Comments on: Late Nite FDL: Why, Some of Joe’s Best Friends… http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:38:43 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Speakout http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-191222 Speakout Sun, 16 Jul 2006 04:47:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-191222 <p>Also, according to Palast via Democracy Now, Air America, and, I think The Guardian, Choice point received a no-bid contract to “help” Mexico with their election. Looks like Georgie bought himself ANOTHER election.</p> Also, according to Palast via Democracy Now, Air America, and, I think The Guardian, Choice point received a no-bid contract to “help” Mexico with their election. Looks like Georgie bought himself ANOTHER election.

]]> By: *ilson46201 http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190696 *ilson46201 Sat, 15 Jul 2006 20:20:51 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190696 <p>yeah, after Rev. Jesse Jackson ran a most successful Presidential campaign in 1984, the good ole boys had to organize something to keep the uppity radicals “in their place”. In 1988, the DLC quite-white top dogs spent a lot of time running down Jesse …</p> yeah, after Rev. Jesse Jackson ran a most successful Presidential campaign in 1984, the good ole boys had to organize something to keep the uppity radicals “in their place”. In 1988, the DLC quite-white top dogs spent a lot of time running down Jesse …

]]> By: Skip McGillicuddy http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190692 Skip McGillicuddy Sat, 15 Jul 2006 20:15:12 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190692 <p>What are the conservatives over at the Democratic Leadership Council saying about the Joe Lieberman race? Well, it’s a fascinating read. Apparently the “liberal fundamentalists” are not voting for change but conducting a “purge effort” that stifles dissent and strengthens conformity. Hilarious.</p> <p><a href="http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253901&kaid=131&subid=192">http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm.....;subid=192</a></p> <p>“We deplore this purge effort because Joe Lieberman is an outstanding and respected U.S. Senator. He is a man of utmost integrity who speaks and governs by his values and principles, even when they lead him against the popular tide — as he did when he went to Mississippi to fight for civil rights in 1964. He is a man who always puts his country above his party or his personal interests. Those are qualities we should cherish, not disdain, in today’s far too polarized politics. We need more, not fewer, people with Joe Lieberman’s character in the Democratic Party. </p> <p>Lieberman served as DLC chairman for six years, handing over the gavel to Sen. Evan Bayh after the 2000 presidential elections. But opposition to this kind of intra-party purge is also a matter of tradition for us: One of the major reasons for the DLC’s founding in 1985 was to resist what we called “liberal fundamentalism,” a conformist tendency to stifle dissent among Democrats and require adherence to litmus tests devised by interest groups and ideological advocates.”</p> What are the conservatives over at the Democratic Leadership Council saying about the Joe Lieberman race? Well, it’s a fascinating read. Apparently the “liberal fundamentalists” are not voting for change but conducting a “purge effort” that stifles dissent and strengthens conformity. Hilarious.

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm…..;subid=192

“We deplore this purge effort because Joe Lieberman is an outstanding and respected U.S. Senator. He is a man of utmost integrity who speaks and governs by his values and principles, even when they lead him against the popular tide — as he did when he went to Mississippi to fight for civil rights in 1964. He is a man who always puts his country above his party or his personal interests. Those are qualities we should cherish, not disdain, in today’s far too polarized politics. We need more, not fewer, people with Joe Lieberman’s character in the Democratic Party.

Lieberman served as DLC chairman for six years, handing over the gavel to Sen. Evan Bayh after the 2000 presidential elections. But opposition to this kind of intra-party purge is also a matter of tradition for us: One of the major reasons for the DLC’s founding in 1985 was to resist what we called “liberal fundamentalism,” a conformist tendency to stifle dissent among Democrats and require adherence to litmus tests devised by interest groups and ideological advocates.”

]]> By: chris joseph http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190681 chris joseph Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:54:07 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190681 <p>So if Choicepoint is a big donor, and we know what they did in 2000…</p> <p>why isn’t anyone connecting the dots here?</p> <p>Lieberman’s “insurance policy” of keeping his name on the ballot in CT as Senator while simultaneously running as Gore’s VP… his lackluster perfomance in the debate with Dick Cheney (in comparison to the attack dog who met Ned Lamont)… this makes a whole lot more sense when you consider Lieberman was probably the GOP’s “inside man” in 2000.</p> So if Choicepoint is a big donor, and we know what they did in 2000…

why isn’t anyone connecting the dots here?

Lieberman’s “insurance policy” of keeping his name on the ballot in CT as Senator while simultaneously running as Gore’s VP… his lackluster perfomance in the debate with Dick Cheney (in comparison to the attack dog who met Ned Lamont)… this makes a whole lot more sense when you consider Lieberman was probably the GOP’s “inside man” in 2000.

]]> By: punaise http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190416 punaise Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:21:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190416 <p><i>Anne Holliday 105</i></p> <p>Moderator - me thinks the spirit of Bastille Day may have clouded my judgment and I regret posting a first draft of my pre-midnight, impassioned ranting & raving. It can and should await an improved & more thoughtful, polished and judicious posting another day.</p> <p>don’t be silly - it’s a great recounting.</p> Anne Holliday 105

Moderator – me thinks the spirit of Bastille Day may have clouded my judgment and I regret posting a first draft of my pre-midnight, impassioned ranting & raving. It can and should await an improved & more thoughtful, polished and judicious posting another day.

don’t be silly – it’s a great recounting.

]]> By: getplaning http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190360 getplaning Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:29:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190360 <p>The Republicans have switched their focus from winning the hearts and minds of Americans to simply winning the elections. Their strategy for winning an election is stopping the opposition from registering, voting, and when necessary, not counting their votes. This new strategy is showing up in elections all over the world.<br /> One of the Republican strategies for Connecticut is going to be sending Republicans to vote for Leiberman in the primary, so that he can be defeated before he becomes a Senatorial candidate. They see Lamont a a real threat and are targeting him for defeat, much the same way they have targeted other Democrats. The turnout to vote for Lamont must be overwhelming.</p> The Republicans have switched their focus from winning the hearts and minds of Americans to simply winning the elections. Their strategy for winning an election is stopping the opposition from registering, voting, and when necessary, not counting their votes. This new strategy is showing up in elections all over the world.
One of the Republican strategies for Connecticut is going to be sending Republicans to vote for Leiberman in the primary, so that he can be defeated before he becomes a Senatorial candidate. They see Lamont a a real threat and are targeting him for defeat, much the same way they have targeted other Democrats. The turnout to vote for Lamont must be overwhelming.

]]> By: doug r http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190350 doug r Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:19:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190350 <p>How about an addition to the voting rights act that once felons have done their time, they automatically get back their right to vote?</p> How about an addition to the voting rights act that once felons have done their time, they automatically get back their right to vote?

]]> By: CJ http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190329 CJ Sat, 15 Jul 2006 14:46:54 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190329 <p>Oh, let the man go on about something he accomplished 30 or so years ago. Emphasizing actions that may have been significant but represent a minute portion of your overall record won’t likely work out that well, just ask <a href="http://kerry.senate.gov/v3/cfm/home.cfm">this guy</a>.</p> Oh, let the man go on about something he accomplished 30 or so years ago. Emphasizing actions that may have been significant but represent a minute portion of your overall record won’t likely work out that well, just ask this guy.

]]> By: bcf http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190294 bcf Sat, 15 Jul 2006 14:19:12 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190294 <p><i>That November Jeb Bush had an unexpectedly easy walk to the governor’s mansion, an election victory attributed, ironically, to his endorsement by black Democratic politicians feuding with their party.</i></p> <p>*ilson46201 says:<br /> “over half of the Democratic Congresscritters voted against the War on Iraq in October 2002 — they got it right, even back then…”</p> <p>Of the one’s that got it right, however regrettably few they may be, they are <b>all</b> from one party. That’s all I have to say, do the math, connect the dots, whatever…</p> That November Jeb Bush had an unexpectedly easy walk to the governor’s mansion, an election victory attributed, ironically, to his endorsement by black Democratic politicians feuding with their party.

*ilson46201 says:
“over half of the Democratic Congresscritters voted against the War on Iraq in October 2002 — they got it right, even back then…”

Of the one’s that got it right, however regrettably few they may be, they are all from one party. That’s all I have to say, do the math, connect the dots, whatever…

]]> By: lotus http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190229 lotus Sat, 15 Jul 2006 13:00:20 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/14/late-nite-fdl-choicepoint-hearts-lieberman/#comment-190229 <p>Ooop — time to Pull Up A Chair upstairs.</p> Ooop — time to Pull Up A Chair upstairs.

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