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Just a reminder that tomorrow at 2pm PDT/5pm EDT we'll be having George Soros around to discuss his book The Age of Fallibility: Consequence of the War on Terror. Week one of the discussion can be found here. It's quite a groundbreaking book that stands in the vanguard of deconstructing the abjectly dishonest right-wing narrative which has haunted our lives and poisoned our culture for the past five years.
As Pach said last week, the book poses many important questions:
[H]ow can we as progressives reorient our society so that it comprehends that the so-called war on terror is a fallacy, a false metaphor? How do we do this when even Democrats intone the language of the "war on terror" to explain their policies and positions? How do we educate the culture so that it understands that the very notion of the "war on terror" we currently accept uncritically is entirely false?
I believe this is an important discussion, one that we've written about in the past which always provokes a lively debate. We are grateful that Mr. Soros will be stopping by and contributing his thoughts to this critical conversation, so please join us.
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Fitz?
Woohoo!
I’ll definitely be here for this one.
I wanna Fitz too
Uproot the occupations!
I haven’t had a chance to read the book, but I will try to be here for the discussion.
Has Soros ever been asked if he has any interest in becoming the anti-Murdoch?
The entry barriers/costs to media access wouldn’t be prohibitive to him.
Think of it: a progressive cable news network, where the likes of Jane and Christy would be the pundits of record.
Has Soros ever been asked if he has any interest in becoming the anti-Murdoch?
This is the question that is uppermost in my mind when someone with nigh-infinite money says that they will do *anything* to defeat Bush.
Either there’s a disconnect somewhere, or it’s not *just* a matter of cash. In Soros’s case, I think the last Book Club post on his book said something about him disdaining media in general.
When I say “not just a matter of cash”, i’m talking in terms of what it takes to create a media empire - are there non-monetaty barriers to entry? Or possibly just to building a big enough audience to make the enterprise worthwhile.
It really would be nice to have a counterweight to Fox and… well, everyone.
[mod: this is an extremely graphic photo at billmon’s site. you may have already seen it, and probably don’t want to see it again. if you haven’t seen it, you may want to skip it or at least prepare yourself. it is VERY disturbing.]
(Apologies) Very OT but Billmon nails the M-E crisis;
http://billmon.org/archives/002551.html
I need to listen to some Tears for Fears.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQNC-SLG3lo
This cake is Fabulous
Fresh Apple Cake
This recipe ran in the Arkansas Times, originally gleaned from a 93 year old woman in Memphis.
For apples try Golden Delicious or a blend of apples. It’s best to use sweet or slightly tart apples that have a soft texture when baked. But whatever you do, use corn oil. Previous incarnations using canola or other vegetable oils were disastrous. Consider yourself warned….
1 Cup Corn Oil
2 Cups Sugar
2 Large Eggs
2 1/2 Cups All Purpose Flour
1 teaspoon Salt
1 teaspoon Baking Soda
2 teaspoons Baking Powder
2 teaspoons Cinnamon
5 Cups Chopped fresh Apples ( 4-5 medium)
1 Cup Chopped Pecans
1/4 Cup Pecan halves to sprinkle on top
Peel, core and chop apples. Set them aside. Beat the eggs, sugar and oil-make sure you use corn oil. Sift together the other dry ingredients and stir them into the egg, oil and sugar mixture. the batter will be fairly stiff and will turn a light brown or off white color. Fold in the apples and chopped pecans and spoon the batter into a well-greased bundt or angel food pan. If nuts always seem to sink to the bottom of your cakes and breads, warm the pecans for a few minutes in the oven before adding them to the batter.
Bake the cake at 350 for 1 hour and let it cool in the pan. To remove it from the pan, put a plate on top of the bundt or angel food pan and turn. gently lift the pan off-you may need to use a slight shimmying motion-and the cake will remain on the plate, ready for icing. The caramel icing below is easy to make and a perfect compliment to the cake, adding a hint of county-fair caramel apple flavor and just the right amount of sweetness without being overwhelming.
Easy Caramel Icing
1/2 Cup Sugar
1/2 Stick (1/4 Cup) butter or Margarine
1/4 Cup Evaporated milk
1/2 Cup Powdered Sugar
1 teaspoon vanilla
shoot! I did it again, sorry
Speaking of Tears for Fears… The version of “Mad World” from Donnie Darko is so beautiful but I can’t find a way to download it without buying the whole soundtrack.
I watch it on YouTube, though.
Here’s the YouTube version of “Mad World”… so gorgeous!
http://tinyurl.com/fak8w
Jane,
Can you find out if we can get our copies of his book autographed??? He, along with you, Christy, Kos, Wolcott and Billmon give me hope for my country.
Not everybody wants to rule the world. Neocons sure do, though. Maybe someday they’ll be in a room where the light can’t find them.
Jenny from the Blog @ 13.
Thnx for that.
Can someone invite Hannity?
I’m sure Mr. Soros would love to clear up all Hannity’s little boogie-man fears. And I’m sure Sean would love to hear about such an interesting and successful person see the world that Hannity lives in.
moeman 16 -
You’re welcome! Actually, here’s a better version (Gary Jules) with very cool animation (and then I’m done with the OT’s. :)
http://tinyurl.com/hglcj
I’m just getting to “CTG”.
Never claimed a kludge had timeliness.
But, at least I’m getting to it.
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Soros should be very enlightening.
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Wonder if Mary’s (’it ain’t classified if it’s illegal’ - THAT Mary) around at all?
lhp -
Didja see the EPU territory of the LateNight FDL?
Info re: LTE.
sort of OT, sort of not — A friend of mine who’s a hedge fund trader sent me an email that I thought you all might find interesting. I’ve edited it a bit because although I understand his shorthand, not everyone can. (It took years of practice.)
“Iran exports approximately 4 million barrels of oil a day. Iran’s support for Hezbollah costs about $250 million a year. From the financial viewpoint of the Mullahs, a $6 move in oil futures and they recover the entire annual cost of supporting Hezbollah in a day. It’s all about oil. If oil was at not at $70, Iran and its proxy would be as quiet as church mice.”
Well, that’s one answer to the question of why Iran would back a move by Hezbollah now. The conventional wisdom is that Iran wants to divert attention from its nuclear program. But maybe it’s one big commodities play.
Damn! I take it back. ‘Twas next thread.
moeman! DAMMIT! You can’t do that to people without MAJOR warning!
Some of us have been haunted by that photo since early yesterday, and to run into again was something I didn’t need and hoped never to repeat.
Would the moderator please consider pulling moeman’s 9 so that he can repost it with adequate warning for later arrivers?
moeman - lotus is spot on here. That needs a warning. geez
Eli @ 8
It could be called the Off Ox Network.
when mushbrain strikes, time for kludge to step away from kbd.
later folks…
Christy,
Thought you might be interested to know that you were mentioned by name yesterday on a Champaign, Illinois radio station WDWS on their morning program “Penny for your thoughts” by the host Jim Turpin.
Seems as though you activism has even reached the cornfields of Illinois and may be striking fear into the hearts of Republicans and wayward Dems. Your efforts on behalf of Lamont, or according to the host, your activities aimed at defeating NoMoJo, have pricked the ears of Mid-America.
I use the word “pricked” with all due passion as this station, and the host of the program are Republican sympathisizers, supported by the fact that they carry limp “pricked” Limpbaugh starting at 11:00 am each morning.
Wow, Jenny, that was pretty. Okay, I’ve got one for you. Muse live doing “Falling Down.” Matt Bellamy has an octave range that will blown your mind, and the guy plays a wicked guitar and even classical piano to boot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltDE8xcNws0
moeman’s 9 edited with warning from the moderator
that is gruesome. is it real?
that is gruesome. is it real?
Too horrible not to be.
If we’re posting beautiful songs, then I’ll offer up one of my favorites: Augie March - Asleep In Perfection.
Christy, you also got a mention on CNN’s site regarding the gropenator in chief.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/i.....index.html
Yep, Teddy, I first saw it on MFI’s blog and he does not lie.
Warning to all– real war results in all their gore will be seen here.
http://gorillasguides.blogspot.com/
Eli, I’ll do yours if you do mine. ;)
Bless your heart, Teddy. I assume it’s real, since mfi’s site was where we saw it yesterday — HOWEVER — I recall a pink garment there.
I’m sorry you had to be subjected to it, but you’ve certainly done a great service to FDL here.
There’s a very funny column in the NYT by Roger Cohen. If you can get behind the Select wall, here’s the link: http://select.nytimes.com/iht/.....umns/Roger Cohen
Titled “The ‘Decider’ Has Rules, All of Them Are Big, ‘Yo’” it includes the following gem in its 20 cardinal rules of the American President:
3) Never miss an opportunity to hammer the United Nations, a cease-fire-pushing, mealy-mouthed, wasteful, puny, suspiciously Gallic and conspicuously un-Texan organization with a taste for temporizing with terrorists.
lotus– the garment is blue there too, you are thinking of another picture there. ;(
Why hasn’t George Soros funded/created the Anti Fox News? Why haven’t any of these rich people on the side of the angels done the MAIN SINGLE THING THAT IS NEEDED - ANTI-MSM TV? Glad you wrote a book, George. That’s gonna help a lot.
I look forward to asking him this tomorrow.
Eli, I’ll do yours if you do mine. ;)
Watching/listening now. His voice is pretty impressive, but the song’s a little slow for me.
Carryover from previous …..
What was the resolution with Zen?
I realized as I was reading the previous thread about Maxine and Boxer that other than the people I have met or seen on TV, I have no idea if our posters are black, white, brown, yellow or “other” and I don’t care. We really live in a community here where that doesn’t matter.
We may take it for granted that it doesn’t matter to us because that’s who we are, but it really is amazing if you step back and see it. Sigh. Another reason to love the community here.
kirby, zenn’s “just” got a fried motherboard. Whew!
And, kirby, I love your wonderful observation.
did you have Javascript turned off by default in your old Safari? I believe preview uses that scripting program…
Watching/listening now. His voice is pretty impressive, but the song’s a little slow for me.
Oh, you want something a little spicier, eh? That was one of their tamer pieces. Try this (disregard the first 10 secs a rock station intro):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6-AnqATZa0
Apologies to those that were caught off guard by my link to Billmon’s graphically real post. I appreciate the added moderation and should have prepped a WARning.
While I’m here, I recommend some important Wolcott (no pictures this time, just more biting reality);
http://jameswolcott.com/archiv.....damned.php
Peace.
SharonW and Eli -
Fantastic videos!
Thank you, moeman. Peace to you too. Peace to all.
Oh, you want something a little spicier, eh? That was one of their tamer pieces. Try this (disregard the first 10 secs a rock station intro):
Oh yeah, that’s the stuff. I liked the intro, too…
Sure wish the war supporters and haters of Arabs could see those pictures with no warning, though. But then again, they would probably do a happy dance with glee.
Those poor victims and their families have no warning except the sounds of bombs and missiles and bullets and landmines exploding.
BTW, Eli, who is Augie March? Never heard of him, but the voice is fantastic. Damn, people here have good taste.
BTW, Eli, who is Augie March? Never heard of him, but the voice is fantastic.
Honestly, I’m not entirely sure. It’s the only song of his I’ve found that I’ve actually liked, but I like it a lot. I’m going to poke around on YouTube and see if any of his other stuff there is good.
new thread — more profiteering
FWIW, Timmeh is interviewing Friedman (who’s leaving from the studio to catch his flight to Israel/Syria) on CNBC right now.
Another one of my favorite voices…
Oh well, that visit is predictable. His flat head will be protected and he can fill his columns with more of his tripe, lotus.
Oh yeah, that’s the stuff. I liked the intro, too…
Great! It’s from their new CD “Black Holes and Revelations” just released this month. Muse does everything and combines it all rock, blues, punk, classical. Each song is different from the next and laden in texture. Bellamy has talent coming out the whazoo, but the three of them as a group are incredibly tight. I haven’t been as impressed with a group like this since Pink Floyd.
My love affair all started when my son gave me their “Absolution” CD for Xmas. He thought I’d enjoy it because of one tune that was Beatlesque, but that wasn’t the half of it. The whole thing blew me away. :)
Indeed, angie.
Friedman is so in love with his own faux-celebrity!
He sure is full of that tonight, *ilson.
So he’s not headed for Beruit?
I guess if the world’s flat, that means there’s no cover from the airstrikes, so maybe he’s onto something.
best thing about the pay for view ed page. i thank the nyt for sparing me.
sincerely.
Wow, Eli, one your favorite voice sounds just like Crash Test Dummies. I thought nobody else sounded like that. This is one of their greats. Listen to words, they’re excellent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqEFb7DrQIA
If I could just purchase Rich and Dowd, I’d consider that.
Prolly rule it out, but consider it.
Ironically, I don’t really like Crash Test Dummies, although I do kinda like the video.
I wanted to post “Please Remember Me”, which is my favorite Swans song, but there’s no video for it.
Oh my. I had no idea they did a video for “New Mind”…
The sex in your soul will damn you to hell!
Missiles Hit a Lebanese TV Station Hard
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 6:52 p.m. ET
BEIRUT, Lebanon (AP) — Israel has been unable to silence Hezbollah’s television station, its powerful voice at home and in the Arab world, despite 11 days of bombing. But warplanes on Saturday did knock a Lebanese station often critical of the guerrillas off the air in parts of the country.
Lebanese Broadcasting Corp. TV appeared to have gotten caught in Israel’s campaign to prevent Hezbollah from communicating among its fighters and spreading its word in a war that has played out on television to viewers across the Middle East — bumping even the violence in Iraq.
. . .
…sorry for my drive by, but Jane, if you are reading this…there is a wonderful organizer in Athol, Mass (should you be in that area) named Hattie Nestle (sp) who organizes protests against the war and is encouraging people to sign a petition for bush impeachment…my sister says she has gone to jail for her protesting in Mass and New Hampshire and has an antiques barn in Athol where she uses the profits for organizing and bailing herself out of jail…she has the war dead in huge numbers painted on her barn there…maybe you will see her or are you only in CT?…sorry to interrupt, carry on…
spidey! It’s not dark! What are YOU doing out?
The sex in your soul will damn you to hell!
Well now, that was just a bit edgy. LOL Okay, I’ll take your Swan song and raise you one Chocolate Jesus by Waits:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnjkxMj1jy0
Tom Ricks’ new book will be excerpted serially in WaPo:
In Iraq, Military Forgot the Lessons of Vietnam
Early Missteps by U.S. Left Troops Unprepared for Guerrilla Warfare
By Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, July 23, 2006; Page A13
The real war in Iraq — the one to determine the future of the country — began on Aug. 7, 2003, when a car bomb exploded outside the Jordanian Embassy, killing 11 and wounding more than 50.
. . .
I’m happy to say that my copy of The Age of Fallibility came today. I hope I can finish by 4 p.m. Central.
Tom Waits rocks.
I checked for more Augie March, and the only song I particularly liked was this one.
Oh, I liked that one, Eli…very much. Wasn’t sure you were still here. This is turning into a private party. :)
Okay another Muse for you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL77M3SSMQM
Nice. Okay, here’s one of my all-time favorites.
LOL! The beginning was hysterical, sort of reminds me of the M.E. without the funny part.
I liked the music, too. Okay, I’ll leave you with one last Muse, because frankly when I get stuck on a new group I get stuck and I’m not sure how much you’d appreciate Fiona Apple.
This is Newborn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZrxVng6YBc
Do enjoy. This was lots of fun. Good music feeds my soul. :)
Tom Waits is a master poet and gift.