fitz

sigh
Ned!

I watched a good bit of this on various clips today…… I say Ned should run for President. I am very impressed with him as a human being…..

Another egregious zero. I told you, I just feel it. There is a disturbance in the Force.

Sympathy request: my daughter (the married one) just came over to say goodbye before she moves 3,000 miles away. My first child. The very soul and light of my life. Hope to see you sometime soon, I say with more courage than I feel. Thanksgiving or Christmas, whatever works out best for the two of you. Sigh. Long interval of contemplation. Tears.

We honor what is true and beautiful, then are willing to fight for it. Right now I am very tearfully in the honoring part of that equation.

On topic at last, my husband said he wanted me to consult with him before giving any more to Lamont. Well, it would be illegal to give him anymore so I’m fine with that. :)

I may have missed it, but I understand Jane was at Lamont HQ during the debate, and would like her take on how things were perceived there.

egregious at 4

Here’s my hankie sweets…you can keep it.

Have you thought about the travel opportunities that come with the move?

Your turn, good and brave egregious –

(((((((((((EGREGIOUS)))))))))))

More where that came from, anytime.

I mentioned last night that my stepdad - A late fifties, Florida to Connecticut transplanted NASCAR independent said the following.

1) Lieberman represented all he dislikes about politicians

2) Lamont said what he felt the Dems should have been saying for the past 6 years.

This is no lefty, mind you. He’s vehemently more ESPN than MSNBC, doesnt read blogs, hates to talk politics. He was in the Army during Vietnam.

He’s voting for Ned in Nov. (He’s not a dem, so no primary vote)

NedHeads are EVERYWHERE!!!

http://www.WhoIsJoeLieberman.com/

egregious,

We raise them to become independent, productive adults. We only have them for a short time, and then we have to give them all the gift we received when they were given us, a life of their own.

We love them no less, we don’t stop worrying about them. And we miss them when they leave.

You’ve succeeded in your duty as parents.

BC

Petedownunder, I am interested too, but I would invite Jane to at least consider ducking the question until after November.
HoJo’s paid minions are probably monitoring all FDL threads very closely looking for something they can use against Ned. That kind of “inside information,” might come back to bite Ned at some point.
After November, when Ned has won, it won’t be quite as fresh, but I think her observations would be just as welcome.
JMO.

BC,
Thanks very much for your extremely helpful comments prior thread. I’ll try and organize them into something to send to PP and NARAL.

Good call John Casper…I agree.

I love that VandeHei called it,”…the best race in the country right now”.

John,

You’re welcome.

I think you’re tilting at windmills, given the Church’s stance on the issues, but it doesn’t matter what I think. There are plenty of Catholics who disagree with the doctrine of Humanae Vitae and perhaps you’ll make some hay in that crowd.

BC

HoJo’s paid minions are monitoring this thread?

If you are out there, it isn’t too late to flee the dark side!

Lamont’s campaign may not pay as well, but I’m sure that the karmic benefits and peace of mind that come with working for a candidate who is on the right side of the issues would more than make up for it.

(((egregious)))

Take advantage of what you two can with the Internet. Skype.com will give you VOIP phoning for free. It’s great to be able to chat about something silly for just a minute or whatever without worrying about the cost. And you can use your savings for other candidates you care about.

You might also think about a camera for the computer and a digital camera to be able to instantly (or good as) share the little things you saw.

Awwww, egregious. Don’t forget she carries all your input into her upbringing along with her, and make sure you have a good long-distance plan. But that just isn’t the same as a hug, is it? Here’s an inferior virtual one from me. {{{{{{{egregious}}}}}}}

What would Rove do to Joe?

Maybe a phone poll with this question-

Would you still vote for Joe Lieberman knowing that he is considering changing to another political party?

Don’t you get tired of hearing about how we “hate” the war and “hate” Bush? Cos, y’know, we’re psychos, us lefty maniacs.

How come they don’t talk about how right wingers “hate” immigrants and “hate” liberals? Is there any greater queen of hate than Coulter? Or her handmaid Malkin?

Latest from the Courant’s poll

4511 responses

Lieberman 598 13.8%

Lamont 1391 30.8%

Draw 102 2.3%

Didn’t watch 2420 53.6%

Lieberman’s condescension was what relly blew me away. We can do so much better than that!

I made good use of the FDL ActBlue page a few minutes ago.

Ned rocked. Coverage has been surprisingly good, a sure sign that Lieberman’s best Republican impression didn’t go over well with the press or with Connecticut voters.

QuickSilver:

bad link

“There are plenty of Catholics who disagree with the doctrine of Humanae Vitae and perhaps you’ll make some hay in that crowd.”
Exactly, I studied to be priest, never got ordained. The theology behind Humane Vitae is so abomonible, so sub-Xtian. I’m hoping the scientific information may help some Roman Catholics realize how truly bankrupt the hierarchy’s postion is.

OT, on the last thread, Mary linked to Raw Story about the Republican phone jamming. emptywheel just put out something about it today too

CNN talking about Santorum’s “desperate” attempt to turn his campaign around. He’s making illegal immigration his single issue.

Bob Casey says Dogboy is lying.

I listened to the last 1/2 hour on streaming lo-fi and I was impressed. Some here reacted thankfully that Lamont didn’t start drooling or falling to pieces in the presence of a sitting, all-powerful US Senator. But I’d say he not only didn’t fall apart, but went well beyond that and into the “Gee, I wish I had a Senator like that” territory.

egregious: I know it is not going to be easy with your first child leaving….but, the good thing is that you can write a lot of letters and take advantage of the tubernet. Of course, this will slow down my mail but I really don’t mind!

Whether Santorum can mount a come-from-behind win” (CNN)

ROFL who wants to take a stab at that?

John at 12 I see your point and it’s well taken.

My sister in law lives in CT. She is one of those people who never vote. I mean never. Ever. To keep the family peace I don’t push. But I just heard that her neighbors — who she respects enormously have jumped on the Lamont bandwagon and they have gotten her to registger as a Dem two months ago so that she can vote in the primary!!!!!

I just found out because she was over at their house watching the debate, and she is getting psyched!

Hopespringsaturtle

I am surprised you have a dry hanky left.

That is quite a gift from one in grieving herself. Thank you for this gift.

“

Joe Lieberman is dumber than a box of rocks.

If he hadn’t pulled his “Independent Democrat” stunt on Monday, he could have easily used the debate to reassure CT voters that he was on their side, and heard their concerns. Then, he could have whipped out the petitions the last week before the election, just in case. That would have been a wise strategy, and one that might have allowed him to win the Primary.

Now, he looks like another petulant politician, more concerned about himself than his constituents.

Like I said — dumber than a box of rocks. Doesn’t Connecticut deserve better?

{{{egregious}}}

Your husband obviously knows a lot about winning arguments. *g*

egregious

Hopespringsaturtle

I am surprised you have a dry hanky left.

she didn’t say it was dry…. :~)

“but, the good thing is that you can write a lot of letters and take advantage of the tubernet. Of course, this will slow down my mail but I really don’t mind!”
LMAO

Ed Schultz has been saying today that the important thing is that a Democrat win the Nov. election.

But Lieberman apparently disagrees, with his threat to run as an independent if he loses the Dem primary!

I never have warmed up to Lieb and his support of Bush’s Iraq catastrophe is simply unacceptable.

I live in New Mexico so I can’t vote for Lamont.

Not yet, at least!

egregious –

A very BIG hug to you! I can well imagine how you feel, although my experience comes from being in the offspring side of the equation.

Floods of tears were shed on all sides, with huge numbers of relatives at the airport to see me off. I got on an airplane and moved to Europe to do graduate study at university without benefit of any “summer exchange program” structures, and not knowing a single soul across the pond before I got there. Floods of tears!!!

We all survived — and this was in the days before email and cell phones! — I had access only to incoming calls on a communal phone used by upwards of 20 people. Yes, I was homesick and missed mom (and dad) something fierce at times. Would duck into a pay phone and dump significant amounts of high-denomination coin into the slots just to hear their voices and visualize them standing in the warm, cozy kitchen of home.

My mom cried a lot, and not just on the day of departure. So I hope you’re not feeling “funny” about the flood of tears. Throw yourself into it, and even wail out loud! — that would be my advice.

You will have email contact, right? This isn’t Timbuktu or some such we’re talking about — or is it? If you have an email connection, think of all the fun you’ll have sending digital photos to each other! We just got a digital camera this year, finally. And we LOVE the fact that we can take zillions of pics without paying for film, and can offload them onto the hard drive (and on the back-up hard drive, and onto floppies, etc. for good measure to be safe), and then turn around and click a whole bunch more, immediately.

It’s so great to send pics via email — even just of daily life! And then there’s VOIP to save money on phoning if you like. Why, it doesn’t even have to SEEM like you’re very far apart!

[Well, OK, that last sentence isn’t really true — you can’t FEEL a hug over the internet or a cell phone quite the same way, I know that…but still, the technology will make it much easier for you guys than it was for us. Still — even though you can’t FEEL it, I’m sending you virtual hugs, ’cause I know how it hurts.]

best wishes to ya, egregious.
we’ll be empty nesting in a half-dozen years; until then I’ll take you at your word that it’s tough.

egregious @ 4 — such a bittersweet yucky time. My son, my favorite person in the whole world, will be going away to school soon and it hurts my heart to think of it. Best wishes to you . . .

OT but SusanG at Kos has an excellent book review of Byron Dorgan’s new book:
“Byron Dorgan, the junior senator from North Dakota, may well have laid out in his new book, Take This Job and Ship It, the first rough roadmap for Democrats to find their way back into the hearts and heads of the anxious working and middle classes of America.”

Ahh you guys are great. Wet keyboard. Thanks for the love. Much needed.

Christy,
Off topic I know.
Belated congratulations on your well spoken, thoughtful appearance on cspan 6/10/o6, Cspan 2 replayed segments moments ago. I just got cspan so missed orriginal airing. I hope to see more of it.

Coming up on CNN: Joe Lieberman is fighting for his political life.

Over at TPM Cafe, Todd Gitlin sez:

Michael Crowley nails the profound question about Lieberman’s strident, kick-ass performance in his debate with Ned Lamont last night, at TNR’s “Plank”: “Where was this Joe Lieberman back when the stakes were really high?”

. . .

I think the answer has to be that Lieberman is a deacon of deference. He’s a good Jewish boy when it comes to the real power in the country: well-upholstered Republicans. He wants them to accept him, one of the boys after all — and they did, and do. (So when it came to counting military ballots during the Florida postscript to the 2000 election, he went on TV to waive the rules and welcome the counting of ballots mailed late.) Put Joe up against the old money of a Lamont scion and he gets all tough and bothered, since his own prowess is at stake — as plainly it wasn’t when his adversary was only Dick Cheney.

More here.

Not everyone watches the debates, but the impressions people have do get talked about and eventually add to the public image. Joe came off as an Angry Republican. Ned came off as a slightly green Everyman.

A self made millionaire who volunteers as a teacher vs. a three term dissapointment to his state with a sense of entitlement that is painfully transparent. Hmmm…. hard choice.

JoHo has Shays’ vote.

(happy dance)

OT - Donita,

Thanks for the You Tube!!!

Oh man, that is FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....=dormitory boys

R.G. Joe, Deacon of Deference.

Deadeye Dick, Deacon of Deferments.

Jane,

On Plame as always

Truthout has the 5/16/06 Media Hearing Transcipt. 129 pages.

I pulled some of the interesting items out in this diary, I’m sure there is much more to look at, I will go over it again this evening.

egregious,

If I’m not presuming too much, you’re welcome. You done good!

BC

I did not hear the debate, but since John Kroogman mentioned Ed Schulz, I would like people to know that Ed Schulz reported that Lieberman wiped the floor with Lamont, and that Lamont came off as amateurish.

I am not saying this to deny how well Lamont did, but to suggest that some of the so-called liberal radio hosts are not with us on this. Schulz too prides himself on being “independent” and “telling it like it is,” and he thinks that it is the “extreme left” and the Bush haters who are opposed to Lieberman. “The blogs hate Lieberman with a passion,” Schultz tells us.

Ed Schultz is no friend of mine.

egregious, letting go of my oldest was one of the hardest things I’ve ever done. So, sympathy you have from me.

It’s interesting that my husband said essentially the same thing about nedonations, but I’m not near the legal limit yet.

Hopespringsaturtle

I am surprised you have a dry hanky left.

Hope –

One of the things that bothers me MOST about only being able to pop in here infrequently is that I miss whole huge segments of conversation between members of this great Firepup community.

I’m sorry I missed hearing whatever it is that is causing you sorrow, but my thoughts and prayers go out to you nonetheless. If you don’t find it too bothersome to repeat things you’ve said before, could you fill me in? Or maybe someone else can jump in?

Hugs to you, too, Hope!

Ed Schultz all over himself.

Hope’s husband is an M.D. who just left for Iraq and Germany.

Mrs. K8,

Hope (among others of us) has a family member being deployed on TDY. Her husband is over in Germany, evac’ing wounded troops from Iraq.

BC

I tried listening to the debate but got so turned off by Lieberman’s voice, I had to stop. After reading several blogs and papers, I gave it another try. I don’t know much about Lamont. I used to be neutral about Lieberman (I didn’t like his hangin’ with Tipper Gore on the whole music/parental supervision issue). I knew he was a bit of a hypocrite, but all politicians are, so what’s the diff.
After watching Lamont debate Lieberman, I realize that Lamont does NOT come across as a hypocrite. He may have seemed a bit nervous initially, but he comes off as a very intelligent, well informed, earnest individual, and his summation speech was excellent. And after the debate, I’d vote for Lamont if only to ensure that I never had to hear that obnoxious nasal Lieberman whine again.
Does anyone know if Lieberman botoxed his upper lip? It didn’t move once.

I heard Howard Fineman in an interview on all news radio in DC today say that Lamont’s support comes from “the Internet voters who are against the war.” He did not say that voters are angry because Lieberman is basically a DINO, only that Dems are mad at him for being pro-war in Iraq!

He also said that Lieberman had to announce that he would run as an Independent if he lost the primary because he only has one day after the primary to get the 7000 signatures he needs to run as an Independent. Is this the interpretation you guys got?

Does anyone know if Lieberman botoxed his upper lip?

Not sure about that, but I think Lieberman botoxed his brain . . .

Great question mps!
“Does anyone know if Lieberman botoxed his upper lip? It didn’t move once.”

I hope someone in Ned’s campaign knows a plastic surgeon who could render a professional opinion. Since the NYT’s is still so interested in the intimacies of Bill and Hill, how could they resist HoJo’s upper lip?

On TPM cafe

On July 7, 2006 - 1:39pm BBochove said:
I guess I am not surprised by Lieberman’s passion against the progressive wing. If one looks at the DLC/NewRepublic/warhawk wing of the Democrat Party then UNIVERSALLY the main line of attack is to fire on their own troops. It is NOT an accident that Lieberman, and Beinart, and Wittman (go check out the BullMoose website), and Peretz and Zengerle, and Joe Klein, and Al From and the very stereotype of the angry centrist Zell Miller (DLC), are never as impassioned by the injustice and outrages of the Republican, far-right authoritarians with their disregard for our sick and poor and homeless or by the right’s assault on the environment ant the judiciary and civil liberties, or by the right’s embrace of military aggression and unilateralism in the service of American (read “corporate”) “interests”, as they are when they attack the progressive wing of their own party for daring to oppose the right wing and their policies of destruction and greed and selfishness.

Yes, that’s my understanding, but it’s 7,500 signatures.

pernaise 57
“Ed Schultz all over himself.”

Waht did you think of Ed’s comments..

“Ed Schultz all over himself.”

that was my editorial comment on his comments, as they were relayed here by Koheleth. exchange the “u” for an “i”

that’s 7500 valid signatures so a professional tries for at least 50% more. The Lamont folk have already announced those petitions will be scrutinized exactingly !

it’s 7,500 signatures.

7,500 VALID signatures. Usually, petition drives need to gather 30% to 50% more signatures than are needed, just to cover for the ones that are thrown out.

neurophius says:
July 7th, 2006 at 2:15 pm

Noron on Hardball is getting ready to do Joe Lieberman…

Ewww.

neurophius says:
July 7th, 2006 at 3:32 pm

Whether Santorum can mount a come-from-behind win”

C’mon Neuro, I was hoping to eat sometime tonight…

egregious @ 3:05 pm (#4) - I never had children, so can’t really relate, but I’d echo Bargain Countertenor’s thought that you’ve done what a parent should, and gave your daughter a life of her own.

If you have a broadband-diameter Internet tube, you might want to look at video conferencing software. Microsoft offers NetMeeting for free, there’s something called Ekiga (formerly GnomeMeeting) that runs on Linux and Unix, and there’s a client for the Mac, also. If it’s just between two computers, you don’t even need a server.

wow, Jane! I am blushing like a crazy progressive, that was my letter from NH to Jim. I am so honored.

running around the living room doing the happy dance :0

Okay, here’s the mission for Lamont supporters.

Flood Holy Joe’s petition drive with invalid signatures.

BC

kesher,
whats your point?

Schultz was UNINFORMED…had NO facts and just spewed Liebermans talking points….Schultz is an entertainer, he rarely has all the facts, callers called in to try and refute the Liberman talking points, it did no good, Schultz was probably already contacted by Liebermans people and promised Holy Joe will appear on his program……Can you say DLC…Schultz is VERY connected to them (DLC) and most of the time uses their talking points.

Seems to me the fallout from the debate yesterday is 90% pro-Lamont. I hate to say it but though Ned wants to answer the question, “Who is Ned Lamont,” I think this election is shaping up to be nothing other than a referendum on Joe Lieberman. It’s all about JOE and the status QUO.

Flood Holy Joe’s petition drive with invalid signatures.

I disagree. Let’s not sink to Joe’s level.

http://www.WhoIsNedLamont.com

http://www.WhoIsJoeLieberman.com

or click on my name to contribute to Ned via FireDogLike

Punaise,

I understand your reticence. On the other hand, as Clausewitz pointed out, “War is diplomacy by other means.”

Holy Joe has declared war. Use the weapons available.

BC

Sabotage is crime — and Rove GOP standard operating procedure.

Let Holy Joe fall on his own — he’s doing such a good job aready self destructing, there is no need to crawl in the gutter with him.

and won’t it be fun for the Lieber-Petitioners to be paranoid about the validity of their signatures ?

Does anyone yet know what was yelled out from the audience last nite that stopped HoJo cold?

Is “Who is Ned Lamont” a variation of Joe’s own thought? As in - “Jesus Christ! Just who the fuck is this Ned Lamont guy”?

Oscarsmom @ 4:01 pm (#76) - One thing that clearly did come across is that Ned is a good alternative, if you don’t like Joe. While he didn’t come off as polished, he made his points pretty well, and didn’t get too wonky or condescending. That’s important.

You’re right, for many the election will be about how Democrats perceive Lieberman’s service in the Senate, but if people had drawn the conclusion that Lamont was a moron or a space case, then I think it wouldn’t have mattered.

I live in an increasingly blue state with a Senator we aren’t too happy with, so this is a thought process I’m somewhat familiar with.

angie, it was just the stupid station’s 11-o’clock news promo.

Thanks, guys, for answering so quickly!

Bargain Countertenor –

When you say “among others of us” — does that mean you and your family are in the same situation?

My heart and the prayers of Mr. K8 and me go out to Hope and to all others who suffer this particular agony. How do you all manage to handle the tidal waves of anger which must well up in your hearts over and over again at this illegal monstrosity of a war?

My anger practically knocks me out from time to time, and I don’t even have family members involved. I don’t know how I would cope.

I’m just glad that this community exists. Others have helped me here a lot with my frustration with disability and our pupster’s cancer. Whatever small bit of help it may represent for me to meditate on and pray over the hurting or broken hearts of others here — it’s not just a “duty” — it’s a privilege.

Bargain Countertenor @ 4:03 pm (#79) I agree with punaise, this is a dirty trick, and best left to people who don’t mind having to explain it later.

ummmm … lieberman is more likely to say: “Jumping Jehosephat! Who the fuck is this Ned Lamont?”

that’s 7500 valid signatures

now if they need 7500 rabid signatures, that’s another story

Have any of you Nutmeggers asked NBC-30 why the moderatrix let Lieberman bully her so?

oh, poo, lotus. I so wanted it to be somebody hollering out Benedict, I hardly knew ye!

egregious –
Encourage your daughter to blog. Mine does, and it’s a wonderful visit every time I go to her site — she writes about crafts and photos she’s taken and things she’s cooked — and her life in NYC.
Almost better than talking to her — because I get a glimpse of what she’s thinking and what she’s up to — things that might not come up in conversation — but help to keep us feeling like we still occupy the same world.

heh, angie.

and your little dog, too . . . . says
I hope someone from Ned’s campaign can work through the debate tape. I bet the data would make for a great story in the CT papers, another example that HoJo cannot manage his boundaries.

*ilson46201 :
actually Lieberman is more likely to say: “Jumping JoHo-sephat!

(BTW zennurse, if you’re reading, forget Resolve, use FOLEX–Folex is a miracle cleaning product for all sorts of stains, but with 2 aging cats I can tell you it beats Resolve hands down. No smell, no sticky residue on your fingers, and boy does it WORK! Even on really old stains. I can honestly say, my life changed when I discovered it. Available at most supermarkets. And no, I don’t own the stock! Wish I did though! LOL)

Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

I guess I’d better clarify.

I wouldn’t organize a drive to flood HoJo’s drive with invalid signatures. What I would do, if I were a registered CT voter, is to sign HoJo’s petition myself. With an error.

BC

My satellite (tv) is now repaired. What time is the debate?

A really sad thing is happening in the military. A lot of neo-Nazis, skinheads, and other haters are joining up. And the Pentagon knows it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07.....mp;emc=rss

ah, BC - sly subterfuge. you devil you.

I still wouldn’t encourage that. “high road” and all.

Billmon’s already got the awful graphic http://billmon.org/archives/002516.html

Per OK kiddo at 4:15
It may be time to reinstitute the draft.

BC –

It could come back and bite Ned Lamont — and the last thing he needs is to be seen as another underhanded politician.

Tough is good; dirty is bad . . .

Squeaky Clean for Ned!!!

Ok Kiddo, read that and got sick to my stomach and head.

first gangs, now skinheads, what volunteer army?

they have no right to serve in the ME or anywhere.

thanks, W. they will come home and then we’ll reap what we have sown.

it’s either the draft or mandatory service. the hell with this.

Nedsters are neat!

John Casper @ 4:16 pm (#102) - It may be time to reinstitute the draft.

Better wait until after the election, though.

Hey egregious . . . I too left home at 21 to move 3,000 miles away with NO intention of returning anytime soon . . . and was back within the year. So hang in there–you just never know!

Well said, Cujo359, I was typing before thinking.

I thought we were rabid Nedsters of the Left, ripping petitions ….

punaise - I’m a Nedhead.

OK kid - Don’t forget we now cross the border and recruit out of poor Mexican High Schools.

Commander Codpiece: “You call these volunteers neo-Nazis and skinheads and psychotic sociopaths — I call them my base!!!”

I believe the first US soldier to die in Iraq was a Guatemalan citizen …

Cujo359 says - broadband-diameter Internet tube..

Is it possible to ream out my dial-up adapter tube to get faster internets, or will I have to call the phone company plumbers?

PS. I have a snake.

Ooo, just filched this primo quote from a comment over at TPM Cafe:

All successful revolutions are the kicking in of a rotten door.

– John Kenneth Galbraith

Ed Schultz is a tool. I spent some effort trying to educate him via e-mail about Lieberman regarding the senator’s (all-too-typical) behavior around the bankruptcy bill. I thought for a while that maybe Ed was educable because the number of fawning interviews with the “moderate” Lieberman seemed to have dropped.
Lately, though, Schultz seems to be eagerly seizing the opportunity to use the Lamont challenge to push back against the “far left.” None of the facts about the joenert one’s two-faced pattern of Bush enabling will ever sink in.

Hey egregious –

What Oscarsmom said . . .

When I was 19, my parents were very concerned when I hitchhiked cross country. Two years later, I moved 1500 miles away, from Denver to Tucson. But I came home often, and moved back within 3 years.

So hang in there, and get that VOIP phone service!

MsK8 86

I have undergone the most intense sorrow of my life these past 3 weeks. Nothing that would cause a blip on most people’s screens, but mine is a dog, too, (and not a little one - - a big one) and I can’t even write about him yet.

FDL has kept me connected to the world in a way real people contacts couldn’t. (Mommy, why is that crazy woman crying?)

I owe you guys my sanity.

Some day maybe I can tell you about it, but meantime, thanks so much to all of you.

Ed Schultz is a DLC-style Democrat, and he has yet to evolve past that. And given his roots, don’t count on him ever moving past it.

What we need from people like Schultz is what I promise them. I will back the Democratic candidate. Period.

BC

War is NEITHER diplomacy by others means NOR politics by others means.

In fact, war is the ANTITHESIS of either diplomacy or politics.

Just cause von Clauswitz said it doesn’t make it TRUE, or smart or cool or witty or pithy or anything else.

And, whenever someone does bring it up, I always counter with John Keegan’s “A History of Warfare,” in which Keegan, the world’s foremost (if you want to say one of the foremost that’s ok too) military historians, debunks Clauswitz’s dictum.

And I am not going to stop.

JWR @ 4:22 pm (#113) - I think there’s a law that says you have to get the phone company to do it. Some physicist wrote that law, and you know how they are about amendments. The Supreme Court doesn’t take those cases, either.

and your little dog, too . . . ., as soon as you’re ready, hon, we’re here to catch whatever you need to spill. Bless your heart.

And I am not going to stop.

I don’t think even Einstein came up with a theory on how to stop a universe.

Ed Schultz is bought and paid for by the Democratic senators. He used their money to launch his show (after Randi Rhodes turned it down). Of course he’s going to be propping up incumbents like Lieberman.