TRex: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We have a matter of grave importance to discuss tonight. Very respected and highly ethical Right-Wing Blogger Patterico has discovered that the gentlemen (and I use the term lightly) who run
Sadly, No! have been making a fortune off of some t-shirts that advocate violence against Conservatives. We take all allegations of violence and incitement very seriously here in our particular outpost of the Liberal Blogosphere. We
know that right wingers would never do that Verily do I love thee
Sadly, No! You read the wingnuts so we don’t have to. But this time you’ve gone too far! I think you need to account for yourselves and come clean as quickly as possible so that business in the blogosphere as we know it may continue.
So, let’s begin.
Now, who exactly is Patterico and what the heck has got him so upset?
Gav: By day, Patterico is an assistant prosecutor in Los Angeles County, while by night he dons a hood and cape and fights the many-tentacled octopus of the Liberal Conspiracy on his blog. The two roles interlap, if I can invent that word, in that he seems to think of liberals as perps who are always lying and trying to get away with stuff — and his discursive style is to make a hailstorm of silly accusations, demanding that people ‘explain’ and ‘prove’ things which he then pretends to misunderstand in twisty ways. This dovetails wonderfully with our style, which is to make fun of people like that until they jump up and down breaking their golf clubs over their knee. We suspect Patterico secretly appreciates us, as we do him.
Brad: Patterico devotes a stunning amount of time to "bwaah-haa-haa"-ing (i.e., digging up supposed dirt on his ideological foes and going "BWAAH-HAA-HAA!!1!") with his pals Jeff Goldstein and Ace of Spades. He’s upset because…well, I’m not sure what drives him. I think "bwaah-haa-haa"-ing must be the Internets equivalent of crack, because the guy can’t get enough of it. Goldstein, Ace, and Patterico do so much of this stuff that we’ve dubbed them the "Super Bwaah-haa-haario Brothers."
Trex: That’s very nice, boys, but can you explain to the class what this has to do with these rather rude t-shirts you made those huge piles of money off of?
Gav: Oh, that’s a good question, yes. This whole affair started when we jumped into the Deb Frisch, um, contretemps, in which Jeff Goldstein ran around crying that a liberal had threatened his kid in comments to his site. It was actually a tangly and unsavory thing, if not anything like a credible threat to anyone, but Goldstein routinely makes the same kind of remarks, while a lot of right-wing bloggers think it’s hilarious to joke about killing liberals, immigrants, dusky-hued foreign civilians, and government officials (and I’m sure I’m leaving out a category or two there) but…oh yeah, fags. But a lot of them are all about that sort of thing. And we waded into it with eyes not entirely open.
Brad Adds: (I cannot read Goldstein. It’s like watching a plane full of nuns crash into a kitten farm.)
Gav: Apropos the shirt, there was never any such shirt for sale. We did a prototype design of a parody of a right-wing shirt for our store (which isn’t open yet), and I used it as a mockup because it was the only shirt design that was finished. We’d voted not to use it because it was too nasty, and because the right-wing howling about the NY Times had rendered it a lot less funny than it might previously had been.
So, enter Inspector Pattycakes, the Man From U.R.K.E.L. He found our store, which apparently some people could get to from the main page. Brad and I couldn’t, so we thought it was private — it might’ve been a browser issue; we’re still not sure. But Patterico was on the case, and the discussion immediately shifted away from the volcano of eliminationist hate propaganda from the right, and onto our dumb little parody design that we weren’t intending to to sell. It was a stunning maneuver: No matter how many times you see it, it’s still wonderful how something as bloated and treacly as the right wing can zip into action when there’s blame to be shifted.
TRex: I sense that you two are out there smirking about this. You can just wipe that look right off your faces. These are very serious allegations. All of Left Blogistan may be called upon to renounce you. You’ll be kicked off the Townhouse mail list and Kos won’t give you a pony.
Brad: LOL. That’s cool with me. I’ll just pull a David Horowitz on your asses and become the Right’s darling apostate. Plus, once you get on that Heritage/AEI welfare system, you’re set for life. My first Townhall column would be about how left-wing bloggers are all intolerant people who made me cry by calling me a "wanker."
Gav: I want a pony.
TRex: How exactly does this relate to Glenn Greenwald, though? And what, precisley did these shirts of yours say? Gavin, please pay attention.
Gav: See, now you’re thinking like a right-wing blogger: "How does everything relate to Glenn Greenwald?" But essentially, after we posted an essay including a bunch of authentic right-wing hate propaganda, in reference to the Goldstein/Frisch affair, Glenn started jumping up and down on those guys with giant boots in a way that, unlike with us, serious people would have to notice and take account of. The response from the WingNet was immediate, hysterical, and quite characteristic: They set about trying to smear Glenn and pin petty charges on him. We were like a PT boat weaving in and out of all that, and we drew a lot of fire. As for the shirt, here’s a link to our last — and hopefully final —
post on the subject.
TRex: Well, that’s very brave of you, Gavin, I’m sure, but we all know about you liberals and your phony war records. What exactly is a "sock puppet" and how is it germane to this discussion, gentlemen?
Brad: The point of "sock puppeting" is to make it look as though multiple people are agreeing with your point, when in reality it’s just you. One such case of sock puppeting was the j
ohn lott-mary rosh debacle.
Patty & pals found that someone had been defending Greenwald on various blogs using Greenwald’s IP address. I personally don’t know what the deal is, but Greenwald doesn’t strike me as the sort of guy who needs to use sock puppets to defend himself — he’s not the kind of guy who backs away from a fight
TRex: But doesn’t Patterico have a sock puppet of his own?
Brad: I can’t comment on that. For all I know, that’s just speculation at this point. You’d have to ask someone else.
TRex: Gavin will go out on a limb, I bet.
Brad: But yeah, I don’t really know whether Pattycakes has a sock puppet or not. We have suspicions, but to my knowledge, nothing is nailed down. (So put me down as, "I can’t comment on that because i don’t have enough information" just so we’re clear.)
TRex: You’d do it if you loved me.
Brad: We’ve only just met!
Gav: Um, when I bite into a peppermint patty, I get the sensation of a cool mountain breeze blowing over an icy-clear stream. That said, we’re the kind of chaps who stay up nights in torment if we’re wrong about something. And in any case, we’ve already flung a couple of banana peels under Patterico’s hooves, so it’s not as though we have any outstanding grudges with him, right at the moment.
Gav: We’re really following the posts like
this one. Misha at the Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler is a psychopath who gets to do his Silence of the Lambs penis dance every day, until now without a word from the mainstream press (who’ve somehow managed to publish numerous pieces about ‘angry’ or ‘disreputable’ left-bloggers). Inter alia, we hear that Misha is a nice guy in real life. But so are a lot of people who leave the world worse than when they found it. As for the shirt, here’s a link to our last — and hopefully final —
post on the subject.
TRex: Indeed. And that, I think is why the right-wingers are so determined to shout Greenwald down. He’s pointing out over and over that contrary to the MSM stereotype of left wing rabid lambs like ourselves, the right wing blogs have always been bloodthirsty, over the top, and truly the unhinged step-children of right-wing hate radio.
And that’s all we have time for tonight, kids! Thank you Gavin and Brad and all you loyal Firedogs for your patience!
Good night!
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Fitz!
If the Zero Fitz, wear it.
Fitz!
(Late nite!)
better Nate than lever!
I hate that “Rope. Tree.” talk that the Republicans pull.
I wrote a post about Howard Kurtz tonight about that sort of thing.
TRex !
rootz!
kobe!
I am so glad you two finally decided to come clean about all of this. How much rubber hose did it take TRex?
‘Don’t you wish your girlfriend was…not like me…?’
;>)
How much rubber hose did it take TRex?
All it took was Atlas Vlogs. So, the only rubber involved was in Pam’s bra.
TRex, I have a problem with your posts.
They’re late at night and I scare my dog laughing. ;-)
Wait… Patterico is a lawyer? Like, and employed as a lawyer?
Hell, Patterico is… employed?
I bet he has a whole drawerful of imaginary indictments of Glenn Greenwald hidden in some desk somewhere. Wingnut porn, essentially.
Ego patter
TRex, Matt O good stuff.
Darkblack, as always, spot on.
The wingers can still only point ot dopey Alec Baldwin calling for the “stoning” of Henry Hyde and the impeachers and the Stephanie Miller parody—a parody no less– of Bush and gunfire.
Find one lefty, Dem or Liberal that has called on the genocide of peoples, poisoning of SC justices, bombings of journalists, sniper shots at Presidents, sexual humiliation and assaults of “Arabs” like Anthrax Annie Coulter and I will personally shit in my hat.
-GSD
Punaise 4 – Better Nate than lever – Ha! Is that from the joke about the caveman and the birthday cake?
Wait… Patterico is a lawyer? Like, and employed as a lawyer?
Amazing. Righty lawbloggers are usually so credible and thoughtful.
I dunno, I kinda think the right is imploding on a huge scale. They keep screaming and frankly, 3/4 of the country and 4/5 of the world know they’re nuts.
Goper’s Lament
Do ya think Tucker Carlson might hook up with Pam Shrugged over there in the war zone?
And how about than fighter plane porn Pam links to on her front page? I spilled my Cheeto bag when I clicked over to those stills. Like a military-industrial Hustler magazine on the tooobz.
And how about than fighter plane porn Pam links to on her front page? I spilled my Cheeto bag when I clicked over to those stills. Like a military-industrial Hustler magazine on the tooobz.
Somehow I don’t find the idea of her being a total war fetishist all that surprising…
Time to turn in – I have a long morning of sleep ahead of me.
No, no, Eli, don’t leave yet, the others can’t find there way here and are all EPU’d! I’ve got two windows open and I can see all the rabid lambs cooing for the TRex post they can’t get to!
Please stay for a minute….
TRex, Gavin and Brad, thanks for this. (still laughing about that plane full of nu.. ahem.)
I went through Glenn’s comments thread this morning, the one with all the sockpuppetry and IP stuff. Really, really weird goings on out.
How strange. I think the post was deleted, but the Javascript (or whatever) on the orphaned page loaded in our browsers is still refreshing the comments. But I’m sure if we tried to refresh from the browser, it would timeout or error out.
Matt O – What a wonderful post @GS.
Whew. I’m back. Wonder what all that was about.
aww stuck pups in last thread. bummer
neurophius, Did cut and paste (link) help?
Heh.
Uh, sorry.
*hastily plugs power cord back into wall*
Tripped.
Okay, really sleeping now…
Did Jane post thoughts yet on “state secrets” getting a smack in the face yesterday? There’s a lot going on…
Eureka, your link worked the second time I tried it. I told the others back there, hope they try it and get here.
Mommybrain
Punaise 4 – Better Nate than lever – Ha! Is that from the joke about the caveman and the birthday cake?
ummmm, if it is I didn’t know about it. do tell!
my comment was just a random inversion…what’s it called?
buncha people are stranded at the previous post.
“TRex Unplugged” on VB1
Trek, son. Plugged?
Punaise 4 – Better Nate than lever – Ha! Is that from the joke about the caveman and the birthday cake?
I thought it was a joke about a snake, an elephant, and the lever the ends the world. I am not making this up.
melior – Mary has posted in several midday threads. Worth the search.
Patterico is Pathetico
FDL’ers get out of those tubes!
-Senator Ted Stevens(R)-Incompetent
lever alone
I was doing corrections on a couple of typos and I accidentally knocked the post back into draft mode. I had a sudden sense of thousands of voices screaming at once, then being suddenly silenced.
It was a strange disturbance in the Force.
Lever?
You brought her!
Patterico is what mean kids called me in grade school.
TRex,
You are our only hope.
-GSD
Oh, I get it now, Sadly No! is a humorous lefty blog. And all this time I thought it was a serious reactionary blog. I was just studying the Mideast Crisis Explained post last night. Thought it would help me understand all the war hoops going on.
The two minute townhall is hilarious. This is my favorite:
Shorter Charles Krauthammer: Does Israel have the stones to learn from our mistakes in Iraq by repeating them?
Thanks Eureka!
Seven year old’s birthday card 3wjoke – A caveman needs to deliver a birthday cake to his friend in another cave. The cake is so huge he can’t lift it. Hmmm, how to get the cake to his friend? Light bulb moment, he drags a huge tree over to the cake and tries to pry it up. The cake tips over and goes splat.
Enter caveman’s friend, Nate. Nate is an enormous Neanderthal. He picks up the cake and delivers it to the happy birthday boy.
Moral: you know.
TRex is trippin’
‘Murica: Lever or leave ‘er
You are our only hope.
If they strike me down, I will only become more powerful than they can imagine.
thanks Mommybrain. it reassures me that I am not alone with this affliction.
truth is stranger than affliction
truthiness is a strain of fiction
TRex – three strikes and you’re “out”.
I thought TRex outed himself a long time ago.
neuro in da groove
TRex. computer. chord.
some re-assembly required.
the silence of the rabid lambs screaming?
Really good explanation of the antecedents of the current situation in Lebanon in MSNBC of all places.
Essentially the Hez are homegrown and created by previous Israeli invasions.
back by lack of popular demand:
wes kos livid rams of the blogos-fear
punaise
I think the truthiness one may be a keeper (he said modestly)
poetry dude – if you gave us a bit of context I might actually check out your link. as it is, not so likely.
poetry man never seems to have any interest in what we are discussing, he just hits and runs.
neuro – modesty is over-rated anyway
Hey, Le Jackal…What’s with all the rough talk on Canadians in the last thread?
You got a problem with snowbacks?
GSD –
You just took my campaign slogan for when I run for president.
“Our Only Hope.”
=)
Matt O. in 2024?
Matt O
As I recall from a previous discussion, you are going to have plenty of time to think of a new one.
Night dogies.
May visions of sugared bums dance in your threads.
-GSD
later, GSD
re darkblack @ 64
Thought I was being ironic. Looking for a ray of light in a black night.
sugared bum = candy ass?
Matt O.
For a small fee it can be yours.
-GSD
It’s getting to be about that time for me, too.
Le Jackal @ 70:
Pas de probleme
slogan focus group testing on the cutting room floor:
Matt Matters
he’ll go to the Matt for you
Ought O. Mattic
has Matt?
Walt sing Matt Hilda
darkblack – are you Quebec-wahhhhhh? :~)
Reefer Mattness
but of course:
Ought O. Mattic for the People
neuro 77 – that’ll hemper his chances of winning
He’s presidential Matterial.
I think Matt Matters has a nice ring to it
Going to the Matt.
Now one from the sister of Wellen. A snippett from Maureen Dowd:
“Condi was as cool as ever in the State Department briefing room yesterday, perfectly groomed in a camel-colored suit with an athletic white stripe. Like her boss, she does not show any sign of tension over the fact that all of their schemes to democratize the Middle East ended up creating more fundamentalism, extremism, terrorism and anti-Americanism.”
Heckuva job Neo-Condi.
-GSD
I hope he appeals to the ladies’ Matternal instincts.
Go with Matt O
punaise @ 76:
No. However, within my geneology runs an Acadian line.
Two times a day, once on Sunday
;>)
I hope he appeals to the ladies’ Matternal instincts.
take off the penultimate word and remove the prior possessive, and it’s already a done deal from what I hear.
Wow, remember when Secretaries of State were, like, the smartest person available about everything overseas? Now, not so much. She looks like she wishes she’d taken that Football Commish gig.
Hey, is that job still open? Maybe she could take it on August Ninth, when RGJoe comes a’knocking at 1600 for a job.
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Matt Enough?
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darkblack 85 – ever listen to Daniel Lanois? cool Acadian tunes
Place Matt on your ballot list.
Eureka LOL
Happy Birthday to Maura!
Matt trick you late
Okay, kids, it’s starting to storm here. I need to go off line and prolly to bed.
Good night. Y’all be good.
the Maura love the story
TRex, we hardly knew ya….
slouching towards *plouf*itude
Not the French!
Ought O. Mattic for the People
I like that one, and not just because I love R.E.M. either!
Don’t give me that look, punaise. The lightning could fry my DSL modem.
Wow you guys are coming up with some good slogans. Who needs strategists?
Vote for a Matt Finish
Ought O. Mattic For The People is a winner.)
Don’t fry TRex
Matt O From the Get-Go
Nite, all.
As you start to drift off into sleep, do NOT have visions of the Kiss Float.
Night neuro.
it’s a choice for Matt
*plouf*
Dropped 35 degrees here this evening. Feels like a new planet.
Back on topic for me:
I like these ‘controversial’ designs, even though they are merely (from the progressive viewpoint) rebuttals to the sort of zany ‘In a parallel world where the Nazis won WW2, that’d be teh bomb’ hepwear that is sported by portly, balding gentlemen with gun fetishes and vast bondage libraries.
I could crank ‘em out all day long with an insouciant smile, but I’d rather tattoo those same sentiments in big letters with black ink on those balding heads prior to their indentured service as Pan-African public toilet attendants…In my parallel world.
;>)
punaise @ 88:
Lanois, great engineer/producer, good performer too…He definitely caught the connection between Acadian and Cajun.
good evening all –
It seems to me that the wingnuts getting riled up over SN is as pitiable as the wingnuts who pass around links to Onion articles thinking they are *real* news items.
and, in a shout out to the last thread, whose early stages went by without me –
connecticutlery
In a parallel world
What is this “parallel world” you refer to?
Is that any different than passing around WaPo or NYTimes articles?
EPU @ 110:
In an equidistant galaxy far, far away…So obscure as to be caliginous.
;>)
OK, just so I dont’ have to send a cease & desist letter.
EPU @ 111:
That’s unsanitary…You should wear gloves
;>)
darkblack @ 74
Perhaps some context:
The point I was trying to make, too elliptically, is that the vile Bushco mini-me Conservative government we currently have in place is royally screwing up the evacuation of a small Canadian city from Lebanon. On one hand this could be their Katrina, on the other hand we are profoundly angered over the Harper governments failure to adequately assist 30,000 or more of our fellow citizens.
The one good thing about their buffoonery is that with 1,000’s of Canadians having been left behind in the direst of circumstances Israel must pause to consider their possible slaughter of so many citizens of what has been a staunch ally. In the interim, perhaps cooler heads will prevail and some sort of ceasefire will be worked out.
Meanwhile, if political points can be scored against a government that is anti-gay (they want to rollback our legally mandated right to gay marriage), anti-environment (they want to pull out of the Kyoto Agreement), anti-minority (they want to abrogate treaty obligations to native peoples of Canada) and unabashedly pro-Bush, well all the better.
A treat for you all, even if youtube had what I was originally looking for.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MQG…..search=sid vicious my way
Sorry to come to the party so late, what with the heat here in L.A., we were in tho pool until a few minutes ago.
FWIW, I also had a little fun with Patterico here.
punaise:
I’ve worked with Lanois a couple of times, really nice man.
EPU
Makes me laugh. Just saw “The Filth And The Fury”.
Canada is not happy right about now.
Oh, and they are called “frostbacks.”
For me, patience in this Mideast situation is a virtue…The ‘impact and wave’ from the initial strike affected all countries concerned equally in proportion…There is no smooth bugout plan to play here, IMO.
But ‘Canadians on the field’…If that’s not a motivating factor for Israel to roll back its program…Nothing is.
Not that we’re ‘…Special, just cuz‘ or anything…I just don’t recall being asked to allow our citizens to be killed.
Harper?…Big Oil has its hooks deep, and he has Bonanza-grade yahoos even deeper in his party. But I don’t think he can cut too many deals without burning his faithful somewhere, therefore he’s got to play nice…And, unlike Bush, if SH fucks up we can get rid of his ass in an election real quick.
Play the old Anti-American card, eh?
;>)
Passing the torch to our East Coast Pupster in the morning Ms lotus.
It was mild Friday, so I cleaned up around the place. Some fresh fruit in the fridge, warm danish in the oven. We need to order some more keyboard covers sometime next week. Hope to catch you late in ‘Pull Up A Chair” with a favorite apple cake recipe of mine.)
Stephen at 120:
Canada…Oh, and they are called “frostbacks.”
Then what the heck are them Hosers? *g*
Hosers are firemen, at least that is what we called them around the PD.
darkblack @ 1:00 am (#121) – I was just reading in the Jerusalem Post this afternoon that some Canadian billionaire is providing Israelis who are stuck in their bomb shelters air conditioners. Maybe you guys could work out an exchange.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S…..e/ShowFull
…sitting here eating a cold watermellon on the front porch of a house so hot you can’t sleep in it…is this global warming? we had a red alert in our town tonight telling us the temp would probably go up to as much as 110* today (saturday) and to stay out of the sun and be sure to check on old, frail people…
the crisis in ME…reading all the ‘big’ astrologers in the past few days and they are all predicting the direst of outcomes based on the information gleanned from the Israel and Lebenon charts….
To my mind the saddest and most tragic aspect of the current conflict is that Lebanon was so very close to success. It takes some imagination, but consider what would have happened if the Cedar Revolution would have been allowed to flourish. At some point, years from now of course, Lebanon would have been considered for EU membership and even NATO membership.
It would have happened. Lebanon is inherently a pluralistic, increasingly democratic state with deep ties to the peoples of the West through its many migrs. It is also very beautiful and appealing. Those who have travelled through Europe and the eastern Mediterranean know EU membership is a fundamental and essential distinction. It is very important.
I know that if that was the deal with the people of Lebanon were presented with on a twenty year timeframe they would meet it in ten years. What is the alternative? Obviously: an Israeli invasion and scourging of all of Lebanon every generation for eternity. Clearly, Israel must recognize the profound benefit to itself of having a stable neighbour in the EU with a military integrated with NATO.
But I’m just a dreamer.
It got very hot out here today, as well. I’m trying to get the house to cool down enough so it will be livable tomorrow. In the Pacific NW we don’t normally need air conditioning. Last year I think it was only above ninety degress F for two or three days. We’ve had our first day today, and we’re supposed to have another tomorrow.
Astrologers sure are funny – you don’t need any special gift to understand that this could turn out badly. Tell me something I wouldn’t have known just by reading the papers. Let me consult my tarot here. Hmmm. All signs point to Condi getting a new pair of Italian shoes.
Le Jackal @ 1:53 am (#127) – I was thinking that Lebanon would be the next functioning democracy in the ME after Israel. Too bad they have Israel and Syria for neighbors.
Hosers?…That’s how you get the frost off.
;>)
…
Cujo359 @ 125:
It’s cool to be cool…People helping people.
And now, goodnight, nice dogs…
But before I go, a toast to those upright walkers, the authors of this thread, and the issue of an image not at all like this scurrilous one…
‘It’s nothing without pictures’
;>)
And now from those folks who brought you democracy in Iraq…
http://fairuse.100webcustomers…..2_06_8.htm
US rushes special bomb “order” to Israel
Yes. There’s also some info in that article about State’s vanity diplomacy effort. In both the arms supply and the summits, the main consideration seems to be how the U.S. looks or is “positioned.” Very disturbing.
Speaking of disturbing, I had just come to the unwelcome conclusion that some world leaders were trying desperately to get the word out on something this past week when I stumbled over this link at BuzzFlash. It’s one thing to say it as invective, but another in the cold light of day: the President is bonkers.
re: like this scurrilous one…
ooo! darkblack!
good thing he’s already dead!
Early AM thread: T-Rex: UnPlugged (ala MTV)
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Romney’s earning Winger cred:
http://www.boston.com/news/loc…..wage_bill/
Item: I know of no housing units, like say 1BR/Studio that are less than $400/mo.
Take your minimum wage and live in your car (if ya have one, and insure it and tankup.)
That BuzzflashFalls Church article nails it.
Minimum wage is for losers, eh Mittney?
Courant cover Ned and the new poll. Short shrift to his appearance at health clinic for position on ‘universal health’….
http://www.courant.com/news/po…..tics-state
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This comes about 10th graph in, all info prior is about the polls, Joe’s strategy and gen campaign info roundup…
…”News of the poll followed Lamont throughout a day of campaigning, which he had hoped would spotlight his proposal for universal health care.
At a press conference outside a medical building in New Britain, where patients squeezed by reporters, Lamont said he favored forcing employers to provide insurance, while allowing them to cut costs by buying into larger insurance pools.
But the first questions posed addressed his new standing in the polls.
“Ah, back to issues,” he said.”….
oooohhhh…
Hi Old Sow. Mainieac (sp?), iirc? How’s things in Vacationland?
last commment for the want of a mod, a post was ‘lost’..
just go to the Courant. Article about Ned covers the poll but gives scant attention to his ‘message’ – appearance at a health clinic advocating universal coverage.
…back to surfing.
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oh. Good MA AM firepups out there. No word on the zennurse, yet, eh? I’m hoping there’s nothing worse than a computer glitch or something like that.
“That BuzzflashFalls Church article nails it.”
Boo-yah.
Juan Cole points to an action site on behalf of a new Kucinich resolution for immediate cease-fire, multi-party negotiations, and a peacekeeping force. Not that I expect anything whatsoever in the way of a response from our alleged government, but I find that I am beginning to feel complicit. I do not like it.
Great Catch prostrate dragon!
BK Maine is foggy, rainy, incredibly lovely as always. Huge amounts of new growth on trees etc indicate increase in CO2 or whatever, but it’s not OUR fault if there’s global warming, okay!
Prostrate–that’s refreshing to read. If we could only count on our government to represent we the people.
Off for a day of “fun” vending at a community fair. Have fun at the Lake.
*splash*
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/5203450.stm
Good morning, you venomous lambs, you.
As with yesterday, I’m delaying my usual paper-fetching ’cause, if you want the trufe, once again I’s skeered to go out there yet. Druther stay here awhile longer, drink me some tea, and wish Eureka, Dru and Maura
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
Bo-WEE, I’ll be glad to see zennurse surface, and lhp too.
“Rope. Tree. Republican. Do the Math.”
Easy. The right wingers are up a gum tree because it increasingly shows that their ideas only lead to disaster. Now they are looking for a rope to get their feet back on firm ground again. Comes as no surprise that they’re too gutless to jump.
:D
Hmm, “Major Wingnut” is either (a) one of us not quite firing on all snark cylinders at this hour or (b) fixin’ to say something that will surprise even him.
What’ll it be, *ilson?
Major Wingnut is an occasional friendly poster here
Ah, then welcome back, Major! Sorry, sir, I’m still a tad befogged . . .
Mornin’ all. Coffee startin’ to kick in after a trip to the store to get milk. Been out of town since Sunday and it seems I have missed a lot. Picked up a few tidbits here and there, chimpy saying ’shit’ in an open mic, WW3 getting worse, hundreds of thousands w/o power from severe storms.
I can’t honestly say I am glad to be back from vacation, but I am glad glad to be back to the nice community of FDLers.
Wonder if Old Sow’s Faire is in Scarborough?
(I’d explain it, but that kills the humor…)
Blank Kludge-
We get it.
Oh, yeah, morning, too. I feel like coffee didn’t start to defog my brain yet. Why all that noise about rope – tree – republican? Why should republicans be angry about this, you’re never too old for this kind of fun. I guess the problem lies with the assembly! But, hey, we know how to google, dont we?
http://www.ehow.com/how_17381_hang-tire-swing.html
Just make sure it doesn’t look like this after assembly:
http://www.businessballs.com/images/treemain.jpg
:D
What lotus said at 5:36.
Thanks for the history *ilson.
Okay, venturing out a wee, I find an interesting pairing in ToL:
Go here for the most fully-deciphered transcript yet of Chimpy and the Poodle’s tete a tete, and here for comments upon it solicited by ToL from seven with relevant expertise. (”East London rapper” Lethal Bizzle takes the cake AND the biscuit.)
“prostratedragon says:
July 22nd, 2006 at 4:40 am
“That BuzzflashFalls Church article nails it.”
Boo-yah.
Juan Cole points to an action site on behalf of a new Kucinich resolution for immediate cease-fire, multi-party negotiations, and a peacekeeping force. Not that I expect anything whatsoever in the way of a response from our alleged government, but I find that I am beginning to feel complicit. I do not like it.”
I used the site and it appears to work well, used my zipcode to send emails to my two nearest Congressional reps.
Pull Up A Chair, and not a minute too soon!
We are constantly being importuned to be “nice” to those who loathe and despise us in no uncertain terms.
This is a sucker’s game.
Try informing yourself before embarrassing yourself with a comment like you made on the current thread.
Israel is no innocent bystander in this and your solution won’t work any better in Lebanon than Bush’s has in Iraq/Afghanistan. Israel is in a 4G war. 3G tactics don’t work.
What am I gonna get the what happened in 1948 speech or the what happened in 1967 speech, I understand why Hezzbolah did what they did they want some friends let loose from an Jail, Well there are other ways to get that done, there was relative peace 3 weeks ago between Lebanon and Israel there were issues it was not great peace but not open war there were people going to work there were even tourists flying in and out, Hezbolah planned this and had an idea of what Israel would do. My humble opinon is this: we didn’t start it, Israel is a treaty ally and they haven’t asked for help, therefore it is not our business much the same way as Iraq was not our business unless it actually had been a threat.
“BWAAH-HAA-HAA!!1!”
which is a slight variation on CHS’ “Mwahahahahaha!”….both equally juvenile ;)
“we didn’t start it,”
You’re right, Israel didn’t start it.
The Allies did right after WWII with their very healthy guilt about they let Hitler do to a million Poles and 6 million Jews.
The Palistinians didn’t start it either.
If you don’t understand what a 3G war is and your 8:01 confirms that, I would strongly encourage you to learn.
If you don’t want to do that, learn about how George Washington won the Revolutionary War, how Robert E. Lee survived so long in the U.S. Civil War, how Ho Chi Minh defeated the U.S. in Vietnam. Israel and the U.S. ignores those lessons at our peril.
You folks are hilarious. Of course, I think Jerry Lewis is hilarious, so I wouldn’t get too much of a big head about it all….
What gives you or me the right to interfere with how Israel responds to an attack. And I understand that this will not end it, I understand guierral warfare but if your fighting a enemy that crosses your border and kidnaps your people what do you want to do make a deal with them, give them what they want this week so they can kidnap some school kids next week and ask for more. Guess what I can be Democrat and agree that Israel has a right to defend itself and as far as I know they haven’t started marching anyone toward ovens or just an out and out carpet bombing they told Hezbolah and Lebanon how to get a cease fire, give us back our people. Your 3G or 4G war crap is fine as long as its not your people and the fact that we may or may not get involved in a week to help negoiate a peace is neither here nor there Israel was attacked Israel decides how it wishes to respond, much the same as when we were attack we decided to make a mess of Afganistan even though the hijackers were from saudi arabia, it was our join as we were the ones who were attacked
“Your 3G or 4G war crap is fine as long as its not your people.”
Those were “my people” on 9/11. Those are “my people” dying in Iraq and Afghanistan.
So you think that Israel should play lets make a deal with the kidnappers ?? You think a proportional response would have served Israel how? You think that if Israel had said sure let me let some people out of jail for you that every arab group in the middle east wouldn’t be kidnapping their people? You haven’t answered the question what gives you or me the right to tell Israel how it should response when it is attacked. They are not currently participating in a genocide of the the Lebanonese people they are choosing targets they believe to have military value and going out of there way to let civilians get out of the way. Some civilians will die it is the cost of war, it is a bad thing, it is why you shouldn’t start crap like this in the first place, every civilian death this week goes squarely on the shoulders who who ever planned authorized and executed the kidnapping of Israelies. Also on the people since then that haven’t managed to return said kidnapped people.
It’s all about poverty, I think. If I grew up in rubble, I might tend to think that blowing up some rich pig’s house would be a good idea.
IMO, this is like Spain in the 1930’s– a test war (or ‘Crisis’) between fascists and communists, except that the ‘communists’ this time are Shiite Muslims. The war profiteers are the ones who want this, they can control the oil without the hassle of democracy.
So you think that Israel should play lets make a deal with the kidnappers ??
Scott, if you want to argue with your straw-man, be my guest.
If you care half as much about Israel as you posture, you’ll do the work necessary to figure out that Israel and the U.S. have a lot of blood on their hands, as do the Palistinians.
There are a lot of very anti-semitic people all throughout the blogosphere. They dislike US support for Israel and they really hate AIPAC. I would encourage you to consider that your comments tend to confirm their opinion of Israel.
You guys need to put up warning signs before publishing something like “Brad Adds: (I cannot read Goldstein. It’s like watching a plane full of nuns crash into a kitten farm.)“
I had just taken in a mouthful of tea, and not yet swallowed. Made a mess all over my monitor. Fortunately unsugared, so its not sticky.
Great line!
At the risk of repeating myself, 3 weeks ago people in Lebanon got up went to work had some tourists, took their kids to school, worried about the babysitter etc…, then some Assholes killed some people and kidnapped some other people, there was a response and a demand give my people back and we’ll stop dropping bombs, which people are to blame this week and what did they do peacefully to achieve there mission before kidnapping and killing. I have never said the Israelies are always right or blameless in middle east deaths but this one I can’t seem to find a way to lay at their feet, maybe u can, but i can’t.
Rick B. – here at the lake, we call that a spew warning. My 8 still sticks – I use honey in my tea :-)
Scott, watch the Patrick Swayze movie RED DAWN. When the entire world with the excpetion of some in Israel and the U.S. watch, if they had to choose, they’d paint Israel and the U.S. as the Russians and Hezbolah as Patrick Swayze and his friends. That’s the 4G War that the U.S. and Israel are losing.
Has anyone tried to make the point that the Reichwingers’ Rope…Tree “meme” (damn, one hateth to use such a politicobabble mot-du-jour even when it is juste — oh well, [sings] meme-meme-meme-meme-meme-meme-meme…) specifically is an incitement toward mob violence/vigilantism, and would not imply a result of any sort of deliberative judicial procedure? Since when has a court of law sentenced anyone to be hung from a tree? I mean, even in meddy auld England, rapscallions and enemies of King and country danced from gibbets and gallows, not raggedy trees. Let’s see how well the erstwhile apostles of LAWNORDER can smoke a bong of that blend and remain on their feet.
john c. (#166),
late to the party and, no doubt, EPU’ed but,
i’m very much against AIPAC and some of the shenanigans they’ve pulled, and i’m somewhat against the, so-called, american foreign policy with regards to israel. we’ve supported israel when they’ve been wrong to much of the time. i do not think it’s right to bomb the hell out of lebanon because of hezbollah. it’s immoral and wicked. and it’s not in israel’s best interests, much less those of the U.S.
and saying that does not make me an anti-semite. but some of people seem to think so….
I don’t think your statements are anti-semitic fahrender. I think you are right on target. emptywheel has a great post “One Week,” over at thenexthurrah. Israel and the US are fighting a 3G war and everyone else is 4G.
I adore Sadly, No! Those guys are AWESOME!