Fitz!

Hey, two zero Fitzes in one day. Apparently that’s kinda cool.

And, needless to say, Go Maxine!

Um, Bobo really thinks *we’re* the ones seeking to expel Joe from “modern liberalism”? He threw himself out that window years ago.

Maxine!

rootz!

What a courageous woman. I hope she’s ready for the swiftboats.

Oh, thank God. So lonely. Just me and Jane. The horror. The… horror.

It sounds like Brooks was going for that old “limousine liberal” schtick again. This ought to shut down that nonsense, at least.

Jane, if you haven’t already, you should check out scarecrow’s post two threads back.

http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ent-180359

Looks like he caught Joe in a teensy little fib about $800 million in savings for electricity customers.

Move over, Eli. *g*

OMG.

Oh Jane, This is awsome news.

Once again, BoBo becomes, among other things, Driftglass fodder…
And the “Out of Iraq” caucus stands up – no surprise there. Look out!
Go Maxine!

BONUS JANE!
God Bless Maxine Waters!
OfT, Jane apologies, I am almost sure you have already seen this, but I thought it was too relevant to even take a chance.
” scarecrow says:
July 8th, 2006 at 8:46 pm

Jane — thanks for linking to the transcript of the debate. Remember the $800 million claim? Well, it’s false. This is what Lieberman said:

But I’ll tell you why I voted for the bill. There were other parts of it, including one that I worked very hard on and lead the way, that resulted in a change in something called Lycap (ph) that the Consumer Council of Connecticut, Mary Healey says, was historic and will save Connecticut electricity customers $800 million. Would you have voted against that?

LICAP stands for Locational installed capacity, but is shorthand for a method to pay electric power plant investors payments in addition to the money they receive from selling electricity in New England. The extra payments are needed because energy prices are artificially capped below the levels that would sustain investments in new plants and investments to keep existing plants operational. Without investments, new plants don’t get built, and older plants break down and must be retired. That creates shortages and possible blackouts, if not corrected. This was particularly a problem in SW Connecticut, where there hadn’t been enough investment in either new plants or transmission lines that could bring power from surplus areas, like Maine.

Connecticut is part of the New England electricity market. An original LICAP proposal from the regional grid operator (ISO-NE) was controversion and had to be approved by federal regulators (FERC). Almost all of New England’s officials opposed the original proposal because it could have raised rates to pay for the new investment. They wrote letters to FERC, and the New England Congressional delegation inserted language in the Energy Bill asking FERC to “carefully consider” the concerns of New England officials wrt to the LICAP payments proposal. As part of its normal procedures, FERC called for negotiations to reach a settlement. The energy bill had almost no effect because it’s language was advisory and only asked FERC to do what it is required to do anyway.

The Settlement, reached a few months ago and now approved by FERC claims that it is less expensive (hence, the claim that it saved $800 million) than the original propoal, but noone honestly believes that is true, when all the costs are taken into account. The costs are simply reallocated to other parts and consumers will still pay. It was a face-saving compromise. Consumers will still pay in the end, and the total cost they will have to pay over time is probably not different from what they would have had to pay over time under the original proposal.

But Lieberman implies that the LICAP settlement/compromise that supposedly saved the illusory $800 million was in the energy bill, or caused by the energy bill that he voted for. It wasn’t. The settlement was worked out between the parties in negotiations under a FERC administrative judge. The Settlement would have occurred under FERC procedures with or without the energy bill. It was reached during the winter of 2005-06. The energy bill was passed well before that.

One more thing: Some Connecticut officials simply wanted to use the energy bill to kill LICAP altogether, not substitute a presumably lower cost alternative. Early energy bill language would have directed FERC to vote againt LICAP, period. If they had gotten their way, there might have been no solution to the investment problem and New England, and Connecticut in particular would have been well on their way to serious shortages — just like California in 2000-01.

So if I knew nothing else about Lieberman, I would vote against him for being irresponsible in handling electricity policy, never mind his bragging about a vote that did little or nothing except fool Connecticut consumers.”

OT
I am a huge proponent of “the debt” paying, (or at least owning up to it), the descendents of the slaves the present value of what their ancestors never received.
Politically it would be suicide for Democrats to embrace that in 2006, but imo it is a moral priority. International courts forced German and Swiss banks to repay the descendents of Jewish, Polish, and Russian slaves who Hitler enslaved, so there is precedent.

Seriously, I guess if she were at all fainthearted, she wouldn’t be heading up the Out of Iraq caucus. If Lieberman smears her too badly, maybe Murtha can come in and help out.

I won’t hurt you, Eli. I promise.

Well maybe just a little bit ;)

Maxine Waters status as a politician from a minority group should help Lamont. I also notice that his TV commercials feature a good number of black and latino citizens, not just a token few.

Oh my. This is *way* different from Eschaton…

neurophius – Good idea and Fiengold.

If Lieberman smears her too badly, maybe Murtha can come in and help out.

Don’t tease me.

Russ!

Murtha and Lieberman. One on one. Steel cage death match.

Murtha!

…wasn’t Maxine one of the few who stood up and demanded an investigation when Gore’s election got stolen? She ’s got guts that’s for sure…people around here have a lot of respect for her…

Feingold is good, but Murtha is probably the closest thing we have to McCain right now in terms of No-Bullshit, Standup-Guy mythology (not necessarily maverickness, although he is well to the right of most Dems, as I understand – which would make opposition to Joe even more significant).

Sorry, “mythology” was a poor choice of words. I was fishing for something conveying “Official Media Image”, whether true or not (in McCain’s case, “Not”).

“As a first-term representative, she gained fame by walking into the Oval Office and telling then-President George H.W. Bush, ‘Your time is up.’ Waters co-chaired the 1992 presidential campaign of Bill Clinton.”

Wikipedia.

spiderpaws – That was Maxine. Murtha would eat Joe for lunch imo. House members in a Senate fight hmm.

Dang, neuro. She has big brass ones.

Eli –

Remember my EPU prayer a while back?

Here’s the deal: Atrios is a great blogger, a true iron man of our cause.

However, his threads have a signal to noise ratio approaching zero. Meaning, they are all snarky banter, and serious discussions are drowned out by the noise.

Not that there is anything wrong with snarky banter — but at FDL, it is only one part of what happens in threads. Sometimes a large part, but rarely the whole enchilada.

capiche?

Neurophius 6 — Maxine Waters gets smeared every day, and Malkin is at the head of that line. It may not be the most satisfying aspect of this story that it will chap anchor baby’s ass when Waters shows up, but then again, it just may.

I’m not worried about Maxine. She can handle herself. Holy Joe can preen about his civil rights marches in the 60s, but David Horowitz can brag that he used to be a liberal, too. Let’s see Lieberman try to peddle his anti-affirmative action (recent) past to Connecticut voters now.

God, BoBo is really asking for it:

“What’s happening to Lieberman can only be described as a liberal inquisition,” writes Brooks. “Whether you agree with him or not, he is transparently the most kind-hearted and well-intentioned of men. But over the past few years he has been subjected to a vituperation campaign that only experts in moral manias and mob psychology are really fit to explain.”

“I can’t reproduce the typical assaults that have been directed at him over the Internet, because they are so laced with profanity and ugliness, but they are ginned up by ideological masseurs who salve their followers’ psychic wounds by arousing their rage at objects of mutual hate,” Brooks adds.

Wow, he’s all lathered up.

I was just going to ask, is there a way to say that without sounding sexist?

Spiderpaws @ 22,

You are correct. I was wondering where all the other patriots were at the time, Democrat, Republican, or otherwise. She was one of the few who spoke out when our country was stolen.

IMO, scarecrow’s find could be a cornerstone to the remainder of the campaign. It gives Ned the chance to mention HoJo in the same breadth with Ken Lay, Jeff Skilling, and Enron. scarecrow’s find is a commercial featuring a clip of HoJo uttering those words and then explaining in lay terms why he is wrong.

Ned’s campaign might want to pay scarecrow as a consultant to help them craft the first drafts of their message. The sooner Ned can get this out, the better.

Perhaps best of all it gives the New England Press something else to hammer HoJo about. That might lead to another meltdown.

scarecrow ROCKS!!!!!!!!

Tick. Tock.

ck, I’m aware of all that, believe me.

Although, ironically, I was referring to the host’s bantering with her commenters, which is very rare at Eschaton.

I can just imagine that the way Joenertia sees it, he marched for her civil rights in the 60s so now she owes him big time and should stay the hell out. Um, that was 40 years ago, Joe. What have you done for her lately?

meta 30 — yeah I think Bobo sounds just a wee bit overly dramatic, don’t you? His self-righteous indignation against bloggers might have more do with the salvos launched against him in the past and not so much Holy Joe.

WATB.

(and before anyone asks, 1) “Whiny-Ass Titty Baby” or 2) “Whining About the Blogosphere,” take your pick.)

Bobo:

“a viscious–venomous–vituperation campaign!”

I was wondering why I hadn’t heard of the “Out of Iraq Caucus” before. Did a google search of that phrase, and found only one mention in the MSM, which was an editorial by Peter Beinart of TNR. You can pretty well guess what that said. It seems to be hard to get the MSM’s attention.

John Casper – I will settle for a permanent removal of the single issue war bs.

Brooks is clearly losing it. FUCK YOU, DAVID. Vitupetate that, you jackass.

Cujo 39 — It seems to be hard to get the MSM’s attention.

I think they may get it now.

He he.

John Casper:

“The sooner Ned can get this out, the better.”

ATTAAAAAACK!!!

We should send BoBo some pearls to clutch, fucking bedwetter.

I’m still hung up on “moral manias”…….???????

meta:

Throwing pearls before whines?

Punaise! We need you!

It’s astonishing that someone pays Brooks to type and opine. His non-talent is on display week after week in prime real estate, while anything that Digby (and Tristero) or Billmon puts out is enjoyed only by those of us in the blogosphere …

And of course, the volume and diversity of quality digital ink commentary at FDL goes without saying … (okay, well, I just said it.)

The top spot at C&L right now is Brooks saying:
“Because in my conversations –we’re talking about the netsroots [sic], who are the real problems for Lieberman, people generated by the Daily Kos and other web sites– I find privately most of the Democrats despise those people because of the way they practice politics so viciously that they don’t want to get in the crosshairs.”

Sounds like the content of his column, which is tucked away behind the NYT firewall.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..-netroots/

neurophius 45 — Pearls before whines?

I’m using that one.

Ah Jane – news of Maxine heading for Connecticut is too cool for words. Except to say ole Joe will rue the day he provoked such a fearless and articulate California Democratic Congresswoman.

has turned liberalism from a philosophy into a secular religion

As an omniscient evil parallel universe I get a lot of props, and awards, for my, well, omniscience, if not my charming personality.

But here I am lost. I realize THAT statement is SUPPOSED to make the speaker SOUND erudite, even witty.

What the fuck is the SUPPOSED DIFFERENCE between a philosophy and a secular religion?

If you remove the godhead from any non-secular religion* (and yes I was biting my tongue as I typed “non-secular religion”) it becomes, by definition, secular and therefor a “philosophy.”

Will someone please ask the moron what exactly is the difference? And, assuming that he has an answer, which is the biggest assumption here, why a secular religion is somehow bad?

And while you’re at it, ask him why he hates religion so much to try to use it to defame, secular or no.

_____________________________________
The oxymoronic possibilities of secular religion are boundless, but I’m lettin’ it pass for now.

re·li·gion
n.

Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

sec·u·lar
adj.
Worldly rather than spiritual.
Not specifically relating to religion or to a religious body: secular music.
Relating to or advocating secularism.

Eli, don’t get us started on crazy ass McCain.

Respectful Dissent @ 10:48 pm (#46) – Sounds like Brooks’ brain fart from The NewsHour Friday.

Umm, yes, it’s both.

Sending encouraging e-mail to Maxine.
Here is her e-mail page
http://www.house.gov/waters/IMA/issue.htm

Eli, don’t get us started on crazy ass McCain.

Okay, we’ll save it for ‘08. Or maybe ‘07.

neo, you are cracking me up.

Maxine is not a poseur. She has the huevos and she will not back down.

ck – you pray for EPU and I appear, although I have said before that I do NOT have a god complex – it would be hypocritical for a non-believing universe such as myself to have one.

I googled Ned Lamont on the evening of the debate and received these hits:

EVENING OF THE LAMONT DEBATE:
WEB HITS Results 1 – 10 of about 2,110,000 for Ned Lamont
NEWS HITS Results 1 – 10 of about 1,310 for Ned Lamont.

TONIGHT
WEB HITS Results 1 – 10 of about 2,370,000 for ned lamont
NEWS HITS Results 1 – 10 of about 1,610 for ned lamont

Oh this is good. Waters’ credentials as both a campaign street fighter and as a left-liberal are impeccable.

Some people go to the hockey game and cheer for Team A. Some cheer for Team B. I cheer for blood on the ice. Just wish I were in CT in a way, since down here in MD the races are not as vicious at least yet, i.e. who gets a chance to wallop Michael Steele’s ass, which of the two brawlers out of Ehrlich and O’Malley will throw the last punch.

ck – you pray for EPU and I appear, although I have said before that I do NOT have a god complex – it would be hypocritical for a non-believing universe such as myself to have one.

So… does this mean that praying to you would constitute a secular religion?

Evil Parallel Universe @ 10:51 pm (#49) – When was liberalism ever not a secular philosophy that many people believed in deeply? Does this mean that conservatism is just something people do because they’re not in church, or the supermarket, for that matter?

Yep. That’s our Bobo.

Anne Holliday 10:50 p.m.

“such a fearless and articulate California Democratic Congresswoman.”

I wonder what the Waters/Boxer dynamics are?

I find privately most of the Democrats despise those people because of the way they practice politics so viciously that they don’t want to get in the crosshairs.”

Get out of the way asshole.It isn’t swiftboating because it’s the truth.Sounds to me like someone doesn’t enjoy taking the same shit we’ve been dished out.

Jane –

Are you ready to give the lil’ Debbie treatment to lil’ BoBo?

I mean, it’s like a hanging curveball for Barry Bonds . . .

There’s a quote, maybe from a year ago, from someone who encountered Bobo in Aspen. Brooksie is short, and was wearing a yellow shirt — they said he looked like an Easter Egg.

Mr McBoBo — tom tomorrow

http://www.workingforchange.co…..emid=18470

goodnite all.

Eli – I’m cool with it so long as you consider EPUism a philosophy – sorta like Buddhism accept with more violence and a louder soundtrack.

EPU –

Yeah, but you’ve never answered the question, as to which universe is evil — this one, or the parallel.

Yeah, but you’ve never answered the question, as to which universe is evil — this one, or the parallel.

Which one has the mustache?

ck – That is the point grasshopper – it is for you to answer for yourself – and yeah, it is a trick question.

OT: Hey, Bustedknuckles, I found this article this morning about the Cantwell/McGavick race. Looks like Maria’s been screwing up right on schedule.

Her lead’s down to 4%, 16% undecided. The only saving grace is that most folks don’t know anything about McGavick yet.

Someone please tell me why they call him Bobo?

When I was about 3, I had an inflatable clown doll taller than I was, in the shape of a bowling pin, with a round red nose that squeaked when you punched it…

…and I seem to have a clear picture of Maxine standing up trying to say something about the election and Gore himself had to gavel her down…it was very sad… I turned it off and had a good cry…seems like a hundred years ago when we were young and innocent and had a budget surplus…

And his name was Bobo

Bustedknucks, exactly. These guys are total enablers with the swiftboating crew but wilt under the white hot glare of the leftosphere. We haven’t even suited up!

So, can Maxine… mmmm…. talk to Barbara Boxer and set her straight?

Someone please tell me why they call him Bobo?

I believe his signature book was called “Bobos In Paradise”. I think it was short for “Bohemian Bourgeousie” or some such nonsense.

EPU, you can turn up the sound anytime you want.

-ck- @ 10:57 pm (#62) – it’s like a hanging curveball for Barry Bonds

Thanks to his prequel on The NewsHour, it’s like a hanging curveball where the pitcher says “Hey, Barry – watch this hanging curve”.

Cujo,
I wonder if , maybe, her Alito vote might be coming back to bite her.Jeez. I even fragged her for that one. Lovely form letter reply for my trouble. WTF ya gonna do? McGavick is poison.

Yes, Congresswoman Maxine Waters’s constituents — and those who might influence her elsewise — should ask her to … um… speak with Senator Boxer.

Hurray for Maxine Waters !

-ck- Are you suggesting Jane is on steroids?

spiderpaws 72 — yep I was right there cryin’ with ya.

-ck- Are you suggesting Jane is on steroids?

JANE SMASH!!!

This is excellent news about Maxine campaigning for Ned. Wanna bet she finds a venue larger than a bar in Stamford?

Given how fast the threads move at FDL, I thought it worth noting that Kevin Cate, Rick Penberthy’s campaign manager, returned to Howie’s earlier thread to thank all who participated. He wrote his comment at 1:15am Florida time….just another sleepless night in the life of a congressional campaign manager.

If you missed the thread, or just won the lottery, please read it at http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..#comments.

Howie’s ActBlue page is http://www.actblue.com/page/downwithtyranny#9045.

FWIW, just $159 will put us over $2,000 raised for another Fighting Dem.

“Wanna bet she finds a venue larger than a bar in Stamford?”

She should show up at that bar in Stamford just to smack down Sen. PearlyWhites.

Eli @ 11:03 pm (#66) – Which one has the mustache?

I think that’s a goatee. Spock?

Okay, you can find Brooks’ latest column in toto at The Peking Duck (another fine blog, I might add!):

http://www.pekingduck.org/archives/003882.php

Upon reading it, my reaction is that it’s also a “genial”, “reasonable” attack on Ned. Naturally, Left Blogostan will focus on Brooks’ hackery, his defense of Lieberman, his awful attempts to turn a phrase, but note what he’s really doing: he’s trying to set the conventional wisdom for all the affluent Democratic voters in CT who don’t read the blogosphere but get the NYT Sunday Edition home-delivered:

“Lieberman’s opponent, Ned Lamont, has neither expertise in foreign affairs nor any specific knowledge of Iraq, and he has struggled to come up with a plan for what we should now do there. “

“Ned Lamont is a strange vessel for all this passion. Based on the candidate debate Thursday night, he seems a genial if under-prepared politician who would be an innocuous presence in the Senate if he were elected to it.”

So besides his paean to bipartisan Joe, Brooks is also taking all the passion Ned’s inspired, and turn him into milquetoast. Hmmm.

I think that’s a goatee. Spock?

I think you’re right. I was just thinking facial hair, and it’s getting kinda late…

To Joe Biden, “ROOTZ!” has an entirely different meaning…

spiderpaws @ 70
I disliked Bush, Cheney, et al intensely. Then, that spectacle in the House Chamber – Gore officiating his own demise with the CBC protesting that not one Senator would step up. I imagined the bastards drinking champagne and smoking Romeo & Juliets, and imagining the $$$. Dislike turned to something more… profound. What a slap to our Republic!

“Lieberman’s opponent, Ned Lamont, has neither expertise in foreign affairs nor any specific knowledge of Iraq, and he has struggled to come up with a plan for what we should now do there. “

Had Enough?

“So besides his paean to bipartisan Joe, Brooks is also taking all the passion Ned’s inspired, and turn him into milquetoast.”

So is Brooks the New York Times equivilent of a “concern troll”?

OT: Bustednuckles @ 11:08 pm (#77) – Not much you can do, I suppose. It’s a train wreck. It’s in slow motion, but if you get in the middle of it you just get squashed anyway. With all that work she did at Real, you’d think she’d understand about product differentiation. When people don’t see much of a difference between the two main products, they look for something else.

Respectful Dissent, from Bobo: “Lieberman’s opponent, Ned Lamont, has neither expertise in foreign affairs nor any specific knowledge of Iraq, and he has struggled to come up with a plan for what we should now do there. “

That never stopped him from singing the praises of W.

Maxine the vaccine

So is Brooks the New York Times equivilent of a “concern troll”?

Maybe more like Ann Althouse. He pretends to be oh-so-objective, just regretfully laying out the facts, and pointing out how in so many ways the Republicans and Democrats are mirror images of each other, but always in ways in which the Democrats are the ones who suck. I can’t stand that smarmy little creep. “Transparently the most kind-hearted and well-intentioned of men”, my ass.

Cujo.
I don’t want to hijack the thread but, Can’t well is the next Lieberman.

Eli @ 11:12 pm (#66) – Of course, it could be the one where Carter has the really frightful hair, but that wasn’t facial hair.

…whoa… Maxine in lily white Connecticut…this I gotta see…

I don’t want to hijack the thread but, Can’t well is the next Lieberman.

Bob Casey Jr.

“Lieberman’s opponent, Ned Lamont, has neither expertise in foreign affairs nor any specific knowledge of Iraq”

Yes, but Ned has never sold his soul to the Devil, so he can look at the situation with a clear head and steady vision, unlike Joenertia, who is all tangled up in knots of self-justification.

in French, a “bobo” is an owie

“maman, j’ai au petit bobo sur le genou. ca fait maaaaaaal…”

(Mommy, I have a little owie on my knee. it huuuuuuurts…)

Eli @ 11:12 pm (#66) – Of course, it could be the one where Carter has the really frightful hair, but that wasn’t facial hair.

Carter? I’m blanking, and picturing Jimmy in something like a Carrot Top wig…

“maman, j’ai au petit bobo sur le genou. ca fait maaaaaaal…”

Especially if you get just the right part of Bobo on your knee…

channeling Dylan, Joe is “tangled up in boo”-hoo

OT:Bustednuckles @ 11:17 pm (#95) Can’t well is the next Lieberman.

Could be, but I kinda hope her commupence is in the election after this one.

Could be, but I kinda hope her commupence is in the election after this one.

…in the primary.

Ah, Punaise. Did you hear me calling you at 10:47 p.m.?

…not that long ago I heard someone there (Connecticut) call african americans “negroes”…she’ll do well tho, she’s got the stuff

spiderpaws

Uncle Remus in Connecticut?

(does anybody get that besides me?)

I like the idea of Maxine going to Connecticut.
Maybe show some folks Boxer and crew don’t have an exclusive.And to have some actual talking points? Whoo Hoo!

Eli @ 11:19 pm (#101) – Sorry, different show. Carter’s the cute blonde one.

Now I wonder if that’s too many links for so little text…

neuro – no, wasn’t lurking, just ducking in briefly.

And Maxine Waters isn’t alone. The populist Democrat running against Louisiana kook Bobby Jindhal (LA-01) put out a powerfully-worded warning to the fake Democrats who have announced they will support Lieberman even if he loses August 8. Stacey Tallitsch calls out Schumer and Obama. Wow! I hope this guy wins a seat!

typo alert: “maman, j’ai un petit bobo”

And the Mad Rabbi (and once more I ask for my graphic – you know who you are – and yeah, for my birthday I am asking for omnipotence) has expertise in foriegn affairs and knowledge of Iraq? And that “expertise” has proved so valuable because the war is going so peachy?

Whoever said that needs to be called on it: Prove the Mad Rabbi is an foreign affairs expert with “knowledge” (whatever that is) of Iraq – and I’m demanding pictures for proof – no testimonials from TEAM LOSER.

Eli @ 11:21 pm (#105) – That would be OK, except neither Democratic challenger seems to have what it takes to run a successful campaign. Like I said, this things lookin’ like a train wreck.

Pretty good Punaise after last night. I think maybe two late nights in a row might be a little much for my old self.BTW, How’s Nonpuss this evening? Still non plussed?

Carter’s the cute blonde one.

Ah, Stargate. I’ve barely watched that at all since the first season.

That would be OK, except neither Democratic challenger seems to have what it takes to run a successful campaign. Like I said, this things lookin’ like a train wreck.

Well, you were talking about next election – maybe someone with a clue will emerge for that one. Hopefully the roots will be much, much stronger and influentialer in 2012.

The prize for the best new word of the day goes to Eli

for “influentialer”

Maybe that is the next title Bush will give himself:

“The Influentialer”

Maybe that is the next title Bush will give himself:

“The Influentialer”

If the Dems retake Congress, he can call himself “The Lamer”.

Infleuentialrin’ is hard work.

Dear Lord, what have I done?

Well, I can’t wait to hear Maxine Waters speak some truth in Connecticut. Good night, all.

Eli, Thank your lucky stars Punaise seems to be preoccupied. *g*

Howie- thanks for posting this link- http://downwithtyranny.blogspo…..idate.html

a must read from Howie, and a must read from Tallitsch, who said:

George W. Bush has been measured and found to be inadequate… We must win the elections of 2006 to start the most deeply needed series of investigations ever held in America. They will make Watergate look like a parking ticket. Join me in the fight to hold these people responsible for their actions.

Well, I can’t wait to hear Maxine Waters speak some truth in Connecticut. Good night, all.

I don’t suppose we can hope for her to walk into Joe’s office and tell him his time’s up?

Eli, Thank your lucky stars Punaise seems to be preoccupied. *g*

You all should. He might set me off.

Howie @ 112
I see some $$$ headed his way. Thanks.

OT: Eli @ 11:29 pm (#117) – Stargate’s not as good as it was, that’s for sure. I really liked the first three seasons, though, and it’s intermittently good now.

Eli, It’s all in fun. No animosity involved.

I recently wrote to a national columnist about something he published, and actually got a reply back (!). I won’t name names, but I pointed him to some favorite blog writers; he wrote back and said something to the effect that the worst thing about the blogosphere was the pissing contests between the Left and Right.

Ahem.

What bugs me the most about Big National Columnists is that no one calls them to account on their own turf. The Blogosphere rips them to pieces (a la Atrios’ “One Friedman = 6 months” or our ire at Bobo here), but they are truly unaccountable for the crap they write and the mistakes they make. Millions? or at least 100,000’s will read Brooks sounding “reasonable” today and will absorb it, and they won’t be reading FDL where people will point out the gigantic logical fallacies …

The “pissing contests” that Big National Columnist was talking about usually turn out to be the Mighty Wurlitzer making a fact- or logic-free claim and the Left mobilizing coherent, logical and/or snarky arguments to demolish it. I wish every Big National Columnist had a scorecard at the bottom, tallying up how often they’d actually been accurate about what they predicted or op-whined for …

Eli, It’s all in fun. No animosity involved.

I think you may have misunderstood what I meant by “set me off”…

Cujo, did the decline in quality happen to coincide with the jump to Sci-Fi, by any chance? I’m still kinda bitter about them running Lexx into the ground…

Oh, A ‘Punaise-a-thon’.The feller was up late last night at a batchelor party.He might be curled up with the cat with no name.

Eyes on the prize guys

click here
http://downwithtyranny.blogspo…..idate.html

CT is hardly “lily-white” — 77.5% only. Blacks=9.1% and Latinos=9.4%

Oh, A ‘Punaise-a-thon’.

Yeah, that’d be it. I was in some pretty epic pun wars at Eschaton, but I think that sort of thing is kinda frowned on here. Although maybe the night shift is a bit… looser.

Speaking of curled up, It’s my turn. Y’all have a good one.We’ll see what’s up in the morning. Night.

Just moved from Jane Harman’s district to Maxine Waters’s.

Thank God. The air is so much cleaner here.

And Maxine will tattoo Joe’s ass big-time in Connecticut. She’s the real, feisty deal.

OT: Eli @ 11:43 pm (#134) – I think the first decline was in the fourth season, which had to do with priorities of Showtime and/or MGM. That was what I call the “girls n guns” period. They seemed to think they needed the adolescent male moron demographic. The next decline was in the eighth, I thought, which had something to do with their not being sure what to do about Richard Dean Anderson (O’Neill), who was not able to work on the show full time.

The series moved to SciFi prior to season six, I believe.

Lexx was a show I never really got, but I only saw it on SciFi.

I can’t believe you guys couldn’t come up with the Pun-ic Wars. You are unarmed.

Howie Klein @ 11:27 pm (#112) – Are you going to put Tallitsch on the DownWithTyranny list at ActBlue?

Neurophius — Senator Pearly Whites is getting used, too.

And yes, Bobo frequently plays the role of mega concern troll.

Lexx was a show I never really got, but I only saw it on SciFi.

I thought the first four movie-length episodes, back when it was Tales From A Parallel Universe, were pretty damn cool. Interesting guest stars, too: Barry Bostwick (as a dashing rebel leader), Tim Curry, Rutger Hauer, and Malcolm McDowell. I liked it on Sci-Fi until they got bogged down on the Fire & Water planets.

I can’t believe you guys couldn’t come up with the Pun-ic Wars. You are unarmed.

How about the Pelepunnesian War?

Howie Klein 112 — that was an AWESOME discussion today on Blue America. What a gem of a column that’s turned out to be, eh?

Eli – A little late, don’t y’think?

“I wish every Big National Columnist had a scorecard at the bottom, tallying up how often they’d actually been accurate about what they predicted or op-whined for”
Bullsye IMHO.
Consumer Reports for the political writers at the NYT’s, WaPo, Time, Newsweek,????

Maybe Kos, Atrios, Jane, Christy, and others could rank them once a year.

I was thrilled to see so many good comments at FDL today blasting the TM. IMHO, that’s the most sensitive pressure point. Repeating myself, when Feingold called for censure, he said, “ofcourse, we should wiretap terrorists.”
TM printed, “Feingold against the War on Terror.”
IMO that’s why so many Dems are running towards Lieberman and Bush, they simply lost all traction in the TM.

Evil Parallel Universe @ 11:52 pm (#142) – The Puninsular War?

“I am going to thoroughly enjoy watching Maxine Waters come to Connecticut on behalf of Ned and show a patronizing old gasbag like Brooks how it’s done. “

AMEN! I love Maxine — she is fearless. Oh, I wish JOE would get in her face. But no, she is going to Connecticut. Joe won’t be there.

Well that explains a lot. Bobo acts like a troll and gets treated like one.

radlib1 – Hope you will contact Maxine about a CT trip. Don’t think my e-mail went through with an honest zip code.

Eureka Springs, AR
Big props to you at 10:53 for posting Maxine’s email. I gotta write her a “thank you” tomorrow.

Shell @ 11:59 pm (#150) – Oh, I wish JOE would get in her face. But no, she is going to Connecticut. Joe won’t be there

Cruel, but well deserved.

YW not to sure it works though.

ck- 62

Brooksie is not only short, he has teeny tiny hands, which I noticed only because he talks with them pretty much all the time when on the News Hour.

Whew! I think that’s the first time I haven’t written McNeil-Lehrer report.

After I hit send e-mail an auto response ” cannot reply to your zip” so I hope her office still gets it.

…ilson #137: yes, but those blacks and latinos ALL live in two lil’ neighborhoods in East Hartford…

That’s pretty standard. A lot of them don’t reply outside their district, but I bet someone still reads it. That’s my uninformed response.
Maybe I will copy Ned on whatever I send her?

The Black Caucus has been great on all the issues that matter: the war, Katrina, poverty, constitutional rights, internal spying. They are a bright spot in the Democrat party.

“ghetto lowlifes”
To whom are you referring?

Count me among the ginned up ghetto lowlifes, then.

Speaking of concern trolls, looks like we’ve got a live one.

…and the rest of CT is lily white…Dems who want change know who Maxine is and will roll out the carpet is my guess…Lookin’ at Neds chart (no I don’t have the birth time, no one does – yet) he’s going to need the likes of Maxine when they start to smear him in the fall…

FWIW, the correct protocol for Congresscritters to deal with communications from outside their district is to forward the matter to the Congresscritter representing the writer …

Speaking of concern trolls, looks like we’ve got a live one.

From the neck down, anyway…

Hey I am a Hillbilly lowlife, may I play?

Ghetto lowlife reporting.

You really think she’s going to stir up the ghetto folk in Greenwich and Darian? I don’t think they’ll interrupt their golf games and tea parties for Maxine.

Jakester @ 12:10 am (#164) – Please cite an example of Ms. Waters talking about a “racist conspiracy theory” or saying that gangsters are good members of society. And please note that, in contrast to your usual audience, most of us understand english, so you may want to be on solid ground.

…oops, looks like we have a ghetto lowlife (ginned up too) among us…Jakester, better leave quietly and sleep it off…

Oh yes, calling black people “ghetto lowlifes” is very civil and genteel, and not at all Rushlike…

Thanks *ilson, I didn’t know that.

Sorry, I guess I’m just too closeminded and dogmatic to believe that someone who talks about ghetto lowlifes, racist conspiracies, criminals, and gangsters is not a stone cold racist.

I know, it’s tragic and unfair, but that’s life in the fever swamp.

delurking…

159 –

Uh…ghetto lowlifes?

pafuckingthetic.

hijack! do not feed.

I owned a store in a “ghetto” for many years and you are a crock there Jakester.

call people who brag about their criminal behavior then complain about police racism ghetto lowlifes.

And this is a sizable percentage of the CT black population, you’re saying? Otherwise why would the ghetto lowlife vote be worth ginning up?

Sorry, Teddy. I usually don’t, I guess I was just surprised to see one slip through the shields. Done now.

Mod please.
Welcome Johnny Drama – just in time for the Jakester Malkin-Coulter show.

…well, Jakester…you sound exactly like the lily white boys I remember in the “inner city” in CT…racist to the core…c’mon now, spit it all out…

(I do wonder what Jakester was in jail for, tho…)

snake bite no doubt.

sorry for the delays in moderation — us Boiz in the Hood wuz havin slow tubez on our Internetz tonite…

Johnny Drama @ 12:17 am (#178) – pafuckingthetic.

There really should be a literacy test before you’re allowed to use a computer.

pathetic

Thank you *ilson.

…states WOMAN, dahling…

Cujo – There should be a literacy test before they allow you to be a teacher.

Think of all the practical jokes these Polish Prime Minister and President twins can play on the Chimp! I want a State Dinner for them NOW!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00992.html

Brooks: “Whether you agree with him or not, he is transparently the most kind-hearted and well-intentioned of men.”

Gee, thanks, Mr. Brooks! Since we all know the one about where the road paved with “good intentions” leads, I take it you’re coming around to our view of what the occupation of Iraq is like?

Uh, although you might get some vapors…I’ll say a hearty “Go fuck yourself jakester!”

That is all.

Jakester @ 12:22 am (#186) – I don’t see anything there about conspiracies or gangsters. English speakers here, remember?

Jakester,

If you’ve got a link to something about Maxine, please leave it, I’ll check it in the morning.

I’m going to ask you nicely to try and show a little respect for people whose ancestors were bludgeoned, murdered, denied access to education, and voting rights by Jim Crow laws and other institutional vehicles of white supremacy. All this happened while they built large chunks of this country and didn’t get paid. Oh yeah, they also got raped by their master and when they got pregnant had to carry the child to term, because a slave was valuable property before 1865.

Numeracy and literacy are cumulative. It matters how many generations you have, because the physiology of the brain actually changes. When you deny anybody education, it takes them generations to catch up. Prior to 1865, it was against the law for African Americans to go to school in the south. In 1920, there were four (4) high schools in the state of Florida that admitted non-whites, of either gender. As I am sure you are aware, the absence of education in our society is a great predictor of substance abuse, joblessness, mental illness, and incarceration.

Once you ponder those facts you might want to revisit phrases such as “ghetto lowlifes.”

…jus cause you had a few bad experiences no need to paint the whole race Jakester…you need to improve your view a bit, get OUT in the world…

Once you ponder those facts you might want to revisit phrases such as “ghetto lowlifes.”

I have a feeling he’s going to revisit them again and again, actually…

Well, damn. After all that work to get a T-shirt with “Flying Squeaking Venomous Rabid Lamb” on it, I have to start over. I don’t know if I can find a big enough shirt for all the extra words, though. Maybe I can just put “Profane Maniacal Ugly and Ginned Up By Massage” on the back. I’ll have to ask BoBo to explain that last bit, though. I thought massage was supposed to be relaxing. It’s a puzzlement.

In the meantime, I hope Ned’s folks are planning a commercial with all those Republicans endorsing HoJo on TV. Ben Ginsberg added himself to the list, which should help flavor the stew given his involvement in the Florida recount and the Swift Boat Veterans for Sliming Kerry.

Jakester – Omniscience be damned, I got it, we’re playing charades.

Clint Eastwood/Harry Callahan impersonation: Dirty Harry.

I hate charades. But a universes need to win made me play.

Fuck off.

Johnny Drama – I gots to say that that is a GREAT nom de blog.

Wow. I don’t even *need* to respond. He’s doing all the work for me.

Evil Parallel Universe @ 12:25 am (#192) – Yes, that probably would improve some school districts. I think what’s really needed among teachers is cultural literacy – a common understanding of the things that we as a society need to know. There was a great book on the subject a few years ago, and then the created an Dictionary of Cultural Literacy. Wonderful book.

FWIW, Sister Maxine is on CSpan right now … ooops, now its Ginny Brown-Waite —- from the sublime to the ridiculous, I guess

EPU- gracias.

HBO Entourage name. Kevin Dillon’s character.

Go Ned!

Hello late nighters. Just got back from seeing “A Scanner Darkly.” I’m a huge fan of Philip K. Dick and I was a little aprehensive about it. But it was excellent. Very true to the book and Robert Downey Jr. was outstanding.

Go see it (after you see “An Inconvenient Truth” and “Who Killed the Electric Car?”)

Being acultural, since all my “culture” comes from cartoons, I have to disagree.

I’m trying to resist writing about David Brooks’ logical errors simply because, in the immortal words of Charles P. Pierce “Oh, Lord, did you have to make the fish so big and the barrel so small?”, but…

I find privately most of the Democrats despise those people because of the way they practice politics so viciously that they don’t want to get in the crosshairs.

Well, David, in that case your friend Joe has nothing to worry about. You see “those people,” while they make you clutch your pearls with their mean words (so unlike your nice conservative friends who say people who disagree with them are traitors and should be executed), are largely not Connecticut residents and cannot vote in the primary. If “most of the Democrats” actually despise and disagree with the netroots, then Joe should coast to victory.

Anyone think David will print a mea culpa if that doesn’t happen?

John Casper – You got a nice nod on Marys thread http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ent-180633

OT

Weird Newsweek article about Bush=WWilson.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13773307/site/newsweek/

The Maltese Falcon, 1931
Spectacularly bad, the first incarnation and just finished on TCM.
Private eye Sam Spade (Ricardo Cortez) encounters sundry characters (Bebe Daniels, Dudley Digges), all seeking a coveted statuette.
Give me 1941 anytime!

One more Boboism, then I’ll stop before it rots my brain. I just wanted to mention that he appears to be jumping on the Ann Coulter bandwagon with the bizarre “secular religion” concept.

Or maybe it’s just plagiarism…

Don’t be fooled by the troll. If he speaks of “ghetto lowlifes,” you can be sure HE is one. And racist to boot. I can just see him — pasty white, uneducated, and if he works at all, it is at Burger King.

And also don’t be suckered by these stereotypes. Connecticut has plenty of blacks and poor folks. (Actually, since Bush stole office, more poor folks than ever.)

Every time I hear of a “rich state” I laugh. Yes, you only get photos of fat old white men playing golf. And they actually get away with such lies.

…well off to the hill for some stargazing…the temperature here is nearly 80* so sleep will be impossible, not that I do any of that anyway…

Weird Newsweek article about Bush=WWilson.

“Bush appears to have an emotional intelligence and self-mastery that failed Wilson at crucial moments.” What the.

They finally have it on YouTube.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hy2…..rch=shayla

Never say I didn’t provide you all with a little culture, nekulturny evil parallel universe that I am.

Redshift @ 12:38 am (#214) – In one form or another, that idea’s been around for a while. Trust me, Ann Coulter didn’t come up with it. It was all the rage a few years ago to assert that science and atheism are both religions. So, it was only a matter of time before they moved onto other things they didn’t know shit about.

So, it was only a matter of time before they moved onto other things they didn’t know shit about.

Talk about an unlimited resource…

Plus, Amanda Tapping (i.e. Samantha Carter) and Debbie Harry have a certain resemblance, so I’m tying all the threads together.

“…an emotional intelligence and self-mastery…”
A little help EPU!

Shell @ 12:40 am (#215) – since Bush stole office, more poor folks than ever.

Yes, the Bush Administration’s been doing a good job of making the poor feel like they’re not alone.

John Casper at 194 — er, you got a reference for that cumulative literacy and numeracy stuff? ‘Cause I’m afraid it sounds pretty fishy to me. Sure, learning changes the physiology of the brain, but I don’t see how that could be cumulative over generations; you can’t inherit those physiological changes.

Just because…great song…funky vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW_hSNHZiBc

Evil Parallel Universe @ 12:41 am (#221) – Careful, there. This thing might collapse in on itself and we’ll have Tapping singing “Heart Of Glass” on Proof Positive in a duet with Leonard Nimoy.

Cujo359 at 215: Well, I was familiar with the “evolution is a religion” BS. I wasn’t so much thinking Coulter had invented it, I was just struck by Bobo latching onto it after she’s been on a book tour about it. It may be that it’s not a new thing with him, but I can’t recall him using it before (not that I’ve paid close attention, though.)

it’s indeed possible Brooks was dazzled by the profundity of Coulter’s philosophical arguments about religion & secularism that he had to pay a subtle homage to his intellectual superior ?

Redshift @ 12:48 am (#227) – I’ve never felt compelled to study the epistymological history of David Brooks, either. It seems like there are many possible places he could have picked this up.

*ilson46201 @ 12:51 am (#228) – subtle homage to his intellectual better

Was one of your dogs in Bobo’s office? Oh, Coulter …. Never mind.

Newtonuser – Always go to the source. What the fuck does emotional intelligence mean? I have no clue – and neither do they – see my rant on Mastur Bullshitters and Bullshitting. They think it SOUNDS like it has some deep and powerful meaning that resonates with readers, who will be too awed or cowed to call them on it. As for self mastery, I think that it means Chimpy is potty trained, or that he has more self mastery than Wilson who as we all know suffered a debilitating stroke and didn’t have much self mastery of anything after, but again, we really should ask the author.

Even more importantly, who the fuck compares anyone or anything to Wilson – its obscurantism at its best (or worse, either way works) since only someone who supposedly really knows their preznit would compare Chimpy to a preznit no one remembers. I’m surprised he didn’t use Washington as the comparison – not really.

Words are supposed to mean something, not simply take up space in a newspaper or magazine for some asshole to make ridiculous and ludicrous comparisons.

Redshift, I apologize, I don’t.
What I also don’t have a link to is a stat I saw that supports it. It’s rare for children of parents who were illiterate to graduate from high school. It happens, but it’s rare.

I also know there’s evidence about the physiological changes in the brain when humans make the transition into languages that have a formal grammar, but I don’t have a link for that either.

You know me, I like to link to something. I don’t make a habit of asking people to take my word for things and I am not going to start now.
I feel pretty confident about the “cumulative” part of it, but confidence is not a link.
Now I really am going to bed.

‘Night all. I’m likely to be out canvassing tomorrow, so I’ll see ya in the evening, maybe.

Just a quick note and I’m off to bed. It’s really disorienting to see a lot of comments responding to a troll whose posts were deleted by the *izard *ilson. Like coming in to a movie halfway through and wondering what everyone is talking about. Future historians of blogtopia (Skippy invented this word) will have their work cut out for them. G’night, all. Oh, and I hope Maxine brings John Conyers and Charlie Rangel with her.

EPU & newtonusr – while I’m not entirely sure what “emotional intelligence” or “self-mastery” mean either, I think I have enough of a general sense of them to say that I can’t think of a single president in American history with less of either.

It’s really disorienting to see a lot of comments responding to a troll whose posts were deleted by the *izard *ilson. Like coming in to a movie halfway through and wondering what everyone is talking about.

*ilson has my express permission to delete my responses if he so chooses.

And since going to bed seems to be the “in” thing to do right now, I think I’ll jump on that bandwagon in hopes of being cool.

‘night John Casper and Redshift.

The online dictionary gives us this definition:

Main Entry: emotional intelligence
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: an awareness of and ability to manage emotions and create motivation.

Isn’t that also know as being alive? I am on to something with Wilson’s stroke.

it’s too much work to delete the responses to the troll … besides, I’m quite proud of the way you-all recoiled in horror … good folk here !

Yes, it’s about time for me to wander off, too. Thanks all, and if it’s too confusing, go ahead and delete my responses to what’s his name the troll, too. I thought he was kinda funny, in a mean, stupid, and totally obnoxious way.

In case anyone is interested, here’s an MP3 of Bobo and Shields talking about Lieberman and Lamont (7:06 into the clip) on the News Hour.

Spider paws at 22

Sooo right on……

…to me that was the most amazing footage in F911.

I never saw that on the vile flashing box…(tv)

Here were these impassioned people in the Right(truth) Maxine, and here was the actual Victor(Gore).

Maxine impassionately pleading for ONE senator to stand with her.

Al following the rules Honorably forced too…..

That is one scene that should be played for every American

instead of the vapid flash of tabood sex, violence and fear the vile box transmits.

Epic and Tragic.

Yet hope is with each dawn :)

I missed whatever the troll said, but the freepers make very little distinction between Maxine Waters and Cynthia McKinney. Expect the Liebertrolls to make the case that her presence is hurting Lamont. Maybe Bobo will even write a column along those lines.

“Emotional intelligence.” Is that a fancy way to say one thinks with ones gut? Bush does do a lot of that guttural deciderin’. He’s got a pretty bad stutter, too.

Heavens, I wsn’t suggesting you delete them, *ilson. Just noting that it’s confusing. If I hadn’t been away from my screen, I’d have jumped all over Cheetoh-breath myself. You are an altogether splendid *izard, the very model of a modern major moderator. And with that, it really is bedtime. See you tomorrow.

me 2. night BB.

Is there anyone left alive here?

Guess not-bye.

If anyone has the e-mail for roots project I would appreciate some link love. Will check back later on.
Night all.

JC says:
It matters how many generations you have, because the physiology of the brain actually changes. When you deny anybody education, it takes them generations to catch up.

With all due respect, and though I agree with your general sentiment, my reading the part about “the physiology of the brain actually changes” made me wonder what extactly you are talking about. Sounds kind of Lamarckian to me, the way you put it. From someone who doesn’t really understand science or nervous system development. Each generation does have a new chance.

Max!

To the max, baby!

‘Nobody expects the Liberal Inquisition…Not even Professor Conflate.’

;>)

Maxine Waters is a LIVING GODDESS.

I’m sending her a love letter, right now. It’s amazing I haven’t ever got around to doing so before. She was so GREAT during the 2000 electoral college election protest.

Good Morning, my friends and how is your coffee? I’m having a lovely cup of French Press Sumatra and getting ready to head out to work. I’m leaving the paper on the coffee table, there’s an good editorial you should check out. I’m a little amazed it’s in the WaPo; maybe the universe had a little nudge last night.

Make it a good one, I’ll see you later.

Namaste
zen

ps Thinking of HopeSprings and BC and their families.

Eureka, you can email Pachacutec at

Well, that was strange, it chopped my comment.

Let’s try again

Eureka, you can get on Roots Project mail by sending a note with Roots Project in the subject line plus your state, I think to him via geemail dot com and he will put you on the mailing list.

Eureka — I just tuned in for one last look before heading off to Nod. I took your sage advice and sent an e-mail to my wonderful and feisty Rep, Ms. Waters. I had to make a subject choice and finally decided to submit in under “Education” since neither “Iraq War” nor “NO to JOE” were listed as possibilities.

Dear Honorable Congresswoman Waters,

I saw on Firedoglake that you are going to Connecticut to help educate the voters there. That’s great. I am so proud of you and your continuing fight for the soul of our country and the Democratic Party.

Go, Maxine!

Go, Ned!

booman does a great smackdown on brooks/rg joe here:

http://www.boomantribune.com/s…..2145/11474

I was just thinking whether Lamont is doing enough with black voters (he evidently has the Jews), and this is going to help him. There is no love for Holy Joe among CT blacks.

Good morning everbody!

zennurse, I loves me some Sumatra too. It gives a liberal that extra hand-wringing and tree-hugging energy!

Good Morning, Littermates of all shades!

I know I’m asking for moderation here, but . . .

Happy Birthday to my favorite one-year-old!

Don’t miss the video timeline, and you can help me watch his celebration today here, here, and/or here.

The Black community was and is quite opposed to the War on Iraq — Holy Joe’s continued bellicose stand never garnered him support amongst African-Americans …

we need to stop using the term “acts like a republican”

joe IS a republican siohining off democrat resources

I think he should be tossed from the party before the prinary

JWR @ 238: There are a lot of CT voters that Maxine can make a powerful case to, black voters and tuned-in progressives. Who the hell is Joe Biden going to speak to? He’s probably going to hijack the fundraiser for himself.

Somewhere upthread someone asked what Maxine’s pull is in CA politics… she’s a powerhouse. The first time I saw Maxine was at the CA Dem Convention, in a room where Sen. Feinstein was holding court… but when Maxine walked in the room, everyone talking with Dianne just turned around.

Rep. Waters has enormous clout here across every group and caucus in the party. Nobody fucks with Maxine, and if she really comes to CT for Ned, it’ll make Sen. Boxer rethink her visit to Joe more than any rowdy bunch of bloggers, easy.

Matt – Biden will most likely be speaking to 7-11 and Dunkin Donut owners ;)

and all will be listening for the pacing and intonation of his carefully nuanced pronunciation …

zennurse-I love my french press. It makes better coffee than my new percolator I got for Christmas. I used to have a really old heavy percolator that made great coffee but it broke last year:(

Speaking of coffee– I have become addicted to this:
http://www.ravensbrew.com/wolf.html
no, I don’t work for them. not only is it awesome coffee but the artwork on their bags is cool.

twolf, that’s awesome :)

Anyone want to start up a “Convenience Store Owners for Lamont” group to push-back against Biden’s visit? I could help, but all the ones I know in CT are Syrian…

I doubt if Lieberman has a large following in the Syrian-emigre community …

Too bad that bush’s babysitters wouldn’t dare let him use “the influentialer” in public but it sure would be fun to see how badly he would mangle it.
Talcott @237: That scene in F911 is what I remember vividly & I was stunned that I hadn’t seen it on the boob tube at the time either. It was excruciatingly painful to see. That one heartbreaking clip clearly demonstrates what went so wrong in this country…too few people standing up for what is right & speaking truth.
Those attacking grassroots progressive blogs are such hypocrites..no surprise there..funny how they don’t scrutinize, dissect & criticize the tactics of rightwing mass mailings, politicing in churches, & so on.

Listening to MTP talk on NK, I’m wondering if Kim Jong Il is just pissy because he hasn’t been invited to play air guitar with Bushie.

On a more serious note, Syriana. Wow. Pach mentioned last night that he watched it. We did here as well. And woke up still thinking about it. Powerful indictment of the biz-controlled world and how vulnerable it is. Would love to see a thread on this film sometime.

Now to sit back with the morning paper and some Caribou Coffee fresh-ground and watch for Christy’s bird….

new thread ! —- it’s Sunday !

You know what’d be awesome? If Ned got on board the Constitutional Right to Vote movement, and say that he’d stand up for democracy where Sen. Lieberman chose to sit down and allow the election to be stolen.

Remember, one Senator was all that was needed, and Joe just let it slide. In 2004, it was Boxer who signed on to the Tubbs-Jones petition. Rep Waters is a cosponsor to Jesse Jackson’s Right to Vote amendment, and it’d be one hell of a way to draw a bright line as to who’ll fight for the Democrats — with Ned, Maxine, and Boxer on one side, and Joe alone on the other.

When Our Miss Brooks refers to Liberalism as a “secular religion” it’s indicative of the fact that the racket known as religion is nothing more than a authoritarian tool.

Brooks’fear of Kos is particularly hilarious. Love to see the two of them in a a debate. Kos would reduce him to jello without even trying. He’s TERRIFIED of Liberalism.

Real shitting-in-his-pants terror too.

*snoopy dance* I have almost nothing to say, but Go Maxine! Go Ned! *more snoopy dance*

I think Bush was right with the whole “when they stand up, we’ll stand down”, he just had the wrong country.

All over this country, people are standing up and making the incumbents sit down.

Dig it.

the people are coming…the people are coming

What galls me even more than a repo who wears a corporate suit is the guileless servitude liberal blogs give to anything with a liberal tag on it.
It’s tantamount to those “buy american” reprobates purchasing shit made in China while Clinton trumpeted NAFTA. When will people realize the two-party system in this country is a duopoly crime syndicate, and not even a black woman (who takes perks, trust me) who plays the game is going to change that.

some of us caught on long ago …

[Moderator Note]—Mark got a little more excited than necessary about where some people might put some things.

HI, Just happened to look in this morning. Hooray, Maxine Waters! However, Evil Parallel Universe at #49, throw out your dictionary when attempting to define religion: otherwise you throw out Zen, Confucianism, Vedanta Hinduism, etc. Also, the problem with the icky quote, which you rightly object to, is that it begins with a dualistic assumption of sacred/secular. That assumption is just cultural bias. Thanks.

Maxine Waters is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I have ever met in my life !

So is Markos . . .

The U.S. O-Pun

DAMN! Maxine Waters is gonna campaign for Ned??? Wow, this is freakin’ awesome! This is great for the Lamont campaign. Maxine is super smart, super tough, and she knows how to GOTV, too. Yay! *joins mui in snoopy dance*

bob h —

But, but … Brooks says there are NO blacks in Connecticut. Mostly uber-rich white men (who, of course, vote for Democrats). Wrong? LOL

Mark –

So you GOT it years ago? What has changed? Seems to me it is worse.

THINK, imbecile, THINK. Right now, the Dem party is all we have. AFTER things get back to relative normalcy (read: the Bush cabal is indicted), then we can get other parties. Until then? You are just a whiner. So, sit in your corner, keep voting for Nader, and leave the workers alone.

And NO, I will not forget. But we have to do it in a logical order.

Shell—for future reference, there are very few rules for commenting at FDL but one of them is that insulting other commenters is frowned upon.

From reading your other excellent comments, its quite apparent you can make your point without resorting to name calling.

What is up with you folks?. You don’t like black comments or something?

I have tried many times to write and you have blocked me

This is wrong

Maxine Waters spends much of her time on important issues that others will leave alone:

1) Protesting the stolen Presidential Elections of 2000 and 2004.

2) Out of Iraq caucus

3) Rescuing Aristide when the US Marine kidnapped him and took him to the Central African Republic. Maxine jumped on a plane, went to the CAR, and brought him back to the US or Jamaica (I forget which) for his own safety.

4) Constantly drumming up support for impeaching Bush and his cabinet. She isn’t afraid of the “I” word.

We are lucky to have her in Congress along with the Democratic Black Caucus.

is obscurantism a religion…

But, but … Brooks says there are NO blacks in Connecticut. Mostly uber-rich white men (who, of course, vote for Democrats). Wrong? LOL
Brooks should have checked the census statistics, particularly on New Haven, Bridgport and Hartford. There are voters among us in the wee big towns of CT!

Blacks and Latinos are approximately 20% of the CT population — both of those groups have not been supportive of Bush/Liebermans War on Iraq !