Login HereMy political history with Howie Klein dates back to the mayoral campaign of our mutual friend Jello Biafra in San Francisco when we were all hanging out at the Mabuhay Gardens. It's so much fun to have hooked up with Howie again in the blogosphere (via, it must be said, Johnny Angel) and watch him make such a difference in so many progressive campaigns with his Blue America column. His sincere efforts to seek out and vet progressive candidates, have them here to discuss their campaigns at FDL, and spur their fundraising efforts with free CDs has made an incredible difference in campaigns that have been largely ignored (nay discouraged) by the DCCC.
Yesterday Howie had Coleen Rowley (MN-2) in for chat with readers, and today Coleen wrote this thank-you note:
Oh wow!!! Thanks so much, Mr. Klein! As you probably know, politics as it is currently practiced, is aptly described as "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly." Since "the bad" and "the ugly" are already two thirds, it takes a lot of "good" to balance things. But it's amazingly real people like you (and David Bailey who traveled over an hour and a half through Montgomery parade traffic just to help transcribe) who do just that - make the good win out over the bad and the ugly!
And when I and 14 other ethically-minded Democrats are elected in November, we'll really go to work on the bad and ugly parts. Thanks so much for the help! Now I've got to go set the alarm for 5 am so I can get to tomorrow's district bus stop to hand out our campaign's educational bookmark. By my calculations, this Act Blue money will buy about 60,000 bookmarks which, if we could dispense them all properly, would reach about 1/6 of all the people in the 2nd District. Unfortunately, I always end up handing out a lot of them to the 4 year olds with outstretched hands who line the parades so ANY and ALL FURTHER HELP will be appreciated. THANKS AGAIN!! Coleen R.
Howie even maintains a good relationship with the folks at the DCCC, who have been known to link to his chats on occasion. He's a truly remarkable person.
Anyway, in honor of Howie, Biafra and the long history of progressive politics (and opposition to public morality scolds like Joe Lieberman) that came out of the SF punk scene, here is Biafra on net neutrality (MP3 ).
(Hat tip mcjoan for the Biafra link, and a shout out to David Bailey who was one of my very first blogging friends, since retired to the Rowley campaign.)
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Fitz?
Ooo, The Magic Zero…
looks like you’ve got the place to yourself, Eli
Just a note to remind everyone to stay tuned to Bradblog this week. The Busby/Bilbray CA 50 HAND COUNT (Don’t let em spin it as a “recount.) IS on ant it’s gonna get hot!
50 Ways To Dump The Dubya
“Never say never”
(Romeo Void)
50 Ways
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Wow. Quiet in here. I’ve never been this early in an FDL thread before.
It’s a little spooky.
Ummm. yay Howie. My credit card’s forgiven you for driving me to excess yesterday because it was for such a good cause.
Plus, someone else bought me lunch today, so karma balances out…
Ummm. yay Howie.
Amen. Three cheers for Howie!
Yes, Jane, it was great to have Coleen on, and it certainly loosened up my pocketbook.
Someone needs to repost the Act Blue web link so that others may donate.
j’all see this, via Raw Story?:
Howie Rocks! He’s been so cool popping into the IL state project list to offer help and ideas … Thanks Howie!
and thanks Jane for the Jello!
What Sen. Boxer is doing is a total invalidation of one of our main values. Right now the war is a more important issue than choice.
Um, Joe sucks on *both*.
All hail the Fab Mab!
I knew some good would come out of there :)
Ness Aquino, the guy who owned the Mab was a cousin of Benigno Aquino. At least that is what Ness said.
Howie Klein is certainly doing good work now.
Amen.
go firedogs! Must sleep now…been waiting tooo late for late night…sleepy over here.
my political history with howie klein dates back to the mayoral campaign of our mutual friend jello biafra in san francisco when we were all hanging out at the mabuhay gardens.
i actually did stand up comedy at the mabuhay gardens, in between punk rock acts, back when i had hair.
skippy - next you’re gonna tell us you did improv at the Holy City Zoo….
Howie is so fab. I knew I knew his name from somewhere and then read on his blog how he used to be on KSAN. Boy did that bring back some memories.
Prof–that’s a great idea
http://www.actblue.com/page/blueamerica
Jane—I remember reading that something was in the works, but when did FDL, DWT, and C&L merge into one ActBlue site? Its a fabulous idea and kudos are due to all of you for working that magic.
Yep, Howie was on KSAN. He’s always been very enthusiastic about the stuff he’s enthusiastic about.
Aquino brings to mind Mrs. Marcos, whom I invoked tangentially, for no good reason, in a Malkin rap contest entry:
conflate the great? you wait
I meld a Markos, fools
free/dumb’s just another word
for nothin’ left but shoes
Malkin rap winner will be up tomorrow night. TRex to judge.
heh - the mere mention of M*lkin (?) warrants moderstion. sorry, moderator, no rush.
If ccmask is till around, I’m shitting myself that Robert Novak wrote the earmark column I was going to write.
You stick around here long enough, all sorts of things happen you would never anticipate
funny timing Jane - been meaning to inquire about that, but you’ve had a few other things on your plate lately, so tongues have generally been bitten….
Howie is the best of the best.
-kc
Tuesday night we get rap contest results.
Tomorrow night I have a special Primary Eve valentine to Ralph Reed planned.
Novakula channeling our Jane — now that’s one for the record books!
Howie puts the best music into the TOOBZ as well. And Jello Biafra is a legend in my house. When I first started coming here and catching the vibe I had no idea I would have so much history in common via the musical connections via FDL. This place is magical in that regard.
Oh I forgot about Ralph Reed, TRex. And I’m looking forward to it so much!
I didn’t realize the party had moved to the kitchen, so I’m reposting. Just think, minutes ago it WAS on topic.
http://static.flickr.com/55/19.....f5d8_o.jpg
And I don’t even like coffee.
Oh I forgot about Ralph Reed, TRex. And I’m looking forward to it so much!
Where do you even begin with Reedy, though? He’s on a mission from God to keep all lefty satirists in high cotton through the elections in November. I intend to help him fulfill that mission.
currently listening to the Dire Straits / Mark Knofler CD Howie sent for an ActBlue donation - great stuff that holds up pretty well to the test of time
Sad to think the Mabuhay is now The Velvet Lounge.
EPU, your cup runneth over!
EPU - nothing but dregs at the bottom of those mugs
I love everything Knopfler does. I think my favorite is the soundtrack he did to the movie Local Hero.
Thanks for the kind words. I have to tell you, though, that when Jane found me I was blogging and scratching my head trying to figure out how people made those nice blue underlines that linked to things. She actually told me what html is and taught me how to do it while I was holding her poodle’s leash. AND, she also told me about Daily Kos (which I had never heard of even though I was “blogging” for 3 or 4 months!)
Take a look at the brand new– as of tonight– combined Firedoglake, Crooks and Liars. Down With Tyranny ACT BLUE Page. And then YOU all take a bow. We’re going to help some candidates get elected this November, folks!
Punaise—if you haven’t already, check out the Mark Knopfler/Emmylou Harris duo CD. The combination of both his guitar and voice with her vocals is impressive.
I actually think you could raise a lot of Ned money with those mugs, although I would add the word “steaming” to it in that case.
I’m just about sleepified. Howie has done us all proud. I was REALLY impressed w/Rowley. But then, seems like we’re blessed by Howie’s friends over and over.
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I’ve tweaked Google News ‘personal-pagely’ to show special sections for ‘Ned Lamont’, ‘Apple Computer’ and ‘NSA domestic spying’.
Imagine my surprise when the local rag ran this editoral on Specter’s solution ‘compromise’ on NSA:
http://www.masslive.com/editor.....amp;coll=1
I’m determined to rebut this via LTE. Haven’t quite figuered out the tack to take. What’s the word quota? 150? I remember Ed*ard Teller looking for advice re: coulter. I don’t have a word yet, but any feedback would be helpful. Will looky-see in AM. Thanks all.
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Jane Hamsher and Jello Baifra…whoodathunkit?
I woulda said, “Who could have imagined…” but that’s gauche.
…keep all lefty satirists in high cotton through the elections in November
TRex - would it be regionally and historically impolitic to encourage you to keep your cotton-pickin’ hands on the subject of our ethically challenged pal Ralphie?
Go Skippy! I was a bit young for that scene (and on the other coast), but I did get to play the Mab once, with Bad Posture or Fang or some band like that.
RBG - thanks for the tip. There’s one track from that album on disk 2 of the compilation; haven’t got to it yet.
We do owe a lot to Jello Biafra for his hard work keeping Tipper Gore out of the White House.
(the Law of Unforeseen Consequences is a pain, isn’t it?)
the Dead Kennedys - now there’s a provocative band name for ya. the essence of punk.
My older sister was good friends with a (”the,” I don’t know) girlfriend of Jello’s in the late eighties/early nineties - don’t know whatever became of the relationship.
EPU — is that your graphic handiwork? I want to know who to credit.
May get used with that Novak article. I’m still reeling.
I figure I am about 8-10 years too young for the SanFran punk scene Howie and Jane were in, but I tell you what, without Howie my musical education in Indiana would be thoroughly incomplete without his indie label’s entire catalogue.
Buying Poppo Pies and Romeo Void via mail order out of Maximum Rock N Roll was sometimes the only thing that kept me from losing my mind while John Mellencamp was played endlessly on every Hoosier radio station. My idiot classmates thought Bob Seger was tops while I was punked out in my bedroom, subversively playing the strange alien music from the West Coast that made anyone I would play it for CERTAIN I was insane. Thanks Howie, you are the man!
My favorite band name of that era is ‘the snot puppys” .
Howie—hope you caught my kudos above, and sorry about leaking your announce, but that merger is great news. It just make (y)our efforts that much stronger.
The graphics are more fun then studying, and since I follow the Faber maxim that “knowledge is good,” studying CorelDraw and Paint is a worthy diversion. Although if I knew it had a chance for the big time, I really would have gone with “How about a nice hot steaming cup of shut the fuck up,” AND paid more attention to perspective on the writing to make it look like it actually was printed on the cup - an artist who isn’t self-critical is not an artist.
Shorter me - Yes, it is my work, but the Joe picture and the coffee cup picture were eacj cribbed from Yahoo images.
so close to bed, this is typde w/o glasses…
Forgot link I saw from Ed*ard Teller’s homestate re: Stevens Toobz…
http://www.adn.com/front/story.....0858c.html
It’ s sorta snarky funny, noting the ‘Toobz’ meme, etc.
A good read.
Thinking of you ET.
It’ s sorta snarky funny, noting the ‘Toobz’ meme, etc.
In the unlikely event that I ever write a Net Neutrality post, I shall have to title it “Tubethumping”.
Howie — the BA page looks fab-u. Glad to know that not all mergers are bad….
Hard to imagine that a bunch of nasty bloggers in their pajamas have raised that much money. Oh, and I envy your html lesson, I’m just now mastering the bold.
(I get bogged down, but I connect again…)
Biafra!
Way to go Jane for the DK video. I always enjoy seeing him speak whennever he does tours. Oh yes, and his music rocks too!
I once coined a name for a fictitious punk band: Bile Means
(By All Means)
closest I ever got to playing punk was drumming in Mako and the Medflies, a short-lived garage/cover band in Silicon Valley before it was called that. “Pump it Up” (Costello), “The Midnight Hour” (Roxy Music remake of … Wilson Pickett?) and various rock/pop new wave was about as edgy as we got. Except the one punkish original song penned by a bandmate: “We’re gonna have to change your behavior”
Needless to say, we all pursued other careers.
Eli - Don’t you mean you get blogged down, but get up again?
Eli - ChumbaWumba? or Jamiroquai?
Eli - Don’t you mean you get blogged down, but get up again?
When Blogger goes down, it tends to *stay* down for a while…
Eli - ChumbaWumba? or Jamiroquai?
Chumbawumba. We’ve progressed well beyond *virtual* insanity.
Good night gang — I’ve been reading and enjoying but had nothing interesting to say. Hope that’s not too creepy. I think you are all wonderful, and I’ll leave with this idea:
Wouldn’t it be neat if Spazeboy got some kind of budding liberal genius grant from this group?
(cracks me up the DLC was snubbed)
Eli 59 — yeah it was during one of the blogger extended “downs” I said “enough.” It took a while to find the right format, code and place and a lot of work but we are much, much happier where we are now.
RBG (#49)– not a problem. The Page is public now, although the big announcement comes Wednesday.
The Chumbawumba song in French is awesome. I was sitting at a table with Tony Blair’s wife at the UK equivalent of the Grammies when a Chumba dumped a bucket of water over the head of the Assistant Prime Minister (or some such title). It was a riot– literally.
yeah it was during one of the blogger extended “downs” I said “enough.”
What really ticked me off was when they took that extended outage that they promised would fix everything but… didn’t.
I’ve contemplated switching to Typepad, but I don’t think I have enough of a following that being down for a few hours (or days) is that much of a tragedy. So I’ll just stick with the devil I know.
still smarting from my book salon yellow card from Pach…..
Ooh, punaise got a yellow card from Pach? What the hell did you do?
probably made a punaise sammich during book club…..
So 4 more and you have to sit out for three Salon’s?
Poolboi got the DeeCee centrists to boo-hoo about Democracy Alliance and its “secretive” ways in tomorrow’s WaPo, front page:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00882.html
Blank Kludge, this editorial from the NYT has plenty of material for your LTE (although, in a newspaper called The Republican, will they publish it? Never mind, it’s worth a try.) http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07.....mp;ei=5070
If you want a more scholarly but still accessible take, try Balkinization; Marty Lederer, formerly of OLC, has done a bunch of good stuff on Arlene’s “compromise.” http://balkin.blogspot.com/#115301592036249984 Hope this helps.
it started here, then scroll down to 160 and 164-166
I just read that WaPo article, to me this sounds like if done correctly could be a good idea or it could be the left version of wingnut welfare. On the other hand, there really isnt something like the Democracy Alliance that funds the sort of organizations like the fascists have and if we are going to professionalize and counteract them we need similar outfits to do the training and advocacy work and academic research to support our efforts.
Hi Howie, and hi Kevin if you’re still here. I got the Charlie Pride CD. Now I guess I’ll have to find the portable CD player that (to my surprise) was included in the battery operated radio I got for hurricanes. It’s that time of year again, so I need to dig it out anyway. I’m not a rock fan, so I sit those discussions out, but I love C&W. Thanks!
Fini — I thought the article was funny, though, the way the reporters got so much from centrists in DC based organizations (those who man the gate we are crashing) about how the DA’s efforts were too liberal and secretive….
punaise, sorry about your yellow card, I just read the reference– and I have to say it seemed undeserved, but perhaps keeping book club commenting tidy is a bigger job than it appears. Maybe Pach was also communicating to the folks whose comments got moderated out of the discussion for being off-topic, and knew you could be the kid in the class who could handle being singled out….
oh, BarbaraB, I’m not a C&W fan, but that Charley Pride double CD is special. I played it most of the day on Friday….
Teddy
Well yeah I see what you mean, but if you think about it, there are not that many liberal groups in DC left anymore for reporters to go get quotes from. What little bit of blue tinged organizations there are are centrist groups, which is the point the Democracy Alliance is trying to make and amend the situation.
TSF - the funny thing is I was earnestly trying to make an on topic contribution; guess I didn’t provide enough context. That said, I did drop in out of nowhere without having read the book or followed the thread, so in that sense it was not unwarranted. No biggie; I’m sure it is quite a bit of work to keep things focused. Like you suggest, maybe I took one for the team…
gotta say nitey nite, folks, work beckons not far off in the morning…..
(actually I suspect Pach was returning the favor for a comment I made many weeks ago, in the cool-down/mop-up after a rare FDL flame war that he had been in the midst of: I beseeched him not to become “FDL’s Armando”. Said with attempted healing humor, but not sure if it was received the same way. :~)
speaking of salon, here’s the recent front-page article at salon.com:
Hey Barbara!
I’m here, just sporadic, lots of work to be done at all hours of the night!
-kc
There was a flame war and I missed it? Damn! I miss all the good stuff around here sometimes. A blog is not a real blog without the occasional flame war. I’ve only ever lost one flame war in my entire online career and that was because I was too doped on pain meds to maintain my sense of humor.
Fini, I don’t even recall what it was about, but it was not fun. Right after YKos and Jane’s mother passing away. Frayed nerves went “sproiiiing”.
G’night, Teddy. I hope your ’stang outing was completely wonderful. Bedtime for me, too. ‘Night, y’all.
Oh right, I vaguely remember some unpleasantness around that time. Well the peace has been restored and all is well again. We got sunshine in our end of the TOOBZ.
Barbara and Teddy, the Charlie Pride CD is just great!
I’m going to sound like a mom here for just a minute. Please if you are any kind of area where their might be a natural disaster for God’s sake put together an emergency kit. Remember we don’t have a disaster agency any more. Barbara you made me think of this talking about your battery radio. We bought one with a little crank, no batteries. We live in Seattle, funny I lived in HI for years and never thought about volcanos, but Mt. Rainier worries me. *grin*
kewalo - yep. in the Bay Area earthquake kits are de rigueur. Yet ours is in the garage, which will fall like a house of cards in a real big temblor.
Barbara and Teddy, the Charlie Pride CD is just great!
something else to look forward to. I got as far as removing the plastic wrapper.
Amazing,
Looking at this blog you’d think there was nothing of global importance going on anywhere in the world.
Thank G-d for James Wolcott, Billmon and a few other courageous libloggers who don’t take their cues (or funding) from the DNC.
I’m just gonna throw three words out there: Lebanon, Israel, Palestine.
(crickets chirping…tumbleweeds blowing…feet shuffling)
LOL Punaise, Maybe you should try and keep it a little closer. I don’t mean to be alarmist but we have to be able to take care of ourselves. More now then ever as the Bush the evil has ruined FEMA.
Fini — It wasn’t really a flame war. We were heavily infested with trolls, Jane was understandably occupied elsewhere, Christy was pulling double duty, and the moderators were exhausted. As you’ve probably realized, we have each others’ backs around here, but we maybe occasionally get a little too enthusiastic about smiting dragons that try to breathe their poisonous fumes at our heroines. As it turned out, that enthusiasm apparently made the moderators’ lives even more difficult. So you might call it a flame war on trolls that wound up unintentionally singeing some of our own. Profuse apologies were tendered and accepted, and calm returned to the lake. And now it really is bedtime.
BarbaraB - thanks for elaborating on that
You know what Sergei, sometimes when hit by outrage overload there’s nothing better then just BSing with nice people.
Not a damn thing we can do at midnight on a Sun night. And discussing is endlessly isn’t good for my spirits.
And I’ll put some money on it that Billmom and Wolcott are probably relaxing the same way we are, getting ready for another long, discouraging week.
…attended an “event” this weekend where more that half of the crowd was republican and I was shocked into silence at some of the conversations…one man was really smashed - actually a lot of them were by nights end - and he was spitting out the words that bush let him down, he is a jerk, he has ruined the country, he lied - and others were around him just staring and not arguing at all with his trashing of bush…after awhile I said, well, all of them are bad not just bush but he just looked really hard at me and said - no, I blame bush!…then he said- don’t get me going any more, I’m leaving - and he did…another person saw me coming and said before I could open my mouth- don’t mention his name or any of them, I don’t want my night ruined - I was very shocked at the despair and anger among these folks, a lot of them had gone for the war and bush too…I felt like, great! they finally get it and the damage is done and now their people are talking about WWIII…felt sick
Sergei
FDL policy is not to feed trolls. That said, you might want to read articles over the last weeks and months - they’re all there in archives - and check out comments before you castigate a caring, selfless, dedicated, patriotic (actually patriotic, not just the lapel pin-wearing types) collection of people.
We do delve deeply into these topics, but we also come up for air once in a while.
Might want to take a peek before you shoot yourself in the foot… again.
punaise & BarbaraB –
was that dustup what caused mfi to leave?
spiderpaws
They come crashing down hard, don’t they?
Lie down with dogs…
Ive noticed an uptick in the aforementioned trolls visiting to draw attention that no one on the blog known for its Plame case specialization is discussing the Clean Break Gameplan that Israel is following. Had they bothered to read the last week’s comments sections they would see it is being discussed to death nightly.
But then that would require more work from the AEI paid trolls who only read the main articles and dont bother with reading comments sections to see it IS being discussed. Do you go to your proctologist and ask for marriage counseling because your head is stuck up your ass with regards to your wife’s needs?
FDL specializes in a few subjects that it covers very well and throws in light coverage of everything else, drawing attention to other bloggers with more experience. NEXT!
Sergei, in particular, you might want to comb through past comment threads for comments by siun, angie, Oklahoma Kiddo, and several others whose names escape me at the moment.
The midday thread, before the book club, generated some rather heated comments about the current Mideast crisis — and there have been other discussions over the past few days.
The one thing we all agree on: Bush is totally screwing up on this — instead of tamping down the flames, he makes tasteless pig jokes and takes doofus bike rides. Instead of restoring the peace, he wants to use the crisis to start a new war.
Worst. President. Ever.
-ck-
I don’t recall. I had a little dust-up with mark from ireland a loooong time ago (late 2005) so I tended to keep my distance. siun would know.
(have I mentioned recently how dashing your new look is?)
…newtonusr: and bitter too but also very, very scared…I don’t feel one bit sorry for them…they wanted so hard to get in power they voted for a crook and the evidence of this was everywhere…
Punaise—the topic was about Luskin’s announcement that Fitz did not anticipate seeking charges against Rove. Its no wonder things got a little heated over that issue. And…IMHO, the South American referee was a little hasty with that yellow card earlier.
ck—the two incidents happened around the same time but were created by completely separate issues.
punaise –
I’m glad you like it — I do too. I thought about some clever handle, but that isn’t me — but the little wings with my initials is just right.
I liked mfi’s posts — never really interacted with him much, and missed the dustups. Always hate to see anyone leave with hurt feelings.
On the topic of hurt feelings — sometimes comments are made that are not well received, and the poster hears about it repeatedly. Personally, I feel it is better to let our hosts read the riot act as they see fit, and for us to watch their backs as needed. FDL has always been welcoming towards newcomers; one of the things I hate about rating systems is that that they encourage flame wars, and Lord of the Flies mob action.
A last thought about Armando — I loved his posts, and more often than not agreed with him. But man, was he thin skinned — he did not take criticism well, and he responded to everything. The best way to stop a flame war is to step away from the keyboard, and starve it for fuel.
I thought you feed a fever swamp and starve a cold?
spiderpaws
I’m gonna attack the new book by John Dean this week. It’s about the creation of the mindset that oversaw the building and growth, and the care and feeding of the authoritative crowd that’s in charge now. Seen numerous interviews with him, read reviews of the book - if I had allowed myself to be seduced by this bunch, to act on their calls to throw down with the ‘traitors’, and to vote for the very perps, shame would only be the first of many emotions I could expect to confront in the coming years. The damage they and theirs have wrought is only going to be calculable looking backwards, when our grandchildren are being recruited, struggling to find work and healthcare, a decent school for their kids, and confronted by a planet in utter turmoil.
Fuck them (steam flies out of ears), but love them, too.
RBG –
Oh man — Luskin and Fitz . . . bah, humbug, pootie!!!
There was a lot of leg gnawing over that, and I definitely had a bad attitude. But other than expressing my grumpy opinions, I didn’t get into it with anyone.
CK–I was trying to answer your question about mfi.
Gotta hit the hay folks, gnight!
-ck-
my only quibble about mfi’s intelligent and experience-grounded exhortations was his occasional tendency to, how shall I say, paint all Americans with a single brush re our ignorance of and errors in the Muslim world.
On the topic of hurt feelings — sometimes comments are made that are not well received, and the poster hears about it repeatedly. Personally, I feel it is better to let our hosts read the riot act as they see fit, and for us to watch their backs as needed. FDL has always been welcoming towards newcomers…
au contraire, I dare say one small aspect that (IMO) might help the hosts keep their sanity is that the comments are politley self-policing (looking for a better word but not finding it)- nudging as needed*. this allows them (again, IMO) to choose their moments to intervene. somethimes less is more.
*of course, that probably pales to the efforts of the behind-the-curtainers.
errr, spell-check.
*plouf*
…newtonusr: but so many of them are just sorry now because it is all going wrong and they are losing power…they never looked at the big picture or 40 years down the road…for them it is about having power now so I don’t think they will feel shame at all, they will just feel fucked and used…reflection? no, won’t happen for most…just anger
Feels appropriate, almost parental to step up and chase trolls. Good people put this place up, and we get to play here; leave it better than you found it (former scout). Jane, Christy, Pach, and all the mods aren’t up 24/7, and shouldn’t be. Self cleansing, maybe. Self-disinfecting…
Oh guys and gals - do not fade on me cause I’ve got a burning question. I’ve been bitch slapping Boxer around a lot lately yet at heart I was sure she’d awaken from her coma by now. My question primarily for Golden State firepups/lambs - what do you think about offering her a mercy meeting with blogger constituents cause she’s got a lot of explaining to do and sooner rather than later.
I read Tipping Point awhile ago and I want to believe she knows her time is short - let’s throw her a rope somehow and see what happens.
Started a letter to her earlier this evening but odds are she’ll never read it and her time is short and she needs to lead, follow or get out of the way. Call me crazy but I’m a sentimental old newspaperbrat and a sucker for happy endings.
What say you if anyone may still be here.
RBG –
Thanks for the mfi answer — the time and place explained a lot.
punaise –
I agree with you — nudging and gentle reminders and polite self-policing are a good thing. Sometimes offensive commenters demand to be smacked down, and they are generally obliged.
Oh well; enough for me — g’night all . . .
Anne Holliday
Oh guys and gals - do not fade on me cause I’ve got a burning question. I’ve been bitch slapping Boxer around a lot lately yet at heart I was sure she’d awaken from her coma by now. My question primarily for Golden State firepups/lambs - what do you think about offering her a mercy meeting with blogger constituents cause she’s got a lot of explaining to do and sooner rather than later.
I dipped back one last time to make amends for a neglected shout-out to Howie (*shout-out!*).
I’m with you in believing that Boxer is fundamentally good, just making a huge mistake wrt the blogs in general, and the Lieberman thing in particular. Your idea is intriguing, if you can get her ear.
Anne Holliday –
Definitely throw a rope to Barbara Boxer. She’s on our side 98% of the time, and in the big scheme of things, campaigning for HoJo probably isn’t that big a deal.
Ned Lamont and most of us have pledged to support the winner of the primary; if it’s HoJo, I believe a bottle of two buck Chuck is an appropriate wine for a plate of crow.
Seriously — cut Senator Boxer a lot of slack, but let her know where we stand — and why.
-ck-
campaigning for HoJo probably isn’t that big a deal.
now that is subject to vigorous debate! (foremost, because it gives some HoJo undeserved cover, and also for what it reveals about a certain astonishing cluelessness on her part)
and thus, bonne nuit.
spiderpaws
agreed. The drive to keep “my team” in power is like sexual prowess - alluring and empowering when held, and devastating when lost. Most who actually have a little (or a lot) of power as a result of these creeps being in charge will lament the loss of that power with self pity and at the same time strike out at their destroyers.
But “Joe Six-Pack” and the so-called “Security Moms”, who bought into the 911 fear-fest, who actually feared their kids were in danger from the likes of Al Gore and John Kerry, and who thought patriotism was posting a flag out front, may be the difference. They’ll take convincing, and hitting them over the head will just make them more likely to defend prior stances.
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