
guest post by Taylor Marsh
The headlines are hair-raising.
Iraqi leaders have all but given up on holding the country together and, just two months after forming a national unity government, talk in private of "black days" of civil war ahead. ANALYSIS-Gloom descends on Iraqi leaders as civil war looms
What will Senator Joe Lieberman do, offer more stay the course campaigning?
Senator Harry Reid wants to talk about Iraq again. With over 100 attacks a day in Iraq, Reid is now at long last calling it what it is: a civil war. He says he’s been approaching Iraq "gingerly," but it’s now time for a new debate. That’s a far cry from his actions when Senators Kerry and Feingold offered a way through. The inspiration for Reid’s change of tone and heart is simple. There have been over 6,000 Iraqis killed in May and June, with 14,000 killed this year alone.
It’s bedlam.
In Baghdad and across much of the center and south of the country, the rhythms of normal life and commerce are rapidly breaking down in a sign that US and Iraqi government plans to build an effective security force are faltering. Reports of police standing aside as civilians get attacked are common, as are claims by survivors that government security forces, infiltrated by sectarian militias, took part in the killings.
The United Nations estimates 14,338 Iraqis were killed in the first six months of the year, and there are indications the rate of bloodshed is rising; more than 3,000 Iraqis were killed in June, most after the June 7 killing of Al Qaeda leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, whose death US officials had hoped would diminsh violence.
"The government promised security, but the increasing number of bombs in our neighborhood proves that they’re failing,” says Ibrahim Mohammed, who runs a leather-jacket store in Karada where sales have collapsed "to almost nothing" in the past few months.
The escalating violence induced the reclusive top Shiite cleric Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani to call Thursday "on those who are keen for the unity and future of this country … to exert maximum efforts to stop the bloodletting."
(snip)
In recent months he says the unit has captured a number of men they believed were running Shiite death-squads in the city. But the Interior Ministry, which oversees the police, secured the alleged killers’ freedom in all cases. "There’s too much interference from politicians, from the Americans, to do this job properly." He says that he and five other senior members of the unit are likely to quit soon.
Iraq’s police overwhelmed by violence
More than 3,000 Iraqis were killed in June, an escalation of the country’s death toll.
In other news, the Pentagon just sold $6 billion worth of arms sales to Saudi Arabia. They say it’s so U.S. forces won’t be needed. But could it be that somebody is getting nervous?
Meanwhile, regarding Lebanon…
And if you need a good laugh amidst all the headline horrors, check this out. The Wall Street Journal’s James Taranto is attacking… me.



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More sorrow.
Peace.
Oh yeah. Last throes. ..not. (Thanks, Taylor!)
Could their plan be to completely depopulate Iraq? It’s kinda looking that way.
History will not be kind to George Bush. He will be remembered as the President who lost Iraq, in addition to being the
Worst. President. Ever.
Mornin’, Christy. Yeah, last throes, indeed. (You betcha, my pleasure.)
This situation is exactly what Cheney and Richard Pearle and Bolton want. They have gotten their fondest wish. And bomb making corporations will be rolling in the dough.
American citizens, and regular everyday citizens of Lebanon, Iraq and others — not so much.
Looks like we’re turning another corner!
Is it actually possible that this is what the neo-clowns want?
That’s why we have to invade Iran now. ‘Cuz Iraq is fucked up beyond all repair. Time to get out and blame the disintegration on the Iraqis who just couldn’t get it together, despite everything we did for them.
Just like the damn Afghanis.
Jesus. You try to help a country out, and what do you get? Another day older, and deeper in debt.
But, you know … third time’s a charm and all that! Huzzah, and on to Tehran!
This situation is exactly what Cheney and Richard Pearle and Bolton want.
I think so, too. Iraq’s oil is safely sealed beneath a thin, but impenetrable layer of chaos.
PeteCO at 8 — too bad there’s a huge gang of angry rabble with ammo and IEDs around the corner waiting for us (and each other), isn’t it? SIGH
beth @4
Could their plan be to completely depopulate Iraq? It’s kinda looking that way.
The only plan in Iraq is to spend a ton of money, bankrupt the US to prevent us from spending on social programs, and keep the fighting going as long as possible. They aren’t even there for the oil, as attacks on the oil make their plans work even better.
And when Iraq no longer drains enough money from the treasury, they will find another country to attack.
http://harpers.org/sb-sources-…..33546.html
Negroponte block intelligence analysis of Iraqi civil war.
Bc, if you ignore it, it goes away.
Thanks Taylor for another great post.
Phil K @#11,
That’s an interesting point. I’m reading Kevin Phillip’s “American Theocracy” at the moment, and he raises the point that Iraq’s oil reserves are relatively untouched, compared to the Saudis and the rest of the Middle East.
Hey, John Casper, always a pleasure to visit FDL.
“Bc, if you ignore it, it goes away.”
lmao
OT This was remarked on yesterday but I only saw the original article today. What strikes me about it is its utterly gratuitous and misleading nature.
Title: Bush’s back rub magnified in cyberspace
By Jake Coyle, Associated Press
“Many writers saw a sexist aspect to Bush’s back rub. “This isn’t a Sigma Chi kegger, it’s the G8 Summit,” wrote blogger Christy Hardin Smith on Firedoglake.com.
(Bush was actually in Delta Kappa Epsilon. Another Web 2.0 truism: Blogs are not always friendly with the facts.)”
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/n…..htm?csp=27
Apparently, the MSM is not very fact friendly either. Bush has said and done a lot of inappropriate things which the MSM has chosen not to report and which we know about only because they get picked up by the likes of Letterman, Leno, and Jon Stewart. The point here is that what Bush did in Russia is part of a pattern of bad or poor conduct. It is not so much that the blogosphere is magnifying it as it is that the MSM has been consistently downplaying it.
As for Coyle’s correction of Christy, it is rather on the level of breathlessly reporting that someone has been identified as a “soccer mom” and, wait for this and feel the outrage, her kids play basketball. Coyle is being deliberately disingenuous, in that he takes a generic reference to a fraternity re: fratboy antics as if it were a specific claim, which if you read the quote it very clearly isn’t. Or maybe he studied journalism at the same school where Ted Stevens learned about the internet.
Whatever happened to that lovely PNAC theory to just go get the remnants of the old Iraqi royal family and plop down and that will take care of everything?
As I recall, it was a lovely plan. The Shiites would be thrilled to have the Sunni royal family back, they would rise up united with their Iraqi Sunni bretheren, overthrow Syria and Iran, which would finish off Hezbollah, and without Hezbollah Israel could solve all its problems.
Puppies and an ice cold Coke for everyone.
*sigh* What ever happened to the big thinking boys?
Riverbend has not posted in awhile, but her last post still haunts me. I hope she is safe.
>>>>>
The naivete of Americans who can’t believe their ‘heroes’ are committing such atrocities is ridiculous. Who ever heard of an occupying army committing rape??? You raped the country, why not the people?
(snip)
It fills me with rage to hear about it and read about it. The pity I once had for foreign troops in Iraq is gone. It’s been eradicated by the atrocities in Abu Ghraib, the deaths in Haditha and the latest news of rapes and killings. I look at them in their armored vehicles and to be honest- I can’t bring myself to care whether they are 19 or 39. I can’t bring myself to care if they make it back home alive. I can’t bring myself to care anymore about the wife or parents or children they left behind. I can’t bring myself to care because it’s difficult to see beyond the horrors. I look at them and wonder just how many innocents they killed and how many more they’ll kill before they go home. How many more young Iraqi girls will they rape?
Why don’t the Americans just go home? They’ve done enough damage and we hear talk of how things will fall apart in Iraq if they ‘cut and run’, but the fact is that they aren’t doing anything right now. How much worse can it get? People are being killed in the streets and in their own homes- what’s being done about it? Nothing. It’s convenient for them- Iraqis can kill each other and they can sit by and watch the bloodshed- unless they want to join in with murder and rape.
http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/
Sorry to be OT, but has anyone seen the AP article today in re Bush groping Merkel, that mentions and quotes Christy & FDL by name – and then goes on to accuse her of playing fast and loose with the truth? Here’s the quote:
“Another Web 2.0 truism: Blogs are not always friendly with the facts.”
Just because she misidentified the fraternity Bush was in at Yale. Sheesh. I smell fear here. As we have seen more and more of lately, especially since Yearly Kos, the MSM is starting to pay attention to leftblogofascistan and they plainly don’t like what they see. Idiots.
Hugh at 19 — for the record, as I said below, I knew Bush was DeKE, but a DeKE kegger didn’t flow well, and as I wasn’t deliberately referencing Bush’s frat, I went with Sigma Chi as a metaphoric reference. But clearly, that went right past the AP writer — who needs to put Animal House in his Netflix queue pronto…
And, honestly, it just doesn’t matter. The fact that the line has gotten out there into the AP is worth it. hehehehe Now, people who have read the article will be thinking “frat boy at a kegger” when they see President Bush. Which was the whole intent in the first place. So, thank you, AP!
Remember what the Washington Post did to Jane with that Columbo remark? Now the AP goes after Christy, and the WSJ takes out after me. Me thinks corporate media is scared of losing their status. Too late.
throe up
Neo
GrifterCon Plan on track.Soon be time to pull back to permanent bases that are conveniently located on the country’s oil reserves.
I am glad Gore did not win in 2000. Even though I voted for him then and think he’s the best candidate for ‘08. They say that every dark cloud has a… well, we all know that old story. But if Gore had not “lost” we would be facing the cruel prospect of Vice-President Lieberman having a lock on the Democratic nomination for the presidency in 2008. And worse, perhaps, Lieberman being our leader for sixteen years thereafter. Can you imagine? I was crushed at the 2000 loss by Gore and the horrors I feared where ahead under the dictator Bush. But in the end, perhaps it was for the best. Maybe this is harsh reasoning, but speaking for myself only, I find comfort, solace and a way to put my brooding aside over the stain on freedom, that was the 2000 presidential election. Out of the evil, that was the rigged election of 2000, and the subsequent Bush rule, perhaps will come “the good”. Gore and Feingold ‘08!!!
My God. Combine Taylor’s Reuters link with Mary’s Harper’s one. Then try to get your mind around it.
Democratic donkey fleas, meet Mr. Taranto. Mr.Taranto, Democratic donkey fleas.Repeat as necessary.
Frat boy at a kegger who talks with his mouth full and touches women inappropriately.
Nice.
Speaking of frat boy kegger, get a load of this short editorial… Ewwww. We’re embarrassed again.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/…..ssaged.asp
hey, bustednuckles, absolutely.
Sun Tzu, 4th century BC author of The Art of War, said it best,”Avoid going to war in a place where you have little understanding of the people, culture and history.”
Churchill said, “The statesman who yields to war fever must realize that once the signal is given, he is no longer the master of policy but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events”.
Of course, if you’re charmed at the idea of being the War President it’s hard to pay attention.
And Halliburton’s profits for the third quarter were up 51% over the same period just last year.
The blood-letting is matched only by the greed.
What the NeoCons wanted was to install a pro-American and pro-Israeli government in Baghdad. And of course they also wanted those permanent bases. Not going to happen. As soon as the puppet government we installed falls we will be invited to get out. Could happen sooner than we think.
I don’t know why everyone has such a problem recognizing the outbreak of peace.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..07_pf.html
meandering – I still think it’s really interesting that Merkel was having a talk with Italy’s Prodi when it happened. Bush didn’t really stop long enough to ask Prodi about how the SISMI investigation was going, did he?
Taylor, you are such a pessimist — you need to turn that blue state frown upside down, and look at all the good news!!!
The privatization opportunities in Iraq have allowed Halliburton and other mercenary outfits to get filthy rich!!!
If that’s not the BushMurkan way, I don’t know what is!!!
Who cares about civil war? For the NeoCons, smoking ruins and dead bodies in any-Middle-East-country-that-is-not-Israel are a good thing!!!
Iraq and Lebanon are smokin’ good times for the NeoCons. Syria, Iran, Jordan, the Gulf States of Oil, and Egypt — you’re next.
Billion’s for construction projects that are falling down? Make work profiteering for the next generation of mercenaries!!!
The US Army ground to dust in the Iraq sandbox? Decades of defense contracts to replace the equipment!!!
Armageddon and the Rapture? Closer than you think . . .
I just don’t see how any one can not see all of the good news!!!
#4 Beth, wrt depopulation; Marc Herold talks about the intention to maintain Afghanistan as an empty space here:
http://www.cursor.org/stories/emptyspace.html
PeteCO,
While Iraq does have some relatively unexplored areas and undeveloped capacity, these have been greatly overstated. Some of the wilder estimates claim reserves larger than those of Saudi Arabia. Perhaps the main reason that Iraq’s reserves appear bigger is not because there is more oil there but because of sanctions and war they are being depleted less rapidly than those of their neighbors.
For more on this view, I would suggest:
http://www.brookings.edu/views…..030512.htm
Taylor,You do SUCH an excellent job.It’s heartbreaking and nightmareish what is happening around the ME these days. I don’t think civil war is an accurate depiction of what we see happening in Iraq. All out anarchy seems to be more accurate.No one is in control of anything.Armed mobs roaming the streets and dragging people out of their homes and torturing them horribly before executing them without anyone even bothering to find out who’s doing what to whom. And our men and women in the service trying to keep their heads down and out of the line of fire of EVERYONE.Heckofajob Bushie.
No need to panic. Just give things another Friedman and I’m sure they will all work out. The next Friedman will be critical. Critical in seeing how any more Freidmans we need, that is.
Taylor @ 24
Me thinks corporate media is scared of losing their status. Too late.
They are to the evolution of media as what Ted Stevens was to the development of the Internet.
Yeah, but Joe Lieberman says that things are going great — fabulous progress — in Iraq. I’m so confused … what should I believe?
Joe Lieberman or the rotting corpse of Iraq as a nationstate?
ROFL…that WSJ blurb is a hoot.
Is there any man in this country that doesn’t know that if you walk up behind a co-worker, a client, or any other woman in the office and put your hands on their shoulders you would be in HR’s office quicker than you could blink? Maybe there are exceptions in WSJ-Eliteville, but most American males know how much trouble that kind of move is.
But ya know…if it was Bill…well, at least he would have come out of it with an unhooked bra or sumthin’. I mean c’mon…W can’t even harass properly!
I know, ck, I have to work on that, now don’t I? ;-)
You know, bustedn, it’s hard to know what to call Iraq anymore. I’m still worried about Afghanistan.
Mary at 35, I was just about to post that link. Everyone take a good look if you haven’t seen it yet, b/c it is truly frightening.
There’s a place for us,
Somewhere a place for us.
Peace and quiet and open air
Wait for us Somewhere.
There’s a time for us,
Some day a time for us,
Time together with time to spare,
Time to look, time to care,
Someday!
Somewhere.
We’ll find a new way of living,
We’ll find a way of forgiving
Somewhere.
There’s a place for us,
A time and place for us.
Hold my hand and we’re half way there.
Hold my hand and I’ll take you there
Somehow,
Someday,
Somewhere!
Stephen Sondheim
3 things:
How is Angela doing in Germany after the attentions of the Chimp, are they giving her a hard time, are they asking for an apology?
Are the Turks marching south already?
Is Iran taking care of own Kurds already?
Couldn’t we just paint faster?
Why, all this increasingly raging violence PROVES that we are winning, it shows “how desperate they (the ‘insurgents’) are,” right?
Isn’t that what a Bushman said (”desperate”) within the last couple of days?
Last Throes, Day ______.
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MSNBC News Story Bullet: “Rice to lay out U.S. strategy”
Waiter! Check please!
dump and run – sorry if this Raw Story is a repeat:
Bobby G
Too true! When Bush people say things are going just as planned — take your kids to the bomb shelter.
The mustache of wisdom says things are showing signs of improvement. Just give it six more months.
Mary @ 35 it makes since: War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Ignorance is Strength
If a Friedman is six months, what is the name for six weeks?
Anyway — HoJo is running around saying “A Friedman, a Friedman, my Kingdom (or party loyalty) for a Friedman!!! Or part of a Friedman!!! Whatever!!! Help me, help me, squadrons of dirty hippie rabid venomous lambkin poodle bloggers are kissing me to death!!!”
or something like that . . .
six weeks is a Bayh, IIRC
It should be noted that the central govt in Iraq is launching an attempt at unification and reconciliation this weekend (which perhaps leads to the talk of civil war on Reuters) but the plan is not being welcomed by leaders of the resistance *because it does not require a withdrawal of US troops* .
Looks like the “El Salvador” strategy is working just the way Negroponte and pals hoped.
MFI has a translation from the arabic souce for this information (no pictures Lotus)
http://gorillasguides.blogspot…..st_20.html
Harry @47 – I’ve asked some contacts to find out how Chancellor Merkel and the Germans are reacting, as well as the German media. What I’m hearing so far is that the Germans don’t respect President Bush at all, so the disrespect he showed Merkel doesn’t surprise them. “He’s a jerk,” is what I’m hearing.
The first thing I thought about with Coyle’s correction of Christy was, oh sure they are ready to dig deep to find a frat affiliation for the Chimp, but any real facts…nah, that is too much work and besides it shows the idiot for what he is.
zergle 49 -
Yeah, LOL!
I may have to update my Rice-a-phony jpeg of yore, apropos of current events:
http://www.bgladd.com/Bush_Mal…..e_Rice.jpg
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When it comes to dead and wounded in Iraq, the only number that matters to Bush is zero. That’s the number of Bush family members serving anywhere. His beautiful mind rest easy.
Thank God for the Cato Institute: http://www.cato-at-liberty.org…..ee-riders/
Bloodthirsty warmongering wankers that they are.
NPR Update — Israeli troops massing on the Lebanon boarder; reserve troops being called up.
Who would have guessed that one kidnapped soldier could be the proximate cause of WW-III/IV/V?
Answer — anyone who takes the NeoCons seriously . . .
ck #54:
A quarter-Friedman.
5 and half years and counting … and I still refuse to refer to Bush as “the President”. His administration is a cheat and a sham.
Nope, that didn’t work.
Froomkin: http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..41_pf.html
Sorry — still reeling from siun’s and angie’s links.
So, in 1/8 of a Friedman or 1/2 of a Bayh, can we wave Bye-Bayh to HoJo?
“Heeee’s Baaack!!!”:
by emptywheel
Steve Clemons reports that Richard Lugar will schedule consideration of John Bolton’s reappointment as Ambassador to the UN next Thursday. Already, George Voinovich
has pulled a Specterannounced he will vote for Bolton. Which means unless we can find another Republican to bail on Bolton, we can look forward to another ugly conflict on the Senate floor. Maybe….”I thought a Friedman was 6 weeks. I thought a Bayh was just skippig it totally.
It’s interesting, isn’t it – that as the CIA gears up for really trying to get another NIE out on Iraq civil war, Negroponte gets his pal, who has already shown he doesn’t have problems with misfibbing to Congress, in charge.
Leslie – it is a disturbing story. For all the concern people are showing about the Dem party losing its soul – you’d think someone might have noticed a bunch of unfettered minds wandering loose in the streets of DC this last half decade.
Per article in the WaPo, Bush continues to say that war=peace:
“…In the administration’s view, the new conflict is not just a crisis to be managed. It is also an opportunity to seriously degrade a big threat in the region, just as Bush believes he is doing in Iraq. Israel’s crippling of Hezbollah, officials also hope, would complete the work of building a functioning democracy in Lebanon and send a strong message to the Syrian and Iranian backers of Hezbollah.,,” In Mid East Strife, bush sees step to peace
And, of course, since he’s doing so well at bringing peace and tranquility to Iraq, he must be right about the Israel/Lebanon conflict too…
Lanny Davis on his friend HoJo:
He’s not depressed, he’s not sad, he’s not down–he is furious. I’ve been there with him since his first campaign in 1970, and I’ve never seen him this angry.
Actually, HoJo has every right to be angry. Hadassah’s lobbying career is going to be so over, about 10 seconds after HoJo is bounced on his ass.
What corporation is going to waste money on an ex-Senator’s wife, once her pillow talk lobbying opportunities are kaput?
http://billmon.org/archives/002548.html
Hilarious billmon
ck 62
In that amassing of IDF forces prepping to invade Lebanon is the 21 year old son of a lifelong friend of mine, Jewish cat who emigrated to Israel 20 years ago and is now an eminent Israeli psychologist. Dov is an IDF tank commander – though he looks like a kid.
I have major anxiety for him. They are a great family of loving people. I hate all this shit.
_
after the June 7 killing of Al Qaeda leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, whose death US officials had hoped would diminsh violence.
Repeat after me: “Hope is not a plan.”
And all this corner-turning reminds me of something like this.
From his point of view, HoJo probably feels like the Donald Sutherland character at the end of The Day of the Locust.
Those closing shots of Karen Black were hot.
BobbyG –
I feel for your friend and his son —
The world is being driven over a cliff by mental midgets who can’t see past the end of their nose.
I don’t know what’s sadder about the AP attack on Christy; that they failed to see the Chimenfuhrer’s actions as abominable, or that they were unable to recognize a reference to Animal House. That they correctly identify FDL as a threat to the status quo, is encouraging ;)
Interesting about Merkel…she has come out in agreement with Bush over the stem cell issue. These people won’t be happy until we have an honest to God Dark Ages II going on officially.
Not exactly OT, but close
http://www.upi.com/SecurityTer…..5436-2715r
A Rand Corp. terrorism expert says al-Qaeda is going strong.
Earlier this year, a Heritage Foundation goodfellow, James Phillips, took the position that al-Qaeda was seriously hamstrung and impaired.
The Radn expert, Hoffman, calls that wishful thinking. He pretty much seems to think we’ve not only lost the radicalization battle for this generation, and the next. And that the focus needs to be on not being in the same fight with the generation after that.
And there is one resource that could help shape what that message should be that is not being tapped — the hundreds or thousands of prisoners held in the war on terror. They are regularly pumped for tactical intelligence. However, unlike the effort during the Vietnam war to build a complete understanding to the Viet Cong — what motivates them to join, how they train and recruit — no similar intelligence effort is underway with the new enemy, Hoffman said.
Of course, if he would just listen to Bush, Hoekstra, Roberts, et al he would discover that we don’t need to do that. After all, we already know that they hate us for our freedom.
Karen Black was the first Hollywood crush I had back in the day. Man o man was she on fire! Where has she been for a while now? She was a pretty good actress, a swell looker and smart as hell. Oh yeah, this is the same industry that thinks Adam Sandler is funny.
This invasion (and have no doubt, it IS an invasion) is going to much more bloody than people realize. Hezbollah is not weak, and they will counter the move forcefully. The thing that worries me is that Israel is scared to death of looking weak. If they start taking heavy losses in this move, they won’t stop. Pulling back simply isn’t an option from their view. They’ll just keep throwing more firepower into the situation. That’s when body counts really start going up.
Even if they do manage to weaken Hezbollah, it may do enough damage to their own capabilities so that Iran or Syria may see it as an opening.
…which would make the neocons jump for joy I’m sure.
ACK!!! I see nothing about this situation that doesn’t say things are going to get a whole hell of a lot worse before they get better.
In the first quote, I saw ‘”black days” of civil war ahead’. One of the ways you can tell something is rotten is the inability to talk about it honestly and truthfully. This has characterized most of the discussion of Iraq before, during, and after the invasion.
Even in this quote you can see a disinclination to say the civil war is here. It’s still ahead. At first, it was called sectarian attacks, conflict, and violence. Then it became (as I have said elsewhere) a kind of, sort of, threshold of, verge of, descending into, escalating into, nascent, imminent, looming, undeclared civil war “ahead”. It’s a civil war and it’s been going on for months.
Afterthought 9
I don’t know if the destruction of Iraq is what they want (probably not) but I do think they have learned that wars and chaos are their friends.
I think what we’ve seen over the past 5 years is that war is the most efficient method for the transfer of wealth from the working class to the wealthiest class. Ever.
While everybody is worrying about patriotism, being spied upon, gas prices and other survival issues, private corporations can steal 8 BILLION dollars – - in cash – - in broad daylight in Iraq with hundreds of witnesses.
And do they have to worry about a Congressional Investigation or being held to account in any other way? Heck no. Nor any extended attention from the Establishment Media, either. This is a Time Of War!
Meanwhile, wealth transferring legislation (Medicare “reform”, Bankruptcy “reform”, tax “reform”) is enacted by a complicit Congress (I’m talkin’ to you, Joe Lieberman.) which dares not resist a War President in a time of war.
Whatever these wars may have started out as, they have become the greatest tool for transfer of wealth in the history of the world.
I think we need to cut the AP reporter some slack — he may have outwitted his editors, through the backhand criticism of Christy.
By attacking the blogger, he was able to get the whole narrative into his article. If he’d played it straight and called the Chimpster a frat boy doofus, he would have been bounced to the sidewalk.
Did he get the name of the blog right?
…and your little dog, too @ 83
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/21/121748/366
You were saying?
Casper 69: I don’t get it. I don’t get it. Did I mention I don’t get it?
A recess appointment like that was a presidential thumb in the senatorial eye.
You’re a senator. Your opinion on Bolton has been publicly declared irrelevant. The president is at 34%. People are publicly noting the disastrous civil war in Iraq and the failure of diplomacy in Lebanon, and you’re already on the record as thinking Bolton’s a menace to diplomacy. And now you’re changing your vote to support Bolton?
A simple assignment for some enterprising Ohio journalist: How does the Senator square his earlier remarks on Bolton with the urgent present need for delicate and effective diplomacy in Lebanon and Iraq?
in case you missed it, here’s a little comment from Late Nite, slightly modified – an odette to the NeoCons.
Mary at 69, lol – so a Bayh is six weeks, unless you’re in CT – then it’s a big fat zero.
The really infuriating thing is that of course people in DC – both the pols and the MSM – have been aware of those unfettered minds, GWB’s chief among them, all along, or at least for some time now. But they have all (with a few notable exceptions) refused to say anything about it.
Bobby G – war is one of the most un-democratic things there is, because the violence of the few always winds up being imposed on the many, with or without their consent.
Message to Coyle – “Lighten up Francis…”. Of course he wouldn’t understand that reference either.
Sir Darth-Her Bonehead Coyle
The Bolton renomination just goes to show that in the Bush Administration you can only succeed if you are truly incompetent.
At some point Bush will declare victory in Afghanistan and Iraq.
“Another victory like that and we are done for.” — Pyrrhus of Epirus
punaise –
The ideomatic Bull Moose third person self reference is prefaced with a The —
As in, The Punaise is going *poof* now . . .
Zergle at 84 – that is also very scary. Newt wants to take us straight into Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace. The fact that he still can go on tv and get a public hearing is enough reason to agree that he is still a danger. I agree with the diarist that we need to watch him very closely, and anyone else who wants to ramp up the war rhetoric to ever-higher levels.
How many Republican/conservatives would be a little more than pissed if the friendly “office liberal” had chosen to give their wife an impromptu massage in the workplace?
They would sputter with rage and then take a Viagra to get over the humiliation.
-GSD
-ck-, dashing sort that you are, The Punaise thanks you for that clarification.
dang it — spel chek doesn’t work unless you use it. That should be ‘idiomatic’ . . .
Zergle 43
Neal Conan, according to those who heard his response to a caller on Talk of the Nation.
“idiot, mad at it” works for Wittmann
ack!
>>>>>>>>
Ivy Leaguers were evacuated first from Lebanon by private security firms, while students from other schools had to wait days for the United States Embassy to make arrangements, according to ABC News.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0721.html
>>>>>>>>>>
Now whose gonna take responsibility for the evacuation of all innocents?
Nobody. Though Syria is becoming a refuge for thousands from Lebanon and Iraq. I’d say they were doing a far better job of humanitarianism than some other superpowers *cough*. They are kind of a poor country, but they seem to have compassion for desperate and displaced people.
Just saying.
Little ricky is batshit crazy
Taylor:
Congratulations on the WSJ attack – wear it like the badge of honor it really is. The MSM seems to suppress news that reflects bad on president Bush. Your piece on “the backrub” seems to have been the red flag that finally provoked a response. In so doing, the WSJ gave you credit for a story and also published it – what more could you want?
Leslie @ 94
Agreed, though I just can’t see too many Americans buying Newt’s BS. At least not now. The Bush Admin has pretty much filled up America’s BS bucket capacity. Plus, a lot of Republicans view Newt as a lot of Dems view Hillary. That is to say they’d see him as a lightning rod that would be hard to overcome.
However, if a Dem gets into office in 08, and comes even remotely close to tripping, Newt will be there in 12. He’s not done yet.
little dog @ 98
Let him try that at my office. Clean-up on aisle 12!
I mean, sure there are exceptions if you know the person REALLY well, but to do it in a public setting? 2-3 people that have been working together for years, maybe. But in a room full of people? Not a chance.
Taylor, question for you: When you implore Taranto and his ilk to “Get a room”, that’s by himself, right?
there’s a great photo with a car driving off the cliff after having clearly ingnored the signs of the raod at end
the text is;
“stay the course”
would like to see that again
Condi spouting the usual nonsense … it’s all Hizbollah, those terrorists …
and we wonder why we are hated.
one more time
little ricky is batshit crazy
The Consequences of Politicizing Intelligence
by emptywheel
“We went to war against an Iraq that had no WMD–what some have already called the biggest foreign policy blunder in American history–because intelligence professionals gave the administration what it wanted. Because the DOE didn’t want to fight against IC consensus on Iraq’s purported nuclear proliferation in spite of the fact they knew the aluminum tubes were probably intended for rockets, because the CIA chose to ignore INR’s debunking of Niger intelligence, because others in the CIA ignored warnings about Curveball, we now have a huge chunk of our military mired in the middle of a civil war (as Pat Lang tells us, with our supply lines increasingly at risk) at the center of a region that looks set to spin out of control….”
Two things.
During the time I spent at a public university at the south in the mid-’70’s, the DKEs were the Animal House and Sigma Chi was more the poofy boy fraternity portrayed in the same movie. One could argue that Christy was simply trying to make it look better for W by not alluding to his association with a, how does one say, less than upstanding fraternity?
Second, has anyone read Wolcott today on Lebanon? When combined with the news on the cathnews website that Israel bombed a milk factory, I find it to be incredibly distressing:
http://jameswolcott.com/archiv…..vagery.php
Israel will not come out of this well. Most folks in the US do not know firsthand the stressors in Israeli life and most are post-Holocaust, so that does not have the same resonance as it did with a previous generation even though the story remains powerful. But the fact that the US has turned on a country that it was promoting less than a year ago as a beacon of democracy in the US combined with the savagery of the Israeli response does not bode well for future good will toward Israel.
108John Casper says
July 21st, 2006 at 10:51 am
The Consequences of Politicizing Intelligence
by emptywheel
“We went to war against an Iraq that had no WMD–what some have already called the biggest foreign policy blunder in American history–because intelligence professionals gave the administration what it wanted. Because the DOE didn’t want to fight against IC consensus on Iraq’s purported nuclear proliferation in spite of the fact they knew the aluminum tubes were probably intended for rockets, because the CIA chose to ignore INR’s debunking of Niger intelligence, because others in the CIA ignored warnings about Curveball, we now have a huge chunk of our military mired in the middle of a civil war (as Pat Lang tells us, with our supply lines increasingly at risk) at the center of a region that looks set to spin out of control….”
this is unequivically untrue
the president was informed in no uncertain terms that Iraq was not a threat, the finest military strategists and generals in the world implored the president NOT to initiate the unprovoked aggresion against Iraq, he was adviced with no doubt he would be exacerbating the fight against terrorism
he CANNONT blame the inteligence gathering agencies, their information was precise
I’ve got one solution to all of this war mongering BS. Enact a draft like it was in WW2. No exceptions…no special treatment…nothing. If you are of age then you go. Right now. (…and no I don’t want a draft, but I do want politicans to put their own families in the crosshairs as they so carelessly do with our soldiers.)
The problem with these idiots is that it’s been 40 years since any Americans have actually FELT war. When they are sending their own kids off to war, or having to send off their college roomate’s kid off to war, they’ll think twice about opening their fat mouths.
it’s all Hizbollah, those terrorists
It’s just a few “bad apples,” and we’re doing this for their own good.”
Zergle 102 – People shouldn’t have listened to Nixon, either, and look how he came back. There is a pretty strong human capacity for self-deception. And, most importantly, Newt isn’t the only one.
Not trying to be gloom and doom – I think there is also a good chance that people will get fed up and say “enough!” (speaking of which, I saw a “Had Enough?” bumper sticker this morning). But we can’t count on it – eternal vigilance is still the price of freedom.
Zergle 103
And I still think people are overlooking Junior’s (unthinking) goal in the move he put on the Chancellor.
The Chancellor of Germany was in a conversation with the Prime Minister of Italy which didn’t involve Himself.
His hands-on approach didn’t just violate sexual harrassment norms, nor merely show what a creep Himself is. Nor did it only send the universal signal for boy-girl possission.
No, he put a complete stop to a discussion between two world leaders. Unbelievable – - on every possible level.
There was a time when something like that would have started a war.
I think our country has slipped into a state madness and I don’t know if it will be able to come out from it.
-GSD
New thread of grooves from Donita!
siun says
July 21st, 2006 at 10:48 am
Condi spouting the usual nonsense … it’s all Hizbollah, those terrorists …
>>>>>>>>>
didja catch her fangs and the ripped flesh and blood hanging from them?
Thank G*d for our court jesters – how would we stay sane without them?
BREAKING: Live Footage of Bush’s Arrival to Private GOP Fundraiser in Cherry Hills, Colorado.
http://www.progressnowaction.o…..i7r/02bXVX
(Oh please, please, please let this be in the western part of Cherry Hills. The subdivision in that part of Cherry Hills is ‘Swastika Acres.’ It’s probably in the high priced eastern part of Cherry Hills, though.)
Angie … yep and I noted that her idea of going to the ME is to fly to Israel and then to … Rome?
sorta makes it clear where our sympathies lie, eh?
(Thinking she’d made a great phalangist madame commandant)
Oklahoma kiddo way back at 27
I cannot believe you feel that way about the 2000 “election”!
You regard Gore’s “loss” in 2000 (it was STOLEN, bluenose-dammit!) being a “good thing” because otherwise, we’d be facing the icky prospect of a veepJoe “lock” on the Dem prez nomination in 2008. HUH?!?!?!
NO! NOOO!!! and NOOOOOO!!!!!!
A quick scan thru comments, & I couldn’t find any reaction to this. Is everyone in agreement with OKkiddo???
All the wanton greed, waste, physical destruction and carnage, horribly damaged foreign relations, possibly irreversible environmental degradation . . . .
[feelings totally outstrip limited vocabulary at this point]! What planet have you been on these past 5 1/2 years!?!
I saw Gore’s movie. I assume you did too. He cobbled together some tentative rays of hope twd the end of it, IF mankind is willing and able to pull out all the stops ASAP and work together.
Have you looked out your window lately, past that one little cloud with the silvery lining you think you see???
YES! Gore/Feingold in 2008 I would buy, in a split second!
Virtually ALL the rest of your musings. . . well, I’m obviously not quite speechless, but appalled!!!
Is my math right? THe US population is more than ten times greater than Iraq’s so if this loss of life were happening here we would have lost more than 143,000 Americans in the last six months. No big deal.
Hey, Jake Coyle. Yeah, you, hunched over your latte-ringed desk.
What difference does it make what frat is referred to?
I know that, for the most part, modern mainstream journalists inhabit the ever-so-hip-and-edgy post-literate wasteland where luminaries such as Hunter S. Thompson are venerated as ‘journalists’ rather than ‘authors’ (thus inculcating into the mainstream the written sense of ‘truthy’…Factsy) but as the reference was used as an indirect, and not a direct component of the sentence (example of ‘direct’: ‘This isn’t a Sigma Chi, Bush’s former fraternity, kegger…yada yada’)…What difference does it make what frat is referred to?
See, all the kewl kids know the game…”Oh, you misdirected our attention to an unconnected aspect of the story within your opinion piece…Blogs play loose with the facts!”…”Oh, you personally singled out an entire worldwide organisation for unwarranted criticism by linking it with one individual…Blogs are meanie meanersons who don’t play nice!” “Oh, you’ve highlighted some unpleasant realities that conflict with the version of events that we wish the public to accept so that they will continue to lead complacent, productive, cud-chewing lives that don’t interfere with the Shadow Government’s lockstep superimposition of their brand of reality, not to mention our precious corporate advertising revenues…Think of the children and don’t make me clutch my pearls!”
But now that Joe, Janet, Junie and Junior Netizen are beginning to see this tarty little fan dance for what it is…A weak defensive feint that only has power in the mind of the reciever, should they allow it to sully them so…You and your ilk are one giant step closer to that cozy tar pit, the permanent seista zone for all such species who have outlived their useful idiocy.
Junior did a hands on maneuver y’day after his NAACP address–this time to African American Congressman Al Green. The photo is pure nasty.
http://www.first-draft.com/mod…..mp;thold=0
siun, yep. They have fine shoes and special dispensation available in Italy, too!
Monster.
Ok Kiddo #27, I appreciate your frustration/anger, but that’s just silly. :)
IMO, Joe’s not the devil incarnate, he’s just not the best choice for the position. Not by a long shot.
I also state emphatically that if Joe wins the primary, I will back him in the general. Also, it’s important to remember that even w/ yesterdays polling, Joe is the odds-on favorite.
If he loses the primary, I expect him to accept it gracefully and support Ned. If he does not, as he has previously stated, then the gloves come off.
I’m just a no-body, but I think that’s pretty much the general sentiment across CT and USA Dems.
Personally, I think it is great that Christie, Jane, and Taylor are getting such high profile shots fired at them. Shows me something. What is that saying “First, they ignore you…” Seems as if we have moved past that first stage.
Taylor Marsh @ 24 — too late, indeed.
I wish I could remember who first said this: For the MSM, their product is not news and information. Their product is eyeballs. Their client is the advertisers. For them, content is bait.
That’s why they have already failed as a going concern, though they haven’t realized it yet because they are, to use a phrase, in their last throes.
The MSM’s personal mythology is that they are news and information providers. Their reality is, they are bait danglers. They believe their own press. They agree with each other and self-reinforce the myth that the bait is actually news and information. They don’t know that the latest blond missing in dysurbia is not news or information. That name-calling and score-keeping, while easy and cheap to do, just doesn’t bring in the eyeballs like it used to do. They have made themselves irrelevant, and they don’t even know it.
I mean, how many of us watch and read the MSM not to understand what is going on in the world but rather to see what the establishment has decided to make the narrative of the day? In other words, I wonder just how much of the MSM’s dwindling audience is watching in full skeptical boogy, screaming at them — laughing at them?
I love the title Crashing the Gate. In this context, as the gates are being crashed, the gatekeepers have been exposed as irrelevant.
And that, more than any other reason, is why I fear for the future of net neutrality. Because, though it’s “too late” as you say, and corporate media has already lost its status, the fact that regular people can find out the truth about what is going on in the world, outside the gatekeeping function of corporate media, is a grave danger to the sweet deal the corporations have going in this country. After all, they’ve usurped democracy quite nicely and they will do everything they can to ensure their hegemony.
Taylor Marsh, et al, cannot be permitted to get to the eyeballs. The internets must be destroyed.
[sheesh! all I really meant to write was: you go girl!]
kri$tool heart$ his joe;
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/el….._lieberman
My family got an e-mail from my nephew (air force, embedded in an army unit) announcing he would not be home early as he had previously been told. The army unit was just told that their tour of duty had been extended a month, as well.I’m not optimistic about anything in that part of the world. I won’t be optimistic until Congress changes and Bush is put out to pasture. I’d suggest jail, but I have nothing against the existing prisoners or staff.
The MSM were so taken aback by W’s grope of Merkel they let a whole news cycle go by without mentioning it. Can’t show the Dear Leader engaging in sexual harrassment!
But when “the clip” hit the blogosphere, THAT became the story they could report.
For example, on Wednesday, “the grope” wasn’t mentioned at all on ABC’s “Good Morning America” — a show that generally toes the GOP line.
But on Thursday, the proliferation of YouTube and other blogger criticism of the grope resulted in a truly surreal segment on GMA. Bush’s behavior was compared to Putin kissing the young boy. The segment ended with Kate Snow, the newsreader who introduced the segment, draped over the shoulders of the seated (young, alpha male) WABC news anchor who was sitting in for Diane Sawyer. Neither looked particularly comfortable. As they went to commercial, Robin Roberts, the other GMA anchor, could be heard saying “Well, I’m not going to kiss your belly…”
We need Bill Murray to give the Iraqi soldiers a pep talk ala STRIPES.
Re; #7.
Grandma, this is NOT what the neo-cons want.
They thought they could get away with turning Iraq into our 51st state.
They cannot get away with turning it into a giant, bloody-assed, chaos-theory petrie dish.
The only reason they’re trying to “stay the intercourse” is that they have NO options left to do anything else.
Bush is like a drunk in Las Vegas. He’s pawned his watch, his car, his cellphone, and now wants to double down with just onnnne more regime-change bet, but he has to call home and mortgage the house and get into the kids’ college fund, to do it. Not a prob.
If they can hang on until the mid-terms, there’s some slight chance of the repubs keeping control of both houses of congress. If not, then the committee hearings into Chalabi, etc.’s run-up “intelligence”, and into the $12 Bil that Halliburton has gotten from Operation Endless Clusterfuck are going to rear their ugly heads like T-Rex’s waking up, to negatively involve repubs in the Jurassic food chain.
This one’s for all the marbles, boys and girls. ALL of ‘em.
We dasn’t let them leave the shitmire for the next administration. If that happens, the nano-second the next prez takes office, it will all become his (or her) fault. All of the lying bullshit they used to drag us into this, will disappear into a corporate-induced fog of MSM snarfgoorple.
Every wasted dollar;
every coffin flown back into Dover AFB;
every body part flying through the air in Iraq, will be on the next occupant’s political bartab.
Very little of it, on the bushCo tab.
As we know, the problem is going to be with dems like Lieberman and the Clintons. They are obviously still willing to tote the bloody, corporate hod, for these bastards.
But it’s going to get so bad, that I think even they, won’t play will rats on the USS Bushtanic, but will head for the hawserlines, just like a lot of dems AND repubs.
We need…the firestorm, where middle-america is looking at the congressional record from 3-plus years ago, to check those enabling votes, to see who was naughty and who was nice.
L’es get ‘em. :o)