
God must like me, because he keeps sending the stupid people. Yesterday, Ann Althouse. Today, Moses Whine and his Barbara Bushian delicate ears, who doesn't iike it when Bush's Favorite Democrat is referred to as Rape Gurney Joe:
This is the kind of political thinking that is so primitive it's hard to honor it with the word "thinking" at all. In her blindness, Firedoglike also employs language like "fucking" and so forth to make her points.
Sorry to soil your beatiful mind, Roger. For the record, my name is listed at the top of the post. "Firedoglake" is a website that at last count has some 30 people writing for it with varying degrees of frequency. It's not a "her." It's a rather simple distinction.
Evidently Lieberman has defended the post-rape policies of Catholic hospitals, which this blogger (FDL) finds anathema. Now I don't know where Lieberman really stands on this issue in detail.
But that won't stop Pajamas Media scam artist and Wingnut Welfare Queen Simon from commenting on the situation, will it?
Here, let me help him out:
When asked about the decision of Catholic hospitals to not dispense Plan B contraceptives, even to victims of rape, Lieberman replied, "Hospitals that refuse to give contraceptives to rape victims for 'principled reasons' shouldn't be forced to do so…In Connecticut, it shouldn't take more than a short ride to get to another hospital”.
Evidently using the "f" bomb is much, much worse than telling rape victims to get up off a hospital gurney (hence the expression "Rape Gurney Joe"), regardless of condition, and take what is sure to be a "short ride" (a myth ably dispelled by Connecticut Bob) if they want to prevent being impregnated by their rapists. Yes, I can see why Moses Whine left that little detail out of his post.
He then takes a truly bizarre detour into the New York Tunnel plot to come to the conclusion that the Democrats have dug themselves a deep hole because we are Not All Joe Lieberman (another Simon fantasy). But that is, after all, the chief complaint here, isn't it? Simon is one of those former lefty apostates who decided to chuck every principle he ever had and hitch his wagon to the NeoCon war wagon, and it's all going down the shitter. I think TBogg sums up my feelings on Simon pretty well:
Now I may not be as "emotionally or morally sophisticated" as Roger L Simon, but then I didn't spend the afternoon of 9/11 flushing away my beliefs and convictions in a piddle-stained panic. So please spare me the "cojones" and "cowardice" locker room speech from the man who is one car backfire away from turning into a fedora floating in a puddle of pee.
You wanna run into the arms of the big strong steely-eyed rocket man? Be my guest. But when he picks your pocket, steals you car and leaves you high and dry in some cheap motel near Waco, don't come crying to me.
Is it any wonder Simon is soiling himself when he reads a few four-letter words? Tisk-tisk. Politics is ugly, and the right wing thuggery that Simon has never had any problem with doesn't seem to be providing him with as much cover as he'd like these days for his safe, cloistered little hothouse fantasies about the world.
Are the wilting violets on the right going to make it this easy?
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Roots! Fitz! Jane!
Did I miss you on the radio?
Fuck that fucking fuck in his fucking you know what!
Well I’m peeing my pants.
But only from laughter. I love how you pull this together, Jane. And TBogg is excellent.
Yes, it’s far worse to use the word fuck than to admit how badly you’ve been screwed.
Poor simple Simon.
With a splintered post!
Ken Lay Screaming in Hell
http://kenlayscreaminginhell.blogspot.com/
Now, if the Internet was a truck, then you could refer to it as “she.” But it’s a series of tubes!
(Fucking tubes!)
Ken Lay is sipping a Pina Colada on the sands of Bora Bora.
As long as they wilt I don’t care. They have nothing to cling to, except control issues and direct consequences of their own failed approach towards domination and denial. Fuck ‘em.
Jane,
I feel certain it is not the language you used, it was the message you sent.
(”…[S]he doesn’t mind the language, it’s the BEATIN’ she don’t need.” - Squeeze - “Cool For Cats”)
ROOTZ!
Jane, don’t let these WATB’s get you down. They’re providing their Pavlovian response to
LiebenstraumI mean Lieberman’s whining about being called Rape Gurney Joe (an apt name) is to go for the jugular of the blogger drawing unanted attention to their favorite DINO.I’m always quoting Stephen Sondheim too Jane.
Nice Post.
God, Jane - you paint the best word pictures.
Anyone one know if they say fuck in any of these lameass movies?
http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d.....amp;cf=gen
Dover Bitch @ 7
Someone must have sat Ted Stevens down and made him watch Brazil and told him this is how teh Internets work. It’s a series of tubes!
One of the reasons I enjoy FDL is its coloquialness - you all write how my friends, coworkers and I speak. Although words are powerful, I think people who allow themselves to be so upset by a series of letters have some other personal issues they need to address.
Also, I see no rage evident in calling him Rape-Gurney Joe. It’s just a funny nickname…like Pee-Wee or something.
thank you, Roger Simon, for getting the meme “Rape Guerney Joe” out to a wider audience — and getting Lieberman’s assinine attitude toward women far more attention than it would probably recieve otherwise…
TBogg:
“Well, I’ve always said the hardest part of self-martyrdom is getting that last nail in.”
HA!
It’s true.
Nice girls don’t call important men names, especially when the men are so gracious as to allow other girls who’ve allowed themselves to get raped a chance to get off scotfree, if they make a little effort.
Heaven knows, we’ve all heard about those wicked girls who tease men and then after they’ve had their fun, cry rape.
Girls should be thanking Senator Joe “For Life” Lieberman for all his efforts on their behalf.
Thanks for doing all your work with Ned. We owe you big time.
Makes me wonder if Roger had those issues when he used to read Ana Marie Cox when she was Wonkette.
when is Ana Thema going to do a guest post?
Ken Lay is TRULY a rotting corpse with no ethics.
In her blindness, Firedoglike also employs language like “fucking” and so forth to make her points.
I laughed my ass of when I read that.
Conservatives really are uncomfortable with any sexual references, aren’t they?
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I would rather the liberal blogs go easy on the language, at least in writing. It DOES set off that knee-jerk who-will-think-of-the-children response. I know I know, swearing is fun — I myself cuss like a rap star (sailors and pirates are now PG-13). But from a practical standpoint it doesn’t accomplish much. If you (general you) give the new members an easy excuse to run off, it’s no wonder that there’s only the choir left to preach to.
It must be relaxing to be a wingnut welfare pundit, where it’s okay to write “I don’t know where Lieberman stands” rather than take five minutes with Google to find out. But I guess when your audience just wants to be told that what they already believe is right and true, there’s not much point in presenting actual information.
(Oh, and if I may do minor blogwhoring, I have a diary up at Kos about the preznit’s vacation plans.)
On behalf of those FDL’ers in the tri-state area, I was wondering what would be the best use of our free time to help Ned Lamont win the primary.
Jane, do you have any suggestions?
Is there a particular website that provides this information or should we just call the Lamont headquarters?
For those of us from NJ or NY, would it be better for us to go to CT and knock on doors or make calls from our home state?
I look forward to hearing any recommendations that you may have as to how we can best serve the cause.
Thanks again for all that you are achieving in CT.
In her blindness, Firedoglike also employs language like “fucking” and so forth to make her points.
Being an old mechanic, I could certainly make the delicate flowers cry for mommy.As for “her blindness”, i think maybe the fat head needs to go through some of the archives here. The Jane Hamsher of the left is one of the most forward thinking people I could list on one hand. Lastly, condescendingly calling Jane by the namre of her Blog is lazy,insulting and ridiculous.
Gawd, I am so slow. I get it now, it’s the words in life that count, those pesky ugly words that make you moral or immoral, a hick or a sophisticate - stupid me I kept focusing on peoples’ ACTIONS before I prounced to the streets whether a person was moral or not. Now I get why Lynn Cheney said John Edwards WORDS made him not a good man.
I hope Roger’s delicate sensibilities can withstand the assault of finding out that his name means (ahem) “to have sexual intercourse” in Merry Old England.
FDL is a pretty big choir. Everybody sing!
shrinking violets opera
WXYZ @ 26
Visit the Ned Lamont site, and here is a link to their Get Involved page:
http://nedlamont.com/page/s/now
last year, CNN was doing a live report from Iraq by an embedded reporter out in the boonies … explosions were heard and in the background on the air you could hear a Marine clearly shout “Fuck! We’ve got fucking incoming! Fuckety-fuckety-fuck!” A truly great moment in broadcasting …
Oh, because a few little four letter words are *sooo* much worse than the rape and pilliaging of our country, as well as Iraq, happening under the Bush admin, aided and abetted by useful idiots like Lieberdweeb.
When did I fall down the rabbit hole?
Moses and Roger may prefer Rummy’s Good Graciouses, we’d prefer to have the thousands of lives he’s squandered back — ya pays yer money, ya picks yer obscenity.
I checked Eschaton and I’m gonna beat Atrios to it;
roger l. ‘theguywhowrotemoseswhine’ simon is a WATB.
FCUK!
last year, CNN was doing a live report from Iraq by an embedded reporter
*ilson, You made that up, tisk.
On the topic of obscenity, Jane, how’s Droney’s little of this morning going down around there?
Nice try, oxide. Wingnuts have multiple kneejerk ways to avoid addressing actual arguments, a lack of profanity wouldn’t make them listen, it would just make them switch to an alternate tactic. And anyone who’s looking for an “excuse to run off” isn’t one of the kind of stalwart who’s accomplished so much here. (Doesn’t accomplish much? Please.)
I have some sympathy for those who are uncomfortable with profanity, since I don’t tend to use it myself, but strong challenges sometimes call for strong language, and FDL isn’t for everyone. The wonderful thing about the massive decentralized blogging press is that if you don’t like the way things are done here, you can find somewhere else more to your liking. But the way our hostesses and their cohorts have consistently rejected the notion that they should be required to cater to anyone’s taste but their own, and they have been damn effective.
Lest we forget one of the greatest broadcast historical moments, may I refer to the day in New Orleans when the Unknown Hero told Dick Cheney to go fuck himself live on CNN just after Katrina hit.
Didn’t darth cheney say fuck, once?
Firedoglike Simon– nice typodung!
hahahahahaha
remember Foghat’s homage to Slow Ride Joe?:
Slowride, take it easy
Slowride, take it easy
Slowride, take it easy
I’m in the ‘hood
The crime was not all right
Move to the sound of traffic
You can roll all night
I fuckin swear I fuckin typed in fuckin mot fuckin between fuckin “little” and fuckin “of”! Fuck!
I called Boxer’s Sacramento office and confirmed that she will, indeed, be campaigning for RGJ in CT. I am most disappointed. I mentioned a few of the lies that Joe told during the debate last night and his petulance. The staffer I talked to seemed genuinely concerned. I wonder how many of us contacted her boss today?
fuckette about it
“FCUK!”
When I saw that plastered all over London a few years back I thoght it was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen! (Ad campaign for French Connection clothes)
Here’s a commenter at Roger L. Simon’s blog. Note that Simon never removed the post as “abusive”:
I say, fuck the L.A. Times - shill for the Hollywood corporate culture. Fuck the California Democratic party - the political equivalent of Detriot in the 1970’s (”sell ‘em shit - what else are they gonna buy!?!”) Fuck the Cal Repub. party - no wait, they will probably fuck themselves anyway.
But most of all, a triple fuck-you to every single person who called the recall “anti-democratic”.
Posted by Californio @ 10/03/2003 10:38 AM PST
Now THAT’S some “non-primitive thinking” right there!
#38,
No he didn’t.
“Vaffanculo” ~ some guy called Scalia
~~~
http://atrios.blogspot.com/200.....chive.html
As one of the “liberal priesthood” that Roger worries about, let me just say that Joe did a fine job of tarnishing his image all by himself. All we did around here was take notice, and point it out to others.
Oh, and harking back to our discussion earlier about religion and science and how one reads the Bible, there are some choice turns of phrase in the original Greek and Hebrew of the Bible that might make poor Roger blush. Generally, though, some sensitive translators saved him the embarrassment.
Still, a book with all those prostitutes and fornicators and concubines . . . better not let Roger near it. He might get the vapours.
I actually like the idea (regardless of it idiotic inception) that Firedoglake is a female blogger.
It is kinda like Tony Curtis at the end of Spartacus:
“I am Firedoglake!”
“No, I am Firedoglake!”
these assholes and their fake pearl clutching just astonish me. well, not really.
gollys, heavens to betsy and land o’ goshen, mr bush is not a very good president, is he?
that better, war crime lovin jerkoffs?
can I get a “heavens to murgatroyd”?
#50 it was a funny.
IMHO: The trick with them is to say things like ****, and ****, and **** and **********, and ******, and *** (and several others you can think of) without spelling that way -preferably doing the spelling over three or four sentences with ornate grammar and high toned vocabularly, and suitably muted evocative emotiblaviation –or maybe taking a longish paragraph to spell. If Jane Hamsher prefers to use just one word and spell them out, well, OK. It’s one of those arguments over which kind of high toned writing one prefers. So, what’s the diff? There’s also the difference between spewing ******* and calling it, but that is for another post, it seems. As for my masking the words, it doesn’t matter since there are now dozens of bad words the other side uses all the time but will not spell out, for fear of being indelicate. So plug in whatever happens to come into your head.
and surely some old-timers here still chuckle over that popular song “If you see Kaye, tell her I still love her …” Junior high school kids giggled over it for months …
That “fuckety-fuckety-fuck” really had style, too.
moeman, yep and so did his little lamb Mary.
Bustedknuckles @ 27
“Lastly, condescendingly calling Jane by the namre of her Blog is lazy,insulting and ridiculous.”
And not even getting the name of the blog right!
I’ve been reading all day, and no time to comment, trying to catch up. What a fabulous blog FDL is. Poor Mr. Simon, he doesn’t know what that hole in his heart is longing for. If only he’d take a little spin on this side of the universe, maybe he’d see things a whole new way.
I’m hopin’ the RudePundit really reams rankled roger.
The (fucking) traditional media’s narrative, already being trotted out, is to substitute Jane for Kos as the philistine leader of the uncivil hoardes rising from the fever swamp. A cult of personality, with a convenient, discreet “leader” as target–easier than the more amorphous DKos community.
We saw it this morning when a troll linked to some piece about Jane’s speeding and poodles and how the Lamont campaign should be ashamed! Now it’s her seasoned language. Cue pearl clutching and the fainting couch.
It is what it is. They’ll try to get some traction out of it–difficult, I would think, since they’ve already branded the blogroots as a harmless collection of cranks and wankers.
At some point they’re going to have to suck on it. Fuck ‘em.
It is not surprising that profanity offends Republicans. The have a view of themselves of wrapped in righteousness and purity while both hands are busy picking your pockets.
LOL -
He didn’t manage to pick up on who wrote the thread (despite the name — yeah, those PJ kids have NOOOOOOOOO idea about WHO might have writtent the post *g*)
AND
He hasn’t bothered to figure out Joe’s position - but he KNOWS that rape gurney Joe is a reference to tail gunner McCarthy.
This really needs to go back under the the “fact” discussions in the 2nd earlier thread. As a humorous aside.
My favorite joke for an 8 year old?
What worD begins with F and ends with UCK?
FIRETRUCK!
Are the wilting violets on the right going to make it this easy?
Well, yes and no. To writers like you, worshipping at the false altar of “facts”, it seems quite easy to refute idiots like this. But remember, “facts” have a known liberal bias.
Like the Catholic Church, the Neocon agenda requires its followers to believe in things that can’t be rationally possible.
If you can’t convince them with logic, I say go with obscenities and harsh sarcasm.
Thanks, Jane, your snark is fucking great.
You are also collecting some delicious wingnut given monikers:
“Columbo”
“Jane Hamshers of the left”
“Firedoglike” (is that like a firedog?)
Am I missing any?
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FWIW, imo it’s primarily the responsibility of Roman Catholics in CT to pressure the Diocese of Bridgeport.
IMHO, it is the Roman Catholics who are the core of the rapists rights supporters. I know that a lot of non-Catholics are pro rapists rights, but they are in Xtian denominations that do not have as centralized a power structure as the Roman Catholic Church, so imo, the RC Church is the best pressure point before August 8! JMO here.
HoJo wants Democrats for Leaverman. I want Roman Catholics for Ned! They don’t have to be from CT!
OT, need some FDL scientists to help out here with the Science behind what the Roman Catholic Church calls “Natural Family Planning.”
I think the science behind “Natural Family Planning” is IDENTICAL to the science behind rape contraception. Both depend on preventing the fertilized egg from attaching, that’s how they both prevent pregnancy. The only difference is that the NFP relies on taking the woman’s temperature to determine when attachment WILL NOT occur. That’s how couples know it’s “safe.”
Yes, AFAIK, the Roman Catholic Church, encourages the identical technology in Natural Family Planning that they outlaw in rape contraception.
The problem is, I am not sure of my science, nor do I have the resources to check it out authoritatively. IMO, this is a job for NARAL and PP. They should have been all over this, because there are Roman Catholics in other states besides CT who vote. If anyone does, PP and NARAL have the scientific and media resources and mandate to ATTACK the Roman Catholic Church for its hypocrisy.
OT, to get made a Roman Catholic Bishop, there are four basic litmus tests. The pope has to trust that you will only ordain one gender and it always has to me men. The pope has to trust that you will absolutely never cave on abortion from conception forward. The pope has to trust that you will absolutely never get caught having sex with a boy. The pope has to trust that you will never question his infallibility.
END OF RANT WARNING
I’d call dumbass Roger PajamaMan, except it would be insulting to my kids favorite computer game. Sticks and stones, a-hole.
orangejumpsuit — reminds me of my primary complaint about prosecutors in Miami in the ’80’s — they would gleefully put away some poor street kid for possession of two grams of coke, while they had a half ounce in their pocket to celebrate afterwards….
Why is it that the most easily frightened are also the most easily offended? Do they both have something to do with being a chickenshit? Just askin’.
OT and aside — Jane, I guess I’m slow on the uptake, not news there- but I learned from idly checking on your bio at HuffPo that you were the producer of Natural Born Killers. So, am I right in assuming you knew my dear old friend Richard Rutowski? I’m sure you did and I wonder if you’ve heard from him.
Sorry about the unusual capitalization….my pinky loves the caps lock key.
my pinky loves the caps lock key.
Then why doesn’t it marry it?
imman 74 - bc it’s more fun to fornicap.
It’s Joe’s shocking lack of sensitivity on the issue of rape. Here’s a woman just arrived at a hospital after being raped. She’s in some kind of horrible mental condition. Tender loving care is the most important element of the situation.
Instead, the doctor says “Sorry, can’t help you, you’ll have to drive another 30 miles. Good luck.”
It’s fucking sub-human.
I see lots of new commenters here.
Welcome all.
We might swear a little here, but we honestly give a shit.
As for the dipshit few who make their living lying and perpetuating others fears, Fuck ‘em.
Totally OT - but spurred on by Curious @ #8 -Any chance of a post about the initial report that the death of Ken Lay was a suicide and within about 15-20 minutes it became a heart attack? And was it a heart attack brought on by a gunshot to the head and being weighted down in a river? I’d love to see some conspiracy theory spinning to lighten my afternoon-before-vacation-week.
Mary — HA!
Gotta catch the train, later –
I know I’m late with the youtube link, but check this kid out.
I’d almost forgotten Columbo. It’s my favorite.
Osho, one of the great teachers of our time, had a wonderfully freeing take on the word “fuck”. Here is his response to a question posed by a devotee:
BELOVED MASTER,
I FEEL SHOCKED WHEN YOU USE THE WORD ‘FUCK’.
WHAT TO DO?
Sargamo, it is one of the most beautiful words.
The English language should be proud of it.
I don’t think any other language has such a beautiful word.
One Tom from California has done some great research on it. I think he must be the famous Tom of Tom, Dick and Harry fame.
He says: One of the most interesting words in the English language today is the word ‘fuck’.
It is one magical word: just by its sound it can describe pain, pleasure, hate and love.
In language it falls into many grammatical categories.
It can be used as a verb, both transitive (John fucked Mary) and intransitive (Mary was fucked by John), and as a noun (Mary is a fine fuck).
It can be used as an adjective (Mary is fucking beautiful).
As you can see there are not many words with the versatility of ‘fuck’. Besides the sexual meaning, there are also the following uses:
Fraud: I got fucked at the used car lot.
Ignorance: Fucked if I know.
Trouble: I guess I am fucked now!
Aggression: Fuck you!
Displeasure: What the fuck is going on here?
Difficulty: I can’t understand this fucking job.
Incompetence: He is a fuck-off.
Suspicion: What the fuck are you doing?
Enjoyment: I had a fucking good time.
Request: Get the fuck out of here!
Hostility: I am going to knock your fucking head off!
Greeting: How the fuck are you?
Apathy: Who gives a fuck?
Innovation: Get a bigger fucking hammer.
Surprise: Fuck! You scared the shit out of me!
Anxiety: Today is really fucked. And it is very healthy too.
If every morning you do it as a Transcendental Meditation — just when you get up, the first thing, repeat the mantra “Fuck you!” five times — it clears the throat.
That’s how I keep my throat clear!
Enough for today.
Has Firedoglake had her tubes tied?
OT- Wonder if ken lay screamed fuck! before offing himself. Also, it’ll be interesting to see if the crazy ass racist bitch malkin will slag the sh!t out of kennyboy’s suicide.
the troll this morning who was whining about Jane’s driving was posting from a military IP address located near a certain place where Valerie whats-her-name supposedly jockeyed desks …
In her blindness, Firedoglike also employs..
Aww, ain’t that cute. Sorta like the way Bush referred to the “internets.” Except you know that Simon did it on purpose. First, to demonstrate his “innocent” ignorance to his brain dead readers, and second, (and most importantly), to avoid taking Jane on directly.
Let me think for a minute……………I know - Like such primitives as Vice president of the USA Dick Cheny on the floor of the senate who is all about F-bomb this and F-bomb You senator. Or maybe he’s too young to have actually listened or read the transcripts of the Nixon tapes or actually walked around in public in the Mid-West where I am from. Or been to a Sporting event aanywhere in the last ten years. Fucking Loser.
Wonder if he’s just offended because it’s a woman using “naughty”language?
Starcane @ 48
This is for you.
Well, I can tell you that the language here is far preferable to the crap I see on wingnut sites.
Xenophobia, hatred, ad hominem racist bs plastered everywhere.
mutha-FLICKR
Apparently, this guy thinks the word “fucking” is dirty, or nasty, or evil, or something.
And Rape Gurney Joe’s position on emergency contraception isnt?
Talk about a guy that needs to get laid, I mean “fucked”
I will gladly give up all four-letter words when the “polite” folks stop torturing, murdering and raping innocents. No problem.
punaise 55 - i’ll see your “heavens to murgatroyd” and raise you an “exit stage left!”
I was raised and have lived in relative conservatism, but this surprised me:
In her blindness, Firedoglike also employs language like “fucking” and so forth to make her points.”
So even SAYING it makes you go blind? I missed that part. You must need to say it lots, bc I still have legally correctable vision.
Now I know why so many people wear contacts.
69 John Casper July 7th, 2006 at 1:47 pm
My mother and about half a dozen cousins, all born within about 6 months of each other, were called “Alf’s little mistakes”, the product of my grandad’s brother explaining the rhythm method to the parents.
And an old joke:
What do you call Roman Catholics who practice the rhythm method?
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Parents.
Research is so overrated these days. In Simon’s post we get:
Gee I guess it’s too much time and effort to actually read the archives and see what this site is about?
Then what’s up with this statement:
Anyone else see a complete lack of logic in that statement? Church-state separation requires the defense of a Church’s position? Wow.
But the next statement just takes the cake,
Simon’s stating pretty clearly that we are enraged at Lieberman not because of the many issues we disagree with, one of which Simon just wrote about in the previous paragraph, but because of his war position.
I guess Simon got the memo, huh? “Push that it’s only about the war, bring it all back to this idea.”
Oh, bah! This thing is such crap. What really pisses me off is not that you can find stupid shit like this on blogs, but I get to read this kind of crap every single morning in the LA Times.
#82:
One of the nicer things about ‘fuck’ is that you can use it as having absolutely no meaning at all. It is just an overflowing of a quantum of energy that needs to be released at the time it is said. No meaning at all, just pure energy, like, “FUCK!”
It is a miniature version of the Big Bang, which, incidentally, was the biggest “FUCK!” never heard.
’cause its a GAY PiNKy…
“Xenophobia, hatred, ad hominem racist”
Those words, and the concepts they embody, are for more offensive than any word used to describe the passionate coupling of two human beings. In fact, “fuck” when used correctly, is one of the most expressive and beautiful words in the English language.
JMFO.
Paul Lukasiak 17 — exactly, I am feeling quite blessed to have the excuse to repeat it over and over and over again. The fact that I don’t even have to break a sweat to debunk all the wilting violets of the right makes it all the better.
Jenny from the blog 94 — I will gladly give up all four-letter words when the “polite” folks stop torturing, murdering and raping innocents. No problem.
I’ll take that pledge. No prob.
Really, we are seriously fucking up their shit if this is all they’ve got counterwise.
I’m Susan and I proudly approved the two horrifying words in this post.
staunch the raunch? fuck that.
preznit little bono;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....._post/3597
Surfer 82 - is there some particular reason my name came to mind?
Sharkbabe’s right at home in this thread… :~)
John Caspar,
Natural Family Planning involves tracking the various small physical changes in a woman’s body which signal ovulation. The two most commonly used indicators are the consistency of her cervical mucosa (it thins out just before ovulation) and basal temperature (taken in the morning, immediately before rising, using a thermometer accurate 0.05 F. Her temperature spikes slightly at ovulation.
To the extent that these methods work* they work by preventing fertilization. A woman is fertile during a 72-96 hour period around ovulation. Sperm survive in a woman’s reproductive tract 48-72 hours. Secondarily, they may work by preventing implantation. It’s possible for an ovum to be fertilized in the uterus, but it wouldn’t have sufficient time to undergo the development necessary to implant while the endometrium is receptive.
Incidentally, we have the technology now that allows women to monitor FSH and LH levels in their urine, and accurately predict their ovulation date. Unfortunately, it’s pretty expensive and not useful as birth control. Which is a pity, because it would make NFP a really viable alternative. I’m not sure what the Church’s stance is on that issue. The problem with the physiological indicators is that they aren’t completely reliable and can be spoofed by infections and hydration levels.
BC
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* The technical term for people who rely exclusive on NFP for birth control is ‘parent.’
“So even SAYING it makes you go blind? I missed that part. You must need to say it lots, bc I still have legally correctable vision.”
ROTFLMAO.
John Casper @ 1:47 pm (#69) - I can help you out with an old joke:
Q: What do you call people who use the rhythm method?
A: Parents.
The idea of the rhythm method, I think, is that the sperm and egg just don’t meet up due to natural circumstances, so it’s OK. Er, make that “God’s will”. Anyway, the problem is that it doesn’t work. Sperm can last quite a while in that hostile environment, and there’s only a short time when an egg isn’t available to be fertilized.
This thread might be a good place to praise C&L for posting this video of Frank Zappa kicking the crap out of Novakula and Lofton on Crossfire in ‘86.
RAR-HAWK -
He probably would settle for being “so forthed”.
W said something like “gosh darn” about the Constitution, right? And he gave someone the finger (not the pinkie, either), and I seem to recall w and deadeye exchanging some swear words on microphone while campaigning…
jest sayin’ ;)
I remember being a “victim” once of a character assassination attempt. The woman doing it was just gasping at the fact that I cursed in expressing an opinion. My response: “I see. So, it’s ok to fuck somebody over, as long as you’re polite about it?” Her only response to that was a deep, red blush.
Well that settles it, Simon is a complete inbred butt-fucked moron.
orangejumpsuit #99 I like that; when God says “fuck” the universe listens.
WARNING — Bad Joke; bad, bad bad bad bad . . .
When I was in high school, during the summers I worked for a landscape company installing sod.
An old time farmer rancher type guy told this joke — my tender sensibilities have never been the same.
A shepard came down to the homstead after a working in the hills. He dug into supper, and was mighty pleased. “Cookie, that was some right fine mutton — where did you get it?” The cook replies, “Oh, I slaughtered a sheep that was running around outside the cook tent.” The shepard says, “Well you god damned son of a bitch! You cooked my fuckin’!!!”
Mary at 106 — I believe it was a deliberate show of favoritism!
Kurt Vonnegut’s short story The Big Space Fuck (full text, I believe) captures the language issue so eloquently.
“Bargain Countertenor says
July 7th, 2006 at 2:06 pm”
Wow BC, thank you so much.
It’s the “secondarily” part that gets my attention.
BC, what do you know about the contraception administered to rape victims? AFAIK, it matches the “secondarily” part of your comment, but my opinion is uninformed and very high altitude.
If there is any technological overlap, it opens the door to a high-powered media campaign from PP and NARAL to Roman Catholics explaining the technological overlap between rape contraception and NFP.
punaise 107 - sheez, why everyone think me so degenerate, I am mainstream. I am so squeaky minty fresh mainstream, I am dyke Ozzie and Harriet.