Comments on: Here We Go Again… http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:14:14 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: felicity smith http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-194767 felicity smith Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:02:54 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-194767 <p>It doesn’t make linguistic sense to talk about a “war” if there is no possibility of winning. War on Drugs: War on Poverty: War on Crime come to mind. (War seems definitely entrenched in the American lexicon) Nor does it make linguistic sense to talk about a “war” if there is no possibility of losing as is the case in Iraq where the US Air Force with conventional weapons could reduce every Iraqi city to rubble within a few months. Since “war” seems to be the operative word, however, how about War on Government?</p> It doesn’t make linguistic sense to talk about a “war” if there is no possibility of winning. War on Drugs: War on Poverty: War on Crime come to mind. (War seems definitely entrenched in the American lexicon) Nor does it make linguistic sense to talk about a “war” if there is no possibility of losing as is the case in Iraq where the US Air Force with conventional weapons could reduce every Iraqi city to rubble within a few months. Since “war” seems to be the operative word, however, how about War on Government?

]]> By: Che’s Lounge http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-194276 Che’s Lounge Tue, 18 Jul 2006 13:33:15 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-194276 <p>Lebanon 1980’s. Christian militias acting like Iraq’s Negroponte death squads. Since then, Syrian forces have kept the peace there for 20 years. Now they have a christian government again, kicked out the Syrians, and this is what they get.</p> <p>Syrians = 20 years of stability<br /> Christians = sectarian war</p> <p>From Dr. Strangelove:</p> <p>“I think the auto destruct system got hit and blew itself up.”</p> Lebanon 1980’s. Christian militias acting like Iraq’s Negroponte death squads. Since then, Syrian forces have kept the peace there for 20 years. Now they have a christian government again, kicked out the Syrians, and this is what they get.

Syrians = 20 years of stability
Christians = sectarian war

From Dr. Strangelove:

“I think the auto destruct system got hit and blew itself up.”

]]> By: fourmorewars http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-194272 fourmorewars Tue, 18 Jul 2006 13:26:45 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-194272 <p>Typical rightwing ignorant moron. What a fuckwit you are, Jose. The Christians had no part in tearing apart the structure of Lebanon? Among other things, you never heard of Sabra and Chatilla? Look them up, and please take your ASTOUNDING ignorance elsewhere.</p> Typical rightwing ignorant moron. What a fuckwit you are, Jose. The Christians had no part in tearing apart the structure of Lebanon? Among other things, you never heard of Sabra and Chatilla? Look them up, and please take your ASTOUNDING ignorance elsewhere.

]]> By: Jose Chung http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-194072 Jose Chung Tue, 18 Jul 2006 05:22:39 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-194072 <p>Yes, Christians were once the dominant population in Lebanon before the country was ruined by Islamic murderers.</p> Yes, Christians were once the dominant population in Lebanon before the country was ruined by Islamic murderers.

]]> By: fourmorewars http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-194030 fourmorewars Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:58:05 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-194030 <p><a href="http://www.persecution.org/newsite/countryinfodetail.php?countrycode=24">http://www.persecution.org/new.....trycode=24</a></p> <p>10% would be about 1.8 million in Damascus.</p> <p>Nuke away, christofascists!</p> <p>Then go burn in hell, you ignorant scum.</p> http://www.persecution.org/new…..trycode=24

10% would be about 1.8 million in Damascus.

Nuke away, christofascists!

Then go burn in hell, you ignorant scum.

]]> By: fourmorewars http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-194022 fourmorewars Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:54:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-194022 <p>Dunno if this thread is dead or what, but if it hasn’t been brought up, may I suggest we get it circulating up where the wingnuts can’t ignore it, that, apparently, there are a couple of million Christians living in Damascus?</p> <p>‘Least that’s what I read a year or so ago, from someone on the left, commenting on a rightwing Nevada congressman’s slobbering advocacy of nuking the place.</p> Dunno if this thread is dead or what, but if it hasn’t been brought up, may I suggest we get it circulating up where the wingnuts can’t ignore it, that, apparently, there are a couple of million Christians living in Damascus?

‘Least that’s what I read a year or so ago, from someone on the left, commenting on a rightwing Nevada congressman’s slobbering advocacy of nuking the place.

]]> By: Adie http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-193785 Adie Tue, 18 Jul 2006 02:16:57 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-193785 <p>just back from nice quiet eve with hubby - our 41st anniv. And whaddawe do? laugh our heads off at Keillor’s movie “Prairie Home Comp.” Good therapy! If you haven’t seen it, oh DO!;-></p> <p>Half way thru the movie, dang if that nekkidemperor didn’t suddenly intrude in my thots. Finally struck me like a ton of bricks. I honestly, truly, think he was so weird at the G8 because he’s over-the-top fed-up, and absolutely does NOT want to play preznit any more. Sitting sprawled in that banquet chair chomping on that biscuit and spitting venom along with the crumbs. Close your eyes and picture a totally spoiled, nasty little brat, flopping down screaming and pounding the floor, holding his breath till he turns purple, unless & until mommy makes all the [bad stuff] go away.</p> <p>That’s gonna be a l-o-n-g l-o-n-g “8 hour” flight back to Prairie Chapel Ranch, u-betcha.<br /> NEVER has he looked and acted THAT bad in public, since he was installed in ofc. Good gosh. What are we in for?!</p> <p>Dr. Strangelove was the perfect graphic to use right now. That brat’s NOT going to tackle any of the problems on his plate. He’ll throw the whole table over 1st. He doesn’t bloomin’ CARE what happens. At least that’s the very clear signal I’m picking up. I hope I’m wrong.</p> <p>Whyohwhy didn’t his momma discipline the little *** when he was little, instead of helping him blow up those poor hapless frogs?</p> just back from nice quiet eve with hubby – our 41st anniv. And whaddawe do? laugh our heads off at Keillor’s movie “Prairie Home Comp.” Good therapy! If you haven’t seen it, oh DO!;->

Half way thru the movie, dang if that nekkidemperor didn’t suddenly intrude in my thots. Finally struck me like a ton of bricks. I honestly, truly, think he was so weird at the G8 because he’s over-the-top fed-up, and absolutely does NOT want to play preznit any more. Sitting sprawled in that banquet chair chomping on that biscuit and spitting venom along with the crumbs. Close your eyes and picture a totally spoiled, nasty little brat, flopping down screaming and pounding the floor, holding his breath till he turns purple, unless & until mommy makes all the [bad stuff] go away.

That’s gonna be a l-o-n-g l-o-n-g “8 hour” flight back to Prairie Chapel Ranch, u-betcha.
NEVER has he looked and acted THAT bad in public, since he was installed in ofc. Good gosh. What are we in for?!

Dr. Strangelove was the perfect graphic to use right now. That brat’s NOT going to tackle any of the problems on his plate. He’ll throw the whole table over 1st. He doesn’t bloomin’ CARE what happens. At least that’s the very clear signal I’m picking up. I hope I’m wrong.

Whyohwhy didn’t his momma discipline the little *** when he was little, instead of helping him blow up those poor hapless frogs?

]]> By: Richmond http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-193537 Richmond Tue, 18 Jul 2006 00:13:06 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-193537 <p>Jane and Christy, thanks for letting us discuss, vent, engage in the current Middle east war issues. I just read Kos and he basically is saying, he grew up in a war zone, and the fighting will stop when in the Middle East combatants are tired of fighting. I think it is more complex than that by a million. This conflagration continues to be fueled in significant ways by U.S. policy (present and past) and we have a moral responsibility to engage (as citizens and as a nation) through what ever means we can - including speaking out. Most wars have ended either in the complete victory of one culture (nation) over the other, or in outside powers coming in to broker a peace or truce. If the idea is to let this one burn until it is out of wood, it may very will end up in a real WWIII with the Mid-East against the West, and Israel itself as the main (and most bloody) battle ground.</p> Jane and Christy, thanks for letting us discuss, vent, engage in the current Middle east war issues. I just read Kos and he basically is saying, he grew up in a war zone, and the fighting will stop when in the Middle East combatants are tired of fighting. I think it is more complex than that by a million. This conflagration continues to be fueled in significant ways by U.S. policy (present and past) and we have a moral responsibility to engage (as citizens and as a nation) through what ever means we can – including speaking out. Most wars have ended either in the complete victory of one culture (nation) over the other, or in outside powers coming in to broker a peace or truce. If the idea is to let this one burn until it is out of wood, it may very will end up in a real WWIII with the Mid-East against the West, and Israel itself as the main (and most bloody) battle ground.

]]> By: ironranger http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-193447 ironranger Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:26:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-193447 <p>Rush doesn’t know his whole audience as well as he thinks he does. A large portion of his listeners, those white, pickup drivin, huntin, fishin, beer-drinkin guys going for apocalypse talk & endless war? Hell, no, not the ones I know. They do have their limits & this would be it.</p> Rush doesn’t know his whole audience as well as he thinks he does. A large portion of his listeners, those white, pickup drivin, huntin, fishin, beer-drinkin guys going for apocalypse talk & endless war? Hell, no, not the ones I know. They do have their limits & this would be it.

]]> By: Millineryman http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-193426 Millineryman Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:14:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/17/here-we-go-again-2/#comment-193426 <p>Well the State Dept is charging people to get the out of Lebanon<br /> <a href="http://beirut.usembassy.gov/lebanon/Lebanon_Situation_Update.html">http://beirut.usembassy.gov/le.....pdate.html</a></p> <p>Frontpage Headline<br /> Lebanon Situation Update - July 15, 2006<br /> July 15, 2006</p> <p>This information is current as of today, Sat Jul 15 12:20:12 2006.</p> <p>A message to the American citizens in Lebanon:</p> <p>The Department of State continues to work with the Department of Defense on a plan to help American citizens depart Lebanon. As of the morning of July 15, we are looking at how we might transport Americans to Cyprus. Once in Cyprus, Americans can then board commercial aircraft for onward travel. Commercial airlines provide the safest and most efficient repatriation options to final destinations.</p> <p>The Department of State reminds American citizens that the U.S. government does not provide no-cost transportation but does have the authority to provide repatriation loans to those in financial need. For the portion of your trip directly handled by the U.S. Government we will ask you to sign a promissory note and we will bill you at a later date. In a subsequent message, when we have specific details about the transporation arrangments, we will inform you about the costs you will incur. We will also work with commercial aircraft to ensure that they have adequate flights to help you depart Cyprus and connect to your final destination.</p> <p>The Department of State continues to work around the clock and will continue to send updates as appropriate.</p> Well the State Dept is charging people to get the out of Lebanon
http://beirut.usembassy.gov/le…..pdate.html

Frontpage Headline
Lebanon Situation Update – July 15, 2006
July 15, 2006

This information is current as of today, Sat Jul 15 12:20:12 2006.

A message to the American citizens in Lebanon:

The Department of State continues to work with the Department of Defense on a plan to help American citizens depart Lebanon. As of the morning of July 15, we are looking at how we might transport Americans to Cyprus. Once in Cyprus, Americans can then board commercial aircraft for onward travel. Commercial airlines provide the safest and most efficient repatriation options to final destinations.

The Department of State reminds American citizens that the U.S. government does not provide no-cost transportation but does have the authority to provide repatriation loans to those in financial need. For the portion of your trip directly handled by the U.S. Government we will ask you to sign a promissory note and we will bill you at a later date. In a subsequent message, when we have specific details about the transporation arrangments, we will inform you about the costs you will incur. We will also work with commercial aircraft to ensure that they have adequate flights to help you depart Cyprus and connect to your final destination.

The Department of State continues to work around the clock and will continue to send updates as appropriate.

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