. Outsourcing Smear: Rep. John Larson convened a secret meeting on Saturday attended by CT-AFL/CIO’s John Olson (not-so-affectionately known locally as "Jimy Olson, Cub Labor Leader" for his diminutive stature) to go really, really sleazy and desperate on Ned Lamont. Lieberman has evidently tapped local Democrats to come together on behalf of his "Kiss My Ring" party so the smear won’t look like it’s coming from him. Spazeboy does an elegant, effortless deconstruction of the lies in Lieberman’s latest Bush imitation ads (which look like they were lifted from CTBob’s YouTube, above). As the Hotline Blogometer asks, "Are negative ads what really what Lieberman needs right now? Aren’t voters looking for a reason to come back to Lieberman?"
. Don’t They Know He Marched in ‘64: Ned Lamont was greeted with warmth and enthusiasm when he spoke last week at an African-American church, and Maxine Waters is coming to town to campaign for him. Joe tried to compete by visiting the Mt. Aery Baptist Church last night with a huge entourage and a cameraman. "He was told he could worship with the congregation, but not speak, and the camera could not come in," according to a member of the church.
Maybe they’re still stinging from this Lieberman quote, from the floor of the US Senate in 1995:
Affirmative action is dividing us in ways its creators could never have intended because most Americans who do support equal opportunity and are not biased and don’t think it is fair to discriminate against some Americans as a way to make up for historic discrimination against other Americans.
I’m sure Lieberman would rather they remember this quote, from a speech to the Congressional Black Caucus in 2000:
I have supported affirmative action, I do support affirmative action, and I will support affirmative action because history and current reality make it necessary.
Why African Americans are not lining up to join Joe’s "Kiss my Ring" party is beyond me (thanks to BarbinMD).
BREAKING – Hell Freezes Over: Yes, I’ll say it — oh the pain, make it stop!! — Robert Novak has a very good column up on Joey Earmarks. In his debate against Lamont, Joe was very proud of all the pork he’s brought home for Connecticut. It was one of Ned’s best moments.
Says Novak:
Lieberman’s exasperation peaked when Lamont called the 6,241 earmarks in last year’s transportation program "wrong" and suggested the senator was "part of the problem." While praising "good" earmarks for Connecticut, Lieberman added: "Of course, we were all against the bridge to nowhere." In fact, Lieberman last Oct. 20 voted against Republican Sen. Tom Coburn’s amendment to defund the infamous Alaska bridge.
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The choice for Connecticut Democrats is no less clear on government spending than it is about intervention in Iraq. The issue was put more succinctly than is usual for politicians near the end of the July 7 debate. Asserting that spending should be authorized through the regular congressional process, Lamont confronted Lieberman: "You support the earmarks, you work with the lobbyists, and that’s what needs to be changed." Lieberman replied: "The earmarks are great for Connecticut."
Novak does not, however, bring up one very salient fact — despite the reach across the aisle he is so proud of giving to Republicans, Lieberman has been piss-poor in bringing home dollars to the state. Connecticut rates 49th out of 50 for Federal spending received per dollar of taxes paid by state. He’s gotten plenty personally for his willingness to kiss up to the GOP, but relatively little for his constituents. I keep expecting this to turn up in Porkbusters, but alas, to no avail.
. The Connecticut Problem: Colin McEnroe rebuts the NYT’s shallow assertion that poor, frail old Holy Joe is simply a victim of a blogger conspiracy:
One could easly add his long-running alliance with Bill Bennett to curtail the protections of the First Amendment (and his bizarro trumpeting of decency during appearances on the vulgarity-laced "Imus in the Morning" show), his stance on Terri Schiavo, his speech denouncing Bill Clinton coupled with his deafening silence on John Rowland, his praising of President Bush’s Israel policies and hammering of John Kerry on same after John Kerry became the party’s 2004 nominee, and most recently and quite ruinously, his flip take on Plan B emergency contraception for rape victims: "in Connecticut, it shouldn’t take more than a short ride to get to another hospital."
I live in Connecticut. I report here and talk to politicians here. Let me assure the New York Times that this sentiment has been building for years. What was always sad was the timidity and fatalism of more mainstream polticians who would speak quietly about the desirability of challenging Lieberman and then — like mice who want to hang a bell around the neck of the housecat — admit they could not imagine pulling off such a thing.
. Let’s Talk About It: Ned Lamont would love to debate Lieberman over the war, but Joe says no. Small wonder. How long will he be able to refuse if locals keep calling for it?
. Taking Heat: Meanwhile, Barbara Boxer’s decision to come to Connecticut and rubber stamp Lieberman’s phony progressive credentials is bringing down the ire of her constituents. It’s an odd decision, particularly when so many seats are up for grabs this fall — wouldn’t that time be better spent in, Montana, say, stumping for Jon Tester instead? Why campaign for someone who has announced their intention to disrespect Democratic voters on August 9th if their decision doesn’t suit his views and leave the party? Maybe she’ll get her hands on Joe Biden’s train schedule.
Related posts:
- Lieberman’s Filibuster Threats Run Counter to 2006 Campaign Rhetoric
- Why Is Lieberman Scared of Big, Bad Rachel Maddow?
- “He’s With Us On Everything But The War”
- Q-Poll: Lieberman’s Opposition to Public Option Not Popular in Connecticut
- Doug Hoffman’s Cunning Plan to Reduce the Deficit: Cutting Earmarks, Taxes





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fitz
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got a fitz O
sorry 4 bein childish :-(
Jane, I love the daily Ned! Carry on the great work….
By the way, I never knew about Lieberman’s position against affirmative action — what a tool!
Hendrik Hertzberg is critical of HoJo in this week’s New Yorker.
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/….._hertzberg
Hertzberg’s concluding paragraph:
“If the Bush Administration, which still has two and a half years to go before America and the world are rid of it, is to be restrained and held accountable, then it is more important for at least one branch of the national legislature to be controlled by the opposition party than it is for Connecticut to be represented by a senator who is against—or for—the Iraq war. Ned Lamont, the earnest, mild-mannered J. P. Morgan heir who is the challenger in the Democratic primary, and has pledged to support Lieberman if the latter wins on August 8th, seems to have some inkling of this. The Senator does not. A couple of weeks ago, in a reprise of his 2000 maneuver, he suddenly announced that if he loses the primary he will seek a place on the November ballot as the candidate of a new “Connecticut for Lieberman” party. “I’m a loyal Democrat,” he told reporters, “but I have loyalties that are greater than those to my party.” No kidding.”
But, but, Joe marched with civil rights leaders in the 1800s!
I remember hearing earlier in the campaign that there were a lot of musicians who have long memories about Lieberman’s pro-censorship work (as Howie documents.) Are they involved in the campaign at all? I would imagine certain demographics might be motivated to come out for the primary by phone calls from prominent musicians.
Mary and Blank Kluge
Left answers to your questions in the EPU zone on previous thread
I know, I know, puppethead. I can’t quite reconcile it myself. Who could imagine that in the past two hundred years he changes his tune?
I disagree that the earmark exchange was one of Ned’s finest moments in the debate or that the Novak column was very valid. First, on the Novak column, he makes it sound like Coburn was representing a Republican position that was being undone by Democrats. Almost nobody voted for the Coburn amendments. The whole situation was bizarre, and really showed how unhinged Coburn can get more than anything else. I’m not standing up for Lieberman here, I’m just saying that because you agree with one of Novak’s points doesn’t mean that he isn’t lying about the evidence or trying to come up with a way to smear Democrats at the same time. Squids will be squids.
You may have gone for Ned’s sound bite tested “ban all earmarks” line in the debate, but I found it pretty weak. You think a freshman senator has enough clout to rearrange the entire federal budgeting system? Like I said before, I’m not standing up for Lieberman, but Ned’s response made him sound like an amateur.
Not trying to pick a fight here, just offering a different perspective. I don’t recommend reading Novak again. Now that he’s got a smidgen of your respect, he’ll start to convince you to bring nuclear weapons to baby showers, just in case.
peace,
jim
Redshift 10 — I think Howie actually has some stuff coming down the road on that front, too. Very exciting.
So, Joe is:
Wrong for Connecticut on Affirmative Action
Wrong for Connecticut on Compassionate Care for Rape Victims
Wrong for Connecticut on Each Person’s Right to Die with Dignity
Wrong for Connecticut on the War in Iraq
Wrong for Connecticut on Federal Assistance to the State
Wrong for Connecticut on Access to Affordable Medications
Wrong, just Wrong, on Free Speech
AND he is to the right of every Democrat in the State.
No wonder he has to run as an independent.
lhp!!
scurries yonder…
but, but, but Joe Lieberman was out there decrying the Golden Calf and all that lascivious stuff way before Moses arrived on the scene!
Any sense of when the new polling data will be out?
Speaking of Novak, it doesn’t look like his ongoing CYA/rehabilitation campaign has worked, at least among his colleagues.
There was also some offal on (Is it Kudlow? Kirtzman?)& Kramer yesterday where Marcia kramer’s co-host goes on and on about how the WORST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY would be if LAmont wins the primary in Conn.
Worst thing. WOrse than having not one, but two, national elections stolen?
I believe I heard that Joe was one of the guys in the ash pit with Job.
Not meaning to nitpick, but that should be “in Montana, stumping for Jon Tester” instead of “in Minnesota”. Unless, of course, there is a huge bloc of absentee Montana voters in Minnesota.
Love the blog, and sorry for using my first comment to nitpick.
Jim Preston 13 — you’re right. Ned would have no power as a junior senator and has no place saying that earmarks are corrupt.
WTF?
oh well, the Preznit is back in the US, back in the US, back from the USSR (so to speak) — AF1 just landed at Andrews AFB.
Tester in Minnesota???
lhp,
I think that the worse thing that could happen to the Democratic party would be to retake the House and the Senate because then they would be in a position to lead the country from Congress.
OK, winning back the presidency in ‘08 would probably be even worse for the party….
;~)
Dweeze — thanks, corrected, typing faster than thinking today.
Amy Klobuchar in Minnesota!
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld…..054248.htm
some people change for the better, some change for the worse.
Joe is one of the latter and nobody should feel even a teensy bit badly about abandoning him or dumping on him– he chose the path he traveled and has met the stop sign at the end of his political career.
no more.
hiya, Jane! thanks for all you are doing for us.
Boxer could stump for Tester in Minnesota, realize no one knew who the hell he was, then travel to Montana where he’s actually running for office. Sounds like a good road trip!
Memo to Joe: the internets allow us to instantly track your comments and positions, so you need to forget everything you learned in Bush’s class on revisionist history. You cannot run from your record. You cannot run from what you’ve said. There is no place you can run to where “The Kiss” will not find you (by the way, was it you Bush was so eager to get back to? Did he have a hot date with you?).
Your reports out of CT are a daily pleasure, Jane. I love the smell of flop sweat (Eau de Joe) in the afternoon…
Joe was the one who whispered to Eve “don’t listen to that snake. Don’t bite of that apple or it will all be over. And, besides, they haven’t invented taxis yet”
wasnt it Joe Lieberman tag-teaming with Jeremiah before filibustering became uncool?
It’s okay Deeze; I was about to post this when I saw yours:
It’s an odd decision, particularly when so many seats are up for grabs this fall — wouldn’t that time be better spent in, Minnesota, say, stumping for Jon Tester instead?
The pedant in me is compelled to point out that Tester is in Montana, not Minnesota. Minnesota has Klobuchar (which always reminds me of “Young Frankenstein”).
lhp, Mary, lotus, et al:
SENT
Thanks. (now I’ll have to track LTE’s over the next few days. I don’t even read the thing anymore. But, as a high school pup (’either late ‘73/early ‘74) the previous incarnation (Daily News) ran my very rambling ‘impeach-Nixon-now’ letter. Hope I have the same luck. This is the home of the Boland Amendment.) ;->
Well, at least AF1’s Stewards 8 hour nightmare is over…
Redshift @ 10 and Jane @ 14,
Oh yeah, that stuff is cookin’ and it’s gonna be hot. ;)
Ned Lamont never suggested in the debate that he alone could end the system of earmarks. His point was that the process of siphoning off appropriations to specific projects “earmarked” by individual legislators, with no other congressional oversight, is irresponsible. That seems unassailable. It is also the foundation for much of the corruption in Congress. It doesn’t just lead to bridges to nowhere; it leads to bribes to untraceable charities, etc. The argument that “well, we get some too,” is unethical and merely contributes to the climate of corruption.
Seems to me we ought to support candidates willing to say publically that this process is corrupt and should not be supported, even if they’re the only one saying it. Good for Lamont.
Dweeze
Welcome. If you have sharp proof reading eyes, you’re gonna have a field day with me
Thanks lhp – thanked you below b4 I saw it here too. *g*
Ned as “the worst” is pretty funny. Almost up there with “how dare Democracy Alliance not give to DLC.”
Don’t the Republicans have anyone they can sacrifice to the volcano god of centrism to help balance karma when Joe loses? hehehe
Guess that would be the “worst” thing that could happen to them, eh?
boadicea
was one of my heros (I don’t like the word heroine) growing up. Not for the sacking and the killing, but for standing up for her own dignity, her daughter’s dignity and her people’s freedom.
She was not at all ladylike, but she was one hell of a warrior queen
“volcano god of centrism”
Excellent!
Yo, blank kluge, you will let us know if it gets published?
Jane,
Do you honestly think that “earmarks are corrupt”? I’m not willing to say that they are. We elect our congressmen and senators and they have the “power of the purse” from the Constitution. Earmarks are part of that power, and if they are eliminated, where do you propose to put that power? Of course, power over spending will lead to corruption and abuse, but I don’t see why it is inherently worse for elected representatives to be accountable for it. In terms of the WTF? aspect of the discussion, I try to be a realist, and I didn’t think that Ned’s “ban all earmarks” line had any teeth. Just my opinion, of course.
peace,
jim
People are sick and tired of earmarks, even when those earmarks come to their state. Why? Because people understand that if money is going to come to their state, they would prefer it be for something that can be of actual use as opposed to another museum extolling the wonders of margarine. The states are dying for help to keep up with unfunded mandates, to help with Medicaid funding, education, and a myriad of other things that have direct and important benefits in people’s lives.
No, Ned Lamont won’t be able to single-handedly change the funding structure, but he can be a voice for change. The thing about voices for change is that pretty soon, you have a chorus.
OT but cool: I bought and donated to Joe and Valerie the domain name http://www.ThankYouValerie.com and they just sent me back a canned (but nice) thank you note!
The call for RGJoe to debate Ned on the war probably scares hell out of Joe. It’s a loser for him and he knows it. Besides, the last debate went so well for him anyway,right?(snark)If it does happen, I certainly hope Ned would be a little more forceful with the rudeness Joe showed.tell him to STFU a little. *g*
lhp at 41 – “Well-behaved women rarely make history.” ;)
Jim Preston 43 — Earmarks are part of that power, and if they are eliminated, where do you propose to put that power?
I just do not even know where to start with that statement.
jim preston
Earmarks are just tacked onto a bill. They are not debated or considered. it’s just a senator using the federal treasury like an ATM
just pork.
lhp 42 –
Like the man in the photo last thread:
“Yee-Haw!” Hell, yeah! My pleasure, of course.
Thanks again. (less than 24 hr. turnaround…a deadline is a wonderful thing; especially for Kludges.)
;->
Well-behaved does not mean silent, passive or fearful. Eleanor Roosevelt.
Jim Preston at 43:
Of course earmarks are corrupt, by definition. It’s spending public money with no hearing, no vote.
i hear rumor that quinnepiac will have a poll out thursday. if they are looking for folk who are planning on voting in the dem primary august 8, they are more than welcome to give me a call.
i find my self concerned about slime coming from other sources than from LIE-berman. we must stay on our toes to combat the rovian tactics coming our way.
Okay, not to hijack the Ned thread, but is that a beer bottle in front of Bush in this pix on Taylor’s blog?
http://www.taylormarsh.com/arc…..p?id=24257
Anyone?
yep, i do believe it is, CHS.
Christy at 54 – I don’t know, but after looking at the expressions on both faces, I would have to wonder…LOL!
Sure looks like it, but could always be Near Beer or some equivalent. Any way to do a close-up on that detail of the photo?
sure is Christy!
I’m still curious about the difference in the transcriptions and the WaPo story as to who said that Condi needs a success while “I can just go out and talk” …
on Ned … from what I hear from my mom, the Ned messy desk ad is getting a great response and makes all the Joe negative comments look like whining.
Those tricky Russians planted it there. Putin be sneaky, very sneaky. *g*
Blank K – good for you!
ODulski’s maybe?
Redd
It looks like one, but more signifigantly, it appears not to have been part of the orginal table setting. It is in the wrong place, as if he carried it there himself from (cocktail hour?) and it is the only one I see on the table.
Is there a way to enlarge that shot?
siun, that’s a great ad. Joe is dragging himself down into the mud all alone, isn’t he?
O’Dulski’s
LMAO
ding, ding, ding! lhp @ 61
Its Rootz Beer
good for *ilson! (45)
vino or Russki brandy
FDL had a fun find a fabulous joe klein quote contest. I think it would be even funner if we had a say it ain’t so Joe version.
~~~
“It’s time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be the commander in chief for three more critical years, and that in matters of war, we undermine presidential credibility at our nation’s peril.” Senator Joseph Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut, Dec. 6, 2005
Hey, when do I get a margerine museum???
I’d even settle for a butter emporium!!!
trying to imagine Russian nearbeer … not a likely concoction somehow
BBC just announced UK evacuation begins tomorrow … sounds like Poodle is following W’s lead
OK folks, diving into the earmark debate — earmarks are not always just for margarine museums or even “just pork.” Sometimes, they go to help people who really need it. For example, I work with a group that received a significant earmark (around 6 million over 5 years) to represent young minority kids charged with crimes. That earmark came out of the DOJ’s budget and might have been spent torturing children rather than securing adequate representation for them. The original earmark was a product of the work and passions of Joe Moakley — now deceased. A fine, old time Democrat indeed. I also worked on poverty programs in Texas that were funded by earmarks won by Henry B. Gonzalez — another great American.
Certainly, there is a lot of earmark abuse in Congress, but earmarks are also a way for people in Congress to meet some of the needs of people in their districts who might have interests in something besides homeland security and police car upgrades.
Mary -
Sent. For their TwiliteZone consideration. I STILL remember Buckner ‘86 and Yogi Berra. “It ain’t over till it’s over.”
But stay tuned. and thanks.
what-the-hell — here’s the text of the note I just got from Joe and Val
nice, real nice, *ilson! kudos.
On the OT beer bottle photo:
Bush: “Where the hell’dja put that Russki beer, Vlad? I’m runnin’ low.”
Putin: “I put case under table to hide from camera.”
CNN has also noted the bombing of Christian areas of Lebanon — and some of those Christians are hardcore rightwing proudly-fascist nuts too…
Where does Ned Lamont stand on affirmative action?
He’s for it.
(I went into the spazeboy vault and uploaded this gem just for you guys)
It’s a clip from May 11, the lighting was bad so I didn’t do much with it, but I think this roughly-two-minute clip let’s Ned explain his position. He was speaking at the NAACP candidates forum, and Joe was supposed to be there too…but something came up (as things inevitably do when you’ve said shit like that statement from 1995 and you realize you’re about to walk into an NAACP event).
Spazeboy, you are doing great work — Thanks!! and keep the clips coming!
Rep. John Larson convened a secret meeting on Saturday . . .
John Larson of Hartford, who supposedly supports Murtha? If this is the same, I am aghast. It’s bad enough that Lieberman apparently has turned Rosa DeLauro and Chris Dodd into his sockpuppets. Don’t these congresscritters realize that “friendship” is one thing. Active support for Lieberman undermines their positions in at least my eyes.
http://www.house.gov/larson/
some of those Lebanese Christians would make Tom Delay seem like Dr.MLK
hello mui, long time….
On Topic:
It’s so gratifying that Lamont is taking Lieberman down, and that Jane, with her great instincts, passion, and energy, is right there for the people. Thanks, Jane. I don’t often have time to contribute much these days, but I really appreciate what you’re doing.
immanentize — sure, there are earmarks for “good causes,” but the cost of this mechanism is that while others can’t stop the good ones, neither can anyone stop the bad ones. There’s no way to impose public accountability or have any rational budget process. Should we assume that the vast majority of elected officials will be honest, above corruption and earmark only “good” projects? Or should we assume otherwise? What do the last 10 years tell us?
And the ability to do this without significant scrutiny creates the breeding ground for further corruption, as contributers/beneficiaries have strong incentives to contribute to the legislator (or his/her favority PAC/Charity, while hiding the corrupt link to the earmark/appropriation.
Hi immanentize. Fancy meeting you here.
*ilson,
I thiunk Odulskis come in green bottles. Could be a Sharpakoff, but most likely a LoneRedStar malt liquor. they’re known to enhance talking with your mouth full.
imm
It’s not often I disagree with you, but just b/c one good man used one earmark wisely, doesn’t rehabilitate the system of earmarking.
The Constitution gave Congress, as a branch of government, the power of the purse; not indivivual congresscritters
and that in matters of war, we undermine presidential credibility by letting him open his mouth and speak.
Wasn’t someone supposed to have whisked him off for a bike ride?
LHP at 41:
Yes, when I was looking for a pseudonym for my political writing, the historical example came very easily to mind.
Particularly as she had tried accomodation with the Romans, and it was only when they broke the treaty with her tribe, flogged her, and raped her daughters that she decided to fight to the death rather than capitulate one more day.
I’ve felt that way about my country for the last several years. I hope we will prevail, I plan on us doing so.
But come what may, I will fight to the very bitter end against the corrupt, bigoted, patricians who have tormented constitutional democracy into this almost unrecognizeable form.
Because it is clear they will not stop until they are made to do so.
Does anybody know how to either enlarge or zoom in on the photo at Taylor Marsh?
BTW I clicked on “properties” on the photo and it’s jpg name is “bush_drunk”
I wonder, did taylor have a good close look at the label on the bottle?
Cantor and Hillary come out in very strong defense of Israel’s actions. (via CNN)
You go Iceni Queen!
Jane,
Is pressure building for another debate? I noticed one link to an article pushing for a debate on Iraq.
Warner reticent to speak on unconditional support for Israel– via cnn. Something is coming up on the Hill this week wrt to Lebanon/Israel.
>>>>>>>>>>>
“But come what may, I will fight to the very bitter end against the corrupt, bigoted, patricians who have tormented constitutional democracy into this almost unrecognizeable form.
Because it is clear they will not stop until they are made to do so.”
I’m with you, boadicea!
1,206 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOES ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Hamsher,
Don’t feed the trolls dear…the little gobblins take up too much a yer valuable time. Let us take ‘em down er, better still, ignor ‘em inta last week.
KEEP THE FAITH AND TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER THERE’S SOME BAD SHIT COMIN DOWN ‘CUZ THE BASTARDS ARE PISSIN’ GOD OFF BIG TIME!!!
P.S. Has anyone heard from Mrs. K 8…I’m gettin’ a bit worried?
Better to get the vote out on election day than a week later:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..153712/517
A good roundup of flawed media coverage of yesterday’s demonstration in the central plaza of Mexico city.
I tried to zoom in on the bottle but it gets too ‘pixelated’.pixels turn to squares and blot out.
-ck- says: “I’d even settle for a butter emporium!!!”
July 17th, 2006 at 1:17 pm
Where did you see the spread about the margarine museum?
Spazeboy has a diary up at dkos. Why don’t y’all go show him some love: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/17/10383/8620
By the way, am I the only one who finds it funny that Holy Joe, the sexual scold, is holding out JFK as his exemplar of an inspiring President? Maybe if Bill Clinton had been nailing a mobster’s girlfriend or a blond movie star, HoJo would have cut him some slack. Joe, Joe, think of the children!
OT, for Ohio folks:
Boehner is really, really corrupt.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenat…..n/15101812
Hey everybody!
Two things
That photo has a digital code. It’s photoshop work, I think.
And,
I am conflicted about earmarks myself, having been able to see beneficial aspects of the process. The money goes directly to the need, bypassing local pols who would steal it for themselves. They are also an obvious way for congress to pay back the people who get them elected, including the people who did nothing but vote.
Every president I have lived under has asked for the line item veto, and everytime one does, the public’s unwillingness to trust the men they have elected to run their country prevents it coming to pass. These are the two poles we would normally be operating between, had it not been for Dick Cheney.
Ned Lamont needs to win for many reasons, but the most important is the message it sends. We are coming. Oversight will return.
“Don’t stand in the doorway, don’t block up the hall.”
Norske at 95, Ms. K8 has been around, but says her offline situation keeps her from posting much at present.
looseheadprop at 89:
“Does anybody know how to either enlarge or zoom in on the photo at Taylor Marsh?”
I downloaded it and did just that, but unfortunately the pic resolution is awful so all you get is just blurred pixels even at normal resolution. Zooming in just makes it even more blurred. Sorry :-(
I am just curious — how many people have dealt with the Congressional earmark process here? They are not generally “just sllipped in” they most often have to be passed by committeees in both chambers and also passed by both houses in the final version of a bill. Then, of course, they must be signed by the President and made law. Earmarks generally account for a very very small portion of any agency’s budget. They do not come out of nowhere, but actually set aside (earmark) specific money from an already-approved budget line (like a bridge earmark will come out of the Department of Transportation’s budget). They are not quite as anti-democratic as some here portray, any more than the fact that Monrtana has two senators just like California is anti-democratic. That is, they are part of the great political sport of concession and compromise. Earmarks are part of the Congressional Record and can be discovered like any other piece of legislation. Therefore, any Senator’s innapropriate earmark activities can be discovered and used in a political campaign against them.
Yes, there are abuses, but not like people are suggesting here. In a better system, each district would be allotted some amount of discretionary funds (earmarks) for special projects. As it is, earmarks are the bellweather of partisan politics. When the Democrats controlled both the House and Senate, the Republicans screamed about earmarks — it was in fact one of the primary reasons the Republicans bleated about the need for a line item veto back when. Now that the Republicans are in control, we complain bitterly about the abuse of earmarks. I am certainly not a proponent of the seniority-gets-earmarks system as ideal. And perhaps the earmark baseball bat is a useful political tool against Republican corruption right now. But I do not think earmarks are the predominent evil most of you are suggesting they are.
siun 58, the audio confirms that BLAIR said that.
Check out the back wall. There are several more of those bottles icin’ down.
nice bar, eh T? good catch.
Christy #54,
Yes, and there are two more chilling along the wall to Bush’s left. I’m sure it was brought with him for the trip, nobody else at the table had one.
Even if it’s near beer, my understanding is they still have a minor alcoholic content. Can’t imagine that’s a good thing for a dry drunk.
BarbaraB(99). I would like to use the word “ironic” to describe Hojos professed admiration for the famously randy JFK, but now that the preznit likes to use that word and I feel it has become tainted.
lhp at 86 –
I agree that one good earmark doesn’t save the corrupt aspects of the system, and it is sort of weird that I am supporting the earmark process, but, as I suggested — I have been bought off by the good my own little earmarks have accomplished. Work that otherwise would not have happened….
1,206 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOES ON AND ON…
Leslie in CA,
Thanx, I don’t get around here much anymore so please advance my good wishes…she’s one a those we can’t aford ta lose.
KEEP THE FAITH AND SEND ALL THE BASTARDS TA IRAQ…WE’D BE OUT IN 15 MINUTES!!!
http://photos1.blogger.com/blo…..king.0.jpg
for a slightly larger version (found by following the links via Taylor’s blog)
We could argue all day about whether earmarks are good or bad or both, but we are dealing with the perception among the general public that they are generally frivolous, which is not being well-tolerated these days. The truth is that the people will tune out of a wonk-y explanation of earmarks, so Joe, if he tries to go this route, is just going to look like he is defending a process the American people really don’t like – even if they should.
The fact is that there ought to be better ways to carve up the pie, and saying “earmarks should be eliminated” is one way to begin the process of identifying those ways.
Thanks, Angie and LHP. Proud to fight alongside you.
Immanentize, like signing statements, the problem is not necessarily in the function of earmarks, which have their place.
It’s in the rise in 10 years from under 1k in the 1996 budget to 14k in 2005. It’s in the sheer dollar numbers(32.7 billion in 2004) involved in a budget out of control.
When your kid abuses the atm card, you take it away from them.
When Congress uses earmarks in the same way, time to put them on a stricter allowance.
Big picture of Bush as Foster Brooks with a bottle in front of him…
Christy Hardin Smith says: “…is that a beer bottle in front of Bush in this pix on Taylor’s blog?”
July 17th, 2006 at 1:10 pm
At first, I thought it was a Beck’s dark beer when I looked at the picture. It could also be a Warsteiner Premium Dunkel (dark beer), but it’s hard to tell from the picture.
What’s the line that comes to mind as a possible caption for the picture? Is it “I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy”?
imman — okay, but should we then separate two issues: (1) Should congress have a means to designate (”earmark”) specific appropriations for specific projects? Answer: of course, provided these designations are properly overseen through the public budget process. (2) Should that earmark/designation process be outside normal congressional budget oversight? Answer: No. No one should be allowed to slip in an earmark outside that public oversight process, and it shouldn’t matter who the party/majority is.
I always read you making a third argument: things aren’t perfect, and this is one of those greasy things that makes the system work. We should accept it. Do you mean only when the Dems are in charge? Or is that okay when the current crop of Rethugs are in charge with a Rethug President?
Well, he looks drunk as the famous skunk.
Wonder what Laura and the ladies were up to when the prez spewed forth?
A field trip to the old gulags to get some new ideas?
earmarks and misc. Someone (?)brought up the fact, that in the 70s? there was not the earmark problem in Congress because everything went through one committee (chaired at the time by a Dem) and nothing could be added. But, there was a scandal with a mistress and so he was removed from power and the committee shut down. It became a real pig’s troth after that. Does anyone have better recall of the details? -To me (and I have mentioned this before) another serious problem is the [newish] phenomenon of spouses, children, and siblings of legislators being lobbiests. This is an issue for both Dems and Repugs and should be stopped.
Best suggestion I heard about earmarks and all other funny business in DC is to post all legislation on the Internet 48 hours in advance of the final vote.
Stephen Parrish, CPA
“Pooty Poot, it’s running down my leg.” – Bush
“Take your ass to the WC.” – Putin
Looks like a Sapporo to me. Maybe Koizumi got him to shake a leg at Graceland last week.
Scarecrow, great Eleanor Roosevelt quote. One of my favorite quotes is from a contemporary of hers, Rear Admiral Grace Murray Hopper:
A ship in port is safe, but that’s not what ships are for.
Shouldn’t someone just flat out ask Hojo if JFK should have been impeached for his in office flings?
Margot – Boehner came here campaigning for Hostettler – corp jet, quickie big bucks meal, then lots of time on the Victoria golf links, then whisked back.
Anyone – did Rumsfeld respond to his torture subpeona Friday?
boadicea — sorry, it wasn’t an ER quote, that I know of. I just thought of her in that context. I like the Hopper quote.
Dru at 112, link doesn’t work. But puppethead’s at 115 does, so if you linked to the same pic, we’re okay.
Has anyone tried enlarging the better version of the photo linked at 115? The extra bottles in the back are also clearly visible. And the empty glass in front of the beer bottle sure doesn’t look photoshopped.
OK – they are golF links, not golD links, but if he had to pay the fees, golD might have worked too.
Too many windows open,posted on wrong thread.
OT,
Something hiding in plain sight? First I’ve heard of this.
The SEC, FBI and federal prosecutors are investigating nearly 60 companies to determine if they have manipulated the grant dates and exercise prices of stock options to boost the profits attainable by the corporate executives who got them.
http://today.reuters.com/busin…..p;storyID= 2006-07-17T173859Z_01_N17312441_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESSPRO-ACCOUNTING-STOCK OPTIONS-COX-DC.XML
No mention of Halliburton.
Dammit.
Ref: The beer bottle – it looks to me like Bush is about to sit at the wrong place, and Putin is telling him he’s supposed to sit elsewhere.
Clearly pulling earmarks out of the public hat in 49th place is joethetic and he is proud of it.
I would like to see all but real emergency bills in their entire text at least a few days before a final vote.
mebbe this is the beer…seriously.
http://homepage.mac.com/jptarr…..r_lubi.jpg
richard engl on msnbc mentions that Israel knew Hizbollah would use the rockets against Israel *if* there was a US attack (or Israeli?) or even sanctions on Iran and so Israel wanted a chance to take them out …
consider whether this attack is Israel’s proactive step prior to a planned US strike on Iran (or a US backed Israeli attack on Iran)
It looks like the Americans for Democratic Action may be misrepresenting Joe’s votes in 2005. Here’s the website:
http://www.adaction.org/ADATodayVR2005.pdf
Joe has an 80% rating but when I first looked at this over a week ago, it stated he voted for the Conyers amendment on the Iraq war or vote no. 17 in their tabulation. He did not. Today it was removed but his ranking has not changed. I was hoping someone with more retained knowledge of Joe’s votes could take a look at this and if in error, petition the powers that be to change it or at least give it some publicity for embarassment’s sake.
Bustednuckles – Looks like Reuters pulled that story.
Imm at 21 I believe I heard that Joe was one of the guys in the ash pit with Job.
Wouldn’t that be, “According to my notes, I believed I heard that Joe was one of the guys in the ash pit with Job.” :)
Joe/Job…yuuhoo darkblack? Poor me! Poor me!
Famous names on Lamont’s donor list
Streisand, Newman & Soros support Leiberman’s senatorial opponent
Angie
at 143
I don’t think so. The bottle in the Bush pix has a rectangular label and the Large type white (?) writitng is 2/3 of the way down the label.
The Baltica label is oval and the large type White writing is centered north to south on the label.
But you are damn close, and because of looking at the Baltica label, I now notice that the bottle in front od Bush seems to have both gold and silver, like the Baltica label does.
Busted and Eureka, here’s another article on SEC/stock options scandal for ya.
Earmarks make it very easy for a congresscritter to take federal dollars and put it in their own bank account. This is done by laundering the earmarked money through a “campaign contributor”, who contributes some portion of that back, which ends up in the critter’s own bank account via “finder’s fees”, or relatives’ “lobbying activities”. Cunningham, Lewis, Delay, Weldon, and Doolittle are only the biggest names that have been caught at this game. (To me, this is a somewhat separate issue from “windfall profits” such as Hastert’s, which to me seem much more like “insider trading” than bribery. )
To a certain extent, disallowing earmarks moves this laundry cycle from the Congressional side to the executive side; but on that side, there are no “campaign contributions” or “finder’s fees” usable as a legal loophole to return the money. Any money that found its way back to a procurement officer would be prosecutable in a way it is not on the Congressional side.
I partly agree that these earmarks are out in the open and voted on openly in joint versions of the bill. But it’s pretty clear that somehow this is not much of a deterrent. Congressman Bilbray is thankful for that.
Leslie in CA ; hmm, works for me but yes, it is the same photo; and wrt photoshopping or sitting in the wrong seat; the yahoo photo link provided by puppethead in 108 shows the same bottle and President Pickled in that seat, next to Pickles…
Hmmmm.
LAT: Israel Considers Conditional Cease Fire
There’s an .xml tag at the end of the url for that Reuters story, and if you take it off you get the “story not available.” But you can go to the main page of the Reuters business section and look for the “SEC head sees option timing charges very soon” headline.
Angie, LHP -
Sapporo bottle here.
http://www.wingyipstore.co.uk/…..p?id=80410
I’m still laughing about Bush’s comment that it takes Putin 8 hours to get home. From St. Petersburg to Moscow it’s either a 4 hour train ride, or more likely, a one hour hop by plane. We’re talkin’ Boston to NYC here. Cretin.
[ Moderator: 700km or 400 miles ]
Leslie in CA ,
That would be operator error on my part then. *g*
Dru at 140 – the link in 108 didn’t work for me either; must be some problem w/my computer. So you’re saying there’s a later photo showing Bush did sit in the seat w/the beer, and not where Putin was pointing, correct?
the preznit “rolled his eyes” when he read the transcript of his comments to the poodle acc. to Snowballs as reported by David Gregory.
The WH stands by their boy monkey.
embarrassing? cowboy, fratboy, indelicate are some of the words I just heard David say wrt dubya.
lhp– thanks for that @ 137!
Ah, scarecrow, thanks for the correction. My misunderstanding.
Pelosi threatens to back out when Historical Society plans to honor DeLay, Cunningham
My, my, my, look what we have … here (G8 summit in Canada)
Just have to say, maybe it is near beer but the only people I have ever known to drink it are alcoholics
Spokane at 34 Minnesota has Klobuchar (which always reminds me of “Young Frankenstein”).
I saw a license plate that said “Frau” (blue car).
Here is a large version of the better-quality .jpeg file.
Andrew Sullivan has email from a reader in Beirut who says US Gov’t charging evacuees. To make matters worse, they’re going to get dumped in Cyprus and left on their own to find a way home. Same kind of do-nothing response shown during Katrina.
re: #147
“So you’re saying there’s a later photo showing Bush did sit in the seat w/the beer, and not where Putin was pointing, correct?”
Correct! click on the link in comment #108 to see it…
He either looks like someone just poleaxed him or he just shit himself.
I’m guessing the latter.
The main label resembles Sapporo’s, but the bottle on the table has a collar that the Sapporo bottle doesn’t.
oh pooh! Leslie, I just comprehended what you wrote…ignore me please!
Mary at 40 “how dare Democracy Alliance not give to DLC.”
Imagining photo a la poor me Joe, “That’s MY money! MINE!”
for non alcohol beer, could be this
http://www.bavariapivo.hr/Colo…..oholic.jpg
or this one
http://www.bluegrasscatalunya……ammSIN.jpg
darkblack @ 153– thanks for that, but he just looks much stoopider and drunker now that it is enlarged.
egregious — Frau Blücher
somebody get me a damm beer!
Here, Bong, now HESH.
Gosh, I loved that movie. Young Frankenstein– Putting on the Ritz!
Wow! Very slooooooooooow internets today
More on Duhhbya’s drinking of (wink, wink) “near” beer
T at 144
I don’t think we have a winner yet. No foil on neck of bottle. And the President’s bottle looks like it has Large typefont white writing on a mixed gold and silver field (though hard to tell).
Saporo has dark type on light field. But the label is the right shape and size.
lotus -
Yes you are correct.
I was focusing on the color scheme due to variations between bottlers.
Darkblack’s photo blows that one up, too.
Dru at 158, no problem – I have that delayed comprehension thing too sometimes. ;)
Darkblack,
That helps alot.
I gotta find me a pix of a Miller Light
Doesn’t that first letter look like an “L”
Imm, you have what might be identifying data on one of your comments upthread. Just a heads up.
[ not any more ]
john at 151 – hmmm. Lessee, maybe it’s iced tea.
good golly ms molly, I never ever thought i would appreciate Pat Buchanan’s take on the ME wars (on Tweety) he is blasting this admin!
Our preznit doesn’t talk to anyone, he says.
Buchanan occasionally drifts into Goldwater Republicanism. Then he quickly gets back on the reservation when putsch comes to shiv.
-GSD
OK, makes no sense. We reimburse the Israeli government up to $300,000 per settler moved out of the illegal Sinai settlements, and charge our own citizens thousands to be evacuated from their legal residences, schools and vacation destinations in Lebanon?
OK, on second hand, must make sense, because to question the motives and methods of people involved in these decisions is ……..
Long Island Ice Tea ;)
I meant Gaza, not Sinai. Sorry….
nyekulturni, E.T. , nyekulturni ?
I don’t understand this pay to avoid bombs rescue cruise which btw is not on time. Is this a new policy? Perhaps Cheney doesn’t want Lebanese Americans back on home turf.
Angie – It is indeed a sign of strange times when Pat sounds so reasonable. Sort of like Jane on Novack.
OT – or, very late! Thanks for the welcome, -ck-, back at “Any Questions” #134. I also appreciated Captain Goto reposting my comment a couple of posts ago! I am late with my thanks because I had to run off to work right after I wrote, and just returned home.
I hope people won’t mind if I try the link here again to see if I can make it work, and in case anyone cares to read the entire article which I found very thought-provoking. (I actually had had the URL in my message, but it didn’t show up at all!)
http://www.rockridgeinstitute……ncompetent
(”Bush Is Not Incompetent . . .Progressives have fallen into a trap.”
by Lakoff and others)
Kathie, with crossed fingers it works!
I’m sure the cost of the Israeli withdrawal from Sinai wasn’t peanuts, either…
zero coordination between Hezbollah and Hamas acc. to reporter on cnn from Gaza. He says there has been tremendous suffering in Gaza and they have not retaliated and are at the mercy of the action in the North. Pat says the war between Hezbollah and Israel has nothing to do with the US.
One of Josh’s readers nails it, I’d say:
oh my, pat just said that the preznit has outsourced his foreign policy in the ME to Israel.
john 176, surely he wouldn’t be drinking some elitist Yankee drink like that, would he? ;)
lotus at 183, agreed.
Oooooh, look. The NSA has a friend
At the suggestion of sending Bill Clinton as envoy to the ME, Blakely blanches and says “One president at a time.”
If we had a president, instead of a frat boy stand-in, that might be a valid comment.
egregious — just got off the no-air-conditioned train home. Thanks for the heads up — I meant and discarded Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention. Any resemblance to ID is purely coincidental :~)
Meanwhile, I have been thinking about this earmark thing a lot today — thanks all! And I srtill see their value in the real world and the issue is summed up for me by what Professor Foland says. He is completely right. But why I support them in some form is his observation: disallowing earmarks moves this laundry cycle from the Congressional side to the executive side and right now, the executive is playing with too many cards as it is. Spreading this stuff around at least two branches (Judiciary gets none to play with) is not too terrible.
And, I am not saying that they are inevitable and therefore must be accepted. Just that I believe that in a better Congressional balanced world, they havetheir appropriate place.
You all are great, thanks.
john in sacramento 176
L.I. I.T.-
Makin’ me thirsty w/that one! Cute.
…updated…
the guy in link at 187 is brave.
Joe should have told that churc he was gonna sing –
“In America you’ll get food to eat
Won’t have to run through the jungle
And scuff up your feet
You’ll just sing about Jesus and drink wine all day
It’s great to be an American
Ain’t no lions or tigers-ain’t no mamba snake
Just the sweet watermelon and the buckwheat cake
Ev’rybody is as happy as a man can be
Climb aboard, little wog-sail away with me
Sail away-sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston bay
Sail away-sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston bay
In America every man is free
To take care of his home and his family
You’ll be as happy as a monkey in a monkey tree
You’re all gonna be an American
Sail away-sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston bay
Sail away-sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston bay”
Of course! It’s a COORS!
You know another thing that occurred to me after seeing the clip today and being disgusted by w’s “ability” to see into Putin’s and Merkel’s soul and his constant fascination with Koizumi? It is that these relationships are only developed and of value for him– personally! He is our President and is supposed to represent US in the USA. This is not a frat party, but he is such a self-absorbed nut that he never thinks of US. Good fathers and mothers care for their children and listen to all of them, right or wrong.
David Ehrenstein -
Sing out, Louise!
john 187, I can’t follow that link – quick summary?
NSA has a friend, Tom. ROFL.
Leslie
It’s a joke. Someone did a myspace page on the NSA … and they have one friend
reading the comments under the day 6 post at lebanon bloggers
http://lebanesebloggers.blogspot.com/
… so very very sad and the attempt to find a way to talk across the horror is quite something, we at FDl can perhaps relate as a commenting community
this one hit hard:
Mirvat said…
Israel is killing us to save us, same way bush killed iraqis to save them right?
define terror for me again please? i for once am terrified and and so are all the lebanese people. hitting wheat reserves is not cutting HA off, it is cutting the people off and destroying the lebanese race. terror? no?
massacres targeting whole villages and burning people alive, terror? maybe not?
cutting off electricity, all means to run away, phone lines, evacuating the whole country of all the non-lebanese souls while we watch getting the message that no chance we will survive. terror?
asking us to disarm a power that you (with your superior military power, compared to the lebanese government with its non-existing army) can hardly handle, knowing that we can’t and killing us anyway.. terror? not yet?
all the lebanese prisoners of war that HA is trying to get back through exchange with 2 prisoners of yours.. 2=100’s, is the equation, is how much we’re worth. are you a super-race.. familiar? Nazis? terrifying isn’t it?
that’s terror.
i am a moderate liberal Lebanese person, who hated HA. i do not condone using the borders of my country for any operation not supported by the government (like taking 2 prisoners in the hope of exchange for hundreds).
i also do not condone killing and terrorizing millions of people for the sake of revenge.
FOR THAT IS TERROR
as i write this, civilians dying trying to run away while israel’s raid destroyed the bridge.
6:09 AM
Just a note about Boxer supporting Lieberman (I am a California resident):
She has still not answered my email where I asked her why she was supporting him, and I specifically mentioned his stance on Plan B, and not the war.
But then she has never responded to emails where I was not heaping praise on her. Apparently disagreeing with her is not tolerated.
Ned was in Goshen Sat.:
This is tucked in the bottom of this:
http://www.registercitizen.com…..&rfi=6
“The race has attracted international attention with a Japanese television company covering Lamont’s gathering in Goshen for a Tokyo morning show.”
siun, that is so tragic.
Imagine the ripples of fear that spread across civilian populations when they hear an Israeli soldier has been captured or killed. Something they have no control over. And they know what will come next.
siun. That breaks my mind, not just my heart.
So, what happens if the cruise ship with Americans on it is fired at?
I am so sick of this incompetent government. Story on Lou Dobbs right now about how the Americans can’t get their people out of Lebanon because it’s too hard while the French and others are already getting their people out.
Name any other situation where 25,000 Americans in harms way would not be an absolute outrage!
Eureka Springs, Ar,
New Orleans.
Freakin’ politicians!
Ehud Olmert is pulling a Bush
terror is hard to define. so many engage in it.
thank you siun for bringing that human voice to this forum. i read much from your linkys… the man on the street (or the mother and father sheltering their children) are so seldom heard from.
Eureka Springs,
Well I’m confused because I hear the cruise ship only holds 700 people (unless I mis-read). How many cruise ships are they sending?
I don’t watch TV news so maybe they updated the info…
I say that because like you, I AM outraged. A longer rant a little later maybe.
From the photo at 153, it looks like some sort of landscape scene on the label. Running through a quick search of Russian beer labels, I couldn’t find a match. Most of their bottles seem to have an angled neck. Anyway, it certainly isn’t Baltika 0, which seems to be the main nonalcoholic Russian beer.
Anyway, it might not be a Russian brand at all. Wayne Madsen says Bush has all his food specially flown in when he travels. Can’t risk poisoning the beloved emporer, can we. But then, that bottle ain’t Lone Star or whatever you Texans drink.
I’m Busted and will add a green zone.
BushCo has introduced a whole new diagnosis of mental affliction: Outrage Fatigue.
eg at 145, plus moderator: I’m still laughing about Bush’s comment that it takes Putin 8 hours to get home. From St. Petersburg to Moscow it’s either a 4 hour train ride, or more likely, a one hour hop by plane. We’re talkin’ Boston to NYC here. Cretin.
[ Moderator: 700km or 400 miles ]
I’m not suggesting it’s the same number of miles, rather that it takes an equivalent amount of time to get there.
well, john in sacramento, we said that shock and awe was okey-dokey and all those people were collateral damage and hell, no, we aren’t gonna negotiate with our enemies.
whaaat?
it’s a helluva bloody red carpet we have laid out.
please note that the 25,000 figure includes a large proportion of lebanese americans who live in Lebanon … I heard an estimate of about 18,000 I think yesterday
and the real horror is not the lack of evacuation of americans but the devastation lebanon and all who are there – esp the lebanese who suffer as all the powers play out their struggle … they have no hope of escape and are bombed when they flee
lotus -
Yes, I feel sick from the outrage. Later, all.
the ship the US Govt is renting is an older Greek cruise liner that can hold 750 people but since the trip to Cyprus is just 5 hours, folk can double up and the ship’ll hold 1500 passengers. 3000 people have signed up officially already and State estimates about 5000 want out …
I’m Busted and will add a green zone.
???
egregious: Bush was talking about Putins trip like it was coz Rossiya is sooo big, like maybe flying to Vladivostok from Sankt Pete — he is indeed a cretin (no insult meant to Cretans)
the Syrian ambassador just said that occupation is a bitch, *ilson on Newshour. not those words, but the same message just came thru loud and clear.
on condi going sometime to the ME: is it just a PR stunt???????
egregious at 213 – well, it takes about an hour to fly about 400 miles from northern to southern Cali, so if that’s the distance, your one-hour hop sounds about right.
Looks like Novak is taking out a Put option on GOP congressional control.
I had Supper last week with a paramedic who was in N.O. a couple of days before Katrina hit through Dec. He is finally starting to talk about it. I will say we really do need our own Hague.
Eureka, I dread to think of what he told you.
Busted ?? on New Orleans.)
again from Lebanese bloggers:
Mirvat said…
Just in from Lebanon.
I quote :
On behalf of all Lebanese Citizens:
Dear friends,
I am writing to you as a helpless human being praying in a country slowly
being erased from the surface of life for my salvation, that of my fellow
Lebanese brothers and that of my country.
A brief summary from the perspective of a citizen: half of Lebanon is
isolated with more than 40 main bridges destroyed, my family in the south
has no food to eat, no meat, no bread and the vegetables are very highly
priced because of the danger to bring them in, missiles are fired every
day and night on many villages in the south. Beirut is harshly being
bombarded, a lot of bridges were pulverized even in the capital, the
airport is devastatingly damaged as well as all the roads linking Lebanon
to the neighbouring country Syria. Today all the sea ports were bombarded
and we are imprisoned while many Lebanese are compelled to stay outside
Lebanon and many non-Lebanese from all nationalities are compelled to
remain in. No food, gas, fuel, or post can reach us. Villages all over the
Bekaa and the north are also bombarded and this all has happened in only 3
days!!!
The situation is escalating around the clock! We are now under the threat
of chemical intoxication since many fuel storage tanks all over the
coastline are being targeted. There is much worst! Kafarshooba and Hetta,
two villages in the south are being shelled with prohibited chemical
weapons and toxic substances. Villagers who are seeking refuge in
occasional shelters, completely isolated with no minimum fundamental
supplies, are asked now to inhale through wet textiles, sniff onions and
to grind charcoal then put it in wet tissues to protect themselves from
intoxication!
Hundreds of civilians were cold-bloodedly targeted and killed on purpose
in such a way never seen or imagined before! The most appalling and
shocking massacre was when a bus carrying about 25 villagers from
Marwaheen was hit by a rocket. They were fleeing their village following
an Israeli threat and the UNIFL refused to shelter them! No one of them
remained alive! The region of Dahieh (Beirut southern suburb) was
completely devastated like Hiroshima… Its inhabitants, or those who are
still alive, are fleeing to other regions where public and private schools
establishments opened their door to give them refuge…
In light of the foregoing, I feel that words are useless or have lost
their meaning….
I am not sure what I am asking for exactly…I don’t know if you are aware
that the UN meeting on Thursday did not lead to a decision to a
cease-fire, which I perceive as contradictory with the very definition of
the UN.
All I want is my rights as a human being. What I am asking for is that no
matter what the problem is, it should be solved outside the scope of a
war.
Is there anything our community of young people can do? Would the
governments of the world listen to the voices of the next generation? I
really don’t know what I am asking for, but I know I am asking for help.
Thank you for reading this, it would already mean a lot to me.
LeMSIC, with the help of some IFMSA Officials has prepared a petition, to
be sent to the UN, UN Security Council, EU, and other NGOs, institutions
and councils working in the field of Human Rights and Peace.
To access and sign the petition, please click on
http://www.petitiononline.com/…..ition.html
Let’s make a stand for humanity, let’s make a stand against war, let’s
make a stand against crimes..
Please forward to all your members, friends, and families..
God Bless Lebanon
Lara M.N. El-Zahabi, MD
President – LeMSIC
Lebanese Medical Students’ International Committee
Vice-President – IFMSA
International Federation of Medical Students’ Associations
(snipped to remove private phone numbers and personal address is Beirut)
IFMSA General Secretariat
c/o World Medical Association
BP 63
012 12 Ferney-Voltaire Cedex
France
CBS in Beirut: French ship has taken 37 Americans out of Beirut already; US has helicoptered out 64 so far.
Ponder that.
it wouldn’t have been pretty, lotus.
they don’t care about us regular americans– only the fetuses and the incumbents and the power. life, other than their own, is cheap and expendable.
Name any other situation where 25,000 Americans in harms way would not be an absolute outrage!
New Orleans, Hurricane Katrina. That was hundreds of thousands left to fend for themselves. Over 1300 confirmed dead Americans from that bit of government neglect.
Eureka,
Just using it as a (bad) example of 25,000 people being in harms way and our gov’t not giving a damn.Outrageous doesn’t seem to be strong enough.
about speedily evacuating U.S. citizens from a dangerous war zone — just hold your horses! don’t you know we are fighting the Global War on Terror in Iraq and Lebanon is awfully far away ?
New Thread. And I got me a zero.
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..t/#respond
new thread — more Nedalicious stuff
siun, I signed the petition in my full legal name and sent your comment to all in my address book who might be even vaguely moved.
I hope it helps.
OT – CBS doing “the open-mike” moment, with “s__t” in the subtitle and “sh” in the audio.
Lotus … signed on as well and sharing the petition … if you click through to the site of the lebanese medical students, the intro is such a sad sight given the latest news.
http://www.lemsic.org
siun, if you want the truth, I’ve never supposed that petition-signing does a lick of good, and don’t expect that this one will either. I signed as a representative of my country. I hope that thousands of us will do so in the same spirit that you and I did.
Jane, have you seen Bob Englehart’s, Hartford Courant political cartoonist, spoof on Lieberman’s new party name — http://img143.imageshack.us/im…..artei1.jpg
This picture speaks a thousand words and none good for HoJo.
Go to My Left Nutmeg diary “Cartoons” http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/sh…..aryId=2158 for more spoofs on Lieberman.
Ned is such a squeaky clean, wholesome guy, new to politics with no record to attack. How does going negative gain any traction?
To bob h,
Republicans could make Jesus look like Satan and Lieberman is using Republican attack tactics. Just look at Lieberman being obsessed over Lamont’s tax returns. They’re trying to use it to depict Lamont has dishonest. And even when Lamont gives them the tax returns, they attack him for being late in delivering them and will intentionally take out of context stuff in the tax return.
Republicans, as in the Swift Boat Liars, have no qualms with using straight lies to attack Democrats, and Lieberman has already shown he has no problem with using Republican attack strategies.