
Well, Dear Leader really showed his true colors at this year's G8 summit. He's like your drunk uncle at the family barbecue; insulting the neighbors, interrupting conversations, tripping over the pets, until finally he's puking loudly and violently in the yucca plant and calling his new wife a stupid bitch for letting him get too wasted.
First came the roast pig. And no, unfortunately, that doesn't mean that John Bolton got a sunburn or set himself on fire with his own overheated rhetoric. It just means that early in the conference, when confronted with a non-softball question about the situation in Israel and Lebanon, Uncle Dubya declared that he'd rather talk about the fact that he gets to carve up the roast pig they're having for dinner. In the words of Jon Stewart, "There you have it. Comedy stylings from President George W. Bush. He'll be playing at the White House in Washington DC for the next two and a half years. I'm sure it's a 200-drink minimum." Watch the video here, and pay special attention to the look on German Chancellor Angela Merkel's face. That's what, in my family, we call "smiling through your teeth", also known as "smiling to keep from screaming". Oh, Angela! It's going to get worse for you before it gets, well, even worse.
Then came a little tragedy that I call "Open Mic Night at the Summit", in which Uncle Fucker, not having learned his lesson from that incident where he called New York Times reporter a "major league asshole" while sitting at a live mic, sat chawing away (with his mouth open!) on a buttered roll, talking arrogant smack for ALL THE WORLD TO HEAR while Tony Blair tried in vain to discuss the looming crisis in the ME. C&L has that video, too.
The thing that strikes me the most about that clip is not the s-word, not his cavalier attitude toward a crisis where hundreds if not thousands of people are suffering and dying, and not his disgusting table manners, but rather his completely fatuous and dismissive body language when speaking to the leader of the only country of import who supported his now-failed invasion of Iraq. He won't even turn and look at Blair. If that was your coworker or business partner acting that way at a conference, wouldn't you seriously start thinking about finding another job? 'Course, that might be just what Tony Blair needs to be doing.
The conversation devolved into a discussion of travel-plans, where Preznint Chucklefuck displayed his woeful ignorance of world geography. Claiming he had "something to do tonight" back in Washington (What, dickweed, ride your bike? Watch '24'?), he told Chinese President Hu Jintao and Russia's President Putin that he was bailing on this party, dude.
Later, in a confused exchange with Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, Mr Bush expressed his amazement that it will take Mr Putin just as long to fly home to Moscow as it will take him to fly back to Washington. Mr Putin's reply could not be heard.
Mr Bush said: "You eight hours? Me too. Russia's a big country and you're a big country. Takes him eight hours to fly home. Russia's big and so is China."
Then there was that other discussion with Vladimir Putin where El Presidente Stupido asserted that Iraq was a model of democracy in action, to which Putin (completely appropriately) responded, "We certainly would not want to have the same kind of democracy that they have in Iraq, quite honestly."
Ooooooooh, BURN!! But, you can't say the Bushbot didn't walk right into that one. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth. Why should this situation be any different?
The piece de la resistance came, however, when Chimpy interrupted a conversation between Chancellor Merkel and Romano Prodi, the new Italian Prime Minister, to give Merkel a rather ham-fisted impromptu shoulder rub, which clearly not only squicked her out, but also managed to piss her off enough to result in the photo at the top of this post, in which she seems to be giving vent to the same frustration that all Reality-Based Americans currently feel toward this shrugging, mugging, bumbling dickhead we call "Mr. President", i.e., "BACK THE FUCK OFF, YOU FUCKING IDIOT!"
The fabulous Lindsay B. of Majikthise nailed it when she said this:
Every woman will recognize the guy who sidles up and starts "casually" giving you a backrub without even looking at you, because he wants to preserve deniability in case you freak out. Like any practiced groper, Bush stares right past Merkel as she recoils from his touch.
Lindsay calls him a "drive-by harrasser", which couldn't be more apt. It reminds me of this guitarist I used to have. He was a good musician, but a social moron. The norms and mores of normal human interaction were completely beyond him. We would get into these situations on the road or doing radio station appearances or whatever where he felt totally out of his depth, surrounded by intelligent, classy people, so what did he do? He would start touching people. Usually me. And it was exactly this sort of bullying shoulder-rub that he would employ. Never mind that he was terrible at it and the feeling of his sweaty hands pinching and squeezing my shoulder muscles made me feel like I had been attacked by two pairs of hot, slightly damp pliers, he was showing everybody in the room that he was IN CHARGE and could touch and fondle other people at will, without asking permission, with no consideration of your feelings in the matter. It was all about him and his desire to make himself more comfortable, not you.
And of course, just like your shit-heel uncle waking up the day after the barbecue and declaring that it was a GREAT party, you know Resident Bush went back to Washington thinking he really showed those mealy-mouthed furriners who's The Boss, dammit. Who needs them and their stupid summits anyway? They can't even speak English, fer god's sake!
Gawd. Wake me in 2009, somebody. I don't know how much more of this kind of embarrassment and disgust I can take. No wonder our image is plummeting all over the globe! We're being represented and (supposedly) governed by a guy that can't not be a spoiled, childish rube long enough to effectively participate in a meeting of, oh, only the most powerful nations on the planet. That's just great. I am SOOOOO proud to be an American that I could just puke on my shoes. Whooo-hoooo.
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Rootz!
Ned!!!!!!!!!!eleven11!
ROOTS!
Darn, it takes so long typing all those exclamation points. Well done, Redshift.
P.S. Rootz!
Hee, hee! I just got lucky, and happened to load up the previous post right when the new one went up, so I saw the link to it right away.
Fitz!
his sweaty hands pinching and squeezing my shoulder muscles made me feel like I had been attacked by two pairs of hot, slightly damp pliers
You do have a way with words.
Everyone knows this creep, the guy who doesn’t observe anyone’s physical boundaries — and it absolutely serves his purposes to do so.
Is anyone going to let this baboon into their country when he is no longer Preznit? I’m thinking the reception will be rather cool when they are no longer forced to tolerate him.
Jane at 7, hopefully he won’t be able to go into another country for fear of being taken into custody and tried for crimes against humanity. I wish we could take care of that ourselves.
I really wonder if Bush’s impulse control is being physically affected. That is, we know from his upbringing and incidents from his earlier life that being a bully and an asshole is the “real” George W. Bush. It could be that he’s just decided that since he doesn’t have to run for re-election again, he’s the king and can do whatever the hell he wants. But I really wonder if, like the deterioration of language skills, it’s long-term damage from cocaine. I have a friend who used to work with former addicts professionally and had some choice observations a while back; I’ll have to get in touch with her and see what she thinks of the latest spate.
rootz!
ned ($2 for $1)
!!
So what *did* Dubya have to hurry home for that night? Anybody know?
I don’t want Clinton back either. We’ve seen the neo-con agenda, it is a failure. Why would we want neo-con lite?
How about trying something different?
Redshift 9, I got the distinct impression that Bush was either on drugs he was not supposed to be on, or was not on drugs that he was supposed to be on.
Mary Matalin said it best — Bush is political campaign terrorist.
Bush always wins; Bush never loses. If he has to take his ball and go home, he will never lose. If he has to break your leg to keep you from winning, he will do it.
If he has to blow up the world and insult or grope every head of state on the planet to show us who’s boss, he will do it — and then break our legs just to make sure we get the message.
George W Bush is political campaign terrorist — and all of us are his victims.
So what channel do I find the MSNBC bitches on complaining 24/7 about this?
Daniel Ellsberg, speaking on air to GCN radio host Jack Blood, stated his concerns that criminal elements of the US government were psychologically capable to have carried out 9/11. He warned that within days after a US military strike on Iran that Bush’s handlers would probably stage some type of terror attack in the West to legitimize the new war.
http://www.infowars.com/articl.....htm#public
Red Line Blues
I don’t think he’ll do anything when he retires but clear brush and give speeches before handpicked adoring Republican audiences. I mean, what else will he be able to do? He doesn’t have any policy insights; he won’t make the effort to read a canned speech on a serious topic like he does now. He’ll probably mainly do smug self-righteousness and vicious right-wing “humor,” and who else will want to hear that? Heck, I bet even ghostwritten books will be too much effort.
The only disappointment will be that, unlike almost anyone else in the world, he won’t care that he can’t travel and can’t actually associate with real people. Permanent vacation on the “ranch,” from the real world and any heavy intellectual lifting, will probably be his idea of paradise.
Eli —
could be too many of the drugs he was supposed to be on, or not enough of the drugs he used to be on and kept but didn’t take when prescribed, or too few of the new drugs he’s been prescribed and just started, or too many of the last drugs he’s been saving but was supposed to stop a while ago….
Addicts recognize the many variables in play here.
NYTimes said she was smiling; it looks more like a grimace to me — and W looks like he’s in a trance: even the walking dead show more vitality than he does in this sequence.
I’m hoping that the next Administration is so reality-based that W can replace Jon Stewart as the host of The Daily Show, for balance…..
Teddy - I think refusing to take meds would be the most in character.
Probably feels they would sap his resolve, and goddammit, no snooty Ivy-League doctor’s gonna tell him what to do!
(No, that’s not ironic at all, why do you ask?)
Eli at 12: I kept trying to think of what movies were in previews that he might have gotten hold of. I mean, he’s got that cool movie theater in the basement of the White House, and the DVD player on Air Force One just isn’t the same.
I’d never think someone with a name like Eli has a connection to the ivy leagues.
Just my two sense.
Jane -
“it absolutely serves his purposes to do so.”
Excactly. It’s his way of showing that he’s the top dog and you have to submit to his behavior, no matter how insulting and outrageous. Since most are too polite - and/or shocked - to get up and punch him, which is what he deserves, it reinforces the humilition and his dominance. Same thing with the nicknames. It’s a behavior not untypical of spoiled, mean spirited rich kids who like to let everyone know thy can lord it over you because their daddy can buy and sell your daddy.
I figure he must have found all the hidden likker and pills in Moscow and had to head home for where he knew his backup supply is.
…just sayin’….
I’d never think someone with a name like Eli has a connection to the ivy leagues.
Heh. I was actually thinking more of the irony of Mr. Skull & Bones Yale Legacy accusing *anyone* of being an elitist.
It’s his way of showing that he’s the top dog and you have to submit to his behavior, no matter how insulting and outrageous.
You mean like sending the White House Chief Of Staff to fetch a cheeseburger?
Thanks Subway for putting the Redline Blues link above. To those that haven’t heard the song, it is a haunting tribute to those lost the morning of 9/11.
Eli-
yeah, but not takin’ ‘em and then bulking up a double dose has some advantages he might already be acquainted with.
…. just saying’…..
Sydney Morning Herald says “After appearing momentarily stunned, Merkel, the only female head of state at the G8, throws her arms up and shrugs her shoulders in protest.”
http://blogs.smh.com.au/newsbl.....05267.html
yeah, but not takin’ ‘em and then bulking up a double dose has some advantages he might already be acquainted with.
I could buy that. In any case, giving the Chancellor of Germany a sexual-harassment backrub in the middle of a G-8 (Grope of Eight?) summit is simply not something any head of state in their right mind would ever even dream of doing.
I’m sorry I’m having touble understanding why is everybody whining about 2009.
Call me stupid…
Call me nuts but…
Let’s git this fukin’ asshole right now!
We are the people and we can do it.
Do what you ask…why, impeach his dumb ass
The simplest explanation for the groping is that he is a sexist jerk and a bully.
Trex - you used one of my all time favorite words! “squick” is such a perfect term for that experience! and too rarely used well!
Eli - I read somewhere (here? somewhere) that a WH calendar keeper said W had nothing on his calendar that night … he was just pretending he actually has things he does.
I think it looks like she just got the kooties. The NYT said that’s a smile, huh? His face in reaction to her obvious revulsion looks like “I guess she must be one of thsse lebanese, yeah, one of those women in comfortable shoes…”
50 Ways To Dunp The Dubya
He had to rush home to, you know, write the veto.
Gotta question for Post Political Editor John Harris at 11am tomorrow? Questions accepted now. Flattery and politeness bonuses!!
http://discuss.washingtonpost......itics4.htm
AU Professor Joseph Campbell chatz on journalistic ethics at 11a eastern
http://discuss.washingtonpost......tyle16.htm
Dana Priest chatz at 12:30 eastern:
http://discuss.washingtonpost......priest.htm
Heh. I was actually thinking more of the irony of Mr. Skull & Bones Yale Legacy accusing *anyone* of being an elitist.
Eli is of course an EliTist.
The simplest explanation for the groping is that he is a sexist jerk and a bully.
That explains the impulse, but I’m not sure it explains the stunning lack of awareness needed to actually give in to it.
GrandmaJ
As always, it’s nice to see my Deaniac friend from back in the day…
Namaste.
Eli - I read somewhere (here? somewhere) that a WH calendar keeper said W had nothing on his calendar that night … he was just pretending he actually has things he does.
So, so sad. He’s like one of those people who walks around with an empty cellphone, pretending to have a conversation.
Given W’s track record abroad, I’m really just as happy he came home to, y’know, write out the v.e.t.o.
(”Can I go to the pig farm now, Pickles?”)
I suspect that GWB has a problem with taking oaths, and especially those that involve the Bible, e.g.,
– he’s repeatedly violated his oath of office to uphold the constitution and to protect the nation from enemies both foreign and domestic
– he’s now violating his marital oath by groping a married woman who isn’t his spouse
The list of oaths that George W. has broken is long and distinguished, and one can only wonder why his so-called “christian” followers ignore all this most-un-Christian behavior.
Heckuva job, Barbara Bushmom
Redshift, I wonder if he’s taking some meds that he’d rather no one know about. Or needs them.
Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Nicholas Burns was on Charlie Rose. Be afraid, very afraid. This guy is beyond clueless. Hezbollah is responsible for the destruction in Lebanon which most have come as a real surporise to the Israeli Air Force. Burns has this idea that Lebanon may have to be destroyed to save it. BTW Hezbollah has lost support throughout the Arab world which must come as an equally great surprise to the Arab world. Also Israel’s right to protect itself means it can attack anyone anytime for any reason. Iran, Syria, and Hezbollah could fix this right now but we aren’t going to talk to any of them. They just know what they need to do somehow. Hint: it’s whatever Israel wants. Rice will be going to the Middle East –when the time is right which seems to mean after the cinders have cooled.
Shorter version: Our government has no plan for and no understanding of the situation so don’t expect squat from them.
Hi TeddySF, was the question from San Francisco, CA your question to Froomkin today?
Redshift, I wonder if he’s taking some meds that he’d rather no one know about. Or needs them.
…And we’re back to the Presidential Stool Collection Detail, to prevent foreign governments from gleaning valuable intelligence from Dubya’s poop (certainly more intelligence than would ever emanate from his other end).
Karl Rove said that hooking up with G Dubya was a once in a lifetime opportunity for a political hack such as himself.
May the brain and brainstem decouple soon, and both of them retired to the old war criminals home in the Hague . . .
Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Nicholas Burns was on Charlie Rose. Be afraid, very afraid. This guy is beyond clueless.
Wasn’t this the guy who was on, like, every single talking head show one or two Sundays ago?
I totally agree with A.Citizen #32. Why let this Idiot Child screw up for over two more years? He has to be tried, now.
I get the sense from listening to foreign envoys talk on news shows about Rice that when they say, “She will be very welcomed and is most respected by the Prime Minister of…” whatever Middle Eastern country, that they mean exactly the opposite.
Forget the “love attack” (oh those Bild headline artists) on Angie. (I still laff when I think of their “We Are Pope.”) The junta has much, much more ass-raping of us all in store. They’ve barely begun.
Trex - you used one of my all time favorite words! “squick” is such a perfect term for that experience! and too rarely used well!
I have been waiting for an opportunity to use it.
Ok I’m an EliTist too, and sometimes I play a Titleist, but at least my sense of entitlement does not lead me to become Der Gropenfuhrer.
Did Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Nicholas Burns have to approve the groping of a foreign head of state, or was Georgie just acting on his own like when he told Cheney to tell Scooter Libby to out Valerie Wilson?
It’s been a long, troubled road from DFA to FDL. But great people are always great. And someone mentioned Kimmy Cash too tonight.
As far as on topic, this idiot-in-chief is a disturbed man. End of my opinion.
Our government has no plan for and no understanding of the situation so don’t expect squat from them.
Beirut, meet New Orleans.
Here’s a link detailing other inappropriate antics while in Germany.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/.....sboar.html
OfT, wow just watched the clip of Jane and Ned, prior thread. Ned’s got it. Awesome clip.
And citizen 32 and jay 51 - the hell yes. As I’ve said elsewhere, this creature must be removed from office. Say it a hundred times tomorrow everywhere you go. Let’s get it started people. How much is enough?
Hugh @46
Actually it’s interesting that Bush has “given” Israel 1 week of bombing, and yet it’s taking about 1 week to get Americans out of Lebanon.
Color me skeptical, but I’m finding it hard to see this as a coincidence. If Israel were going to be forcefully reined in after a week of mayhem, why even bother with evacuations? I’m thinking things in and immediately around Beirut will be heating up over the weekend, rather than calming down.
The eight hours thing seems odd. Moscow is only about 400 miles from St. Petersburg; it shouldn’t take Putin nearly that long to get there unless he’s driving. Probably Bush just misunderstood whatever Putin actually said; maybe he was saying he’d be back in Moscow eight hours after the conversation.
Jane used the right word, the right label: boundary.
Every single damned thing with Dubya is about boundaries and boundary issues. TRex has obviously had a run-in with somebody who has boundary issues. The entire Democratic Party has been suffering from abuse by a minority faction with boundary issues. Bush doesn’t know where he stops and we begin; we don’t seem to be able to firmly draw the line between him and us because he is enabled by a party and a base that are also abusive and are incapable of recognizing boundaries, either.
Constitution? A document outlining boundaries — and just a gawddamned piece of paper to the guy who has boundary issues.
Separation of Church and State? A specific boundary now highly permeable because Dubya thinks being a dictator is easier.
Separation of Powers? Ditto, no boundaries there as far as he can see between any of the branches of government; as far as Dubya’s concerned, the branches are all his and we’re wrong for thinking otherwise.
Locally we’ve joked amongst ourselves about “battered wife” syndrome, that the Dems appear to suffer from it. Dubya’s behavior at the G8 makes it clear that the entire globe is now his “battered wife”. The incredible magnitude of this one person’s impact on the rest of the world makes it much harder to tackle the cognitive dissonance that holds us in thrall; I wish I knew how to get more so-called conservatives to snap out of this state.
Heard reported tonight that those American drone planes are playing all over Lebanon now. They are looking for anything moving to hit so they can say they killed so-in-so terrorists.
So, I guess those planes were shipped over from Iraq. How convenient.
Drugs may be a plausable explination but they are not an acceptable excuse for such rude behavior. These poor manners have been around a long time. I wonder how the Merkle photos are playing in Germany? If they are playing at all.
Hi everyone. Is the clip from Jane’s blogosphere entry posted anywhere else? I get only a big blank spot where (I assume) the YouTube clip should be.
I’m jealous that others get to see Jane speak!
obligatory info: running OSX 10.4.7 Intel Core Duo/Safari 2.0.4(419.3)
Thanks for any help in viewing.
Here’s a link detailing other inappropriate antics while in Germany.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/.....sboar.html
Heh.
Rice, who once trained to be a concert pianist, admired an enormous 165-year-old organ with pipes that filled one end of the sanctuary.
Bush noticed, and saw an opening, too. He turned to the tour guide, Pastor Hans Peter Neumann.
“This is Condoleezza Rice,” he said. “She wants to play the organ.”
No comment, really, but this was too good to be ignored.
Jacqrat, YouTube and Safari are not compatible. Try Firefox.
Tony Blair should have to spend eternity being stuck witnessing and delivering refreshments to Chimpy’s gay sex parties.
Really good observation TRex, and one I haven’t seen elsewhere, that the like-I-give-a-shit little prick couldn’t be bothered to even fucking LOOK at the poodle.
Trex … in fact, I think “squicked” describes my reaction to life under W rather well.
and Hugh - I think that in fact they know exactly what they are doing … enabling Israel to go after Hizbollah and Gaza, stoking up the Iran and Syria talk, reinforcing the ME as a murderous region so why worry about *6,000* Iraqi’s killed in just the last 2 months, and on and on … the pretense of inaction works rather well for them.
This won’t change anything, but it certainly made me feel a lot better:
http://www.planetdan.net/pics/misc/georgie.htm
Tip: If he gets stuck, you can drag him with your cursor.
Trex - I view everything else YouTube just fine. Why would this one clip not show up ? : (
Really good observation TRex, and one I haven’t seen elsewhere, that the like-I-give-a-shit little prick couldn’t be bothered to even fucking LOOK at the poodle.
He was behaving like a petulant 13-year-old. If he was my kid, he’d have spent the rest of that dinner sitting in the car without the keys.
I thought the “how long a flight?” conversation was with Hu (Mr G9!), not Putin, thus the reference to how big Russia was…. oh, and China, in case you have to fly over your own country too, which is also big.
Not that this matters, ignorance is ignorance.
Can we try Barbara Bush The Elder for child endangerment? (of us!)
Mbrain, wish it was me, great question asked of The Froom, but mine are more pointed and frivolous than that one!
I am leaning to the “be afraid,be very,very afraid”camp.These people want war.War gives them the excuse to break all the rules and do what they goddamn well want to.They got nukes,and the codes,and know they are faceing a disaster in november.I am pretty sure they give not one jolly goddamn if they blow hell out of the whole world,cause that would let them seize complete power and do what they really want…which is to cut and gut anything remotely for the little guy,and give the rich the remainder of the usa they dont already own…these men are evil,and wicked beyond words,the true masters of war that dylan sang of
I am starting to think that they will destroy the usa with their efforts to promote their failed conservitive policys
Sharkbabe says
July 19th, 2006 at 9:59 pm
Tony Blair should have to spend eternity being stuck witnessing and delivering refreshments to Chimpy’s gay sex parties.
Really good observation TRex, and one I haven’t seen elsewhere, that the like-I-give-a-shit little prick couldn’t be bothered to even fucking LOOK at the poodle.
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Yuck. You know, for once I’m glad my boyfriend is out of town, because that just killed my sex drive for the night.
snuffy speaks for me
Yuck. You know, for once I’m glad my boyfriend is out of town, because that just killed my sex drive for the night.
Sometimes it seems like everybody in the world has a boyfriend but me.
snuffy says
July 19th, 2006 at 10:03 pm
I am leaning to the “be afraid,be very,very afraid”camp.These people want war.War gives them the excuse to break all the rules and do what they goddamn well want to.They got nukes,and the codes,and know they are faceing a disaster in november.I am pretty sure they give not one jolly goddamn if they blow hell out of the whole world,cause that would let them seize complete power and do what they really want…which is to cut and gut anything remotely for the little guy,and give the rich the remainder of the usa they dont already own…these men are evil,and wicked beyond words,the true masters of war that dylan sang of
I am starting to think that they will destroy the usa with their efforts to promote their failed conservitive policys
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We’re going to bomb the hell out of Iran before the election. Karl Rove knows running as a “war president” works, but they’ve gotten all they can get out of Iraq and Af-what’s-its-name. The only question in my mind is whether or not we’re going to bother with Syria.
Rayne@64
My wife was abused in her previous marriage to the point of permanent disability, and I’ve said very early in the Dean campaign that Bush exhibits the classic pathology of an abusive husband. Takes your money, takes your freedom, alienates you from your friends and inflicts violence as a method of control.
It’s why I got sick in the gut when they bragged that we haven’t been attacked since 9/11. Lady liberty with the black eye and him saying it’s her fault she got hurt. She made him do it. These people hate your freedom so let me hold on to it and protect you…
It’s all too phucking familiar.
Goper’s Lament
TRex says
July 19th, 2006 at 10:07 pm
Yuck. You know, for once I’m glad my boyfriend is out of town, because that just killed my sex drive for the night.
Sometimes it seems like everybody in the world has a boyfriend but me.
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It took me ten years to find this one, but it was well worth the wait.
Finally saw the clip - went through the “Recent Posts” link on the left sidebar and the clip came right up… go figure.
It is really delightful to see Jane so happy!
Trex … no bf here either … or gf for that matter … maybe we should look for them on Ebay? after all, Jane found a perfect dress …
TRex 69:
Jacqrat, YouTube and Safari are not compatible. Try Firefox.
I use Safari to watch YouTube stuff all the time. iMac (Non Intel) OS 10.4.7.
hopefully, China and Russia will get in Shrub’s face and the pressure will be great enough to stop the neos from starting with Iran…
as much as I hate the destruction going on in Lebanon and Israel, I don’t think Israel is all that enthused about mixing it up with Syria (they are trying to be careful not to drop any bombs on Syria’s side of the border) and I’m pretty sure Iran is not currently on their list…
hopefully….
neurophius, Burns would no doubt say that Bush knew that Merkel really wanted him to do that because in the sane part of the universe it was obvious she didn’t.
kurt, the Israelis have been bombing for a week. They probably have at least another week before Rice shows up and does anything. The Israelis originally talked about a bombing campaign lasting two to three weeks so some kind of suspension or slowing down will occur sometime in or around the third week. This will not be predicated on anything that Rice does or is likely to do but rather on the likelihood that there won’t be anymore targets worth hitting in Lebanon and/or the Israelis will be running short on bombs.
One thing: Bush behaves like this EVERY TIME he goes before the public, but the press hides it.
Read Dowd’s column today to find out about the moronic pranks Bush played in 2000 which we never heard about.
This was not an aberation—this was Bush on his BEST BEHAVIOR!
It took me ten years to find this one, but it was well worth the wait.
congrats to you and yours both, Frank.
and waaambulance please, me alone at present too
ifthethunder @55
Der Gropenfuhrer. Kudos for that construction, it bears repeating on headlines all over this pitiful country.
al-Scooter @58
your “Beirut, meet New Orleans” phrase also should be on headlines everywhere. I’ll just tell it to my Republican friends to endear myself to them even more. And in passing it’s too tempting to mention we have a President who physically molested the chancellor of the most powerful country in the EU. In front of cameras.
On one of folly’s other current fronts, Israel’s staggeringly violent ineptitude has staunch religious Republicans still willing to rub a couple brain cells together pretty corn-flicted. This is partially because the Vatican condemned the Lebanon attacks, and because Israel has generally outlived its strategic usefulness; connect this with vague stirrings of Christian anti-Semitism and balance it off against rapturist musings. You can almost see them contort and spasm in front of you while changing the subject. Yet one by one, almost all my Republican friends have come up to me and started admitting their reservations and regrets over the Bush Administration. Not saying, “You were right when you told me I would rue the day, et cetera,” or even giving my cranky outspoken prognostications the credit they richly deserve, of course, but nonetheless. It’s prolly their way of apology. Bush has even the most God-fearing, stem-cell hating right-to-lifers scratching their heads with forks. Next may come the sackcloth and ashes.
marky says
July 19th, 2006 at 10:15 pm
One thing: Bush behaves like this EVERY TIME he goes before the public, but the press hides it.
Read Dowd’s column today to find out about the moronic pranks Bush played in 2000 which we never heard about.
This was not an aberation—this was Bush on his BEST BEHAVIOR!
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I agree. History is not going to be kind to the press when the chapter on W is written.
Sharkbabe says
July 19th, 2006 at 10:17 pm
It took me ten years to find this one, but it was well worth the wait.
congrats to you and yours both, Frank.
and waaambulance please, me alone at present too
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Click on the link I posted at 72. Trust me, it’ll make you feel MUCH better.
Can we get a link to that MoDo piece?
and waaambulance please, me alone at present too
Yeah, but you’re young and cute and in a band, Sharkbabe. I predict you’ll have a new lovaaaah before Labor Day.
siun, I think they believe their rhetoric but I’ve been trying to push the philosophical connection between American neocons and the Israeli right. They think military force is the solution to everything. That stew seems to be missing something. Bomb it. Having trouble with your neighbors? Bomb them. They’ll thank you for it in the end. Want to make friends and influence people? Bombs are the answer. They’re the vi*gra of neocons.
I hope the next time Bush does that to a woman, she charges him with battery.
Click on the link I posted at 72. Trust me, it’ll make you feel MUCH better.
That is good, Frank, but it would be so much better if tiny drops of blood would spray everywhere when he collides with things.
I hope the next time Bush does that to a woman, she charges him with battery.
Screw that. I hope she hooks his nuts up to a car battery.
But, TRex, you’re young and cute and have a Late Nite!
Totally OT, but have any of you noticed how much these pudgy radical Islamic clerics look like right wing bloggers?
From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3503931.stm
So let’s just roll that into the alcohol abuse,
http://www.drug-rehabs.com/cocaine-effects.htm
And we add the well-discussed psychological challenges of family-of-origin, and throw in what has been observed as clear use of meds during this presidency…
What a fucking mess.
For those of us locked out by the Times subscription wall, Steve has it up:
http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/
I just watched that clip on OS X 10.4.7 with Safari 2.0.4. I’m also running on a PowerPC (PowerBook). It could be a glitch on YouTube’s end (their servers hiccup sometimes) or a freak bug with Flash and Intel Macs, or something like that.
As for Bush on drugs: I’d point to the picture on DailyKos of him standing by an open beer looking poleaxed, but DK is down. So instead, I give you Our Man in Nirvana. Like father, like son?
Hugh - did you see the article on Information Clearing House about the hawks revival:
http://www.informationclearing.....e14061.htm
and I’m off to try and sleep … g’nite FDL!
I’m not far behind you, Siun. Ever since temps have been soaring to nearly 100 degrees here every day, all I want to do when I get home is crank the air, grab a book and curl up in bed with Juan Carlos the Wonder Kitty until we both get sleepy and conk out.
Actually, that sounds reeeeeal good about now.
James Robinson 102
I just watched that clip on OS X 10.4.7 with Safari 2.0.4. I’m also running on a PowerPC (PowerBook). It could be a glitch on YouTube’s end (their servers hiccup sometimes) or a freak bug with Flash and Intel Macs, or something like that.
My experience exactly, haven’t tried one of the Intel Macs, may do so tomorrow. But my iMac G5 configured like your Powerbook, YouTube plays its butt off.
Trex hits his stride. what post-vacation lull?
He was born with a silver foot in his mouth…
(…on third base, and thought he got a free Triple-Sec.)
Hey, TRex, be happy you got the A/C, everyone I talked to today complained about how HOT it was in EssEff last night, nobody slept well, and that NEVER happens in San Francisco.
Mebbe it’s earthquake weather?
Trex … have book, 2 kitties and a rather large pitbull occupying my bed … maybe that’s my problem … no effing room for a bf!
Good night dear diva blogger Trex … and the tie looks lovely!
I really believe if Bush lost his status, prestige, wealth, all the trappings, he would disintegrate into something we’d never recognize as human. There’s no there there. He has nothing, no core anything that would help him cope with adversity. *poof*
say… if we send a boxful of frozen embryos to Lebanon, you ‘pose Bush might hurry and send Condi in to help save their lives?
you know, the morality and all…
Mebbe it’s earthquake weather?
Lord, I hope not.
Siun, the pitbull and the kitties get along? Interesting.
TSF - Mebbe it’s earthquake weather?
shudder the thought. people scoff, but there does seem to be such a (coincidental) thing.
marky #88: I guess the Bush can’t maintain anymore and goes batshit in public. Media can’t hid it anymore. That’s scary. The cognitive dissonence inside that guy’s head must be deafening. Even he must be aware that things aren’t going as planned, in some vague way he doesn’t understand. Or maybe he thinks the whole world is schemeing against him and falsifying the true reality. Whatever, it’s not good to see the Prez go all Mad Czar in St Petersbueg. Wonder what he’ll act like back here. If its the same, then we better watch out.
James Robinson @102,
In the book “American Hero,” on which the movie “Wag the Dog” was based, the author constructs a comical scene on Air Force One in which George Herbert Walker Bush and James Baker talk about dropping what they refer to as “the blue bomb.” Halcion. In the book, both men freely discussed their reliance on the drug as a prophylactic against their anxieties.
punaise — congrats on the rappin’
west coste rulz
Frank Probst, in my business I work with customers in the construction trades, in carpet cleaning, pharma, in food service, police, and the like—clasic conservatives. They, to a person, are fed up with the mess in Iraq and can’t figure out what the hell we are doing rattling sabres in Iran. They are facing some serious personal and business shit here in this country and want us to get the hell out. They’ve got kids and grandkids and nephews and co-workers (and in the case of the cops, they are reserve Marines with an Iraq tour under their belt already.)
I think if Karl blows up Iran and Syria and advances ground troups anywhere else, he’ll see Bush’s numbers drop close to single digits. You just can’t fool the people all of the time, and there’s just no story of threat from Iran that washes, and it’s clear that the Iraq experience has screwed us all.
Meanwhile, one of my suppliers is sending tons of ice, like 80 pallets on many days, to Ft. Irwin where back-to-back training is going on. Maybe to replace Iraq tours, but damn, they haven’t ever seen this level of activity. Bases out there are hiring pretty much anyone that walks in off the street. Everyone figures it’s Iran, and most everyone out there are (is?) quietly pissed off about it.
Trex 99
“Totally OT, but have any of you noticed how much these pudgy radical Islamic clerics look like right wing bloggers?”
It’s the paste. Does funny things to you.
I think punaise’ rap was east coast. Did it say it was west cost?
marksb, I have thought for a few years now that Bush is being treated for something fairly major. I think his exercise periods and naps and early bedtime are not just indulgences—I think he really has to have them.
Halcion. In the book, both men freely discussed their reliance on the drug as a prophylactic against their anxieties.
Didn’t they take that off the market because it was making people go psychotic?
recycling an earlier post, an SF Chronicle article about Cowboy George
note the Pox News commentatress’ remarks:
“It’s the paste. Does funny things to you.”
A minute on the lips
a lifetime on the hips…
Punaise - You bastard. I’ll have my revenge some day.
wesggpc’s votinglinks
I think punaise’ rap was east coast. Did it say it was west coast?
well I’m here in the heart of hyphie-land (Berkeley/Oakland), but I’m no connoisseur, so who knows? a middle aged paste-y white guy can only do so much, yaknowha’amsayin’?
If Bush does want to hit Iran or Syria, or anything, he can’t go to Congress for it -they’ll run away like it’s the plague. So, he has sweep under his Deciderating powers under GWOT, or unitary executive, or something his lawyer, excuse me, the AG scribbles out on a napkin. That would make it worse for the GOP come election.
Alright, kids. It really is bedtime here. Juan Carlos is calling me from the other end of the house.
Apparently, my name in Siamese is pronounced, “SKWAAAAWK!!”
EPU - I’m a marked man…..how insolent of me. can I make it up to you somehow?
I don’t think Bush cares about any elections after 2006… if it’s not “his” Congress, makes no never mind to him…
I’m guessing he cares very little about this one coming up - he’s bored with his job…
puaise #124: I’m in SF Bay too, and hyphed out tonight. But before I go, all I gotta a say is, you are the Chuck D of this here blog, and even if you did west coast it, that’s OK, I can west coast it once in awhile.
Sure. Lose. ;-)
we claim the punaise. west coste he be.
#128: if that was directed at me, please understand that I am freaking unhealthily fixated on the Dems finally making some progress on elections. Bush is just a figure head, unless Dems can win elections then there will be another Bush in 09. They already have one picked out -Allen. Yikes, he might be worse that Bush, if you can imagine that.
Sorry (and slightly envious) about the heat and wish I could send you some of our cool air. Frosts every morning, which in a flimsy house without heating, makes it cold (6 degrees C) inside. I’m typing now in my winter coat with icy fingers.
In my class this afternoon, we discussed customs and manners. The English language students are from Japan, China, Thailand, Tahiti, and Saudi Arabia. They are speechless about our “president” this week, and it isn’t due to limited English skills. I keep assuring them that many Americans don’t support him. “Then why don’t they change leaders?” is the question on the table.
And there the question sits, on the table for all of us.
east coast vs. west coast: OK, I was kidding. I don’t want to make anymore trouble than I have. West coast is OK. Punaise can west coast if he wants to.
Jacqrat, YouTube and Safari are not compatible. Try Firefox.
not true
132 - I’m just thinking Bush isn’t much invested in any of this any more… might be good, might be bad for us… but I can’t imagine any more years of Republican rule…
Everyone is fed up….well, just about everyone…
Jacqrat, YouTube and Safari are not compatible. Try Firefox.
not true
For many thins, Safari does reall well. For others, not so much. I can’t use Safari to post on Blogger, for example.
Firefox does everything pretty well, and seems to have no limitatins on content and displaying that I know of.
Of course, YMMV.
NZ - surely we can spare you 30 or 40 extra degrees! cold is cold, but this heat is a dangerous killer… frankly, nothing enviable about it…
wesggpc’s votinglinks says
July 19th, 2006 at 10:55 pm
If Bush does want to hit Iran or Syria, or anything, he can’t go to Congress for it -they’ll run away like it’s the plague. So, he has sweep under his Deciderating powers under GWOT, or unitary executive, or something his lawyer, excuse me, the AG scribbles out on a napkin. That would make it worse for the GOP come election.
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Just spouting off the top of my head, I’d say that Karl could do it something like this:
1. Claim we have reliable intelligence that Iran will have a nuclear bomb within a year.
2. Claim that we know of a plot to smuggle the bomb into the US or (more likely) into Iraq. (I’d go with the Green Zone.)
3. Argue that Congress’s authorization to use military force entitles him to do whatever he wants.
4. Bombs away!
Frankly, there’s no way the Republican Congress can fight him on this. What’re they going to do? Criticize bogus intelligence? Nope, then they’d have to admit we were duped into Iraq. Argue against the use of force? Nope, that’d make them sound like Democrats. Claim that maybe we should think about the consequences of what we’re doing before we go charging into another country? Nope, that gets them back to Iraq again.
Will it hurt the GOP in November? I honestly don’t know. I still haven’t figured out how they won the last two elections.
Re Me @ 137,
My spelling is sad, really sad. I apologize.
wesgpc 129 - LOL, I wouldn’t know the first thing about east v. west coast rap. punaise jr. is more west coast, so I guess that’s an influence. People Under the Stairs, Ugly Ducklings, Pharcyde, Mac Dre, etc.
#133: actually, I was appalled too. I’ve been so busy I wasn’t paying close attention and didn’t realize how bad it was. For instance, I thought the pig talk was when reporters were bugging him at the dinner. But then I read it was at a press conference. OH MY GOD! I thought that, just like they do in those horror movie trailers.
Tell your students that the US Decideratordents come in four year stretches after each election, and all they can do is to beseech us to impeach. Tell them to write letters to the Dems and aske them to do something about it.
punaise 141:
FWIW, I have worked with many west coast rappers, including Dr. Dre, and have found them to largely be a really nice bunch of guys.
I have a neurological condition and I can tell you right away– his speech is definitely reflective of a neurological problem. (I also suspect his clumsiness on the bicycle comes from that.) I don’t mean he has MS, but I think the years of substance abuse caused neurological damage which is showing up now in his speech. When I’m having a relapse, I sound like him… except smarter. :) The slurring, the hunt for simple words, the repetition of phrases… really. There’s brain damage going on.
Yes I’m with Teddy, we’re claiming Punaise for west coast.
Yo Jane,
Late on the East Coast, anything shaking tonight?
#136: three more years of Bush. What about three more years of Bush and then four more year of Allen? Now that would be very trick ganster rap for you, and we would all be murked. OK, I’m going now. I’ll try to sleep off reality tonight. Tomorrow I will wake up to headlines that say BushCo all suddenly realize it has just been a big boo-boo and they’re really sorry. They will give their fortunes to charity to try to make up for it and spend the rest of their lives in solitary contemplation. Let’s all… whatever they did in Peter Pan.. the tinkerbell stuff. Yeah, let’s try that.
TRex >”…Screw that. I hope she hooks his nuts up to a car battery.”
*Sigh*
beat me to it you did
NZ expat >”…“Then why don’t they change leaders?”…”
Sure makes me think long and hard about the positive side of a parliamentary form of government I`ll tell you
“A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt…” - Thomas Jefferson
“wes” coast!
punaise 149
“wes kos”
Hi Jane!
Not to make you feel any worse, but the Preznit does not need Congressional approval to send troops anywhere, and the War Power’s Act only requires that he get Congressional approval within 60 days.
The SC has never ruled on Congress’ Article 1 Declaration of War powers vs. the Executive’s Article 2 “police powers,” and you probably could also expect the Executive to claim that its control of foriegn policy gives the Preznit the authority either idendepently or in conjunction with the right to conduct police actions.
Plenty of people think it is unconstitutional for the Preznit to unilaterally go to war, but again, the SC has never ruled on it, and Congress seems to have in fact, at a minimum, acquiesced to it; 60 days is a long time.
I use Firefox, and only occasionally have funky behavior from sites. Usually sites that were only designed for the hated IE. Only site I’ve had real trouble with is Young Turks…crashes Firefox everytime I try to go there. I can live with it though in exchange for my beloved Adblock plugin hehe.
TRex,
Not sure if Halcion was ever taken off the prescription market here, but will check. It was taken off in the EU, but I believe it is still administered to schizophrenics and manics in asylums, at least it was as of 10 years ago. It is a powerful depressant. May need some myself if this shit gets any worse. Nighty-night, and my best to Juan Cole.
SteveAudio 150 - better yet….
…have been thinking about this buffoon all day and how some folks in this country INSISTED he be the president knowing full well the mess he made with the Texas state budget…but as Randi Rhodes said recently: americans don’t know stem cells from stemware.
It follows they wouldn’t know shit from shinola either…they call Clinton “Bubba” but dear old Bill looks positively REGAL next to bush…
Though the latest MoDo column isn’t at this site yet, it’s a nice place to find those “beyond the curtain” NYT punditry articles.
I can attest to the fact that YouTube and Safari are compatible (at least now they are for me). Last week, after I had problems viewing YouTube, thanks to the on-line ministrations of Jacqrat and SteveAudio and other kind techno-literate souls on FDL, I went back and upgraded Adobe and Quicktime and, voila, YouTube connected with my iMac once again.
Thank you all for your sharing your knowledge with the Luddites like me. Tonight, when I checked in, I was worried too, though, when I saw white space where the YouTube picture should have been. Rather than freaking out, I clicked off, wrote some e-mails, and then clicked back on FDL - and the YouTube of Jane and Ned magically appeared and all was right with the world again.
At least, the image was back, even though our world is still ruled by idiots like El Stupido Presidente.
wes kos livid rams of the blogos-fear
I’m not sure I agree with Randi - I can’t think of a single soul who doesn’t have a basic comprehension about stem cells and thinks Boosh is out of his mind (and that includes some Super Republicans)
stem the tied
radlib1 158
Cool!
punaise 159
That’s classic. Copyright it, now!
SteveAudio 163- LOL, joint venture!
Sure, laugh now, Punaise.
At 138 Old Coastie says:NZ - surely we can spare you 30 or 40 extra degrees! cold is cold, but this heat is a dangerous killer… frankly, nothing enviable about it…
Well, from what I remember growing up without airconditioning in Kansas, the best thing about the heat was that we had no expectations of doing anything. Even my father laid on the wooden floor with a fan sweeping over him….and told us his wonderful stories.
But yes, heat can be a sneaky killer. Drink water folks, send money to Act Blue, and, for the time being, lie low. Heat rises.
what stem at - uhh - with Kansas?
Frank Probst >”…I still haven’t figured out how they won the last two elections.”
What makes you think they did ?
Note this
“There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things.” - Niccolo Machiavelli
punaise 166:
You are either the funniest person I know, or a serious drug user.
The two, of course, are not mutually exclusive . . .
I’m a long time lurker in a distant out of sync time zone. By the time I get home from work you’re all in bed. Today was an exception, and I am happy to be up with all of you. I want to thank Frank Probst at 72. It brought my blood pressure way down.
On another note, here where I live a new verb was coined when HWBush visited. It is to Bush suru or Do a Bush. It means, to throw up on the lap of the Emperor, which is, I would think the ultimate faux pas. It seems that Jr. has a stuck key in his brain that pushes him to go well beyond his father in this department. I can’t help thinking that there are a lot of little Voo Doo dolls at play in his actions and more power to them!
scooby dooby d’EPU
‘Night, all.
SteveAudio - not the latter, so by default….
keeponthinkingfree 169
The land of the rising sun, I assume?
On today’s Talk of the Nation on NPR, a caller expressed disgust over Bush’s groping of Merkel, but neither Neil Conen or Ken Rudin saw anything wrong with Bush’s behavior, and seemed truly surprised that anyone would.
But during that conversation, and sort of out of the blue, Rudin brought up Lieberman, saying he thought more people were upset over that kiss Bush gave Joe than anything he did in Germany.
Still clueless at NPR, but at least “The Kiss” isn’t going away.
welcome, keeponthinkingfree
Bush suru or Do a Bush
I think I’m turning japunaise.
punaise 172:
There you go then. Wittiest. Person. Ever.
Hello, fellow firedoggies. Been working too much of late and left myself out of the loop.
Punaise is now a champion rapper? Well, no surprise there. It was only a matter of time!
He and TeddySF may already have seen (or posted) this article from the SF paper. It looks like Dumbo’s harassment video is the proverbial shot heard ’round the world.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....rub20.html
punaise
What do your children think of your “unique” talent w/words ?
“In the future, we will all drive standing up. In the future, love will be taught on television and by listening to pop songs.” - Talking Heads
JWR - gawd, don’t get me started on Neil Conen (OK, Juan Williams isn’t a hard act to follow, but come on…)* Neil Ruden just seems to be as beltway CW as they come. He often gets the interesting facts but stops short of completing the narrative. I get more insight out of Mark Shields….
*Ray Suarez was a great TOTN host before he succumbed to “the man” at News Hour
EPU 176 - you really think so?
SteveAudio 177 - nahhh. just afflicted with something.
deCascadian - lot of “there he goes again” rolling of eyes
No. You are my nemesis now. And the hagiography that has already started….
jeepers, EPU…lok, here’s the secret for winning the next contest: bribe the judge(s). worked for me.
The rudeness has been around for a while.
Remember that Queen Elizabeth got her knickers in a bunch about W. and Laura showing their lack of manners when they stayed over in the Palace (2002 or thereabouts).
The Secret Service messed up the Palace internet and TV reception by jamming all the frequencies.
They also tore up a rose garden that was planted by the (late) Queen Mother in order to facilitate the helicopter landings. They tore up more of the gardens to make clear areas to keep this creepy prez safe.
He hasn’t been invited back to the Palace, has he?
So those who ask if he would be so rude in front of the Queen already have their answer.
I KNEW IT. :p
Is any vote in this country safe?
as Debra Harry sort of sang:
you’ve got to Diebold, stay pretty
Live fast, ‘cuz it won’t last
Still some people up and sweating? Can I get some advice from you clear thinking folks?
Our 15 year old son, a last gasp baby, is sitting here in New Zealand, dutifully pulling up his knee socks to his Kiwi school uniform and trudging off to school, but longing to return to the US. He misses his mates but the reality is that his education here is way below the standards he was meeting back in Kansas (though he wasn’t in public school there).
So, while I think it is worth sucking it up and sticking it out for character building, I’m sympathetic to his arguments about education. We try to supplement, but we are the ancient, elderly parents and he is 15 so he isn’t extremely eager to glean what he can from us.
But, I’m relieved to have him, a healthy young American male, far away from the Bush regime. And I don’t want to lose my residency here (we’re still in our two year trial period and need to put in our requisite days to earn permanent residency). The NZ govt has made many exceptions (due to us being over the exclusion age) in order to keep us here.
We need to make some decisions soon. One possibility would be for me (Mom) to return with him, while his father remains here and we visit back and forth.
I wish we could wait until after the Nov elections, but I wonder if even a Democratic majority will begin to act.
I know this is a bare bones description of the dilemma…but still, I’m curious to see what some of you might advise.
Then you will be ready to experience the sheer terror of…
Shakes On A Plane!
~In Smell-O-Rama~
;>)
Stay in NZ. Smack him in the head if necessary hehe ;)
Your son is safer in NZ.
NZ - with a not-far-from-potential-draft-age son, I can relate to that. Dual citizenship is our last-ditch fallback, but invoking that could be pretty drastic, for many reasons.
Your situation is murkier. Splitting the family certainly isn’t ideal. Don’t bank on any miracles with the Nov. elections. hmmmmm….
Stay in NZ! He will be happy about it later on in life.
punaise - I know what you mean about Neil Conen. He flipped out on the Human Rights Watch guy back when the “American gulag” stuff came up. I thought he was gonna pop. Not familiar with Suarez, though. I was mainly a Pacifica listener during his stint at NPR.
Stay in NZ. You don’t really want to be away from your hubby, do you? Your son will be better off there, for now.
15 year olds are not supposed to be happy. Greener grass and all..
Stay. Stay in NZ. Breathe fresh air.
Come back in 5 years.
Enjoy the world. While there still is one.
Punaise and EPU and all,
It’s an honor to meet you. Wish I could match wits with you but I’m out of my league here. Japunaise sounds like some kind of illness and I think I’ve got it. You’re all treasures!
Pun on one all,
It riles(sp?) them to believe that we perceive the webs they weave and keeponthinkingfree.
I posted about this a couple of weeks ago, but our Seattle NPR affiliate (KUOW) cancelled broadcast of TOTN about three years ago, and plays To The Point, with Warren Olney, in it’s place. The reason: so many people complained about that prig, Neil Conen, that they had to make a change to keep the listenership.
keep on keepin’ on, thinkingfree…
thinkingfree, Where in Nippon are you?
Lord EPU
who you
talkin’ to?
thought punaise would nippon that.)
JWR 193 - Suarez as TOTN host was erudite, well-read, knowledgeable, and a great moderator. Kind of like our local Michael Krasney (KQED-FM Forum in the a.m.) although the latter suffers from a bit of ivory-toweritis.
Neil (Neal?) Conen is just patently clueless, gumming the listeners to submission with his tin ear, not-quite-right, half-a-beat-late observations. Just my opinion - it’s easy to lob critical grenades from this remove.
Thanks for the comments, though I do sometimes think I took the easy way out by coming here.
The current regime seems so dark, so evil, so entrenched, that I wonder when it is time to just move on (I’m a first generation American, so the familial roots weren’t deep…but oh, the USA saved my father from a heap of trouble and a chance to live beyond Stalin’s reach and for that, there is deep and lasting gratitude).
On the other hand, what was I dreaming about when I woke my husband, screaming “The curse of God be upon you!” at 5:15 this morning? Certainly, I was confronting an evil that I couldn’t outrun and I clearly needed powers beyond myself to get the deed done.
(And, yes, my husband is nervous about going to bed tonight. What is the next installment? I say it is payback for waking up with him screaming “Incoming, incoming” as he throws himself over me. Three years in Vietnam does something to the dream life. It is more exciting here when we sleep than when we’re awake, according to the son of the household.)
sigh. on, are ya?
So your not in KS anymore?
Couldn’t resist.
I would stay. Truly doubt that the quality of NZ education is so bad that it would impact your son’s future chances of success in any sphere of life.
My older sister lives in Puerto Rico, and she laments the quality of even the best private schools there compared to the school her kids attended in NYC. But, she came around to thinking that there are positives to her kids growing up in Puerto Rico that perhaps make up for the “lesser” quality education.
Anyway, no one on this board can really answer the question for you.
And Eureka Springs is right - 15 year olds are supposed to suffer.
Oh, punaise….thank you…..
punaise 205:
Again, copyright it. Too funny!
shoephone - That prig, Neil Conen?? But, he sounds so reasonable. ;-) I get To The Point on another local affiliate, but the signal is really weak.
punaise - I’ll take your word on Saurez, if only because your description of Conen is spot on.
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BBC radio is going on about this being the first time in 23 years that U.S. Marines have set foot in Beirut. Also, sounds like fighting on the ground is intensifying. Condi may have wanted to let this play out for another week, but at this point, who’s gonna stop it? Her?
I would say they have a predisposition to suffer. Buy him a cd Smiths - Louder Than Bombs and some headphones.
Eureka Springs,
I’m in Maebashi in Gunma prefecture where the meibutsu or famous food is devils tongue. Do you know it?
KOTF
take no prig on ears
I tell my 17 yo daughter that her job is to be miserable. My job is to make sure she is.
I’ve been saying Bush has Attention Deficit Disorder since the 1999 debates. I’m ADD myself, and I certainly wouldn’t say it’s an automatic disqualification for “the Leader of the Free World” but Dubya’s preferred treatment methods — pretending he’s neurotypical, self-medicating with cocaine and/or alcohol, and attacking anyone who looks askance — have seriously compounded his problems. At this point, even Bar the Elder is wishing she’d let “the smart one” Jeb do his eight years in the Oval Office before “Momma’s Favorite” was anointed for primogency purposes. If things keep going bad at this rate, Dubya is due to have a screaming public crack-up well in advance of the November elections, and even the Base 29-Percenters will have Diebold issues.
The sad thing about this clip, though — it looks to me like Merkel is saying “Oh joy, not THIS cr*p again.” I know a lot of women say they’d have decked the creep automatically, but as a scientist working in a heavily male-dominated field, I got the immediate impression that Merkel has already met her share of the sort of sexist creeps who think they prove something about their glorious Alpha Manhood by “friendly” fondling of their female subordinates…
Condi may have wanted to let this play out for another week, but at this point, who’s gonna stop it? Her?
I’ve been avoiding pointing this out, perhaps b/c it seems a fairly obvious point - what makes anyone think TEAM LOSER can stop anything. It is, to me, more likely that the Israeli’s told TEAM LOSER they’re not going to stop for at least a week (maybe two or three), and rather than have their impotence exposed, TEAM LOSER then claimed that as its “policy.”
Have not been there. I like the northern parts of Honshu ( No. of Sendai) and The Island of Kyushu.
And goodnight, you’ve been a great audience…..really.
G’night, all.
Anne L
If things keep going bad at this rate, Dubya is due to have a screaming public crack-up well in advance of the November elections
The sooner the better. Draw Cheney out for all to see.
punaise @213-
The man is quick, I tell you. ;-)
later, SteveAudio
TEAM LOSER. (spread it around.)
shoephone - 221 - it would sound better if prig were plural.
A thunderstorm and it’s 85 degrees outside. Think It’s time to unplug. Good to hear from NZ and Nippon. Sleep well all.
punaise -
Well, Conen could also be considered a “priss”…
I’m not sure why Bush’s cringe inducing behavior should be at all surprising to anyone. I remember listening to him on NPR back in 1999 asking my wife, can you imagine how embarrassing it would be to have this guy meet other world leaders?
We had plenty of warning, despite the best efforts of our media to convince us otherwise. The root of all evil is no longer money (or the pursuit of money for you nitpickers), it is television.
TRex, if you happen to stroll through in the morning, picking up emtpties and emptying ash-trays, check out Mark Morford in the SF Chronicle:
“Bush Gropes, Planet Cringes
Knead a German chancellor, banter dumbly, reveal global ignorance. It’s Dubya abroad!”
It’s a companion piece to your Late Nite post. Jenny from the Blog pointed it out earlier today.
and with that, *plouf*
Goodnight all.
…well if you are looking for a Bush Bad Day, try August 11th…
spiderpaws
So glad you’re here! What’s Chimpy got 3 days after Lieberman becomes a ReThug?
http://apoeticjustice.blogspot.....ssons.html
…LESSONS
Morning All from Eastern Maine
Spidey, you’re such a tease–and just what’s in the stars for GWB on August 11? Couldn’t happen to a more deserving one.
And on a bright note, my nephew returned from Iraq last night for a two week leave. Sigh of relief.
OS
Old Sow
Good thoughts for your nephew and family!
Kinda hopin’ spidee comes back and expands on that statement… Star-gazing, as usual.
Good morning, all. Scrolling down to the reply box, I snagged my eye on some mighty interesting stuff, but with this “copy” to “paste,” I’ll just have to go back for all that.
At the front of my mind is last night’s update from the sister of missing friend S. It’s scary enough that I have to share it with you and seek your advice (only the names obscured):
Jeebus, huh?
I’m inclined to advise Sis that it’s time for the sheriff’s office to deal with this former county prosecutor — though awful images arise with that thought. The local rank-&-file LEOs are probably still mostly S’s fans, but there’s a new sheriff whom I know nothing about, and the wingnut Gooper who beat her in ‘04 (when S’s vote topped any other area Dem’s by a pile) is — well, a wingnut Gooper.
Any suggestions from FDL’s shrinks, LEOs, or otherwise-experienced-with-this-situation will be most welcome . . .
Lotus, my humble and not at all professional suggestion would be for the sister to make a little visit and evaluate things for herself before pursuing any other options. Interventions can make horrible messes as well as, well, intervene in horrible messes.
Q-pac: Ned 51% Joe 47% !!!
http://tinyurl.com/leh98
I like the way you look, visitor! Ned over 50%! Liebertoast for breakfast!
Lotus,
That looks bad for your friend. I agree with Old Sow, unless there is reason to believe that Sis is part of the problem. I of course have no clue, but she seems concerned, but is comparing her normal stuff and new commitments at work with her sister’s obvious crisis? Seems like it is not the closest relationship?
As for the Sheriff, please don’t do that yet, unless you know that it is a law enforcement friend. Otherwise, it is just a trip down an unforgiving path. If there is an imminent danger, OK, otherwise, no one gets any better ever by being arrested — which is what Sheriffs do…. I would pursue the professional colleagues in her area — every bar association also has something like a “lawyers care” office that has professionals (attorneys and non) who deal with these crisis every day. I would at least try and seek their advice — they will have a very good on-the-ground network to assist in devising a strategy…
Good luck, friend. :~(
Hot damn, Visitor — some
GOODGREAT news! Thanks!Hi, imm and OS. Yes, I’m with you on that, OS, so looking for all advice on strategy and tactics.
Somebody should wake up Jane and tell her….
Good one, imm! Goes right to the top of my Suggestions for Sis list.
Visitor, way to go.
Those numbers are un*uckingbelieveable!
NARAL, PP, and a whole bunch of Labor “endorsed” Liebertoast!
Dayum
These numbers make it a lot riskier for other Dems to support Whinermann. Sounds to me like the party is pissed about being asked to pay for a primary that Joe says is worthless.
John Casper, good morning!
These numbers make it a lot riskier for other Dems to support Whinermann
That, sir, is a brilliant observation which I intend to help turn into common wisdom!
You give him too much credit. He’s more like the towel boy trying to show he’s part of the team.
Thanks imm!
Morning,
I wake up each morning hoping Fitzy will save us from our monster in the Oval.
As Bush blocked the eavesdropping inquiry, I’m
afraid he might have intimidated the Fitz
investigation.
Something strange and eerie is happening.
Still can’t figure out Sealed v Sealed…
Will it ever be unsealed?
IMHO, Bush directed the outing of Valerie
and should be impeached…
We have a fucking cover-up in process…
Sorry, I’m so paranoid today, need my meds.
Bay State Librul
JMO Jack Walsh, hang in there with Fitz.
“Still can’t figure out Sealed v Sealed…”
Again, imo, the key is that Rove’s lawyer, Luskin, did not release the letter he got from Fitz. The language Luskin quoted was that Fitz “did not anticipate” charging Rove. A lot of legal FDL’ers have commented that that’s textbook language for when someone “flips” on an accomplice. On balance, Luskin and Rove have concluded that Fitz’s letter contains information they do not want in the public record, which is why they won’t leak it.
OT, if the WH was blocking Fitz, I think Fitz would tell us.
There’s a lot of hopeful stuff in the court filings with Judge Walton. Christy, emptywheel and others have picked over that breadcrumb trail and it looks like
ScooterIrving’s defense is in a shambles.Buck up, only 2 1/2 years to go. From today. Not that I’m counting or anything.
Maybe for the next major summit the Administration can send a grownup. Like the Vice President — OK, maybe not. Well, we have a Secretary of State — hmmm, not her. Why don’t we just skip summits from now on….
You’re right, imm, the sisters aren’t close.
Their mother died when they were children, their English paternal grandmother joined the family until she died, they moved to rural MO from NJ when their dad was transferred, then he died on them when S (3[?] years older than Sis) was a senior in high school. The two girls stayed in their big country house through college at the local university, with some emotional support from neighboring families, then S went to law school and Sis to grad school. When I met them, S was 20 and Sis still in high school, S the extrovert, Sis quite the opposite. S came back to the house and entered law practice while Sis got a job on the East Coast and, before long, marrried.
Apparently Sis has blossomed as an adult (good marriage, career and friendships, from the sound of it), but when this cropped up at mid-winter, she hadn’t heard from S in a very long time (S used to host Sis & hub each Thanksgiving and join them at Christmas, but that seems to have fallen off in the last few years.)
In response to one of my frettings, Sis drily replied, “That’s what you get for caring.” But obviously, she does too.
Lotus, I’ll be back later — which state is S in?
omg– Soledad is giving us a tour of the cruise ship evacuating citizens– she points out the fancy chandelier and tells us that every single person was assigned a room and then showed us a gift shop, the pool and informed us that passengers got sandwiches for lunch and burgers and fries for dinner.
On MSNBC the bobblehead says the evacuated people at BWI are relieved and deserve a good stretch and that some of the 140 are students and govt workers.
Next up: Soledad will tell us how to prepare and deal with our children if we are on vacation and we are found in a war zone.
I feel like I am in insane world. Oh wait…
Good morning.
Missouri, imm.
Margot says bush really needs his exercise, naps & early bedtimes…another laugh or cry moment. 6 years of nothing but laugh or cry. Is there a word for that? I’m sure the brilliant fdlers can come up with one that would resonate like “truthiness” does.
Just heard on AAR the Q poll (as stated upthread, Ned 51%, Joe 47%) and rachel also said that Clenis is coming to CT on Mon. to endorse . . .
Joenertia!
Way to go Bill.
Feel the Nedmentum?
I’m so late here (had a feverish bug this week) and only had time to read this thread and post this little bit before I go back to bed.
NZ expat –
I suggest giving your 15 y.o. some books to read as supplement to the school education (and insist on his reading them). What I have in mind is the type of book assigned to me at my highly unusual Catholic high school (which launched a “progressive education” project during the years I was there, which was during Vietnam).
For example: Have him read Johnny Got His Gun by Dalton Trumbo. It shook the living daylights out of me when I read it at 15. It’s a revelation in terms of the reality of war and what happens to a naive young man who’s horrifically disabled by his injuries. The fact that it’s about WWI, the “war to end all wars” matters not one whit. I think it’ll grab his attention from the very first pages. Its anti-war message is not at all preachy, it packs a huge emotional wallop. You can point out, after the book is finished, that living in NZ protects him from all that.
Other books we read back then: Eldridge Cleaver, Soul on Ice; Autobiography of Malcolm X; Theodore Roszak’s The Making of a Counterculture; Maya Angelou’s I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, and many other such “radical” (for the time) offerings.
There are of course other excellent much more recent books. You know his reading level, you should be able to choose well. But make them challenging books, something engaging in subject matter, but requiring real thinking. If it were my son, I’d devise a syllabus to give him the tools to develop a real political (and ethical) outlook.
For example: What about a book like “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man”? In the context of the international impact of American hijinks regarding “globalism” — do you think his new international living experience would enable him to think about these concepts, would it “resonate” with him? Only you can assess the sorts of stuff he would find engaging, and which would be appropriate for his stage of intellectual growth. Maybe “Hit Man” would be a bit much, but there are books at all levels.
It just seems to me that there are ways to engage him in simultaneously supplementing his schoolwork, giving him a political/ethical education, and thereby explaining to him — through discussions with you and his dad — the WHY of your decision to keep him in NZ.
These are just thoughts on what I imagine trying if I were in your situation. My gut reaction, on imagining this, is that I would do everything possible to stay in NZ with the whole family intact.
BTW — wishing you all the best whatever you decide. I think you’re courageous to have transplanted yourselves like this. You’ll be in my thoughts and prayers.
John Casper,
Thanks John… I needed that…
A FDLer helping another FDLer…
I’m finally out of the cellar in my
fantasy baseball league. The “Bay State Libruls” pulled ahead of the Lost Sox when Josh Beckett pitched a one hitter.
The day is looking brighter…
Jack
fwiw, lotus, I’m late to this topic, sorry if this has already been suggested, but has anyone tried certified mail?
If she won’t/can’t answer the door to sign, it’s very relevant to whatever options you have left.
If she at least signs for the it, you can take some of the worst scenarios off the table at least for now.
Finally a poll. Ned is ahead! WooHoo!
http://www.courant.com/news/lo.....lines-home
keeponthinkingfree –
I love your moniker!
It makes me think of that German folksong, which was actually a song of stifled political revolution (1848) called “Die Gedanken sind frei!”
The title translates exactly as “Thoughts are Free!” — but the meaning within the whole song is more like “The Powers That Be Can’t Control What Goes on in Your Head.”
A great sentiment for us all to be reminded of. Thank you for that. And it’s nice to meet you and other new posters here. Looking forward to more of your free thoughts!
Stay in NZ and get him interested in further educational opportunities with the internet. WITH supervision. All types of education on those toobz and not all is good. But still, it is a great educational tool.
I am assuming that you will have total dual citizenship when your residency requirements are over in NZ? It would be hard giving up American citizenship all together but for the next 10 years life will be uncertain here. No matter what happens in November ‘06 and November ‘08. I have no great hopes for a reclamation soon.
What good news about Ned…Morning Lakers
RevDeb–Actively campaigning for one side in a primary? Is this a Rubicon for the DLC and the Clintons? Maybe Clenis and Hill need an object lesson in just how relevant his endorsment’s gonna be in ‘08?
AM reading — please give traffic to this commentary at msnbc:
Bush to stem cell community: Drop dead
With a flourish of Bush’s veto pen, the Senate bill allowing public funding of embryonic stem cell research has been consigned to the legislative trash can._ By Arthur Caplan, Ph.D.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13935219/from/ET/
As a part of that stem cell “community” I consider vital that we make part of our long-term work holding accountable the vote-traders in the Senate and the House who allowed this veto to sustain. The Radical Bush Regime must be eradicated from all branches of government.
The problem is that a lot of people in this country don’t care how we look outside of our borders. They don’t even know what exists outside of our borders. All they know about is sending money to the 700 club. That’s real to them.
lotus –
Can you point me to the thread where you first spoke about this situation? I don’t know the story, but don’t want to make you repeat yourself.
It sounds pretty scary — am sending good thoughts and prayers in the direction of “S” and all who care for her.
John Casper has a great idea regarding sending a letter she has to sign for!
I agree with Prairie at 264
We need to make the vote trading an issue and demand accountability
Mrs K8–a thoughtful response to NZ’s request. ABout what I would have written if I hadn’t gotten lost in the Toobz and email. If they were still young, I’d do just about anything to keep my kids away from the US these days. As a granma, I worry for their kids whose parents are nowhere near as radical as at least some of their grandparents. LOL
The best education kids can get about the US comes from hearing other opinions from afar. As was said above and which I here twist, the teen age years are about crossing the threshold into the adult world of “suffering”. With the Toobz and libraries (and a little privilege) anyone can get a great education anywhere, and it seems like NZ’s son’s greatest privilege is that his parents care enough. If he NEEDS to return to the US, let him do it for college. The time there in NZ will at least interrupt the relentlessness of US culture for long enough to birth other aspects of his personality.
Hi, Hope. I’m jumping in and out here, trying to catch up on the overnight threads, so you may have already done this and I haven’t seen it yet . . .
little dog, CA DFLer, Hypatia et al. have been trying to find out more about the New Braunfels situation and how they can help. If you could say something about that, we hankering to hear it.
NZexPat — you might rent a the video of “On the Beach” which is about life in the Southern Hemisphere after a nuclear war ‘up north’ …
I just had a lot of fun.
I left a voicemail for NARAL 202.973.3000 and told them that inspite of their endorsement of Liebermann, the latest CT polls show Ned ahead.
I am embarrassed to admit what unadulterated sophmoric joy I took in providing them that fact.
Then, I asked them to reconsider their endorsement of Lieberman and if nothing else, commit to supporting the winner of the Democratic primary in CT.
lotus: the NewBraunfels folk now have all the physical stuff they need (food, etc) but always can use cash …
Morning, all - was just pulling into my parking space when I heard the polling numbers, and let out a big “Whooo-hoooo!” Also heard about Bubba planning to endorse, and have decided that it’s not going to stop the Nedrenaline; it’s too late for these last-minute endorsements.
Wait! I think a heard a “Ka-Pow!!” Must be the sound of that big vein on Joe’s head popping after the poll news went public. Sweet!
yay Ned and yay Bill! Joe’s goose is finally cooked and will soon be a crispy critter. Begone, you chickenhawk– there’s a job for you somewhere…
So sorry for your troubles and worries, lotus.
Wow, Ned’s leading Schmomentum! That was wonderful to see first thing this morning.
51-47%, and even with the 2% margin of error, Lamont is STILL in the lead!
But we’ve got to keep the pressure on; q-poll shows that Joe is expected to easily win a 3-way race in Nov. The primary is only half the battle.
IF joe wins in a 3 way, who is going to want to play with him? No matter what happens from here he is very damaged goods.
Hi, Mrs. K8 — so good to have you back with us!
I’m sorry, I can’t recall on which thread I first told this story, but the basic deal is: one of my three best friends, a lawyer in Missouri, seems to have suffered some kind of psychic break. In mid-December, she suddenly dropped all contact with everybody, and now her sister in NJ has discovered that at some point she also went AWOL from her caseload and is temporarily suspended from the Bar. Sis and I are trying to figure out how best to intervene.
Mornin’. Howdy to MrsK8, hope you are well and in good spirits.
Puppy update??
So Ned is WINNING! YAH! We knew this would happen.
President Clinton’s reaction, not so much: Clinton has also said he thinks it is wrong for Democrats to challenge one of their own. Yo, dog, how ’bout the voters of Connecticut get to decide that? “One of their own.” Whose own?
That’s MY seat. MINE. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Thanks Lotus
Here’s the skinny: A few days ago vandals broke into the New Braufels, TX SPCA. They destroyed much of the facility and killed or maimed 35 animals. The poisoned the food supply and have not been caught. The shelter has recieved enough replacement food ans such and now is in dire need of donations to get back to business. Here’s a link to them:
http://www.petfinder.org/shelters/TX478.html
And thanks to anyone that sends them a littel something.
Mornin’ all. Another fitting description of the dear leader, Trex. I think Bar slapped him upside the head one too many times and the repeated trauma to his brain(?) along with a long history of chemical insults has resulted in “impaired executive function” the world is now enjoying. He is the Unitard.
Lotus’ animal shelter that is rebuilding after vandalism [pause for swearing] is still happy to accept money donations but they have enough supplies.
Humane Society of New Braunfels, Texas.
Boy I have not had my coffee yet. Sheesh.
Actually I was hoping for a looseheadprop puppy update, but the animal shelter works too :)
thanks egregious, you’re a Doll
((((((egregious & lotus))))))))))
a post on Big Orange about Ned’s poll numbers:
Feel the Nedmentum?
lotus –
What a heart-wrenching situation!
I guess this is a question which has somehow been answered or dealt with much earlier — does her phone still work, or has it been shut off? Or still connected, but she won’t pick up?
What do you think of the registered/certified (can never remember which is which) mail suggestion by John? Something which requires a signature. Maybe a package with a gift — if you can think of something she would like, as in something you know would make her feel “safe” in receiving, something engendering good feelings.
Of course, with a psychotic break it may be impossible to know what sort of gift couldn’t be misinterpreted by a brain in trouble.
Still, a letter inviting her to call (maybe with a pre-paid calling card if her phone’s been turned off?) or just a message of love — sent in a way requiring a signature — would let you know if she comes to the door at all.
Am finally going to bed now — will hold her and you and her sister in prayer in my heart as I drift off. Will be looking for you later.
and another really choice comment:
lotus– could be a psychotic break/depression, substance abuse, or physical disease. I think John Casper’s idea of a certified letter is very good, and imman’s caution against law enforcement intervention also worth bearing in mind. Did anything else happen when the Bar suspended her? One would think there would have been some attempt to reach her before that happened and how did that go?
Dru– Unitard fits!
I’m afraid Bill’s wrong on this one. Of course, he has to vote to “stay the course”, otherwise those bad guys who like to replace Billary might take his position as their endorsement.
Hello, may the BEST candidate win in CT. Go Ned.
I just went over to the NB SPCA site (egregious linky better than mine) and they have started a blog! I told them on tuesday that I had, “Put out a national call” on FDL, and they said, “What a great idea”. So…
Animal Rootz!
woohoo my bold sorta worked
lotus - what a terrible situation.
As a total outsider, looking on from my keyboard, I think if I were the sister, I would just go and check it out for myself; I’d want to talk, in person, to the people she worked with and those she was closest to. I’d line up some kind of local support to stand by, but I would just go. I don’t know that I would be able to handle the guilt if something irrevocable happened and I hadn’t gone because of other commitments.
What the sister doesn’t know is that your friend may desperately want someone she knows and loves to “rescue” her from the hell she is in, but is too debilitated to reach out herself. She might be in need of hospitalization, and if this were my sister, I’d be looking into the procedures for an involuntary commitment. Your friend might hate her sister for it initially, but it may be the only way to get her started back on track mentally, if that is the problem.
Just my 2 cents. I hope things resolve safely and peacefully.
TRex, I know you were all broken up about Ralph Reed, but cheer up. You think one little primary defeat is going to be the end of him? Of course not. You just can’t keep a good man down.
Lotus, what about you making some phone calls to people that worked with her? Letter with self-addressed stamped envelope to make a reply easier–if she is severely depressed, even getting it together to write a letter is tough.
Gather information, try a letter or three, follow up with visit.
I vote with the folks that say loving contact is the way to go. She is surely punishing herself so much that anything negative is just piling on. Department of Been There.
I thought it was inappropriate, but not sexist. I don’t think Bush is sexist - he is surrounded by too many powerful women for that to be the case.
By the way - I can totally see Ronald Reagan doing that to Maggie. But not in front of cameras. And certainly not in Russia.
Thanks, y’all (still catching up earlier threads and just checked in here again).
Mrs. K8 (when you get back), S has for years refused to have a home phone. She used a cellphone only when she was running for office and serving as county prosecutor, but ditched it ASAP. She & I emailed back & forth constantly until mid-afternoon of December 18 (she was due here for New Years), but I’ve only heard from her twice since then, the latest in mid-March, despite repeated, supportive pleas which I finally stopped.
I’m going to call her friend B (whom I met once or twice years ago) today, hoping to pick her brain about whether S’s little county Bar has that “lawyer care” op that imm referred to.
Thanks for your suggestion too, John Casper. We know where she is (or at least don’t have reason to suspect she’s not at home with the dog and cat she loves), so I’m not sure how a registered letter would get us down the road.
Mostly, I’m just hoping to catch B today, and see if that fills in any of the many gaps or stirs up a new idea.
Thanks again, you dears.
BUsh is a pig and I do think he’s sexist.
Lotus: your freind, I think what Anne said is best with someone standing by outside. She could be in real trouble.
I agree 100%, Anne and Hope.
This will probably get EPU’d, but for Bush’s buddies at the NSA (maybe they’ll read it to him at the weekly briefing):
From the CIA Factbook, the world’s largest countries by area (sq km):
Russia 17,075,200
Canada 9,984,670
United States 9,631,420
China 9,596,960
egregious, my problem is, of all S’s local friends, B is the only one whose last name I know. Sis has contacted others, as I said, but they’re all as dumbfounded and clueless as Sis and I.
S must have medical attention ASAP. I’m beginning to fear a brain tumor or something — no inorganic cause makes sense.
Hugh at 46 Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Nicholas Burns was on Charlie Rose. Be afraid, very afraid. This guy is beyond clueless.
Disagree. I know him, not clueless but intelligent and capable. More like Hadley, sharp but defending the wrong policy as far as we’re concerned.
lotus - I hope you can get some word or resolution re: your friend very soon.
Merkel- that she was talking to Prodi at the time makes it even a little more interesting, doesn’t it? Italy is issuing warrants and digging in and investigating wrongdoing within its intelligence community related to relationships with the US. Merkle has been supportive of Bush, but Germany is investigating the el-Masri kidnapping by the US and digging into who in Germany’s military and intel communities knew about it and kept it under wraps. Kind of adds an overlay to his need to walk over and assert some control over that conversation.
Revdeb–I slightly disagree that nobody will want to play with him even if he wins a three-way race. In the most optimistic Senate ‘06 scenario, there are 50 non-Lieberman Democrats. That would make Senator Lieberman the most powerful man in Washington between November and January–he’ll be able to name his price. He’ll be chair of whatever committee he wants.
Actually, I think this is an attack point for breaking his Republican support. After all, he has pledged to caucus with the Democrats. (Although didn’t he pledge to Senator Reid he wouldn’t run as an independent? Just sayin’ ) If that pledge, and its possible consequences in a close Senate, are emphasized, perhaps Republicans can be convinced they need to run a real campaign.
lotus,
Yellow pages with names of attorneys, just start making calls. Do you know S. Do you know somebody else who does know S, that kind of thing. You’ll find colleagues who are worried as well, and with better knowledge.
Did she have a secretary? Work down the hall from anybody, etc.
With three deaths in the family it sounds less like a brain tumor (could still try for a physical workup) and more like something snapped. Not happy to hear about a new man in her life, it could be related. Hyper controlling deal. She’s very sick and he’ll ‘take care of her.’
Prof. Foland
After all he’s done, who will be able to trust him? As you pointed out, he’s not exactly a man of his word. Flip Flop anyone?
If Ned wins the primary and does it soundly, I don’t see how this isn’t a HUGE story getting lots of name rec. for Ned and forcing HoJo to make ever more and more mistakes and missteps until he buries himself. He is so paranoid now, multiply that big time.
Also, the unions and all the other groups that felt obliged to support Joe will no longer have to hide and can come out full force for Ned if they want.
The momentum really is breaking hard for Ned. But, time and a lot of work will tell.
This is a 18 gain for Ned in one month! Lets try to keep it going.
Man, I hope the NAACP boos the chimp loud and long– they could also turn their backs on him for good measure.
What is the “center” that Leiberman supposedly represents? Sen Clinton must have gotten some bad grumbling for her “support the winner of the primary stance if they’ve pulled ex-Pres out to campaign.
new thread !
Oh, I feel stupid– I misread and thought that Bill was coming to endorse NOT Joenertia. That’s what I get for not reading properly early in the am and what coffee is for. dang.
How could he? I’m beginning to dislike him as much as I do his wife.
Wow, I finally caught up to the Jane-Ned video — is that BEAUTIFUL or what? And the Quinnipiac news, and the NYT story — good lord!
Has Big Dog’s vaunted political genius suddenly deserted him? Look down, Bill: JoHo just turned into The Tarbaby right there in your hands!
Meanwhile, it’s being reported that Israel is using chemical weapons in Lebannon.
This is an account by David Rubenstein, Managing Director of The Carlyle Group, of George W. Bush’s time on the Carlyle board in a speech delivered to the Los Angeles County Employees Retirement Association. (from an article by Suzan Mazur)
But when we were putting the board together, somebody (Fred Malek) came to me and said, look there is a guy who would like to be on the board. He’s kind of down on his luck a bit. Needs a job. Needs a board position. Needs some board positions. Could you put him on the board? Pay him a salary and he’ll be a good board member and be a loyal vote for the management and so forth.
I said well we’re not usually in that business. But okay, let me meet the guy. I met the guy. I said I don’t think he adds that much value. We’ll put him on the board because - you know - we’ll do a favor for this guy; he’s done a favor for us.
We put him on the board and (he) spent three years. Came to all the meetings. Told a lot of jokes. Not that many clean ones. And after a while I kind of said to him, after about three years - you know, I’m not sure this is really for you. Maybe you should do something else. Because I don’t think you’re adding that much value to the board. You don’t know that much about the company.
There’s a word to describe Shrub. It isn’t English, though, so he wouldn’t understand it.
Nekulturny.
I wonder how the world might have changed if she had stood up, turned around and slapped him.
You know, my eyes filled with tears at the utter and complete humiliation from this. He is representing our country, our people, US, whether we like it or not.
I am outraged at his mindless stupidity. I honestly - no melodrama here - want to cry. I will forward this movie link to all of my friends with no comment, and just trust it to have the appropriate impact.
His expression appears to be as if he is looking at his staff saying “What just happened?”. I think he believes that they are ideolobically good friends (with priveleges apparently) and that he was just being “friendly”. The man is as socially inept as he is diplomatically impotent.
Trabically, I fat-finbered that.
I am surprised nobody makes this connection: during the run up to the Irak War Angela Merkel, then the opposition leader in Germany, wrote a strongly pro-war and Bush-flattering editorial (opposing the German governments’s position) and published it in the Washington Post (as opposed to keeping the discussion in Germany as would have been appropriate).
Merkel was licking George’s boots. Part of me thinks, looking at these pictures: she had it coming. Bush has two allies in Europe: a poodle and a bootlicker..
By the way: you don’t lick George’s boots without George proceeding to despise you (can’t resist this amateur psychology).
Bushbot is truly a menace to civil people everywhere.
Many of these explanations for Bush’s behavior (sexual dominance, ADD, drug/alcohol abuse) may be at work here but the underlying reason Bush acts the way he does isn’t nearly so benign. Most mental health professionals will tell you that disregard for personal space of others in an intrusive and persistent way is one indicator of a criminal personality. That would be someone who feels free to disregard laws and all standards of morality — need I say more?
She should have smacked the shit out of him. How precious would it have been to see video of that?!
Stephen Colbert gave him the verbal bashing he has had coming for five years; I hope someone will eventually
smack that bastard upside his headon live TV.What a suckhole.
[ Moderator : let’s chill on threats of violence here … mmmkay? ]
Apparently the news people at AOL news have no sense of humor:
A comment made by Christy Harden Smith on this blog wrote in reply to the Bush incident, “This isn’t a Sigma Chi kegger, it’s the G-8 summit.”
In a reply to the comment, a reporter from the associated press on the AOL online news page said, “Bush was actually in Delta Kappa Epsilon. Another Web 2.0 truism: Blogs are not always friendly with the facts.”
Okay, I guess Captain Obvious better teach the good folks at AP a lesson on sarcasm.
The folks over at AP may need a lesson on sarcasm, but I am very glad that distinction was made. My beloved Sigma Chi Fraternity broke away from Delta Kappa Epsilon back in 1855.
My question: how did the founders of Sigma Chi know that a DKE would be the biggest stooge to ever sit in the Oval Office?
Bill Clinton is the bravest, warmest, gentlest, most wonderful person I ever hope to meet in my life !
Bush was in Delta Kappa Epsilon.
the truth about the backrub … at rory’s place
oops … not that frickin’ rorys place, the one linked in this frickin’ comment … sorry
Here is what I sent to CNN about the article they did. I’m sorry I misspelled your name. -Jeff
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/i.....index.html
When Christy Harden said Bush was not at a Sigma Chi kegger I don’t believe that she meant Bush had ever been a member of Sigma Chi. This was obviously meant figuratively. If she had said it was not an Animal House party would you have thought that she meant Bush co-stared with John Belushi?