
. The Hotline Blogometer is saying that weak GOP candidate Schlesinger may drop out of the race because of (*cough*) "gambling" problems. Locals have been saying for a while that if Lieberman runs as an independent then the GOP might come in, launch a real candidate and try to take the seat. A possibility that would not exist if Lieberman just accepted the will of the Democrats on August 8 and pledged, like Ned, to support the winner in November. (There are also rumors that the GOP is clearing the field to join NARAL and endorse Joe themselves.) Screw the party, once again it's All About Joe. (hat tip Matt Stoller)
. In Lieberman's book In Praise of Public Life he indicates that when he's running for office he polls every day. So the horrible decisions he's making can only be seen as driven by the even worse things he's learing from his pollsters. His brilliant political instincts have now got him bragging about all the earmarks he's bagged, as he did in the debate. Does someone want to tell Joe that this might not play too well with the Republicans he's courting? He's already earned the enmity of the liberal blogosphere, it should be interesting to see him walk into the sights of the Porkbusters set too.
. Ned's Messy Desk commercial has been viewed over 125,000 times. It's great. You can see it here.
. Colin McEnroe has a podcast of his interview of Ralph Nader up (I'm in there too somewhere). As Colin says, "Nader is like kryptonite for Joe....He remembers icky stuff that Lieberman has done that even Lieberman doesn't remember." Well worth a listen.
. As seen in the debate, Joe has evidently got a bug up his ass about Annie and Ned Lamont's tax returns (watch millionaire Joe try to play the class card) and he's polling about that too. So Joe Conason quite fairly asks this morning -- why won't Lieberman release the tax returns and financial information regarding his pharmaceutical lobbyist wife Hadassah? It's especially relevant in light of Holy Joe's big bucks donations from Big Pharma and his enthusiastic support of regressive drug legislation that hurts consumers, especially old people. I'd just like to remind everyone that Hadassah's firm, Hill and Knowlton, are the ones who completely fabricated the story about Iraqi soldiers snatching babies out of incubators and killing them during the first Gulf War. That's some high moral ground.
. Arianna lays in to Bill Clinton, who made the comment that Democrats "ought to be whipped if we allow our differences over what to do now over Iraq divide us." I have to say I agree with Bill. If all the hawks will just admit that they were wrong, pour themselves a nice tall glass of STFU and throw Lieberman under the bus we can get about the business listening to those who have been right about this matter all along. It really is the most sensible way to find a solution.
. If you're an unaffiliated voter looking to switch parties in Connecticut in order to be able to vote in the primary, you have until August 7 to do it. The Secretary of State says interest in the primary is causing increased unaffiliated voter switching.
. Harold Meyerson in the Washington Post: "Lieberman's ultimate problem isn't fanatical bloggers, any more than Lyndon Johnson's was crazy, antiwar Democrats. His problem is that Bush, and the war that both he and Bush have championed, is speeding the ongoing realignment of the Northeast. His problem, dear colleagues, is Connecticut."
. Paul Bass reports that one of the founders of the "What Can You Do For Joe Lieberman" Party, Vincent Mauro, is somewhat less than enthusiastic about the job he got his arm twisted volunteered for.
. And Crooks & Liars has an oldie-but-goodie up of Holy Joe calilng out those of us who criticized the President and his war as traitors. Lest we forget.
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Hamdan!
And NSA spying.
OK, and Ned.
Can’t decide which I like better: “Taxi Ride Joe” or “Rape Gurney Joe.”
Not Prof. So there!
Q: What do you get when you cross Clairol with Nair?
A: NARAL. a useless product that produces silken hairballs.
That pic looks Norman Rockwellian.
“If all the hawks will just admit that they were wrong, pour themselves a nice tall glass of STFU and throw Lieberman under the bus…”
Har.
“Arianna lays into Bill Clinton”
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner
I wish she wouldn’t have dropped out of the recall election because I would’ve voted for her
BLOG POWER
WE WILL PREVAIL
WE ARE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DISCUSSION!
Is anyone local to New Haven CT who might be able to go to town hall tomorrow?
Email me pls - Montauk190 at aol.com
I just want Lieberman to come in third in a two way race . . .
If you haven’t checked in on the next-to-last thread lately, you need to see what’s devloped there since your last visit . . . including http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....ent-185917
Assuming he loses the primary, does Joe need for there to be a Republican candidate, from an image perspective?
In other words, if there’s a Dem and a Repub running, he can position himself as The Reasonable Moderate Trangulating Centrist. But if it’s just him vs. Democrat Ned, doesn’t that make Joe *look* more like a Republican?
I’m talking about what people’s subliminal impressions might be, even if they don’t think about it consciously.
Or maybe I’m just looking for a silver lining in freeing up more Republican voters to vote for Joe…
This bears repeating:
“If all the hawks will just admit that they were wrong, pour themselves a nice tall glass of STFU and throw Lieberman under the bus we can get about the business listening to those who have been right about this matter all along. It really is the most sensible way to find a solution.”
AMEN SISTER
Especially since it’s the key to the election (as Bill clearly realizes as well).
(Sorry, I find myself full of caps today!)
“If all the hawks will just admit that they were wrong, pour themselves a nice tall glass of STFU and throw Lieberman under the bus…”
Har.
Under the short ride bus.
Oscarsmom “BLOGPOWER”
Check it out www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.07/people.html
And the media are weapons of mass distraction.
Jane,
“In Lieberman’s book In Praise of Public Life he indicates that when he’s running for office he polls every day.”
Using logic on the above statement tells me that Joe ain’t liking what he’s seein’.
If he did, we’d surely be hearin’ about all that good poll news Joe has.
Wonder if Joe knows how to swim, cuz’ when the boat is sinkin’, it’s time to go!
Urban, YGM!
Mad Dogs @19:
The fact that he polls constantly is further proof of just how entitled he feels. If he’s reading polls, he should have some sense that his constituents don’t feel that he’s representing them. And yet, his response to said polls is never to, y’know, make any attempt to better represent them. To cling to power, he will do absolutely anything… except his job.
daily polling aint cheap
And yes, I am extrapolating that if he polls every day when he’s campaigning, that he polls at least fairly frequently when he’s senatoring. But then again, maybe election season is the *only* time that he cares what his constituents think. But that would also prove my point…
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — A Hamas militant leader who has topped Israel’s most-wanted list for a decade was badly wounded and underwent four hours of spinal surgery Wednesday after an Israeli F-16 warplane dropped a quarter-ton bomb that killed nine members of one family, security officials said. …
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — A bomb dropped by an Israeli warplane destroyed the Palestinian Foreign Ministry building early Thursday, witnesses said. …
Sorry!
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin.....nians.html
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin.....trike.html
most folk in the world know who built and paid for those F-16s …
Hey Jane!
God bless you for doing such great work on unseating the Leaverman!
Sorry to say real life won’t let me catch up on comments, or contribute to Firepup discussions as I’d like right now.
However, heads up alert to all Firepoodles (in case no one else mentioned it today):
Tonight on PBS American Masters program:
Woody Guthrie: Ain’t Got No Home
Everybody here knows who Woody is, right? Not just that he was Arlo’s dad, but that his guitar had emblazoned on it “This Machine Kills Fascists” and that he championed labor (and got beaten up for his troubles) and fought against corporatism and wrote incredibly powerful songs about the Depression and the Dust Bowl. His musical voice can be thought of as the rallying cry for the dispossessed of the Grapes of Wrath. [BTW, there’s a good bio-pic on Woody called “Bound for Glory” with iirc Keith Carradine playing Woody Guthrie.]
The program’s an hour and a half or so. Our DVD will catch it for sure. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Springsteen interviewed for notions of Woody’s impact today.
For some time I’ve been saying, look to see the FDR era get lots more play in the public consciousness, and it’s happening more and more each day.
It’s almost as if Karl opened a door and said come on over Joe the water is fine.
Well, looks like trouble for the Queen of the Mean Party.
Jean “Cowards cut and run” Harris is tied in her very Republican district.
From Political Wire:
“In fact, Schmidt is less popular than embattled President George W. Bush. Democratic candidate Victoria Wulsin is in a strong position to capture this seat in November.”
-GSD
Interesting Freudian slip there, GSD, “Harris” for “Schmidt” … FL for OH . . .
yep, that’s our war too, *ilson. the silence from the admin is still deafening …
Unaffiliated voter switching? — can’t imagine why, unless . . . it’s a sign that millions of Americans have been waiting for an opportunity to tell incumbents who supprted the Bush occupation of our government what they think about it. The looks like a very signficant phenomenon. I can’t open the link; is there any mention of how big this event is?
The Schmidt and Harris LIEberman party
My my. Quite the goings on up there in sleepy ole Connecticut. We’ve got a hot Senate primary, a defecting Democrat, a debate showing up on national broadcast, cable news shows and blogs going full bore on the primary up there, charges and counter-charges flowing between the Democrat candidates, the Senate R teamer rumored to be dropping out over GAMBLING controversies, and further rumors of another R teamer about to enter the race as an ANTI-WAR R teamer. Not to mention another duly elected Senator missing HIS TRAIN the other day?? What in THE HELL is going on up there??
Looks like ace reporter/op editor/blogger Ms. Jane Hamsher has done stepped off into a hurricane. And all in sleepy ole Connecticut. Go figure.
Ghostman
Whenever I hear that Odious Joe was a stalwart in the civil rights movement I am reminded of former California wingnut congressman B-1 Bob Dornan who was on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial for the MLK “I have a dream” speech.
Ronald Reagan was once a Democrat too.
-GSD
Ghostman, CT ain’t that sleepy…especially down south.
Thanks for the link, john in Sac!
(I grew up in Davis, BTW!)
*ilson46201 at 22:
“daily polling aint cheap”
And for those seekin’ the truth, always follow the money!
Mail back at ya, Angie.
Just as a word of caution, let’s remember that we undermine R.G. Joe’s credibility at his peril.
Oh yeah. Cruella DeBush/Katherine Harris’ latest staff have all quit. She goes through staff like a ten year old goes through Pez.
-GSD
Jane, the link to “unaffiliated voter switching”
gets a NewHavenRegister.com logo atop a blank page.
Schmidt is less popular than W?
That’s BAD, woman!
If the Dems don’t get this seat, it’s all over!
Not a lot of sleeping going on in Uncasville either. Lots of doubling down though.
-GSD
Mrs K8 - 27
Whoa, thanks for the heads-up on the Guthrie. And it’s narrated by Peter Coyote. whoo hoo.
Linky on A.Bag’s latest staff, GSD?
Eli at 21:
“And yet, his response to said polls is never to, y’know, make any attempt to better represent them.”
Must be gettin’ those polls from the Rove and the RNC ‘cuz he walks like a Repuglican!
Lotus,
I am full of them today.
Harris/Schmidt.
Maldives/Malvinas.
Cheney/Pig-fucking douchemonger.
-GSD
Jenny –
Ooooh, Peter Coyote! Didn’t know that. Thank you for that piece of info.
Hope you’re doing well. It’s always good to see you in these parts.
Off to do physical therapy now, will check in later this evening as time permits…
Hugs to you and all my Firepup pals.
Hi, Mrs. K8 - hugs to you, and it’s glad to see you pop in when you can. Thanks for the heads-up on Woody.
Oscarsmom - Yay Davis!
Katherine Harris’ sinking ship.
Linkerdoo:
http://politicalwire.com/archi.....again.html
-GSD
Douchemonger…. I like it. It sounds so…. French.
Two threads ago, I posted quotes from the latest Lieberman mailer that came today in which he claimed every D woman in the senate endorsed him. (I don’t know how to link to a particular comment, so sorry on that. Hippo thread #139 at 1:48)
Rayne asked for a scanned copy — if Rayne and anyone else would like me to send a scanned copy tomorrow (PDF) please send your e-mail to askme [at] WhatNursesKnow [dot] com and I should be able to get to it before noon.
I am going to the couch with Mr. Kirby, so please don’t request in the thread — I could miss it.
Thanks, Mrs. K8! I took a look to see if it was airing in my area and saw the details. Also, it’s a new program which makes me ecstatic. I assumed it would be a re-run.
You’re the best!
lotus @ 4:33 pm (#42) - From the page source, it appears that the NHR requires Javascript to show article text. Could be wrong, but that’s what the arrangement of the tea leaves indicates. To me, any site that feels the need to use Javascript to show static text is a site to be avoided.
EPU’d, below…
Media Alert: LIEberman will guest on Don Imus tomorrow.
This morning Imus was trying to strong-arm Rep. Harold Ford, Jr. (D) Tennessee (currently running for Senate) into saying Ford would continue to support Joe if he loses the Dem. Primary, Aug. 8. (Happy to report - No Sale!)
Here’s the skinny on Joe from the MSNBC web site:
If anyone has the gumption to contact Imus’ producers before the show airs tomorrow; (you know, to give them even more reasons why RG Joe’s in trouble)… you can “school ‘em: email Imus’ staff pre-interview here
If Maliki keeps it up with this talk, he’s going to end up in a ditch somewhere with an ace of spades shoved in his ass and with Ahmed Chalabi as the new Prime Minister.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....estigation
-GSD
Ahhh, la di dah — this also from Wonkette:
Today in Katherine Harris: Everyone Quit, Again. Probably.
Would someone mind posting the link to the interview? I’d like to listen to it but the page Miss Jane linked to is confusing and the link is not apparent.
Thanks!
I’m confused about the tax return thing. I saw Lamont’s response on the debate. Why *doesn’t* Lamont release his tax returns? I’m just curious - it seems a little weird not to just release them, if only to get Joe to shut the f*ck up about it.
I didn’t realize until Christy’s post that Lieberman is actually forming a new party:
http://www.newhavenindependent.....aide_h.php
Surely blogpower can check out some of these names . . . .
Please take a minute to read this about Ohio’s new Voter ID act. Shameful.
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/n.....999696.htm
“Ohio Democratic Party Chairman Chris Redfern said money should not be a factor in preserving the ability to vote.
‘`Franchise is the foundation of our democracy,” Redfern said. “Cuddling the few brochures at a community fair simply won’t do.”
But state Sen. Jeff Jacobson, R-Dayton, said Democrats are using scare tactics.
“If anyone tells me they got disenfranchised, I’ll think they got their copy of the talking points. I won’t take it as a legitimate thing,” said Jacobson, who shepherded the bill in the Senate. “I think they’re grasping at straws and they’re down at the bottom of the box.”’
[……..]
“Surely blogpower can check out some of these names . . . .“
I did yesterday. They’re mostly all just previous Lieberman donors. Not particularly shocking :)
On the tax return thing, I’ve always felt queazy about that. Tax returns should be private, like medical records. Am I wrong on this one?
Seattle at 60, I can’t find it either. There is a link at the top of the page for Audio, and under that a button for Podcasts, but the Nader interview wasn’t listed on the Podcast page that I could see, nor on the main page.
seattle @ 60:
’cause someone in his income/net worth level inevitably has something that can be made to look fishy, even if he’s exploiting loopholes written by the demogogue he’s running against.
Israel is mobilizing their reserves as 8 troops are killed in fighting in Lebanon.
Israeli ships in Lebanese waters.
Lebanese civilians fire guns and offer candy after hearing of Israeli troops abducted by Hezbollah.
Israel has said they do not have plans to move on Syria.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/737634.html
-GSD
In case you’re wondering, the GOP’s likely replacement candidate in CT is US Attorney Kevin O’Connor.
Anyone for apizza at Sally’s and a lemon ice at Libby’s?
Oops, my bad! My #66 should have been addressed to Tim Wayne at 59.
Tim Wayne -
If you check the archives for Jane’s original post, that link to the site might work.
“Donny Deutsch Shatters the Coulter Myth”
http://www.crooksandliars.com/.....lter-myth/
eris 68, who do you know that?
Jenny ftB, thanks for the suggestion - here’s a direct link to the page with the podcasts for Jane and Ralph.
eris, that was supposed to say HOW, not WHO
Ann Coulter gets dumped from Cedar Rapids paper.
Adios Nazi-etta.
http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp.....1002838462
-GSD
Seattle #61–I don’t have a link, but I heard that Lamont said he was reluctant to disclose the tax returns because he was afraid it would be invasive of his wife’s privacy BUT he has said he will do it.
Also BTW, Holy Joe is not releasing HIS pharmaceutical-company-lobbying wife’s tax records, either!
(P.S. Yay Davis! Yay Seattle! :) )
Also BTW, Holy Joe is not releasing HIS pharmaceutical-company-lobbying wife’s tax records, either!
Humble, salt-of-the-earth types like Joe and Haddassah couldn’t possibly have anything suspect in their modest, just-getting-by-on-a-government-salary tax returns…
Sooner or later the Israeli government, with tacit and overt approval of American fundamentalists and neo-cons will ignite world war III. And if Lieberman is re-elected he will continue to be in the thick of it, working against world peace.
Anne Coulter, Katherine Harris and Mean Jean should all get together tonight for a brew (the witch kind)! LOL
My God, Oscarsmom … remember when Mary leveled troll Sashland and al-Scooter said he hadn’t seen cratering like that since he walked a B-52 strike in (I guess) Nam?
That’s what a convergence of those three would HAVE to produce . . .
Anne Coulter, Katherine Harris and Mean Jean should all get together tonight for a brew (the witch kind)! LOL
The sit-com: Charlie’s Devils? The Gawdawful Squad?
KO leads with Rummy making a joke (a sick one) about the ARMY’s lack of equipment in Iraq…
Don’t forget their sidekick Michelle.
Barbara Boxer in KO right now.
The sit-com: Get Smut
punaise, baby! How did you find Zidane’s explanation, pray?
punaise @ 86 - argh. you win.
Direct link to Colin McEnroe podcast featuring Nader (mentioned above)
punaise @ 86 - argh. you win.
I have him at 87. But posting that at 86 would have been truly brilliant.
punaise? Zidane? I do not see this comment. ???
Oscarsmom at 79:
“Anne Coulter, Katherine Harris and Mean Jean should all get together tonight for a brew (the witch kind)! LOL”
LOL! The mental image of them slurppin’ suds and belchin’ brimstone is too much!
I just tuned to Countdown - does Boxer seem… preoccupied, or am I just projecting?
(I wonder if he’ll ask her about Joe)
nevermind, I have conflated punaise’s 87 with lotus’ 88.
for lotus:
From the same locals that talk to Jane, apparently. The second link under the picture - where it says “a real candidate” - is O’Connor’s USDOJ page (the link was broken).
Eli, please let us know if he does - I would love to see someone put her on the spot about that.
Eli, please let us know if he does - I would love to see someone put her on the spot about that.
Especially since she’s basically talking about how horrible and awful the war is.
Zidane gave an interview on Canal-Plus today; I heard a report of it on NPR’s The World. Basically he apologized “to the children” (think of the children!) but said he did not regret his actions. Said Materozzi (sp?) had repeated several insults about his sister/mother, but Zidane did not cite specifics. The French public seems to be forgiving him.
I don’t see the question coming…
D’oh — I gotta start checking ALL links in a post lest I ask anymore dumb questions. Thought I knew what that one signified, but I was wrong. Thanks, eris.
I’m so disappointed in Boxer’s endorsement of Lieberman. But I really like her. She’s doing a great job standing up for our soldiers on KO tonight.
How can this woman stand by RGJ?
The closest we got was a question about whether the Dems will ever have a consensus on Iraq.
eli - I have him at 87. But posting that at 86 would have been truly brilliant.
On my screen it’s 86. Not that I planned it that way.
How can this woman stand by RGJ?
Joe must have some kind of miraculous hypnotic powers to get her and PP and NARAL to all support him, despite his being anathema to their core positions..
Next up, Man-on-Dog Santorum! Rudy’s really descending into the excrement. Tweety still pegs him as the GOP’s 2008 prez candidate.
On my screen it’s 86. Not that I planned it that way.
There’s probably a de-moderated comment in there somewhere…
86 on mine too, Eli, even after a page refresh.
What do you know that we don’t?
Tweety still pegs him as the GOP’s 2008 prez candidate.
that’s the Cialis talking.
Rudy’s really descending into the excrement. Tweety still pegs him as the GOP’s 2008 prez candidate.
Who would we rather have as a Republican nominee, him or McCain? Who would we rather have as a president (God forbid)?
yoohoo all, Deo popped back in at the end of the yawning hippo thread ;)
I just refreshed, and now he’s at 86. So I must have had it backwards, and something got deleted.
Well played, punaise!
I think we’d much rather have Giuliani as a candidate, but it’ll never happen
Jim, you’re right.
Fugedaboutit
Giuliani’s Republican Convention speech was so full of petty grade school smarm, I’d never vote for him for anything. What a creep. And I’m not even mentioning his bona fides as a low-life “family” man.
Bet I’m not the only one here who enjoyed Tom Robbins’ Even Cowgirls Get the Blues. Remember The Big Red Flavor Machine? We-elllll . . .
Japanese Gadget Records, Replicates Odor
#83 The Plutonium Girls?
OT - any Kos members here? Bob Johnson has a positively astonishing diary up - he’s repented of his liberal ways! (Can you say psyops? I knew you could.)
‘WaPo’ Online Comments a Hit, Says Editor — Soon on All of Site’s Stories
Giuliani’s Republican Convention speech was so full of petty grade school smarm,
to say nothing of the Big Lie that got Tweety and Russert all excited: that bullshit story about looing over at Bernie Kerick and saying “Thank GOD George W Bush is our President”
punaise - I transferred your call from line 87 to 86. “Better reception”!
Thanks, Chief
I say Rudy can get a job running all the crooks off K street.
oh wait…
Love all things Tom Robbins, lotus!
Copied forward from a couple of threads back, for looseheadprop’s information:
Deo et Patriae says:
July 12th, 2006 at 5:14 pm
I’m back. I actually have things to do other than post on this board … clients, you know.
Time? Well, my AUSA friend and I had just come back from Italian Village where I had a Caesar salad … so it was probably 1:30 or 1:45.
And all this “Pat” referencing is rich. I’ve known of Fitzgerald since he went to Regis (my brother went there and also went to Harvard Law).
Fitzgerald will always do the right thing and, unless he wants to leave, he’s probably safe through this administration. There’s a difference between Bush and Bush’s brain … and confusing the two will lead to errors.
[Thanks for these details, Deo — it does start to sound like the decision about who would hold the City Hall verdict press conference may play into the bigger Plame picture.]
What school’s mott is “Deo et Patriae”?
Rather an intriguing sign-off there, wannit.
MottO
Leslie in Ca — Hi! That Kos diary has to be a parody, no?
Jim @ 120 — Oh, I had put that crappy comment out of my head. That drives me crazy when I hear that big lie repeated.
lotus– tis from Regis.
my school’s motto was “Doh! … Partay!”