
When we sit down and think about candidates for Blue America, we are very careful. If one of us senses that someone isn’t a committed progressive, or that someone smells like they might sell out to big money interests once they get to D.C., like so many politicians from both parties do, they are off the list.
Bruce Braley is a complete natural for us. What might throw some people isn’t anything Bruce says — he’s right on on every single issue — but the fact that the DCCC seems to be targeting his race. In fact, 2 weeks ago they got him the coveted national radio slot to respond to Bush’s Saturday address.
No need to worry. The mountain came to Bruce, and I’m going to explain why.
First some basic facts about Iowa’s first congressional district, where the Republican incumbent, Jim Nussle, is making a pointless bid to run for governor. It’s a moderate district that both Gore and Kerry won. In fact, 4 years of George Bush made IA-01 quite a bit more Democratic in the 2004 election than it had been in 2000.
That, of course, is why the DCCC is so excited about this open seat, although wait a minute and I’ll explain about why they’re also excited about Bruce. The district includes most of northeast Iowa, including Dubuque, Davenport/Bettendorf and Waterloo.
To better understand the political make-up of the district, look at 2 other Iowa congressmen for a moment. Jim Leach of Iowa is a relatively moderate Republican (though quite a bit to the right of the American mainstream). In fact, Leach has the third least reactionary voting record of any Republican in the House, with a Progressive Punch score of 28.65.
The far western end of Iowa sends Steve King to Congress and, with a score of 2.35, he’s been far more of a right-wing extremist than even Tom DeLay, one of the 20 most fanatical in the whole Congress. In between these two Iowa Republicans sat Jim Nussle. When he ran for office, Nussle tried painting himself as another Leach. When it came to voting, he’s far closer to King (his score is 7.34– out of 100!) and he has been further to the right than even nut cases like Tom Tancredo (KKK-CO) and John Hostettler (R-IN). The DMI score-card, which measures how helpful a congressman’s votes are on middle class issues, rates Nussle a big fat zero (and gives him an F).
Now, the candidate the Republicans have come up with to replace him, multimillionaire restaurateur Michael Whalen, is far to the right of even Nussle. Although he’ll be a dependable Bush/corporate rubber stamp on immigration "policy"– let in all the undocumented laborers possible to hold wages down and keep unions weak– Whalen’s right wing agenda is most dangerous to Iowans when it comes to his mania for privatizing (abolishing) Social Security.
Whalen’s right wing jihad against Social Security may be good news for Bruce Braley since Iowa’s first congressional district has one of the highest percentages of senior citizens in the U.S. (14.5% v 12.4%).
And although knee-jerk right wing responses to women’s right to choice and equality for gay people won’t hurt him too badly among some Iowans, his past violent opposition to ethanol– calling it a "boondoggle"– isn’t what Iowans, or most Americans, want to hear from someone running for congress.
Interestingly, when asked to name his idea of a role model for himself if he ever makes it to the House, Whalen picked Mike Pence (R-IN), a man with the 15th most reactionary voting record in Congress who has a perfect voting record of always under all circumstances ignoring his constituents’ needs to support Big Business’ demands. If Whalen gets into Congress and he models himself on Pence, Iowa farmers, Iowa small businessmen, Iowa working men and women, Iowa’s middle class, Iowa’s women, Iowa’s children will all be worse off.
Meanwhile Bush Regime deadenders like Dick Cheney and Karl Rove, who most GOP candidates have begged to stay away from their districts, have been invited into eastern Iowa by Whalen.
Bruce Braley has been campaigning with mainstream Democrats like John Edwards, Mark Warner, Evan Bayh and Iowa’s popular retiring governor, Tom Vilsack. Quite a difference.
Bruce, a 48 year old attorney, grew up in a small Iowa town, and both of his parents grew up on farms during the Depression.
"When people had problems," he told me last week, "they didn’t ask you what party you belonged to, they asked what they could do to help. That attitude has been missing in Congress and people are looking for strong independent voices and not just for candidates focusing on their next election campaign."
Bruce is a common sense problem solver with Main Street values, not an ideologue and not a Wall Street values kind of guy like his opponent.
"I’m not running for Congress so I can take safe, comfortable positions that won’t change things for the better and improve the lives of people in my district and in this country."
And if you don’t know much about Iowa, you might think Bruce’s positions on issues are too progressive. But that takes us back to how he convinced the DCCC to get behind his campaign.
I mean, Rahm Emanuel does not encourage — I’m being polite — Democratic challengers to get behind Jack Murtha’s position on ending the occupation of Iraq. And yet, Bruce doesn’t mince words:
"It is time for President Bush to announce a timeline for the responsible withdrawal of American troops from Iraq. While it is important to provide the means for Iraqi self-government, it is time to begin bringing our troops home."
Not the D-Trip’s standard position.
And when it comes to healthcare… well, it’s a position made for working and middle class Americans, not for politicians looking for bribes contributions from Big Pharma and HMOs. Look though Democratic challengers’ websites and tell me how many you find that even mention a woman’s right to choice. Or just believe me– almost none. Now look at Bruce’s issue page on his site.
"I support the Supreme Court’s ruling in Roe v. Wade and believe it is settled law."
Powerful– and no wiggle room to compromise with superstitious, brainwashed primitives. That’s why Bruce is our kind of candidate? But Rahm’s? So I asked Bruce about it:
"I wouldn’t change who I am to run for office. I am running to be a strong voice for change and to speak out for people who don’t have a voice in Washington. I met with Rahm several times and I convinced him that my positions are the mainstream positions in this district. he listened and he understood. Even Republicans like Chuck Grassley and Jim Leach have come out for bringing the troops home. Iowa has a disproportionately large number of citizens in the National Guard. And they’re not young kids; these are people with careers and families. People here are opposed to this occupation."
I’m leaving out one issue. It’s the issue that Bruce spoke about that impressed me most. His understanding of health care affordability is phenomenal. I haven’t heard anyone speak about it as well since Doctor Howard Dean. You can read about on Bruce’s website or, better yet, you can join in our live discussion with Bruce today in the comments. (Hint: Bush’ rip off health care bill is 415 pages. Unlike most congressmen, Bruce read it — and understands it…and, more important, knows how to cure it.)
Bruce is the newest addition to the Blue America Communities ACT BLUE Page. Let’s make sure he feels some love.
We have some great contributions as little incentive today. If you haven’t heard of Matthew Grimm and The Red Smear, you’re missing a great band, sort of a cross between the Clash and Wilco. They’re Iowa’s best rock’n'roll band — intense, melodic and political — and Matthew has signed a dozen CDs of his new album, DAWN’S EARLY APOCALYPSE, for today. If you want one, be one of the first 12 people to add one cent to a donation to Bruce’s campaign. Maybe you’re not a rocker? Peter Clothier is a neighbor of mine. He is also a blogger and an author. His brand new book, THE REAL BUSH DIARIES, is based on his blog and he’s signed a dozen copies. If you’d like one, be one of the first dozen to add two cents to your contribution to Bruce.
[As Bruce Braley was nice enough to take a little time from his campaigning to be here and chat with us today, please keep your comments on topic in this thread. Comments pertaining to other issues can be discussed in the prior thread. Much appreciated! -- CHS]



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Howie Fitz Jane Redd Rootz Iowa
Roootz!!!1one!!11
haha thunder, eat my dust
*sniff* Um, I read the ENTIRE POST first!
(Actually no, but now I did.)
Ok Howie, you talked me into donating (like always)!
Oh, you were first, huh? Sometimes I send the first donor something special as a secret thank you. hehe
Thanks so much Howie — great article, as always, on a great progressive candidate. :)
Bruce really impressed me when I spoke with him on the phone. I can’t wait for him to explain the “donut hole” in Bush’s health care bill. It shocked me.
I’m hearing buzz on the CT blogs that the kiss float and Lamont supporters will be gathering outside the Clinton event on Monday.
I think it would be awesome if the Lamont supporters who were attending the Clinton event were to walk out after Clinton speaks and right as Lieberman is getting started. The Lamont folks in the audience would walk right out the front door and congregate withthe kiss float outside along with all of the other Lamont supporters.
The message that we should articulate in our comments to the media would be that we listened to Clinton because we respect him as a true Democrat who has done his duty to his country, but that we have no interest in listening to Lieberman, who is betraying his party by petitioning to run in his own party should he lose the primary and who has hurt our country by supporting Bush’s reckless war and other policies.
After the Lamont supporters have made this statement, they can simply point at the Kiss Float and say, Lieberman and Bush have done so much damage to our country – it is time for this to stop. Time to support a man who will stand up for the people of Connecticut and against Bush’s failed policies. It is time for Ned Lamont.
The health care bill was welfare for HMO’s and big pharma. Bought (via campaign contributions) by same.
I’m in. Will make a contribution right after these regularly scheduled errands.
Howie, the campaign website has some additional information about Bruce — he is such a solid candidate. And a perfect fit for Iowa (and much of the heartland, frankly…). Good choice for Blue America today.
I know. I’d rate this race as one of the Democrats’ most solid shots for a pick-up in the House. And the fact the he’s not just a Democrat but also a progressive makes it all the better.
Iowa has always been a hugely interesting creative place – a true NYC out on the plains. (Full disclosure, some years back I was the factotum of Sen. Dick Clark of Iowa after he’d been ousted by relig-r tool Jepsen. I absorbed many many things about Iowa.) Thanks Howie, you are amazing and I will follow this one and ActBlue it.
Howie in da house!
I’m in the midst of writing a big (for me) contract proposal – better concetrate on that. If I ink the deal I’ll celebrate at ActBlue!
Doesn’t seem that many have seen the panel on C-SPAN at the Harlem Book festival about the stealing of the 2000/4 elections.
It was as definitive a description of the thefts as I’ve ever seen. Greg Palast, Paul Robeson Jr. and Steve Freedman, the major researcher of the exit poll data from UPenn were among the panelists.
Where is everybody talking about this????
[ Moderator: it was a live presentation — I caught the tailend of it as it was wrapping up. We heard no advance warning of the presentation — it will be replayed doubtlessly. ]
thunder 3 – the trick is be mindless, don’t bother with main post, then you win :)
enjoy your thoughts, btw
I have to agree with Bruce’s opponent on the ethanol program being a boondoggle. At least, in terms of growing corn to make it. Corn is the most fertilizer intensive (thus energy intensive) of our major crops, and when you add up all the energy inputs required to create ethanol from corn, you end up with a net deficit. It is welfare for Archers Daniel Midland.
But I can see how that position could be unpopular in Iowa. And nothing else about MW is remotely meritable, so if this helps keep him out and get Bruce in, so be it.
Howie, I love these posts of yours. Could you provide a bit more info on what committees Nussle sat on, as well as what committee assignments Braley might request?
Or is that too…. ‘personal’ for the Internet? (Not trying to be a troll – just trying to figure out where he’d like to put his energy in Congress once he’s elected, as well as also trying to figure out what getting rid of Nussle would mean in terms of committee assignments…)
And if you don’t want to post the info, I’m sure you’ll let us know.
OT question here:
so how do I make those youtube windows work ???
I wanted to watch the “hardball” video, but the window doesn’t download any “content”
do I have to instal some youtube software ???
Windows nt on a Dell POS (piece of shit), in case you need to know
is there a transcript of the exchange ???
somebody help me out or I’ll kill this puppy
(wink)
Welcome, Howie — Bruce Braley sounds like a real deal progressive Democrat, who has what it takes to honestly represent the people of Iowa.
Eric at 15 — we do a regular spotlight of a progressive candidate every single Saturday at this time. Perhaps you could pose your question later — or on another thread? (She says politely trying to keep this thread on topic, because it is the polite thing to do, given that the candidate himself will be here to chat soon. Thanks.) — CHS
ifthethunderdontgetya (#17)- Whalen has backed away from that now that’s he’s running. Suddenly he’s claiming he’s all for ethanol.
Good morning–
It is my pleasure to be blogging with you all today. Being inside right now is a good break from the heat. It’s summer time in Iowa, which means two things: parades and county fairs. I’ve been to one looooong parade already today in Waverly, and I’ll be hitting two major county fairs (Buchanan and Jones Counties) before the sun goes down.
I’ll be taking your questions from here on out, so let’s begin. Thanks again for inviting me.
And thanks to Howie for the great write-up.
Freepatriot at 19 — you just click once on the arrow to play, and then click again, and the YouTube video ought to say that it is loading and will start automatically. HTH!
I met with Rahm several times and I convinced him that my positions are the mainstream positions in this district. he listened and he understood.
Rahm finally gets it?
freepatriot-
To make the YouTube windows work, click right on the “arrow” logo in mid-window. If you don’t see one, first try reloading your browser.
It’s also possible that your browser isn’t reading the files properly. If you have Safari, try using it. If you have Firefox, try that. IE is the funkiest of browser bugginess, so it may be an IE issue.
Do not killl your puppy. Puppy will probably behave better with a little more Browser Care and Feeding ;-)
You sure know how to pick ‘em, Howie! Thanks for all the effort you put into finding and vetting these candidates. My weekly vig to Blue America went up today — I doubled mine to $50.01.
It’s also great news that the DCCC is educable by a candidate who speaks from his heart and doesn’t knuckle under. Compare Rahm’s performance with the tin ear exhibited in the NYT article by Mrs. E.D.ole:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07…..nted=print
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Good morning, Bruce — thanks so much for coming by to chat with our readers! And thanks for stepping forward to run for office — great job thus far!
Welcome Bruce — I just donated. I LOVE this Blue America feature on Saturdays. Being able to support the campaign of someone who actually will represent my values in congress has become the only antidote (for me) to the almost overwhelming depression I feel about my country lately.
readeroftealeaves, let’s ask Bruce what committee he wants to be on when he gets here, which shuld be any minute. As for Nussle, he’s the chairman of the House Budget Committee. I should have mentioned that since he’s done a particularly abysmal job at it.
Bruce, I was talking with a friend last Thursday who has fallen into the donut hole. She is completely disabled with bipolar disease, and her meds are over $600 a month. It’s really horrific, as her only income is SSI. Is there any hope for people in this situation?
Chair of House Budget Comm?!! Eeeeekkkkkkk!!
Okay, I’m in.
But go ahead and send CD to Kewalo; I notice she especially loves ‘em and I’m an iTunes addict on my end ;-)
WELCOME Bruce! Good to see you again! Please explain the donut hole to everyone. You did it so well that I didn’t put it in the story and left it for you to do live. I bet most people don’t even know what it is (as I didn’t).
Good morning, Bruce
I knows its a boring question, but what are your views on the campaign finance system, and money in politics generally?
Hello Mr. Braley and thanks for chatting with us today. I hope you are keeping cool!
What are voters in your district telling you they are most concerned about? What are you hearing people will go to the polls and vote on this fall?
Thanks again for stopping by….
Yo CHS, that don’t work
the little “timer” window shows 0:00/0:00, and when I click the play button the program just cycles thru a no content play.
there’s nothing to see in the window
I just get a “share this video” and “replay this video” window
In response to the question (post #30) as to which committees I would most like to serve on, I think (if I had a choice and if freshman Representatives got the pick of the litter, which they don’t…) it would be the Committee on Education and the Workforce. My wife and my mother are both teachers (my mom, “immortalized” in my first campaign ad which you can see on my website, still is a substitute teacher in my hometown of Brooklyn). Making education fairer and better in the US is a top priority of mine, because quality education today leads to the quality jobs of tomorrow. NCLB has been a huge problem for teachers and students, and I would enjoy working on a daily basis to ensure that the program is fixed and then fully funded.
I also find the work of the House Judiciary Committee fascinating.
Bruce wow, an honor to have you in the house. So how do the tatters of our representive democracy stop what is going on? How can you help?
Freepatriot at 36 — try clicking the “replay” button and see if that works. And can we continue this conversation on the previous thread, please, since Bruce was kind enough to take time away from campaigning to chat with us today and all, I think we should try and stay on topic in this thread. Thanks!
I’m with LindaR, Howie and Bruce.
Linda, start with small stones and we can build it (it?…for instance, a wall between church and state). The other side wants us depressed and powerless, don’t let them have (it).
ifthethunderdontgetya/40 — I hear ya.
… well, if you join a Democratic majority in the House in 2007, Mr. Braley, I hope for some extremely fascinating work for the Judiciary Committee!
freepatriot you have to download flashplayer
http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer
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That’s a nice picture in front of the feed store, Bruce, make sure you have plenty more of those, and ones like it
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Hi LindaR ;)
Per Howie’s request (post #33), I will do my best to explain the doughnut hole via the keyboard:
Basically, under the Medicare prescription drug bill currently in effect (if you chose a plan), there is first a $250 deductable that you have to pay out of pocket to begin reaching the benefit. Then, your plan kicks in until total drug costs equal $2,250. This is where the notorious ‘Doughnut Hole’ begins. From $2,250 to $5,100 in total drug costs, your plan covers NOTHING. This is a huge flaw in this bill, and a huge problem for seniors. (Once you’re above $5,100, Medicare pays 95% of the costs)
Needless to say, this is hardly a benefit. I believe to proivde a real benefit for seniors, the doughnut hole needs to be closed. Also, the late signup penalty should be eliminated, and Medicare should be able to negotiate lower drug prices, which it is forbidden to do right now.
TeddySanFran @ yes, extremely!
Hi John in Sacramento :)
Bruce at 44 — great explanation on that, concise and to the point. And exactly why I keep seeing seniors where I live in WV trying to decide between their medication and being able to afford food on a daily basis.
Bruce, my understanding is: Because price negotiation is expressly forbidden by the bill, the minute it went into effect, prices of drugs generally used by seniors went up immediately.
so now I’m gonna crash this computer into a download
stand back folks, I have no idea what the hell I’m doin
I have a copy of firefox (that I never use), and it’s downloading some micromedia flash player
if the internets crash in a few seconds, it’s probably because I drive a computer like a Kamakazi
can I be sued for clogging the intertubes ???
Bruce,
Tell us about the make up of your district, is it rural, urban, etc.
What are the major issues you are hearing from the members of your district.
Besides education, what major issues that you want to focus on when elected?
NCLB is a public pestilence. All the teachers that I know despise it. BTW: Interesting article in latest Scientific American on how people develop expertise is relevant to education issues, I think. Just now on the newstands and good research cited in the article. It’s short, and would add good background for an Ed Comm member.
So tired of “we are so fucked” – why can’t we make it different – why why why
Like Rick Penberthy, Bruce has a district with a disproportionately large number of retired people for whom Social Security and and Medicare are life-and-death issues. Today Bush was campaigning in Colorado with a Republican nutcase named O’Donnell who said Social Security is “un-American.” Let’s hope O’Donnell comes to Iowa and campaigns for Whalen.
The other sad fact of the doughnut hole is that the medicare recipient has to continue to pay the premiums while they cannot receive benefits. That is the only way to get to the other side of that hole in their benefits.
I see the doughnut hole being a huge issue in November for seniors.
I know the Medicare drug bill passed by one vote late at night after illegal arm-twisting on the House floor, but how did anyone justify this donut hole? Won’t this lead to people NOT taking their medicine and getting sicker?
On another topic, Bruce, do you see lots of 2008 Presidential hopefuls’ campaigns at the Iowa events you attend? Has their “ground game” started, and does it seem a little early, given what needs accomplishing this fall?
Sharkbabe @ 51 –
We are making it different, right here, right now.
Hi Howie– thanks again for this!
Hi Bruce and welcome– that prescription drug bill was certainly one of the worst swindles ever and continues to this day. Thanks for taking it on. Our elders and the most frail among us deserve much, much better and big pharma and the neanderthals who cobbled together and then cooked the books of this debacle need a swift kick in the pocketbook and head.
In response to katymine (post #49), the makeup of the District is a mix of urban and rural, with three “major” (by Iowa’s standards) urban areas–Waterloo, Dubuque, Davenport/Bettendorf) holding downt the corners of the district, and rural areas in between. In the past, Dems have done OK in the urban parts of the district, but have been hammered in the rural counties. I grew up in a small town and my parents grew up on Iowa farms during the Depression, so I’m working hard to make sure EVERY voter in this district understands that I will be a strong, independent voice of change for each of them, no matter where they live or what issues matter to them.
I’ll have to wander down to the Mill tonight and give Matt shit for being featured here. :-)
Maybe I can bill my band as Iowa’s second best?
I feel compelled to mention that Matt lives in IA-02, Leach’s current district, which Dave Loebsack is trying to turn blue. He’s good people and IA-02 (which includes Cedar Rapids and Iowa City) can do a lot better than Leach. 28/100 might be good for a Republican, but it’s still a failing grade.
Hello, folks. Bruce took time out of his campaigning today to spend time chatting with us. Can we PLEASE stay on topic, out of respect for Bruce and Howie? I, for one, would really appreciate it. Thanks.
“Sharkbabe. mouth. soap.
some assembly required”
just messing with you (’cuz i know you can take it), but perhaps we can “keep it clean” while Mr. Braley is in the house.
So Bruce, can I translate your donut hole notion into a more linear analogy to make sure that I understand correctly?
If I had to figure out how to ‘leap’ a gap of $250, then I’d be on rocky, expensive road till I reached “milepost $2,250.” At which point, I’d fall abruptly into some freezing river, unable to get to the next bit of road at ‘milepost $5,100″.
Like a person going along suddenly encountering a totally broken bridge, with no way to get to the other side…? (The other side being $5,100?)
If so, doesn’t that put a ton of pressure on all 50 states to ‘bridge’ that $2,250 – $5,100 figure…? Is that part of what all the governors are panicking about…?
Bruce,
Good explanation on the “donut hole” and how much it costs the seniors. I am lucky enough to have my 85-year old Mom alive yet, but if she had to make it on my Dad’s pension and SS without our help from time to time it would be impossible. I know there are a lot of Srs. who have to make the decisions Christy just talked about and it is heartbreaking.
Please, please keep this in mind when you go to Washington.
36 years of teaching experience and I really liked hearing about your views on education. Especially since I am retiring in two years.
[CHS notes: what part of Bruce Braley, candidate for the US Congress is here and I have asked repeatedly that we stay on topic in this thread is not being understood? Thanks. Should people want to discuss off-topic information, please do so in the prior thread, as I am monitoring there as well. Don’t make me have to start deleting things. Thanks much.]
Welcome Bruce.
There has been some talk about the Legislature cutting off funding for the Iraq mess, seeing how Bush is disinclined to ever leave. Do you think this is appropriate, as a general principle? Do you think it is warranted today, given how Iraq is going?
And thanks for taking the time to be here!
The donut hole should be the visual for the upcoming election.
Scene: Frustrated and abandoned citizen adrift in a turbulent ocean, clinging to a life-preserver that looks like a donut. As the donut gets soggier and breaks apart, the citizen is in danger of drowning.
The voice over: What kind of Congress builds a government out of a donut?
As the citizen goes under, pull back the shot to reveal a bunch of “fat cats” partying on their yachts.
Ending message: Bring back real government. Vote Democratic 2006.
thunder 9
Not just big pharma welfare, but a huge transfer of wealth from us to them.
My family’s roots are in Waterloo, Mr. Braley, so I am very interested in your race.
What campaign tools — other than face-to-face handshaking — are useful in your district? Will you do direct mail? Will the Democratic party help you identify, phonebank, and GOTV of your supporters? Are there other Iowa races this year, or are you on the top of your ballot in November?
We firedoglake progressives are trying to get in touch with our faith roots, as well, so I’d like to know if the GOP’s got some megachurch activity and support in your area, as well….
I offer to you a handy slogan, popular around these parts, but first used by the GOP to take down the Democratic Congress in 1946:
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ERic 15
Will you let us know if you find out when the panel will be broadcast?
[ Moderator: 11:45pm Sunday, July 23 , Cspan2 ]
In resposne to #54:
There are no formal campaigns that Presidential candidates have begun, but the candidates (unofficial, of course) have already begun to turn out in droves, both Republican and Democratic (helped, of course, by some competitive house races and governor’s race).
The harsh economic reality of my race, however, is that Karl Rove, John McCain, and (this week) Dick Cheney have all done major fundraisers for my opponent, who begins this race with a net worth of close to $125 million, which he can easilty use to fund his race. I am working hard to stay competitive, but we don’t have anyone right now in the Democratic Party who can raise similar amounts for me in my district.
Dear Mr. Braley,
One of the things that bothers me is the lack of oversight by congress, of the Bush administration. Is there anything you could do, as a single representative among hundreds, to shed some light on all of the new secret programs?
Bruce, what is your position vis a vis Israel/Lebanon and the policy and practice of our current govt?
Bruce,
I delighted to read your positions on your website and was happy to donate.
You bring up an interesting point about the rural voters in your district. How is it that a progressive can address the working people of the Red states, who have tended to vote against their own self interest in terms of economics. How do you (and eventually we) talk about this without them tuning us out because of so-called values?
readerOfTeaLeaves (#61) are you a poet? And James Robinson (#58), sorry about the band critique generalization without having heard yours. The Red Smear really are great though and Matthew’s songs sound like they could be coming right out of a FDL chat.
It would be amazing if Loebsack wins in IA-02 because Leach is a fake moderate. But it’s going to be very very tough. Meanwhile Bruce has a great chance to turn IA-01 blue. In fact… Bruce are there any poll numbers you can share with us?
OMG, that guy Whalen is a nutzoid
http://www.ncpa.org/abo/board/mwhalen.html
Click thru the links
Go Bruce Go!
readerOfTeaLeaves @ 11:59 am (#61) – Perhaps a more “linear” way of looking at it is that out of your first $5,100 of prescription drug expenses each year, you’re responsible for at least $3,100 ($250 $2,850) of that. I don’t know how much of the remaining $2,000 the government puts up, but if it’s like regular medical insurance, it’s not all of that total. Of course, if you only have $2,000 of drug expenses per year, this is a good plan. Further, I’d guess that many folks who have $5,000 a year in drug expenses were probably disabled in some way beforehand, and so probably aren’t well off financially.
omg Bruce Braley’s website is purple how incredibly cool is that!
Well Bruce, there’s someone in the Democratic party who could help you raise a lot of money, but he will be wasting his time in Connecticut this Monday.
So we’ll have to all do what we can!
In response to post #70, I think today’s report that the top 5 oil and energy companies will be releasing record 2nd quarter profits of 33 billion is a perfect example of the need for more intense Congressional oversight in ALL areas. I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution 23 years ago, and have spent my professional life holding large special interests accountable for their behavior. I will bring these same skills to the House of Representatives and insist on greater accountability. We all learned as children that there are consequences for breaking rules … something that has been lost in translation during the past 5.5 years of the Bush Administration.
Bruce, in honor of your family’s dedication to education, I just added some more $$ to your efforts.
But I am again struck by how money perverts ideals in our campaign system.
LindaR, #65,
Are you in advertising? what a great visual that a LOT of people could identify with in the present circumstances. Nice idea!
Bruce, Thank you for taking the time to be with us today.
Hi, Bruce:
Thanks for visiting with us today.
Does the senior have to actually buy the scripts in the donut hole to get through it, or is the calculation a theoretical one?
My kids spent some time in Waverly a few years back. Ever since, they’ve dubbed Iowa “Party State” . . . but I think they’re being sarcastic. :)
I’ll be donating later today.
Many thanks to you for stepping up to make this run.
Bruce,
Where is your Dubuque campaign office located?
The architects of the medicare drug plan were in such a hurry to bulldoze it through, they forgot to calculate the timing of seniors hitting the dougnut hole. When I read recently that seniors were beginning to reach it with a much larger number this fall, I thought this bill is going to come back to bite them at election time. Not very bright of the architects. There are going to be a lot of angry seniors & their families…it is going to be interesting how they justify doing this to all the gramma Millies.
In response to #75–I met a woman at the Iowa Dem. State Convention who told me that she had been collecting campaign buttons for years (a collection which dated back to 1820), and she said she had never seen a candidate with purple and gold as their campaign colors. (The University of Northern Iowa is located in my home county, and their colors, coincidentally, are purple and gold).
This is how the bush Medicare bill was bought, by the way.
Business as usual for the K Street lobbyists. As we like to say around here, Had Enough?
. . . and your little dog, too @ 80 –
According to my friend, she has to spend the money to get through the donut hole plus pay the premiums every month, even though she’s getting no benefit!
LindaR at 86 — that’s my understanding of it as well.
Howie @ 73? Poet? Me?! Not a chance ;-)
(Whatever made you think so…?)
My work is related to web development, information design, teaching/learning… some of my work involves ‘usability’, or “how people use stuff and how to help them use it better/easier”.
I was just thinking about Bruce’s ‘donut hole’ analogy and trying to conceptualize it in a different way — but one that my visual cortex could process a little differently.
I was thinking, “Okay, I get the hole (as in ‘it’s empty!) in the donut….but does that hole ever fill up? When you get to $5,100, do you get a filled donut? Do I understand his point accurately??” Because I can understand that if you multiply what Bruce saying by 10 m or more Americans, then those numbers are huge!”
Putting it in terms of one person (my life) is big — but multiply it by millions and… OMG!!
It seems to me that if someone could come up with 3 ’stories’ of individual seniors and their med costs, then show THE DIFFERENCE between:
Costs of these meds before the new act
Costs of these meds now…
Then show the multiplier effect THE DIFFERENCES (it, the amount creamed off by BigPharma) it would better show the impact per state, or per region, and per US, then I think it would really register in people’s minds…
Just thinking of it from an info design point of view, and Bruce’s donut hole is new info for me, so I want to be sure that I understand it correctly.
I simply applied the same information structure used on the video in the preceeding thread (showing cost comparisons), and then applied that information structure to this one Medicare issue.
If this comment doesn’t make sense, please ask for clarification. We can follow up offline if need be.
Bruce — how are family farmers faring with gas prices rising as they have been for the last couple of years? I can imagine this is a difficult time for them, even with the potential for ethanol, it’s got to be a tough balancing act for a lot of farm budgets.
The Medicare drug plan bamboozle is an ugly, ugly story…all dems should be all over this.
One of the starkest contrasts between my opponent and me is our position on the minimum wage. He was the policy chair of the National Center for Policy Analysis–a conservative think tank– when they published a report attacking the minimum wage as bad policy. I have stated publicly and repeatedly that it is a moral outrage for Congress to raise its salaries eight times since minimum wage was last increased for a total increase of nearly $35,000 … which is more than three full-time minimum wage workers make in one year. I have also stated that I will not accept a pay raise as an elected member of Congress until the minimum wage is increased, similar to the Miller-Owens bill.
LindaR 86
Thanks.
So if you can’t pay for all your prescriptions while you’re in the hole, it’ll take you longer to get through to the other side.
Nothing like having the goal posts moved on you when you’re sick.
Meanwhile, those seniors reaching the hole before the mid terms will probably vote against the R’s – - if they haven’t died already from what their meds were treating. :(
re: my 12:06pm comment (#75) – That should say “($250 plus $2,850)”. It would have, if I’d known that plus signs broke the unwritten laws of commenting.
Also, readerOfTeaLeaves, this is one of the things states are panicking over. I don’t know how many folks have $2,250 to $5,100 in prescription drug expenses, but there are probably more than a few, considering what the newer drugs can cost these days.
I recommend that everyone reload this page (IOW, hit ‘F5′). It appears that mentioning drugs and money is a trigger for the spam filters. And Christy, I’m sorry of this comment is going into moderation, too.
Bruce, welcome to FDL. I grew up in Illinois, so I love this from your website:
It is time to shift America’s energy dependence from the Middle East to the Middle West.
All those acres of corn and soybeans could be in higher demand (for ethanol and biodiesel), getting farmers more money, AND we’d reduce our dependence on foreign oil. What could be wrong with that?
Howie and Bruce –
Is anyone linking these Blue America Saturday threads on the web pages of the candidates who appear? It might be interesting to people visiting the candidates’ websites to read these conversations their candidates have had with people — plus, they would have the easy links for more contributions, should they be so inclined.
All those acres could also support wind turbines…
Is Maquoketa in your district? My grandfather was the Mayor there for many years: 40’s and 50’s.
angie @ 12:27 pm (#96) – One might say that at one time Iowa was “wind turbine” country.
O/T New poll numbers give Ned double digit lead. We will start the wave in Ct. and it will be up to the rest of the country to join in.
Oh, and another question about the donut hole: Say you get through it. Does a “new donut” start every year? Does a person have to pay that several thousand dollars every year?
the donut hole when averaged out on a year doesnt exist. The basic idea is that folk with pill bills under $200/month get ‘em free and folk with pill bills from $200-$400/month get it knocked down to $0-$200/month. Folk with pill bills over $400 get em awfully cheap (’catastrophic coverage’).
The trouble is that us older folk often live from month to month on small pensions. Part of the year pills are cheap and then later they get expensive but then months later in a new year they get cheap again. Feast and famine…
well, LindaR, I like visiting the candidate websites for more issue and biographical information, but I think it’s important that contributions to candidates Howie brings to our attention continue to flow through the Blue America site. Since we’re trying to build something here, showing our aggregate power is part of that.
It’s important to note that the entire contribution made on ActBlue goes through to the candidate’s campaign, although “tipping” ActBlue is allowed. There’s no way to tip Howie, except to contribute to candidates on his page, thus growing his power, and ours!
Each ActBlue candidate entry has a “website” tab to click onto the candidate’s website.
In response to #88, family farmers are struggling with higher fuel prices for the equipment they operate, but also with the added costs of shipping crop inputs to their farms and getting their goods to market. When I was growing up in Brooklyn (Iowa):) , I used to clean out rail boxcars that were used to ship grain to the Mississippi for delivery to the Gulf. Now, most grain in Iowa is shipped by semi trailer, so the high costs of fuel add to the costs of all commodities that are produced here in Iowa. Farmers in Iowa are also very concerned about the 2007 farm bill, and the impact it will have on their livelihoods. Most true family farmers in Iowa want to be good stewards of the environment, and want a Farm Bill that rewards practices that are environmentally sound, socially acceptable, and economically viable. (See Guest Editorial of William J. Richards in Nov. 2004 issue of Wallaces Farmer)
CHS @ 89
Yea Bruce, somebody, (wink) should really be pushing not only ethanol but biodiesel as well
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..-attitude/
Good for farmers. Good for the ecology
Mr. Braley, can you rank the concerns of voters in your district? Unprompted, what do they ask you about?
Howie @ 73 – I was just kidding about the “second best” thing. I’ve sat in with the Red Smear a couple of times when their regular drummer couldn’t make it. It’s an amazing band, and Matt’s a great guy and a great songwriter.
I talked to Mr. Loebsack recently, and his #1 concern is that 20% of Democrats support Rep. Leach because he’s perceived as moderate. Your article reinforces that perception somewhat. If you could do him a tiny favor and update this story with “fake moderate” which is more accurate, maybe the odds will improve somewhat.
To return to topic: Mr. Braley, you’re representing a number of river towns, which have been reduced to shells of their former selves with the death of the river as a major commercial avenue. For those not familiar with the area, Dubuque is starting to rally back, quietly, sharing the role of hub for towns connected by smaller routes with nearby Madison, WI. Dubuque is best known outside of Iowa for meat processing (think Dubuque hams, and also Hormel).
My question is, what, if anything, are you thinking of doing to bring back the river towns generally and Dubuque specifically? Do you feel that it’s recovering well enough as it is? Since IA-01 is right on the tri-state border of Iowa, Illinois and Wisconsin, you’ll have to work with the reps from those states.
Even with the ravages it’s suffered, Dubuque is still a beautiful town. It could be a jewel again with a little love. Most of the wedding-cake Victorians from the boom years are still standing. I’d love to see that city, and that region, make a comeback. Maybe if you’re lucky you can work with Dave Loebsack, who’ll have his own river towns to represent. :-)
Thanks for your time here!
Really, Cujo?
TeddySanFran @101 — I must not understand. I was thinking that the links imbedded in these threads would be the same if the thread were linked to the candidates’ websites. Therefore any contributions made through using those links would be through Blue America. No?
I completely agree with you about Howie (and FDL, etc) getting credit for the fundraising. This is how we concentrate our power and make our desires felt in the world of political fundraising.
This process of helping truly progressive candidates come fwd and gain steam is really exciting. Hopefully, it should help dampen 3rd party efforts that have weakened efforts to unseat the repubs in the past.
I would assume the 2 main problems confronting almost all these new progressive candidates are name recognition and raising money.
Hopefully on a related note, I’d like to pose a question for anyone & everyone here. Christy? Howie? Jane? maybe especially Pach?
Several years ago, I ran across a fascinating article about a study done on the actual decision process people from different backgrounds use to choose a candidate to vote for. I believe the study was conducted mainly, if not totally, in West Virginia, and looked especially for any correlations tw’ level of formal education and method of choosing among candidates.
I believe they did indeed find a correlation, with more formal education linked with more systematic examination of a candidate’s record, etc., and less formal education linked with reliance on a sort of “gut instinct” feeling about a candidate’s quality of character, honesty, etc.
Researchers also found BOTH systems equally “accurate” in determining the relative quality of candidates. HA! That old country wisdom!
I would dearly love to re-locate that study. Does anyone else remember it? I believe it was an academic study, published in a professional journal or “serious” periodical. Pach?
Main reason why I’d like to re-visit the whole issue is, it seems to me that Rove and his ilk have tapped into this phenomenon, bigtime, and they’re milking it for all it’s worth. And I for one don’t know how one fights against his tactics.
The swift-boating nastiness is a good example of how unscrupulous campaigners, enabled by lazy mainstream media, could turn those “gut” choice makers against a candidate. I think the problem has worsened in recent years also, because so many people are so busy trying to [”put food on their families” - to quote a notorious pol] they simply don’t take the time to pay attention to details the way they ought to, unless they make a serious effort to do so.
One extra, happy corollary to this long bit of muse-ery: I DO think that, at long last, the “gut” feel voters have !HAD ENOUGH! of the bushies & their mess. They’ve figured out enough about him/them to make up their minds, and they’ll never trust them again.
I just hope MY gut feeling is on target.
Still, please please raise a flag, someone, anyone, if you know of that study.
THANKS! gotta disappear for awhile now. it finally rained here, and I’m trying to find our pepper plants, sigh. ;->
Cujo @ 93. Thanks. Once again, I bow to your greatness ;-)
LindaR – thanks also; as with other posters, it appears that the cost of meds escalate sharply from one month to another, depending on time of year how far through the donut hole you still have to travel.
Closing comments: I want to thank everyone for their great questions and comments today. I wish I had more time to share with you, but it’s off to the Great Jones County Fair in Monticello, where I will continue to work hard to put a progrssive face in front of voters in Iowa’s First District … voters who are hungry for change and starving for leadership. I am inspired to keep working hard by your comments, suggestions and encouragement.
This election brings great opportunity, and with opportunity comes great responsibility. I got to hear James Carville speak recently, and he lashed out against complacency and overconfidence. The time to rest is on November 8th when we have a New Majority in the House and Senate and send the first warning shot of the 2008 campaign across the bow. I hope you will be there with me on November 7th to cheer me to the finish line.
Thanks again!
Bruce
oh – one more thing. Yes, I will check back & catch up with yall later. thanks again.
wonderful posts & discussions today…
Thanks for joining us, Bruce, and best of luck in your campaign.
Bruce—its a pleasure to have you join us today and to contribute to your campaign.
Howie—nice tweak to the CD delivery system.
BruceBraley@103, you write: “Most true family farmers in Iowa want to be good stewards of the environment, and want a Farm Bill that rewards practices that are environmentally sound, socially acceptable, and economically viable.”
I work in cancer research, and we’re closely allied with the agricultural health study (whose federal budget was slashed 80% a couple of years ago) for obvious reasons. Another real concern is health. The chemicals that farmers have to deal with, in the quantities they have to handle, are hair-raising and incredibly dangerous. Between the medications, fertilizers, pesticides, and fuels—not to mention the ever-present threat of physical injury—the health outlook for a modern commercial farmer is generally poor.
Dealing with this means taking on Big Agriculture, and the huge Swiss and American chemical companies, and it means accepting the changes to agricultural practice that reduced reliance on chemicals would entail (a transition the University of Northern Iowa will be invaluable in helping to make happen). Is this a battle you’re going to engage?
Thanks so much, and best of luck, Bruce!
Best of luck to you Bruce — thanks so much for stopping by to chat today! :)
Kind of OT but not, re GOTV:
Last night I had a horrific conversation at dinner. A friend’s parents are 90-plus years old and have voted all their lives. They are Republicans, but they do not like Bush and what he’s done to the country. My friend’s father was a navigator on a bomber in WWII. That’s relevant, because our progressive candidate Charlie Brown is a retired air force pilot, among his other good qualities.
The horrific part: These two people would likely vote for Charlie Brown in November if they had all the facts. But apparently, John Doolittle has already gotten to them and collected their votes through absentee ballots. Someone called them and hustled their votes.
My only hope is that this happened around the primary and that it is too early for the general. Anyway, my point in telling this is to ask if anyone knows about this practice? Am I completely naive to be surprised by this?
Because so many of the people here have asked me, next week: Eric Massa will be our guest and the week after that… Charlie Brown, the guy who’s gonna run Doolittle out of town.
Oh, pardon my bad manners: Bruce, thank you so much for taking time out of your day to talk with us!
I hope you win, I hope you win!
angie @ 12:34 pm (#107) – Back in the early part of the twentieth century, windmills were common in the midwest. That’s because the electrical grid often didn’t run all the way out there to the farms and farmers liked electric light and refrigeration as much as anyone else did. Once the rural regions got onto the grid, there was much less incentive to maintain windmills.
Howie, you are fabulous to do all this work with Blue America. Do you have a “tip jar” anywhere on the net? I know you never ask, but that doesn’t mean we can’t at least buy you a beer!
absentees now are just about the primary. yes, clever campaigns work the hell outta absentees! work with those folk about getting absentee ballots of the fall and make sure to help them fill them out right!
Cujo, in Indiana farm-windmills were used to pump water for the livestock
LindaR, thank you for asking but I’m doing OK and my gratification is only about electing progressives to Congress. You are so generous and consistent that you– and so many others here– are a complete inspiration for me. Last time I looked Bruce was nearly at $1,000 on our page.
LindaR: Here’s some absentee information for California. It seems to me that the absentee ballots can’t be out there more than 29 days before the election, so I think your friend’s parents absentee voted in the primary in June.
http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections…..tm#process
Oh, I see what you mean Cujo. I heard some great stuff on Science friday wrt to wind turbines out west and the biggest problem they have is who is gonna pay for the transmission lines, the private sector or the guvmint. The farmer from Kansas ( i think) said that they make way more power than they can use. Well, until we get a new guvmint, it prolly won’t get done. ;(
ilson and TeddySanFran — Thanks!
Bruce — what issue in Iowa is keeping the good people of Iowa voting Republican? Religous issues? Tax issues?
Also re health care, besides the donut hole problem, dugs have gone up enormously with the prohibition of competition from Canada and the no-bid buying of drugs by the Gov’t. Drugs should be cheap in the first place. I know someone who has epilepsy and was just fired. He has no health insurance whatsoever and his drugs doubled. Cost of drugs is a big issues. Pharma is in the driver’s seat.
And lastly Bruce, are the people in your district talking at all about the tragedy happening in the ME and specifically in Lebanon?
thanks for coming to chat. My mother’s family settled from Denmark to Thornton. Love Iowa, except when my guy gets smothered in the caucuses. ;-)
Also, sorry to jump you, LindaR!
I think I mis-read your comment. I thought you were suggesting that folks donate directly on the candidate’s website, which is of course completely cool, but I wanted to say that going to the candidate’s own website directly does cut out ActBlue and BlueAmerica. All money to progressives is great, I just like seeing BlueAmerica in the aggregate, imagining that Rahm must check it out too!
http://www.actblue.com/page/blueamerica
GrandmaJ– waving to a fellow danish rootzer!
Now, this is kind of a trip — Bruce Braley’s purple and gold website after clicking the Bosnian button!
http://www.brucebraley.com/bosnian/
Linda
I think Teddy’s right on the money. I’m thinking they mail out the absentee ballots at the same time they mail the voter guides
Oops I missed him. Oh well.
sharkbabe – sorry for harshin’ on you
Welcome, Bruce, and thanks for coming here.
I have long been an advocate of universal health care.
Which sort of program looks most workable to you?
Here is one:
http://www.nursingworld.org/pr…..pr0113.htm
I’ve read of several others over the years. We must get this done. Lack of health care is far more dangerous than a terrorist’s bomb, in my opinion.
new thread !
TeddySanFran (#130), the candidates that we get behind have been really grateful for our support. In many cases we are their biggest Act Blue contributor. I think in Coleen Rowley’s case, we’re her #1 contributor, period. Our contributions account for about 4/5 of the Act Blue money collected by Bruce and about 20% of the Act Blue money collected by Ned. This is clearly a COMMUNITY EFFORT in every way. I’m proud to be part of it.
*ilson46201 @ 12:54 pm (#124) – I’ve read that windmills were used for either, depending what was needed. Hooking up a DC generator and batteries to a windmill is a fairly straightforward operation (the only hazard I can think of being overvoltage created by high wind), and light bulbs run as well on DC as AC.
In addition, whether the energy transfer was done through mechanical or electrical means, the energy needed to pump that water used to come from the wind, and now it comes from the electrical grid.
TeddySanFran @ 129 — I didn’t feel jumped (sigh). And I think your point about “Howie’s power” is important.
GrandmaJ @ 129 – Since Bruce is off to do that quintessential Iowa thing, I suppose we’ll just have to put our heads together. :-)
You write: “Bruce — what issue in Iowa is keeping the good people of Iowa voting Republican? Religous issues? Tax issues?”
I think there are religious issues, cultural issues more broadly, but it’s not what we think of as the Religious Right. There is still a large population of descendants of the old Abolitionists, who were of course die-hard Republicans. The problem is that many of them have followed Republicanism instead of the religious tradition that spurred Abolition. The Right has been very careful in steering them away, linking abortion to Abolition and co-opting Christian terminology, and perverting the Scopes decision to the service of Intelligent Design (that’s not what it was about). It’s hardly an overstatement to say that Republicanism is a cultural identity for a lot of Western Iowans in particular. (This may also be part of what’s the matter with Kansas, and also Idaho.) It won’t be shed much more easily than any other cultural totem is; which is not to say that it’s impossible, only difficult. Fortunately, the Republicans have done about 99% of the necessary work for us. The remainder consists of getting this information to these folk through avenues that they trust.
For the rest, I think any talk of regulation and taxation will get the backs of rural folk up fast, and I think liberals do bear some blame for that—not because of the regulation per se, because of the way we’ve handled the cultural issues. Some kid freshly educated in Communist Iowa City gets his Iowa DNR job and comes out to Oakland (Iowa) and tells people whose families have farmed the same land since 1850 that they can’t do this and they can’t do that and they’re going about this all wrong. If there’s any attempt to connect with the people being regulated or taxed, it’s an initiative on the part of the individual. Farmers, who have too much to worry about in the best case, resent this. I think this is why someone like Jon Tester is doing so well: There’s a real sense among the people who ordinarily don’t trust liberals that he’s actually done the time behind a plow, so to speak, and so he’s not just imposing some burden on them that he dreamed up in an ivory tower. He’s one of them, and he can actually walk his own talk on a farm.
But then, I’m a computer programmer who grew up in Massachusetts, so caveat lector.
As someone who lives in the Leach district in Iowa, I have to say that unfortunately he is pretty well entrenched. Of course I’ll vote against him again, as I have since 1998 when I moved into the district, but the chances of unseating him are not good.
Although Chet Culver, the dem candidate for governor has been leading in polls, I wouldn’t count out Nussle. He’s a smooth operator with lots of support from the outside the state. I do think Iowa will lean more democratic this time around but it is always a closely divided state.
The opportunity to pick a seat by Mr. Braley is great but we are also in danger of losing a seat in Iowa. Leonard Boswell is far from being what I would call a progressive, but he is a dem who is in a very close race this time around. Anyone who can afford send a little assistance his direction should consider it.
Adie:
I’ve been out today and just read your comment. Sorry: I’m stumped on that one. I’m not familiar with it, and sadly don’t recall it. I may never have seen it.
Actually, I was pretty politically unengaged until a few years ago.
I’m late to the discussion…. I’m also in District 2 (Leach). I live very close to Rockwell Collins and work for that ultra liberal university hospital (or at least liberal for this state).
Another reason why so many still vote Republican around here is because the current Republican Party is partly derived from the Granger Movement of the mid 1800’s. Local legend has it that the Grangers started in Crawfordsville, Iowa.
Iowa is disproportionally rural and ‘elderly’.
The vast majority of city dwelling Iowans are no more than one or two generations off the farm. While I may be the 2nd generation off the farm, one of my 1st cousins is planning on a farming career at this time. (She’s 16 and already has a small herd of sheep.)
I really appreciate this series. It is encouraging and informative to learn about competitive and wonderful Democrats around the country.
If you haven’t done so already, could you please add Angie Paccione
http://www.angie2006.com/
to the list of Congressional candidates that you cover? She is fabulous (dynamic, liberal, intelligent, informed, etc.) and she is running for the Colorado District 4 seat that homosexual-hating, pro-CAFTA (anti-farmer), pro-War, Dubya puppet Marilynn Musgrave currently occupies.
From what I have heard and read recently, Paccione and Musgrave are equal in the polls, but Paccione needs more publicity and more financial support.
Thanks!
Dear Pach at 143.
I’m honored you’d take the time to answer.
Seriously, I mean it. I come & go from lurking & finally posting – sometimes too much.
I was fascinated by that article, so maybe I saved some ref. I’ll check back & see, & let the crew know if I find it.
We have good friends who never cross paths with eachother and yet who, nevertheless, represent very well the categories of choice-methods measured in that study.
The ‘gut-feeling’ friends now are totally savvy & totally disgusted by rover’s MO. But they have many relatives and acquaintances who trouble them greatly by continuing to be suckered by same. How to reach the others, without only generating strife within their family, & nothing positive??? I’m not that one who can do it. But I could try to serve as an enabler, if I could just figure out how.
Delicate situation and, I suspect, with widespread significance.
Jr’s reliance on being the macho-honcho just got blown out the window during this past year, tw’ Katrina & the latest G8 fiasco, not to mention the carnage in the ME & beyond.
Think basic wonderful blue-collar values: lotta pride involved, toes to be re-oriented w/o being unnecessarily stepped-on? This is a HUGE disappointment for a lotta folk who followed Jr. lock-step, without knowing they should have a 2nd thot about whether he was qualified.
Someone like rover pushed all the right buttons to make this happen. If you want all their hearts & minds, and votes, it’s gonna take some careful work in the middle, so to speak, to ALLOW these people to cross over, and not just stay home on election day.
Thanks again. Will stay tuned as much as I can &, will keep checking in daily at the very least, if only to lurk. ;->
re my 109 & 146, & Pach’s 143
SHOOT! Just spent all evening trying to find some record of that article, Pach. Not on any disks I’ve got, & couldn’t spot it via google. Slim chance it’s so old I’ve got a printed copy from back when I wasn’t as well wired as now.
I KNOW it existed, it made sense at the time, and I’ve seen the phenomenon in action.
My lousy book-keeping shouldn’t keep us from taking this into account, right?
I know the concept is dead-on correct, because I see it all around me even in better-educated, but – shall we be kind and call them “distracted” folks of all sorts, these days?!
Regardless, I’m convinced the problem is real. As long as minds such as rove’s are at work out there, candidates have to be ready to tackle smears effectively because, alas, they work much of the time, & voters have to be diligent about doing their homework(!)
Thanks, everyone. This blog itself is a HUGE weapon against the sleaze merchants out there!
Night for now . . . I rest easier knowing you all are out there ;->
This is my home and my distract, and our next congressman, Bruce would be a great congressman and somebody finally who would represent us the people of northeast Iowa. Nussle is a tool, and one of Newt Gingriches henchmen. I could never understand who he was representing. As I watch the building boom on the outskirts of Waterloo and Cedar Falls (adjoining cities – 125k population – fyi)The house going up are
sorry – accidently posted it too soon. The houses going up are 400-600 thousand dollar monsters. Homes that if they were anywhere else would cost 800kto 1.2mill and wonder were that kind of prosperity is coming from. People I know are not building new homes, there just trying to hang on to what they have. Even here where the cost of living is low and I believe we are 5th on the list of communities that have the most affordable housing, there is not a whole lot of opptimism about the economy for the middle class here. As to Iraq, My wife has 1 family member still over there and 2 that have served more than one tour and are home now. Nobody wants our people over there and are generally pisssed about the reasons for sending them over there, and the yare going to be really pissed when more of them figure out that clueless george is not just a childrens book but the despotic leader of the once great and hopefully future grea UNITED STATES.