.
Desperate to campaign on anything but his record, Lieberman releases his tax returns so he can continue to whine until Ned does likewise:
"This is another desperate attempt by Sen. Lieberman’s campaign to distract voters away from his continuing support for George Bush," said Tom Swann, Lamont’s campaign manager. "We’re releasing Ned’s taxes because we want to talk about the real issues of the day, like the price of gas and … the war in Iraq."
If Joe is all about transparency, maybe he won’t mind releasing a list of Haddassah’s clients? Haddassah is a lobbyist for Big Pharma. Joe has pushed through many Big Pharma windfalls, and is the biggest recipient of campaign money from Pharmaceuticals in the Senate. Much, much more attention needs to be paid to this.
. How come nobody in the media is asking Joe if he’s changed his position on rape victims to make NARAL happy? I think it’s an obvious one.
. Overheard at an event last night: "If this boils down to a competition over the most lawn signs, it’ll be Ned vs. Coldwelll Banker." True — In two weeks, I’ve seen more lawn jockeys and garden gnomes than Lieberman signs. Speaking of which, two Democrats who had cast their convention votes for Lieberman recently asked for Lamont signs. They were evidently disgusted with Boltin’ Joe’s decision to flip the bird to the party.
. Ned at Young Democrats tonight.
. If you’re a CT resident, PLEASE join Ned’s Family, Friends and Neighbors network to make sure the people you know become part of the Lamont GOTV list. More here. It’s really, really important.
. Stoller:
The firepower lined up against us is remarkable. The DSCC, the Connecticut Democratic Party, Sierra Club, NARAL, League of Conservation Voters, Planned Parenthood, AFL-CIO, SEIU, CWA, NALC, NAGE, Food and Commercial Workers, Teamster’s, Firefighters, Carpenters, Postal Workers, IBEW, Human Rights Campaign, 40+ Senators, John Lewis, etc.
Lieberman is spending massive amounts of money on direct mail pieces and TV, and who knows how much other lobbyist and interest group money is being funneled onto Lieberman’s side.
We did not make this happen, the voters of Connecticut made it happen. But we created some space, as we do for all our political pushes.
As Matt has noted, if all these groups put as much effort into fighting Alito as they have toward fighting us, our efforts probably wouldn’t be so necessary. But the fact is, this is big, big money lined up against Ned. Lieberman’s claim that Ned is trying to "buy" the election is such a joke I don’t know when to stop laughing.
. Mixmaster Joe (via Colin McEnroe).
. The Great Divider Joe Lieberman has also split members of the Congressional Black Caucus. An article in the Courant details how Maxine Waters, who has no love for Lieberman and his anti-civil rights opportunism (yeah yeah I know he marched in ‘64, David Howowitz was a liberal then too) is now pitted against local Rep John Lewis, who has endorsed Lieberman. Money quote:
"Sen. Lieberman is not in any way beloved in the African American community. There’s a considerable amount of suspicion," said David A. Bositis, senior research associate at the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, a research group that examines minority voting patterns.
Then Big White Marshall Whitman offers up his analysis of the African-American vote. Hilarity ensues. Although they note that Lewis is a member of the "Out of Iraq" caucus they don’t mention that Party Boss Lieberman threatened to cut off any state Democrat who didn’t support him. I don’t even blame Lewis, he did what he had to, but he’s been less than vocal and nobody really takes the endorsement very seriously. Maxine Waters on the other hand…. (Lewis is from GA, thanks for the corrections in the comments. My money is still on Maxine)
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Joe & Valerie!
Ned not Joe
Rove-Cheney-Libby and the Big 10
Is Lieberman on of the 10 John Does?
I know Bush is and probably that Secretary what’s her name. The young gal?
I wrote NARAL and Planned Parenthood about their support for JL. I heard back from NARAL:
Thank you for contacting us. As an activist your work is at the core of our mission. We want to hear from you and appreciate the support you have given us over the years.
I have read your note, and I know you are not happy with us for endorsing Senator Joe Lieberman. Here at NARAL Pro-Choice America, we’re very proud of our high standard for endorsement. That having been said, from time to time, it does occasionally occur that a pro-choice elected official will take a position against our recommendation – and when that happens, it’s always a disappointment. Senator Lieberman’s vote (and the same votes of other fully pro-choice senators) for cloture on the controversial Alito nomination is one case in point. And his comments about emergency contraception caused us concern, as they undoubtedly did you as well – but he has since clarified his position, to our satisfaction.
But taking all facts into consideration – including many years of pro-choice votes in the Senate – we believe Senator Lieberman has continued to earn the NARAL Pro-Choice America endorsement. With so many relentless attacks on choice, and an anti-choice president determined to see this right taken away from American women forever, we must prioritize our work, and we need all the friends we can get. We treat him no differently than any other pro-choice senator – Democrat or Republican. I know we disagree on this one point, but our challenge is so monumental that I hope we can continue to stand together against our real opponents: President Bush, congressional leaders, and anti-choice senators who oppose us on every single vote.
Again, I appreciate the passion of your commitment to the fundamental freedoms we cherish. You are always welcome to contact us — with agreements and disagreements. I hope we can count on your continued support as we roll up our sleeves to achieve the common goals we share.
Best,
Elizabeth Shipp
Political Director
Sorry for the lenght but wanted someone to see what they said. I wrote back saying I had not hear how he defended his statements.
HARTFORD, Conn. — A defiant Alan Schlesinger said Thursday that he has no reason to drop out of the U.S. Senate race amid revelations he used a fake name to gamble at Foxwoods Resort Casino in the 1990s.
http://www.newsday.com/news/lo…..onnecticut
Not to hijack the thread, but some folks asked some questions back on hte Plame lawsuit thread.
I just caught up and posted two medium langish posts trying to answer some of those questions.
Tomorrow, I believe, brings the ReddHedd treatment.
I can’t wait. But for now a little snack at the bottom of the thread before last.
Now reutrn to your regular proagramming, And I am going home. Gotta get some sleep big court day tomorrow
Re: Puppies, One stillborn, one born alive but being rejected by mama. Bottle feeding may be in our future.
Jane, John Lewis is from Georgia.
Can’t wait for the next call from the Sierra Club. Should come tomorrow. They’re gonna hear it from me!
ummm … Rep. John Lewis is a U.S. Congressman from Georgia, not a CT homeboy. Many of these endorsements were finagled months ago, before the Lamont challenge arose. Unless you lack a train schedule, it’s hard to duck out of a prior commitment…
Sorry for the lenght but wanted someone to see what they said. I wrote back saying I had not hear how he defended his statements.
One of the things that bugs me about this is that they seem to think that a vote on a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court has pretty much the same weight as any other Senate vote.
Alito should have been a *huge* issue for them, but they seem to be shrugging it off.
sorry if this TPM post is a repeat:
Hard to imagine Maxine Waters ever being less than vocal about anything . . . Glad Ned’s her choice.
Wonder if this little scuffle in the Middle east will help Joey in his run against Ned. What with Lieberman’s attitude of supporting Israel, right or wrong. Oh, and Condi and Georgie are all a flutter, saying Israel has a “right” to defend itself.
“How come nobody in the media is asking Joe if he’s changed his position on rape victims to make NARAL happy?”
That’s a laser guided bunker buster.
That will be in the WaPo’s online chat tomorrow. I cannot guarantee, however, whether they will print it.
OT but …
Isn’t monkeycide impeachable?
Here at NARAL Pro-Choice America, we’re very proud of our high standard for endorsement.
Yeah. Right.
.
sparks #6:
Yeah, we all got the EXACT same letter – and Jane posted it last night – it’s a freakin’ form letter!
And yes, the “jumpout” of the entire thing is how holyjoe supposedly “clarified his position” to THEIR “satisfaction.” Lots of snarky speculation here at FDL on just how exactly he might have done that…
Here at NARAL Pro-Choice America, we’re very proud of our high standard for endorsement.
Yeah. Right.
1) Do you have a pulse? Yes [ ] No [ ]
2) Do you occasionally vote in favor of choice? Yes [ ] No [ ]
3) Are you an incumbent? Yes [ ] No [ ]
Nos. 1 & 2 may be waived under certain extenuating circumstances.
And yes, the “jumpout” of the entire thing is how holyjoe supposedly “clarified his position” to THEIR “satisfaction.” Lots of snarky speculation here at FDL on just how exactly he might have done that…
If NARAL is that easily satisfied, I should probably date them.
Some of my heretofore favorite causes are p*ssing me off!!
Sierra Club, NARAL, Planned Parenthood . . . you’re on notice!!
oh oh oh — the nathering nabobs of negativity in the Establishment Media are saying that gasoline prices will likely stay above $3 all summer …
OT but short and sweet:
New Rasmussen poll in CA Governor’s race:
Angelides: 46%
Gropenator: 44%
Yay!
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2006/State Polls/July 2006/caGovernor.htm
OT
Going to my first “Drinking Liberally” here in San Antonio. Woo Hoo!! I’ll let you know how it went…
Jane, your Ned news is the most comprehensive on the web. Great job. Love the anecdote about the lawn signs. LOL.
Dropping in and our, reading about the war in the ME, want to send condolences on lhp’s pup and thank Jane and Christy for great posts on the news about the Wilsons and CT nonsense. Joe is kind of dripping fear, I can feel it all the way up here on the coast of MA.
I particularly like the first sentence in the form letter about how she read “my” letter. I got one too but deleted it immediately since I had read it here, not worth my time. This happened the last time we did letters, remember?
BTW, *ilson, it was me with the URL suggestion, knew you wouldn’t resist. Good on you!
the nathering nabobs of negativity
That’s right, *ilson.
Or should I call you Spiro?
Hmmm…
.
Poor Joe. He had a pretty good career going (for a closet GOP) until he tasted them dangling carrots.
I am getting ready for Olberman.
“With . . . an anti-choice president determined to see this right taken away from American women forever, we must prioritize our work, and we need all the friends we can get. . . I know we disagree on this one point, but our challenge is so monumental that I hope we can continue to stand together . . .”
????????????????????????????????????
Did the writer read the first paragraph of this letter?
How does it follow that in order to achieve this goal, they endorse a senator who has CONTRIBUTED to the problem (if not put the final nail in the coffin) over one who is clearly pro-choice??
I am flummoxed. And VERY suspicious. There is no logic at all to their explanation. Which makes me think, very sadly, that it may be what I feared in the first place–that they’re really only looking after their lobbying investment (i.e., incumbent).
That’s right, *ilson.
Or should I call you Spiro?
Spiro Agne*?
I enjoy using their verbal weapons against them like calling Lieberman “Cut’n Run Joe”
HSAT still around? I was in San Antonio for years (or perhaps “tears”) Where you at?
KO on with the Wilson/Plame lawsuit. John Dean and Larry O’Donnel weighing in. Like Dean . . . larry, well he blew it long ago.
John Dean on KO now re Plame!!!!!!!!!!!
sparks 6 – re NARAL letter –
gaggez-moi with a darkblack rape gurney.
Jesus!
Spiro Agne*?
*hat are you talking about?
.
*hat are you talking about?
Hell if I kno*.
Is anyone else at FDL worried that this race _is_ just an anti-Joe race? I want Ned to win (I have Ned signs out!) and I want to see more policy wonkery, and more sloganeering from the Lamont campaign that has nothing to do with Joe.
Dean says this (the lawsuit)won’t make Fitz very happy.
A few months back maybe a year, David Broder wrote a column about how Bush couldn’t really be a radical b/c Andy Card was his Chief of Staff and Andy Card was the sort of fellow one would enjoy cocktails and a few rounds of cribbage or tennis with (I paraphrase). Broder may have been speaking for Northern/country club Republicans, but Planned Parenthood and NARAL’s treatment of Lieberman and Alito reflects back on the entire Senate Dem Caucus (or at least the Alito 25) and their inability and/or unwillingness to see this administration for what it is. And if you thought things couldn’t get worse, just look at the news tonight. I’m scared.
Drowsy-
That boat sailed long ago. Too bad. Ned’s the real deal.
a very powerful lawsuit… john dean.
so there, toobers.
fitz is just alright.
drowsy @39: Bush has given Ned an opportunity to use Social Security, he just has to get his ducks in a row and be ready to call bullshit when Lieberman tries to say he fought privatization, cause he didn’t. That’s just a lie.
O’Donnel is sounding more and more like he’s on the WH payroll.
Laurence O’Donnell says the lawsuit is weak. They have to get through the motions to dismiss to get to discovery.
And I agree with Dean.
Rev-
You are far off the mark with Larry. He knows the law from the inside. That’s all.
OT – you litigator/crim guys. What’s the likelihood that, with the filing of this suit, the Wilsons can get access to GJ testimony from the criminal investigation?
Stephen,
Could be. Been watching him comment on this story since last fall and he’s been wrong far more often than he’s been right. Jane, Christy and Marcy can probably back that up.
INAL obvioiusly, but O’Donnel hasn’t hit it the mark very often on this. I used to get excited about his opinions, my being a West Wing addict, but I view his words far more suspiciously these days.
Time will tell all. Maybe.
The firepower lined up against us is remarkable. The DSCC, the Connecticut Democratic Party, Sierra Club, NARAL, League of Conservation Voters, Planned Parenthood, AFL-CIO, SEIU, CWA, NALC, NAGE, Food and Commercial Workers, Teamster’s, Firefighters, Carpenters, Postal Workers, IBEW, Human Rights Campaign, 40 Senators, John Lewis, etc.
However, on our side is one very pissed-off force of nature known as Jane Hamsher. Which immediately evens things up. Add to that a very smart, attractive candidate who does not blow George Bush and cheerlead his half-trillion-dollar vanity war. And fuck this old-dem institutional shit and money. The rank and file are not with them.
The Wilsons’ lawyer on KO tomorrow night – so, we’ll see if John Dean or party-pooper Lawrence O’Donnell is the better predictor of the lawsuit’s strength.
I’ve read (at Next Hurrah, I think) that the Wilsons’ lawyer, Chemerensky (sp????), is a legal “god.” That makes me encouraged. However, they’ve apparently drawn a rightwing Bush-appointed judge. Does that increase the chances (like O’Donnell said) of the case getting dismissed? IANAL – definitely.
biggest recipient of campaign money from Pharmaceuticals in the Senate
And just how is Joe doing on the “let’s make healthcare affordable and available front?”
*s*
I’m glad to hear about the street signs. With someone “new” I think they make a huge diff in both getting the name recognition and the “credibility” that other real people in the community support them.
MSNBC Question of the Day
Should the U.S. intervene militarily in the Mideast crisis? * 8778 responses
Yes 8.9%
No 91%
From Salon’sTim Grieve at the War Room
Could this be true? If so, I’m feeling better.
Shithead Larry O’Donnell has been reading his Rovian talking points the past two appearances on Countdown…Keith needs to start seeing him for what he is….. a LOSER……..It is obvious to me that O’Donnell has done a 360 on this CIA leak …..and it is suspicious to me why?…I would believe John Dean over Lawrence “ORGY” O’Donnell when it comes to the law.
RevDeb#53: So does this mean there’s a process in place that could take the case away from the wingnut judge after he’s been given it?
Jane, the pulitzer prize winner of the Atlanta Journal today published a cartoon today with Joe and GW holding hands but disputing a china pattern. http://www.ajc.com
John Casper @ 5:26 pm (#53) – This is one of those poll questions that should have three choices: “Yes”,”No”, and “Are you nuts?”
GJ statements from
ScooterIrving that he routinely engaged in “gossip” with the entireeffingWashintong Press Corps are not going to play well in this venue.everhopeful 56
Wish I knew! Just regurgitating what was printed in Salon. If any of the many lawyers that hang out here know, I wish they would share it.
John Casper @ 5:26 pm (#53) – This is one of those poll questions that should have three choices: “Yes”,”No”, and “Are you nuts?”
Or “Not Again”…
Not to be a pesky, but it’s ‘nattering nabobs of negativity’.
:)
I forget teh exact words he used, but yesterday on Franken, O’Donnell went through a five minute evisceration of Joe Lieberman, essentially saying he was useless as a Senator, and then concluded by saying it was a mistake to ‘drive him out of the Democratic party’ or some such. This makes sense once you’ve drunk enough of Sally Quinn’s sangria, I guess. I can’t think of a better explanation.
jL 57 – good cartoon. here’s the direct link.
Not to be a pesky, but it’s ‘nattering nabobs of negativity’.
Jenny Pesky had a lot of good years with the Red Sox.
Hell if I kno*.
Joe and Valerie Plame *ilson?
OK, I’m done.
.
And really, I can’t believe that even I didn’t know about Hadassah’s pharma whoring. Gods, is this now in the freakin senatorial wife job description? Wendy Gramm (Enron escort), Linda Daschle (airline comfort woman), Hadassah (Glaxo geisha)…how many others?
Not to be female-insulting with the sex metaphors – since it’s really their menfolk who are the true hookers.
HOW could Al Gore have picked this total WHINY PRIG PUTZ? Imo it killed him every bit as bad as Nader and Katherine Harris combined.
John Dean’s Conservatives Without Conscience Tour
No CA – July 27th, 28th, 29th
First Congregational Church of Berkeley @ 7:30 on the 28th – I’m there!
http://us.penguingroup.com/nf/…..79,00.html
(Glaxo geisha)-LOL
Seems there’s a major thingie going on in the middle-east which could lead to nuclear conflagration. And the silence is deafening. Worse, perhaps deadly. And the thought occurs, if this thing gets much worse, it won’t matter who wins what election.
Eli -
heh. It’s just that I’m so old I remember it like it was yesterday… I can still hear the sweet lilting voice of the lovely Spiro Agnew when he said it. Yes, I ended in a preposition.
Eli sez:
Jenny Pesky had a lot of good years with the Red Sox.
The weirdest pun ever.
.
So Lamont is wealthier than Lieberman. OK, big deal … both are probably in the top 1% with respect to income. I would venture to say that neither of them actually knows what it’s like to worry about making the next mortgage payment. But from here, it sure looks as though Lamont actually gives a rat’s ass about the people of Connecticut (”the middle ‘C’ is silent”) who actually have those worries. Lamont grew up in privilege, but recogizes that it is privilege, and gives something back. Lieberman maybe grew into privilege, and whines because the voters may think that it is a privilege (to serve them in the US Senate) and do not agree that it is his entitlement.
Sparks 6 Everyone’s been getting the same form letter . . .
The weirdest pun ever.
Wait.
Thanks for the Lewis catch. I’m at Paul Bass’s house having a fabulous home cooked vegetarian meal so I can’t fix it so if anyone with super powers can do so feel free (strike out error & add correct).
Home soon or Kobe will start howlinng
Jenny sez:
Yes, I ended in a preposition.
You bring shame onto the entire Blogosphere.
:-)
.
Hadassah (Glaxo geisha)
Pfizer pfloozy?
newtonusr, interesting – looks like Dean doesn’t have any events scheduled back east. Just West Coast, Denver, and Chicago. Hmm, wonder why that is?
The weirdest pun ever.
Wait.
Uh-oh…..
Chiron siren
newtonusr 68
I reading that book now. Christy – Jane can we recommend Deans book to the FD must club? THis is VERY good reading
John Casper @ 53
Answers should be
Yes
No
Is Bush ready to push the button
Hey Spork!
Jane sez:
I’m at Paul Bass’s house having a fabulous home cooked vegetarian meal
I don’t know Paul Bass but I like him already!
.
Wait.
This will end in tears.
.
Eli @ 21
Date them? Hell, you should marry them.
[waves to Jenny]
!
.
Jenny – 62, hate to be peskier, but I thought it was “negativism.” Written by Safire, of course.
Speaking of which, I bet I’m the only person here who can claim to have once owned a Spiro Agnew trashcan. It was decorated with a topical cartoon of him and some golf incident – the equivalent of Cheney hunting. I’d still have it if the crap paint job hadn’t disintegrated after about ten years.
Angel of Merck(el)
Chuck Todd:
http://nationaljournal.com/todd.htm
He goes on to assert that “a Lieberman loss at this point…..is going to reflect badly on the Democratic Party’s national image”, saying that gops and media will claim we are a “small tent”. -Although he doesn’t explain how it would be that Democrats who stand up for what they believe would be a bad thing. It seems to me that the nation is looking for that, too.
Speaking of which, I bet I’m the only person here who can claim to have once owned a Spiro Agnew trashcan. It was decorated with a topical cartoon of him and some golf incident – the equivalent of Cheney hunting. I’d still have it if the crap paint job hadn’t disintegrated after about ten years.
I have a Nixon/Agnew campaign button. Wore it on my mild-weather jacket for about a year, starting on Election Day 2004.
Hey Sharkbabe -
I like pesky. I haven’t googled, but I remember ‘negativity’…. I could be wrong.
newtonusr @68 : isn’t First Congregational catty-corner from the First Presbyterian Church in Berkeley? (on Dwight Way?)
Sonoma R 81 – second that emotion re Dean book. Also David Sirota’s “Hostile Takeover” kicks ASS.
Leslie in CA @ 77
Yeah – just Philly (hello Duncan) – prolly schedule some eastern hits once done in “friendly” territory. An intimate Q & A w/Dean? A must-attend event for me.
“Considering some of the venom that’s being spewed at him, he can get sympathy on a personal level.” Chuck Todd
God this pisses me off- this, like the ’small tent’ nonsense only makes sense, would only make sense, if you accept the idea that seems to have become the underlying presumption of the Beltway Media when discussing Lamont-Lieberman, and ONLY when discussing Lamont-Lieberman, that Iraq is No Big Deal.
The small tent nonsense is easy to fight, if Dems are ready: Pro life Harry Reid leading the Senate, John Kerry campaigning hard for Casey in PA and Webb in VA, govs of MT, KS and AZ, etc… Of course, Dems being ready is like saying get that herd o’cats all headed through the river.
Jenny from the Blog @ 5:44 pm (#92) – According to answers.com and Wikipedia, it’s “negativism”, which isn’t the way I remembered it, either.
answers dot com:
http://www.answers.com/topic/n…..negativism
Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Safire
check the “Biography” section.
Jenny – 62, hate to be peskier, but I thought it was “negativism.” Written by Safire, of course.
Sharkbabe@88, I thought it was Buchanan who wrote that one.
Damn, pesky crowd!
OK Kiddo,
I found a good site from the Palestinian perspective, talks about Lebanon as well.
http://electronicintifada.net/new.shtml
Cujo -
Well, I’ll be damned. Anyway, I was being pesky about “nathering”.
Serves me right for being pendantic. :)
It’s just that I’m so old I remember it like it was yesterday… I can still hear the sweet lilting voice of the lovely Spiro Agnew when he said it. Yes, I ended in a preposition.
ahh – see, I step away to steam some green beans and miss the Agnew nostalgia conversational nuances…who can forget his bear-like bearing and slitted eyes, uttering those gems…of course now he looks like Adlai Stevenson and George McGovern combined.
If you’re really old enough, and lived in the DC area, you’d remember this MD gubernatorial jingle (to the tune of “My Kind of Town”)
My kind of man, Ted Agnew is
my kind of man
[…]
the man to move MaryLAND,
he’s myyyyy kind of man
god, what an innocent age
Jim @ 5:52 pm (#98) Both those references credit Safire with the phrase.
Eli @92 I have an “Opus & Bill” campaign button that I wore to work (bouncer / bar-back at a pub) the night the Young Republicans came to our establishment for an event during “Hatefest ‘92″ (GOP Convention in Houston). Does that count for anything? (And yes, they were shitty tippers.)
Huh. I just googled and got about 50 pages using ‘negativity’ in the phrase. Damn internets!
AirportCat @ 92
b’tween Ellsworth & Dana, couple blocks from Dwight
http://www.fccb.org/contact_us.php
Hell, AirportCat, I don’t even know if *mine* counts for anything. It just seemed… obscurely symbolic.
Sharkbabe -
Oh boy, I’m from Maryland (Baltimore) and I remember his campaign slogan in his run for governor was “Your Home is Your Castle”, a not so thinly veiled racial platform against neighborhood integration. He was a really vile man.
Sharkbabe @ 5:53 pm (#101) – who can forget his bear-like bearing and slitted eyes, uttering those gems…of course now he looks like Adlai Stevenson and George McGovern combined.
Bush has accomplished the impossible – making me nostalgic for the Nixon Administration.
my bad: Buchanan is credited with “Pusillanimous pussyfooting”
I suspect he and Safire got drunk and played “Top this alliterative demagoguery”. (if you Mr Language Person Safire, this is fun)
I know that this is, like, Beyond the Valley of the Ultra OTs, but did anything ever happen with the Alfonso Jackson thing? The HUD secretary who admitted to denying a gov contract to someone opposed to Bush?
LHP
After you give mama a popshot of oxytocin, she’ll probably bond with the baby. (OT: Recent studies show that Oxytocin given to regular people makes them more nurturing.)
As long as baby is hydrated, he’ll do ok till mom comes around.
Otherwise, send that little pupper down here and Dizzy will happily be as neurotically maternal toward him as she is to her three. :)
BTW, one of the nicest dogs I ever bred was a singleton. He has an amazing temperament, insincts, intelligence and connection with his people, besides being a beauty.
proud member of the blathering bahhhh-bobs of blogitivity
Jim 109 -
LOL!
Chuck Todd is drinking concern troll lemonade. That is all.
OT: Recent studies show that Oxytocin given to regular people makes them more nurturing.
What would happen if an aerosol version was slipped into the WH A/C?
Ah, they’d probably just be more nurturing to the oil companies…
Jim @ 108
If I were Buchanan, I’d run like hell from credit for that!
If I were Buchanan, I’d run like hell from credit for that!
It has clearly not withstood the test of time.
Oh, and here’s another OT thang: did anyone here in LA go to the drinking liberally thing last night?
Jim @ 5:56 pm (#109) – One of the reasons I assumed “nattering nabobs” was a Buchanan phrase was because Safire is just so much more articulate. But you write a speech for the guy who’s going to deliver it, so those phrases worked for Agnew. It took the Bush Administration quite a few tries before they learned to avoid polysyllables and compound sentences.
It took the Bush Administration quite a few tries before they learned to avoid polysyllables and compound sentences.
Saddam bad! Bush SMASH!
Jenny – actually “Your Home is Your Castle” was the slogan for George P. Mahoney, not Spiro Agnew. Not so sure it was all that “thinly veiled” though, from what I remember.
Are you still in Baltimore? I work dowtown, but live 25 miles north, between Hunt Valley and the PA line. Grew up in Towson.
I have a Nixon/Agnew campaign button. Wore it on my mild-weather jacket for about a year, starting on Election Day 2004.
Bah, whippersnapper! Me have original illustrated “Goldwater in 64!” [can’t believe it myself]
Dating myself even more pathetically, the first time I played an electric bass (as opposed to standup) was at a Humphrey for Prez rally. Unfortunately my whore band was to adorn a Nixon victory party later that year…
I just want to say…Jane keep up the great work and know that those of us out in the hintherland support what you are doing 100%. You’ve disrupted your life for this cause but you understand that this is the most significant election that will be held in America this year. Thanks for what you are doing.
If I were Buchanan, I’d run like hell from credit for that!
If I were Buchanan I’d
A) deny it
B) kill myself
C) fly to Brussels and walk on my knees to the nearest Trappist monastery and ask what exactly I had to do to gain forgiveness.
Or just get drunk, put on a wig and a dress and go on TV referring to myself as my own sister “Bay”.
newtonusr @106, yes, thanks … been a long time since I’ve been out that way, but I do remember it
Eli @107, obscure symbolism is good. I’ll go along with that.
Anne -
Thanks for the correction. I always thought it was Agnew!
I left Baltimore a long time ago, moved to DC and then NYC. Now I’m in Los Angeles. But I’m very familiar with Towson. I’m planning to visit my hometown in a few months, haven’t been there in 25 years and I can’t wait to chow down on mass quantities of crabcakes, smell the air, walk the cobblestone streets in Mt. Vernon, in that order…
Eli @107, obscure symbolism is good. I’ll go along with that.
I’m just glad that no-one ever point-blank asked me to explain it. Of course, before that I used to wear an “out of date perpetual calendar”.
And what the HELL happened to my “Go ahead, chew my clothes off” button? It never worked, but I was still quite fond of it.
blathering bahhhh-bobs of blogitivity
p, are you TRYING to make me cry about my absent goats?! (eyes filling, easing into fetal pity position)
Re: Agnew/Mahoney – Mahoney was the Democratic nominee for governor, and he ran against Agnew, the Republican. And lost.
Just listened to the podcast of the Ed Schultz interviews with Lamont and Lie-berman.
Ned was absolutely perfect. Just perfect. He was informed, well-spoken, emanently reasonable and just plain nice – - and I am always more critical of my on side than of the opposition.
I thought Schultz was very sympathetic to Lamont and at the end he came this close to saying he agreed with Ned on more issues than Lieberman.
He didn’t say it but the implication was there – - especially after you heard the Lieberman interview.
HoJo didn’t come off too bad because he’s a good liar. If you don’t know the backstory, you’d maybe think Lieberman sounded all right – - except for the whining.
Ned was just great.
I still have my (brother’s old) Spriro Agnew dart board that says, at the bottom:
Et Tu Spiro?
I still have my (brother’s old) Spriro Agnew dart board that says, at the bottom:
Et Tu Spiro?
I used to have a Spirograph.
I’m reaching, aren’t I.
Jenny – you won’t recognize the downtown area. I’m right across the street from the National Aquarium – great harbor views! Would love to treat you to lunch when you get here, so keep it in mind!
Anne -
Oh my gosh. I just did some research and found out that “Your Home is Your Castle” angered liberals so much it drove them into the arms of Agnew. Interesting!
Eli @128, one of my favorite buttons had a pic of Andy Warhol and the slogan “Your 15 Minutes Are Up” … can’t find it anywhere, too bad. At least I still have the one that says “Jesus Loves You. Everyone else thinks you’re an asshole.“
Anne -
I would absolutely love to meet you. The trip is for a weekend late September. I will let you know. Thanks!
Oh my gosh. I just did some research and found out that “Your Home is Your Castle” angered liberals so much it drove them into the arms of Agnew. Interesting!
Damn MoveOn/Spiro Agnew liberals.
AirportCat, I think my favorite of the ones I have left is probably: “Thank you. We’re all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view.”
Lest we forget, Nixon’s the one!
Funny how that came back to bite ‘em in the behind.
Jenny, I’ve been DC area for many years (all over before that) but fell bigtime for Baltimore only in past 10 years – it has that same industrial squalor and “real city” (as opposed to DC) thrill of my Cleveland roots. Anyway, hope you enjoy your trip back. Even since I’ve been into it I’ve seen many old things lost, but there’s still something about the soul of that place that nothing can kill.
Eli @133, Not so much, reaching: I too had a Spirograph, which my father always referred to as my “Spiro-T-Agnew-graph”
Four More Smears!
Four More smears!
BTW, I love the pic of Ned and his wife.
I think spirochetes are bad sometimes, but love spirographs.
random thought: Joe Wilson campaigning for Ned Lamont
Jenny & Sharkbabe, if Randy Newman wrote a song about it, the place must be OK.
Eli @133, Not so much, reaching: I too had a Spirograph, which my father always referred to as my “Spiro-T-Agnew-graph”
That’s… kinda scary, really.
And this is my commemorative Bush t-shirt.
Sharkbabe, thank you. I think this will be a special experience for me, sorta rediscovering my roots.
Baltimore was a great place to grow up, funky, creative, not too small, not too big. I’m grateful to have had that experience.
Sorry to hear about your goats. I know how you loved them.
You’re all a bunch of effite, impudent intellectual snobs.
random thought: Joe Wilson campaigning for Ned Lamont
I. Want. MURTHA.
this is all very inSpirotional
this is all very inSpirotional
Yes, I feel born Agnew.
(that’s (#150) the only spiro quote i really remember)
Goodnight, all. Thank you for the inspiration, the intelligence and most of all for the smiles on such a dark day.
Ed Schultz is freakin Sybil. Who the fuck’s side is that motherfucker on, I often ask while mentally banging the dashboard when I hear him. Sounds like his good side stepped up most excellently with Ned.
Eli
random thought: Joe Wilson campaigning for Ned Lamont
I. Want. MURTHA.
would you settle for Uma Thurman?
Someone should tell the voters of CT that if Joe goes back to Congress as an Independent, he loses all his seniority. How’s he going to keep their pork supplied?
I hope Ned wins the primary. Because Lieberman as an Indy will be such an easy target of scorn.
I wish some new polling would surface. Will someone please call Mr. Zogby?
Eli — 151 — for sure. That would send a powerful message.
would you settle for Uma Thurman?
Campaigning for Lamont? No. Beyond that, I’m flexible.
Sharkbabe 102
Remembering Agnew . . . is it just my imagination or does G. Felix Allen look like he’s his kid?
punaise @157, since when is Uma Thurman someone you settle for? Just make sure she brings that kaitana with her.
I can’t wait for Redd’s Wilson post.
LindyH
You’re all a bunch of effite, impudent intellectual snobs.
LOL – I’m quaffing Chateau L’Effete as we speak.
Effete feels good, do it.
Effete feels good, do it.
Effete don’t fail me now.
Boxer on Larry King right now.
Eli 160 – relativist.
AirportCAt 162 – good point!
From the New York Times homepage:
Mr. Cheney’s spokeswoman, Lea Anne McBride, declined to comment, noting that the issues were before a court in the Libby trial. Robert D. Luskin, Mr. Rove’s lawyer, said in an interview: “The allegations are without merit. We may comment further when we have an opportunity to review the complaint.”
Barbara Comstock, a spokeswoman for Mr. Libby, declined to comment.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07…..r=homepage
Eli 116
Honest to God, I’d like to see them do it.
Maybe Junior wouldn’t giggle when he talks about death if he had a smidgen of the nurturing hormone.
Gitcher milk of human kindness right here.
Effete feels good, do it.
impudent, and possibly imprudent as weel
Mary at 48 — (I Know, a long ways back) discoverable if already revealed to anyone outside of the Gov’t prosecution team (including Gov’t witnesses or targets).
Jim @ 125:
Have Pat and Bay ever actually been seen together?
Effete don’t fail me now
snatching victory from the jaws of d’effete
Have Pat and Bay ever actually been seen together?
A boy’s best friend is his sister.
Dan at 172, yes they have — in the black-socks-on classic, Everyone Loves a Bay in a Storm.
Dan at 172, yes they have — in the black-socks-on classic, Everyone Loves a Bay in a Storm.
I think Pat had a small cameo in Bay of The Dead.
Eli proves once again that he is fast on the snark.
Hat tip!
sharkbabe @6:18 sed re ed schultz: Sounds like his good side stepped up most excellently with Ned.
Schultz DID do a good interview today. He started out full of antagonism to the guy who challenged his buddy Joe but ended with grudging respect. Ned stepped up most excellently, too.
Ed has a real knack for drawing his callers out of fixed positions and into a new way of looking. I think he does more good than harm on any given day. I yell at the radio a lot when I listen but I give him props big time. He reaches a whole nother audience, one we need.
Effete don’t fail me now
snatching victory from the jaws of d’effete
the Agonew of d’effete?
little dog 160…hmm, frankly no…well maybe a little…weird how G Felix A (and ilk) are the supposed mental spawn of those fuckers…but the forebears still look like real men to me, as opposed to these – these what, fake-ass creatures, wtf ARE they (GW Bush, Felix, etc) – just so freakin not real in any way
Thanks, imm! I think…
AirportCat closes the loop at 179!
Jane sez
“. How come nobody in the media is asking Joe if he’s changed his position on rape victims to make NARAL happy? I think it’s an obvious one.”
Well, Jane… you know I’ve asked NARAL twice about the “satisfaction” they’ve received from Lieberman since his “clarification” about the rape gurney’n all. NARAL referred me to Joe’s office, so if you have questions about how Joe satisfied NARAL, call Joe at:
202.224.4041. Tell Joe that Elizabeth Shipp said to call.
From Ms. Shipp:
“I encourage you to contact the
senator’s office directly. It can be reached at 202.224.4041. Thank you again
for contacting us. “
So call Joe, y’all.
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I’m a bit Agnewstic on all this….
Eli, it was a sincere compliment….
Sharkbabe 180
It’s something about the overall shape of the head and neck. Kind of bullet-like.
Also, didn’t Agnew have a half-smile smirk about him when he spoke, too?
zennurse…100
Thanks.
omg Sharkbabe shout for your Ken Lay eulogy today
Well put Mommybrain – my thoughts mostly about big Eddie too in general. His voice sounds like Rush. The stuff that to me sounds like waffling could be bringing in all kinds of people on the fence, not to where I am (yet) :)
wha TSF said at 188 – Sharkbabe ripped.
That’s how I read it, imm – I’m still wary of being too much of a pest, but this seems to have turned into an open thread…
A good re-read, from almost a year ago…
A neighbor’s view of Valerie Wilson’s ‘outing’
By Christopher Wolf
Joe and Valerie Wilson are my next door neighbors in a hilly neighborhood just west of Georgetown. We moved in within months of each other seven years ago, attracted to our respective houses by the view of the Capitol in the distance and the Washington Monument in the foreground. The patriotic view is stirring.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/o…..hbor_x.htm
“De spiritu sancto”?
“I…am…in…a…state…of…grace…”
[/mst3k]
.
Wow – the ghost of Spiro Agnew walks among us, apparently. Maybe he’s looking for Joe Lieberman…
With respect to the endorsements Lieberman has gotten, I wonder if there is any way to highlight the disconnect between the executives who made the decision to endorse and what the members of these organizations are really feeling. I’m picturing an ad that features groups of people wearing t-shirts for the organizations in question, who are grouped behind someone who says something to the effect of, “We’re Connecticut residents, and have been members/supporters/donors of/to the Sierra Club/NARAL/Planned Parenthood since 19XX, and we are supporting the candidacy of Ned Lamont. In fact (unrolls a long piece of paper with signatures on it), all of these people are, too. Ned believes that…. and if he is elected, we’re confident he will be a vocal and effective advocate on these issues for the people of Connecticut. So when you hear that (whatever the organization is) is endorsing Ned’s opponent, just remember that the organization does not speak for all of its members/supporters; they certainly do not speak for us.”
Eli – I’m still wary of being too much of a pest
some folks (ahem, la-di-da-di-da) have blazed a trail for you
some folks (ahem, la-di-da-di-da) have blazed a trail for you
I came over here with every intention of being serious and wonky, but you tempted me back to the dark side…
Not only is JOHN LEWIS from GA, but he is my Rep. During the considerable time that I have lived in his district he has NOT HAD A CHALLENGER ON THE BALLOT, either Dem or Rep. He probably holds one of the safest House D seats in the country. He does not need help from Lieberman.
(And I mean FDL in general, not this particular thread…)
In the United States today, we have more than our share of the nattering nabobs of negativism. They have formed their own 4-H Club — the “hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history.
Agnew? or William Safire….
Thoought you might be interested in this OpEd on lieberman in the Jerusalme post. Rabid comments.
http://directory.kol-israel.com/asites/?
Erm, Jerusalem.
sorry.
Agnew? or William Safire….
Al Itteration?
I would like to be in Anne’s ad and say, with fellow Californians:
“I’m a longtime supporter and constituent of Barbara Boxer, and I don’t understand her endorsement of Joe Lieberman. So, if my Senator shows up in your state campaigning against Ned Lamont, please remember that Barbara Boxer USED to speak for me.”
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Hey Teddy and fiance baby!
(Had Enough? Um, let’s see…the fuck yeah?)
Lil dog – to me Agnew never seemed really sincere when uttering those lines. There was something robotic and un-organic about it. As if a rightwing Tony Kushner/used-car salesman combo was penning lines for Bush.
Eli, that’s what’s cool about FDL:
you can wonk the wonk and snark the snark.
Eli 202 — correct, Safire!
TeddySanFran at 632pm – that is one weird response.
Lil dog – to me Agnew never seemed really sincere when uttering those lines. There was something robotic and un-organic about it. As if a rightwing Tony Kushner/used-car salesman combo was penning lines for Bush.
They’re very corny canned slogans. It’s almost impossible to make stilted crap like that sound natural.
you can wonk the wonk and snark the snark.
Or, best of all, combine them.
Eli 202 — correct, Safire!
Safire has always been entirely too in love with his own cleverness.
(…He says, as he posts three comments in a row)
off topic:
I was all day at work today and couldn’t comment on Valerie Plame but WOW! Finally! I hope they can be the Ed Murrows for this generation.
Back to Lieberman – it’s amazing that he’s talked about as if he was a Democrat. The man wants to bolt the party, please, Senators, show some integrity!
TeddySanFran @ 203 –
I’m with you. “Barbara Boxer speaks for me on a lot of issues, but this is not one of them. Go Ned!”
M 196 – The most appalling thing of this post/thread is John Lewis. WTF?! (no caps or bold sufficient to convey wtf feeling)
John. Lewis. Hero.
Lieberman. Bush Junta Fellator.
Bush. Never. Fucking. Elected.
Rove. Racist. Genius. Disenfranchiser.
Lieberman. Every. Word. Legitimizing. This. Fucking. Travesty. Every. Day. Five. Years.
you can wonk the wonk and snark the snark.
Or, best of all, combine them.
resulting in true alchemy, as mastered by our hostesses
(is it OK to say hostesses?)
ember @207 … it’s “yeah, why don’t you go ask Senator Lieberman about that, we’d like to know too”
WTF??!?
Didn’t hear Lieberman on Ed today, but Ned was outstanding. Ed fires pointed questions at him, and his answers were very simple, direct and to the point. He is clearly more than a one issue candidate. Did Ed ask Lieberman why he won’t support the winner of the primary if he loses, and why he feels he has to have it both ways?
TeddySanFran @ 6:32 pm (#182) – (h/t to ember – I missed this)
So, to summarize, in order to find out why NARAL was satisfied by Joe Lieberman, we should ask Joe Lieberman? Hey, if I knew how to read minds, you wouldn’t have to write me to find out how. I’d have written a series of bestsellers.
I thought Joe only knew how to “satisfy” Republicans…
Did Ed ask Lieberman why he won’t support the winner of the primary if he loses, and why he feels he has to have it both ways?
I don’t believe the question was asked, but WATB is the answer.
Eli 210. That was my point a week ago.
I have a friend, perhaps even the love of my life, who wrote a letter to Safire when she was young (14) and had it discussed in his Sunday, “On Language” column in the NYTimes magazine section.
She still looks like a Botticelli to me.
http://www.mystudios.com/art/i…..l-1482.jpg
kalina 77 – yeah, ain’t the wilsons’ lawsuit a wonderful breath of fresh air (even as neocons start ww3)!
plus Val is a goodlookin blonde! MSM heads all exploding on how to ignore! :)
wonk the wonk and snark the snark.
*g*
Here is another article by Christopher Wolf, Wilson’s Attorney called A Legal Perspective on Net Neutrality:Existing Remedies and Lack of Ripeness Makes Regulation Perilous.
He is co chair of the public policy advocacy group “Hands off the Internet”, (or stop messing with my tubes!)
5 page .pdf warning
http://handsoff.org/hoti_docs/studies/wolf.pdf
One of my first front-page shouts on fdl was a Safire riff Jane thought worthy of acclaim. Safire’s language, I believe, is a gift to the ages. And the aged.
Yes, ember, an odd response I got from NARAL. Elizabeth used the words “our satisfaction” once too many times for me not to think that Ms. Shipp’s satisfaction needed investigation.
So, what satisfied Ms. Shipp? Only Senator Lieberman can say! Sez Elizabeth:
“I have read your note, and I know you are not happy with us for
endorsing Senator Joe Lieberman. Here at NARAL Pro-Choice America,
we’re very proud of our high standard for endorsement. That having
been said, from time to time, it does occasionally occur that a
pro-choice elected official will take a position against our
recommendation – and when that happens, it’s always a disappointment.
Senator Lieberman’s vote (and the same votes of other fully pro-choice
senators) for cloture on the controversial Alito nomination is one case
in point. And his comments about emergency contraception caused us
concern, as they undoubtedly did you as well – but he has since
clarified his position, to our satisfaction.”
Eli 210. That was my point a week ago.
I know. Hence my wariness.
I’m trying, really I am.
Request for assistance from San Francisco area FirePups:
Anybody up for attending a program tomorrow? John Rendon of Rendon Group (yeah, THAT Rendon Group, the one that sold Americans on the Iraq War) is the featured speaker at a seminar sponsored by The Long Now Foundation. I’ll pony up the ticket price of $10 if you’re up to attending and taking prolific notes for us.
I have a friend, perhaps even the love of my life
nice words
There ARE other women’s rights groups supporting Ned.
NOW – CT
Connecticut Choice Voice
I’m working on a little side project I’ll share w/ everybody tomorrow – Hoping to help point out exactly that – and WHY.
I’m going to be BEGGING you all for Letters to the editors too, I’ll have all the contact info asap, so please start thinking it over.
JoBlow: the new voice of Corporate NARAL
NARAL, when questioned about the endorsement, said that Joe had satisfied them when he clarified his position. When asked how it was clarified to their satisfaction, NARAL says go ask Joe and gives his phone #.
Looks to me like NARAL is overwhelmed with angry people calling and is hoping to deflect that anger away from them.
The good news is they are trying to deflect that anger towards HoJoe.
hey sharkbabe ya wanna double date with the Ambassador and the spy?
Eli, not for me to say, but your trying is mighty fine to see….
Rayne, not only did Rendon sell us the Iraq War, they are eagerly trying to sell us the Iran War.
And again, enabled by the neocon maladministration.
Sharkbabe:
If MSM obsession with blonds continues it should be all Valerie all the time for the next 6 months…ops…she is not missing and is against the Bush admin so…not so much.
Thanks, imm, I appreciate it.
sharkbabe at 221:
Valerie has class, something the Republicans know nothing about…
Rayne 225 – on wrong coast, but I’ll gladly chip in for tar & feathers
Sharkbabe- Yes- exactly- WTF. John Lewis has been a vocal critic of the Iraq invasion since whenever. And, the only emails I have ever had occasion to send to him have expressed support for his stances. I’m not at home at the moment- finally on vacation far away- otherwise I would be phoning his office. Maybe he’s just been secure in his House seat for so long he just doesn’t “get it” re: the Lieberman Lamont issue. That’s the kindest interpretation I’ve been able to come up with so far.
I was driving through Connecticut today near the small town of Goshen. There was a real funky handwritten lawn sign in someone’s yard announcing that Ned Lamont would be in town soon. It was pretty cool- I thought of y’all….
Valerie has class, something the Republicans know nothing about…
Cue Pat Peale purple-heart bandaid picture. Or Bar talking about how being refugees is really working out well for the Katrina victims.
Suzanne:
Got the same response. Call Joe. I sent a snippy note back to the effect that it was too bad they are not concerned about their continued relevance on this important issue.
I couldn’t let it go unanswered. My sister was denied plan B for no damn reason except she was in rural LA.
Teddy 230 she’s waaay too young and glam – even though I’m queer, hubby is more my speed and also teh cute – so we’d be fighting…
I hope all this Plamegate stuff is over by 2008, because I’d really like to see Valerie challenge John Warner for the Senate in Virginia.
omg grl fight with Sbabe over an Ambassador
MsAnnaNOLA 241
First story sad
Second tale: CRIMINAL.
So sorry….
That totally sucks, MsAnnaNOLA, totally sucks.
LOL – on an earlier thread I ventured a “shameless superficial observation” that Valerie Plame was very attractive. Got lots of agreement, and one mild reprimand for even thinking along those lines….
punaise @205
Eli, that’s what’s cool about FDL:
you can wonk the wonk and snark the snark.
As the FDL Train pulls out of the station …
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..-right-on/
… it goes
“wonk-a-snark-a, wonk-a-snark-a, ROOOOOTS-ROOOOOOTTTSSSsssss!!!“
ifthethunderdontgetya — hence my insatiable curiosity about the current sales job this guy is doing. If he’s on tap to sell the idea of the Iran War, what’s he doing at The Long Now Foundation? Sure, I can wait and get a download at some point, but I won’t be able to see who shows up for this event.
And in the Bay Area, too, of all places; is Rendon his own stalking horse, checking to see what will sell to the area with the most resistent to war and the folks with the longest perspective (I would expect a number of futurists in the crowd at this event).
Sharkbabe — I’d take you up on that offer if I could figure out how to shoot them effectively at the target from my locale here in the “north coast”.
Teddy Sf – I don’t think they live in virginia.
Rayne @ 226
Live here, can’t attend… But The Long Now Foundation podcasts – free DLoad. Listening to the Brian Eno piece from June 26 now!
http://www.longnow.org/projects/seminars/
AirportCat 248 – touchee
BTW, seeing “if the thunder dont get ya” remonds me of something.
Did you guys know Ann Coulter is a dead-head? I shit you not. she’s not an “uncle john’s band” head, but a travelling 70 show head.
Now, she’s from New Canaan, and went to Cornell undegrad, so thats not altogether unbelievable. What’s unbelievable is that she thinks shes more of a deadhaed than Al Frankin or Al Gore. I ghit you not.
http://www.jambands.com/Featur…..3.06.phtml
Whatever happened to her was really, really damaging.
OfT:
I got a wonderful thank you letter from shithot John Laesch who’s running for Congress against
THE SPEAKER
and deserves your support. Howie Klein (on this blog fdl) turned me on the this very polite young man I was too shy to say HI! to at YKos. So please donate to John Laesch, he writes a personal thank you letter and deserves your support here:
http://www.john06.com/about_john
Think how great it would be to defeat Tom Delay’s boss!
I’d really like to see Valerie challenge John Warner for the Senate in Virginia.
ooh baby – you gettin me hot talking like dat
lina – yeah the Wilsons live in disenfranchised DC – but residence issues haven’t stopped some of the repuke leading lights, i.e. Santorum
Pox News told me that Iran is behind Hezbolah’s attack on Israel from Lebanon.
No shit.
That’s why everyone who knew anything about the Middle East told Bush that occupying Iraq only made Iran (and Russia) stronger.
Dems have to hit this soundbyte hard. The media, at least some of them, will print it.
Whatever happened to her was really, really damaging.
Maybe a hippie broke her heart or something.
Twisted 216
Actually, Ed did sort of ask those questions, but HoJo answered with his stock answers.
Ed did not ask the important followup of, “But you’d be running against the nominee of the Democratic Party.”
Her happening to us is a lot more damaging, but boo-hoo for her.
Coulter hearts Pig Pen?
The Plame-Wilsons are both beautiful & patriotic! I admire their honesty and am proud to stand as a citizen behind, beside and hoping for justice for them and the US!
Sorry, my bad. Previous comment assumed facts not in evidence re subject’s heart.
Just got my Charlie Pride CD from Howie Klein in the mail today (ActBlue/Penberthy/FL-05 donation). Thanks, Howie! I’m not much of a country music buff, but a litle diversity won’t hurt.
imm @ 220
I always thought that girl/woman in Primavera looked like that actress ….um?
punaise at 247:
I didn’t think it was shameless, I wouldn’t mind someone describing me that way and I’m a professional woman…
Valerie’s beauty comes from her intelligence. She was a good CIA undercover operative and when she was outed, an entire operation collapsed…. something the appologists don’t want to mention.
But I can see Valerie there too
Expect “Iran Behind All This New Mayhem” propaganda 24/7 – this is it, folks – cheney junta is going for it – gods help us – kiss your children and friends and enjoy every second of the soon to be what used to be our country – that’s what I’m doing
She was a good CIA undercover operative and when she was outed, an entire operation collapsed…. something the appologists don’t want to mention.
An entire Iranian nuke-monitoring operation, IIRC.
No, that’s not embarrassing at all…
John in Sacramento, “um,” indeed.
Hah, yeppers. Jerry too.
The world just doesnt make any sense to me now.
kalina77 – agreed.
(my use of “shameless” was sort of gratuitously pre-emptive)
What’s the payoff for W? Will he join Ken Lay in the Cayman Islands? Having gotten oil to record highs without inflating the stock market AT ALL, all the while disenfranching the further indebted middle class… what’s his reward, Teddy wonders.
W’s overseen a conflagration in the Middle East while shredding our Constitution at home.
And yet there’s a Democrat supporting this wartime President. Who allowed the Theocrats to pack the Court with Dobson’s boys.
Joe Must Go.
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Eli at 268:
Yep! Amazing how the MSM glosses over that ‘little’ detail.
Huffpo seems to be leaving us in the dust on this “Slipping Into All-Out War…” thing.
“shameless superficial observation”
I saw that in scanning the comments, but missed that it was about Valerie. I just thought the sheer poetry of the phrase was so cool.
OK kiddo, agreed.
Heads up folks! I’ve got the Quinnipiac Polling questions. The poll runs this today through Monday the 17th. Based on their previous polling time for the NYC poll which also ended on a Monday, we can expect results next Thursday.
Since they just started today, my source has only done four hours worth of work. Thus, this is limited anecdotal evidence and yet Lieberman is polling poorly among both Dems and Repubs! Woohoo!
Just saw on fox they are obsessing about the latest missing blonde.
SharonW
You are playing me like a violin.
Don’t stop.
However we are not helpless and subject to these assholes – we can and will take down Dick Cheney and Ann Coulter – bullshit propaganda and calculated fear machine rolls over regular human shit? Think not. Never fucking has, never fucking will.
Based on their previous polling time for the NYC poll which also ended on a Monday, we can expect results next Thursday.
Oh, I can’t wait. The June 8 numbers were tantalizing with possibilities, all depending on whether Ned could build up credibility and name recognition (11% favorable opinion among CT Dems, 73% hadn’t heard enough).
newtonusr — yeah, the download feature at The Long Now is great, but I’d like somebody to do a crowd scan, look to see what crowd’s physical reaction is, make note of key folks in attendance.
Can’t get any of this content via download, unfortunately. This might be important if this guy is currently developing a sales pitch RIGHT NOW to promote a war on Iran based in no small part on what’s going on in Israel and Lebanon.
Google is a wonderful thing … Gwyneth Paltrow
Just saw on fox they are obsessing about the latest missing blonde.
It’s a damn good thing for Rove & Cheney that they didn’t kidnap Valerie Plame.
“I’m not much of a country music buff, but a litle diversity won’t hurt.”
Ever listen to any Steve Earle or The Band?
Levon Helm and the Band (minus Robbie Robertson) covered the Boss’ “Atlantic City.”
With that said, I bow to your superior cultural sensitivities.
Didn’t decide to kidnap, rather… Not sure it makes much sense otherwise.
Ya know, this Naral and PP central office endorsing HoJo crap reminds me way too much of when AARP endorsed the Medicare “reform”.
Their membership was outraged, too.
You are playing me like a violin.
Don’t stop.
imm you killin me with your expression tonite.
my very own ex who i’m still grievin was a sharon w. sharon ws are magic, i can attest.
TeddySanFran @ 272
I am wichu.
immanentize, you wouldn’t like my violin playing. Before my mom succumbed to allowing me to diddle my true musical love, piano, my violin practice sessions quickly turned to the whipping and slashing of the sheet music with the bow. :)
immanentize & Suzanne:
I believe it is criminal. I believe people who don’t want to dispense all drugs should not become pharmacists. They should have to swear an oath to fill the prescriptions. Period.
The good news is my sister didn’t really need it. It was prescribed “just in case” was sexually assaulted while studying abroad in a 3rd World country. (Got to love the Tulane University Student Health for thinking ahead for its students.)
The pharmacist who denied her prescription did not know that. For all he/she knew she had faced the worst, most brutal attack.
How can a person who dispenses drugs and sees people suffer every day have so little compassion? It should be against the law.
Again…I think we are fighting for women’s civil rights here. If Naral and our senators won’t fight for us I guess we are going to find someone or elect someone who will.
John Casper: Steve Earle — YES! http://www.steveearle.com/blog.html
TwistedMartini, andyourlittledogtoo -
I caught the last ten minutes of the Ed Schultz/Leiberman interview (and it is really hard to throw things at the radio while driving) but my recollection is that Ed did ask him those questions and Leiberman’s answers were basically:
“I’m not abandoning the party… If I lose the primary I’ll be running as an ‘independent democrat’…my country and my state matter more to me than my party…I just know I’m better than the other guy…”
Those are pretty much direct quotes, the way I remember it. He also whined and hammered on Ned as a one-issue candididate “He’s anti-war, he’s anti-war”.
Never thought I could despise any dem politician the way I do Bush and Cheney. That’ll teach me.
Urban Pirate, I became a deadhead in the late (late!) seventies, and living in NYC with easy access to Madison Square Garden from 1984 – until D.O.J. (death of Jerry) really sealed the deal.
Don’t know what happened to Coulter, but I think pride in her ‘union busting’ daddy must have something to do with the black hole that is her soul.
Punaise 263
Me, too!
Made one of our Dogstuff employees very happy. :)
John Casper
Ever listen to any Steve Earle or The Band?
Levon Helm and the Band (minus Robbie Robertson) covered the Boss’ “Atlantic City.”
nope to both, alas. I have heard some good Robbie R. solo stuff. What I’ve heard about Steve Earle is good.
With that said, I bow to your superior cultural sensitivities.
tisk, tisk: not superior – just different….
Steve Earle’s “Guitar Town” – a classic. And don’even get me started on Emmylou, my all-time favorite. Seen her dozens of times.
Never thought I could despise any dem politician the way I do Bush and Cheney. That’ll teach me.
Bush and Cheney are just being Republicans. They are what they are, and they’re true to their party as it is currently constituted.
Lieberman displays utter contempt for his own party and undermines it at every turn.
And apparently entirely by choice, since he doesn’t seem to be bringing back much pork in exchange…
MsAnnaNOLA @ 291
This is what makes RGJoe’s statement so horrific. Someone’s “principle” shouldn’t be bought with the price of another person’s health. Basta!
my very own ex who i’m still grievin was a sharon w. sharon ws are magic, i can attest.
Why, sharkbabe, how sweet! And, might I immodestly add, how perceptive of you. ;)
Shoephone 293
You got the HoJo answers just right.
Made me seethe all over again. First time I was shopping in Costco and I had to behave myself.
Back at the office I can snarl and grind my teeth.
BTW, Costco has the John Dean book for $14.95. Didn’t buy it because I’ll be downloading it from Audible.com, but I did slide several copies over on top of the Coultergeist books.
Copperhead Road
Sharkbabe. Thanks of course. But: magic?!
Magic in fact.
I feel a big “missin’ you” comin’ on.
G’night sweet dogs of the lake. Catch y’all on the flip side.
MsAnna – that’s why we are going to kick Lieberman out of power and put everyone in this political class on notice that their days are numbered. Is there a single person in the Senate to whom reproductive rights issues resonate personally? No. Fucking old way-past-reproducing-age fucks, why should they give a fuck? Well they should on principle, but there’s that money. It’s all wrong and corrupt and been going on too long and now it’s a crisis and we’re going to right it.
Can anyone explain to me why a child of priviledge choosing to apply his personal wealth to running for public office is inferior in any way to a preofessional politician who is spending 3 times as much which was donated by others?
Especially when those others are , largely, corporate interest groups.
I think Lamont’s largly self funded campaign is inherently MORE trustworthy than Lieberman’s
Reverse spin is best countered by a careful examination of the faulty logic.
WRT to the Q poll, I’m also pretty interested in seeing the response to question 10 which asks:
Some people seem to follow what’s going on in government and public affairs most of the time, whether there’s an election or not. Others aren’t that interested. Would you say you follow what’s going on in government and public affairs most of the time, some of the time, only now and then or hardly at all?
I’ll be curious to see how politically aware my fellow nutmeggers are. I’m betting more rather than less compared to much of the U.S. although there probably aren’t any comparable statistics.
It’s a good question to ask on any poll really.
Is there a single person in the Senate to whom reproductive rights issues resonate personally? No. Fucking old way-past-reproducing-age fucks, why should they give a fuck?
I bet some of ‘em have slutty daughters like the Bushettes. I think it’s more a matter of their wealth and power insulating them from the effects of their policies.
(Isn’t there a historian who uses that as his main explanation of why civilizations fail? Jared Diamond, maybe?)
I’ll be curious to see how politically aware my fellow nutmeggers are. I’m betting more rather than less compared to much of the U.S.
I sure hope so. And it *is* a blue state, after all.
I sure hope so. And it *is* a blue state, after all.
True. (double entendre intended) ;)
Gods love Steve Earle. Goodnight and love you all, human words and fun and thought, against all the horror that the sad fucked-up ones are continually concocting – it never ends but we win, we always do.
It’ll be interesting watching the Bushettes mature. They’re the first women since their grandmothers not to have killed a boyfriend with a car (that we know of). Interesting to see what psychic scars are avoided.
It’ll be interesting watching the Bushettes mature.
Get older, you mean.
Schlessinger (R): Connecticut fake name gambler
Lieberman (D or maybe CforL): Connecticut fake party Senator
or maybe CforL
Hey, it could stand for “Crooks for Liars”.
& special goodnight to SharonW (a main reason me and mine parted was she didn’t have it in her to talk/care enough about these world things that keep me awake at night – still good breakup & great friends – man that magic of our beginning, neither of us will ever not reel from it I think)
CNN reporting that prison inmates are fighting fires in southern California. Could this be because the national guard is in Iraq?
TeddySF, there’s still time. They’re still single, footloose and fancy-free. Maybe that’s why Bush gave one of BF’s a job in the Whitehouse. There’s nothing like the SS to ward off imminent car attacks.
Aww, g’night, sharkbabe. Sweet dreams.
Zennurse -
You still here?
Were you the one posting Barbaro updates?
If so, I got something for you.
Its good stuff.
If not, who was it?
LindaR @ 316
It’s actually a pretty common practice with minimum security prisoners, in CA and elsewhere. The prisoners get time off their sentences, the community gets some help, and it’s all good.
During the Midwest floods of 1993, I remember the same thing going on in Missouri, Iowa, and elsewhere, as prisoners helped to build up threatened leavees. In 1988, I was in Wyoming, and there were prisoners there fighting wildfires.
The war in Iraq may not help matters in terms of National Guard availability, but this is something that’s been going on for quite a while longer than Dubya’s mideast misadventures.
Peterr — thanks for the info. I am so quick to blame everything on the W!
shoephone says: “And don’even get me started on Emmylou, my all-time favorite.”
July 13th, 2006 at 7:27 pm
How do you like her recent collaboration with Mark Knopfler – their All the Road Running CD?
Ms AnnaNOLA @ #291 said:
“I believe it is criminal. I believe people who don’t want to dispense all drugs should not become pharmacists. They should have to swear an oath to fill the prescriptions. Period.”
Two of my ex-students studied pharmacy. One is now a pharmacist. The other is going to a pharmacy graduate program in Utah. They both say many young pharmacy students come from Evangelical and other conservative Christian backgrounds. Both are less liberal than me, but seeing them both this summer, I brought your point up – in my own way. They would both agree with you 100%.
Peterr, you’re still around. Thought of you when I saw this on Think Progress, something called the Progressive Faith Blogger Con:
http://blog.faithinpubliclife……morro.html
Maybe you mentioned it somewhere, but I missed it if you did.
new thread
new thread — more Ned !
T- I’m one of several following the saga of Barbaro. There was just a very discouraging story on CNN, so if you have good news, I’d like to hear it.
Everyone else, I’m late to the party, but can I play the nicknames-for-Hadassah game? How about Viagra vixen? Or Bayer babe? Now back to watching the Middle East explode…
Stepehn Parrish – I heard part of it a couple of weeks ago on a local college station, and I like it! Not to dis Mark Knopffler at all, but I really think every project she’s a part of automatically gets edged up a few notches in quality.
And if I could look half as beautiful in my 50’s with all that silver hair…
I last saw her two years ago with Buddy Miller – “Stumble Into Grace”. The first time was back in ‘75, her first solo tour.
Oklahoma kiddo
I agree. This ginned up stuff about IDF prisoners being tranferred to Iran is profoundly troubling (I wish I had some gin). The real problem is the Iranian oil bourse now in operation. I always thought based on conversations with commodity traders and economists that war with Iran was inevitable once that bourse got going. The problem is that trading oil in euros could have a dramatic negative effect on the previously exclusive trading of oil in us dollars. Thus artificially propping up the us dollar since anyone who need oil (everybody) needs to acquire us dollars first.
new t’read
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..one-right/
Re John Dean, didn’t he write an article somewhere shortly after the Plame fiasco began that the Wilsons ought to sue? Just asking. I seem to recall the suggestion by Dean from the beginning.
RR @ 331
Yes, I believe he did – you’ll find all his Findlaw Writ column’s archived here.
Joe evidently hopes that revealing the size of Ned’s income will instill populist resentment. But not in CT, the richest of states, where nobody resents another’s success.
Barbarab – just a couple of cool pics.
Nothing good on Barbaro, unfortunately.
I spotted 2 Lieberman yard signs on RT190 Enfield today in front of a packy – I almost vomitted.