
It’s a lazy summer, but for some reason I’ve been incredibly busy, so this is a good time to update some stories we’ve been following.
If you’ve seen the movie Matewan, the 1987 John Sayles movie the 1920’s organizing battles in the West Virginia coal fields, you’ll recall how the coal company tried to discourage the workers from organizing together by hiring only African Americans and Italians as strikebreakers. (If you haven’t seen Matewan, go rent or buy it as soon as you finish reading this.) Well the Battle of Blair Mountain in the town of Matewan may have occurred more than 85 years ago, but management’s tactics haven’t changed, especially in today’s union organizing wars in North Carolina’s Smithfield Packing company.
I’ve already written about how Smithfield has succeeded in illegally defeating the union in two elections and how a federal court recently found that Smithfield Packing Company had repeatedly broken the law in fighting the United Food and Commercial Workers union’s (UFCW) attempt to organize its pork-processing plant Washington Post reporter Darryl Fears published an article yesterday showing Smithfield continues to fan racial tensions and how the UFCW is fighting them. According to Marshall Ganz, a lecturer at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government. "The tension is as old as the hills."
"Who were the most violently anti-Chinese in San Francisco? The Irish. They felt their jobs were threatened." Ganz said it is no surprise that workers complained of Smithfield playing blacks and Latino against each other. In congressional testimony, court records and interviews, black employees said they were told that Latino hires were cheaper, while Latinos claimed they were told black people would replace them if they were deported. "Employers have played that game forever," Ganz said. "It’s kind of what unions have to overcome."
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Once upon a time, most Smithfield employees were black. But as the new century dawned, that changed. Now 47 percent of workers are Latino, compared with about 38 percent black, Smithfield officials said. Nearly all of the top supervisors are white. The kill floor is mostly filled with black employees, and the staff on the cutting line is mostly Latinos.
The union is organizing potlucks and other events to bring African American and Hispanic workers together, to show them that they’re dealing with the same issues:
When she finished eating dinner at the party, Lenora Bruce Bailey sat for a spell on a little wood porch facing Main Street. Two years ago, she had one of the best jobs around: boxing scraps of hog meat at the nearby packing plant. Then she got sick. "They terminated me," she said. "Took away my health insurance." In a nearby room, Raphael Abrego held up his purple and swollen right hand and wondered whether the same might happen to him. He was one of the better cutters on the fast-moving butcher line, but he slipped one day and injured his hand. "I can’t close it," he said in Spanish, trying to clench bloated fingers. Bailey is a black, native-born American. Abrego is a Latino immigrant. At Smithfield Packing Co., the largest meat-processing facility in the world, the two think of themselves as being in the same boat.
The company, of course, insists that it continues to act in good faith and is calling for yet another election. The union says it won’t be fooled again, and is calling on Smithfield to recognize the union if a majority of workers sign cards indicating that they want union representation:
Do not believe everything workers say, said company spokesman Dennis Pittman.
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"We are anxious to let our employees make the decision," said Pittman, who is spearheading a campaign to polish Smithfield’s image. But Gene Bruskin, the union’s campaign director for Smithfield, said the marketing plan is a trick that feels like deja vu. After the 1994 election, "they said they had changed and invited us to hold the ‘97 election," he said. "What followed were 150 unfair labor violations, according to the NLRB, and 10 more years of intimidating workers."
Meanwhile, the Wall St. Journal (paid subscription) has an update of the story I wrote last week about the National Labor Relations Board’s pending decision that could take away bargaining rights for nurses and millions of other workers. Anticipating the decision, unions are attempting to negotiate contract language guaranteeing the right to organize no matter how the NLRB rules.
Since April, the Health Professionals and Allied Employees union has signed contracts with nine New Jersey hospitals that guarantee the union status of 8,000 workers, regardless of the NLRB decisions. The hospitals agreed to "not assert or challenge the supervisor or nonsupervisory status" of any bargaining-unit members. Linda Wilson, a spokeswoman for Virtua Health, a health-care system in Marlton, N.J., said Virtua agreed not to challenge the status of any employees represented by HPAE over the course of the three-year contract because "it did not affect our ability to function appropriately and it does have an expiration date." Ann Twomey, president of HPAE, which represents 11,000 workers who are mostly nurses, said she believes the contract language protects up to 40% of the union’s members who perform scheduling duties some of the time.
In Vermont, the Vermont Federation of Nurses and Health Professionals reached a three-year contract this month with Fletcher Allen Health Care System in Burlington, Vt., stipulating that 1,500 unionized nurses won’t be considered supervisors "as defined or may be defined by the National Labor Relations Board."
Mike Noble, a spokesman for Fletcher Allen, said it agreed to the language because it "has no plans to challenge the supervisory status of any of the bargaining-unit employees during the term of this agreement." He added Fletcher Allen will review the coming NLRB decisions "and determine an appropriate reaction at that time."
Meanwhile, some employers are already starting to reclassify workers as supervisors who would be ineligable to join a union.
Aquarion Operating Services Co., a water-management-services company in Auburn, N.H., filed an NLRB petition in March to exclude eight maintenance foremen at a Bridgeport, Conn., location from a bargaining unit represented by the Teamsters, arguing the workers are supervisors. A judge ruled this month that three of those foremen are supervisors but five aren’t.
Natale Di Natale, a lawyer for Aquarion, said the company’s move wasn’t prompted by the pending NLRB decisions. However, the company is expected to appeal the ruling affecting the five foremen not classified as supervisors after an NLRB decision, which likely would favor the company’s position.
Teamsters local 145 in Stratford, Conn., which represents the workers, expects to appeal the classification of three foremen as supervisors. In a recent labor dispute, Virginia Mason Medical Center in Seattle questioned the union status of 600 nurses, and noted the definition of who was covered was under active discussion, referring to the pending NLRB cases. "We are going to watch and listen and let the NLRB make the determination," said Sarah Patterson, hospital administrator at Virginia Mason. Deborah Frye, director of labor relations for the Washington State Nurses Association, said she believes the hospital will challenge the union status of workers and has signaled its intent to do so.
And, of course, some workers don’t care about being supervisors as much as they care about losing their rights:
Some labor advocates argue workers, especially nurses, will leave the field if they lose their union-negotiated benefits and protections.
Some workers, themselves, say they would give up responsibilities overseeing others’ work in order to remain in the union. "If it meant the difference of being able to be in the union and have my union benefits and my contract, I would choose to stay with the union," said Cyndy Chan, a 35-year-old sheet-metal worker in Portland, Ore.
Finally, check here for a hilarious analysis of the whole problem by Stephan Colbert.
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ROOTS!
Fitz!
William Z. Foster !
Eugene V. Debs !
The RNC sends me junk mail. Help me make them regret it…
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/25/204258/606
Joe Hill!
This ruling could cut the nursing profession off at the knees. Considering the current shortage, and the fact that the average nurse is 48, when we are boomers and retiring, boomers will be needing care we will no longer be providing. Wonder what Lieberman’s position on this is?
And, EPUd at Bloviating…
In more depressing news — this evening, a UN observer post in S. Lebanon was bombed by Israel. 2 killed, 2 missing. Kofi Annan said it was “apparently deliberate” — CNN interviewed Israeli ambassador to UN who is demanding an apology because a comment like that cannot be allowed to stand.
Is Israel on this testosterone high because they know Bush will do whatever they tell him because of the pressure from the neocons, so they have us behind them no matter what? Seems to me that this is a Dick Cheney wet dream.
Amazing poll from Cafferty tonight — can’t find a link, but should be front page USAToday on WED — 79% of Americans think Israel has gone too far, 68% think their actions increase OUR risk for a terrorist attack.
Nurses are our friends.
how have the mass of working people of our country been made to stray, in their minds and imaginations, so far from the very floor under their very own feet that great-grandpa died for them to have – I blame tv
This is how it’s done Oklahoma style: Bar S Food Co., a local meat packing outfit says that any time labor attempts to organize, and gets too uppity, the company will up and move the plant. And nobody doubts them. Pretty effective worker terrorism. We cannot afford to absorb that kind of loss. We are a very poor state, second only to Mississippi, another rock solid, under the economic gun, “red-state”. We are also an anti-union, so called “right to work” state. Another more apt term might be “right to worker oppression” state. Workers unite!
t.v. is mind control.
that is why they fear the internet.
OT – Situation Room…
AMANPOUR: And he’s called for an investigation and you know he has called for a cease-fire in all these past days since this has exploded.
BLITZER: But he’s come up with a conclusion before the investigation.
AMANPOUR: He says apparently.
BLITZER: Yes, well, that’s serious …
AMANPOUR: He’s calling for an investigation.
BLITZER: But that’s a pretty serious accusation. It’s a …
AMANPOUR: Four of his people are dead.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA…..om.03.html
I hate to say it, but this very issue is why I am self-employed. Now owning your own small business presents a whole other fucked up set of issues….
Blitzer you suck.
Anyone have a link to his e-mail so I can tell it to him directly?
“Anyone have a link to his e-mail so I can tell it to him directly?”
lapdog@whitehouse.gov
gee. where is everybody?
shooogarp
I thought maybe this was one of those times when they accidently posted two front pages in rapid succession, but I can’t find a new one. Sometimes my computer is slow to recognize new threads.
They’ve got some kind of feedback form, shooogarp.
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?65
hate to burst your bubble , but blitzer is right. How dare kofi anan say israel killed those people on purpose. if he was truly interested in peace in that region, lashing out at israel is not what you do
OT:
I got EPU’d twice on this. :(
CTBob: Yew kin call me “LittleDog”.
Lotus: Blush. Thanks.
And while I’m here, thanks to you all for the very wonderful and intelligent company you give me every day.
This has been a tearful day. I finally gutted up and drove over to East Texas to pick up Romeo’s ashes. Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn.
Here’s a little something I can give back to you:
http://i108.photobucket.com/al…..es3wks.jpg
Great post Jordan. thanks for this important series.
anon,
Wolf Blitzer (born March 22, 1948 in Buffalo, New York) is a Jewish American journalist and author.
snip
His career in journalism began in 1972, in the Tel Aviv bureau of the Reuters news agency. He soon moved to Washington, D.C., where he was White House correspondent for The Jerusalem Post after a spell working for AIPAC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_Blitzer
Nuff said.
I love Matewan, though a colleague of mine got some heat for showing it in American history classes a few years ago.
My favorite part of the movie is when the Italians down tools, and march off singing Bandiera Rossa.
Viva il sciopero!
That the NLRB is getting ready to dig its sold-out hands into the supevisor issue is scary:
http://www.americanrightsatwor…..7_2006.cfm
The Taft-Hartley language is so vague and the approach of the majority is so tautalogically inescapable on this, you wonder who will not be ‘management’ in a few years?
“What supervisory judgment worth exercising, one must wonder, does not rest on ‘professional or technical skill or experience’?” That is Scalia speaking in the decision.
http://www.latimes.com/news/pr…..6492.story
After all the definitional gameplaying, if you’re a ditchdigger and you judge that a new coworker’s ability at bracing a trench wall is deficient, and the boss looks at the lousy bracing and tells the new worker to get out of the trench, then you have made a ‘recommendaton’ and you have exercised your ‘professional’ judgment as a profession ditchdigger, so, management for you.
What I can’t understand is the blindness to real conflict of interest that will occur. Implicit in the management designation (if I remember right) is that your look at everything from company ownership viewpoint 100%. But the way the NLRB is interpreting the decision, quality control people, inspectors, quality assurance people (which includes nurses) will be first ones to be managementized. You don’t have to be a working stiff to raise an eyebrow at that.
Of course the Democrats, think DLC, third-way, NAFTA, CAFTA, etc., are not much better on union organizing and labor issues than are the Republicans. This from a yellow-dog Demo. Sadly.
If you are accidently killing a LOT of innocent people. STOP. BOMBING.
Anyone have a link where there was a van that was targeted on purpose by the Israelis? I am too mad to look for it myself.
The killing is bumming me out and Wolf’s condescending questions in an attempt to whitewash the wholesale destruction of Lebannon is alarming.
Viva lo sciopero!
(sorry, can’t help it)
anon — CNN has been carrying this story for a few hours. Not all the facts are in, but it appears the UN post had well known coordinates and the UN personnel had been warning/advising the Israelis about how close rounds were coming. Then they got hit. Annan’s conclusion may or may not turn out to be correct, but it’s not implausible that the information he has would suggest at least reckless disregard for life.
It’s helful to recall that Annan’s peacekeeping UN forces did not start the hostilities; they just got caught in the middle. So to imply that Annan is undermining peace, when he has been calling for a suspensionof hostilities for several days, strikes me as bit “odd.”
Viva lo punaise!
Oklahoma kiddo #23: you made a mistake in writing “think DLC.” Those two words don’t belong together. I read in the news that the DLC is having its annual worryfest, and doing the same empty whining and posturing they have been doing for the last HOW MANY? years. I swear upon a stack of Holy Books of your choice. The actually had a panel on how the Democrats should ‘look more religious” and they worred in public, out loud in public, about what they should do to ‘look strong on national security.’
I haven’t read one news story about one speaker who actually got up and said something about what he/she beleived substantively about anything… religion, security,… anything.
I don’t want to believe because I don’t want to believe the establishment core of the party is so hopeless. But what can you say?
moderators: I see the comment I was responding to left the scene, and so did mine. I’m cool with that. Thanks.
blitzer is not white washing anything. especially with christian amanpour around. thank god for him and larry king. the purpose for me to watch the news is to hear both sides. CNN and msnbc have not lived up to that on this crisis to well. if i wanted one sided coverage i would stick to fox- but thats unbearable!
Matewan…that movie made a huge impression on me. Thanks as always for a great post.
in #22 -I meant majority of the Supremes
The Taft-Hartley language is so vague and the approach of the majority of the *Supreme Court* is so tautalogically inescapable on this, you wonder who will not be ‘management’ in a few years?
My wife’s ancestors were miners in Utah after the turn of the century. They came from Finland; the mine companies recruited workers from different countries so they wouldn’t have a common language, to impede union organizing. They also would recruit from a new country after a mine disaster, so they wouldn’t hear about it from the surviving miners and relatives of the others.
Oh, and Matewan is a truly excellent film.
Slightly OT, but another way to repeal the estate tax. I wonder if all the newly minted high class supervisors among us will get such breaks in the future?
http://economistsview.typepad……the_e.html
Don’t Like the Estate Tax? Don’t Enforce It
Maybe the problem with our current leadership is that many of the people in charge, people who grew up with wealth, power, and prestige, are used to getting their own way. They cannot stand or accept being told they can’t do what they want to do, so they just find a way to do it anyway. This is from A Taxing Matter:
If you can’t cut the estate tax, cut the enforcement team, by Linda M Beale: The New York Times carried an interesting article on a scoop based on internal documents at the IRS. See David Cay Johnston, IRS Will Cut Tax Lawyers Who Audit the Richest: “The IRS plans to cut the jobs of 157 of the agency’s 345 estate tax lawyers, plus 17 support personnel, in less than 70 days.”
you matewan a see that movie
anon,
Amanpour has been in more war zones than Blitzr’s had birthdays. Blitzer used to work for The Jerusalem Post after a spell working for AIPAC. Uh huh, fair and balanced that Wolfie.
Once on a night flight from Europe to the U.S. there was one person who kept her light on all night, working, while the rest of us were trying to sleep.
After we landed, I saw who it was: Amanpour. She literally works day and night. Oh, and she graciously gave her seat on the shuttle bus to my elderly mother.
wesgpc at 27: The DLC reminds me of a comedian’s routine about dating advice:
“Remember, the thing women value most is sincerity. If you can fake that, you can get them to do anything!”
I manatee it, punaise!
Redshift #32 -
Where in Utah? Curious.
oh and i believe amanpor’s husband is palestinian, fair and balanced is she uh huh
The responsibility for the horror that is the Middle East lies in the lap of one man. George W. Bush. The Israeli military is only doing what the U.S. government is letting them do. What’s going on in Lebanon is as un-necessary as was the invasion of Iraq.
This “anon” suddenly appears and is very much on one side, the side that is bombing civilian targets. Just sayin’.
we’re back to the real problems and the roadblock for progressive success
it’s a war of words
corporate America has found a way to villify the union and what they stand for.
corporate America has actually made it so that the middle class believe unions are bad for the economy
no kidding, this is true
there’s really only one method to turn that sentinent around, we have to win the war of words.
a union the company that sells the wares of laborers and bargains for the correct markey pricee for the value of these goods
corporations don’t want to bargain for these goods, they want to set the price themselves
a union forces them to bargain and strile the best deal they can, the laborers will in turn bargain for the best deal that it can get.
that’s all a union is, a forum that creates a collective so the laborers can bargain for the true value of their product.
Former Lieberman staffer endorses Lamont -
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006…..commenttop
My dear “anon”,
Amanpour—kindly note the correct spelling–is married to Jamie Rubin. Does that strike you as a Palestinian name?
Jordan, to what extent do you think a Dem controlled Congress could reverse these anti-labor trends? I worry that too many Dems are also bought and paid for by corporate influence.
Anybody who questions the value of unions should look at what has happened to Information Technology workers. Currently no computer programmers belong to Unions. That is why over a half million of us have lost our carreers. That is why enrollment in Computer Science is over half of what it was 6-7 years ago. Too many of us computer dorks’ heads were filled with libertarian horseshit and visions of the now nonexistant corporate welfare state until was too late.
Our jobs have been decimated by the likes of Harris Miller and his Corporate lobbying powerhouse the Information Technology Association of America. Harris Miller before he became the Darth Vader of Global Labor Arbitrage specialized in busting farmworker unions. Miller’s tactics are to rewrite immigration laws so pay scale busting indebtured servant labor, if not slave labor, could be imported into the country. Harris Miller almost single handedly invented the dreaded and evil H1-B and L1 visa programs.
And yes I am talking about the same Harris Miller who had the blessing of the DLC and Charles Schummer to run for the Democratic Senate nomination in Virginia. Thank God James Webb came out of nowhere and kicked Miller’s corrupt blood money millionaire ass.
If you want to know more about the H1-B/L1 visa programs or about the unionizing IT workers
Check out these websites.
http://modernpatriot.blogspot.com/
http://www.programmersguild.org/
http://www.washtech.org/
anon,
“oh and i believe amanpor’s husband is palestinian, fair and balanced is she uh huh”
LOL Put in another quarter and try again ; )
James Philip “Jamie” Rubin (born 1960 in New York City), is former assistant under President Clinton and journalist.
OT– jest tuned into cspan 2 and bill and joe’s show on now– jane and spazeboy– yer invited now!
anon 42 -
Amanpour’s husband is Jamie Rubin, who worked in the Clinton Administration.
egregious 38 – what a great anecdote!
Anon 42
Amanpour’s husband Palestinian? HAHAHAHAHA!
He’s Jamie Rubin, former deputy Secretary of State. They met at Brown U, if I recall correctly.
FWIW, I’m pretty sure he’s Jewish.
anon.- Amanpour’s husband is James Rubin. An American who was the spokesman for the Clinton state dept. She is of Persian descent. Persians aren’t Arabs.
egregious- i’m not a “troll”, if that is what you are suggesting. I just have a different opinion of the ME than most comments here. “different” opinions make for good discusions. I have always thought the comments here to be intelligent and witty. one lone voice that doesn’t see israel as the bad guys should not exclude me from the convo.
wesgpc’s votinglinks,
[…]
and they worred in public, out loud in public, about what they should do to ‘look strong on national security.’
[…]
Going to war, occupying and completely destroying a country that was not a threat, had no WMD’s, did not attack us and were not involved with 9/11 does not make those in favor of it look strong. It makes them look like the stupid butchers that they are.
Dems should quit talking about how to clean up the Republican mess until after they make clear the above mentioned statement to enough people to show the door to the Republicans.
Sad to say, egregious, but we have a segment of this country (U.S.) that believes arabs, the U.N., and liberals (basically anyone to the right of w-bush) deserve to be bombed.
This is what triangulating to the right will get you.
Oh well. :)
ifthethunderdontgetya
I manatee it…
did you write that on porpoise? you otter know better. whale, it must have been a fluke.
Different informed opinions make for good discussions.
Oh, why am I bothering?
Jamie Rubin was born in NYC in 1960.
Anon – What I am trying to illustrate here (maybe not doing that good of job) is that the American MSM generally (note generally) asks the tough questions on only the Arab/Palestenian side of the issue and generally give Israel a free pass and actively defends their actions. When was the last time you EVER heard or saw a MSM correspondent defend an action by Hezzbolah or Hamas, etc.? Like never. I just sayin’…
In reality they are both wrong to target civilians and the track record is not good on both sides. Yet only one side is portrayed as terrorists.
“During Operation “Grapes of Wrath”, warnings given by Israel and later by Hizbullah to Lebanese and Israeli civilians appear to have been intended to spread panic among the civilian populations rather than to ensure their safety. Unlawful IDF attacks described in this report include an attack on an ambulance carrying civilians, killing six of them; an attack on a house in upper Nabatiyya that killed nine civilians; and the attack on the UN compound at Qana that killed 102 civilians. Hizbullah unlawfully launched rocket attacks on populated areas in northern Israel wounding many civilians.”
http://web.amnesty.org/library…..E150421996
Quit yur floundering, punaise. I made that comment for the halibut.
1,200 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND …
Anon:
“oh and i believe amanpor’s husband is Palestinian” and that makes her more knowledgeable and more sensitive to the sufferin of the common folks over there than any of the AIPAC funded and intimidated talkin’ heads anywhere in the US. Get outta my yard with this bullshit about “balance” in reportin when it comes from someone personally knowledgeable on the subject…
The Israelis have attacked and killed US sailors on US ships in international waters, they have run over young women with tanks, they have killed UN observers and volunteer aide workers and, of course they have bombed civilian women and children indiscriminately for years…so “bullshit” on “fair and balanced” when it comes to reporting of this conflict and bullshit on you too you fascist troll.
KEEP THE FAITH AND GETCHER ASS TO IRAQ!!
Now on cspan2 footage of Maxine and Ned in New Haven.
Jordan, The details of our current state of union news is something I look forward to hearing about here every week. Sure looks like (big surprise) the best fighting tool Big Corp. has in its arsenal are a bunch of lawyers. Keep feeding the pups so we are prepared to integrate workers rights in the Master Plan of the Rabid Lambs…Starting with a majority in both houses! What union label?
shooogarp at 40: They were in Scofield at first (after the big disaster); her great-grandfather and grandfather stayed in that area, some of their brothers went to Wyoming and at least one was at Kennecott Copper Mine.
“Meanwhile, some employers are already starting to reclassify workers as supervisors who would be ineligable to join a union.”
1. yep, and I believe Mr. Barab warned of such a possibility. Looks like his concerns, unfortunately, are coming true.
2. Someone up above mentioned how a packing company would threaten to relocate if workers tried to organize. This tactic, I think, has also been tried on occasion with existing unions during contract talks. I “think” the operative phrase is “runaway plant”. I think there can be some NLRB violations involved, under certain circumstances. But Mr. barab would know alot more about that. Often it’s an idle threat….the bigger the company is, the harder it is to suddenly relocate. But it understandably will scare many workers.
Ghostman
What OFG said in 55.
Anon: first a small housekeeping item. Would you mind attaching a number or additional letter or symbol to your nom de plume, so that when you post in the future, we know it’s you? Thanks.
I didn’t say you were a troll. I noted that you abruptly appeared, wanted to post anonymously, and were clearly on one side of a contraversial issue. I don’t agree with your position, but I am willing to listen to what you have to say.
ifthethunderdontgetya:
gotta go. seal ate her!
i stand corrected, sorry. i just googled her too……blushing. she is from iran i knew she had some ME connection will not comment on anything i am not 100% positive of in future (without googling first)
Oilfieldguy #55: personally, I think, given the way things are going, if the Dems could manage to not look 100% stupid on foreign policy, that would really catch the public eye. Then they could work their way from their to “not-impotent”, all the way up to strong.
Of course, that would actually require saying something of substance. That has not been the establishment way lately, either Dem or GOP.
Here’s another free article about the pending NLRB matters.
And thanks for the reminder to get Matewan on my movie list.
Average prices for regular gasoline for 7/25/06 in 50 states plus DC
$3.00 plus 16 states
$2.90 plus 25 states
$2.80 plus 10 states
National average $2.997
Highest average price: Hawaii $3.358
Lowest average price: South Carolina $2.813
For those following events in Connecticut, the average there is $3.226 today. This is the 2nd highest price in the East. DC is a whisker higher at $3.228
Oil prices:
Nymex Crude Future $73.58, down $.17
Dated Brent Spot $73.11, down $.19
WTI Cushing Spot $73.40, down $1.25
Gas prices hover at the $3.00 mark. Oil prices in the absence of further speculative pressure have declined somewhat but are still well north of $70. Shorter version: Prices remain high with some drift.
http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp
http://www.bloomberg.com/marke…..rices.html
anon -
I’ve said a lot of incorrect things here too, which made me blush a deep tomato red. Didn’t mean to sound harsh.
Okay, so I went to Netflix to order the flick…I typed in Matewan and the first match was Marewan and the second match was…are you ready for this…The Madness of King George.
Maxine and Ned on CSPAN-2 now
Anon,
When we get to these types of issues here at the Lake, we back off the right-wrong posture we take during our political discussions.
I believe I represent the collective in saying that we know that going down the path of “israel’s right — no they just get the good press — arabs are terrorists” things just degenerate too fast into name calling and animosity.
We prefer to look at things strategically — such as my comment about Israel getting its testosterone on because they have such strong support from the current administration — how this admin’s approach to foreign policy leads to crises like this, what our role as a nation is in the world, and what can stop the madness.
I read the news today, oh boy.
I’m feeling very sad tonight. Never thought that America would last forever as a leader, but frankly, I never thought I would see it turn into a third world country in my lifetime.
I think we’re solidly on that path. I’ve got a good 35 years left in me.
You see the news was rather sad.
About one man who tried to make a difference in Afghanistan, who was murdered this Sunday.
I wrote a diary about it. You can read it at Daily Kos or at our Kos-like blog for Canadian Progressives called The Next Agenda.
He wasn’t important. Bush will never be told that he died.
But he lived. And he died.
And that made me pissed.
And I hope you’ll take the time to find out why.
anon,
Actually, I agree with you somewhat. I don’t believe in conclusions without proof. But don’t tell me Blitzer doesn’t have a bias. My business partner is Jewish by the way.
Jordan:
Thanks so much for your posts on labor issues.
I grew up in a “Management” family and I own a small business now, but I am so pro-union I surprise myself sometimes.
I actually learned about some of the violence against strikers in the last century in a small-town Texas public high school, and it made a huge impression on me.
I don’t see how anyone can read about the catfish processors in Molly Ivins’ “Bushwhacked” and not see how desperately we need a strong labor movement.
That was where I learned that Bush placed as the undersecretary of Labor (Solicitor General) the anti-union lawyer, Eugene Scalia (yes, THAT Scalia).
Daschle and the Dems weren’t going to confirm him, so Bush appointed him in a recess appointment. Sigh.
As I recall, most labor actions the Dept of Labor had been working on came to a screeching halt.
Unions, IMO, suffer from really bad PR. Lobbyists shortcircuit the democratic process by bypassing voters and going straight to elected officials. Elected officials must get elected. Who is talking to the voters? Ad campaigns tarnish progressive candidates for being in the pocket of big Union lobbyists. It is couched in such a negative way to cause resentment against officials trying to improve the middle class. ALL unions should pony up a fund and get the best agency available to run a continuous “public awareness” campaign on the benefits of unions. There are too many folks talking to too few folks. Unions are suffering an existential threat that will not go away without educating the public to whom politicians are truly beholden to. Change public perception and the Politicians will flip warp speed.
Cosmo@46: Good find and good news.
thunder at 56
Arabs, the United Nations, and liberals.
Sounds like a terrible jeopardy question.
Or the first people to go to Camp Halliburton, the $300,000,000 prison camps for slave labor. Your tax dollars at work. Arbeit Macht Frei can be translated as work for free. Workers who cost nothing can lead to lovely profits. It has already been proposed that the fence between the US and Mexico be built by undocumented immigrants who are imprisoned and used for free labor.
Redshift -
I am a photographer by trade and love to photograph old ghost towns and have photographed Scofield many times. I especially enjoy the very moving cemetery there with so many headstones from the mine disaster there.
One of my closest friend’s family has a little cabin close to there on 40 acres. No electricity, just gas lamps and a wood burning stove.
http://ghosttowns.com/
Check out this site. Go to Utah and then find alphabetically.
Jordan — one of the nightmares we have to face is how long it will take to remove from office not just the appointed regulators (in this case, the NLRB Board members), but also senior staff that have been promoted but still in protected civil service positions. This problem will permeate all of the federal regulatory agencies for years, not just NLRB. Never practiced labor law, so can’t recall which labor positions are pleasure versus term appointments, and what other rules might slow down a turnover if/when a labor sympathetic Dem regains the WH. Anyone have a general idea wrt to the NLRB?
Thanks Jordan – exceptional post!
My late reporter Dad interviewed Saul Alinsky and admired him so much he ended up in a nasty quarrel with his managing editor at the time. Alinsky heard about the dust-up after our family moved on when Dad joined the old Louisville Courier Journal. Alinsky tracked Dad down and sent him a handwritten thank you letter and some cigars.
They corresponded off and on for years. Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” is likely still in print – or so I hope – for it is a timeless classic – and certainly available in public libraries. Highly recommend this book for Firepups interested in tried and true fundamental tenets of organizing labor and/or political grass roots campaigns.
yes, thanks to Jordan for these aboslutely great posts on a neglected topic. I always look forward to the Tuesday afternoon labor post on FDL.
The long knives are out to get Condi. So says Insight mag. Led by Newt Gingrich, Richard Perle and the Veep’s office. They want her to be more neoconnish. I don’t necessarily put much store in Insight, but if true, I cannot find it within to feel a bit sorry for the Secretary of State. Fact of the matter is, I’d really, I mean really, like to see Condi’s rice fried. But good.
Excuse if this is old news, but the Senate voted to make transporting minors for abortion a crime.
Including clergy. One year in jail. Wonder how dear Joe voted.
Face it folks Bushco has a one, two, three punch planned to wipe out two strong pillars of the Democratic party, the college educated middle class Nursing and Teachers unions. The next step is to wipe out their jobs and middle class security.
This is really part of Rove’s vision for multi-generational dominance by the Republican party.
First step: The NLRB ruling making first tier supervisors and department heads inelligible for union membership. This is a clear attempt make union expansion impossible and hopefully bust the existing unions.
Second Step: Allow the national Hospital chains and school district associations to declare that there are critical nationwide shortages of qualified nurses and teachers, especially math and science teachers. When in fact the only shortages are quality nurses and teachers willing to work for far below market payscale, with no seniority or job security and lousy benefits.
Third Step: Radically expand existing non-immigrant visa programs like the current H1-B and L1 to include Teachers and Healthcare providers. Don’t laugh, just take a look at the proposed Pence-Hutchinson Immigration Bill that Bushco is backing.
Next thing you know the US is be flood with hundreds of thousand of indebtured servants making up to half of US workers taking the jobs of US nurses and teachers.
Doubt this is not Bushco’s plan???? Take a look at what immigration lawyers are already trying to do with the existing H1-B program that Bushco thinks should be the model for their vision of Global Labor Arbitrage and a cornerstone of the Pence-Hutchinson immigration bill.
Math and Science teachers imported by the Clark County Nevada school district from the Phillipines and payed on $27,000 a year.
http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/…..achers.txt
Angie: Ned makes campaigning look so easy. He is a man who knows who he is and what he wants. He is intelligent and answers every question coming at him positively. I really really like him.
Too bad he makes a lousy cup of coffee.
Bionic, I read your story.
This is just so sad. All I can say, and this links your story to Jordan’s post, is power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
oklahoma @ 89:
I suspect the future belongs to Condi, not Newt, Dick and Dick.
Way OT…sorry…
After 8 hrs of browser crashing on the shores of the Lake, but nowhere else, and using OS 9 browsers getting in….learning how to ‘ping’ a site in Terminal…finally ‘cleared cache’. Open Sesame.
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I see M is VG?
M – you still have that sight impaired addy – Bat 21/42?
This is in today’s Globe, and I thought….
http://www.boston.com/news/glo…..the_light/
…”“Not seeing is a drag, but keeping one’s visual memory alive is crucial,” continues Goldring, a senior fellow at MIT’s Center for Advanced Visual Studies and a poet and artist who has described her own battle with blindness in moving, often harrowing detail.
So far, according to Goldring, feedback from a test group that has used the new device — formally known as a Retinal Imaging Machine Vision System, or RIMVS — has been “extremely encouraging.”
The machine is a modified video projector that borrows technologically from the scanning laser op h thalmoscope (SLO), a sophisticated diagnostic tool used to measure retina function. The SLO allows an ophthalmologist to project an image directly onto a patient’s retina — the layer of light-sensitive nerve tissue covering the back of the eyeball — to determine its functionality.:…
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Also wonder about the possiblity of a ‘reverse-touch-screen’ ala tablet…with ‘bubble’ tech raising the screen into Braille.
it’s wonderful to watch this, ccmask, campaigning at a block party! he’s real and smart.
I just visited some people from Carbon County this weekend.
Nice to see this news on the Tribune front page while I was there:
egregious – Lieberman voted “Nay,” although 14 Dems voted “Yay.”
They were:
Bayh
Byrd
Carper
Conrad
Dorgan
Inouye
Johnson
Kohl
Landrieu
Nelson
Nelson
Pryor
Reid
Salazar
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anon=lo (cause thats how i’m feeling right now)
that should clear up the confusion.
“When was the last time you EVER heard or saw a MSM correspondent defend an action by Hezzbolah or Hamas, etc.? Like never. I just sayin’…”- you must be kidding!!!
look i feel bad for the author of this post to talk about ot things. But its a convo i need to have with a blog i usually agree with. I feel fdl does not devote enough posts to this issue but i understand it is not their area of expertise.
It is and I’m so glad you told me it was on. He has a good sense of humor and he doesn’t look like he’s kiss Bush.
me to me at 44: I agree, it’s a big problem. Before I met Ms. Redshift, the only thing I had ever heard about unions was the sitcom stereotype of the guy sitting around doing nothing, saying “union rules say I gotta be here.” We’ve got a lot of work to do.
#91: part of the reason the plan has been so successtul is that BushCo has been able to keep the hurt put on most people very diffuse, and with few traces back to BushCo hands. But I wonder how long that can go on? If the NLRB does go ahead and tell companies the sky’s the lmit on the supervisorial reassignment, then thousands of people will see themselves getting all the costs and none of the benefits of management, on BushCo’s watch.
Of course, helps to have an opposition party that points things like this out…
egregious — re the abortion vote, I didn’t know anything like that was on deck. Perhaps this vote is why Lieberman cancelled today’s events? Looks like there were over a dozen Dem’s who voted for this bill. Wow.
There was also a good union movie with Sally Field, I think but I don’t remember the name.
Go Ned!
Please, please somebody remind him that it is Mahmoud Abbas not Mahmous Abbad– he did it twice!
ps– no other suggestions. he’s really good.
Yes they voted to make giving a ride for a minor to go get her medical care in the state of her choice illegal- if you are female and under 18 it is illegal for someone to help you travel, you belong to your father until you are 18 and you have no rights. No mention of transporting males from one state to another to have sex( spring break anyone?) the Dems are soo stupid to let the reps do them again with one of their ridiculous bills and this crap passed!
Norma Rae?
Google “Ludlow massacre”.
lo,
“look i feel bad for the author of this post to talk about ot things. But its a convo i need to have with a blog i usually agree with. I feel fdl does not devote enough posts to this issue but i understand it is not their area of expertise.”
I’ve been at FDL since I think October of last year. In my experience the comments section has always been either on topic (the post), breaking news, and other such current events. In other words, multiple on-going conversations in the comments section on different topics.
J Donne…94
“I suspect the future belongs to Condi…”
I surely do hope not.
ccmask – 104
Norma Rae – 1979 – Sally Fields won an Oscar for her performance.
Well lo, if you want to talk about israel and bombing (and guilt), head on over to Sadly, No!, because they are just starting up another thread on the topic.
I’m not going to walk on Jordan’s fine post again.
Unfortunately, Union like Liberal appears to have been successfully “swiftboated” as a word that many Americans once used with pride, and as a concept that was integral to their very lives.
While the word/concept “Liberal” has been somewhat successfully morphed and resuscitated into the word/concept “Progressive”, alas no such joy has yet rescued “Union”.
Oh how soon we Americans forget! :-(
Many “white-collar” Americans are totally unaware that almost all of their work-related rights, benefits, and yes, even freedoms were paid for by “blue-collar” Union blood, sweat and tears.
And as these work rights, benefits and freedoms continue to be diminished or disappear outright through unfettered
totalitarian and autocraticManagement power, a bewildering set of thoughts often dawns on us (both white and blue collar):Where is my power? Where are my alliances? Don’t we have a community of interests? Why do I speak only with one voice?
Indeed, how soon we do forget!
Re: the transport of minors bill –
So…Joe votes to allow hospitals to refuse to offer Plan B, but votes no to make transport of minors across state lines a crime…think he’s in cahoots with the cab companies???
to what extent do you think a Dem controlled Congress could reverse these anti-labor trends? I worry that too many Dems are also bought and paid for by corporate influence.
It depends on which Democrats and how many are actually progressive Democrats. Some have no appreciation for the labor movement even though the Democratic party wouldn’t even be a shodow of its sorry self without labor.
Five Democratic Senators voted to repeal OSHA’s ergonomics standard in 2001 (Landrieu, Baucus and Lincoln are still around).
It partially depends on how much politicians credit labor for their election, which is partly dependent on labor’s strenth — which makes it much more important that we all support unions any way we can. They certainly have their problems, but on the whole, they’re still the strongest progressive force in this country.
llamajockey #90 –
I beg to differ — there is a genuine nursing shortage now and it will get worse very soon. We simply are not graduating enough newly-educated nurses to fill up the massive numbers leaving because of age, or intolerable working conditions in which they are expected to take responsibility for FAR too many patients, and they know they could miss something because of the workload and a patient would die.
These are the best, the conscientious nurses that burn out.
This issue with this pending ruling is this WRT nursing —
On each shift, one of the nurses is designated as a “charge nurse” or a “resource nurse” — he or she is the one that keeps track of assignments, fights for the unit when a supervisor wants to give them a new admission and they just got 3 and are swamped, and runs interference with docs.
They may get a buck an hour for that, while carrying their own patient load in most cases. They have no authority to hire, fire, discipline (other than leaving a message for the nurse manager), or do anything else that would be normally considered a supervisory duty. They are just the “go to” person for that shift on that unit.
Since this role is typically rotated among the staff members, this is why, if Bush gets his way, the nurses will literally be cut off at the knees.
Telling a less qualified assistant such as a nurse’s aid what a patient needs to have done is not “supervising” — it is delegating — a very legal distinction.
Llamajockey – I have a bit of a different take on immigration as a solution for shortages of healthcare workers and teachers. The shortage of healthcare workers will be – actually already is – a worldwide phenomenon. The demand for labour is going to way outstrip the supply in health as well as other fields like trades and public service. Hospitals and other healthcare providers are going to have to make those jobs attractive if they are going to compete internationally for these workers.
Washington – US congressional Democrats voiced alarm on Tuesday about Iraq’s denunciation of Israel in the Mideast conflict, and some said Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki’s upcoming address to Congress should be cancelled unless he apologises.
A group of House of Representatives Democrats was circulating a letter to House Speaker Dennis Hastert urging the Illinois Republican to secure an apology from Maliki or cancel the address on Wednesday to a joint meeting of Congress.
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php…..p;set_id=6
llamajockey at 49:
Right-on! From another 25 year IT techie!
Anne: That’s it. A great movie.
Jordan, this is one reason why I hope Howie Klein will post a feature here about Angie Paccione in Colorado’s 4th District (THE FIGHTING FOURTH!!)
Getting Marilyn Musgrave away from Congress would be a huge gift to labor and justice.
oklahoma @ 110:
Condi was a Democrat while in graduate school at The University of Denver (not long ago incidentally). A short while later she became a Kissingeresque realist. Moments later she morphed into a neocon. Now that the neocons are on the ropes, she has settled–temporarily I suspect–on a policy of wait and see. She rises at five to pump iron. She is young. Imbeciles claim to adore her. We have not heard the last of Condi.
Mad Dogs – HEAR, HEAR!
And on a brighter other hand – basic organizing skills appear to be well and live and evolving within the netroots – don’t cha agree?
Anne Holliday…111
Sally Fields…a ton of talent. One of my faves. “Norma Rae”…excellent flick!
ccmask -
It’s so funny you should mention Norma Rae, because lately I’ve been thinking Maura and Jane and Christy are like her… the scene especially at the factory when she stands atop a machine, holding the sign “UNION”, turning around and around, until everything comes to a dead standstill.
I almost mentioned it earlier today, as a matter of fact. Great movie.
Anybody who doubts the need for middle class labor unions should look at what has happened to Information Technology workers in this country.
Us computer folk’s heads were filled with too much libertarian horseshit and vision of outdated non-existant corporate welfare. We did not wake up until way too late. Now over a half a million of us have lost our careers or are seriously underemployed. The future is so bleak that enrollment in computer science programs is less than half of what it was at its peak 6-7 years ago.
And do not forget the architect of the H1-B and L1 visa programs that are primary pillars of the Global Labor Arbitrage that has destroyed our jobs was none other that Harris Millier of the Corporate lobby powerhouse Information Technology Association of America. Before he single handedly help cripple the US high tech industry, Harris Miller was an immigration lawyer/lobbyist hired gun working on behalf of Big Agra-Business’s attempts to break farm worker unions in the 1980’s.
The same Harris Miller who the DLC and Chuck Schummer backed for the Democratic Senate nomination for Virginia. Thank God pissed off techies helped Jim Webb kick his ass.
See http://modernpatriot.blogspot.com/
If you want to know about the attempts to unionize Information Technology workers or why the H1-B and L1 visa programs are so corrupt and why the Democratic party is almost just a much to blame as the Rethuglicans.
Please visit these sites:
http://www.programmersguild.org/
http://www.washtech.org/
http://www.itpaa.org/
and especially Professor Norman Matloff archive of writings on the H1-B and L1 visa programs and their effect on the job status of millions of US technology workers and engineers
http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/Archive/
Redshift: NE Minn iron ore mines same story…miners got blacklisted for trying to organize & couldn’t get a job at any other mine from Mich to the west. Lots of Finns & other Scandinavians, Italian, Polish etc were early immigrants miners. I was surprised (probably shouldn’t have been) to see how similar Houghton, Mich area (copper mining) was to the iron range…some town names even the same name…& went through the same economic cycles.
I just remembered something from when I was a kid. I saw a cigarette vending machine with the sign: no minors & I couldn’t figure why iron ore miners weren’t allowed to buy them.
shooogarp at 83: Cool photos! She says that any headstones you see in the Scofield cemetery with the surname “Mottonen” are her relatives (and possibly “Koski”; we’re not sure if they lived there are not.)
Arwa Damon reporting on CNN from Iraq is quite a change from normal … wow!
ifthethunderdontgetya,
“Well lo, if you want to talk about israel and bombing (and guilt), head on over to Sadly, No!”
I’ll respectfully disagree with that. The posters AND commenters are what drives FDL, always has.
The transport of minors bill – reminds me when I was in junior high school and the girls who could afford it had to go to Mexico for abortions. And we were in Baltimore. Different set of circumstances… same repressive government mindset. What year is this again?
And pardon my manners Jordan, for not saying thanks right up front! Thanks for the reminder and the message!
And Bionic, thanks for that link! It reminds me of all who have perished in the thing we call “war”, and the sorrow of so many lives unlived and stories untold.
I loved this movie and heartily recommend it.
Jordan– thank you for another great post and another reminder that our democracy inherently belongs to us!
and your little dog, too
If you’re interested in an update on Gene Scalia, check here
Hey lo at 99, formerly anon,
Thanks for taking on a recognizable nom de plume. Makes for better communication. Then we can agree or disgree, at least knowing with whom we are talking.
Llamajockey, I don’t question the need for unions or professional associations for so-called middle class occupations. However, if there are half a million tech workers unemployed or underemployed, and if enrollments in training is down, it would suggest that there are just plain too many workers for the number of jobs available. And no amount of organizing will fix that.
J Donne…122
“We have not heard the last of Condi.”
Quite possibly true. I would respectfully submit Rice is not a person of principle, but rather somewhat of an opportunist. I certainly do not agree with her politics nor her boss. She is part of the WHIGS that got us into this immoral Bush Iraq War. She shares responsibility for the killing of innocent men, women and children in Lebanon. Hopefully, one day she will be held accountable.
thanks egregious and conzumel for making me feel welcome in lieu of our differing opinions. watching the daily show now. the only bright spot in an otherwise gloomy news day
Jordan 133
Ayyyeeeeeeee . . . .
WalMart and Scalia. What a combination. :(
Jinny -130 I remember it well though I’m sure I’m a whole lot older than you, dear.
Ah Baltimore! I went to Roland Park school briefly but my Mom – southern to the bone – feared the emergence of adolescent interest in boys and I ended up at Miss Miller’s School – girls only – near the wonderful Walters Art Gallery and Washington monument.
Dear Daddy rescued all of us kids by moving the family to Memphis on the eve of Jerry Lee Lewis and Elvis..making us all very happy newspaper brats. LOL!
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 91
Thanks for taking the time.
I didn’t know this guy but I felt compelled to acknowledge his contributions and the world’s loss with his death.
‘Fraid we haven’t done justice to your excellent post…
Oh, and new thread.
J
kirby and jlr
You are missing the point. There is no shortage of nurses where there is decent pay and working conditions. The fact is study after study show that the US trains plenty of nurses, math and science teachers and engineers. Have you ever taken a course in labor market economics or statistics??? Because the arguments of Big corporate lobbying groups be they Hospital Associations, School Districts or Technology or Industry that the United States are not producing enough engineer, computer programers, nurses or math and science teachers are horsehit. The Corporations have an agenda to skew the data and it is not in the interests of workers.
Of course lots of nurses leave the profession because of pay, benefits, job security and working condition issues. Likewise lots of engineer and math and science teachers leave their fields because of relatively low pay for college graduates with their academic achievement. Also Engineers and all technology workers face the huge problem of age discrimination by age forty. Why be an engineer when the MBAs and Sales guys make all the money. Why be an unemployed 40 year old engineer or techie at all. US companies bitch about the shortage of engineers and programmers when their are literally thousands of experienced workers in their prime out of work because of age discrimination.
In the case of nursing and teaching in no way will the situation be improved by opening the profession to Global Labor Arbitrage where employers will be free to be able to replace US workers with immigrants who are effectively indebtured servants praying for a green card who will be tricked into working for significantly below US payscale wages.
Anne Holliday,
ah, the Walters… and Roland Park! Thanks for the memories.
lo,
You’re welcome. We definitely disagree on the Lebanon situation but I remember what it was like to be a newbie here.
Our beloved punaise almost didn’t make it, he was cracking jokes as is his wont, and established commenters were getting their dander up. And look what we would have lost if HE had been scared off.
So welcome, and I disagree with you. :)
Anne Holliday says:
“And on a brighter other hand – basic organizing skills appear to be well and live and evolving within the netroots – don’t cha agree?”
I do indeed! And I hope it continues and grows for the next 30 years, ’cause we’re at least that far behind those Repugs!
And Ta! For the hear, hear.
Nursing shortage:
I used to work at Mass General Hospital back in the BC days, before children. Nurses were starting to burn out in the 70’s because of increasing work loads of sicker patients, but lousy pay.
This has only accelerated over the decades. Case in point: my neighbor who is a 50 year old trained nurse, is out of the profession despite her deep devotion to Christian service. The pay/working conditions situation is just too awful even for her. This is a woman who is a foster mother for crack babies. If we have lost people like her, the profession is in trouble.
I will not deny that employers are often their own worst enemies, or that they are often slow learners.
My point is that in the long run, at least in some fields, American employers will not be able to get away with paying substandard wages to skilled immigrants because these people will be able to get better quality jobs elsewhere.
I do not have formal training in labour economics. I am however involved in labour adjustment, workforce development, and job placement and I can tell you that in my part of Canada, employers are having a hard time filling positions.
Bionic at 79– a complete tragedy, that. This is the fault of America and others, starting a long time ago. This forgotten and desperately abused country, being re-taken by the Taliban (historically funded and supported by Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and
the US) after a long a brutal war after the Soviet invasion.
May that good man RIP. ;(
Re the transport of minors across state lines for the purpose of an abortion. I brought this up last week when it was first introduced. It is a creepy piece of legislation. At its introduction they were expressing faux concern over 12, 13, 14, and 15 year old girls pregnant by their 19 year old boyfriends and saying if there were any problems with incest and such not to worry there was a judicial bypass provision. I find dumping judicial review on a 12, 13, 14, or 15 year old deeply hypocritical and tantamount to abuse. OTOH they are concerned about the minor but not enough to further traumatize her. It reminds me of Rape Gurney Joe thinking. Women can get what they need maybe and only if they jump through enough hoops.
new thread, Esq.
on nursing shortage: I think both sides are kind of right. There would be no nursing shortage, now and in short term, if working conditions and wages increased to make the job reasonably tolerable. On other hand, there is worry that enrollment trends in health care professions, and nursing in particular, will not keep up with enough graduates to keep the learn, burn and churn approach to labor market keep working. Won’t be enough graduates to burn out in the first place, and gap will be to big to plug with reasonable expectation of foreign graduates. Easy to get LVNs from overseas. Not so easy to get large number of well trained RNs. This is just what I hear people in the know in the health care labor market grapevine say.
jlr,
My point is that in the long run, at least in some fields, American employers will not be able to get away with paying substandard wages to skilled immigrants because these people will be able to get better quality jobs elsewhere.
I think you should begin following the links I have posted and read up on the H1-B and L1 visa programs.
The very corporations,lobbyists and immigration lawyers who bribe congress for these non-immigrant visa programs clearly state corporate America’s perference for an indebtured workforce. Now how in the hell is an indebtured worker going to ask for or bargain for a higher wage. The stated wage for many H1-B IT workers typically begins at 25-30% below US payscale. That does not include numerous fees and kickbacks the immigrant IT workers are expected to pay to middlemen and immigration lawyers. Besides the minute the exploited immigrant complains he is likely to be sent on a plane home with the lose of his job and to face the disgrace of his family.
Global Labor Arbitrage is an unigue form of Arbtrage where the market is not self correcting. Governments and Corporations on both sides can conspire to manipulate currency valuations, finance trade deficits, create two tier pay scales and crush work rights for indefinate periods of time. This benefits powerful and politically interests who are able to exploit and profit from the abnormal Arbitrage situation.
egregious
lo,
You’re welcome. We definitely disagree on the Lebanon situation but I remember what it was like to be a newbie here.
Our beloved punaise almost didn’t make it, he was cracking jokes as is his wont, and established commenters were getting their dander up. And look what we would have lost if HE had been scared off.
well, wouldn’t that have been just fine and dandery.
(was it really that bad? guess I wore you all down with persistence….)
Yes, Matewan is one of my favorite films. More important is the work you’ve done on unions. We need Pete Seeger and Woody Guthrie. Their music and support gave courage. Courage is needed now to organize, to assert one’s rights.
A few readers may be interested to know that the coal operators in West Virginia have essentially not changed an iota in 70 years.
Currently, they are trying to literally remove the mountain where the “Battle of Blair Mountain” happened. (If there’s no mountain there, does that mean that all that stuff with the hired thugs and machine guns never happened? Orwell would be so proud!)
You can see more about this at:
http://www.pawv.org/blair.htm
The local paper has been covering Smithfield organizing efforts–
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/…..Smithfield
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/…..Smithfield
Rent “Matewan.”
Then rent “Bread and Roses.”
Then go out and help somebody organize.