come on, zero

argh! fitz

Brilliant (as always) Retardo.

Sadly, No! is teh bomb!!!1!

didja get a zero?

1. Frisch has never been heard from before now.
2. She quit her job.

Tinfoil theory: Is she a plant? A Poison-The-Waters plant?

Discuss.

Let’s not forget the Bigotsphere series:

http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..rence-yet/

All the links to the series are in that conclusory post.

JoyB – didja get a zero?

it has since evolved into a 1. the thrill is gone.

BTW this is the first I’ve heard of this blog dust-up.

AMEN!

OT- Anyone -other than me- wondering why the MSN is so furiously spinning the NYC gas line expolsion as a ’suiside’ attempt and NO one in the MSN is reporting on the -possibly- gas line related explosions in Elison, Wisconsin?…….MMMMMMM…just wondering.
My tin foil hat is about to burst into flame.

In their minds (sic), all they need is one analagous example to exempt themselves from responsibility for their behavior. Its moral relativism writ large.

So much for me running around saying that Dems don’t have any Coulters or Malkins. I think I can still honestly say that the Repubs don’t have any Frankens and so much the worse for them.

This is getting a bit scary — when ever speech, even innapropriate speech, is met with threats — it is a bad time. Then for the right, who are the most violent eliminationists to complain that they are threatened (and wear the mantle of victim) something is truly screwed. But this is the place we are friends,

Christianity is under constant attack
Newspapapers are treasonouus an dtheir editors should be executed or
the whole of the newspapaer building should be bombed.
Liberals should be shot, hung, blown up, tried for treason, attacked with baseball bats and run over by cars
liberal women should be gang raped
liberal men should be castrated….

But the armed right is the victim?

Surely, the second coming must be at hand.

Ferris, Frisch has pulled this crap before.

wolcott:

Via Crooks and Liars (bless them, bless them), take a listen as Adam Carolla lays down the radio law to Ann Coulter: “Listen, you bitch, don’t call in an hour and a half late and tell me you’re ‘tight on time.’”

I of course gallantly disapprove of the ‘b’ word being used against so gentle a centaur as Coulter. But it’s hard to quarrel with Carolla’s parting shot: “Just take your crappy book and pitch it to your cable outlets.”

once read a Patterico link and my god, no snark, it gave me the same creepy, creepy feelings engendered by listening to a serial pedophile testify in court

keep saying it, these folks are TANTRIC in their approach, glorification, and love of violence and death

Mr. Retardo, great to see you here at da lake

Dover:

Really? She’s got an M.O.? Follow the money.

Reasonable, rational people who can disagree do not attack like she does.

Something about her story is…amiss.

Although she is no miss.

tommy yum – In their minds (sic),

in their sick minds…

re: no.9

tin foil hats. hmmm…. fashions next big thing….or an fdl contest?

She allegedly cyber-stalked a UCLA law prof last year.

Chemical imbalance. That’s one sick girl.

Take your vitamin P, girl.

Indeed, friend punaise.

sick semper tyrannus

hurtful words fly fast and furious in the fast paste world of wingnuttia

Would be very nice if Talk Left would get around to condemning Goldstein they way they jumpe on Deb Frisch.

I don’t care if Jeralyn or Christopher or or John considers “both Jeff and his wife to be friends”; that only makes it worse.

Much worse.

But, heyh ,aving driven the woman from her job and extracted their pound of flesh, nothing to see here, “time for the rest of us to move on.”

The rest of us? Speak for yourself, you arrogant twit.

Mary Ann at 11:43

“So much for me running around saying that Dems don’t have any Coulters or Malkins.”

I have not heard about this until now, so I have a couple of questions.

1) Has Debra Frisch been positively identified as a Democrat? (I don’t know, just asking).

2) Can it fairly be said that Democrats, or people of the left, have supported her efforts the way the Right supports Coulter and Malkin?
(the only commentary I have seen from either side seems to be condemning her).

citizensue at 9

Why do you think someone is actually trying to carry out the Jose Padilla “use the building’s own gas line to blow them up” plan?

There was a suicide email sent BEFORE the NYC blast.

Just to make sure you don’t miss it:

The dishonest arguments to the US Supreme Court regarding Senator Kyl’s manufactured legislative history do have some traction in the conservative newspaper, Arizona Republic: http://www.azcentral.com/news/…..C0710.html

Who is this Frisch chick? I’d never heard of her in my life until this past weekend (granted, I don’t spend time hanging out in Goldstein’s comments section for fun or anything…). How is it, exactly, that a blogger that no one had ever heard of before is suddenly representative of anything beyond her own, personal actions? Good heavens, has the right wing luminary division become so desperate to change the subject that THIS is the best they could do? Jeebus, who doesn’t condemn threats to children. Hello?!?!?!

And who the hell threatens a child? I don’t give a crap whose side of the political fence you are on, children are off limits. Period. That includes liberals and conservatives alike. That it has to be said at all is pathetic.

neuro: As far as I can tell, none of the lefty bloggers I know had ever heard of her until the outrage machine kicked up over her vile comments.

They should see the stuff we moderate out when LGF comes to visit, but I digress.

Goldstein is a sick twit, and so are his commenters. That they wish to suggest one of their commenters who shoots from the left is actually one of us, or that we are somehow responsible for her, is nuts.

Did we ever quote from or link to her blog? No? What kind of linkage and traffic do Malkin and Goldstein get from the wingnutosphere?

I thought so.

Lettuce, why are you bellering at Jeralyn here instead of there?

speaking of children, Joe and Hadassah have four grown kids … none of which are serving in Iraq http://goarmy.com

for that matter, neither are Jenna and not-Jenna and all their cousins — “a rich mans war, a poor mans fight”

Lettuce spray

Pach 28 — Anyone who wants to know why we spend so much effort keeping the FDL comments section clean should take a look at Protien Wisdom and the kind of people who show up when you encourage that kind of discourse. Yeah, you should see what we clean out of the filters. Not to mention the stuff that gets through.

Creeps.

OT: Rove news. Is he joking in the last sentence??

And speaking of stuff that gets through the filters:

MJS: Joe Lieberman to Run as Dependent.

I haven’t read what this woman said about Goldstein. I don’t know if she made actual threats. I did just read what this prof said about her “cyberstalking” him, though:

Deborah Frisch continues stalking my site, sending trackbacks to multiple posts to link to ad hominem attacks. While I appreciate the boost to my TTLB Ecosystem link score, I’m not giving the [rhymes with witch] access to my site. Hence, she is the first and only person whose trackbacks I am routinely deleting from my site.

Now, I used to have a blog. Not a particularly well-read one, but a blog nonetheless. And there was a person who called himself Goldenboy who regularly showed up and posted nasty comments, calling me a traitor, blah blah. He sometimes wished for me to be harmed.

I never became alarmed. I never felt “threatened” by Goldenboy. I didn’t feel like he was “stalking” me. He was an annoying, nasty turd, and eventually I banned him. No big deal.

That’s what this professor did to Frisch. EZ as pie to do.

Now, many many years ago I did have a stalker. An anonymous male person who called me at all hours, not only at home but when I’d be at work or visiting friends and family, letting me know he knew where I was, what I was wearing, etc.

That was frightening. That was stalking.

This stuff, this posting nasty comments on Internet sites, this isn’t stalking, cyber or otherwise It’s being annoying, or being an asshole or a jerk or whatever.

But if it frightens Goldstein or others, then I have an idea: Get off the fricking Internet. Quit publicizing yourself and inviting people to get pissed at you. Because obviously you can’t take people being pissed. And, really, that’s all it is. It sure as hell isn’t stalking. And if someone makes an actual threat, then call the cops.

EZ as pie.

Is it just me or is the right wing world just filled with suppressed homosexual tendencies?

immanentize — yes, scary, and more than a bit.

Al Qaeda poses no serious military threat to the US, but they attack innocent US civilians because they can. The US has no hope of defeating such a movement through military means, but they attack Islamic countries to prove that we can. Tens of thousands are killed, and it goes on without end or even a strategy for ending it.

The Israelis recognize that their incursion into Gaza won’t end the violence, but they go ahead anyway; the Hamas leadership know they cannot win an armed confrontation, but they go ahead and provoke it anyway. Dozens are killed, and it goes on without end. No one asks, “how does this end?”

The right has no compunction about spewing violent or offensive rhetoric against the left; the left says they care, this is not the way, but in rage some still respond in kind.

Who is calling for an end? How does it end? And what does a civilized human being do?

lisa, you are absolutely correct. I used the word “allegedly” above, but that wasn’t good enough. Sorry.

FWIW, when theres a post involving the issue of race (such as the one about Maxine Waters), it is truly disgusting to observe the trolls put on their pointy-headed white robes and ascend here. I’ve worked in civil-rights for 40 years so it gives me great pleasure to smite the hatemongers.

Well said and it can’t be said often enough.

it turned out I was wrong and he had in fact violated his Online Integrity Pledge with special dispensation from Pope Tacitus.

Tacitus left a comment later in which he said he didn’t, in fact, provide the dispensation, but others begged to differ. And your defense enabled me to correct some errors in my post.

Is it just me or is the right wing world just filled with suppressed homosexual tendencies?

Gay as dammit as far as I can tell.

Hey, don’t blame them on MY people! They come by being sick the old fashioned way.

If one of us makes a phone call to Frisch’s former employer (whenever we get to know that) and/or determine more information about her, then maybe we can piece the puzzle together if she is:

A. Real
B. Goldstein’s beard
C. Crazy wacked-out
D. (This is the last time I’ll say this): A Right Plant

(No relation to Robert Plant)

Welcome, and goodbye, to G Ray the concern troll.

Ya beat me to it, tommy.

G Ray already went bye-bye

DB at 34, yes – but that doesn’t mean it’s not true.

Youghta see CNN — the celebration in Roma.

OT, but TPMuckraker wants your help with a poll.

Dover Bitch @ 33:

From the link you provided:

“Contrary to the suggestions, the mythmaking of D.C., I didn’t run the [Saxby] Chambliss campaign,” Rove said of the 2002 Senate race in Georgia…. “Make up your mind: I’m either a genius or an idiot,” Rove said. He denied that he played any role in the campaign, adding that he did not think it was helpful for any campaign to call a war hero unpatriotic.

Time Magazine Elections 2002, page 3:

So the two were prepared when Congressman Saxby Chambliss agreed to Rove’s call to challenge Georgia incumbent Max Cleland, a war veteran and conservative Democrat who had voted with the President on his $1.3 trillion tax cut.
Chambliss had demands beyond the buckets of money Rove promised: “I also need the President to come to Georgia twice,” Chambliss said. Rove looked at him, perplexed. “Can he only come to the state two times?” “No, Karl, I mean twice a month,” Chambliss said. It was an outsize request, but Bush almost lived up to it. He visited Georgia six times—including two stops just before Election Day, which local politicians believe sealed the upset.

‘How conveeeeee-nient’

In all honesty, I’m not sure I “get” Retardo’s post. If he is condeming people for lowering the level of discourse, I think it undercuts the argument to fill his own post with so much ad hominum assault.

If the purpose was to disavow any connection between some deranged woman who wrote posts threatening a baby, I think it would have had much more impact to do so in a calm measured tone.

The shreaking quality of the post dilutes it’s meassage. Such a tone, may be appropriate in some circumstance (none come to mind at the moment), but is counterproductive here.

This is not the quality of writing I have come to expect at FDL. You guys have spoiled me.

I am gonna do something else until a new thread comes up.

This one is no place for me. I am really uncomfortable with the tone of that post. I read the thread, before I read the post.

I see ya’ll later

lotus: the triumphal procession of Caesar and Cleopatra was flashier (especially in Cinemascope)

Looseheadprop,

I didn’t mean to imply that Fitzy lacked
courage… au contraire, I was suggesting that
there is no one in the Bush administration of the caliber of Eliot Richardson that would tell the Prez and Darth Cheney to fuck off if
pushing came to shoving…
I just don’t understand at this point in the
game how Rove avoided a criminal indictment…
Can’t Fitzy hold a presser and clear the air?

Jack

Hi all — I’m the guy whose 1-year-old was the recipient of a vile comment; Retardo refers to me & my wife above.

Jane: Don’t feel bad for defending JG at Feministe. The details of what happened to me & my wife are byzantine and tedious, and it’s easy to get lost in one of JG’s convoluted rationalizations for acting like a complete tool.

But yes, JG did “out” us, as even Lord Captain Commander Tacitus Q. Civilitypants concedes, albeit in his usual charming style. Translated from Tackyspeak, he essentially calls JG a liar who violated the Online Integrity pledge, but that’s OK because I called JG bad names.

I had not been previously acquainted with this form of Integrity, the “if you get called names you can do whatever you want and break your publicly given word” version. But it is new and exciting and I can’t imagine why with logic like this behind it the Online Integrity thing has been a less than resounding success.

I apologize for the inside blogball in this post. But since JG has made it somewhat of a hobby to tell lies in liberal comments sections about his decision to out me and my wife, I just want our side of the story presented clearly. Thanks.

I’m with you, lhp 54, but sorry you have to take off just in time to miss this — Helen T’s latest bumfuzzling of Snowflake, via Raw Story:

THOMAS: What did India say its reason was for firing a nuclear- capable, long-range missile at a time when this is under such –

SNOW: It didn’t do it, but one of the things it did do, Helen, this was not seen as a provocation by the United States or the Pakistanis, both of whom would have reason to do it; nor has it precipitated the kind of diplomatic concern.

THOMAS: (Unintelligble.)

MR. SNOW: Let me continue. They are — they keep their secrets pretty clearly, and they didn’t make any public explanation to that. On the other hand, you will note that there has not been the kind of diplomatic response or the kind of concern expressed by its neighbors as, there has been to the firing in North Korea of its missiles.

Kelly.

THOMAS: One more–wait a minute. Why did they do it?

SNOW: Why don’t you ask them?

THOMAS: I can’t ask them, but I can certainly see our acquiescence in a very contradictory way.

SNOW: You may think it’s contradictory, Helen. You’re wrong.

THOMAS: I’m not. (Laughs.)

QUESTION: is China taking the kind of role that the U.S. has wanted them to take –

SNOW: I’m sorry. Come again? I love that laugh. That was so good. (Snow, others laugh.) I completely lost my train of thought, Kelly. You’re going to have to — (laughs) — that was really good. Go ahead. (Laughs.)
#
Later, Snow went on to blame the exchange for confusion relating to the nations of Iran and Iraq:
#
SNOW: Well, what happened — I’m not sure that you feel pressure, except it was — in the case of Iran, you had a nation that had already spurned 17 separate United Nations resolutions, the United Nations Security Council voting 15 to nothing on a resolution, one — saying to Iran, cooperate or face serious consequences. You had a — I believe it was 72 votes in the United States Senates — the United States Senate.

QUESTION: Excuse–

SNOW: So the point here is –

QUESTION: Are you talking about Iran or Iraq?

SNOW: Well, you were just asking about Iraq, right?

QUESTION: Yeah. I got by — I thought you said Iran. Okay.

SNOW: You know, I may have screwed up. I meant Iraq. Helen’s got me so befuddled today. (Laughter.)

The point is –

QUESTION: The president never said “war” –

SNOW: The point — thank you.

In full here.

Historians say that warring factions within a Republic inevitably spell the death of that Republic, which is exactly what Bushco wants to happen. If they can’t destroy this Republic from the top, they’ll see to it that we do it from the bottom.

Where was all the rightous indignation when Chelsea Clinton was attacked?

Just asking.

Gavin and TBOGG have said already what needs to be said here with regard to the Confederate Yankee, a moralist-of-convenience who thoughtfully plucked his banjo and uncrossed his eyes before condemning the whole Leftosphere for not condemning this blogger we didn’t know about.

Despite the fact that elucidating up on TBogg is a feat most mortals cannot accomplish, I have to say, RM, that the commentary on CY was not really complete until you immortalized him with this description.

Ooo, I remember that, *ilson –’64, wasn’t it? After I reviewed “Cleo” for my hs paper, I got a big shout-out from a neighbor who was (and still is) a columnist on the local paper. Quite turned my head . . .

I did not mean my prior to paralyze the thread. It’s right to call out violent rhetoric and threats and right to call out offensive blogging that “outs” people and subjects them to threats, as Thers describes at 56. We should all condemn this behavior. I wish such condemnation were enough to stop it, but alas, it doesn’t seem to be enough.

*ilson46201 @ 30

This is one of my peeves! BushCo has George P on deck, even trotted him out in the 2000 George W campaign and talked about how cute he was and all the girls would really go for him, bleah. He disappeared when the Iraq invasion started, what a surprise. God, I hate that family, though I am usually such a sweet and delicate person.

Lotus (and Hope Springs, if you’ve got yer ears on …),

I got some good news from Cdt Countertenor. All the makee-learnee’s who were scheduled for forward sites (i.e., on the DMZ) in Korea have been reassigned to bases a bit further back.

They were also warned that if an outbreak of hostilities was felt imminent they would be evacuated directly to the US on a MAC flight.

Apparently all the forward camps are on highest alert status and they don’t want anyone there who doesn’t need to be there.

It’s nice to know that someone in that pointy building in DC is thinking.

Here’s hoping all’s well with your husband, Hope.

BC

LindaR,

“Have I mentioned yet how much I hate these people?”

Mike Malloy, Air America Radio’s Mike Malloy Show

Mike will say it almost every evening during the first hour. I used to worry that Mike was going to have a coronary, now I just figure it’s his way…

BC

WHEW, BC — am I glad to hear that! Thank you and keep the updates coming.

I dunno, *ilson, the death watch for the late Pope and the hoopla and and smoke watch for the new Pope was pretty grand by cinematic standards, too. If you can call wall to wall coverage cinema, that is.

good luck to your jr, BC! Let’s hope that calm and sane heads prevail.

I certainly will not deign to go over and read what she wrote, but don’t you think this is FAKE? As in, she’s just trying to make us look bad? They are DESPERATE!! Desperate measures are called for!! Also, exclamation points, apparently!!

the Pope Death watch didnt have zillions of hunky Italian guys running around exuberantly and shirtless … Viva Italia & a l’enfer avec des racistes

Bargain Countertenor @ 12:42 pm (#64) – If there’s any hope here, it’s in the fact that Kim Il Song is both the aggressor here and the party who has the most to lose if there actaully is a war. One thing we’ve shown we’re good at in recent years is regime change, and for KIS regime change could be fatal.

Wow, good to see I’m not the only to take a sip of the Rude Pundit’s Koolaid every so often. Keep it up!

Kim Il Song, Cujo? D’ya mean Kim Jong Il?

Frisch was banned and deleted from Crooked Timber (a liberal site) over a year ago.

Reuters: White House Asks for Dismissal of NSA Wiretap Suit

BTW, some articulate, impressive representatives of the blogosphere on the Ed Schultz show today talking about the Lamont race! Go guys!

There is SOooooo much misinformation out there about the blogs. I hope that sooner or later it gets straightened out. But thanks to all that called Ed today.

The HoJo-Lamont race really is a big one. It’s all anyone wants to talk about. There are so many issues involved . . . unlike some, I don’t believe that if Lieberman wins it will prove the blogs are powerless. I think we’ve already proven our point just by forcing an 18-year incumbent to prove to the voters that he deserves the seat.

i haven’t followed paste eater’s latest nonissue very closely, but i’ll say that i really don’t care if people on our side use the harshest language as they engage with the wingnuts; the wingnuts deserve nothing less than assault on all fronts, and sometimes that includes discourse that civil people think is beyond the pale. if the right had been in any way civil over the last six years, i wouldn’t be saying this. but as a great turtledove short story illustrates: if the germans had beaten the british, they would’ve gunned down gandhi in a new york minute.

these are honest to god fascists we’re up aginst, and i’m not going to shed a single tear if someone opposed to them says something extreme. we’re still using words, but i just finished watching “army of god” and i’m here to tell you- they are polishing actual weapons as we speak.

Casey Senior was not allowed to speak at the 1992 Democratic Convention because he wouldnt pledge to support Clinton/Gore but the wingnuts have used the abortion speech issue with him to prove the DhimmyRats to be closet Stalinists …

it could be fatal for so many North Koreans, too. ;(

This entire North Korea situation is another abject failure of this government. Read Snow’s take from Raw Story:

>>>>>>>>>>>>

SNOW: Well, this is not the Clinton administration policy. I understand what the Clinton administration wanted to do. They wanted to talk reason to the government in Pyongyang, and they engaged in bilateral conversations. And Bill Richardson went with flowers and chocolates, and he went with light-water nuclear reactors, and he went with promises of heavy oil, and a basketball signed by Michael Jordan, and many other inducements for the “dear leader” to try to agree not to develop nuclear weapons, and it failed. But there was at least a good-faith effort on the part of some very smart people to use that as an approach.

We’ve learned from that mistake. One reason not to go bilateral with the North Koreans is what we’re seeing right now, which is that you need to have concerted pressure, especially from those who have very close and ongoing ties with the government of North Korea, so that you can get results. So this is not a continuation of the Clinton program.

>>>>>>>>
they have learned nothing.

lotus @ 12:54 pm (#72) – Yes, I believe I did. It’s only been twelve years since things changed over there, so I haven’t quite caught up yet.

OT, but what is the roots project exactly? Where does one go to join? thanks!

Hi all,

Thanks for the kind words and warm welcome and thanks to Jane for inviting me to post here.

One thing I left out (sorry):

This is the post by Andrew I referenced in the post.

Cheers to the FDL community and to hell with wingnuts :D

The HoJo-Lamont race really is a big one. It’s all anyone wants to talk about.

as August 8 approaches: Steely Ned’s “Countdown to ex-DC” for Joe-Nertia

OK retard*** : how precisely do you spell your name? are you French or Spanish ?

looseheadprop, I read the link about Fitzgerald that someone had put on for you earlier in the day. I had never read it before, and buried in there, was a point I had never considered before either. We usually picture him–to carry on the image of fighter–as fighting alone AND with one hand tied behind him. This article mentions the likeliness (spelling?)of his having backers. This really intrigues me, and I hope it’s true. The author seemed to favor an idea of some kind of a consortium of liberals, libertarian Republicans etc. I know Gore complimented F. highly in his speech at Constitution Hall. So maybe he has more powerful supporters than we vicious rabid lambs on the blogs think.

new thread — damn Amtrak !

new thread – darkblack going for the hat trick today?

dAmntrack!

angie @ 12:58 pm (#78) – it could be fatal for so many North Koreans, too.

That it could. But by “parties” I meant folks who actually have some control over what happens, which seems to be a group that doesn’t include the North Koreans most likely to die.

Of course, by “Kim Il Song” I actually meant “Kim Jong Il”, so I don’t blame you for missing my point. I’m pretty sure that Kim Il Song isn’t affecting things very much, and he seems to have very little to lose at this point.

Your other point about Snow, et. al., lacking even the ghost of a clue is also right. Clinton did better than BushCo have so far on this issue.

cyber ruffian, the Roots Project is something Pach started (yay Pach!) for FDLers to engage in citizen activism (contacting our reps, supporting campaigns, doing local actions, etc.). The Roots chapters are organized on a state-by-state basis. To enroll, you have to send an email to Pach (Pachacutec01 -at- gmail -dot- com) with the name of your state *only* as the subject line.

Re: NSA Wiretap Suit

Reuters: “In both cases, the Bush administration has invoked a legal doctrine known as the “state-secrets privilege” that it has used to head off other court action spy programs.”

When the intelligence agencies brief a few selected members of the intelligence committees in Congress, the senators and representatives are told it is against the law for them to talk to others about what they learn.

So we can’t (according to the administration) proceed with legal action, and we can’t even tell the full membership of Congress what the government is doing so they could exercise some oversight, if they even wanted to.

How the hell are the people of the United States supposed to have any oversight or accountability of our intelligence activities? Whatever happened to democracy?

It seems like the courts ought to be able to establish some kind of procedure that would allow the necessary information to be viewed by the judge and/or jury without making it public generally. Otherwise, we will have the executive branch exercising raw, unchecked power. It could act in direct violation of law with no accountability.

Oh, I guess we already have that.

Dr. Frisch is an example of a cheesy rhetorical game the wingnuts like to play. It starts with them mischaracterizing a liberal position, usually through some baffling non sequitur.

For example, if you oppose the war in Iraq, the wingnut will assert that you must not support the troops. If the victim of this game plays along, he has fallen for the trap.

L: I do so support the troops!
W: No you don’t
L: Yes, I do!
W: Do you really support the troops? Let me hear you say it.
L: I support the troops.
W: Louder
L: I support the troops!
W: I can’t heeeaaar you!
L: I SUPPORT THE TROOPS!

At which point the wingnut walks away chuckling.

First, he mischaracterized the liberal point of view. Secondly, he can accuse the liberal of flip-flopping on the issue. Thirdly, he’s made it sound like the liberal agreed with the wingnut all along.

With the collusion of the MSM, wingnuts are often able to use this trick against unsuspecting and naive politicians. Sadly, No!, however, was the wrong place to try it out.

Oh, and only in pony-obsessed wingnuttia (and Zengerleland) is wishing for something (someone’s death) equivalent to trying to make it happen (a death threat).

Pardon my french, but this whole who-struck-john-with-their-enormous-dick between the BOYZ in the BLOGOSPHERE is fu-COCK-ta. I need to go take a shower. NOT a cold one.

Quibbling is a waste of time. We’ve got work to do. We should leave them to their masturbation fantasies and get on with it.

This update just in from SNL’s Weekend Update:

Pyongyang, PDRK. Kim Il-Sung is still dead.

BC

*ilson 77 said
Casey Senior was not allowed to speak at the 1992 Democratic Convention because he wouldnt pledge to support Clinton/Gore but the wingnuts have used the abortion speech issue with him to prove the DhimmyRats to be closet Stalinists

I just heard Bob Freakin’ Schrum say that on a Sunday talk show.

Mommybrain:

“We should leave them to their masturbation fantasies and get on with it.”

As I tried to do at 1:09 p.m. above.

Sadly, EPU’d.

Wendy,

“I certainly will not deign to go over and read what she wrote, but don’t you think this is FAKE? As in, she’s just trying to make us look bad? They are DESPERATE!! Desperate measures are called for!! Also, exclamation points, apparently!!”

Is not Congress “debating” whether the internet needs to be “privatized” and would not a hulabaloo like this seal the need for some kind of “regulation”, perhaps under corporate auspices?

Do not mock Boudreaux’s Butt Paste. Saved my diaper-rashed toddler many a sleepless night, too bad it is made in New Orleans and production got knocked out indefinitely.

Gee, I really sincerely feel bad for Protein Jeff. Somebody’s been treating him the same as he’s been treating others? Well, I rebuke her in the name of Jesus!!! And (without pause or undertones of irony) I genuinely feel bad for Protein J. No one should have to deal with that kind of language, and when I say no one I especially mean someone who uses that kind of language frequently, like Protein J himself.

I don’t care about any of this crap all that much but one thing DOES matter:

Leave Kids Out Of It.There’s simply no excuse that can cover that,none.

Haha, I live next door to George Boudreaux himself.

I’ve already said what I think about this on TalkLeft, as Lettuce noted. As for the suggestion that she comment over on TalkLeft, please don’t bother. TalkLeft does not allow name-calling or personal attacks in the comments, it would be deleted.

I read more of Frisch’s blog than I cared to before writing about it. She was way out of line and since no one ever heard of her before, it’s unfortunate that her comments are being attributed to the liberal blogosphere in general.

As for giving up her job, she has written that she didn’t really like it in Arizona and had been thinking of staying in Eugene, OR where she owns a house and used to teach. She’s written lots of posts castigating the University of Oregon because she was denied tenure there. She’s sorry she didn’t sue them and she names the faculty she holds responsible for her rejection. It’s highly unlikely she’d return to teaching there.

My “time to move on” update was in reference to her fourth or fifth apology that she posted on Jeff’s site in which she specifically acknowleged being wrong for attacking Jeff’s child. I thought that one sounded genuine.

Hopefully, she has learned from her mistakes.

I don’t read Jeff’s political writings nor have I praised them. I’ve never even discussed politics with him. But I do consider him and his wife friends and I don’t trash my friends.

Rather than belabor the point and spend more time on this controversy, now that it appears to have died down, I’d rather get back to attacking Bush, Lieberman and people that negatively affect all of our lives, rather than on two bloggers that don’t amount to a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things.

I could not find what this Frisch person is alleged to have written, but I do not have a problem with rude comments being made. Threats of violence, however, should never be made to anyone.

TalkLeft is the worst ‘liberal’ blog on the net. Its comments section is the definition of censorship. Before it became a registration site, I had made comments about its censorship and it censored everything I wrote EXCEPT my initial compliments about the quality of its reporting.

(CHS notes — that goes for you, too, TPX. Jeralyn is a friend of mine, and I will not tolerate some sort of TalkLeft bash fest. Period.)

kc — that’s enough. I mean it. Whatever beef anyone has with Goldstein, the right wing or whomever, you will not take it out on Jeralyn. I will not have it.

…and don’t make me close the comments…I’m too freaking busy to police crap today.

Maybe Ms. Frisch looked around, saw how much attention was paid, and credibility doled out to these nut jobs and thought she’d get her fifteen minutes of fame (which I guess was accomplished). Maybe she naively expected accolades from the left. Silly rabbit woman, Trix depravity is for wingnuts.

People take crap too seriously.

Uh, please, anyone wishing to support me & my wife because of the JG crap, thanks, but please leave Talk Left out of it. Thanks.

Might I suggest that the leftosphere proclaim August “Ignore Jeff Goldstein Month”? Nothing will hurt that attention whore more than a severe reduction in traffic.

Except, you know, for a DOS attack, which I condemn because I’m human and personally responsible for everything other people do to other people. Especially when the hax0rs do it.

Or something like that.

Ms. Ann Onymous Blogger was totally wrong, but she did later apologize to the paste-eater. If she is indeed sincerely sorry, then perhaps everyone should let this go.