senator, good Dem”
Been said earlier, and a lot, but…
Welcome back M/VG!
This is the part of the story we are not being told:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ch=chomsky
Hey, HSAT, glad you had a phone call tonight. Every little bit helps. Sorry to hear this wider war is in the doc’s workplace.
Whoa.
Letterman just smacked Joe. “Clinton whips crowd into a frenzy. Lieberman comes on whips them into a coma.”
Wolcott
Jane
TRex
Updating my list of who not to get pissed off at me.
Hope 22
What’s CCAT?
Critical Care ? ?
Cosmo at 8 - excellent point that hasn’t been talked about enough on the internets or by the Lamont campaign: Lieberman endorsed McCain for president! And if you look at the same interview I think you get an example of Lieberman drooling at the prospect of a preemptive strike on Iraq.
It all goes back to having to wear corrective and very ugly brown shoes to kindergarten
OMG!! I had to wear those too!
One day at kindergarten, I took mine off and threw them over the playground fence and into a field. Then I took my brother’s and threw them into the field, too, so they couldn’t put them on me.
All they ever found was one of my brother’s lost pair. Mine were never seen again.
I was four. I was pissed. And I wasn’t going to take it anymore.
Teddy,
M is VG
xyz 34
“And if you look at the same interview I think you get an example of Lieberman drooling at the prospect of a preemptive strike on Iraq.”
Stephanie Miller is tawkin’ ’bout all those neocons having WARGASMS.
Teddy had those shoes, too, and can’t imagine they were still around fifteen years from the time I was four and rebelled against them and when you did, TRex!
Sometimes you only learn what you have in common with people when…. Pam brings you together! Thanks, TRex, for the memory.
TRex–
[egr]It all goes back to having to wear corrective and very ugly brown shoes to kindergarten
OMG!! I had to wear those too!
That explains why I couldn’t find them on alternate days.
Stephanie Miller is tawkin’ ’bout all those neocons having WARGASMS.
It may be suppressive and glib to say it, but I tuned in for momma; I stayed for voice monkey.
Who is this VG — or M — you speak of? Has she revealed herself, or is it just you chatelaines who reveal her new identity?
{{{ said the gay duke as he passed the joint to lotus }}}}
TRex:
I was four. I was pissed. And I wasn’t going to take it anymore.
Well that explains a lot don’t you think? :D
Thanks, Hope– I saw this @ Democracy Now and it is good to see it get out there.
Good evening. I have never, ever read her vlog and do not intend to. But thanks for the update on her, uh, nontravels.
OT, I am not going to be able to sleep tonight. I am on a diet. yup. And it has been going pretty well but tonight all I can think about is a bag of chips and French onion dip. I see see it, I can taste it, I can even smell the stuff. sorry, just personal trevails irking me right now.
For tonight I will not think about the terrible happenings in our world and work on what I can change here.
HSAT, glad you heard from germany. Just to hear his voice I know means a lot. thinking of you and sending good thoughts your way.
Now CNN is showing actual war footage from IRAQ. Holy Jeebus, I think the media is breakin free folks.
Shlomo responds to TRex!:
Click me or I may feel a little verklempt!
Well that explains a lot don’t you think? :D
I’ve never looked back.
Spokane Moderate 40
Oh, me too! Jim is a god.
But I do marvel at Steph’s ability to be so nice to crackpot callers. I want to jump through the radio and throttle them.
I was SO looking forward to PamMylar’s visit to the Holy City, stumbling on the cobbles wearing “cockroach killers” and her Elvira outfit…
PAM VLOG: “I’m here today in Mia Sharim–That’s MEE-yah Sha-REEM–which is, like, an exclusive gated community like in El-LAY and WEST-CHEST-ter –in Old Je-ROO-sa-LEM. And–Oh f88k! I chipped a nail! Maybe this old man with the hat knows where I can find a RITE AID.”
[PAM WALKS OVER, CLEAVAGE BOUNCING] “Excuse me. Can you tell me if there’s a RITE AID here?”
[HASSID RECOILS IN HORROR; MUMBLES SOMETHING UNINTELLIGIBLE]
“Well! Those foreigners are SO RUDE!”
Teddy, TRex, und moi [not moi the poster, me*, egr] *not me3, and not me to me :)
Corrective shoe wearers of the universe, unite!
You have nothing to lose but your ugly shoes!
Teddy, surely you are joshing us. No, not Josh Marshall. Our own Valley Girl, who served bravely under difficult conditions and who left in pain, has been posting as M until today, when a false “ValleyGirl” posted and we all exploded with welcome greetings. M then outed herself and said she was our VG, but the other one was an impostor. A strange story with a happy ending.
FDL Latenight: A TRex Joint.
Just one typo: the location is “lawn gisland”.
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M/VG - If ya still have visually impaired ‘Bat 21′? addy…
http://www.boston.com/news/glo.....the_light/
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tommorow never knows…
(sleep calls)
“Well! Those foreigners are SO RUDE!”
“…stoopitt anti-Semite” she mutters as the Hasid walks away.
GrandmaJ–
YOU CAN DO IT!!! We are rooting for you. Keep us posted.
Thank you all so much. You always buck me up. Sorry to ‘go off’ in the previous comment. I’m so angry I could spit nails.
CCAT= Critical Care Air Transport team
I feel angry and powerless. Terrible feeling.
But I do marvel at Steph’s ability to be so nice to crackpot callers. I want to jump through the radio and throttle them.
Agreed. I imagine you’ve got to have amazingly thick skin to do what she does. I teach, and I think I have thick skin. But I’m not sure I could keep my cool with talk radio callers.
There’s a story on the wires entitled “Fury at ‘deliberate’ bombing claim.” Annan’s taking heat for his remarks. Thought I’d point to this BBC story, which was the first I read on the incident. I’d rather it not, but it kinda sorta looks like it was deliberate to me.
Blank Kludge-Yes, always Mary…and Angie.
I was just hitting the stuff I didn’t have to think about…had a little grape juice w/ dinner ya know.
And TRex, this is a masterpiece.
Funny. As. Shit.
Oh yeah, Joined GA Roots. Hope to shake your hand soon.
Barukh atah Adonai, Elohaynu, melekh ha-olam.
(been to a few bar mitzvahs in my day)
Later on, ya’ll.
“But I’m not sure I could keep my cool with talk radio callers.”
Talk radio callers (and hosts for that matter) sometimes make me feel ashamed of being a carbon-based life form.
Hey, TRex, I just had to dig out this 12/25/05 comment by VG in response to a post by Jane:
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Jane, thanks for a look at how the “other half lives”– I mean, those conservative diva blogresses like “Pamela”!
She says “Wild man Dan over at the Gay Patriot advises me that after closing nominations for “conservative blogress diva,” which in his definition is a strong, talented woman blogger who commands the respect of men, that I am nominated blogress. Rooaaaaaar!.”
Geez, I guess all those boobs help her keep abreast of all of the ins and outs of the movement, and those pearly whites just say “bite me with the best news you’ve got”. Can I say something really really rude here? Just as an indulgence to cast off the fetters of polite public commentary for just once this year? Okay, I won’t wait for the okay. Gotta say it. The diva bimbo looks like she’s all crotch, and legless to boot. ;)
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Can it be? Pammykins and Katherine Harris were identical twins separated at birth? OMG!
So much for nuture over nature. *g*
BK- I will try to find Bat’s addy and send the link to him. M/VG
egregious
“I keep the shoe collection out where I can see them. Shiny ones the best, reminding me that I am in fact a princess awaiting her knight.”
I certainly hope you aren’t waiting for SIR GALAHAD to show up…
OH. My. God.
ROFLMAOSMB* SMB!!!! NOOooo.
*smb=Spill My Beer.
Good one M.
M
Saw the headline and he immediately popped into my vision.
JWR - looks pretty deliberate all right - especially considering that other UN staff have been killed and injured, as well as direct hits on Red Cross vehicles.
My guess is that when you take out observers, it suggests that you would prefer not to be observed. Also seems a comment on the proposed peace-keepers (or whatever) being proposed for southern Lebanon.
US President George W. Bush said after talks in Washington with Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki that additional US troops would deploy to Baghdad from other parts of Iraq over the coming weeks.
http://www.news.com.au/dailyte.....02,00.html
Even under the best of circumstances this would be a clumsy and artless bit of sarcasm. Under the circumstances we find oursevles in, it’s actually kind of gross.
Thanks BK- I really did spend a lot of time checking out her pix and following the links way back then…
According to Juan Cole (top couple of posts), Israel’s military command is not running very smoothly and the war planning was far too optimistic. Seems they underestimated fighting an enemy on their home turf. The Israelis were probably told to expect chocolates and flowers thrown at them, too.
M-
Soy milk meets nostrils!
TRex#50: Perfecto!
Talk radio callers (and hosts for that matter) sometimes make me feel ashamed of being a carbon-based life form.
If it’s any comfort, there are people like that in just about every walk of life. Hell, click on that Atlas Shrugs latest vlog post. Dat bitch crazy.
Hope at 53–
Rants about terrible things happening are automatically on topic. Extra bonus points if you can work in the word egregious :)
We are always eager to hear your unique perspective.
Rant away, my dear. Hope you will be seeing him soon, for your sake and his.
JERUSALEM, July 25 — Almost two weeks into its military assault on Hezbollah, Israel said Tuesday that it would occupy a strip inside southern Lebanon with ground troops until an international force could take its place. …
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07.....r=homepage
neurophius
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH
Thank you T and Sharkbabe from the balloon thread. :>)
TRex– you are very funny. I love the “we need to talk” on so many levels! Thank you.
Yeah, if war’s made upon the peacekeepers, who is left to keep the peace?
T -
Ha motzi lexhim min ha’aretz.
JWR - acc to report on cnn, Israeli bombs (air not land, so def. not Hizbollah) had almost hit the UN position 14 times today, UN general was on the phone all day to Israelis telling them to be more careful so it’s not surprising that Kofi Annan would consider this a purposeful attack.
Of course, we have Dems and Repubs on Larry King talking about how outrageous of Kofi to say such a thing since we “know” that Israel would “never” target them.
just like I heard a british commander on the Beeb while I was in the UK, say of a air attack on a school in Afghanistan “since we never use disproportionate force, we know that this was not disproportionate”
Orwell would be so very proud.
HSAT
We are so with You. I’m praying that ‘06 will get us “U.S.” back on track, and it will. Hang in there. We’re with Ya girl.
On Countdown, bush is appearing with Maliki to announce his first “joint solution” to the violence…
George: “Maliki: ‘EAR!”
Sad note from Sidon, Lebanon. A Canadian injured in a Israeli strike last week is expected to recover. He has yet to be told he lost seven members of his family in the strike.
Oh, Hope, my thoughts are with you. We are all angry and powerless. What stupidity is being served up in Lebanon. It’s hard to believe. I pray for your guy, and for the hapless civilians he’s bringing to Texas. NPR did an incredible piece on the military burn unit there a couple of days ago. It made me cry.
Occupation is a bi-atch and just plain wrong and an international force will be doomed according to many of those knowledgeable of the situation. It ain’t got no swing until the parties TALK.
George: “Maliki: ‘EAR!”
Still laughing.
Great writing Trex!
Email question to the Larry King show tonite: Why does US subsidize Lebannon 30 Million and sell weapons to Israel at the same time?
Personally, my first reaction when she canceled her trip was to doubt that it had ever existed. All the “interviews and meetings” stuff sounded like delusions of grandeur, and “the Israelis told me not to come over” was just way too pat.
So Israel’s answer may be “Hey, don’t blame me! You’re the one who believed that meshugeneh!”
BTW, I am following the more serious news. It is heartbreaking.
I was gonna go to Israel too but Dkos said no, my little lamb.
Susan @ 82
We are so angry and POWERFUL
And we are showing it in CT Lamont
look folks, i feel for all victims i am a mother too, but israelis are dying too! War sucks. IMO the israelis had to act. the us was to busy, the lebanese ignored it. Say what you want about israel and schlomo and yitchak, but sometimes you have to act in way people in ME society understand and that unfortunatly is in military terms.
Chris Cillizza chatz on WaPoO tomorrow at 11 eastern, questions accepted now:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01123.html
At Noon eastern, Dan Balz chatz about the Bellwether Project, the new “meta” coverage of the 2006 midterms:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00508.html
Question are accepted now, beat the Consultant Timezone by submitting yours the evening beforehand!
siun and jlr - From that BBC story I linked above: “A rescue team was also shelled as it tried to clear the rubble.”
This, from Reuters, seems to confirm: ICH.
Susan at 82
I wish he was bringing them to Texas. He’s in Germany, flying every other day to Iraq, but the last two days the flights have have been to Lebanon, then back to Germany. From Germany to Texas is a different unit. But I’m glad that these poor people are going to BAMC. It is one of the finest burn units in the country. I pray for them all. I’m crying right now as I type this. I hate this murderous crew in Washington more than I can say.
whoa, lo.
“but sometimes you have to act in way people in ME society understand and that unfortunatly is in military terms.”
Sometimes we and Israel could talk to others. ME society does not only do war– they lived in peace for a long, long, long time.
just my opinion, of course.
lo at 90
Check my link at 29
Sorry, but I don’t buy the “Israelis had to act” opinion. This is not the first time that Israeli forces have targeted Lebanon in the past several decades. Peace-making has not been an option for the hard liners in Israel, and I (get on my foil hat) suspect that this was why Rabin was assassinated, way back when.
angie -i don’t recall there ever being a long long peace post 1948 and israeli independence
Rassmussen says Bush’s approval dropped 5 points overnight:
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/008288.php
Billmon is a dose of reality, in a surreal world:
http://billmon.org/
lo 97 - and isn’t that a coincidence.
I seriously doubt the Secretary General of the United Nations would recklessly hurl allegations of intentional targetting of UN personnel. Kofi Annan does not engage in cowboy diplomacy.
(By the way, does anyone refer to Annan as “general”? Shouldn’t they, to be consistent?)
M i know it appears that israelis are “hard liners” but do you remember how you felt after 9/11 and what is was like to live in a constant state of fear. Israelis have lived that way since the begining day in day out. now, this doesn’t mean they can wage war with whomever they want whenever, but they do have some validity here.
HopeSAT 53
“CCAT= Critical Care Air Transport team”
Thanks.
“I feel angry and powerless. Terrible feeling.”
It is awful. I read today that the bombs we are sending Israel have depleted uranium. It is almost too much to bear.
lo –
Making peace with your enemies is also action — and to act in that way takes more courage than dropping bombs on civilians.
lo
in case you were unaware, Late Nite is where we get to have a little fun in SPITE of all the bad news of the day. it is a way of keeping sane for many of us here who are on bad news overload.
lo says:
“this doesn’t mean they can wage war with whomever they want whenever, but they do have some validity here.”
Sure, they have some validity…they were attacked by terrorists, and have a right to respond. But the disproportionate response–the killing of women and children, the bombing of hospitals, the wrecking of Lebanon’s infrastructure, the murder of UN peacekeepers–validity will only get you so far before it begins to wear thin.
Hi, M (VG)! Missed you, and missed the birthday party today. Happy B-day, Jane. TRex, you going out for food pretty soon?
I listened to NPR the other day when they were recording a 7year old Lebanese girl screaming in pain in the background–she lost two toes, and her whole body was pocked with schrapnel. I had to turn the radio off because I could only hear my own children screaming.
This morning I turned the radio off again because I couldn’t bear listening to Condi talking, as my grandmother would say, “like a sausage.” Another failed secret mystery tour. Why do they keep sending her anywhere?
btw, welcome back, M {the real Valley Girl} hope you find it hospitable here this time.
TeddySanFran
… although I can’t type Schlomo.
’sokay - I can’t type in fast forward, so that evens it out
Hope at 93.
I’m with you on the DC crowd. It’s been a long time (Richard Nixon) since a president could cause that kind of negative focused emotion in me. Stephanie Miller keeps claiming that she hates The Policies not The People. That was me, through Reagan, Bush I, but now I just hate the people. What they have done is just unforgiveable. I don’t know how you can get up in the morning and watch yourself shaving when people are dying for the lies you told.
The problem is the Prez and his gang of thugs, not the average conservative who lives down the block from me, or from you. This President has a lot to answer for, in the next life, if not in this one.
I think that one consequence of the election this fall is that people who support folks in the military are going to get elected. And it won’t be just John Kerry and a few others on both sides of the aisle who advocate for people like Mr. HSAT. He needs to know he is appreciated, and I think the next Congress will give him more of that feeling.
why are you all so quick to say israel doesn’t want peace??
what makes you think hamas, hezbollah or iran/syria want peace?
notice the huge difference in strategies-
israel targeting hezbolla strong points and yes many innocent lebanese in the cross fire. this is a terrible part of any war but
hezbollah targetting anything anywhere in israel just to destroy its people. there is a difference
No, there has not been peace between Israel and her neighbors since on or around 1948. Major wars on the continent were the result of colonialism and imperialism imposed by the West. (the Crusades did not help much either– but that is even older history)
9/11 was awful and it hurt, but it in no way excuses wanton violence and disregard for international law on our part. I am more afraid of our relinquishing our country to that path than anything else.
Perhaps we could ignore certain persons and return to our previously scheduled late night thread?
Maybe we could listen to a pretty song from the Roches?
http://www.kurtzman.com/I Gave My Love a Kerry.mp3
neurophius- thanks- It is a relief not be moderating comments- I had to pay attention to all of the bad stuff, the ugly and trivial comments, and really didn’t have time to engage in “normal” conversation. It did get to me after months and months of moderating 6-8 hours a day. And, it does seem on the whole that commenters (no one in particular) are now mostly back to being their usual thoughtful and civil selves. But, maybe that’s because I don’t look to see what spam and ugly comments have been culled by the moderators. Let me add that moderating is a tough job, and it does seem that folks do realize this now, a bit more than before. Kudos to the present mods!!!
ok suzanne #103 i can take a hint.
trex’s post was pretty funny. you can return to snark and wit, but just for the record it was others here that turned to convo to todays news not just the new kid on the block.
linkie didn’t work, Whig-guy
jlr says,
“Perhaps we could ignore certain persons and return to our previously scheduled late night thread?”
Oh, yeah.
Yo, TRex. When you gonna tell us who the “Ten Most Popular People In Heaven” are?
Or do we have to guess?
M/VG
nice to see ya here again no matter what name you use