Comments on: After the Long Night… http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/ Firedoglake weblog Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:05:12 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Greg http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-198980 Greg Fri, 21 Jul 2006 20:28:36 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-198980 <p>hey,<b> I</b> am the Sweetheart of Sigma Chi !</p> hey, I am the Sweetheart of Sigma Chi !

]]> By: Sane http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-198016 Sane Fri, 21 Jul 2006 00:41:47 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-198016 <p>Someone once said that an alcoholic stops maturing when they begin drinking. And when they stop drinking, they may be chronologically 45, but will emotionally be at the same age they were was when they began drinking. </p> <p>I wonder what the German’s think about his actions. (She is their leader.) </p> <p>Some men do these kind of things to display dominance, the way adolescents do.</p> Someone once said that an alcoholic stops maturing when they begin drinking. And when they stop drinking, they may be chronologically 45, but will emotionally be at the same age they were was when they began drinking.

I wonder what the German’s think about his actions. (She is their leader.)

Some men do these kind of things to display dominance, the way adolescents do.

]]> By: Cynic http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-195224 Cynic Wed, 19 Jul 2006 01:43:02 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-195224 <p>LHP:<br /> I gotta admire you. If that were going on with my animals, I’d be a nervous wreck!<br /> RES</p> LHP:
I gotta admire you. If that were going on with my animals, I’d be a nervous wreck!
RES

]]> By: Cynic http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-195193 Cynic Wed, 19 Jul 2006 01:09:18 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-195193 <p>Rayne at 84.<br /> I guess I have always been in a position where I could lose a job and not worry (and I realize that it is a very fortunate position) but I think if I were a woman, I would first have turned, grabbed the man’s wrist yanked him down as hard as I could (in front of the entire meeting) and said “You are sexually harrassing me, Mr. I am hereby filing a report in front of everyone, and my report on paper will come later. Don’t you ever put your hands on me again. You are a dirty old man!”<br /> And I am a male. But we were at least taught, when I grew up, that you never touch a woman who does not want to be touched….or another man for that matter. Or a woman you just might know well enough to touch that way in private when the two of you are in public. Not in this culture!</p> Rayne at 84.
I guess I have always been in a position where I could lose a job and not worry (and I realize that it is a very fortunate position) but I think if I were a woman, I would first have turned, grabbed the man’s wrist yanked him down as hard as I could (in front of the entire meeting) and said “You are sexually harrassing me, Mr. I am hereby filing a report in front of everyone, and my report on paper will come later. Don’t you ever put your hands on me again. You are a dirty old man!”
And I am a male. But we were at least taught, when I grew up, that you never touch a woman who does not want to be touched….or another man for that matter. Or a woman you just might know well enough to touch that way in private when the two of you are in public. Not in this culture!

]]> By: Cynic http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-195162 Cynic Wed, 19 Jul 2006 01:01:07 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-195162 <p>Where, I would like to know, was Chancelor Markel’s security. At least one of them could have grabbed the king of the United States round the neck, very quickly. I mean they’d let him go, but still, she’s the head of a country, and I have seen her security detail, and they aren’t people you fool around with!</p> Where, I would like to know, was Chancelor Markel’s security. At least one of them could have grabbed the king of the United States round the neck, very quickly. I mean they’d let him go, but still, she’s the head of a country, and I have seen her security detail, and they aren’t people you fool around with!

]]> By: cell http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-194908 cell Tue, 18 Jul 2006 21:40:23 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-194908 <p>Durbin is great and for years I wondered how the cult of conservatism was going to shut the minds of their followers down to anything he says. Of course they did that blowing out proportion and context his statement on Guantanamo. Now he can say ANYTHING no matter how true and they do not hear him. He is invisible to the cult of conservatism.</p> <p>They control the minds of millions - they can make them bark on Q. They could tell them to eat a dog a turd and they would follow Spot around with fork till he pinched one off for them.</p> Durbin is great and for years I wondered how the cult of conservatism was going to shut the minds of their followers down to anything he says. Of course they did that blowing out proportion and context his statement on Guantanamo. Now he can say ANYTHING no matter how true and they do not hear him. He is invisible to the cult of conservatism.

They control the minds of millions – they can make them bark on Q. They could tell them to eat a dog a turd and they would follow Spot around with fork till he pinched one off for them.

]]> By: karen in tx http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-194878 karen in tx Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:50:28 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-194878 <p>with regard to the Merkel grope:<br /> W. is just being his usual clueless self.</p> <p>A material part of W.’s problem is that his unacceptable behavior has been ignored (or even worse, rewarded) all his life. </p> <p>When he was Gov. of Texas, Bob Bullock “worked with him” to get things done. Bullock was a wiley ol’ Texas politcal boy. He let W. think he was charming ol’ Bob into doing what W. wanted. In reality, ol’ Bob was playing ol’ W. by letting him believe that he was being charmed by W.’s good ol’ boy manner. I really think that George believes that George is charming and that this is the way to make and keep friends. When he is back on his heels, he thinks this sort of thing will work in his favor. Like I said, he’s being his usual clueless self.</p> <p>So much of the behavior that “worked” for him before isn’t working for him now. </p> <p>This never was charming behavior, but he was led to believe that it would make him more “lovable”.</p> <p>yuck</p> <p>I sure wouldn’t want him putting his hands on me in any way shape or form.</p> with regard to the Merkel grope:
W. is just being his usual clueless self.

A material part of W.’s problem is that his unacceptable behavior has been ignored (or even worse, rewarded) all his life.

When he was Gov. of Texas, Bob Bullock “worked with him” to get things done. Bullock was a wiley ol’ Texas politcal boy. He let W. think he was charming ol’ Bob into doing what W. wanted. In reality, ol’ Bob was playing ol’ W. by letting him believe that he was being charmed by W.’s good ol’ boy manner. I really think that George believes that George is charming and that this is the way to make and keep friends. When he is back on his heels, he thinks this sort of thing will work in his favor. Like I said, he’s being his usual clueless self.

So much of the behavior that “worked” for him before isn’t working for him now.

This never was charming behavior, but he was led to believe that it would make him more “lovable”.

yuck

I sure wouldn’t want him putting his hands on me in any way shape or form.

]]> By: ccmask http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-194609 ccmask Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:24:10 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-194609 <p>Blank Kludge: I’ve been there many times and I love the place. However, this trip I missed it. A taxi dropped me off and I almost died that it was closed. So a cleaning crew guy called a cab for me and I had them drop me off at ~135 Street and I walked all the way back to 86th. That’s a lot for me! But the architecture is so great up there and I got some really cool gargoyle shots.</p> Blank Kludge: I’ve been there many times and I love the place. However, this trip I missed it. A taxi dropped me off and I almost died that it was closed. So a cleaning crew guy called a cab for me and I had them drop me off at ~135 Street and I walked all the way back to 86th. That’s a lot for me! But the architecture is so great up there and I got some really cool gargoyle shots.

]]> By: Mary http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-194547 Mary Tue, 18 Jul 2006 16:45:57 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-194547 <p>I’m picking hay from my hair and hot and should probably let this drop, but I have to say this last bit.</p> <p>It’s not quiet resignations and people going on to other things. Its public voicing of disagreement. It’s putting politics second to professional responsiblities and oaths of office. It’s not coming back on talk shows and in op pieces and in letters to the judiciary and calling people who made atrocious decisions fine folks, and it’s recognizing when you screwed up and taking that on. </p> <p>IMO, Bush and Bush packing loyalists could never hurt the institution in the same way as non-loyalists not making a public dissent to arguments and positions that were specious legally, vacuous morally, egregious ethically and destructive practically. When the best the institution has are people who resign in silence and keep networking, it is not the institution, it’s the people and thank god it is having recruiting problems.</p> <p>Bc that at least shows that maybe some new faces don’t leap at the chance to work for de facto criminals and torturers. Mouths of babes. </p> <p>Cleaning up for work now</p> I’m picking hay from my hair and hot and should probably let this drop, but I have to say this last bit.

It’s not quiet resignations and people going on to other things. Its public voicing of disagreement. It’s putting politics second to professional responsiblities and oaths of office. It’s not coming back on talk shows and in op pieces and in letters to the judiciary and calling people who made atrocious decisions fine folks, and it’s recognizing when you screwed up and taking that on.

IMO, Bush and Bush packing loyalists could never hurt the institution in the same way as non-loyalists not making a public dissent to arguments and positions that were specious legally, vacuous morally, egregious ethically and destructive practically. When the best the institution has are people who resign in silence and keep networking, it is not the institution, it’s the people and thank god it is having recruiting problems.

Bc that at least shows that maybe some new faces don’t leap at the chance to work for de facto criminals and torturers. Mouths of babes.

Cleaning up for work now

]]> By: ironranger http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-194536 ironranger Tue, 18 Jul 2006 16:39:23 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/18/after-the-long-night/#comment-194536 <p>..and your little dog, too:<br /> It’s upbringing standards no matter what economic slot a family falls into. I’ve seen dysfunctional families that don’t have a pot to pee in raise brats as spoiled as georgie that cause a lot of trouble in the community. Unfortunately, this one got to be prez & he & his homies are running amok in the world. God help us all. Remember the story of junior’s sister yelling outside Gore’s residence with other bush supporters during the 2000 vote hubbub? Barbara’s reaction: Isn’t my daughter a stitch? Klassy people.<br /> If georgie hasn’t been having a drinkiepoo on the sly in Europe, he sure acts like it. If he is completely sober, what a loser & he must have been been total ass when wasted. Where are his handlers? Did they forget to put batteries in the box on his back?</p> ..and your little dog, too:
It’s upbringing standards no matter what economic slot a family falls into. I’ve seen dysfunctional families that don’t have a pot to pee in raise brats as spoiled as georgie that cause a lot of trouble in the community. Unfortunately, this one got to be prez & he & his homies are running amok in the world. God help us all. Remember the story of junior’s sister yelling outside Gore’s residence with other bush supporters during the 2000 vote hubbub? Barbara’s reaction: Isn’t my daughter a stitch? Klassy people.
If georgie hasn’t been having a drinkiepoo on the sly in Europe, he sure acts like it. If he is completely sober, what a loser & he must have been been total ass when wasted. Where are his handlers? Did they forget to put batteries in the box on his back?

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