The new Rasmussen poll is out today, showing Lamont ahead of Lieberman 51-41 in the primary and tied 40-40 in a three way.
We got us a horse race.
There is a very interesting dynamic shaping up here in Connecticut. It looks like it may come down to the African American vote, which is why Lieberman and Lamont are vying for it so heavily at the moment.
As I wrote to Steve Gilliard and CTBlogger last night, Lieberman is running a machine politics race, hoping to pull out traditional Democratic voters like labor and African Americans in the largest districts — Hartford, New Haven and Bridgeport. He’s also brought in out-of-state help to do polling and canvassing in the ring suburbs. But with the state’s rather small African American population concentrated in these three areas (37.3% of New Haven, 30% of Bridgeport and 38% of Hartford as of 2000) it is going to be a big factor in the race.
Joe’s already got labor endorsements, but it’s hard to know how motivated the rank-and-file are going to be to turn out for him in an August primary — he’s got obvious problems on that front and he suffered a big blow when most refused to endorse him past August 8. He’s been going around to African American churches of late and with his political tin ear hoping to get them riled about Ned’s Halliburton stock (YouTube above), but Joe has several liabilities within that community which are going to be hard to overcome.
To begin with, Joe was chair of the committee that approved Michael Brown to be the head of FEMA in 42 minutes, and he also famously said that George Bush had the right to appoint anyone he wanted to. He gave cover to the cracker coalition in the mid-nineties by saying affirmative action was wrong, and then tried to pander to the Congressional Black Caucus during the 2000 race by saying he’d always been for it.
This morning I was in Hartford, where former Mayor Thurman Milner said Joe hadn’t been to their part of town in 18 years. He rather scoffingly told me that Lieberman’s people claimed he’d been there, just "quietly." He also laughed at Lieberman’s assertions that he saved the Groton sub base, and said he was taking credit for what many members of congress had worked hard to achieve. There was no love there.
I spent the morning with Maxine Waters, an enthusiastic Lamont supporter who has bucked the party to turn out for him. I’m sure there are no shortage of reasons Lieberman wants Bill Clinton to show up for him (word has it Hillary is quite worried about the threat to the stand for nothing centrists of the party from the netroots and has dispatched Big Dog to be the defender of the faith, despite Holy Joe’s sanctimonious scolding in the past.
Gilliard had this to say about whose presence will mean more:
There is an all too sad assumption that the cable boxes black people get are CNN free. I can assure you they are not. People know Lieberman’s record, and dragging out Clinton won’t help him much.
Look, black people like Clinton, but there are limits to that. Bill Clinton hasn’t been any great advocate of black issues after he left the White House, like the recent Cracker Caucus opposing the Voting Rights Act.
What isn’t obvious is that Waters is a hero in much of black America. Her support of Lamont means a lot more than Clinton’s support of Lieberman. In fact, it was Waters who stood by Clinton when he was impeached, and Lieberman who wanted to sink a knife in his back. She is someone people listen to. Sharpton and Jackson get a lot of attention and respect, but people can listen to them or not as circumstances require.
Waters, otoh, gained a lot of credibility when she dragged John Deutsch down to Watts to deal with issue of the CIA selling crack in LA. Even though the evidence was scant, people admired her sticking her neck out on this issue.
So when she campaigns for Lamont, that tells people he can be trusted to not dick over black people. A power Bill Clinton does not have and cannot transfer.
I’m off again to go follow Waters (one of my political heros — Maxine knows how to fight) as she campaigns for Lamont. I have to say that I was a bit surprised that not more was made of her willingness to come and stand up for Lamont. She’s the head of the Out of Iraq caucus, she’s standing up for what she believes in (as she always has) and you know she took no small amount of shit from the party for doing so.
The members of the CBC have called bullshit for years on things like impeachment and election theft and I’m constantly surprised that they do not get more credit for it. You want fight? They know how to fight. And having watched Maxine put on her tennis shoes and fearlessly stroll out into the worst neighborhoods in New Haven, stick her hand out and talk with the poorest of the poor face to face — the people Joe Lieberman has ignored to his peril for 18 years — let me tell you, I am taking notes. She is fearless. And I am extremely happy she’s on Ned’s side.



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Ned! Fitz! Jane!
NedRootz!
rootz!
Braley !
kobe!
Maxine!!!!! woo hoo!
OT
Anyone who wants to or can tune in- Rev. James Forbes of the Riverside Church in NYC has a new radio show on Air America airing NOW. Helen Thomas is scheduled to be the first guest
You can go here and stream it live.
Forbes is a GREAT progressive preacher.
having worked in Indiana’s Black politics for years, I can guarantee you that Joe Lieberman is not beloved by Connecticut Black voters. The Bill Clinton visit will have an impact but Maxine will blunt that. Ned’s “Mr.Lamont Ad” will resonate well in minority communities too.
But… but Joe marched for civil rights in 1964!
That has to count for something, right?
Jane, your comments should be Ned’s next ad. But not with Ned saying it, just citizens of color speaking out about the very same issues you bring up. Where was Joe when … it writes itself.
And again, again, Hillary and others are confusing us netroots for the ‘far wingy left.’ I am a rather conservative dem. But I am radical in getting bush and all of his buds out of government. If Hillary wants to stand with Bush, then that speaks volumes to me.
Great news!
Only now i’m terrified that we will be in a huge war by election day because this is a death knell for bush and the GOP congress … unless they do something before then to radically change everything … like attack Iran and Syria.
He surely is RevDeb and is my kind of antiwar humanist; ain’t afraid to take on power, either.
*ilson 6 — when I was at the church with Ned last week, the women in the parking lot were saying “go, Mr. Lamont!”
You’ve got that one right.
Eli (#7), it does count for something and I’m sure it will make African-Americans and others interested in a fair, colorblind society feel sad that someone can change so drastically when a few dollar bills are dangled in front of them
unless they do something before then to radically change everything … like attack Iran and Syria.
“Lookit! We’re doin’ something! We’re strong and decisive! Democrats don’t have the balls to invade other countries on the flimsiest of pretexts!”
Eli (#7), it does count for something and I’m sure it will make African-Americans and others interested in a fair, colorblind society feel sad that someone can change so drastically when a few dollar bills are dangled in front of them
I wish it was just Joe, but he’s merely one of the worst and most obvious offenders.
wow
When I think what a long shot this was not long ago.
wow.
And big huzzah to Congresswoman Waters, whose word clearly matters more than BigDog’s, and for good reason. While
the real problem is that the CNN the rest of us get is all too black-people-free. I can’t remember the last time Maxine Waters appeared on a cable news program. Conyers? Meek? Clay? Davis? Kilpatrick? Forget about it.
These are people not featured on television. Period.
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Had Enough?
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Why would whatever Clinton will say overcome what Joe has DONE for his 18 years in power? People just need to know that Joe’s puffing up about his role in civil rights is a sham.
Maxine is a LIVING GODDESS!!!!!!!!!!
So could Maxine ever run against DiFi? Or Boxer, for that matter…
Joe’s role in Katrina should also be exposed and I am sure Maxine is hammering that one home.
Now I’m confused. I thought we’d forgiven Michael Brown after his mea culpa, but we’re still angry at RGJoe for his 42 minute confirmation hearing of Brown?
{head hurts, must check with Kos for true views}
…But I’m thrilled nonetheless that people can still make a difference when they work together for something they believe in, even with everything stacked against them.
Bravo to everyone for all they have done to to get us to this point. Thank you. Thank you!
angie 19 — we spoke about it this morning in fact. I am certain it will come up.
Now I’m confused. I thought we’d forgiven Michael Brown after his mea culpa, but we’re still angry at RGJoe for his 42 minute confirmation hearing of Brown?
Michael Brown is not as bad a human being as we thought, but he was still never competent to run FEMA.
Love me some Maxine Waters! Jane, is spazeboy out and about with y’all today, or is he taking a needed day off? Hope somebody’s grabbing some vid of MW and NL campaigning together, ’cause I’d sure love to see it.
I also hope that at some point in the day NL gets hold of a keyboard to play MW a little musical thank-you too — THAT would bring her house down!
FWIW, in last weeks Israel Uber Alles vote in Congress, Maxine Waters was one of the very few Congresscritters to either vote no or abstain …
Why, Eli, you must have a faster Kosphone than mine!
Teddy — I think we accepted Michael Brown’s word that he actually tried to do something after the tape was released and it appeared that he wasn’t as indifferent as many had reported. He was in no way qualified for the job, ever, and Holy Joe should’ve figured that out instead of rubber stamping him.
What’s the likelihood that the big dog extracted a promise from Lieberman to endorse and campaign for Hilliary in exchange for his stumping for Joe?
lotus — spazeboy is at a wedding today. We’ll miss him.
I didn’t realize today was Maxine day. This is so exciting, Maxine and Jane hehehe. I hope Maxine gets exposure and as many Dems as possible get to meet her. Bill will get lots of air play and that is my only concern.
Taking the F out of FEMA does nothing til you take the bush administration and supporters of it out of power. Good for Maxine and you, Jane. All of the big cities in CT– Hartford, New Haven, Bridgeport, Norwalk and Stamford have large African American, Hispanic, Haitian, etc populations. They ought to hear and appreciate the real story behind HoJo and the difference Ned offers.
Having Bill Clinton stump for Lieberman is sort of like Bush finally standing before the NAACP—it’s a quick-fix attempt to curry favor with a block of voters that is suddenly useful. Good luck with that one, Joe, since you’ve done pretty much nothing for them between 1964 and now. Bill may be well-loved, but his mojo won’t rub off. Lieberman won’t be basking in Clinton’s aura, he’ll be standing in his shadow. The contrast may prove damning.
51-41 sounds like a real lead. Think I’ll breathe easier once it gets a little bigger, though. As this thing goes on, Lamont should pick up support if Connecticut voters are truly as fed up with Lieberman as they appear to be. The war is going badly and the economy is bad for anyone who isn’t rich or working for a defense contractor. Lieberman hasn’t helped deal with either problem.
What’s the likelihood that the big dog extracted a promise from Lieberman to endorse and campaign for Hilliary in exchange for his stumping for Joe?
I was thinking the exact opposite, actually. That he got Joe to promise *not* to endorse or campaign for Hillary.
Ah, thought he had something else to do today — that’s right, the wedding. Well, shoot. Ot not, as the case may be.
HaHa!
As this thing goes on, Lamont should pick up support if Connecticut voters are truly as fed up with Lieberman as they appear to be.
It’ll be real interesting to see what the CT For Lieberman “I’m a Democrat – no, really” campaign looks like.
I’m wondering if Ned’s people extended an invite to Clinton to visit with Ned for a few minutes. Or would this be considered bad form since Bill’s visit is clearly about Lieberman.
Still, I wonder if Bill would have agreed to meet with Ned. That would be the polite thing to do. He might get edified in the process (Bill, not Ned).
So sad to see Bill Clinton squandering his talents on the Joe-sen one ($$$8.5 million, and it still can’t buy him a primary), while truly worthy Democrats like Bruce Braley campaigns with so little.
Bruce Braley.
puppethead, nail on the head. First speaker, The Master Politician of Our Era, then . . . little whiny-wheezy Joe Lieberman?
The horror.
*ilson @ 25– brave, smart and right thing to do! Good for her.
(((((Maxine))))
FWIW on the Halliburton stock reporting, last night WTNH news clarified that both Joe and Ned had held Halliburton stock in their mutual funds. They also showed a clip of Swan.
Wish I could remember more of the details, but I was in the middle of some other stuff. Maybe their website goes into the details.
http://www.wtnh.com
Maxine!!! I love her ferocity. And I would vote for her over DiFi for the senate in a minute. Senator Waters . . . I like it.
And 51-41, 40-40. Lovely numbers.
puppethead 32 — he he.
well said, as always
Maxine is surely one of the sheroes in congress. If she brings cred to Lamont’s campaign, that’s big.
I don’t know if anyone’s brought this up, but Al Franken’s been harshing on Lieberman on his radio show. He started out early in the week saying how he’d raised money for Lieberman in the past but had some questions on his positions.
By Friday, Franken was on the verge of openly mocking Lieberman. Apparently Lieberman said he’d do the show and now is chickening out. Franken kept saying, “I want him on my show and he needs to call in to confirm within the next twenty minutes…” Franken has also said he’s having Lamont on and if Lieberman bails he’ll just have Ned on twice as long.
Something has gone really wrong with Lieberman’s campaign, they’re acting paranoid and irrational. Pity, isn’t it?
And 51-41, 40-40. Lovely numbers.
Bear in mind, the Quinnipiac poll says that almost half the CTers “haven’t heard enough” about Ned to form an opinion of him. So those lovely numbers are *in spite of* a huge name-recognition handicap, and will only get better over the next four months.
I keep thinking how important this election is in the larger scheme of things. If Lamont wins decisively on August 8 it most likely will spell the end to the Lieberman campaign. And then we could look forward to a VP Lamont on a Gore ticket for 2008! Not beyond the realm of possibility.
I’m mighty tempted to head to CT after the bar exam next week and help with the GOTV effort.
I assume they still need people.
Y’all will get a cackle out of the Courant’s lede story today (especially the headline):
Lamont Is Rich
(Eventually it gets around to Joe’s Halliburton problem too.)
Looks like the bill is coming due for a lot of right wing crooks and liars.
First Ken Lay, now closet gay Mayor West.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s…..TE=DEFAULT
-GSD
Lotus 24
No kidding! Ned ought to show them that he can boogie with the best of ‘em.
What’s the likelihood that the big dog extracted a promise from Lieberman to endorse and campaign for Hilliary in exchange for his stumping for Joe?
I think part of Clinton’s calculus was that he feared that this three way Senate race might hand the seat over to a Republican. Judging by this poll, it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen.
This is a very nice insight into why someone like Maxine Waters gives me hope in the Democratic party. She demonstrates leadership and a willingness to fight. A lesson that a lot in the party need to learn, and the smart ones who do, will benefit greatly.
I think part of Clinton’s calculus was that he feared that this three way Senate race might hand the seat over to a Republican. Judging by this poll, it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen.
Schlesinger does not appear to be a credible candidate by any measure. Far more CT Repubs would vote for Joe than Schlesinger, and his “haven’t heard enough” numbers were in the high 80s.
db — yes they’ll need help! I’m checking out the possibilities of flying in early monday Aug.7 and leaving Tuesday night Aug.8 — I’m sure I can help and also crash somewhere Monday night…
db 49 — they absolutely need people.
Bear in mind, the Quinnipiac poll says that almost half the CTers “haven’t heard enough” about Ned to form an opinion of him. So those lovely numbers are *in spite of* a huge name-recognition handicap, and will only get better over the next four months.
Not necessarily, that depends on who defines Lamont. Ned or Joe?
Great way to celebrate “Crossing the Bar,” db — and loads of good luck to you. My best advice (still glad I did it in ‘96 myself) is a really good, comfortable set of earplugs.
Burn that thang DOWN, db!
Not necessarily, that depends on who defines Lamont. Ned or Joe?
That thought had occurred to me. But A) Joe’s negative campaigning is so ugly, and so inept, and so dishonest that it doesn’t have a lot of credibility, and B) I think there are a lot of CT voters who just need to know that they have an alternative to Joe.
Also, as Ned’s name recognition has improved, his other numbers have improved, which suggests that Joe’s efforts to define him are failing. I see no reason to assume that that trend would change.
Jane-
You’re doing such a great job out there. What a thrill to meet Maxine Waters. She’s a tiger! Just hope that someone is following behind on each of these events with plenty of voter registration forms, just in case. Just reading through various blog diaries it seems that, other than a few crazy neocons, most people in this country aren’t just sick of the Iraq war, they’re sick of war, period. Should be a big help to Ned. Hope so.
Thinking about slogans . . . .
Selling out fellow Democrats doesn’t make you bi-partisan.
Selling out working families doesn’t make you a Centrist.
Selling out the elderly to Phizer doesn’t make you bi-partisan.
Now you.
Schlesinger does not appear to be a credible candidate by any measure.
Are the republicans thinking of replacing him?
Double EPU
angie, Read your kind comment in PUchaire’. Thanks so much, it is a very good day with a lot of work ahead of us.
A small observation for rural Dems.
I went to the county clerks office yesterday for a little introduction and an offer to help out. I mentioned my prior work experience as an election inspector, not my experience as a candidate, some other time. When I offered they asked my party affiliation and I replied first with I don’t worry about party at the booth just a fair open participation. They were very nice and mentioned a lot of rural voting situations are covered by one Republican, no other people at all. So country / rural progressives please check in with or call your county/parrish clerk soon. The clerk mentioned Dems and Reps are allowed four representatives each at a polling area, so shifts might be a possibility. Planning on going back next week for more face to face. Progressive Democrats here are fighting diebold in every way at every level. Someone has to be near the polls.
Now you.
Capitulation is not courageous.
IMO, Clinton was intended to be like kryptonite to Lamont…Big Dog comes in, shakes paws, puts a Apple Blossom-smelling bandaid over the barely-healed wounds of personal rancor, and rockets off back to some jazz joint in Harlem…hopefully leaving enough of a residual contact buzz that the locals will pull the lever for the status quo.
Long on artifice, short on practical solutions…What an airy campaign for the people’s hearts.
;>)
Are the republicans thinking of replacing him?
Looks like it. I think there was one Republican state rep who wanted to run to the left of Joe on an anti-war, anti-Bush platform, but I don’t guess the Republican establishment’s going to give her a whole lot of help…
OT, but kudos to FDLs comments section. They’re really user friendly.
that the locals will pull the lever for the status quo.
Status Joe.
Al said he’d book Ned on I think for the 31st. Joe never called in. Yet another lost opportunity for Joe and opening for Ned.
BTW, I don’t have online access, but those of you who tap into the New Haven Register, there was an op-ed (forum) in yesterday’s paper by a Yale B. School Professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld. He mocks Joe’s debate line “I know George Bush and I am not George Bush”
title: “Joe Lieberman has lost ideals of his youth”
It is fabulous!
snippit
Thanks for that, Eureka! I will be at our polls this November and was there in 2004.
Millenery man 54
Maxine is so strong, so outspoken, that you can bet the R’s are right this minute combing through her life to see if she ever so much as cheated at dominoes.
I hope she knows this and makes sure there’s not even the ghost of an appearance of anything.
Of course, knowing the R’s, they’ll make something up anyway. Just can’t give them any ammo.
Eli, I don’t think Schlesinger can make it to Aug 8 anymore, do you? She may be their only option — and I mean ONLY option — once the DSC crowd has their chat with Joe on Aug 9. They’ll have him signed up to a cushy lobbying contract so fast it’ll make his head spin.
OT, but kudos to FDLs comments section. They’re really user friendly
Kudos to FDLs commenters. They’re really user friendly, too.
but I don’t guess the Republican establishment’s going to give her a whole lot of help…
I have some doubt that DC weenie will shriek at the angry conservatives who won’t allow a moderate republican to play in their party.
er.. “weenie wing” I should use “preview” in this user friendly comments section.
Extremism in the defense of Lieberty is not nice
;>)
Eli 66
You runnin’ against Spector?
Jane how long is Maxine in CT?
… et ton petit chien aussi :: the GOP has already tried to smear Maxine with nepotism charges but that dog didnt hunt … the Black community expects its leaders will be attacked and vilified — after all, thats what racists do !
and you’re little dog, too 73
love the name btw. You’re right about that. If there’s no fire, it’s all smoke and mirrors. The problem is once it’s out there, you can’t take it back.
lotus @74:
I haven’t been following the Republican side of this super-closely, so I just kind of have overall impressions, but I think the Republican establishment is definitely trying to push Schlesinger out, but I think they have one or two other names in mind, and the anti-war rep isn’t one of them.
I don’t think it really makes much difference who the Republicans put up, though. If they had a strong candidate, they would have made some kind of appearance by now (i.e., someone would have jumped in as soon as it became clear that a Republican candidate might not be just a sacrificial lamb this year).
Angie 80 — through tomorrow anyway.
Question for RGJoe:
How, exactly, does one become a multimillionaire after a lifetime of being on the public payroll?
otoh, Wow, Ned’s rich!
Imagine being that rich and having a young family and deciding, with all the time and money in the world to spend with and on your family, to make this sacrifice based upon your beliefs.
He’s spending his entire 2005 income on this campaign. This guy is the real deal!
You runnin’ against Spector?
Ugh. I hate that wanker more than words can express, but at least he’s capitulating to his own party.
Teddy 85
I like your question. It would be interesting to have it answered.
Here we go. Here’s how the local TV news is playing the tax returns and stock issues along with the visit by Clinton. There’s a video link on the bottom if you prefer to see the broadcast.
http://www.wtnh.com/Global/sto…..v=menu29_1
Great! Please give her my admiration and thanks! I wish more members of the CBC would follow her lead.
(Would you prefer “Collaboration is not courage?” I kinda flipped a coin, really…)
I wonder if they were planning on Lieberman to bang the first hammer……
July 22, 2006, 12:35AM
Halliburton may drop plans for IPO
Company could seek private money for KBR subsidiary
After months of preparing for an initial public offering, Halliburton may not spin off its KBR engineering and construction subsidiary to Wall Street after all.
On a conference call with investors and analysts Friday morning, Halliburton CEO Dave Lesar said his team still believed a public offering was an attractive option but added, “The IPO is not a necessary first step any longer.”
Instead, the company will consider a tax-free spinoff of KBR using private funds.
That’s because the IPO market has not been kind to many companies lately. NewPage Holdings, Hexion Specialty Chemicals and Bidz.com have all recently postponed their initial stock sales.
Halliburton had hoped to put as much as 20 percent of KBR on offer to shareholders in an effort to raise $550 million.
That’s a tough sell to Wall Street, given KBR’s second-quarter operating income loss of $41 million.
Eli 86
I want to grab Spector by his shirt and yell “Who elected YOU to give away my rights?!”
Fu**er.
*ilson and db … I’m heading in sometime around 8/29 as well – this fight needs us all!
I don’t know the recent figures but around ‘90, New Haven was something like the 7th poorest city in the US and Hartford was #3 … folks don’t realize that in the midst of such a very suburban state, the inner cities are a disaster.
I want to grab Spector by his shirt and yell “Who elected YOU to give away my rights?!”
I wigged out and sent him a letter after his lament, “Why does it take a newspaper investigation to get them to comply with the law?”
My letter basically said, “You.”
Eli 90
Only if you’re going after the Archly Alliterative vote.
Yeah, it would be great if Congresswoman Waters would spread the word in DeeCee about her fabulous reception in Connecticut, the voters hungering for change, Ned’s resonance with communities hurt by this war and Joe’s support of it, as well as the rabid lambs and kobe. Maybe a few more principled Dems would make the trip in the next coupla weeks.
Hey, did Biden ever catch that train, anyway?
I think the Clintons are stuck in the 90’s. So much has changed. Bill has this great reputation for political skills, but he may have spent too much time away from the cutting edge of it.
I’m not sensing the kind of sharpness I used to find in the Clintons.
I’ll pay for Obama’s train ticket up there…
what you waiting for, Mr. Junior Senator?
Eli, I prolly haven’t caught every article, but been watching the Courant’s and others’ Schlesinger stories as much as possible, and my impression is that those other prospects (prospects more in the GOP state chair’s eyes than their own) have been answering “Hummahummahumma” to the call. As Ned surges, they’ll prolly recede even faster.
Rich Goopers don’t need any o’ that “public servant” grief, ya know?
My money is still on Bill sitting down with RGJoe and starting out, “Now, Joe, about this independent bid….”
Hope springs eternal! or a turtle.
Eli 94
“I wigged out and sent him a letter after his lament, “Why does it take a newspaper investigation to get them to comply with the law?”
My letter basically said, “You.””
Oh, that makes me deep-down happy. Brilliant and Succinct.
I’ll pay for Obama’s train ticket up there…
what you waiting for, Mr. Junior Senator?
I can more easily picture Obama campaigning for Joe, actually…
This race is truly a people powered revolution. Jane, you inspire all of us with your energy, your spirit and your sense of humor, keep up the great work!
Oh, that makes me deep-down happy. Brilliant and Succinct.
Oh, that wasn’t the actual letter. I was just summarizing. I did urge him to run his fingers along his back and get re-acquainted with his spine, and I may have asked him something about how he wanted history to remember him.
Guess he showed me.
If Big Dawg does meets Ned – and I hope he does – would this mean Boxer will too? And will CT and/or spazeboy be on the ground with their trusty cameras in that happy event?
So many questions so little time.
Jane:
Thank you so much for these updates.
In a world filled with news that brings on despair, the news from CT gives me hope.
Actually, so do Howie’s Saturday roundups.
Teddy 1000
There were a couple people from CT Thursday night at the gathering saying that they thought they Bill was coming in for a talk.
One can only hope.
Teddy 1000
All of a sudden, Teddy sounds like an unstoppable killing machine…
Unfortunately, so can I, Eli. But if Obama wants to live up to his “progressive” history, he ought to support the progressive in the race.
From his official website:
“Barack Obama has dedicated his life to public service as a community organizer, civil rights attorney, and leader in the Illinois state Senate. Obama now continues his fight for working families following his recent election to the United States Senate.”
from wiki:
Though known as a principled liberal, Obama was highly regarded for his ability to build coalitions and persuade opponents. He engineered the unanimous passage in the Senate of several pieces of progressive legislation, and in one instance, successfully convinced the Fraternal Order of Police and the National Rifle Association to endorse a bill they had previously opposed.
Eureka Springs eternal too…)
If Big Dawg does meets Ned – and I hope he does – would this mean Boxer will too?
Well, you know, Anne H, it’s only the Bushies who go a-visiting allies and don’t/won’t meet the opposition too . . .
Unfortunately, so can I, Eli. But if Obama wants to live up to his “progressive” history, he ought to support the progressive in the race.
I’ll settle for at least supporting the Democrat after the primary…
Ugh, you would think after setting type for 22 years I would be able to see my typos.
I meant Teddy 100, sorry about that Teddy.
re:closet gay Mayor West
It’s not a surprise he died, he’s been sick for a while. But, like Ken Lay, most people say good riddence to bad rubbish.
I thought it was kinda cool, Millineryman.
Think of the draw he would have though, Eli. He could pack the house. He better support the winner of the primary…
TOWA, having followed that all last fall, I’m not surprised either. Internalized homophobia has gradually killed many a one.
Eli @ 18:
So could Maxine ever run against DiFi? Or Boxer, for that matter…
She’s got my vote, my support whatever she needs. Either Senate seat at this point. We need real people in these positions, not women who will sell their integrity down the river so indiscriminately.
In case voters need a Katrina refresher, I highly recommend this video essay. At the link several pictures will come up, then a couple of paragraphs and at the bottom hit play.
Ghost Town-by War Photographer Thomas Dworzak
http://inmotion.magnumphotos.c…..ttown.aspx
Sorry, I had to step away.
I will do my best to be there. I give it 85% probability. I can only spare 3 days, though.
Bye!
Think of the draw he would have though, Eli. He could pack the house. He better support the winner of the primary…
That would be nice. I’m pretty skeptical of Obama, though – isn’t he a DSCC member?
Angie … Joe has been one of the candidates supported by Obama’s personal PAC and he campaigned for him already … since Obama has thrown his future in with the Clintonistas, I suspect he is joining Hil in the “oh my god, those rabble think they have a vote” crowd!
C’mon, BigDog understands what independent bids can accomplish — it’s how he beat his new best friend in 92. He’ll speak from a position of authority.
Actually, I’m an upgrade from the Teddy900, suitable only for making a martini. The new model makes a cosmo as well!
Happy Birthday Eureka!
and Maura too!
aaargh, siun!
siun, it took only a few votes before I realized that Obama’s 2004 convention speech basically just meant, “Can’t we all just get along?”
It’s so great that Ned Lamont is not just the Anti-Joe. In any race at any time, he’d be enjoyable to work for as he seems bright, witty, engaging, with ideas, a willingness to put out daring commercials, and the capacity to lead.
It’s good to see other risk taking leaders like Maxine building alliances and making democracy safe for democrats to stand for again.
don’t know the recent figures but around ‘90, New Haven was something like the 7th poorest city in the US and Hartford was #3 … folks don’t realize that in the midst of such a very suburban state, the inner cities are a disaster.
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Don’t know what’s going on with the italics. I’ve closed them.
siun, there is still poverty in the inner city, however, the Dem mayor DeStaphano has been doing a bang up job for New Haven. He’s also running for the Dem primary for Governor.
The downtown area has undergone major renovations with luxury apartments being built because living in the city has become far more desirable. You won’t believe the variety of restaurants either.
They’ve had this massive revitalization project going on in the Newhall area of New Haven turning dumpy slum-lordish property beautiful, constructing brand new homes, all sorts of good stuff.
Ya gotta love a mayor that makes parking free for hybrid vehicles. :)
I think Yale also offers some incentives to employees, as well, if they buy property in New Haven, something like $30k mortgage assistance.
It’s so great that Ned Lamont is not just the Anti-Joe. In any race at any time, he’d be enjoyable to work for as he seems bright, witty, engaging, with ideas, a willingness to put out daring commercials, and the capacity to lead.
So… he *is* the Anti-Joe.
No spazeboy film of Jane and Maxine… :(
Couldn’t his friends postpone their wedding?
TeddySanFran @ 123:
Which model comes with the Manhattan-making ability? That one’s the winner! :-)
I get the biggest kick out of all our typos here. Early on it was all I could do to restrain myself from repeating them, finally realizing that the mis-typer sometimes felt mocked and not acknowledged. Some of our typos have been hilarious — I wish I’d saved them. Nowadays, the ModGoddesses are sometimes quick to correct the most fun typos, I see.
Delighted to become part of history here, with a model number no less….
Thanks Teddy
If we ever get a real candidate against DIFI I will move back to SF and drink coffee with TSF while we bring it home. Maxine is an excellent choice. SF has got to get past the loss of Harvey Milk and make him proud again.
nodding … yep, Eli and his favorite line when he speaks is “well, I’m just a junior senator so I can’t do anything”…
but he sure can raise money and that’s what he does – his PAC has gigantic travel expenses as he flits all over the place raising big bucks for pals like Joe, Hil, the Nelsons, etc … not a nice list at all and no support for grassroots and upstarts.
Yepper, Kevin H, that’s our Ned. Well said.
Thanks, Lotus! It’s not my first bar exam, though. I moved to a new state and there’s no reciprosity. What a nightmare!
Helping with GOTV will give me something fun to look forward to.
Good for Waters for showing up and supporting Lamont. She’s a standup Congresswoman that speaks her mind. I like her!
Is the Big Dog losing his touch? I hate to think of him as a has been. What does Clinton owe Lieberman after this time? Or as someone pointed out upthread, maybe this is for future favors from Joe for Hillary. Not sure I’d trust Lieberman to keep his word, but that’s just me.
Is the Big Dog losing his touch?
I think the Big Dog maybe has more skill than judgment…
Regarding Schlesinger — the Rs are trying to get him to quit, with the assault coming from the top — Gov Rell and state GOP chair. He volunteered back when state conventions were held, and the Rs were so convinced that Lieberman would win in a walk (as he has before) that no viable candidate would risk his or her capital on a losing Senate race.
The mystery is — who would replace Schlesinger now that it is a competitive race? Shays needs to keep his seat — he would have been the ideal candidate 3 months ago, but now too late. His D rival, Diane Farrell is too close to put a rookie in there.
Nancy Johnson is the one person to keep an eye on. She has won the 5th (my district) the last 2, when her district (R) was merged into the 5th (D primarily). Her D challenger, Chris Murphy, isn’t making a lot of waves, despite the MoveOn “caught red handed” ads against Johnson.
When the two districts were combined she was ruthless in hammering Jim Maloney (my rep, and a terrific guy in all aspects — who, get this — can’t afford to run again now because he needs to put his kids through college — uh, he doesn’t see his seat as an ATM.)
Johnson is the most powerful woman in the house right now, with seniority and ways and means, and she may not want to give up her safe seat there. But, that exclusive Senatorial club could be attractive to her ego.
It’s the one district in the state in which the GOP could put a rookie out there at this point, and could still win — they won’t take the risk on Shays or Simmons, who could lose to Ds this year.
If you play the dominoes, that’s the most attractive way they could fall on the R side to go up against Lamont, or both Lamont and Lieberman. Now, that race would be something else.
I think all bets are off until Aug 9, and a few days after that to see how much pressure the Ds put on Joe nationally NOT to run as an independent.
Jane, have the rabid lambs decided how to divide forces on Monday to cover all that’s going on in Connecticut? You know we want vlogging from BigDog’s appearance. You know we also want someone to attend to Senator Boxer’s stealthy visit.
Who’s covering what?
In fact, here ya go, siun. You’ll enjoy reading what a hard-core Democratic mayor can do for a city, start reading the accomplishments:
http://www.cityofnewhaven.com/…..252006.asp
Man, it would be great to have him as governor, but Rell is too damn popular. I’ll be pulling the lever for him though.
I didn’t hear the Franken comment, but it is absolutely fascinating. The back story on this is something you have to dig for, but it is all on the record. First of all, Al Franken will be running for the Minnesota Senate Seat (called the Wellstone Seat) in 2008. He’s moved home, moved his studio here, attended his DFL caucus, registered to vote, and these days he is traveling the state with his new act — Walter Mondale as Norwegian Straight Man, and Al Franken. Mondale announced his support for Franken in 08 from the Carter Center on C-Span about 6 months ago.
Now — backstory. Al was a very good friend of Paul and Sheila Wellstone, raised money for the critical 1990 campaign, and over the years they got involved together in lots of things. Al became a member of the trust that runs Wellstone Action, which trains candidates and campaign managers. A few years ago, at one of the board meetings that group pressed Al to “come home and run for the Wellstone Seat.” Mondale, Molly Ivans, — a whole lot of good guys were in on this.
What one has to do to comprehend all this is understand that in 1990 very quietly, Lieberman supported the Republican Senator Wellstone beat, one Rudy Boschwitz. Among other things, Joe made sure Paul did not get any money from DSCC or other progressive funding sources in DC until about two weeks before the election. But Paul beat Rudy with a mostly volunteer campaign, spending just over one Million Dollars to Rudy’s eleven million. Today Joe is the mentor to Norm Coleman, who would not be a Senator were it not for a fateful plane crash a week and a half before the 2002 election. So on many levels Franken’s interests (and mine) include pay back for 1990, payback for working with Boschwitz to bring Coleman forward to challenge Wellstone in 2002, and a whole lot of other stuff. This is pro and anti DLC, it is all about the power and influence of APIAC to determine what kind of Jews serve in the Senate in either party, it is about neo-con stuff, it is a huge stew. At some juncture I suspect Joe would try to side track Al — might as well be this way.
Jane, I am glad Maxine is there and working. I hope at some juncture she has a meeting with local black women influentials and leaders and gets them organized to network person to person to get out the vote, and get it for Lamont. I also think Ned Lamont has a great asset in his former students in Bridgeport who could help turning out younger voters — both in the primary and later in the General (Hopefully in the General.) More than in most communities, black voters come out because of personal persuasion — a friend or neighbor takes the initative to push a little for a particular candidate. That’s why taking Maxine’s time to meet with local influentials to get organized will be so important. Similarly, if people are saying Lieberman has not been to this part of town for 18 years — that message also needs to be networked, and repeated hand to hand. It’s far more important than a Jackson or a Sharpton appearance — though assuming Ned wins the primary, we better hope we get the Jackson’s and Sharptons in to do their rally thing. (just a note — Paul Wellstone headed Minnesota for Jackson in 1988, and Jackson came in a couple of times for Paul in 1990. One reason we won in 1990 was because Paul led the 88 Jackson Campaign before convention and managed to get about 1/3rd of the delegates for Jackson.)
Anyhow, keep reporting as much as possible the ground game in CT — looks good and between key strokes, I’am knocking on wood.
In the video at the top, check out the body language of the reporter on the left. He’s doing the authoritarian finger-point at Swan.
What’s that about?
TOW -
My sense is that Big Dog is a huge celebrity and people will still flock to see him. It’s all about seeing the *movie star* and not really about listening to his position on the candidates. I guess it all depends on how passionately he delivers his endorsement. I think it will be perfunctory and then he’ll sign a bunch of autographs.
At least I hope so.
Do we know if any of “us” won the lottery to get tix to the Clinton event? Don’t name names, just let us know if they’re in.
TSF 130 — I especially love lhp’s typos when she’s all cranked up. You can just see that big ol’ brain blastin’ down the road, dragging her poor frantically-churning fingers along after it. Great stuff!
siun
such a disappointment, that Obama. 2 years ago Mr. Rev. and I were in Chi. to take in a couple of Cubs games on vacation and tool around the old homestead. We went into O’s hq on Mich ave and stuffed envelopes for a couple of hours. The volunteers all thought he was the real deal. We briefly met him before leaving.
His DNC speech really did seem wonderful at the time. Looking back now. . . . sad.
lotus -
Typos can be quite charming. *g*
TeddySanFran #138 – I’m hoping to catch the Boxer appearance in Norwalk/Stamford on Monday, since I’ll be in the area for work. If anyone knows her scheduling info for the day, I’d really like to see it. So far there hasn’t been much posted about it.
Jane:
I took that Joe financial disclosure link and posted w/comments about 2005 and pg. 7 and the company named in rebuttal re: stocks.
Then, when Quinnipiac numbers hit, did a quick analysis about Ned’s improving chances.
BUT, given the info about name recognition, the fact that over the last few days I’ve seen Joe’s “Who is Ned’ flip-flop attack ad way too much. I think he’s carptet bombing in anticipation of the Nov poll. jmho.
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aside:
ReddHedd has mail.
…and it should have mentioned M.A. Sullivan’s work is titled ‘Child of War’.
Wow Sara at 41! That was one helluva story. Thanks.
Wow Sara at 41! That was one helluva story. Thanks.
And begs the question, why should the Democrats support a (nominally) Democratic candidate who has actually supported Republican candidates against Democratic ones?
Wowzer, Sara — that’s some saga at 140! Thanks for the Minneskinny, and please keep it coming.
CTBob, I wish Boxer’s office in DeeCee had been responsive to my inquiries about her schedule. I will call first thing on Monday to find out what I can about the day’s events, but I bet they’ll play the card that “it’s a political/personal visit, and we’re her Senate staff.” Staff of DiFi and Boxer have both played that card whenever we want to speak with them about political issues, as constituents.
oh, boy, i’m riled up again about Boxer’s visit to Connecticut. Why is she doing this? Is she still misinformed? Or are our views of her actions not important?
riled up.
And begs the question, why should the Democrats support a (nominally) Democratic candidate who has actually supported Republican candidates against Democratic ones?
Yeah, that’s pretty damn shocking. It would be pretty cool if Al just happened to mention that on the air.
Fresh, fallible thread.
I think Big Dawg and Hillary see in Ned Lamont the handwriting on the wall. I was out hiking in the heat and just got back. In my email 2 items I would like to share with you all.
1) an email from an amazed an happy Jonathan Tasini (the guy who primarying Hillary) saying that his tiny volunteer campaign that has rasied on $150,000 and was hoping to break 3% by the time of the Septemeber primary, showed up at over 13%,, yup, 13% in the new Marist Poll.
He is running on a anti-war, single payer universal health care, anti-NAFTA platform.
It’s still July and the guy is already at more than 400% of goal. AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON
2) an email inviting me to a Hillary event with Congressman Steve Islreal to talk about getting more services for veterans.
Gee, do we think it is dawning on Hillary that her DLC sanctioned support for the war may not be working out so well?
I just hope Al lets Ned get a word in edgewise. You know, complete a sentence. He can be an infuriatingly clueless and annoying interviewer.
I just hope Al lets Ned get a word in edgewise. You know, complete a sentence. He can be an infuriatingly clueless and annoying interviewer.
Worse than Janeane?
Regarding the Halliburton issue, the following was on Kos today:
(sorry – I haven’t figured out how to do that block-quote thingy )-: )
For what it’s worth… (6+ / 0-)
In yesterday’s daily Lieberman/Lamont diary it was discussed that both Joe and Ned owned stock in Haliburton. I found this to be pathetically hypocritical on both contender’s part. (It did not matter to me that these funds were part of a packaged mutual fund).I seemed to be the only one (and liberal hobo)who found this reprehensible. And I was pissed. So I emailed Ned Lamont and this is the response that came a few hours later:
“Thank you for the email. Ned owned a small amount of stock through a fund where he had no selection over the stocks picked. Haliburton is no longer a part of this fund’s portfolio. Ned’s opposition to the war in Iraq (against his economic interests, and those of Halliburton) shows that he would be no one’s man but ours.
Thank you for your interest.
Rose Ryan “
So for me…all’s well in Lamont World and I can contribute to his campaign and feel good about it.
by bic momma on Sat Jul 22, 2006 at 12:16:44 PM PDT
Worse than Janeane?
Okay. Not as bad as Janeane. Sheesh, you’re tough. :)
(sorry – I haven’t figured out how to do that block-quote thingy )-: )
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Just use pointy brackets instead of square ones, and you should be good to go.
Well, speak o’ the Devil . . .
Uh-HUH, lhp, those are some telling emails ya got there. Telling and mighty mighty wheel-turning.
Hmmm.
Eli 157
Nobody’s worse than Janeane. :(
Friday was her last show as co-host. Might come back to sub occasionally.
Then Sam dropped the bomb that he might be leaving in a month.
Said there’s a website to save the show.
Tasini’s at THIRTEEN percent now? That’s all the opposition DiFi got in her June primary. He needs to put the pedal DOWN. This is great news — perhaps Bill’s visit to Connecticut is to distract us lefties from the Tasini challenge, if it’s really building like this.
OT and OY
Afghanistan close to anarchy, warns general
Nato commander’s view in stark contrast to ministers’
Forces short of equipment and ‘running out of time’
Richard Norton-Taylor
Saturday July 22, 2006
The Guardian
I bet Leaverman has spent more time in Connecticut in the last month than he had in the previous 18 years.
IMHO, the primary is game, set, match. If Lieberman loses to Lamont in the primary he becomes damaged goods and is history. I doubt that he will hang in there for the general election in November.
Republicans! Spruce up your secure, undisclosed gated community landscape with the latest in ostentatious outdoor ornamentation…Lawn Jockey Joey!
Be the first in your bunker to display this charming relic of the bygone bipartisan process…Phosphorescently painted Joey will be there at night to scare off pernicious progressives and other hippie rabble seeking handouts, and, thanks to his tenaciously firm anchors deep in the conservative soil, he’ll be there in the morning to greet you cheerily on your way to someone else’s war, safe from the vile hands of unwashed liberals.
Don’t DeLay …Buy one today!
;>)
Jenny #160:
But not all that much better than Janeane. I’ve lost count of how many times one of his guests (and he does get quality in that regard) will be on the verge of reaching some profoud conclusion only to have Al step on them with either some inane comment or a lame attempt at clowning. There are days when I just can’t bear to listen.
This makes me completely crazy and furious, lotus. Poor, poor Afghanistan and the Afghan people. These bloody savage imperialists can go straight to hell– starting with the USSR and ending with us.
Republicans! Spruce up your secure, undisclosed gated community landscape with the latest in ostentatious outdoor ornamentation…Lawn Jockey Joey!
Shouldn’t he be holding defense contractor or pharma money or something?
veruca #118:
I really, really could use a Manhattan on the rocks right about now. After reading the news, better make it a double.
Eli @ 170:
Check the back pocket
;>)
I thought we’d forgiven Michael Brown after his mea culpa, but we’re still angry at RGJoe for his 42 minute confirmation hearing of Brown?
We will forgive HoJo after his mea culpa, where he endorses Ned Lamont and renounces his ill conceived independent bid.
angie #169:
Can’t speak for the Russkies, but we’re weel on our way. *Sigh.*
Thanks, Eli! I will give the block quote thingy a try next time! (-:
Kathie
Or weel be *well* on our way. Or something.
I blame Bush for the debacle and me for the typo.
al-scooter -
I agree. I go about one segment with Al and no matter who the guest, he always mucks it up – it’s unbearable.
The only AAR show I like at this point is Majority Report (sans Janeane), and Sam did mention he might be off that station in a month, which was a shocker. Not sure if it’s about salary negotiations or what — I would really miss Sam!
I have a very close friend at AAR and will try to get the dirt. :)
al-Scooter! Where ya been while we were missin’ ya?
I believe I quote egregious when I recommend “preview” to those who are, like me, learning the fancy-pants thingy for commenting.
Also, it’s always best to add a word or two “in the clear” at the end of the post, just to be sure you haven’t passed the thingy down to other commenters after you….
Okay, TSF – how does one preview? For something so user-friendly, i certainly am a dunce!
Kathie
Wow Jane – do you or anyone on the ground happen to know if Maxine is expcted to stick around on Monday? Surely Big Dawg would not NOT embrace her with or without baaa baaa little lambchop Boxer’s approval.
Now I dunno if Big Dawg is supposed to provide Boxer cover but the timing supports the theory. What I know is Boxer’s lost this ole California democrat’s respect and support forever.
lotus #179:
Aw, that’s really sweet!
Real (work) life has intervened following my trip to the Bay Area last weekend, and it’s all I can do to keep up with postings let alone comments!
I really wanted to post in Christy’s thread this morning:
Saturday, July 22nd. It was hot in Los Angeles. My partners are FDL commenters and readers. The boss is Captain Smith.”
Things good with you?
Kathie, scroll down to the very bottom of the page — to the right of the Submit Comment button.
Well, let’s see . . . zennurse accounted for, lhp and al-Scooter piping up again . . . guess the only ones I’m remembering to wonder what-they’re-up-to-today are Mary, HopeSAT, and Priscilla, Queen of the Beach.
You?
TSF, you do indeed quote Tne Egregious.
Al Franken steps on guests just as they’re about to make a point? I don’t have radio access to Al, but sounds like the went to the Charlie Rose School. Wonderful guest, good question, why don’t you let the guest answer it. Infuriates me re:Rose.
Ya don’t suppose they know about EPU?
Instead of clicking on the “Submit Comment” button below the box where we type our comments, hit the button that says “Preview.”
Your comment will appear directly above the comment box, just as it is going to appear in the comments. You can edit it and re-”Preview” until you are satisfied. Then hit “Submit Comment.”
This is how some more experienced commenters avoid many typos.
This is how some more experienced commenters avoid many typos.
I rely on infallibility.
It’s not working out so well.
A day of frolickin’ with my lambie pals, al-Scoots — how could things been anything BUT good with me?! (And not a minute too soon, after this week’s news.)
Well I guess I need to preview the word the. Duh.
New thread.
lotus and Christy :)
Pull up a chair for freash apple cake. yum!
Eureka, if it weren’t for this 1,000 miles between us, I’d hug your neck! But, darlin’, ya hit the wrong thread wif it — so how ’bout hauling it over to Pull Up for us?
Do you cook that icing any, or just stir it up?
The Lamont campaign needs to get Ms Walters to do some radio ads for him. It would play very well in the African-American community and help to negate Bubba’s last minute HoJoe show.
Aha! Lotus, TSF and Eli – I found the problem. There IS no ‘preview’ button on Safari – i checked on Firefox, which I just downloaded yesterday, and it was there! Now, I just have to figure out Firefox – it is quite different than IE ot Safari.
Thanks, all!!!
Kathie
Kathie -
I use Safari and have a preview button. That’s so odd!
Jenny – odd is right! Just my luck! But there never has been a preview button; I mean, I could have figured it out if there were! (-: Maybe I have an old version of Safari ??? Blast!
Maybe I have an old version of Safari ???
Pre-preview?
Teddy – if you’re still here – I read in my paper this morning that Boxer is leading the charge in the Senate against a bill that would criminalize the transporting of a minor across state lines to have an abortion without parental consent.
Would love to know what Cab-Ride’s position is on this bill, and how Boxer would reconcile her support of Joe if he is also against this bill, as well.
Good questions for both of them, and maybe for NARAL and PP, too, with respect to their endorsements.
Pre-preview? Yup – that must be it! Who would have thought?! It however appears that I am post-preview.
Kathlein, that must be it. Older version of Safari. I’ve been using the latest version since I came to FDL (not long) so… Oh well, you can just proofread your posts the old fashioned way. :)
FWIW, Timmeh is interviewing Friedman (who’s leaving from the studio to catch his flight to Israel/Syria) on CNBC right now.
To RevDeb
OT
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Naw, not me, what were the Kerry pickets?
Haven’t carried a picket since the 60’s…
Jack
As fate would have it, I’m lucky enough to be living in Maxine Waters’ Congressional District in California.
She is a true and righteous voice for truth, justice, and the “real” American way.
I’m betting with Steve Gilliard that she will bring more voters to Lamont than Bubba will bring back to Joe.
I think one reason Clinton is there in CT now is so that he can go back after the primary in August and, if Joe loses (still a very big “if” despite current “Lamontentum”), give him the “wise man” lecture about getting out of the race for the “good of the country and the good of the Party.”
I just hope Joe listens when Bill tells him it’s time for him to go.
Hey guys…I am watching closely here in UK and so hope Lamont wins. I have seen recently that Bill C will be there hooting for Lieb….he has always been a clever guy politically and there are a couple of obvious reasons I can see why he is doing this…but surely Clinton is now part of the political estatablishment and soiled goods as far as integrity goes…Joe needs to lose his seat because he is a political animal letting vested interests guide his outlook as opposed to his core voters. This is a democracy…Joe is not entitled to anything…I hope Lamont wins and becomes a truly trepresentaive senator for the state and the party. May honesty and trust prevail and political shenanigans go out the window…Joe you are tainted goods and as a foreigner looking in I wouldnt buy a used car from you!!
I rely on infallibility.
Eli, that should be spelled ‘inphalabilittee’.
-Kevin, Lord of Everything You Know Is Wrong
I’ll say again what I’ve been saying: the general election is over three months away. After Lieberman becomes Loserman by losing to Lamont in the primary, he will lose a lot of money and a lot of respect. Once he declares independent, he makes a lot of enemies. Everything that Lieberman loses, Lamont picks up.
If the general election were the day after the primary, I would worry. It isn’t. Unless Lamont has a very nasty skeleton in the closet, he will be the next senator from Connecticut.