Comments on: FDL Book Salon — The Age of Fallibility, Part II http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:38:43 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Nic M - Australia http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-203855 Nic M - Australia Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:40:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-203855 <p>There’s going to be a new web based media service called the Real News later this year…google it in a couple of months. It’s going to be proper journalism (apparently…).</p> <p>(CHECK OUT - Rob Newman’s “History of Oil” on Google video)</p> <p>History when dug up from beyond the spin (and it has to be) reveals trajectories. For example, the western wars in the Middle East have been going full tilt ever since oil was discovered there.</p> <p>It is THE fundamental base resource of our way of life. </p> <p>However, the fact that our society is completely addicted and cannot live our way of life without it, the fact that MIddle Eastern oil is controlled by western companies and the fact that we have fought war after war for it for the last 100 years is obscured by one fiction after another. </p> <p>Al Qaeda could never bring down the US. It is not a threat at all compared to the Peak Oil era we’re entering.</p> <p>However American oil companies are about to make profits beyond the imagination of history as supply exceeds demand.</p> <p>Americans pay for the war, Americans inherit the debts (China actually owns America these days), but the Corporations take home the loot.</p> <p>More big facts - America’s debt will sink America as soon as oil is out of control of America. One of the reasons for what’s happening at the moment is the swapping of US $s for the Euro as the trading currency for oil (Iraq was the first in 2000….hmmmm???). </p> <p>The fact that oil has been traded entirely in US$s has meant that the US currency has defied all laws of economics. Its value is not based on the condition of the American economy. It is based on the fact that without it, you couldn’t buy oil on the world market until recently.</p> <p>The parlous state of America’s economy cannot be overemphasised. And it’s not just about this president. </p> <p>America may have the strongest military in the world (5%of the world’s population, 50% of the world’s arms…that is 2/3 of it’s budget ) but it’s an industrialised war machine. As America’s economic industrial power wanes, so too will it’s military power. It may try to use it’s military power to maintain control (it’s doing it now), but this can only last for so long, as the comparitive industrial strength of China in particular starts to overtake the US.</p> <p>The US debt bomb has got to go off sometime. </p> <p>Still maybe this will mean we, however reluctantly, will collectively get our heads around alternative energy suppies and design a new economy around it to combat global warming, surely the biggest threat of all.</p> There’s going to be a new web based media service called the Real News later this year…google it in a couple of months. It’s going to be proper journalism (apparently…).

(CHECK OUT – Rob Newman’s “History of Oil” on Google video)

History when dug up from beyond the spin (and it has to be) reveals trajectories. For example, the western wars in the Middle East have been going full tilt ever since oil was discovered there.

It is THE fundamental base resource of our way of life.

However, the fact that our society is completely addicted and cannot live our way of life without it, the fact that MIddle Eastern oil is controlled by western companies and the fact that we have fought war after war for it for the last 100 years is obscured by one fiction after another.

Al Qaeda could never bring down the US. It is not a threat at all compared to the Peak Oil era we’re entering.

However American oil companies are about to make profits beyond the imagination of history as supply exceeds demand.

Americans pay for the war, Americans inherit the debts (China actually owns America these days), but the Corporations take home the loot.

More big facts – America’s debt will sink America as soon as oil is out of control of America. One of the reasons for what’s happening at the moment is the swapping of US $s for the Euro as the trading currency for oil (Iraq was the first in 2000….hmmmm???).

The fact that oil has been traded entirely in US$s has meant that the US currency has defied all laws of economics. Its value is not based on the condition of the American economy. It is based on the fact that without it, you couldn’t buy oil on the world market until recently.

The parlous state of America’s economy cannot be overemphasised. And it’s not just about this president.

America may have the strongest military in the world (5%of the world’s population, 50% of the world’s arms…that is 2/3 of it’s budget ) but it’s an industrialised war machine. As America’s economic industrial power wanes, so too will it’s military power. It may try to use it’s military power to maintain control (it’s doing it now), but this can only last for so long, as the comparitive industrial strength of China in particular starts to overtake the US.

The US debt bomb has got to go off sometime.

Still maybe this will mean we, however reluctantly, will collectively get our heads around alternative energy suppies and design a new economy around it to combat global warming, surely the biggest threat of all.

]]> By: tpx http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-203374 tpx Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:02:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-203374 <p>I would ask Mr. Soros to stop having anything to do with the Democratic Party. All of his energy and money are wasted trying to make political change using that tired old dinosauer that has turned its back on the American people in pursuit of wealthy corporations’ donations. Mr. Soros had a good idea trying to use some of his wealth to promote better politics in the US, but he chose to use a political party that has sold itself to the highest bidder long ago. Much has been written about the poor representation Senator Lieberman provides, but very little about how Sen. Lieberman represents the ossification of the Democratic Party’s policies regarding the best interests of the public good. I would say to Mr. Soros, either help form a new social democracy party or at least back the Green or the Socialist Equality Parties before givng one more dime to Democrats.</p> I would ask Mr. Soros to stop having anything to do with the Democratic Party. All of his energy and money are wasted trying to make political change using that tired old dinosauer that has turned its back on the American people in pursuit of wealthy corporations’ donations. Mr. Soros had a good idea trying to use some of his wealth to promote better politics in the US, but he chose to use a political party that has sold itself to the highest bidder long ago. Much has been written about the poor representation Senator Lieberman provides, but very little about how Sen. Lieberman represents the ossification of the Democratic Party’s policies regarding the best interests of the public good. I would say to Mr. Soros, either help form a new social democracy party or at least back the Green or the Socialist Equality Parties before givng one more dime to Democrats.

]]> By: robert d murphy http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-203313 robert d murphy Mon, 24 Jul 2006 17:13:30 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-203313 <p>The most important literay contribution to our current dilemna is the book “Critical Path” written by Bucky Fuller a few years before his death. Written in the context of the cold war but just as relevant today this book clearly sets forth the necesarry steps which must be taken to save humanity from its road to destruction. Our only hope is a design revolution which will bring all humanity to the highest standard of living imaginable. Politicians are obsolete as problem solvers as they think there is not enough to go around and that they get to decide who gets it. The truth of the matter is that Wealth is without practicle limit and through proper planning and distribution can be availble to all. It is not a case of bringing anyone down but instead bringing everyone up. We are only using a small fraction of the Energy coming daily from the sun to run everyting. Limitless enery combined with increasing intellect (we only learn more not less) can create a utopia for all. The question is will we choose “Utopia or Oblivion” which is the title of one of Fullers early books. Humanity most stop putting all it’s time and energy into myths and superstitions (the worlds not so great religions). “No more Second hand God” also an earlier book by Fuller. Now is time to make the world work for everyone in the shortest amount of time possible through spontaneous cooperation without disadvantaging anyone. Our most important task is to reeducate humanity to think in terms of success and not failure.</p> The most important literay contribution to our current dilemna is the book “Critical Path” written by Bucky Fuller a few years before his death. Written in the context of the cold war but just as relevant today this book clearly sets forth the necesarry steps which must be taken to save humanity from its road to destruction. Our only hope is a design revolution which will bring all humanity to the highest standard of living imaginable. Politicians are obsolete as problem solvers as they think there is not enough to go around and that they get to decide who gets it. The truth of the matter is that Wealth is without practicle limit and through proper planning and distribution can be availble to all. It is not a case of bringing anyone down but instead bringing everyone up. We are only using a small fraction of the Energy coming daily from the sun to run everyting. Limitless enery combined with increasing intellect (we only learn more not less) can create a utopia for all. The question is will we choose “Utopia or Oblivion” which is the title of one of Fullers early books. Humanity most stop putting all it’s time and energy into myths and superstitions (the worlds not so great religions). “No more Second hand God” also an earlier book by Fuller. Now is time to make the world work for everyone in the shortest amount of time possible through spontaneous cooperation without disadvantaging anyone. Our most important task is to reeducate humanity to think in terms of success and not failure.

]]> By: kenj http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-202796 kenj Mon, 24 Jul 2006 04:32:25 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-202796 <p>Dear George</p> <p>Sen. Bob Graham, Head the Joint Congressional 9/11 Inquiry, was interviewed (Dec 11, 2002) on the PBS Lehrer Hour and had this to say:</p> <p>“I was surprised at the evidence that there were foreign governments involved in facilitating the activities of at least some of the terrorists in the United States….. I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing - although that was part of it - <strong>by a sovereign foreign government</strong> … It will become public at some point when it’s turned over to the archives, but that’s 20 or 30 years from now.” (<a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/congress/july-dec02/intelligence_12-11.html">link</a>) (<a href="http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/911-graham-admits.htm">link</a>)</p> <p>Do you have any idea which government he was referring to?</p> <p>Do you think if we asked them nicely they might tell us?</p> Dear George

Sen. Bob Graham, Head the Joint Congressional 9/11 Inquiry, was interviewed (Dec 11, 2002) on the PBS Lehrer Hour and had this to say:

“I was surprised at the evidence that there were foreign governments involved in facilitating the activities of at least some of the terrorists in the United States….. I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing – although that was part of it – by a sovereign foreign government … It will become public at some point when it’s turned over to the archives, but that’s 20 or 30 years from now.” (link) (link)

Do you have any idea which government he was referring to?

Do you think if we asked them nicely they might tell us?

]]> By: Wallis http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-202738 Wallis Mon, 24 Jul 2006 03:46:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-202738 <p>Did you know the US just finished a major uS Base underground in Israel ?<br /> True or false ?<br /> W</p> Did you know the US just finished a major uS Base underground in Israel ?
True or false ?
W

]]> By: colleenmilitariymom http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-202692 colleenmilitariymom Mon, 24 Jul 2006 02:56:19 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-202692 <p>Thank you, FDL. Forever</p> Thank you, FDL. Forever

]]> By: ccmask http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-202646 ccmask Mon, 24 Jul 2006 02:26:19 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-202646 <p>Yeah, that’s us!</p> Yeah, that’s us!

]]> By: Eli http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-202617 Eli Mon, 24 Jul 2006 02:11:15 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-202617 <p><i>Eli: Don’t miss reading the one called TPFKATA or The People Formerly Known as the Audience.</i></p> <p>Okay. (That’s… us, right?)</p> Eli: Don’t miss reading the one called TPFKATA or The People Formerly Known as the Audience.

Okay. (That’s… us, right?)

]]> By: kalina77 http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-202606 kalina77 Mon, 24 Jul 2006 02:06:54 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-202606 <p>Christy:</p> <p>A great little article about alternative fuel in the NYTimes today in the auto section (I read that avidly, go fogure!)</p> <p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/23/automobiles/23AUTO.html?_r=1&oref=slogin">http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07.....ref=slogin</a></p> Christy:

A great little article about alternative fuel in the NYTimes today in the auto section (I read that avidly, go fogure!)

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07…..ref=slogin

]]> By: ccmask http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-202596 ccmask Mon, 24 Jul 2006 02:02:02 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/23/fdl-book-salon-the-age-of-fallibility-part-ii/#comment-202596 <p>Eli: Don’t miss reading the one called TPFKATA or The People Formerly Known as the Audience.</p> Eli: Don’t miss reading the one called TPFKATA or The People Formerly Known as the Audience.

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