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		<title>By: Dave Markman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/20/pedal-to-the-metal/#comment-198892</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Markman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 19:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi James,&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for taking the time to review the software.  I can see that you’re really unhappy about our approach, somehow really mad at us (the designers), and I hear what you’re saying.  At this point, I’m pretty sure you’re wrong on all counts, and as the site is doing its job, don’t see anything in your comments that’s more important than the other things I’m working on. But if you want to pick your favorite -one- and send it on by, be glad to respond. Be sure you know that even though you think we’re incompetent, we HAVE thought very carefully about the issues you raise and just came to different conclusions.  I may be apologizing for things that are MISSING, but I’d be happy to defend any decision we made about what’s not.  We’re planning a v3.0 soon after we win the primary, and hope to have lots more input from folks like y’all before then.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James,<br />
Thanks for taking the time to review the software.  I can see that you’re really unhappy about our approach, somehow really mad at us (the designers), and I hear what you’re saying.  At this point, I’m pretty sure you’re wrong on all counts, and as the site is doing its job, don’t see anything in your comments that’s more important than the other things I’m working on. But if you want to pick your favorite -one- and send it on by, be glad to respond. Be sure you know that even though you think we’re incompetent, we HAVE thought very carefully about the issues you raise and just came to different conclusions.  I may be apologizing for things that are MISSING, but I’d be happy to defend any decision we made about what’s not.  We’re planning a v3.0 soon after we win the primary, and hope to have lots more input from folks like y’all before then.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Markman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/20/pedal-to-the-metal/#comment-198873</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Markman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Linda, We love you.  Your suggested text or something very close will be there in v2.3, hopefully in the am (sat).  We can talk about other races when Senator Lamont says we can go home.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda, We love you.  Your suggested text or something very close will be there in v2.3, hopefully in the am (sat).  We can talk about other races when Senator Lamont says we can go home.</p>
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		<title>By: mave</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/20/pedal-to-the-metal/#comment-198739</link>
		<dc:creator>mave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;james - you misunderstand the entire purpose of this tool. it exists only to find friends and send them postcards. the friends you search through are people who exist in the voter file, NOT people who have signed up previously. it is accessed only through the nedlamont.com home page, and is not promoted as a “free-standing” site.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;although this would all be clear with better text and a different way of talking to the user.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>james &#8211; you misunderstand the entire purpose of this tool. it exists only to find friends and send them postcards. the friends you search through are people who exist in the voter file, NOT people who have signed up previously. it is accessed only through the nedlamont.com home page, and is not promoted as a “free-standing” site.</p>
<p>although this would all be clear with better text and a different way of talking to the user.</p>
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		<title>By: LindaR</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/20/pedal-to-the-metal/#comment-198711</link>
		<dc:creator>LindaR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good morning all.  Dave, if you check back in:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Suggested language for opening contact with user:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; Your email address is your unique username for the Friends, Family &amp; Neighbors program.  We won’t give it to anyone for any purpose, not even the campaign.  We will use it to communicate with you about using Friends, Family &amp; Neighbors.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Will this tool be available for other campaigns?  I see it as potentially &lt;i&gt; quite&lt;/i&gt; powerful in a district like mine, CA-04, that is geographically huge and physically hard-to-cover.  Plus, the independents and Democrats traditionally fly under the radar here.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning all.  Dave, if you check back in:</p>
<p>Suggested language for opening contact with user:</p>
<blockquote><p> Your email address is your unique username for the Friends, Family &amp; Neighbors program.  We won’t give it to anyone for any purpose, not even the campaign.  We will use it to communicate with you about using Friends, Family &amp; Neighbors.</p>
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<p>Will this tool be available for other campaigns?  I see it as potentially <i> quite</i> powerful in a district like mine, CA-04, that is geographically huge and physically hard-to-cover.  Plus, the independents and Democrats traditionally fly under the radar here.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/20/pedal-to-the-metal/#comment-198698</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK - I thought I’d take a look. I’ve worked in IT as a systems analyst or whatever we call it these days for over 20 years.  The following are notes I took during the 5 minutes I spent with it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1.	Sign up process&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;	This is not secure.  Either a password and registration, or ‘reenter your password’&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;	Decide on the level of security and stick to it.   This is two levels, not one.  If I sign up without&lt;br /&gt;
	a password anyone can put words in my mouth later.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;	If you’re going to use my name and address you need a round-trip validation process to make sure it’s&lt;br /&gt;
	really me.  Something like the “we’ll send you an email with a confirmation code” that many sites&lt;br /&gt;
	use.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2.	… and it doesn’t work anyway.   Retyping password does nothing.  Fix this, or fix the text.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3.	Getting Started (name, address etc)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;	Should be a form, not a field by field dialog.  This is very primitive coding.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;4.	‘Find a Friend’&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;	This is displayed immediately after registration.  Why???? At this point I want some interaction/display&lt;br /&gt;
	from the system.   I want it to give me something, not just decide that it knows what I want to do&lt;br /&gt;
	(find a friend) and then force me to do it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;	‘Finding a friend’ is a search function that has *nothing* to do with why I (as the&lt;br /&gt;
	stand-in-for-the-normal-user) has come to this site.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;	If I want to ‘find a friend’ I look in my phone book.   On the other hand, if I want to know if they’re&lt;br /&gt;
	part of the campaign I’ll either already know or I’ll ask them myself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;5.	Then I get a list of names and addresses which kind of match my search criteria, but none of whom are&lt;br /&gt;
	the person I entered.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;	At this point, those other people have no privacy and - even though I don’t know them - I know their&lt;br /&gt;
	names and addresses.  Writing a bot to harvest identities out of this will be a doddle.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;6.	Then ‘Send a Postcard’&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;	At this point I’m asked to send a postcard to someone who has already registered.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;	What is the point?   The other person has already declared their support.  Are we supposed to send&lt;br /&gt;
	self-congratjulatory messages to the already converted?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;7.	Again, the last 3 steps are very primitive design.  I’m given a dialog with no intimation of&lt;br /&gt;
	it’s purpose, and I’m being spoon fed it field by field.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;8.	And I’m being led through a script.  This is system design at it’s worst.  This is worse than the&lt;br /&gt;
	old green-screen days (pre Mac).  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;	C’mon you guys run web sites, you know how to build them.  Rule #1: Let the user drive.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;9.	Question: what do I do if I don’t want to find a friend?  I can’t get to the main site unless&lt;br /&gt;
	I figure out that clicking on the main logo will get me there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In summary, this seems not to have been conceived well.  It’s difficult to figure out what it’s trying&lt;br /&gt;
to do.  Find a friend?  But only if they’re already a supporter?  Send them a postcard?  But only&lt;br /&gt;
if they’re already signed up?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe a blog format, with forums (and more collaborative, networky type stuff where people don’t&lt;br /&gt;
necessarily have to communicate via the server) might be better.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8211; I thought I’d take a look. I’ve worked in IT as a systems analyst or whatever we call it these days for over 20 years.  The following are notes I took during the 5 minutes I spent with it.</p>
<p>1.	Sign up process</p>
<p>	This is not secure.  Either a password and registration, or ‘reenter your password’</p>
<p>	Decide on the level of security and stick to it.   This is two levels, not one.  If I sign up without<br />
	a password anyone can put words in my mouth later.  </p>
<p>	If you’re going to use my name and address you need a round-trip validation process to make sure it’s<br />
	really me.  Something like the “we’ll send you an email with a confirmation code” that many sites<br />
	use.</p>
<p>2.	… and it doesn’t work anyway.   Retyping password does nothing.  Fix this, or fix the text.</p>
<p>3.	Getting Started (name, address etc)</p>
<p>	Should be a form, not a field by field dialog.  This is very primitive coding.</p>
<p>4.	‘Find a Friend’</p>
<p>	This is displayed immediately after registration.  Why???? At this point I want some interaction/display<br />
	from the system.   I want it to give me something, not just decide that it knows what I want to do<br />
	(find a friend) and then force me to do it.</p>
<p>	‘Finding a friend’ is a search function that has *nothing* to do with why I (as the<br />
	stand-in-for-the-normal-user) has come to this site.  </p>
<p>	If I want to ‘find a friend’ I look in my phone book.   On the other hand, if I want to know if they’re<br />
	part of the campaign I’ll either already know or I’ll ask them myself.</p>
<p>5.	Then I get a list of names and addresses which kind of match my search criteria, but none of whom are<br />
	the person I entered.</p>
<p>	At this point, those other people have no privacy and &#8211; even though I don’t know them &#8211; I know their<br />
	names and addresses.  Writing a bot to harvest identities out of this will be a doddle.</p>
<p>6.	Then ‘Send a Postcard’</p>
<p>	At this point I’m asked to send a postcard to someone who has already registered.</p>
<p>	What is the point?   The other person has already declared their support.  Are we supposed to send<br />
	self-congratjulatory messages to the already converted?</p>
<p>7.	Again, the last 3 steps are very primitive design.  I’m given a dialog with no intimation of<br />
	it’s purpose, and I’m being spoon fed it field by field.</p>
<p>8.	And I’m being led through a script.  This is system design at it’s worst.  This is worse than the<br />
	old green-screen days (pre Mac).  </p>
<p>	C’mon you guys run web sites, you know how to build them.  Rule #1: Let the user drive.</p>
<p>9.	Question: what do I do if I don’t want to find a friend?  I can’t get to the main site unless<br />
	I figure out that clicking on the main logo will get me there.</p>
<p>In summary, this seems not to have been conceived well.  It’s difficult to figure out what it’s trying<br />
to do.  Find a friend?  But only if they’re already a supporter?  Send them a postcard?  But only<br />
if they’re already signed up?</p>
<p>Maybe a blog format, with forums (and more collaborative, networky type stuff where people don’t<br />
necessarily have to communicate via the server) might be better.</p>
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		<title>By: none</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/20/pedal-to-the-metal/#comment-198645</link>
		<dc:creator>none</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rayne, there is only a need for an aggragated post-primary effort if Lamont actually WINS THE PRIMARY.  And that’s very much in question given the state of things.  The GOTV effort is needed the most intensely RIGHT NOW, not after the primary.  The primary is going to be ENTIRELY about GOTV.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rayne, there is only a need for an aggragated post-primary effort if Lamont actually WINS THE PRIMARY.  And that’s very much in question given the state of things.  The GOTV effort is needed the most intensely RIGHT NOW, not after the primary.  The primary is going to be ENTIRELY about GOTV.</p>
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		<title>By: mave</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/20/pedal-to-the-metal/#comment-198435</link>
		<dc:creator>mave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 12:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;none: why the all-or-nothing thinking? this tool might not appeal to you, but it’s certainly appealed to many others, and surely that’s a “good thing.” after all, in a political campaign there can never be too many ways to get productively involved. no, this tool doesn’t &lt;em&gt;replace&lt;/em&gt; the personal touch, but it does complement it, and it’s not as though when this thing was created, the other approaches were thrown out. this is being done in &lt;em&gt;addition&lt;/em&gt; to other initiatives in the campaign. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and a clarification: this tool has existed for quite some time - it’s not “newly launched.” the first version, however, was incredibly poorly put together, and the one you see now is the result of efforts to redesign it. it works, it’s being used, and despite the obvious tweaks still needed, satisfies the key purposes required of it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>none: why the all-or-nothing thinking? this tool might not appeal to you, but it’s certainly appealed to many others, and surely that’s a “good thing.” after all, in a political campaign there can never be too many ways to get productively involved. no, this tool doesn’t <em>replace</em> the personal touch, but it does complement it, and it’s not as though when this thing was created, the other approaches were thrown out. this is being done in <em>addition</em> to other initiatives in the campaign. </p>
<p>and a clarification: this tool has existed for quite some time &#8211; it’s not “newly launched.” the first version, however, was incredibly poorly put together, and the one you see now is the result of efforts to redesign it. it works, it’s being used, and despite the obvious tweaks still needed, satisfies the key purposes required of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/20/pedal-to-the-metal/#comment-198397</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;GOTV needs people physically pounding the pavement, not tapping a keyboard.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;none, what if there simply aren’t enough bodies to go around to beat on the doors?  Is something better than nothing in contacting voters?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not talking about individual campaigns, but an aggregated coordinated campaign approach post-primary.  There are only so many activists to go around.  I figure in my state of 10 million residents, we can’t count on an average of more than 25 activists per county (83 counties) to do the GOTV leg work.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>GOTV needs people physically pounding the pavement, not tapping a keyboard.</i></p>
<p>none, what if there simply aren’t enough bodies to go around to beat on the doors?  Is something better than nothing in contacting voters?</p>
<p>I’m not talking about individual campaigns, but an aggregated coordinated campaign approach post-primary.  There are only so many activists to go around.  I figure in my state of 10 million residents, we can’t count on an average of more than 25 activists per county (83 counties) to do the GOTV leg work.</p>
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		<title>By: Eureka Springs, Ar</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/20/pedal-to-the-metal/#comment-198381</link>
		<dc:creator>Eureka Springs, Ar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 08:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In response to none I agree about the personal touch. I think an e-mail from a friend or family member will get a read at least.&lt;br /&gt;
This whole idea has roots project written all over it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to none I agree about the personal touch. I think an e-mail from a friend or family member will get a read at least.<br />
This whole idea has roots project written all over it.</p>
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		<title>By: none</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/20/pedal-to-the-metal/#comment-198327</link>
		<dc:creator>none</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dave Markman, re privacy, the program has a big problem that you’re not addressing at all.  The problem is bad enough that I don’t even want to post it here.  Post a PGP key if you have one, for details.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Suppose there are no problems and the thing works perfectly.  The result?  Junk mail postcards, ineffectual given the amount of junk mail everyone already gets.  It’s just spam on paper.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dean’s handwritten letters really made an impact.  I wrote several myself.  Anything that comes out of a computer is nowhere near as effective.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This program is well intended but is way too late in the game and doesn’t do the right stuff.  GOTV needs people physically pounding the pavement, not tapping a keyboard.  IT can help coordinate that but I don’t have a sense that this is being done.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lamont’s campaign is messing up in several other ways too.  I’m not even sure he really wants to win.  Certainly he’s approaching this like a newbie–we can’t hold that against him too much because he IS one.  But he should have studied the Dean campaign very closely, repeated the successes and avoided the errors.  And the successes with voters all involved human to human contact (meetups, door to door canvassing, handwritten letters) unmediated by computers.  The IT was all behind the scenes.  Of course people already involved used the net extensively for communication, but for someone uninvolved, anything that comes out of a machine is spam.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Markman, re privacy, the program has a big problem that you’re not addressing at all.  The problem is bad enough that I don’t even want to post it here.  Post a PGP key if you have one, for details.</p>
<p>Suppose there are no problems and the thing works perfectly.  The result?  Junk mail postcards, ineffectual given the amount of junk mail everyone already gets.  It’s just spam on paper.</p>
<p>Dean’s handwritten letters really made an impact.  I wrote several myself.  Anything that comes out of a computer is nowhere near as effective.  </p>
<p>This program is well intended but is way too late in the game and doesn’t do the right stuff.  GOTV needs people physically pounding the pavement, not tapping a keyboard.  IT can help coordinate that but I don’t have a sense that this is being done.</p>
<p>Lamont’s campaign is messing up in several other ways too.  I’m not even sure he really wants to win.  Certainly he’s approaching this like a newbie–we can’t hold that against him too much because he IS one.  But he should have studied the Dean campaign very closely, repeated the successes and avoided the errors.  And the successes with voters all involved human to human contact (meetups, door to door canvassing, handwritten letters) unmediated by computers.  The IT was all behind the scenes.  Of course people already involved used the net extensively for communication, but for someone uninvolved, anything that comes out of a machine is spam.</p>
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