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"Four Empty Heads" video by CTBob
Plants!
According to the NY Observer, that’s what paranoid ol’ Joe Lieberman — without any kind of evidence at all — insists that the polite young woman who questioned his position vis-a-vis the Democratic party on Monday was:
Joe Lieberman was incensed.
He’d just been confronted at a campaign event for Irish supporters in his hometown of Stamford, Conn., by a woman who lectured him about his lack of commitment to the Democratic Party.
"She was a plant," said Mr. Lieberman, complaining to two campaign staffers in the parking lot behind the Irish Tigín Pub. "It was a set-up."
This, writ small, is what has become of Mr. Lieberman’s political career.
No actually she wasn’t, she’s a local Stamford resident, an Irish American (Maura) who was absolutely entitled to be there (unless Joe is now trying to purge all genuine Democrats from the party). Joe has evidently bought his own "great man" bullshit and can’t imagine why any Democrat would question his loyalty after he’s pledged to respect their opinion in the matter of his candidacy on August 8 — well, not at all actually.
Looks like Joe’s own local support is — uh, from all apearances a bit droopy (Limbaugh-esque?) From a mailer to out-of-state residents:
Senator Lieberman is a national figure, and our fight for Connecticut’s future has taken on national importance. Volunteers are signing up from around the country to help re-elect Joe, and most of these folks will be driving up and flying in the weekend before August 8th. Can you help these hard workers by giving them a place to stay?
Let us know if you can contribute supporter housing for a volunteer!
These volunteers are giving up vacations and weekends to fight for the future of Connecticut. Please welcome them while they’re here.
Let us know if you can contribute supporter housing for a volunteer!
Now it would be one thing for a political newcomer to do this, but an 18 year Senator who can’t even pull enough volunteers in his own state to support his campaign? As Digby says, the optics on this one are just awful.
(thanks to Susan N. for the Lieberman letter)
Update: Just click here. Fuck that’s funny. I think we’ve reached the tipping point.
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I talked to TRex today. Miss him…
Wow, my first “0″
NED!
FITZ!
ROOTZ!
I’m telling ya – he’s going to have trouble getting those signatures…
JANE!
NED!
FITZ!
KOBE!
Jon Stewart is having a hell of a lot of fun about Internet Neutrality and poor Senator Stevens, etc
Stewart ripping on Ted Stevens’ internet tubes on the daily show
Wow, my first “0″
The Fitzx is in.
Plants, eh?
As ye sow, so shall ye reap.
Oh, man…did Stewart get Stevens or what! I was keeping my fingers crossed that the distinquished senator’s remix would be played, but no… My son burned me the remix on a CD and I played it all the way to Fort Myers today laughing my ass off.
The full moon is waning…thank God.
Great video CT Bob.
Joe Lieberman was incensed.
that explains the patchouli smell….
As ye sow, so shall ye reap.
Should we fear the reaper?
punaise: remarks like that can get you censered !
Plants? After seeing the picture of Hannity and Lieberman, I was thinking “definitely vegetables”.
Hope #11:
So Novakula will be clamming up unti early August?
Now Stewart on to Lieberman…
I think we’ve got Jon Stewart against Lieberman
Jon now taking on Joenertia and Nedmentum and some other races.
Pretty soon he is going to have his thugs monitor the cars coming in so he can make sure no one with certain bumper stickers are allowed to enter.
I bet future campaign stops will resemble Bush’s staged events. It is funny that he has to bring people in from out of town because he can’t find enough paid ‘volunteers’ locally. Amazing
How could Jon pass on the freaky fetus thing on his list of things you may not know about Rick Santorum???
Plants you say, posion ivy or sumac it would seem. A little itchy there Joe? Seems like you rub up against the truth and you break out in rash.
Perhaps Hadassaha can call in some favors from the Pharmaceutical lobby, and get you some greenback balm to soothe your irritation.
*ilson46201
punaise: remarks like that can get you censered !
yeah, banished to the Ol’ Factory.
Perhaps Joe should learn to sing this tune…
Goper’s Lament (Hard To Be A Republican)
Wow. How many signatures do Senators need and when is the filing date?
Our here in Wisconsin was yesterday. One of my opponents (ok, my primary opponent) only cleared 216 (200 required to make the ballot).
The Republican opponent to Herb Kohl didn’t bother to turn in his papers, so Kohl is virtually unopposed.
One hour before the close of office hours, the system the state has paid $14M for crashed. Check here for more details – http://wisconion.blogspot.com/…..-lost.html
Lots of fun here in WI ;^|
Stewart did a great Lieberman impression, where he just mumbled some whiny words.
http://www.oliverwillis.com/
Check out this kickass ad (youtube) from the DSSC. Whatever we might think of Rahm Emmanuel and Co., this is good stuff.
Noonan – for some reason the number 7500 sticks in my head… of course, that’s VALID signatures…
Noonan: with only 16 more signatures than the minimum needed, go over every single signature and check for frauds — I guarantee you will knock out at leasdt 17. It’s worth the fine-tooth-combing!
Jane Hamsher
Wow, my first “0″
congratulations are due, yet it’s so ephemeral.
some folks can’t buy nary a zero.
Subway Serenade: That is fucking hysterical. It’s going up top…
Got a letter from Al Gore today. Nice text — “constitutional crisis”, “George Bush has repeatedly and insistently broken the law” — certainly the stuff that resonates with me. Even better, it came with a neat window sticker saying: “Had Enough? Vote Democrat in ‘06″. Maybe that Had Enough will catch on after all.
Unfortunately, Al was writing on behalf of the DSCC. The letter said the “DSCC is the only Democratic Party organizatoin solely committed to electing a Democratic Senate in November”. However, I think Al means to say “committed to electing a Democratic or Liebermanic Senate”.
TRex will likely regale us with fine snark upon his return.
*ilson46201 (30)
I’ve got a feeling there are people already working on picking through the names. :) I’d be surprised if we can find 17 invalid names, but one never knows…
Dreaming of being on your linked page one day…
Pretend I don’t have the time for blogging and lurking I once had…what’s up with TRex? Hope I didn’t ask something inappropriate.
vacation
Ned mentioned on the Daily Show
I will have the video up ASAP (tonight, hopefully!)
Nah, TRex is just vacationing.
Noonan 36 — TRex is vacationing at the lake with his family. He is having a good time and will be back with us anon.
One last post. For those looking at the really strange race we have for Senate here in WI, this Kos diary is from Kohl’s primary opponent.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..72149/3305
what’s up with TRex?
I was wondering the same thing.
Maura rocks! Thanks for posting about this. Maura was absolutely polite, and Lieberman comes across like a whiny spoiled brat.
Hi, Subway!
Noonan: professional signature folk always gather 50% more signatures than needed to ensure getting enough valid ones — 8% overage is a prescription for failure…
I got to meet Spazeboy tonight. That was awesome.
Stewart – “earlier i called Novak the douche bag of liberty…. I’m thinking about dropping the ‘liberty’ part”
Jane (40)
Good to hear, we all need time with family and away from the keyboard once in a while.
Jane,
any further plans on meeting up with the MA group?
I added Subway Serenade 25 link to the post, but click it, after having had my head pounded with that fucking song for the past five years it felt quite liberating.
anyone willing to sit through a commercial can read the latest from salon.com:
OT, but has everyone seen the “Bush Pilot” video?
The Stevens stuff was hysterical. I think I wet my sofa. The Lieberman bit started well, but what was with the Jonestown reference for Ned’s commercial? I would have thought Stewart would have used the “morph” commercial or “messy desk.” It wasn’t very long, but the impression left was not good. We’re not out here marching like obedient automatons, and no, we don’t drink bleach. If anyone knows Stewart’s writers, maybe they could be slipped a better Lamont clip.
RevDeb — just planning out my schedule tonight. I think we’re going to do the FDL meetup here in CT next week (Thu?) and then I’ll try to schedule in a MA run after that. I’ll know more tomorrow.
Jane
We’re meeting at Kerry’s office on Wed. at 1. if you can join us, it would be great.
*ilson46201 (44)
Well, the total says a lot for his campaign. I’ve had people I don’t even know approach me and thank me for running to they have a ‘real’ choice on the ballot. It’s been that bad around here the past 20 years. 40 years since the last time a Dem was elected to this seat. I’m working to put an end to that streak, it’s going to be a tough fight, but no primary would make things easier.
HopeSAT at 11, lol, sounds like you work at a hospital.
Colbert ragging on the MA gay marriage fight. 3 of us MA Rootz folks were there today outside the state house cheering in the hot/humid/rainy day. The leg. bravely put off the vote until Nov. Probably a good thing as we have to turn a lot of votes yet.
We’ll have a post and pics on the new MA roots web site in the next couple of days.
“Now it would be one thing for a political newcomer to do this, but an 18 year Senator who can’t even pull enough volunteers in his own state to support his campaign? As Digby says, the optics on this one are just awful.”
OK, bad optics. But what are the polls showing? Do we have a chance to pull this off, or is Joe In Like Flymt? Do we need to work our asses off for Ned between now and August 8, or are things looking good? Or looking hopeless, so let’s let our good supporters go off and try to find some race we might actually WIN?
I know Ned is a pet project here. And I fully support him, and I loathe Joe (from afar – NJ) for all the right reasons, and I’ve donated to Ned through FDL’s ActBlue page. But do we have a chance on August 8, or not? Does anybody know?
bobo
So who is Leonard Boswell in IA?
al-scooter at 16
Novacula should burn as the sun begins to rise.
Ok, kids are finally asleep. I’m off to bed too. Whoever just donated to my actblue page, thanks! $2000 by the end of the month and I can keep paying the bills :)
bobo 58 — I have no idea where the polls are on this race and our coverage on it is not dependent on the notion that Ned will win. Up until a few weeks ago that looked downright impossible and we still covered it. This is an important moment in progressive politics in this country, win or lose, and we’re doing what we can to support that effort regardless of the outcome.
bobo,
may i call you bobo?
i think everyone is waiting for some new polling since the debate. That will be something to chew on.
On a sadder note, I just finished watching a short documentary titled “Night and Fog” tonite, directed by Alain Resnais on the Holocaust (Netflix), filmed in 1955.
And in the words of the movie narrator, Jean Cayrol, who himself had been deported “….The crematoria are no longer used. The Nazi’s cunning is but child’s play today. Nine million dead haunt this countryside. Who amongst us keeps watch from this strange watchtower to warn the arrival of our new executioners? Are their faces really different from our own? Somewhere in our midst, lucky kapos still survive, reinstated officers and annonymous informers. There are those who refused to believe or believed for several moments . With our sincere gaze we survey these ruins as if the old monster lay crushed forever beneath the rubble. We pretend to take up hope again as the image recedes into the past, as if we were cured once and for all of the scourge of the camps. We pretend it all happened only once, at a given time and place. We turn a blind’s eye to what surrounds us and a deaf ear to humanity’s never ending cry.
The Hebrew word for accuser is also one of the names for Satan. Considering that fact I’d say that Joe is, at the least, a Son of Satan. In fact all of the members of the current administration are likely offspring of Satan. Who knew.
Faulk – like the Plantagenets. At least a few of those were competent.
Is anyone going to ask Smokin’ Joe what he thinks of the situation in Lebanon? Does he thing Iran and Syria are the perps? Please God, get him on the record on this.
Lieberman sure is sounding more and more like a Republican. “Plants?” “Set-ups?” Anytime an American citizen attends one of these supposedly open forums and calls any of these politicians, whether Republican or Democrat, on their bullshit, they are accused of being a “plant” or are part of a “set-up” to embarass them.
I think it is time for all of these “bullshit artists” to form a new political party in America, to help all of us identify them, beyond just their rank smell. In fact, they can steal part of their new name from a former political party, the Bull Moose Party. But they can call their’s the Bull Shit Party, because that is what they are full of and what they are smearing our Constitution, Bill of Rights and our democracy with…bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
Anyone watching Colbert?
The Daily Show clip is now online!
Where else but Spazeboy.net?
In related news, ’twas nice to see Jane tonight, and I hope everyone tunes in tomorrow morning for the 700 Club on ABC Family at 9am. I shared my parade footage for their broadcast (exactly the same 45 seconds that I uploaded to YouTube, so you’ve all seen it most likely) but you may see the world-famousest poodles.
That’s probably as close as Jane will let her dogs get to Pat Robertson. :)
g’nite everyone
ccmask – i is watching colbert… as i work
He’s on fire tonite. I wish I could be as spunky as him. He is a natural.
yeah, and he be on Conan tonight too
“set-ups”? Isn’t that like when you go to an establishment that does not sell alcoholic beverages, but they sell you a coke into which you can pour your brought-it-here-yourself rum?
off subject….cnn reports Beirut airport just bombed….airstrike on runways. airport closed. this thing’s going hot.
ghostman
I_M_bobo says: July 12th, 2006 at 8:37 p
HoJo went to “Plan B,” he’ll run as an Independent if he loses the primary.
HoJo’s people told him that there are scenarios under which he could lose.
This race pulls all the Vichy Dems away from the Bush orbit. It also is “cleansing” PP and NARAL.
We’re not “counting cou” here. We’re in this to beat Joe in August and then again in November. With that said, it’s probably up to Joe to screw up to lose it. So far he’s done a great job. Ned’s welcome in every neighborhood in CT. HoJo has to worry about “plants” wherever he goes, especially traditional Democratic one’s.
OT,
Jeezus Freaking Christ!
And they JUST NOW put this out?
I would think 34 random shootings in one year might make a fucking headline.
Not to mention ANOTHER 20 plus victim serial rapist. IN THE SAME TOWN!
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/…..index.html
ghostman – http://today.reuters.com/news/…..IDEAST.xml
thanks Ghost
“Hezbollah attack / Gov’t okays massive strikes on Lebanon; Israel readies for rocket attacks in north”
From the NYT times article tonight:
HoJo has to worry about “plants” wherever he goes
He is Nixonian in his persecuted paranoia.
Who created Hamas again?
Jane 62
I’m 100% with you, in $$$ on the table, and in principle.
But I’m also seriously averse to pissing into the wind. I really would like to see indications that Ned isn’t a lost cause before I make another donation. If he has a chane to ake the primary, I’m seriously down. But I really need to know there’s a chance before I piss (fixated much, bobo?) more money away.
Oh for a poll!
bobo
bobo, if you’re asking if he has a chance to win rather than will he definitely win, then I would say absolutely.
The general election is a harder nut to crack, because Joe is more popular outside the CT Democratic party than in it. But at least the Democratic voters of CT would have officially rejected him.
I think the problem the Democrats have right now—you see it in the most important primary this year, the Joe Lieberman election. Al Gore has refused to endorse his vice presidential running mate. A party which is so driven by its left that—I don’t know if you saw the blogger meeting in Las Vegas? From the standpoint of an average American, some of that stuff was weird. Candidates out there run a risk of resembling the people they’re trying to appeal to. Normal people I think become distanced by that stuff. I think the Republican Party has few allies more effective than the Daily Kos.
- Concern troll Newt
My main client is in Jerusalem right now. She worked with many Israelis and Palestinians years ago in the peace process after the first intifada and before the second started. She’s very down right now. I got an email from her earlier today. She wrote that she believes there will be no Israel in another 50 years because the Israelis themselves are blowing it with their arrogance.
Lovely Newt quote, ifthethunderdontgetya.
“Normal people think liberal bloggers are creepy and weird. You’re a normal person, right? So you should think liberal bloggers are creepy and weird. Otherwise, maybe *you’re* creepy and weird too.”
bobo 83 – I understand some people need a clear shot at a win. Try the Tester race, he stands a very good chance. You can donate here through Howie Klein’s Act Blue page. For myself there is much to be gained here in CT even if Ned loses, and I have tried to be very realistic with people about the possibility that it could very well happen.
Isn’t it nice of the Newtster to try and help us out, Eli?
From John Casper’s link: Israel faces the danger of a third front if Syria steps in to assist Hezbollah. Strategically, Israel faces an extreme foursome: Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria and Iran. Two extremist Islamic organizations considered terror organizations, and two states Washington names in the Axis of Evil.
Isn’t it nice of the Newtster to try and help us out, Eli?
As a normal person, I really appreciate being told what I think. Otherwise I might get confused and think something bad.
ifthethunderdontgetya 85 — what did we do before we had the term “concern troll?” It describes so much, so succinctly.
Haaretz’s take (truth probably lies in the middle) -
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/737817.html
1. ccmask: hamas links with the palestinians/plo. Hezbollah is sponsored/funded by Iran. There’s now TWO flare-ups over there, a) gaza, pitting israel against hamas militant wing (they’re the ones who did the original kidnapping which set all this off) and b)hezbollah, which occupies southern lebanon.
2. On Mr. Lamont: I continue to encourage him to get on down to the freight docks, factory gates, etc. I know that afl-cio endorsed lieberman…but I still think Lamont can pick up votes from the rank and file. But he really needs to go shake their hands. Talk to them. Tell them he’s a friend of labor.
Ghostman
IM bobo,
Lieberman wants all CT Democrats to PAY for a primary that he said was worthless. HoJo broke the connection between registered Democrats and his candidacy for the U.S. Senate. He is already defacto running as an independent and will be until he changes his position and commits to supporting the winner of the primary.
If you want to continue to spend $250,000,000/day of taxpayer dollars on the Iraq Occupation and believe in rapists rights, please by all means give money to HoJo.
ifthethunderdontgetya 85 — what did we do before we had the term “concern troll?” It describes so much, so succinctly.
“Grima Wormtongue” is not very catchy, unfortunately. Plus it kinda makes one sound like a geek, which I’m *totally* not.
Newt is creepy and weird? sounds about right.
Ghostman: I don’t know why I thought that originally Israel created Hamas to fight the Palestinians and it backfired, sorta like alQuida.
Nothing wrong with being a Plant.
OT: Zidane interview, in French.
Ina nutshell: he apologizes to the children but does not regret his actions. Whatever. I’m ready to move on.
Zidane headbutted children?
Z linky ne marche pas. try this.
I M Bobo — I agree, we want to win for a change. I’m rah-rahing for Charlie Brown against John Doolittle, and when you really think about it, that seems like a fool’s errand.
But something snapped with me this political season. I’ve donated to Brown, Lamont, Tester, even Webb in a strange moment (meaning I’m not really attached to that race in any way). And I popped a little bit over to Noonan a few minutes ago.
I don’t know if any of my candidates are going to win. I’m not doing this for them. I’m doing it for me. I want them to win. I’m tired of wimpy characterizations of “coming close” being “a victory in itself.” Fuck that.
And yet the paradox is: It is a victory in itself because it’s the beginning of a new organism. We are the netroots. We are not seedlings. We are roots now, branching out, claiming territory, infiltrating everything like kudzu. We may not strangle and take over this time, but we will sometime. I’m involved, and every little donation I make adds to the flow and might help another “just a citizen” get excited about giving 10 bucks here, 25 there, and maybe yikes 500 there. It all adds up, little feeder branches.
People like Joe Lieberman can either pay some respect or get the hell out of the way. I want these candidates to win. But more than that, I want the netroots to keep growing until progressive, liberal America regenerates and takes back control of this country.
Nothing wrong with being a Plant.
I’m in the mood for a melNedy, I’m in the moo-ood…
Just got back from doing a caregiver thing. Hi Renee in Ohio, I love being on the same page with such a long time Deaniac.
Jane,
Being “Up top” would be greatly appreciated. I’m looking for 100,000 downloads of Goper’s Lament by Sept 11. I think it could have an effect on November.
Zidane headbutted children?
no, but he acted like a butthead in front of the children
JH, there’s a lot we have to thank the internets for. Blogtopia, for instance!
As for Newt, here’s yet another Republican
pining for the fjords, I mean the Joe-sen one.
Eli
“Zidane headbutted children?”
No, but Putin kissed one on the stomach…does that count?
Jane 88,
I want Ned to WIN the primary. Is this a possibility, does anyone know?
bobo
infiltrating everything like kudzu
The Who: “the kudzu allright”
No, but Putin kissed one on the stomach…does that count?
At least he didn’t kiss him on the butt…
I’m kind of hoping that wanting to stroke someone like a kitten will jump into the popular vernacular for slightly-creepy infatuation, but I don’t think the prospects are very good.
Mr. Bobo: I’ve read that Lamont was about 6% behind mid-late June. That was a poll that rwcole reported. Before that, Lamont was about 15% behind. An up trend, but I think still uphill. That’s my honest assessment.
Ghostman
In the whole scheme of headbutting opponents and kissing bellies, I think the kiss between w and hojo the worst, for they are “ours” and they love and make war.
argh.
I want Ned to WIN the primary. Is this a possibility, does anyone know?
We’ve been saying yes over and over again.
Is there some kind of confidence threshold percentage you want to throw out there? Me, I peg it at around a 60% chance, but I’m going by what I hear here, plus a month-old Quinnipiac poll that suggests pretty strongly that Joe is not real popular with CT Dems.
punaise, you crack me up every day.
Hey folks,
If you use FIrefox, you have to download the song before playing it.
LindaR 103,
If you lose, you gain nothing in the short term. If you think your efforts will amount to anything in the long term, despite the short-term loss, keep at them.
If you don’t, consider alternative actions.
Me, I don’t hsave a clue what works and what doesn’t. But I do know that futility is not a good outlet for our energies.
bobo
I guess bobo is not down with the 50-State Strategy.
Eli, not to mention who’s going to show up for the primary? Really motivated voters, that’s who. And here we have HolyJoe, searching for crash space for his outer-staters.
Advantage Ned!
LindaR @ 9:27—after two days of feeling like I’ve been kicked to the curb, I really needed your words. Thank you.
And of course the truly side-splittingly funny thing is (funny like in the Rodney Dangerfield scene of NBK) is that Bush could tell the Israeli’s “stop that shit” and Hamas to find and get those soldiers back.
But he doesn’t.
Ghostman 112 & Eli 114,
The numbers you proffer are encouraging. I just want to know that there’s a chance!
bobo
imbobo @ 117
As I commented, I don’t lose, even if my current candidates do. You’ve got to lay the foundation before you put on the roof.
The need for instant gratification is what got the Democratic Party into the mess it’s in right now. It’s what the DLC eats for breakfast, I think.
punaise
Eh? Kudzu please repeat that?
Eli, not to mention who’s going to show up for the primary? Really motivated voters, that’s who.
Yep. I had said something similar elsewhere – who’s going to be *excited* to vote for Lieberman?
(And then I got an e-mail from Ned’s internet guy a few hours later, responding affirmatively to my blog comment)
“Eli, not to mention who’s going to show up for the primary? Really motivated voters, that’s who.”
Yeah, I heard Loserman say it’s going to be a “hot day in August.”
Why does that remind me of, “Being president is HARD WORK?
Eli 118,
Totally down with the 50-state strategy. Sorry for my limited $$$ and time and purity.
bobo
The whine. It must be the whine.
rbg @ 120 — cool.
oh and our vp shot a man in the face and cursed at a Senator on the Senate floor, our sec state went shoe shopping during katrina, our preznit read a book about rabid goats while our nation was attacked, our sec def said you go to war with the army you have and not the one you wish you had, everybody lied to take us to a ruinous war, they conveniently forgot about poor Afghanistan, they outed a NOC, they spy on us, shredded our Constitution, ruined our foreign policy, robbed our treasury, hurt our elderly with a phony drug bill, broke our laws and treaties, torture, and for the crowning touch…… they have done nothing to stop the crisis in the ME!!!!!!!!!!!
etc.
ad nauseum.
Yeah, I heard Loserman say it’s going to be a “hot day in August.”
Oh yeah, I’m sure lots of people will want to turn out in 90-degree heat to wait in line to vote for Joe.
Hopefully Nov. 7 is really cold and rainy in CT.
IM Bobo
Rasmussen on June 16 has Lieberman leading Lamont 46%-40%
That page was updated on July 11th with the news of Lieberman beginning his petition drive which Rasmussen felt was significant enough to report. My guess is there will be a new Rasmussen poll any day now that will probably show Lamont statistically in a dead heat or close to it. If there is a surprise it will be Lamont leading the polling, which very well could happen.
Consider your support for Ned and these other progressive candidates as an angel investment for the future of progressive politics. These guys are doing so well and shocking so many people within the Democratic party that all this talk of fighting for the soul of the party is coming true.
What Ned has already accomplished is significant enough to have shaken up an 18 yr old incumbent who looks like an idiot to his friends in the national party which has shown that class the netroots must be dealt with. ROOTZ are rising up in the TOOBZ!
And, since I know that the Lamont campaign scours fdl looking for Ghostman advice (as I roll my eyes), I’ll also offer this:
1. debate: I felt that Lieberman made a BIG DEAL out of “saving” Electric Boat and the sub base. This is something that can ring loudly with voters. Well…not so fast, JoJo.
EB is one of only about 2 sub construction companies in the entire COUNTRY. EB may go thru periodic partial work reductions (ALL defense contractors do this)…but as long as the US Navy fields a sub force (which will be “FF”…fucking forever…)….EB will always be in business.
The sub base? Well…maybe JoJo had a hand in keeping the Groton base. (a big sub base)…but as long as EB is in business, it makes infinite sense to keep Groton at it’s side. And EB will be around a long, long time. (see above)
So….how to put all that into tight messages for the voters….up to ya’ll, Lamonters! All I can do is chip in wisdom from down here in The Great State. Chuckle.
Ghostman
Well, Lieberman can go visit his buddy w down in Crawford for a real hot time in August after he loses so he can get a sympathetic ear to nibble on… maybe they can hold hands and kiss again.
BTW, I wanted to comment earlier: I love Spazeboy!!!
Totally down with the 50-state strategy. Sorry for my limited $$$ and time and purity.
Glad to hear it. I was starting to get uneasy that you kept repeating the same question over and over again, despite our answers, and saying that it was a waste of time and money to support someone who can’t win. But if that’s a matter of personal strategy and not what the national party should be doing, it’s your money and I can understand wanting to get the most bang for your buck.
For me, it’s not just the possibility that Ned can win, but the *importance* of Ned winning, as an object lesson of the power of the netroots and the perils of ignoring your constituents (if only NARAL and PP leadership were subject to popular vote by their members…).
On the previous thread, Dover Bitch reported that Sen. Dodd said Connecticut would be dealt a “huge blow” if it lost Leaverman’s seniority.
My reply got EPU’d:
Seniority is this racket where as a senator or representative accumulates more and more years in office, and drifts further and further from the reasons they got elected in the first place, you are supposed to keep re-electing them because, even if they have by now become virtual Republicans, they DO have seniority…[and will use it to promote their Republican agenda]. Did I get that about right, Joe?
Angie, I certainly hope so. Then Mrs. Laura and Dr. Condi can take turns slapping ‘em silly. Quite the tag team, no? Not as bad as having Jane and Christy on one’s case, but bad enough for some “brush clearing” abrasions and contusions to show up on TV. Joey better stick with Hadassah.
Totally down with the 50-state strategy. Sorry for my limited $$$ and time and purity.
I saw that and I swear I thought it said purty. As in “boy you sure are purty”
Eli #136,
Thanks. I just deleted a very long and heated rant. You saved me the trouble.
LOL, al- scooter!
“As in “boy you sure are purty”
Isn’t that what Bush whispered to Lieberman after the State of the Union address?
Or was it the other way around?
It has a sort of “fake Texan” sound to it.
Since I learned about seniority in my 8th grade constitution class, I have thought it was a bad thing and might even be unconstitutional. There is no senority. Every congress is a new congress. You might make the case in the Senate where the races are rotated. But the most “senority” a senator could have would be four years. Get my math?
for anyone who is questioning donating money to a true progressive candidate, look at it this way. the more money progressives can raise, the more candidates are going to want to get themselves a piece of that fundraising pie. and if that means they are going to have to adopt more progressive positions to get it, well, then everyone wins.
in the end, win or lose money talks.
“As in “boy you sure are purty”
Isn’t that what Bush whispered to Lieberman after the State of the Union address?
I think we’re getting into DeLiebermance territory here.
Eli 51
OT, but has everyone seen the “Bush Pilot” video?
purdy funny
Thats what Bush was saying just before The Kiss. And yes, I do believe a Texas twang is required by law while saying “you sure do look purty BOY”
purdy funny
I was beginning to wonder if anyone watched it. I think I pimped it too vaguely. I think it really does propose a very plausible explanation for much of Bush’s behavior.
“I think we’re getting into DeLiebermance territory here.”
Is it time for Georgie and Joey, down on the pig farm, to play “Dueling Chainsaws” together?
the return of l’Internetiste!
St. Joe’s been Gannonized?
warble to me, purty boy, reel quiet-like, so’s nobuddy kin hear.
Good one, Neuro and Eli!
Echoes of Blogwhoring…
bobo –
I think Ned is the odds on favorite to win the primary. I personally believe Ned will win the general, with or without HoJo in the race.
Ten days ago, Ned was a longshot to win the primary. Inexplicably, HoJo chose to implode his campaign, and lash out at all those who dared question his god given right to be a Senator.
HoJo steered his campaign into an iceberg, and I expect he will become a pathetic joke by October.
He’s pathetic now, but in a slightly tragic way. By the fall, he will be despised.
e.c. @144:
The other interesting dynamic is that if people are donating more $$$ directly to progressive candidates, they’re probably donating *less* money to the DNC/DSCC/DCCC to spread around, which reduces their clout and gives them an incentive to try to win us back.
Assuming they realize what’s going, of course. They might just assume that the crazy lefties have scared away their moderate donors.
OT – There was another hearing today on tribunal policy that should make clear to any sentient GOP Congressperson, if are there any, that the administration has no intention of “reversing course” in the wake of the Hamdan decision.
“Bush administration insists Congress ratify military tribunals” Knight-Ridder.
On topic – Methinks bobo’s fishing for some sort of tacit admission that Lamont hasn’t got a chance. And bobo, my apologies in advance if your’s is not simply the latest variation of “concern.”
I see someone has first hand experience with Texanese.
Regarding the seniority thing, the fact is Connecticut is 49 out of 50 in the pork line.
It can’t get much worse!
http://www.taxfoundation.org/r…..w/266.html
HoJo steered his campaign into an iceberg, and I expect he will become a pathetic joke by October.
He’s pathetic now, but in a slightly tragic way. By the fall, he will be despised.
I can’t wait to see what Joe does as an “official” underdog.
Eli
“they’re probably donating *less* money to the DNC/DSCC/DCCC”
That is certainly true in my case. I will give money to Howard Dean to support the 50 state strategy, but not to the Beltway Incumbency Consultants Clubs.
Katie has turned into Concern Poodle. She thinks it would be better for me on the whole to get rid of some of those excess treats in the kitchen cabinet, they’ll only hurt me in the long run.
I’ll be back…
That is certainly true in my case. I will give money to Howard Dean to support the 50 state strategy, but not to the Beltway Incumbency Consultants Clubs.
I think the DNC is actually pretty worthy, at least while Dean is running it, but I think they’re going to take some collateral damage.
speaking of important races:
Kos
both events are in SF, which barring a huge earthquake, is actually north of Silicon Valley…but let’s not quibble
I can’t wait to see what Joe does as an “official” underdog.
I’m waiting for the desperation to set in.
The closer it gets, the worse it will get.
There hasn’t been a political race in recent memory, anywhere, that hasn’t gone into the sewers.
Katie the Koncern Kanine.
Regarding the seniority thing, the fact is Connecticut is 49 out of 50 in the pork line.
It can’t get much worse!
Joe is the only thing standing between CT and last place.
Seriously, though, you would think that Joe would be able to cash in a whole lot of markers with the Republican majority for all the times that he’s helped them out. Seems to me like he hasn’t even made the attempt, or he’s been saving them all for election season, to serve his true constituency.
I’ve always heard a cornered rat can be pretty vicious. I guess we’re going to find out.
re: my last comment
Full disclosure: I am a plant.
An eggplant, last time I checked.
punaise #164:
Just my luck. Weekending up your way, but Monday’s drive home day. Sounds like a great opportunity to have the next governor of Montana pour you a cold one. Great story for the grandkids, etc.
eli, i agree, it helps to make sure that the national party organizations are made aware of the reasons they aren’t getting an individuals contributions, in the same way that everyone in the last few threads that have been pissed off and naral and pp have let them know why they are no longer going to support them. our ability to directly support individual candidates is the national parties greatest nightmare. so i say start making them work for our support, and not just take it for granted.
RE — campaign donations.
Personally, I think Ned is in good shape, moneywise. He can self fund his campaign, which is a luxury few Democrats have.
I recommend giving money to longshot Democrats, who can run creative insurgent campaigns against vulnerable Republicans. Most will lose, but every district that changes from Red to Purple is a step in the right direction. And who knows? We’ve had enough, and if the message gets through to the Independents and Republicans who have had it with Bush GOP corruption, lightning could strike all over the country.
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Had Enough? Vote Democratic!!!
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G’night folks, work is creeping in on little cat paws. Or will be in a few hours.
I recommend giving money to longshot Democrats, who can run creative insurgent campaigns against vulnerable Republicans. Most will lose, but every district that changes from Red to Purple is a step in the right direction.
I think it also encourages more progressive candidates to run, knowing that they don’t have to rely on the centrist national party for help.
Lights out for The Ghost. On a somber note, earlier I commented on breaking news on Beirut airport airstrike. Hezbollah has already responded with rocket salvo into N. Israel. One Israeli citizen dead, others wounded. Here we go. Nite.
Ghostman
ummm, now that I look at my tribute to Katie post, I’m kinda sorry I did that, the initials don’t sit well with me, sorry Jane– concern poodle is perfect. Too late and not enough brain left ;)
I think Ned is the odds on favorite to win the primary. I personally believe Ned will win the general, with or without HoJo in the race.
I love your optimism and I hope you’re right, but if that’s the case, both NARAL and PP completely missed it.
both NARAL and PP completely missed it.
That’s because their fingers are in the cocktail weenie sauce, instead of the wind . . .
Has anyone read this yet:
http://www.politics1.com/blog-0706.htm#0713/
I’m sure you guys are already talking about it but I didn’t see any links to it. Looks like the Republicans are trying to push out their current candidate in place of one who’s to the left of Joe. This could get interesting.
both NARAL and PP completely pissed on it.
(like Zidane, I apologize to the chillun)
Bustednuckles 165
I can’t wait to see what Joe does as an “official” Underdog.
try Mighty Mouse
CT primary will be Joe’s LapDogDay Afternoon.
CT primary will be Joe’s LapDogDay Afternoon.
Neddica! Neddica!
SAL! I’m diiiiieng over here!
I used to love Al Pacino. So. Much.
I used to love Al Pacino. So. Much.
Ever since Dick Tracy, it’s seemed to me that virtually every character he’s played is some kind of variation of Big Boy Caprice.
This is not, IMO, a good thing.
Whats wrong with Al Pacino now? I still dig him.
Whats wrong with Al Pacino now?
taking his cue from Bill Murray’s “Lost in Translation” character, he’s been shilling for a pet food product in a different Asian country:
Alpo China
OK, first of all, Dick Tracy was unfortunate for everyone involved and came at a point in Pacino’s career where he probably owed a studio exec a favor and couldn’t get out of it. That or he lost a huge bet in Vegas to Warren Beatty. I don’t count that role for him since it was obviously a money gig he was well paid for.
If dealing with the occasional Dick Tracy gives me a Heat or Godfather I say so be it.
Nate — there was some discussion of it in a previous thread. Read carefully — the GOP isn’t talking about pushing out their candidate and backing Urban. Urban, the left-of-Lieberman one, is a signature-gathering independent, and the leadership doesn’t think much of her. They’re talking about pushing out their candidate with a trumped-up scandal (IMO) and replacing him with a more viable one, if Lieberman is running independent and splitting the Democratic vote. Politics1 doesn’t a part of the column that appeared in Hotline:
Fini, I actually *liked* Pacino in Dick Tracy. But it seemed to me that the cartoonishness which was fine for that movie carried over into most of what he did after. Maybe it was just a coincidence, or maybe he was always like that and I just never noticed.
Scent Of A Woman was kind of the embodiment of it for me. Bleh.
He was the only good thing in Dick Tracy! It was terrible, but Pacino was hilarious!
Urban, the left-of-Lieberman one, is a signature-gathering independent, and the leadership doesn’t think much of her.
Heh. Indeed.
He was the only good thing in Dick Tracy! It was terrible, but Pacino was hilarious!
Agreed, except I also thought Dustin Hoffman was pretty funny as Mumbles.
And now, having thrown several bombs at Al Pacino, I must furtively scuttle off to bed…
Pacino has this thing that started (now I think about, you’re right it was Dick tracy!) back then that I know what you’re referring to. He has this mode he goes into at times during certain movies (Heat included) where Pacino does a Pacino impression.
Think of the scene when he goes to Las Vegas to enlist the help of Ashley Judd’s boyfriend character played by Hank Azaria and he gives his whole “Great Ass” speech. Is that what you mean?
plants have rootz. potatoes are tooberz.
ccmask – I saw Night and Fog in a college class and it was very, very disturbing. When it was over and the lights came up, the professor asked that no one leave until we all had time to sit still for a few minutes. Some people were really freaked out.
I’m a plant.
Or is that a vegetable?
After a week on the beach, it’s hard to tell.
punaise @ 197
I guess Ted Stevens is Mr. Potato head then?
TRex is back!
You were missed earlier. If you’re at the beach doesn’t that make you seaweed? Definitely veggie.
Why does Condasleazy feel compelled to release non-statement “statements” about everything? Talk about a plant.
L’Internetiste f/k/a Fini etc. : that was a softball for ya – right over the plate. I think Stevens went through the crinkle-cut machine.
such hospudality!
I smoked a little plant tonight. No thanks to Joe though.
-GSD
TRex! – cookin’ up some good stuff for us while on hiatus at Cape Hatteras?
GSD – IOKALAIWATG
it’s OK as long as it was a token gesture
As if we need another one of these twits, from Raw Story on Hillary’s bid for the presidency:
“She will define herself, and we will have the money to do it,” said one close adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because Clinton has forbidden those close to her to speculate publicly about 2008. “People have to get to know her, know that she was once a Republican, that she’s a big Methodist. . . . That will happen.”
Token Joe, get away from me. Token Joe, come and set me free.
Don’t come a hanging around my door, don’t wanna see your saggy face no more.
I don’t want your war machines, can’t dig your ghetto scenes.
Gotta get away, now go, go, Joe.
-GSD
Sorry, I left for a few minutes to go and… oh never mind. Pacino lost me with Scent of a Woman. He’s become a caricature of himself. Takes too much energy to watch and listen to him anymore.
Trex, please get a tan for me, okay?
GSD just brought me back to 6th grade. Loved that album. Without the Joe part, I mean.
The snake is beginning to eat its own tail.
FCC sets to crackdown on sports profanity.
http://today.reuters.com/news/…..NCY-DC.XML
-GSD
Shoephone.
The Guess Who song that really sticks in my head is These Eyes for some reason.
I think it’s the cheesy keyboard intro that haunts me.
-GSD
I love that song GSD, mainly because I am a cheesy keyboard player myself. The Guess Who have stood up to the elements of time really well. My nephew who is 14 was listening to his dad’s albums last time I was over and played that song.
I had both those Guess Who albums. Can’t think of the name of the one with These Eyes. I remember the cover with their faces on soup cans though. Amercian Woman had No Time and She’s Come Undone and New Mother Nature, which I thought was the coolest.
New Mother Nature has one of the great rock intros.
She’s gettin’ us all.
-GSD
coulda sworn Green Eyed Lady was by the Guess Who, but no: it was Sugarloaf
pumpkin time
*plouf*
Wheatfield Soul was the album These Eyes appeared on. There is some more interesting info on the band at AllMusic.com. Far more prolific than even I realized according to that site I linked.
punaise – did you name your kitten yet??
Tat’s right – Wheatfield Soul! Thanks, Fini. When I try to caome up with things like that, the “senior moments” start to kick in.
uh-oh. Spelling starting to go…maybe time for beddie-bye.
Now I’ll never find out about punaise’s kitty.
I’m a huge music nerd and my Google-fu for finding musical facts is pretty good. Plus I love answering trivia like that…if you ever need music info let me know.
OKay, Fini, now I’m going to test you. This is WAY out of left field. I’m showing my age here, but Paul Peterson, who played Moondoggie in the TV show Gidget and the son on the Donna Reed Show had a band. I know it was a novelty act, but I can’t come up with the name of the band. A trivia question that my sister and I have batted around for years.
That should keep you busy!
Speaking of important races:
ALL OF THEM.
Here’s a link to why you should care:
http://bradblog.com/video/flvp…..Height=240
Please watch this excellent video report by Cathrine Crier.
Had stepped away for a few, just saw this now. Ghead and time me on this one.
…does this mean what I think it means:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/06…..html?.v=33
…also, Kudzu is excellant for reducing alcohol craving…
Hope and Spider: Looks like more and more info is finally getting out about the pitfalls of electronic voting machines. I remember reading Skippy perhaps?) that Crier was possibly going to get Brad of The Brad Blog on her report next week. Skippy’s been posting a lot about these issues.
About Newt Gingrich ???
some witch turned him into a newt, and he never got better
All you need to know
Ok here is the scoop. BTW Moon doggie was played by Steven Miles on Gidget, not Paul Petersen.
Courtesy of AllMovie.com
Fini – 7 minutes flat. You too much.
Oops I forgot this about Paul Petersen. You can view his musical file here, with audio clips on the page even and links to buy the CDs.
I know I’m probably in the minority here, but to me, the minimum wage debate is a second-fiddle issue in this year’s elections. Yeah, it matters, but the Democrats are apparently pinning their November hopes on this issue? Idiotic.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07…..3wage.html
The minimum wage debate is only one of a hundred priorities behind the issues that are the GOP elephants in the living room: Iraq, terrorism, the economy, and energy independence.
We have got to get the Israelis and Palestinians together and that isn’t going to happen with Cheney in charge. This whole region could conflagrate in no fucking time and we may be seeing the beginning of that tonight/this morning.
I accidently deleted the fourth point before energy independence which mentioned the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and made the rest of that comment look incoherent. That’s a sign to say goodnight if I ever saw one.
I will be on late night tomorrow night, I am calling bingo at my church’s parish festival the next 3 nights. Should be a hoot. If anyone is in Indianapolis this weekend come on by the Holy Spirit Festival on the east side and say hi to the big guy in the bingo tent.
Nuts. Can’t get back to sleep. But there’s always FireDogs to play with!
Lots of stories at this hour on news.google.com covering Novak’s non-news — 525, to be exact.
Cliff May at NRO whines that certain folks who should apologize about Joe Wilson’s conspiracy to bring down Rove. (HAH!! Gonna’ wake up the family laughing about that crock of shite!!)
AP’s Yost looks at the parsing/re-parsing of Novakula’s exchange with Rove in what Novak said was 20-seconds long (heard that or know that?); you can see just how much damage AP can potentially inflict on public perception by noting how widely this particular story is picked up.
But Pennsylvania’s Centre Daily Times has a fun op-ed on the Novak-Rove story. Worth the read; sure looks like the heartland sees through all the parsing anyhow. Falls Church News-Press (northern VA) op-ed titled “Novak-Rove: Have You No Decency?” adds some weight to this notion.
Kudos to Newshounds.com, who cover the EXCLUSIVE! Novak interview with Brit Hume and observe: “Comment: Bob Novack’s #1 Rule of Journalism: Never lead with treason. Rule #2: Refer to outing a CIA agent working in a critical department as a “nice nugget”.”
Scanning through this entire mess, I’d say this was Novak’s attempt at laying cover, ground work for Rove for something…is Rove going to make the ultimate sacrifice and exit the White House in an effort to save the 2006 elections?
Or is there a much larger story coming on Friday the White House wishes to bury this Friday?
ot as usual but i want this introduced into the public record in case others missed it:
Washington Times blogger: are newspapers too snoopy? commenters: yes, totally
I see the thread moved abit whilst I napped. Was gonna put this up around comment 50 or so when the eyelids closed:
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Just outta curiousity, has Joe and/or the alleged campaign that supports his election been confronted witha question (especially from like maybe the Courant) about the fake bumper sticker/website? And what response to that question? They should be put on the spot for that kind of sleezy work.
Just sayin’…
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Now gonna scan H. Courant and p’raps the Globe.
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About ME…the comment about Israel creating their own demise over the next 50 years: sadly, I concur.
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Minimum wage IS an IMPORTANT issue EVERY election cycle. Sadly, might not be a WINNING issue.
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Wondering about Ned’s chances? What were ANYONE’s chances v HoJo just last Nov.
I keep saying the curve shows a steady erosion. I’m confident that will continue (although, like Jane “There ain’t no such thing as a SURE thing.” As a sports metaphor, I watched the ball go thru Buckner’s legs Game 6, 1986 World Series. (But I don’t ‘blame’ Buckner…I blame the manager. Long story)
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Music trivia: my first concert evah…Threee Dog Night headlining, along w/ Guess Who. But the opening act ’stole the show’…Dr. John.
John Yoo interview on NPR this morning. Let’s see, Common Article 3 is “vague”, and Congress could clear this all up with a short, one sentence law overturning the Hamdan decision. To quickly transcribe Yoo:
NPR guy says that’s not likely to happen. Yoo, not surprisingly, is hopeful that it will.
Good morning, pups (FDL’s and lhp’s kinds both)!
Now as to plants, can there be any doubt that I are 100%?
No doubt there, surely, but I do have a big one about how I’m gonna see the “Salon’s great races of 2006″ piece that punaise recommended last night. When I go to that page, I find no sponsor’s logo to unleash the ad that’s to unleash the article. Salon’s own logo is the only one visible, and it goes nowhere.
That’s a bummer, but of course not nearly as bummer as the ME this dawn. Before conking out last night, I left a link to NYT (Steven Erlanger)’s “News Analysis: Sign That Crisis Is Regional, Not Just Israel vs. Palestinians” at 158 of “NARAL Responds” (won’t repeat it here to avoid mods).
Anyhow, now that WaPo (Robin Wright) and LAT (Megan Stack/Rania Abouzeid) have also weighed in with their “analyses,” an interesting phenomenon appears.
Whaddya know: the less handy to the White House the piece’s dateline, the less it has to say about Iran. Now, it may well be true that Tehran is calling the tune of Hamas-Israel-Hezbollah’s death-dance, but I find this particular artifact of the U.S. reportage fascinating.
Okay, the views from London and Amman that I also want to share require a new comment lest I maroon ‘em in sleeping-mods limbo (and the cats require breakfast before ALL), so back in a few . . .
Gah — got one too many links into my “Good Morning” after all, so now I gotta redo. AFTER I feed these clawfully-insisting cats . . .
Thanks Rayne,
One way or the other we will bring those crooks to justice.
Did you listen to that Republican idiot on
Hardball…
We should apologize to Rove?
That strategist fits the mold of a Dean “Conservative without Conscience”, a yummy book I picked up yesterday.
Bay State Librul
I am on the sun up side of a new day –Good morning all! (Anyone?, Buehler?) And having just read the thread and the handwringing about whether Lamont can win the primary,
no one pointd out that giving Lamont money NOW — early in the game — is the best way to insure his victory. If he wins the primary, sure he will need $$$, but he will start getting it from all sorts of very big donor places, including in-kind from Labor.
So my advice to IMBobo? More cowbell!
[Well, this is eventually gonna be a double-post, but who knows when, so here goes … ]
Good morning, pups (FDL’s and lhp’s kinds both)!
Now as to plants, can there be any doubt that I are 100%?
No doubt there, surely, but I do have a big one about how I’m gonna see the “Salon’s great races of 2006″ piece that punaise recommended last night. When I go to that page, I find no sponsor’s logo to unleash the ad that’s to unleash the article. Salon’s own logo is the only one visible, and it goes nowhere.
That’s a bummer, but of course not nearly as bummer as the ME this dawn. Before conking out last night, I left a link to NYT (Steven Erlanger)’s “News Analysis: Sign That Crisis Is Regional, Not Just Israel vs. Palestinians” at 158 of “NARAL Responds” (won’t repeat it here to avoid mods).
Anyhow, now that WaPo (Robin Wright) and LAT (Megan Stack/Rania Abouzeid) have also weighed in with their “analyses,” an interesting phenomenon appears.
Whaddya know: the less handy to the White House the piece’s dateline, the less it has to say about Iran. Now, it may well be true that Tehran is calling the tune of Hamas-Israel-Hezbollah’s death-dance, but I find this particular artifact of the U.S. reportage fascinating.
Okay, the views from London and Amman that I also want to share require a new comment lest I maroon ‘em in sleeping-mods limbo (and the cats require breakfast before ALL), so back in a few . . .
Blank Kludge !!
My first concert was also Three Dog Night (I wonder if it was the same tour? 1973) and again, the opening act stole the show and changed my life — T Rex!
mornin’ Lotus – did u hear if lhp puppies popped out?
Morning all. Okay, OT, but I’m seriously spooked. I tune in first to antiwar dot com in the morning for a view of the past day or night’s events. After reading an article about Israel bombing the Beirut International Airport, I turned to reading an article at rocky mountain news about what I thought was going to be Lieberman, link below. I had just started reading the article when a voice came on (usually I keep the sound mute) and said “You are now free to move to another country.”
Whazzup with this? Anyone else ever have this experience?
http://www.rockymountainnews.c…..69,00.html
Morning, twolf! LHP wasn’t around here last night that I’ve spotted, so maybe that means . . .
Chrissie – it says “u r now free to move about the country”, i think it’s a Southwest Air ad. Don’t worry, the NSA doesn’t want you gone.
JWR at 238 — I have long said that Yoo is famous becaue he was a useful tool to powerful people, not because he is smart.
The Congress cannot overturn the Supreme Court that way. They just cannot, period. It is stupid for a guy who teaches con law at a great school like Berkley to suggest it. Dumb, ignorant, weird.
The Supremecy clause of the constitution makes treaties equal to constitutional law. The Supreme Court has said that they will treat treaty construction like the construction of duly enacted Congressional statutes. What today’s Congress thinks a statute means — especially one as world-wide critical at the Geneva convention, is MEANINGLESS to its actual meaning and to the Supreme Court.
That sounds like an airline ad I’ve heard, Chrissie, but I do share your freak-out re the ME. Israel now says it has Lebanon blockaded by sea and air.
oh god, it’s too early. i just turned on CNN and chimpy is flappin’ his gums live with german chancellor merkel
Chrissie says: July 13th, 2006 at 3:45 am
No need to fear — the “move about the country” is standard Southwest Airlines slogan and is related to the DING advertisement.
immanentize
As I clear the fog off my personal memory chip, I have to think this would be prior to ‘73…I’m a ‘74 grad, and I distinctly remember being in Jr.High at the time. It was funny in a way; I had some weed in hand, but had never rolled one up…sitting there, and being the ‘expert’ head…having no clue you had to break the buds up…(had no pipe; hadn’t considered that possibility…heeheehee).
I envy the T.Rex on your side. Never caught them. But, I’m sure they woulda banged MY gong as well.
fyi – bush is concerned about the fragile democracy in lebanon.
BK, It wasn’t just the music — Marc Bolan during one song (Jeepster?) turned up the fog machine and whipped his guitar on stage for five or so minutes. Like I said, I was 14 — all my little synapses burst.
As for Guess Who, I think American Woman was the first song in which I ever heard the word, “bitch.” My father, a very creative swearer, rarely trotted that one out, so it was novel and harsh. I still have my Canned Wheat album.
twolf1, I thought *ilson told us that Lebanon would use their DEMOCRACY shield.
(Sorry, I can’t make mine blink)
Before London, I checked in farther east . . .
Juan Cole reports on both Iraq and H/I/H, concluding,
“I continue to worry that this outbreak of war in the Levant will exacerbate tensions in Iraq and get more US troops killed. Iraqi Sunnis generally sympathize with the Palestinians. And hard line Shiites like the Sadr Movement and the Mahdi Army are close to Hizbullah. Israel’s wars could tip Iraq over into an unstoppable downward spiral.”
Meanwhile, Zeyad, still in Amman on his way to NY and now joined by his family (on their way to Syria), reports “The Iraqi Invasion” — of Jordan by Iraqi refugees. I’m glad to know his family is out of Baghdad (though who knows where they’ll be safe for long?), but still fret about Salam Pax, Riverbend, and a few million others similarly-situated.
imm – I think if they just spread BushCo’s patented Freedom Butter all over themselves, they will be OK.
JWR at 238 — I have long said that Yoo is famous becaue he was a useful tool to powerful people, not because he is smart.
If you can legitimize and defend the indefensible, the Republicans will find a place for you.
immanentize
That’s crazy…
coincidentally…
The Dr.John guitarist musta been a Hendrix fan…took guitar up to the amp and got WICKED weird feedback…which woulda been amped even more for me if I had a clue how get the weed ingested properly. But that was striking even non-stoned.
The wiki entry for Dr. John says, “He gained fame beginning in the late 1960s and early 1970s, with music that combined New Orleans-style rhythm and blues with psychedelic rock and stage shows that bordered on voodoo religious ceremonies, including elaborate costumes and headdress.”
It WAS like voodoo.
OT, but the story about Katherine Harris’s campaign staff resigning immediately reminded me of this rejected Katherine Harris campaign video – sheer genius.
Well. There’s so much going on in Blighty’s press that I’ll just do links to a handful of homepages and recommend that you browse for yourself:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/global (note that this is the “global” homepage; “UK homepage” link on the left)
http://www.guardian.co.uk
http://www.independent.co.uk
http://www.telegraph.co.uk
Dr. John — now that was a great show. Yes and a bit spooky/noisy/dance filled fun. But I saw him in the ’80’s, well, past his prime — in Miami at Tobacco Road.
imm, you sure have bopped around to a lot of interesting locales in your career, eh?
And by the way, LOTUS! Thanks for the info. dumps. I really appreciate it
Mutual, imm, ver’ mutual.
Yes I have. And both my brothers never lived more that 10 miles from where they were born.
Scott Lehigh, Globe column today put together analysis from the PBS “Dark Side” and Suskind’s “One Percent”…
http://www.boston.com/news/glo…..de/?page=1
…”These two impressive pieces of reporting reveal and reinforce a picture of an administration operating in a world where belief overrode evidence and ideology trumped analysis as it pressed for an ill-conceived war.”…
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BUT, it’s a ‘Web Exclusive’…wonder why they wouldn’t put it into the paper edition. I’m tempted to look for tinfoil…online folks are more likely (imo) to already be aware…paper only not so much.
OR, an alternative explanation is that they’re playing more to a ‘netroots’ oriented audience.
hezbollah has threatened a rocket attack on Haifa (sp?), Israeli port city.
Interesting how that goes in families, imm. My bro and I (starting near the geographic center of the continent and both a bit round-about on our way) beat feet for opposite coasts, ending up in SF and FLA.
Whiny Joe is coming up any minute now on M$NBC on Imus …
Twolf1 That is really sad. Haifa is the most diverse city in all the middle east: Jews, Arabs, Drus, Christians, Ethiopian Jews…. It is a city that all of the middle east should immitate.
Thanks for that link, BK – just the first few sentences tell me it’s gonna be a good ‘un.
A story in Huffington Post today suggests that Joe is still entertaining the idea that Lamont’s supporters are motivated by anti-Semitism. I guess that explains how Lamont has the edge among CT’s Jews. Please, Joe, do suggest that anti-Semitism is involved here.
AS IF the Lebanese govt could “rein in Hezbollah”! Criminey!
Cut’n Run Joe is calling his opponents supporters as the “anti’s” …
It is a sad situation. in the ME, it seems no country will ever bend. There are no compromises. It’s my way or the highway… hmmmm.. where have I heard that before. Oh yeah, from the Bush Admin. Which is why the US seems to pull less and less weight, because chimpco has made us the same way.
Ooo — Soros on “Fresh Air” today!
twolf, that old truism: insanity is continuing an old behavior and expecting a new result.
Lieberman is touting his seniority and experience …
lotus, immanentize (et al, FDL)
Thank you all for links that you folks provide. I’d just be ignorantly meandering around w/o info that gets disseminated thru the currents and eddys of the Lake.
Adult Education At Work!
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That Yoo guy has great writing skills. CREATIVE WRITING!
I just wanna puke. Plus, the creative writitng emulates Kafka-esque themes. Not my cuppa…
I heard Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Pearl are flying in to campaign for Lieberman.
Lieberman is touting his seniority and experience …
Does he explain what he’s been doing with them?
Joe is now flogging the litmus-test tendency of the Democrat Party — he’s ‘versatile’
Joe has no regrets about the war — Saddam was bad and it was right to overthrow him …
if the US pulls out, the terrorists will take over Iraq and start attacking neighbors —- according to Whiny Joe
H. Courant quotes a UConn pollster (but I’ve not seen a UConn poll on the Sen race; anyone?)
About both candidates importing volunteers from outta state…
http://www.courant.com/news/po…..tics-state
…”"You’d expect Lieberman to say (they’re) activists who don’t represent the core of the Democratic Party, and Lamont will say (Lieberman’s) people support Washington insiders who don’t want to lose their meal ticket,” Barnes said.”…
“I heard Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Pearl are flying in to campaign for Lieberman.”
For real, Everythingseemssoneat, or is that early-ayem snark?
Whiny Joe is attacking Ned about ‘what’s he hiding’ on his tax returns …
Pearls Be 4 swine…
“Perle’ is swine…..imho
Caught up with y’all now, and thanks for the reassurrances wrt the airline ad. Whew. I complained on air (WERU.org) about how the wretched weather ALARMS always talk about thunder-lightning storms over land and never what to do when you are on the water and TWICE later that day the National Weather service AKA Homeland Security broadcast weather reports about what to do on the water. I know there’s no reason to feel targeted, but……….
Yeah, the ME is just about where the most serious trouble will be found for the forseeable future. At the risk of displaying my utter disgust and disregard for the huge conflagrations that may follow, 3 cheers for Hezbollah for opening up another front. Israel is no friend to the US despite the rhetoric we are fed endlessly. It is a propitiously placed footprint for Ameri-Euro oil interests. On the other hand, Israel wears no velvet gloves ever anywhere, and given the thugs in power here in the US and their utter disregard for the opinions of ANYONE, the responses of the US will doubtless escalate the situation seriously. In reality, the media acts like this was an unprovoked kidnapping when this border area is the site of ongoing problems, and this is a response to what occurred at the end of May, not out of the blue.
I lived in Haifa briefly in the late 70’s. Like the rest of Israel at that time, it was new and shiny, and the problem of its illegal occupations swept under a pile of carpets.
If Wolfie and Perle are welcome within 300 miles of JoHo, he really DOES have a political deathwish.
Lebanese rocket hit the Israeli town of Safed – 7 wounded
Joe attacking on Ned’s tax return? Amazing coincidence…
http://www.courant.com/news/po…..tics-state
…”"It’s really a slap in the face to voters,” said Lieberman’s campaign manager, Sean Smith. “Under any circumstances, candidates for higher office are expected to release their tax returns. In this case, Ned has an even higher responsibility because he is funding his entire campaign with his own personal wealth.”…
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ENTIRE campaign? SOME might quibble with that assertion.
why dont the Israelis simply bulldoze a long strip of land in Southern Lebanon and build a really really high wall to keep out rockets?
ENTIRE campaign? SOME might quibble with that assertion.
It is vitally important to Joe *and* the Democratic establishment to make the netroots as inconsequential as possible. The last thing they want is for a Lamont victory to be perceived as a victory for the netroots.
Send the Palestinians to Ulster, where they’ll be real welcome. Or the Israelis, take your pick.
(sorry, just gotta snark a wee bit. Laugh to not cry.)
Laugh not to cry indeed.
Truly, the ME problems can bring down the US, so seriously damaged as it is by the ravaging of the past 5 years. Chavez says no CITGO oil to most of the Midwest, this current series of events in the ME could disrupt flow of oil from there as well. I don’t know what about y’all in warmer climes, but up here in the cold dark northeast, we’d feel it. My nearest grocery store is many miles away, and while I am surrounded by woods, heating my house for the long cold winter w/out oil would be a problem.
Very subdued tone between Imus and J-Lie.
Missed the line about the anti’s. Hmmm, Aunt Bee, think Hillsman could have fun with that?
We live in a sobering world. Senators on self-absorbed power trips don’t cut it.
I’m not going to ask anymore if he’s ever gotten back to that CT district chair. Has he ever visited Walter Reed?
Ooooh, David Brooks coming up…a two-fer.
It was indeed a subdued tone between Imus and Whiny Joe — kinda like a family gathered around an elderly relative passing away… those 18 years will be quite a memory!
I think the new violence in Lebanon could be a tide that helps all of us who are against the Iraq/Afghanistan Occupation and that obviously includes Ned.
the firm Bush support of Israel is hardly making friends in Iraq — it will be harder and harder for US soldiers to find Iraqis willing to cooperate with their occupation … it’s hard enough already for any Iraqi politician to be seen backing the US occupation — now this Israeli kerfuffle will make cooperation impossible …
Where’s shoephone? He’d have Max quotations like, “Oh, it’s the ol’ Rove playbook #43 trick, eh?”
(re: HoJo versus Ned)
at 4:15pm, it’s a balmy 103ºF in downtown Baghdad …
Iraq is nothing like Vietnam — it’s dry heat in Fallujah and Haditha !
…with the sun barely up, it’s 96 in phoenix az ;)
John C and *ilson, your “tide that helps all of us” and “kerfuffle” language is a whole lot more sanguine than may be justified by what’s started up here. Be careful what you wish for.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/5176158.stm
BK, shoephone be a gurrrl.
ooops…or is shoephone a she?
anyways…
Is there ever enough cowbell?
The business lawyer in me has to correct this:
“Dumb, ignorant, weird.”
Including, without limitation and without reference to rank or order: dumb, ignorant, weird.
Thanks for the links all. The ME stuff is too much for me this morning.
my use of kerfuffle is meant to be horribly ironic — massacre would be more descriptive of the Israeli actions!
Your blechs/kitten update, Mary?
Morning, Mary!
Yesterday some guy named “Jerry” showed up with the old “mary mary quite contrary” thing and I thought he might be THAT Jerry so I told him to quit wearing yellow ties. I hope you don’t mind.
:~)
Apologies to shoephone.
Wonder how fast we see $10-15/gal gas, *ilson . . .
Mornin’ Y’all,
virtual lattes w/ double shots all around
anyone have current polling for Lamont ?
and no, I don’t want to talk about what the Israelis are doing OR that proto-simian’s remarks in Germany
…about oil:
I had predicted, maybe back in May? Bush JAR in 20’s by July 4, (based on $3/gal gas) but this wasn’t included. What will happen next?
catch up w/y’all next thread…
Barbaro presser at 11 AM ET. Doesn’t sound good, that.
blechs better, not gone but better. Horseshoer will be here anytime, so I’m going to try to hang on to the pathetic haggard look (this gets me off the hook when the horses act like misbehaved and linguistically challenged brats)
*ilson – everytime I see your temp updates, I think how frazzled I am when the heat is inescapable. Not even the small things let up there. :(
heard that lotus – that’s mean
Pathetic-haggards begone!
‘cuse me, ‘pro-simian’
is Pathetic one of Merle’s cousins?
Morning imman. I only made it to the NARAL thread yesterday, but I did go back to the hippo thread and saw that. It was pretty funny – not “that” Jerry, at least, I’m pretty sure not. *g*
I also epu’d my complete disgust for Novak. After what Harlow told him, it’s just indefensible what he did. OTOH – apparently Hoekstra is convinced that al-Qaeda has infiltrated the US Press. That’s why they printed the SWIFT info. That Hoekstra – he’s a least as brilliant as yoo.
cbl et al — are you saying Bush is a
MANIMAL?!
“High gas prices are a sign of a failed presidency.” – Dick Cheney, 1998
And with that, it’s Hi Ho, Hi Ho, off to work I go! [sigh] [/sigh]
Jolie to star as Daniel Pearl widow
I’ve got to go meet a man about a horse –
*ilson, I believe Pathetic is one of Merle’s half sisters, which I believe almost by definition makes her a cousin as well.
Mary, where do we find your takedown of Novak?
(salivating heavily)
On the Hoekstra infiltration stuff. It is like he is channelling McCarthy, BUT I don’t believe anyone in America really believes that Al Queda is such an organized octopus of terrorism that it can infiltrate our press and government structures.
Or is he after Amanpour again?
Whis leads to another point. No one acts and no one believes we are really in a serious struggle for the soul or survival of this country.
Primarily, because we are not.
And Mary, sorry you had teh Blechs…
Brooks concern trolling on Imus because, doncha know, he only wants what’s best for the Democratic Party and he wouldn’t want them to repeat ‘68….
ooops…or is shoephone a she?
shephone?
better than a hoephone !
Progressives worried about fairness and justice might want to look at this:
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0712-25.htm
Just a note to let you know that Goper’s Lament (Hard To Be A Republican) was downloaded over 1000 times over night, since 8pm NY time. The best one day total since I posted it on Jan 28.
Many thanks to Jane and FDL.
Namaste.
sorry.
11pm Ny Time…wow.
imm – would certainly explain the SOTU mention
does anyone have a link to whatever is going on w/ Hoekstra – early rumblings were he was to make accusations of evildoers within Intel community, not the librul media
btw, am dashing in and out as I make myself Ab-Fab for the workday
new Christy: “Balancing Act”
Don’t know if anyone has done this, but credit for GOPERS LAMENT should be given to writer and performer Dave Teller, otherwise known as “Subway Serenade.”
lotus – sorry about the salon link. try getting in through the front page: salon.com.