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	<title>Comments on: Late Nite FDL:  Punks (Take A Bow, Howie)</title>
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		<title>By: Joey D&#8217;Kaye</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/16/late-nite-fdl-punks-take-a-bow-howie/#comment-194188</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey D&#8217;Kaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 08:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry I didn’t discover this thread earlier! Jane, I didn’t know you were a denizen of Mabuhay Gardens back in the glory days of punk rock. Now your picture looks familiar… seems like a lot of us from the SF scene have checked in on this thread!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Back in the day I was “Joey D’Kaye” — I played in Crime from 1979 to 1981.  Frankie Fix and Brittley Black are also on the now longer with us list. Nice to see you and Howie (I remember his “Jack Basher” live music column in the S.F. Examiner) are still making trouble for the powers that be… The Nuns are doing sex shows in NYC, V. Vale is still alive and putting out ReSearch. Not everyone has OD’d in the crapper…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I didn’t discover this thread earlier! Jane, I didn’t know you were a denizen of Mabuhay Gardens back in the glory days of punk rock. Now your picture looks familiar… seems like a lot of us from the SF scene have checked in on this thread!</p>
<p>Back in the day I was “Joey D’Kaye” — I played in Crime from 1979 to 1981.  Frankie Fix and Brittley Black are also on the now longer with us list. Nice to see you and Howie (I remember his “Jack Basher” live music column in the S.F. Examiner) are still making trouble for the powers that be… The Nuns are doing sex shows in NYC, V. Vale is still alive and putting out ReSearch. Not everyone has OD’d in the crapper…</p>
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		<title>By: Marisacat &#187; &#8216;&#8217;Not ready to make nice&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marisacat &#187; &#8216;&#8217;Not ready to make nice&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 00:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[…] hmmm. First blog (or should I say Blahhggg) listed is FDL and I followed the link, but I see no mention of Wapo DA article.  Perhaps in the thread.  I certainly recall the time and place mentioned in the post at FDL… Mabuhay Gardens on Broadway… started as a Filipino owned food and drink place and morphed to be a hot spot for the punk scene around ‘78, ‘79, ‘80. […]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] hmmm. First blog (or should I say Blahhggg) listed is FDL and I followed the link, but I see no mention of Wapo DA article.  Perhaps in the thread.  I certainly recall the time and place mentioned in the post at FDL… Mabuhay Gardens on Broadway… started as a Filipino owned food and drink place and morphed to be a hot spot for the punk scene around ‘78, ‘79, ‘80. […]</p>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
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		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;pach - it’s all good!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pach &#8211; it’s all good!</p>
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		<title>By: bugsy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/16/late-nite-fdl-punks-take-a-bow-howie/#comment-192729</link>
		<dc:creator>bugsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I also remember the night (at the Mab)&lt;br /&gt;
when we trussed Dirk up onstage and&lt;br /&gt;
a tall beautiful redheaded girl&lt;br /&gt;
whipped him… then he was depantsed&lt;br /&gt;
down to his tighty whiteys.&lt;br /&gt;
That night I almost punched Ginger Coyote&lt;br /&gt;
out for sneaking up behind me and goosing&lt;br /&gt;
me.&lt;br /&gt;
But remember kids, violence isn’t nice,&lt;br /&gt;
but being rowdy in fun is OK.&lt;br /&gt;
And Dirk did rehearse that bit.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also remember the night (at the Mab)<br />
when we trussed Dirk up onstage and<br />
a tall beautiful redheaded girl<br />
whipped him… then he was depantsed<br />
down to his tighty whiteys.<br />
That night I almost punched Ginger Coyote<br />
out for sneaking up behind me and goosing<br />
me.<br />
But remember kids, violence isn’t nice,<br />
but being rowdy in fun is OK.<br />
And Dirk did rehearse that bit.</p>
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		<title>By: bugsy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/16/late-nite-fdl-punks-take-a-bow-howie/#comment-192679</link>
		<dc:creator>bugsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hello Howie—&lt;br /&gt;
Are you the same Howie that used to have an&lt;br /&gt;
office on Moss Street at Folsom in SF???&lt;br /&gt;
My friends Will (RIP) and Jerri lived&lt;br /&gt;
a few doors down. And hung out at the&lt;br /&gt;
Mab a lot. I also wnt there a lot with&lt;br /&gt;
my friend Detrick (RIP). What memories.&lt;br /&gt;
Sad to say, I’ve lost so many great friends&lt;br /&gt;
from that era to AIDS and overdoses and&lt;br /&gt;
accidents. So it’s always great to recognize&lt;br /&gt;
someone who’s around and doing well!&lt;br /&gt;
I’m verklemt!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Howie—<br />
Are you the same Howie that used to have an<br />
office on Moss Street at Folsom in SF???<br />
My friends Will (RIP) and Jerri lived<br />
a few doors down. And hung out at the<br />
Mab a lot. I also wnt there a lot with<br />
my friend Detrick (RIP). What memories.<br />
Sad to say, I’ve lost so many great friends<br />
from that era to AIDS and overdoses and<br />
accidents. So it’s always great to recognize<br />
someone who’s around and doing well!<br />
I’m verklemt!!!</p>
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		<title>By: lotus</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/16/late-nite-fdl-punks-take-a-bow-howie/#comment-192652</link>
		<dc:creator>lotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;More thanks for that infoclrghse link, siun!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More thanks for that infoclrghse link, siun!</p>
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		<title>By: Pachacutec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pachacutec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;punaise:  My goodness!  Email me.  I’m clueless and have no recollection of those old discussions except now that you mention them.  If you imagine that’s how I operate. . . well, I don’t.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My error yesterday was simpler:  I did not read your link, only your intro to it, which for some reasons looked like you were being OT in a “drive by.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fault was mine, and since I got pulled into family stuff, I lost track and did not own up to my error.  Sorry!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>punaise:  My goodness!  Email me.  I’m clueless and have no recollection of those old discussions except now that you mention them.  If you imagine that’s how I operate. . . well, I don’t.</p>
<p>My error yesterday was simpler:  I did not read your link, only your intro to it, which for some reasons looked like you were being OT in a “drive by.”</p>
<p>The fault was mine, and since I got pulled into family stuff, I lost track and did not own up to my error.  Sorry!</p>
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		<title>By: siun</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/16/late-nite-fdl-punks-take-a-bow-howie/#comment-192630</link>
		<dc:creator>siun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;re: ME news - I try very hard to remember that we have serious problems with MSM coverage of issues we are knowledgeable about - all the more reason to use local resources like Lebanese blogs and papers as well as sources like Gush Shalom instead of the US MSM (and Brits) which have an even greater fallibility when covering the middle east.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, the Fisk at Antiwar.com (what I see out my window) is from last Thurs or Fri I believe - use Information Clearing House for daily updates including almost all Fisk articles (as well as Chomsky, etc) … the email update is very useful and the range of articles linked is astonishing:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/&quot;&gt;http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
yesterday included significant military analysis from Stratfor along with numerous useful articles.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: ME news &#8211; I try very hard to remember that we have serious problems with MSM coverage of issues we are knowledgeable about &#8211; all the more reason to use local resources like Lebanese blogs and papers as well as sources like Gush Shalom instead of the US MSM (and Brits) which have an even greater fallibility when covering the middle east.</p>
<p>Also, the Fisk at Antiwar.com (what I see out my window) is from last Thurs or Fri I believe &#8211; use Information Clearing House for daily updates including almost all Fisk articles (as well as Chomsky, etc) … the email update is very useful and the range of articles linked is astonishing:<br />
<a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/">http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/</a><br />
yesterday included significant military analysis from Stratfor along with numerous useful articles.</p>
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		<title>By: John Casper</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/16/late-nite-fdl-punks-take-a-bow-howie/#comment-192627</link>
		<dc:creator>John Casper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;new thread: “Any Questions”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>new thread: “Any Questions”</p>
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		<title>By: siun</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/16/late-nite-fdl-punks-take-a-bow-howie/#comment-192622</link>
		<dc:creator>siun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Wapo link above (awesome set of links Lotus) includes this lovely insight into W’s approach to his job:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“It’s not clear what offer he was referring to. Blair made a reference during the conversation to laying some groundwork before the trip, so that Rice could deliver something concrete. “See, if she goes out, she’s got to succeed, as it were, whereas I can just go out and talk,” he said.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and the comments at the news posts here:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://lebanesebloggers.blogspot.com/?1153141866&quot;&gt;http://lebanesebloggers.blogspot.com/?1153141866&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
are fascinating since they include both Israeli and Lebanese commenters attempting to maintain contact and sanity.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wapo link above (awesome set of links Lotus) includes this lovely insight into W’s approach to his job:</p>
<p>“It’s not clear what offer he was referring to. Blair made a reference during the conversation to laying some groundwork before the trip, so that Rice could deliver something concrete. “See, if she goes out, she’s got to succeed, as it were, whereas I can just go out and talk,” he said.”</p>
<p>and the comments at the news posts here:<br />
<a href="http://lebanesebloggers.blogspot.com/?1153141866">http://lebanesebloggers.blogspot.com/?1153141866</a><br />
are fascinating since they include both Israeli and Lebanese commenters attempting to maintain contact and sanity.</p>
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