Bespectacled Nudnik David Brooks could learn a lot more about what a purge really looks like from Mel Brooks.
I realize he and his fellow Republicans DLC Democrats think running a primary challenger actually supported by rank-and-file party voters somehow represents a radical totalitarian political philosophy that combines elements of corporatism, authoritarianism, extreme nationalism, militarism, anti-rationalism, anti-anarchism, anti-communism and anti-liberalism. Pot, kettle. Projection, much? Heh. I guess we’re accused of "anti-liberalism" because we’re too. . . liberal. Clue for Jonathan Chait: it’s a fucking blessed primary! (Note: reversion to Ned Flanders-speak for the wilting orchids in the audience.)
I’ve always found this bit from Mel Brooks’ History of the World, Part I to be drop dead, laugh out loud hysterically funny. It still is. And yet, viewing it afresh today, it leaves me with a new sensation: a shuddering, sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. The past is clearly, once again, prologue. Instead of Torquemada, we now have John Yoo, Don Rumsfeld, George Bush. We have Gitmo. We have become the Inquisitors.
Not even Jackie Mason or Shecky Green can make that funny.
Let’s see the Bespectacled Nudnik write about that.
Discussion topic: if Mel Brooks were to make a sequel, what might it include?
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fitz
I dunno, but it would be better than a lot of other sequels out there….
Ok how can there be a comment at 7:33 when the post is 8:09pm? I’m late at 8:15 but am baffled how to defeat someone who comments well before the actual post. I bow to my superior. In this instance only :)
Answer: he cheated like a gutter rat.
The sequel: how we became the new Germany, inch by inch, without realizing it. Geneva Conventions? Bah. Constitution? Old stuff. World public opinion? What do they know.
H E L P world out there, help…are you listening? Help us
Discussion topic: if Mel Brooks were to make a sequel, what might it include?
A George Bush doppelganger swaggering around, shooting everybody who disagreed with him, yelling “I AM THE DECIDERERER!!”
iraq baghram abu ghrab gitmo = the cube
Oh lord Pach that’s a little too close to reality right now.
iraq + baghram + abu ghraïb + gitmo = the cube
sorry for the dupe, delete the 1st (#8)
Yeah, Jane. It’s turned into a fuck you comedy skit. In context, it has a burning, accusatory edge that, I think or hope, forces people to see where we are now in a new light.
Instead of Torquemada, we now have John Yoo, Don Rumsfeld, George Bush.
We have Dorquemada.
good answer
Well, you know that part about how the GOP professes to be protecting us all from the demons and perverts and terrorists? And how we’ve been thinking that they demonize the thing they fear themselves to be? Well, all pretense is gone. We can see the “man behind the curtain” and it’s no Oz, that’s for sure. It’s evil and it’s here. It put down roots while others were being distracted with bogus laws and phantom terrors. It’s here.
The sequel? Maybe the bully kid from the Simpsons’ “Ha-Ha.”
Or how about the History of the World, Part…Wait – What World?”
Sad and sick and really, quite terrifying.
Okay this is fun—now emptywheel has a youtube up of Christy at ykos. :)
“Rove Quotes Christy: Ongoing ‘Case’
by emptywheel”
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/
And we have our very own “Minister of Propoganda” – Karl Rove, or perhaps we could just euphemistically refer to him with Bush’s other favorite nickname ……Goebbie Jr
And we have our very own “Minister of Propoganda” – Karl Rove, or perhaps we could just euphemistically refer to him with Bush’s other favorite nickname ……Goebbie Jr
“I want my little Karl!”
Rant number nine:
The accusation that the US. cut and ran from Vietnam after almost twenty years of unsuccessful and unmerited intervention in Vietnam is political fodder. Success after Vietnam is that anyone who opposes war is successfully painted as an unpatriotic flag burning traitor by some asshole neocon. I (nor anyone else) need not approve of a past, present or future of torture, oppression, slavery, ethnic cleansing, land/resource grab imperialist warfare of any sort to prove love of the land I live on. Paint me traitor cut and run, we shouldn’t be in Iraq in the first fucking place and staying another day won’t make it right. Boot neo-con bums off the planet, the one Al Gore talks about with trees, polar ice and something left un-pillaged. Not many in Congress represent me, am I that far from the norm in the US. or is congress pledging allegiance to their own fat ass… well I know that. Senator Lamont, we have approximately 530 members of congress to replace and about half the country to reeducate, educate. I’m not ready for my “vacation” to the east coast of Cuba but one more nanosecond of Bushdumb kingdom is grinding. Seems with Castro close to his 200th birthday it’s time to take Cuba back in the fold, there maybe a lot of us down there soon.
Maura reports in at the end of the last thread with some John Lewis news.
Mel told us at the end of History of the World Part 1 what would be in the sequel:
SEE…Hitler on Ice!
SEE…a Viking funeral!
SEE…JEWS…IN…SPACE!!!
History of the World:
The End Of The American Century
Boy, whatta downer. The only way out is endless investigations to find out how all this shit happened and to drive a stake through the hearts of the guilty. Hang their carcasses out for the sport of crows as a grissly reminder to those, who in the future (mistake of Vietnam redux–Iraq) entertain such idiotic and demonic schemes.
De-lurking from Germany: have you seen the action alert by Avila at DKos? (Currently one of the top recommended diaries.) You may have heard that one of the chief apologists & ideology-peddlers for torture, William Haynes, has been nominated to a judge-ship at the 4th(?) U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. Senate hearings begin tomorrow (???)
The diary has full info, the nominee’s background, the background of the legal contortions to legitimise torture, plenty of links, senators’ addresses a.s.o. Please check it out. (P.s. I was in a hurry to post here, so I don’t recall if the hearings are before a full Senate or the appropriate committee.) Good night and good morning, Agnes (5:52 a.m., Berlin time)
Yet another thing I find in common between myself and the rest of the FDL community – appreciation for great comedy from Mel Brooks. That’s my second favorite Brooks movie and that clip is my favorite scene from it, especially the part of that scene when he spins the 3 watermills like a slot machine. My favorite Brooks movie is To Be Or Not To Be, set in Poland during WW2 and the only movie he ever did with his wife Anne Bancroft.
If he were to do a Part II, I am certain he would do a bit about the Berlin Wall coming down, he always loves skewering the Germans. He would also do a bit about Y2k and all the doomsday prophecy that took place in the 90s.
Finally the entire Cheney Administration era would round out the rest of the movie. Its all so farcical the story writes itself and Brooks would only need to write minimal parts.
DEPU’d Eli
double epu’d
Neo-Conn party
new-ct party
bwahahahaha
It would include something about the Dems uniting in Ohio to take out DeWine…maybe a pun the from an Eric Burdon/War song. I dunno. But…
http://news.com.com/FBI plans new Net-tapping push/2100-1028_3-6091942.html
“The FBI has drafted sweeping legislation that would require Internet service providers to create wiretapping hubs for police surveillance and force makers of networking gear to build in backdoors for eavesdropping, CNET News.com has learned.
FBI Agent Barry Smith distributed the proposal at a private meeting last Friday with industry representatives and indicated it would be introduced by Sen. Mike DeWine, an Ohio Republican, according to two sources familiar with the meeting.”…
-snip-
“Jim Harper, a policy analyst at the free-market Cato Institute and member of a Homeland Security advisory board, said the proposal would “have a negative impact on Internet users’ privacy.”
“People expect their information to be private unless the government meets certain legal standards,” Harper said. “Right now the Department of Justice is pushing the wrong way on all this.”
Neither the FBI nor DeWine’s office responded to a request for comment Friday afternoon.
DeWine has relatively low approval ratings–47 percent, according to SurveyUSA.com–and is enmeshed in a fierce battle with a Democratic challenger to retain his Senate seat in the November elections. DeWine is a member of a Senate Judiciary subcommittee charged with overseeing electronic privacy and antiterrorism enforcement and is a former prosecutor in Ohio.
A panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C., decided 2-1 last month to uphold the FCC’s extension of CALEA to broadband providers, and it’s not clear what will happen next with the lawsuit. Judge Harry Edwards wrote in his dissent that the majority’s logic gave the FCC “unlimited authority to regulate every telecommunications service that might conceivably be used to assist law enforcement.”"
-snip-
“If the FBI’s legislation becomes law, it would derail the lawsuit because there would no longer be any question that Congress intended CALEA to apply to the Internet.”
——
This may be old news here on/at the Lake, but first I’ve seen. This cannot be allowed.
Spill DeWine.
Spill DeWine.
I like it.
How about “DeWine bugs me”?
I can just see all those Repug fundies sittin’ in the dark in their double-wides, gnoshing on Orville Redenbacher’s best and grinnin’ and singin’ along a capella with Mel…“the inquisition is here to stay!”
Aaaaggghhh…this must be a dream, mustn’t it?
Put De Wine in the coconut, and listen to the wingnuts..
That, by you, is a definition of a nudnik?
A guy walks into a psychiatrist’s office and says ‘ Doc you have to help me. I’m desperate’. The psychiatrist says ‘what’s the problem?’. The guy says ‘ I talk to myself inside my own head. I’ve tried everything to make me stop but nothing works. You have to help me or I’m going to go out of my mind’. The doctor says ‘Just relax. There’s nothing wrong with that. Everyone does it. I do it all the time.’ Well that’s fine for you doc’ says the man ‘but you have no idea what a nudnik I am’
Aaaaggghhh…this must be a dream, mustn’t it?
Or… a vision.
Suddenly I seem to be in a sequel to The Omega Man…
OT, for those of us that would rather chew our arm off than use Internet Explorer;
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3216
Firefox 2.0
Discussion topic: if Mel Brooks were to make a sequel, what might it include?
Oh, I think he should borrow extensively from the Dr. Strangelove movie. The current WH crowd fits the movie nicely.
Ghostman
Ghostman — I recently bought Dr. Strangelove but have yet to have time to watch it.
Man, did anyone see John Dean on Olbermann? I”m on the West Coast, so I may be on the late freight here.
He was hawking his new book, which apparently deals with studies of the psychological bases of modern conservatism — Dean used the phrase “Authoritarians” to describe the unique species we refer to as “wingnuts.
Both he and Keith were VERY grave and almost shaken during their lengthy discussion, Dean at the end telling Keith we are very close to fascism — and Olbermann not batting an eye.
Seems that these two really, really get it.
Sandcandu-rough cut in a Brooks fashion
How about a bunch of fancy exneo conboys riding camels with no saddles through the desert. Some Woody Guthrie dubbed over Nusrat Fetah Ali Kahn type music. One camel is dragging a lasso tied Rummy who is mumbling “ok ok i’ll make a new conboy policy.” Cheney yells back “shut up Rummy.” Fade to night scene around a campfire of cash bundles only. Every cowboy gathered near in a sort of huddle murmuring “moma moma.” Karl the cook looks over at lil shrub while he spills some beans and says “yer kinda cute.” Suddenly a couple of Haliburton Patty wagons pull up doors swing open spilling more cash, with a couple of fire hoses spraying black oil till they are soaked and the wagon leaves. Several camels pass gas. Fire is all over the camp now, crying and coughing sounds as a bomb explodes. It’s dawn only one exneoconboy remains sitting up and dazed. Off to the left sits Kos wearing a Mark twain hat and a white suit at a nice little table, blogging about it with Dixie Chicks music coming out of his laptop.
Bustednuckles, thanks for the heads up on the Firefox update. I’m not enough of a techie to use it yet, I’ll wait a week for other, smarter people to find those initial problems.
mercury, yup, Olbermann and Dean most definately get it. That’s the kind of info that should be on every network, every day.
Not gonna happen, but it should.
Mercury-
Keith and John seemed very shaken to me as well. As well they should be. When I heard that Dean was going to be on Countdown, I figured it would be regarding Kyl and Huck Graham.
This was scarier.
Chris Floyd sums up an impending doom (the logic of evil) quite well here-
Diplomatic Deception: The Calm Before the Firestorm
http://www.chris-floyd.com/ind…..llComments
36, Matt O: I think you’ll enjoy the movie. It’s older than you are! Try imagining which current WH people would play the characters you’ll see in the War Room. But also, just watch it and have a good laugh.
Ghostman
Hey Dorquemada What do you know?
I just got back from Guantanamo
Guantanamo? What’s Guantanamo?
It’s where all the Muslims are gonna go.
The Accusation – All you need to know
The Accusation – at Guantanamo . . . .
The Accusation – We hope you’ll go away . . .
But the Accusation’s here and its here to stay . . . .
The Accusation – You’re a celeb
The Accusation – at Abu Ghraib
The Accusation – We hope you’ll go away . . .
But the Accusation’s here and its here to stay . . . .
Put it in the car . . .
RGJoe’s party.
Hedge Party
1 a : a fence or boundary formed by a dense row of shrubs or low trees b : BARRIER, LIMIT
2 : a means of protection or defense (as against financial loss)
3 : a calculatedly noncommittal or evasive statement
summer camp inquisition:
“hello Mudda
hello Fada
here we are in
Camp Torquemada”
Oy the agony.
Oy the shame.
To make my privates public for a game?
Good to see you keeping the Late Nite fires blazing, Pach!
Things are lovely here at the beach. I am sunburnt and overfed.
This is my first exposure to cable news in quite a while, though. I killed the television in my apartment, so when I visit someone who has cable, I do News Tourism. I see that things haven’t gotten any better in Big Media.
Now I don’t want that this should scare you,
But my bunkmate has malaria.
You remember Jeffery Hardy,
They’re about to organize a searching party!
Take me home, oh Mudda, Fadda,
Take me home, I hate Torquemada!
Being a San Franciscan,
“The Great Quake of ‘06″
comes to mind.
Blank Kludge 27, that p.o.s. DeWine. Good for absolutely nothing. Thanks for the link, I’ll send it out to other Ohioans.
Jenny f t B – LOL, the good old days
Liererman to Run as Dependent Candidate
http://www.correntewire.com/jo….._dependent
“To sleep, purge ants, to dream -
ay, there’s the rub.”
You know, I stopped watching all television news, including the cable shows after the Bush/Kerry debates. Just turned it off. I can’t have lies pumping into my environment anymore.
How much DeWine must a man wash down, before you call him a lamb? The answer my friend, is blowing inter tubes.
punaise -
he he. ‘night!
the posting of that comment was precipitated by kitten dancing across keyboard
You know, I stopped watching all television news, including the cable shows after the Bush/Kerry debates. Just turned it off. I can’t have lies pumping into my environment anymore.
I watch Daily Show and Countdown. Other than that, there has to be some kind of special occasion.
My Suggestion for Mel:
Who shook all tha world bankers
Who think they can rhyme
Shot tha landlords who knew it was mine
Yes, it’s a war from tha depth of time
Oh, Hear the masked scream
War within a breath
It’s land or death
Rage Against the Machine
Eli – agreed along with c-span.
NSA sequel: Planet of the Tapes
Oh McCoughlin for kicks and some Charlie Rose.
Punaise – I still think Lieberhosen looks like the old blonde doctor from Planet of the Apes.
so-so doom and gloom song from the Reagan era (?), timely lyrics:
The Call – The Walls Came Down
I watch c-span but not the snark shows. I can get my laughs here. :)
You can see the KO-Dean interview on MSNBC.com… ‘Countdown’: Dean on Bush’s woes.
Scary indeed and just more evidence of what we were discussing in the FUBAR thread with Sam and Stephen. No amount of facts, no theory proven false — nothing — can make some people abandon their faith in their authority figures.
If they believe it’s the middle of the night, no sunburn can tell them otherwise. It’s like 23-30 percent of the country has a chip in their skulls.
So Jenny are you Nurse Diesel?
No amount of facts, no theory proven false — nothing — can make some people abandon their faith in their authority figures.
It still amazes me that a cult could be created around such a transparent loser.
So Jenny are you Nurse Diesel?
It totally ruins my night when Jenny witholds th fruit cup, so strive always to be obedient and punctual.
Nurse Diesel? fruit cup? that’s one loop I’m way out of….
Dover Bitch – I think it will take an energy and of food shortage to wake these zombies out of denial.
That link http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/7/10/20596/1741 on William Haynes is a must read imo. What a fright! Mary will be cussin’ over this.
Dover Bitch – I think it will take an energy and of food shortage to wake these zombies out of denial.
I keep thinking of the end of The Dead Zone…
Nurse Diesel from Mel Brooks movie High Anxiety.
OK, got it. thanks ES, Ar
Eureka springs at 71:
Dover Bitch – I think it will take an energy and of food shortage to wake these zombies out of denial.
That won’t do it. Anything bad that happens is the fault of the evil librul enemy, either directly or by interfering with Dear Leader preventing it. In their minds, it would just be justification for more authority.
Nurse Ratchett’s cousin.
The sequel would include “Jews in Space” just like the end of the movie says :D
This is so ironic. I bought the Mel Brooks collection of all his movies on DVD this weekend. It was $70 at Wal-Mart. It was a much needed purchase.
Redshift – You are probably right.
The Eocons In Space
What would make them happy?
Jamie – Just thinking about you this afternoon when I was cut & pasting a comment. Much thanks for working the bugs out of this bright little internets oasis.
DITTO JWR at 10:53!
not even jackie mason or shecky green can make that funny.
shecky green? don’t you mean pat cooper?
Well crap.
The post by Agnes at 24? deserves a serious look. You may have heard that one of the chief apologists & ideology-peddlers for torture, William Haynes, has been nominated to a judge-ship at the 4th(?) U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. Senate hearings begin tomorrow (???)
I had not heard that. Up until now, Sen. Leahy (God Bless Him) had been pretty much unilaterally keeping that nomination on hold. Haynes is incredibly bad news.
HEY JOE – just how do you and the Gang of 14 plan on dealing with this atrocious nomination?
crap crap crap
Haynes, who they plugged in as counsel to the Pentagon, joined forces with Cambone at Rumsfeld’s behest to pretty much beat down the combined rest of the military counsel and top officers who WANTED to observe Common Article Three of the Geneva Conventions. By absolutely refusing and demanding that they instead adopt what have now been held to be procedures and positions in violation of the War Crimes Act – he is getting his payoff.
While his nomination has been on hold for awhile, having Lutting move off the bench to take that ripe plum of an offer from Boeing has made putting someone on more of an issue.
So Haynes is now front burner-ing. I could cry for what these insane immoral cretins are doing to the Federal court system.
Torture Bybee in the 9th, Torture Haynes in the 4th, Kavanaugh on the DC Cir.
If the God DAMNED Dems can’t get their act together on this one, they are worthless in the extreme, and if Graham and Kyl gunrun for him, they are beneath contempt.
I want to curse and throw things.
Just when you think that they are running low on the monstrous and malacious – they pull another immoral incompetent who has willfully and willingly threatened the integrity, honor and safety of our military at the whim of Addington, Cheney and Rumsfeld.
Billmon weighs in with a graphic worthy of darkblack
Great catch Dover:
Dover Bitch says:
July 10th, 2006 at 7:33 pm
I know the CT Senate race is where my brain is focused lately, but in case anybody missed it, Paul Hackett threw his support to Sherrod Brown in Ohio today.
This is real good news for Brown and a shining example of what a real Democrat would do (hint, hint, HoJo).
That race is still tight and nothing could be better for women’s and civil rights, at least as far as the Senate is concerned, than to get that bottom-feeder DeWine out of office.”
Old-Time FDL’ers will remember we lost at least two commenters over this. Oakland Melanie or Mel? and I am embarrassed I cannot remember the other one’s name, because she was really important in getting the netroots launched.
John Casper – you pre-date me in these parts
that’s my second favorite brooks movie
not even in the top 5 for me.
young frankenstein
blazing saddles
the producers (original)
spaceballs
uh….
ok, in the top 5
history of the world part i
got say, it’s good to be the king.
but actually, i would, if i could, put the first 3 seasons of “get smart” as number 3. but honorary mention goes to 12 chairs.
Mary – It’s horrible, the brazen audacity never fails to surprise me a little. Such a short notice I will have to use NSA or rather AT&T in the morning on this one.
Hey Skippy, A Scanner Darkly was excellent. Robert Downey Jr. made the film. Thankfully, they stayed true to the book.
“I want to curse and throw things.”
Old glass jars against concrete works for me.
Easy to sweep up too.
I think your comments in part are attracting a lot of other smart lawyers. Eventually, it might lead to some kind of legal net roots. For right now, please keep venting. It sounds like it helps you and they make for terrific comments.
Arianna:
Robert Downey Jr. made the film.
Is it wrong of me to have a terrible crush on him?
Don’t forget Alberto Gonzales!!
He’s the REAL Torquemada in the bunch…It’s his cold clammy hands that write the legal opinions to justify torturing.
John Casper – You shoulda heard Hackett sticking it to Lieberman today on Ed Schultz’s show this afternoon. Big Eddie luvs him some Joe.
punaise – Thanks for the Billmon, but I thought I remembered you from the time John’s referring to. And did you start here with a different handle?
but TRex – he’s B list. and you’re so A-list now….
ALL ABOARD!
http://apoeticjustice.blogspot…..train.html
but TRex – he’s B list. and you’re so A-list now….
I could slum with Downey, Jr., couldn’t I? Would y’all still be my friends?
JWR – I (ahem) must not have been as engrossed back then. I recall coming to FDL in the build-up to Libby indictments – August/September 2005? originally posted as punaise/berkeley until 2006 rolled around…
TRex, I think you’ll find that we’re very indulgent
Here’s a link to the Avila diary at KOS
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/7/10/20596/1741
More on topic, I’m pretty sure Brooks would use the military running around screaming that suicides by people held without hope and treated like animals for half a decade is “assymetrical warfare”. Probably use fafenblog’s (sp?) piece whole.
The “peace is war” bits.
The insane guy who goes to funerals saing that dead soldier’s are God’s judgment on America for gays or abortion or pink lemonade or whatever.
The insane guy who called for the assasination of another nation’s elected leader and who thinks natural disasters visit on the heels of court decisions unfavorable to his theories on evolution, church and state, pink lemonade, or whatever.
The “who knew the levees might not hold” statements right after being briefed on — the levees not holding. The concept of “it’s not a problem until someone makes me a DVD, especially with that nice Brittany Spears signing in the background”
Santorum in pink and lavendar seersucker, with the jar in the office.
. . .
where do you stop?
Damn, and I was really counting on you punaise.
Yeah, Christy announced one Saturday morning a poetry contest. Oakland Mel got pissed and told us we were wasting ourselves on poetry when we should be out fighting injustice and stuff. A few of us asked Mel to dial it back a little (but not me punaise, you know). She got more angry and withdrew her active support from this other commenter (whose name I can’t remember) who was really key in the net roots. IIRC they were both working for Hackett in Ohio. The other commenter came aboard and blasted all of us for not supporting Oakland Mel more. She hung around a little longer, but the thing with Hackett really pissed her off.
My memory isn’t what it used to be and it never was very good. Apologies if I have offended anyone or not told things accurately. I guess it has been on my mind lately, because of the loss of Valley Girl. Kind of felt the same way.
The loss of Valley Girl?
Thanks for the link, Mary. Just what the country needs.
Will read up on that topic this week.
I tell you, earlier I was watching Anderson Cooper 360, and I saw that the “woman” those U.S. soldiers raped and killed in Iraq was A 14 YEAR OLD GIRL.
What.
The fuck.
Then they had Chimpy on, followed by Snow Job, gassing away about North Korea, and I just had to get up and walk down to the beach and try to remember that not all people are evil.
As long as these people are our “leaders”, none of us can rest easy. We must do everything within our power to fight for the truth, for peace, and for sanity.
I just…I just can’t believe that people this evil have managed to hijack our country and use our military as a weapon for their personal vendettas. We really are the Worst Nation in the World now. It makes me so sad, so angry, so frustrated.
God, please just let us make it to November.
sorry to let you down, John Casper! VG: proclaimed gone forever (makes me wonder if there’s more to the story, behind the curtain). every now and then I wonder about formerly active posters and wonder what became of them; are they lurking? karen black for instance. Grandpa. others?
Dover Bitch 102 – yes, a couple of weeks ago. flamed out, with cause, as a moderator and decided to move on.
John C.—in internet time, your memory is pretty good. I vaguely remember the Oakland Mel dust up and also must admit I can’t remember the other person’s name.
One of the commenters I miss is Grandpa. He was a fellow Seattleite and late night commenter. I hope he knows what a contribution he made.
Punaise—Wow, are we talking about the same Grandpa and are you thinking of Karen Allen from Ohio?
OT,scuse me-
Stephen Parrish, I left computer info at the end of the last thread.
Thanks.
punaise – Yeah, that’s the name I remembered.
John Casper – Melanie Oakland?
John C – whatever else, it does help me some to vent.
I had a bad feeling this was being set up from the time I heard of Luttig going to Boeing. Boeing – which was going under until Pearle and Rumsfeld had the WH discussions re: their campaign pal and got the billions for the supertanker back on course. It’s not like Boeing owed anything to the Admin. to help with paving the way to a Haynes 4th Cir appointment.
I hope some Dem gets Mora in to testify at a minimum.
I swear we might as well rename the whole freaking department for the proclivities of their leaders, which the rank and file allows them to indulge in, unimpeded and without murmer.
Department of Torture. Similar to the Department of Transportion in initials, but a whole different use for buses and mass transit.
It is UNBELIEVABLE and how anyone works for such a blatantly criminal, immoral, corrupt crew without calling them on it is beyond my abilities of understanding or forgiving.
Worthless members of a valueless community.
RBG – yep, same ones
RBG Scores!
Yes, Karen Allen.
JWG Scores!
Melanie Oakland
Jane and I dug through the old blogger archives hoping Grandpa might have left an e-mail address on some thread but we came up empty. I keep thinking he’d be a great addition to the WA State Roots Project.
Sorry to hear about VG. I’ve been a moderator (briefly) on a message board and never want that job again.
The official scorekeeper will record RBG’s score with an assist from punaise.
Mary – I must confess I don’t follow all of your legal-beagletudes, but your passion and smarts are vital to FDL.
“It is UNBELIEVABLE and how anyone works for such a blatantly criminal, immoral, corrupt crew without calling them on it is beyond my abilities of understanding or forgiving.”
emptywheel has a theory Rove always hires people with skeletons so he can control them.
I just remember all my ancestors/relatives back in Germany, backing Hitler through the slaughter of a million Poles and six million Jews.
RBG – LOL – it was a breakaway and I passed to you for the score
Thanks for a great thread, as per usual, I have to turn in.
wasn’t Karen Black (along with a few others) involved in a kind of proto-Roots Project around Mean Jean Schmidt in Ohio?
buenos nachos, John Casper
I’m calling it quits too. But anyone who has the time and effort tomorrow – the numbers are up on the Avila diary linked above. Every member of the Judiciary Committee knows Haynes, Leahy has been sitting on this one for awhile.
Tell them NO. It demeans the whole country to even proffer such a nomination right after the Hamdan. And tell the Republicans they should consider asking the President, head of their party, to instead appoint the very Republican, very conservative, Alberto Mora. Who received the Profiles in Courage award for standing up to Haynes and Rumsfeld.
Night all
:(
I think Rummy just launched another photo op to Afghanistan to prove everything’s still going really well there, despite media stories to the contrary. Expanding the Bubble in that way that they do.
Good night, JC.
Punaise…you’re almost right. Karen Allen, among many other great comments about organizing in Ohio, wrote about infiltrating several of Mean Jean’s meetings.
Meta, What set off your Afgani tin foil?
Hi Eureka, I actually don’t do tinfoil!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5167474.stm
Just another one of those macho surprise thingys.
I recycle mine, just don’t know how to live without these days.)
Zennurse and I were both EPU’d on a previous thread and both of us need help to stay abreast with our cyberworld. If Stephen Parrish CPA or any of you smart people can give us some long distance technical assistance, we’d sure appreciate it.
If you don’t mind, I’d like to re-post for both of us. Thanks.
zennurse says:
July 10th, 2006 at 11:25 pm
Stephen Parrish, CPA says:
July 10th, 2006 at 8:02 pm
“zennurse says: “I think my sound card is dead. I’ll take it to The Geek Squad at Best Buy tomorrow.”
July 10th, 2006 at 7:40 pm
How old is your computer? How long has it been silent? Is the sound card original equipment? What operating system are you using? I will look for your reply in the morning. After I read it, I might have some suggestions.”
Thanks,Stephen,you always come to my rescue. My computer is less than a year old, it’s a Compaq V2000 laptop.It has been silent for 24 hours, no audio on programs and sites U mentioned and no computer sounds either, I use Windows xp and Firefox for a browser, Tonight I tried to test it through the Windows Help Section and no .wav files would work. The computer tells me the programs are running without a problem. I also cleared my computer, browser and cookies as ccmask suggested. I’m leaving this here.
If you have thoughts,I’m ready to try them.
Thanks
zen
radlib1 says:
July 10th, 2006 at 11:20 pm
Stephen Parrish CPA (or any other kind techno-literate people) — While you’re helping zennurse, maybe you could also help a late-blooming Luddite like me.
I’ve been finding it impossible to watch these wonderful commercials and music videos on YouTube. Before, it was because I didn’t have the sound on. Finally, after weeks of watching Billie Holliday sing silently, I accidentally touched the sound arrow on the bottom and — voila, I could suddenly hear!
Now, it’s become even more infuriating. I press the button to watch (and hear) and all I get is a black screen with the word “LOADING” staring at me. I look at the bottom of the screen and it says “44 out of 45″ or “53 out of 54″ or “36 out of 37 items”. Tantalizingly close, but no cigar or video. Always one “error” away.
I just went to the official “Ned Lamont” site and was able to watch “Messy Desk” in both Quicktime and Windows, but YouTube still stubbornly persists in shutting me out now.
What’s going on with me or my iMac? I’m using Safari at OS 10.39. Bwaaaa! Help!
RBG – Punaise…you’re almost right. Karen Allen…
oh, duhhh, I glazed right over that. What was I thinking – Last Picture Show?
What was I thinking – Last Picture Show?
Nope: Five Easy Pieces and Easy Rider
I remember Karen Black from Five Easy Pieces and Karen Allen certainly helped inspire what became the Roots Project. Hope she’s doing well.
sorry, radlib1, I’m no help
I’m using Safari at OS 10.39. Bwaaaa! Help!
DINGDINGDINGDING!!
You Tube won’t run in Safari for some reason. Try it with Firefox.
TRex 133:
I use Safari to play YouTube stuff all the time.
Safari 2.0.4, Mac OS 10.4.7
FYI…
radlib1 – I’ve been searching to no avail for info on zennurse’s problem. I’d probably just re-install the sound drivers.
If TRex’s fix doesn’t work, AFAIK YouTube requires the latest version of Macromedia Flash. If your software is out of date, it should tell you as much when you try to play a video, but it couldn’t hurt to pay a visit to Adobe.
zennurse – If you see this, I trust you’ve already opened up your volume control to make sure some program or other, (Winamp, Windows Media player, etc), didn’t mess with the master volume control?
how ’bout a shout-out or recommend to Maura in VA for her diary at DKos:
“Today I Told Joe Lieberman He is a Fair-Weather Democrat”
Re: Safari playing video.
I updated Safari recently, and had problems. Had to go back to the applications folder, highlight Safari, then go to the “File” menu on top of the screen and choose “Get Info”. Once that window appears, click the box labeled “Open with Rosetta”.
The upgrade had somehow “unclicked” it. HTH — I am running OSX 10.4.7
punaise @ 83:
Beyond the pail
;>)
radlib1
10.3.9 ought to play YouTube just fine. Couple of questions, though:
1) iMac G4 or G5? (Only matters if you’re using Airport [wireless] 802.11b without an Apple base station
2) Got RAM?
3) Repaired permissions lately?
4) Flash version? Below is the latest.
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave…..omoid=BIOW
…one thing I’d like to say here before I flame out on this full moon in capricorn night…I listened to that Ed Schultz guy on air america for a brief time while trucking around today… and he was talking to this guy from Ohio (a politician with brains and I can’t remember his name – Haskel?) anyway this guy put Ed in his place about Lieberman and I think made him understand what Joe is doing and why it is so bad…it took awhile since Ed, being a hunter who tells us all the time he SHOOTS ANIMALS FOR SPORT SO THEREFORE HE’S A REAL MAN, can be a dim bulb now and then…but I think he got it as he was hanging on this guys every word. Before this interview Ed was screeching away about how we have to allow that 10% vote thingy and that not every body can agree etc…but after he talked to the pol guy he was definitly in a different space (I think) anyway sorry if this was discussed before I didn’t have enough juice to read the whole thread…my computer crashed today and I can’t find some stuff so gotta go fiddle with it for awhile, back later…anybody still up?
Whew,
every once in a while i feel like I’m smack dab in the middle of a Spike Lee joint, and I’ve never been to New York…
Remember in “Do the Right Thing” when Spike juxtaposed the philosophy of Malcolm X and Dr. King, Jr.?
I read this on World Can’t Wait website:
http://worldcantwait.net/index…..Itemid=220
“
oops, here’s the quote, duh.
“It’s important that all of us, anti-war activists, progressive Democrats, disaffected Republicans, supporters of the separation of church and state, women worried about living under a Christian fascist theocracy, and people who have never thought about politics before now support World Can’t Wait’s actions. Obviously, winning one primary in Connecticut isn’t going to get the job done.”
darkblack – the common denominator: comfy footwear
Jacqrat 138:
Interesting. I hava had no problems with Safari & YouTube. This particular iMac G5 started out at 10.4.x, so perhaps since I didn’t have to make the transition from 10.3 to 10.4, my life was easier.
My Windoze XPHome box also runs YouTube just fine, FWIW.
newtonusr 140:
1) iMac G4 or G5? (Only matters if you’re using Airport [wireless] 802.11b without an Apple base station
I’m using an iMac G5, from 12/05, with a Netgear 802.11G router.
As usual, YMMV.
SteveAudio@145:
Using the Core Duo iMac here. I also updated to the most current flash version before I checked the “Rosetta” problem. Could be either/or?
Jane’s post on Maxine Waters is up at Alternet: Maxine Defies; Barbara Disappoints.
And The Hartford Courant has a new piece on the Waters/Lewis divide.
My Windoze XPHome box also runs YouTube just fine, FWIW.
Likewise; also XPPro at work. Firefox, both.
Jacqrat 147:
Using the Core Duo iMac here.
You bastard!
Seriously, had I known the Inel macs were coming 3 weeks after I got my new iMac, and me using a PC only for AutoCAD, oh well, I needed the tax break for ‘05.
Spiderpaws -
You were listening to Ed with Paul Hackett – the Iraq war vet that took a run at a Senate (House?) seat in Ohio before the DSCC pressured him to withdraw to let a “stronger” candidate run for the Democratic slot.
hey spied, er, pause
what you got in store for us?
While I do not agree completely with this author’s assesment of the Lamont/Lieberman primary, I do agree with his placing his argument in the context of rich vs. poor.
That is the deal. Its the deal historically, its the deal currently…
How many more years of complacency by average Americans in regard to civil liberties and the redistribution of their money to the uber-wealthy? 10, 20? By that time the federal police state mechanism will be operating in full gear. No tinfoil hat here, just plain old disgust.
If you truly believe Democrats will save our society, I sincerely pray a leader in the mold of FDR emerges from this current cesspool.
I may have to read a few excerpts from the The Gilded Age just to remind myself this shit has been going on for a long time, plus a couple laughs.
spiderpaws – Paul Hackett
punaise – I had to register on Kos in order to recommend someone. Evidently royalty has a 24 hour waiting game. Oh well
SteveAudio,
I EARNED my core duo iMac… because I previously owned the “Edsel of Macs”, an Emac.
Which crashed and burned and destroyed 4, count ‘em, 4 Hard drives before I convinced Apple to send me a new machine. Since they weren’t shipping Emacs anymore and they had no G5’s to ship, they sent me this one. So, I feel I earned it. (and let that be a lesson to all of you people out there – buy the extended warranty – it got me a brand new iMac Core Duo!)
OH – Sen. / today Hackett made nicey-nice with that Dem., Sherrod Brown, see upthread somewhere. Hackett’s the vet who nearly knocked off Mean Jean Schmidt in a House special election earlier this year/late last year (?). Look for Hackett in 2008.
… yes, it was Hacket and I am very sorry he did not get the support of “our party” …what a loss…as far as what I have in store????…well, step into my web and I’ll show you Punaise…
I EARNED my core duo iMac… because I previously owned the “Edsel of Macs”, an Emac.
Dude (as the kids say), that rocks.
I still have a Mac IIci sitting on the bench, from which I periodically need to harvest some obscure and archaic data. What a pain!
spiderpaws – how about coming attractions for the waning moon?
Jacqrat @ 154
Score – AppleCare works!
You had a new box coming with you having to lug the eMac to Apple 4 times.
radlib1
Need a walk-thru to fix perms?
Looks like I’m not the only one still up.
On Hackett I really hope he tries again. Sorry I wasn’t aware of blogs during his run against mean Jean.
Suzanne, consider the torch handed to you. I’ll be folding shortly.
Jacqrat
Try running XP on it yet?
…just to see if – installed it on my MacBook – looks like Apple will sell some hardware to XP users, despite industry analysis. Fast.
Woohoo! I’ve got the torch at FireDogLake. Of course, I’m only good for a wee bit longer before folding myself.
NewtonUser (I loved Newtons!)
Try running XP on it yet?
NO! I don’t even run Windows Media Player – do the flip4mac thing and run those files on Quicktime.
I am not a big fan of Microsoft products. If you really want to figure something out by my doing it, however, I’ll try.
Now – How do I do it ? :D
Guys, I never said I was GOOD at this computer stuff!
Thank you guys for your suggestions. I’ll try them tomorrow when my brain is a little fresher. I finally got my 17″ flatscreen sawed-off volleyball iMac working (after sitting on my desk as a beautiful piece of sculpture for so long it’s embarrassing) the same day Apple came out with their new line of computers right before the 2004 elections. I went from total Luddite to citizen cyber-warrrior in about 2 weeks. Bush brought me screaming into the 21st century. (I just hope I don’t go out that way.)
Good night and good luck. And thanks again.
Eureka springs, Ar @ 161
Hackett!
Any evidence to suggest Hackett will put up with another ‘Schumering”?
If us ‘rabid’ types were so good, we would have dealt Schumer out before he had time to screw over a really good man in Ohio. I’d really love to see RGJoe beaten badly, but it would be doubly cool to see the DSCC cut down a few notches. No humility at all.
wow. Tom Petty rips (via Esquire via Howie via TalkLeft):
*plouf*
Actually it was discovered that tinfoil doesnt protect you from high frequency signals such as those generated from HAARP in Alaska. It’s better to use a kevlar helmet lined with copper mesh wire. The copper mesh will prevent all signals from entering the brain.
newtonusr – Well since Hackett is still out talking politics one can only hope.) Ohio is probably whimpering over it today. DSCC and lackeys need to wake up and enjoy an occasional daisy
I love Billmon
…why don’t WE run him out of town on a rail?…right over to India where they think he is a PRINCE…yes, in India, astrologers have said that if they had someone with Bush’s chart he would be KING OF INDIA…their astrology is differrent from ours but I read it now and then and it is dead on accurate in its predictions…for the rest of us we are looking at Mercury retrograde til the end of the month…don’t sign anything til the 30th…also it retrograded right back into defensive Cancer where it will contemplate its naval for awhile…this friday will be a good party night leaving serious hangovers…what sort of stuff you looking for Punaise?
punaise
TP is cool. Couple years back, Petty was coming to the SF – broke his arm on tour prior to arrival. Refunded all tickets, bowed and scraped, returned later and performed tons of shows to make amends; bunch of’em were streamed live on KFOG.
You prolly know about that.
Absolutely beautiful full moon tonight, hanging low in the sky, backlighting the redwoods.
‘nite all.
…did I say Friday?…sorry, Saturday is what I meant…starting to lose it so maybe I should call it one l-o-n-g day (and night) and leave the stardust for you younguns…
Eureka Springs, Ar
Been on the internets only sporadically today – did I hear that Hackett did a crying towel deal with Brown today?
Wyo Nate @ 142:
From your link:
‘WTF, over’
- But later,
‘Never mind that bogeyman, check this one out…Scary, kids!’
Oopsie, the mark of an amateur ‘hitman’…Overly negative description of the mark to be vilified…Gets ‘em every time.
Oh, you brute
‘He hit me, and it felt like a kiss’… 2:28.
Which is longer than it took that writer to build his socialist soapbox, I suspect.
Nite, all.
newtonusr – I’m outa here, but see Dover Bitch’s take on the Hackett-Brown kissy-kissy here. The way I see it, Sherrod Brown isn’t terrible, and DeWine is among the worst.
darkblack – That’s still my favorite of your many fine creations. (Nice comment, too.)
‘Nite.
Is Joe using DSCC funds, or DSCC-funded staffers, to collect signatures for his independent run?
Mornin FDL!
Who needs Al Qaeda? We blow up our own buildings (NYC) and collapse our own tunnels (Boston). Are we our own worst enemy?
Good morning, twolf1 and all.
I’m just getting my pot o’ tea brewing, very shaken after reading the Josh-channeling-Kaplan-channeling-Nic-Robertson piece that some of you saw last night.
I keep thinking this is the horror flic to end all horror flics — but it’s not, it’s our lives, and there are many and worse reels to come.
Sorry. I’m really down this morning.
Lotus — sorry you are feeling down this morning. I just read Josh’s post — the situation seems terribly bleak, horrific and sad.
lotus 183 – that is a very disheartening article. very depressing. Does BushCo care? nah, just like the people stranded, starving on their rooftops in NOLA, the violence in Iraq is not of their world. “We must stay the course… heh heh heh”
Yes and thank you, CinCT.
“The situation seems terribly bleak, horrific and sad” not only in Iraq but in Afghanistan (as I follow it in the London Times, here and here), in everything that has Mary’s and our other patriot-lawyers’ hair on fire, in the depredations that Matt O. explains to us, in what the Rovians are up to in CT and elsewhere, in …, in …, in …
I try to stay “up” and generally get it done, but this morning is just too much to climb over.
Lotus, take a look at this site, maybe it’ll cheer you up a little:
http://stuffonmycat.com/
Good morning, gang!
We’re out of coffee, and the store doesn’t open for an hour. I’m winging it here.
Hope all are well.
Haw, twolf1 — maybe if those kitties with the Margaritas would climb outta the pitcher and the glass, I could lick me a few drops off their fur . . . ?
Ooo, tommy without his coffee — the news ain’t turned up YET. Want some of this good strong Irish Breakfast tea, tommy? Han’ me yer mug.
Here ya go. I like a little tea with my sugar and milk.
How’s things, lotus?
How many lumps, tommy?
Things is glum, but now that you and twolf1 wid da kitties are here, I’m lightening up. Thanks, boys.
Wonder if Imm’s stirring yet.
Ah, mornin’ twolf!
Um…four lotus. I can take a lotta lumps.
Listen, if you’re feeling down you officially have my permission to take a day off. Nobody can persevere on a daily basis; implacability is tough. Go buy some clothes, or get a pedicure, or see a movie–whatever you like. We’ll hold down the fort. Perhaps today is “lotus in the world” day.
Lotus, take a look at this site, maybe it’ll cheer you up a little:
Or this.
You know, I almost slipped in four without asking, tommy! I take mine straight, so hope you’ve got some milk (my buttermilk prolly won’t appeal). Anyhow, here you go. Oh, here’s a spoon . . .
“lotus in the world day” gets started around noon, as a matterfack. We’re nigh onto psychic, eh?
lol – rabbits eating weed
Yepper, Eli, that fetched a LOL! Thanks, man.
Eli, did you pull an all-nighter or something? What are YOU doing up at this hour?
Hi tommy, eli.
here’s more photos for Operation Smiling Lotus:
http://www.babyanimalz.com/
Eli, did you pull an all-nighter or something? What are YOU doing up at this hour?
I’m up early. Actually not *that* early for me, but I usually don’t comment before work.
twolf, yer better’n all the Zoloft inna world! That will be hitting my whole address book right away!
Wonder if it’s puppies over at lhp’s yet.
lotus, don’t know. If so, I hope we get to see pictures of the little guys.
Eli, when do you sleep, chile?
She wouldn’t dare hold out on us, twolf. We major in lobbying, after all.
Toobin opining re Jefferson ruling on CNN.
Eli, when do you sleep, chile?
Oh, you know, here & there.
*squirms uneasily, yawns*
lotus – did he say anything new? i have CNN on but it was mentally tuned out ;)
twolf, I was in and out too, not worth a hoot as a reporter. He did finish with a fearless forecast that Jefferson’s indictment odds are about 99.9.
twolf, I was in and out too, not worth a hoot as a reporter. He did finish with a fearless forecast that Jefferson’s indictment odds are about 99.9.
Paging Jason Leopold, Jason Leopold to the white courtesy phone…
Just ran up to the cafe and got a cup, thank jeebus.
thanks for the eTea, lotus. mighty good.
Let’s see what Dana Priest has to say this morning about Rethinking Embattled Tactics in Terror War:
obviously they were banking on the fact that the average US citizen has the attention span shorter than a fruit fly’s life. Whatever happened to building NOLA bigger and better?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories…..0005.shtml
–like in ‘Office Space’, BushCo will do just enough not to get fired. It’s time we call in the Bobs!
You know, thoses yutzes are gonna dick around and end up with some armed and ragin’ Cajuns in their faces.
B Starr on CNN: DoD memo says ALL detainess will now get Art. 3 Geneva protections.
Helen Thomas vs. Tony snow Part XIII
youtube video
Why can’t more of the white house press corps(e) be more like Helen?
detaineEs, including al-Qaeda. Pentagon looking for options to move from Gitmo.
Agnes at 24 re Haynes Senate hearings for the 4th circuit,
I thought Leahy put a hold on this guy. Do I have him confused with another obnoxious judge?
Not finding Starr’s scoop confirmed anywhere else yet . . .
egregious, Leahy DID put a hold on him, I believe.
Okay, here’s FT.com, via Raw Story:
US reverses policy on military detainee protection
Discussion topic: if Mel Brooks were to make a sequel, what might it include?
Hitler On Ice, of course.
(C’mon people. 221 comments and no Hitler On Ice? Yeeesh. :-) )
Good Morning Morning Gang
just now looking at lotus’ link above on the thread, my very first thought is now what are they up to ?!, how will this in some way help them continue their evil shit ?!?
baldheadeddork – see # 21 above – (control f is your friend) welcome to the lake
CBL – they probably want to move the detainees to a more secret location– one that the press hasn’t uncovered yet. then they can once again do what they want.
oh, i forgot, they do anyway
I know, cbl — even when they take it up the wazoo, they’ve taught us to expect another worst-possible move.
lotus,
I hesitate to do this to ya, but this post by Wolcott is a fitting companion piece to the TPM reporting that has you so down – further, the Toledo Blade Pulitzer Series: Tiger Force is swirling around in my head (recommended reading when you’re feeling a little stronger – although yegawd) – Both Cheney AND Rumsfeld were instrumental in suppressing reporting and prosecuting so of course, here we are again
http://jameswolcott.com/archiv…..can_be.php
hi lotus, guys,
B Starr on CNN: DoD memo says ALL detainess will now get Art. 3 Geneva protections
The fact that this has to be spelled out for the government is horrific. When did we get to be the Bad Guy? I guess that’s for future historians, researching our crumbling empire.
What does it take to get a War Crimes Tribunal started over at the Hague?
Mary?
Actually I’m asking Mary, but maybe she can get things started :)
Is it possible the Inquisition is not here to stay, after all?
egregious, I don’t know what it will take, but at least 20-30 defendants (nice round guess) need to go straight from our Executive Branch to the prisoners’ dock in The Hague!
Ahora mismo!
what makes the Mel Brooks “Inquisition” thing so relevant today is that the primary target was Moslems. After the Reconquista by the Christians from the ‘Moors’, an ethnic cleansing had to be done to wipe out all traces of Islamic adherents. Jews had been tolerated under Islamic rule but the oh-so-Christians drove them out of the Catholic Kingdom of Spain.
egregious,
suspect Mark from Ireland has Hague procedural answers on one of his two sites
Pachacutec,
my faith as always is with the American people – they have come around and seen the light – on all but how fundamentally destructive these thugs have been with our way of governing – my only concern is the lag time – will it be too long ? The cycletime of seeing it here and hearing it as CW has shortened dramatically in the last 12 months – but will it be soon enough to stop them from removing the final lynchpins – it is truly my most fervent prayer
NYT’s now running the FT story, but CNN hasn’t said another word about it.
new thread
egregious; here is an Alternet article re: Bush and war crimes
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/38604/
I think Mel Brooks would make John Ashcroft’s “the eagle soared” into a show stopper. I see the use of military props, fallic symbols, and the required chorus line in stelletto heels. I’m sure he’d replicate the abu graib torture costumes as well as babes strutting with dogs like Ann Miller in Easter Parade. Nuns waterboarding would be a must. And let’s not forget the flags. Never forget the flags.