Comments on: The President, In the Oval, With a Single Order… http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:38:43 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Frederick http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-197934 Frederick Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:01:54 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-197934 <p>This somewhat reminds me of Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre, where he told AG Elliot Richardson to fire Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox; Richardson refused, so Nixon fired him and asked Deputy AG Ruckelshaus to fire Cox; Ruckelshaus refused, so Nixon fired him and got Robert Bork to fire Cox. In Dubya’s case it was less dramatic — he stopped the investigation before it even got off the ground — but the effect is the same. The president, acting like a king rather than a president subject to checks upon his powers, squelches any inquiry into his own criminal activities.</p> This somewhat reminds me of Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre, where he told AG Elliot Richardson to fire Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox; Richardson refused, so Nixon fired him and asked Deputy AG Ruckelshaus to fire Cox; Ruckelshaus refused, so Nixon fired him and got Robert Bork to fire Cox. In Dubya’s case it was less dramatic — he stopped the investigation before it even got off the ground — but the effect is the same. The president, acting like a king rather than a president subject to checks upon his powers, squelches any inquiry into his own criminal activities.

]]> By: oldtree http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195785 oldtree Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:06:30 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195785 <p>I am sorry if I am being redundant, but is this not one of those high crimes or misdeameanors noted in our laws on treason?</p> I am sorry if I am being redundant, but is this not one of those high crimes or misdeameanors noted in our laws on treason?

]]> By: Mickey http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195616 Mickey Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:47:45 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195616 <p>Isn’t this a <a href="http://1boringoldman.com/index.php/2006/07/19/the-abuse-of-power/"><b>crime</b></a>? We’re so used to this kind of thing [scandal fatigue] that we’re likely to miss things we might can do something about. This one feels like a <a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00001505----000-.html"><b>criminal act</b></a>. If I did it, I think I’d end up being a defendant in a trial…</p> Isn’t this a crime? We’re so used to this kind of thing [scandal fatigue] that we’re likely to miss things we might can do something about. This one feels like a criminal act. If I did it, I think I’d end up being a defendant in a trial…

]]> By: Katie Jacob http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195615 Katie Jacob Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:44:33 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195615 <p>me to me:<br /> I agree with you completely. In spite of the fact that the reality about election fraud keeps bubbling up…RFK in Rolling Stone,RFK/Papentonio lawsuit, BlackBoxvoting and Brad Blog, Lewis Lapham in Harpers, Gregg Palast, the Conyers Report, Mark Crispin Miller, report from Brennan Center for Justice at NYU,recount demand over Busby/Billbray in Ca.,revelations about Hari Hurutsi’s tests in Fla., articles about Ken Blackwell,court convictions for phone jamming and revelations about connections to RNC etc. etc,… the public remains very much in disbelief and our own representatives in government are suprisingly disinterested in the probability that whatever efforts they make, to fundraise, get out the vote, make clear their positions,they simply will not be able to effect the outcome of an election if the fix is in. My question to you (and anyone else listening) is what do you think can be done to stop this theft of democracy before it is too late(i.e. Nov.). I know that somewhere there is an answer because we cannot stand by and allow this to happen again.</p> me to me:
I agree with you completely. In spite of the fact that the reality about election fraud keeps bubbling up…RFK in Rolling Stone,RFK/Papentonio lawsuit, BlackBoxvoting and Brad Blog, Lewis Lapham in Harpers, Gregg Palast, the Conyers Report, Mark Crispin Miller, report from Brennan Center for Justice at NYU,recount demand over Busby/Billbray in Ca.,revelations about Hari Hurutsi’s tests in Fla., articles about Ken Blackwell,court convictions for phone jamming and revelations about connections to RNC etc. etc,… the public remains very much in disbelief and our own representatives in government are suprisingly disinterested in the probability that whatever efforts they make, to fundraise, get out the vote, make clear their positions,they simply will not be able to effect the outcome of an election if the fix is in. My question to you (and anyone else listening) is what do you think can be done to stop this theft of democracy before it is too late(i.e. Nov.). I know that somewhere there is an answer because we cannot stand by and allow this to happen again.

]]> By: The Oracle http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195493 The Oracle Wed, 19 Jul 2006 05:00:21 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195493 <p>Alberto Gonzales was the one who nixed the DOJ attorney’s clearances. He’s the extra-legal criminal mastermind behind all of George Bush’s criminal activities. He’s probably the one who okayed the torture redefinition and the trashing of the Geneva Conventions. He’s probably the one who authorized the extra-legal surveillance program that skirts FISA’s absolute and final authority, as established constitutionally by Congress. And he’s probably the one who came up with the idea of Guantanamo.</p> <p>Personally, I think Gonzales is criminially insane. And, just like Bush, he probably tortured small animals as a child…because it was fun. Sick. Sick. Sick.</p> Alberto Gonzales was the one who nixed the DOJ attorney’s clearances. He’s the extra-legal criminal mastermind behind all of George Bush’s criminal activities. He’s probably the one who okayed the torture redefinition and the trashing of the Geneva Conventions. He’s probably the one who authorized the extra-legal surveillance program that skirts FISA’s absolute and final authority, as established constitutionally by Congress. And he’s probably the one who came up with the idea of Guantanamo.

Personally, I think Gonzales is criminially insane. And, just like Bush, he probably tortured small animals as a child…because it was fun. Sick. Sick. Sick.

]]> By: From Freedom Rider to Torture Apologist: Lieberman 06 http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195319 From Freedom Rider to Torture Apologist: Lieberman 06 Wed, 19 Jul 2006 02:46:06 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195319 <p>I loved the scolding Specter gave Gonzolez for not turing in his homework on time, followed by a bitch slapping from Leahy for innapropriately giving Bush cover while the President craps on the US Constitution. The networks “America’s Next Dancing Wifeswapper Last Idol Standing”? Heck no, give me CSPAN anytime!</p> I loved the scolding Specter gave Gonzolez for not turing in his homework on time, followed by a bitch slapping from Leahy for innapropriately giving Bush cover while the President craps on the US Constitution. The networks “America’s Next Dancing Wifeswapper Last Idol Standing”? Heck no, give me CSPAN anytime!

]]> By: Adie http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195239 Adie Wed, 19 Jul 2006 01:51:10 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195239 <p>e at your 124</p> <p>In TOTAL agreement with lotus at her 126.</p> <p>It’s not “Southern”. It’s not “TX”.<br /> FGS Molly Ivins and Jim Hightower are as TX as it gets!</p> <p>& this comes from one w/ NEng/OH connections.</p> <p>C’mon fella. Specificate!</p> e at your 124

In TOTAL agreement with lotus at her 126.

It’s not “Southern”. It’s not “TX”.
FGS Molly Ivins and Jim Hightower are as TX as it gets!

& this comes from one w/ NEng/OH connections.

C’mon fella. Specificate!

]]> By: Adie http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195223 Adie Wed, 19 Jul 2006 01:38:53 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195223 <p>Oklahoma kiddo at your 140</p> <p>Oh heck, *sniffle* [translation: I think we’re in complete sympathy; I did wonder what Christy meant when she sent that ** to me many days back, but she’s such a special lady, I know she knows we all care and we’re all trying to do our best.]</p> <p>Is it enuf? None of us knows. But we just HAVE to try. Deep thanks to you for tending to your corner of the world AND for contributing to this wonderful blog.</p> <p>I do think there’s hope if we hang together, AND find the strength to reach out, with as much sympathy as we can muster, to those who have found themselves duped by this awful administration.</p> <p>We personally thought Vietnam and Nixon era were frightening. Having gone thru that, and stayed ‘in tune’ to the times since, I honestly thing today’s administration is far far more dangerous than anything we’ve yet experienced.</p> <p>The military-industrial complex has been melded to neocon theory, fed by greed, tweeked by the latest behavior research by advertising wizards, & put into hyperdrive by the current administration’s heavy handed control over the other branches of government and the mainstream media.</p> <p>Far as I know, I’m not completely nuts daring to say all this. I don’t even know who Pachacutec is, but I respect him mightily, & I suspect he might find some areas of agreement.<br /> What about it, Pach? eh? Wanna agree, in some part, with this old retired horse-trainer, ethology-trained, bird-watching, veggie gardener/retired stay-at-home mom?? (oh, & recovering politician, if school board counts, heh heh)</p> <p>Silly stuff aside. Thanks OK kiddo. These are hard times, but we’re tough. tougher together, eh? ;-></p> <p>(((peace)))</p> Oklahoma kiddo at your 140

Oh heck, *sniffle* [translation: I think we’re in complete sympathy; I did wonder what Christy meant when she sent that ** to me many days back, but she’s such a special lady, I know she knows we all care and we’re all trying to do our best.]

Is it enuf? None of us knows. But we just HAVE to try. Deep thanks to you for tending to your corner of the world AND for contributing to this wonderful blog.

I do think there’s hope if we hang together, AND find the strength to reach out, with as much sympathy as we can muster, to those who have found themselves duped by this awful administration.

We personally thought Vietnam and Nixon era were frightening. Having gone thru that, and stayed ‘in tune’ to the times since, I honestly thing today’s administration is far far more dangerous than anything we’ve yet experienced.

The military-industrial complex has been melded to neocon theory, fed by greed, tweeked by the latest behavior research by advertising wizards, & put into hyperdrive by the current administration’s heavy handed control over the other branches of government and the mainstream media.

Far as I know, I’m not completely nuts daring to say all this. I don’t even know who Pachacutec is, but I respect him mightily, & I suspect he might find some areas of agreement.
What about it, Pach? eh? Wanna agree, in some part, with this old retired horse-trainer, ethology-trained, bird-watching, veggie gardener/retired stay-at-home mom?? (oh, & recovering politician, if school board counts, heh heh)

Silly stuff aside. Thanks OK kiddo. These are hard times, but we’re tough. tougher together, eh? ;->

(((peace)))

]]> By: Howard Carlin http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195166 Howard Carlin Wed, 19 Jul 2006 01:02:05 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195166 <p>Sorry to break the news to Prof, but Al Gore coined “unilateral instead of unitary” in a wonderful speech I saw him make last January at DAR Constitution Hall in D.C. in which he deplored the disintegration of the Bill of Rights under Bush.</p> Sorry to break the news to Prof, but Al Gore coined “unilateral instead of unitary” in a wonderful speech I saw him make last January at DAR Constitution Hall in D.C. in which he deplored the disintegration of the Bill of Rights under Bush.

]]> By: Western Otto http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195105 Western Otto Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:31:46 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/the-president-in-the-oval-with-a-single-order/#comment-195105 <p>revdeb- John Dean was a Nixon staffer, not Reagan… but yeah, it doesn’t sound like something Howard Dean would say, huh. Or even Dizzy Dean… but you probably wouldn’t remember him.</p> revdeb- John Dean was a Nixon staffer, not Reagan… but yeah, it doesn’t sound like something Howard Dean would say, huh. Or even Dizzy Dean… but you probably wouldn’t remember him.

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