Fitz!
Jane!
Christy!
Roots!
Ned!

And TRex too *.g*!

“trivial and meritless as they are irresponsible”

Trivial. Meritless. And irresponsible.

Three words I would not throw around if I had published Ann Coulter.

I believe in boxing this is called “leading with your chin.”

These people should be deeply ashamed of themselves. I still can’t believe people who live in New York would publish such filth.

TRex!

Oh Trex, I’m all giddy with excitement. Trash the punk!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! This is so very sweeeeeeet.

And even though she’s been offered the chance to defend herself, she has not. She either attacks on her critics or is silent. No defense. None.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

Christy Hardin Smith says:
July 7th, 2006 at 7:11 pm

Hey all — just wanted to pop in for a moment and say that tomorrow’s Pull Up a Chair thread will be some gardening and vegetable and fruit recipes. (Thought the vegetarians in the group might like a whole Saturday of recipes and chatting that they could use. And, frankly, I could use some more veggie recipes myself…) Can everyone pass it around to the late night crowd for me, if I’m already in bed by then? Thanks!

Bobby G trained us:

“Anne Coulter, republican pundit and spokesperson” and alleged serial plagerist . .

rinse . repeat.

“Ann Coulter, the Republican pundit who faced plagiarism accusations over her last book…”

Dare we hope that it really is her last book?

Great writing, Trex! Just glad I don’t drink tea this time of night, when you usually post.

BTW, what ever happened to her illegal voting issue? Oh wait…

“Forget it, Jake. It’s Florida.”

(And other headlines we’d eat a live kitten to see after this…!)

um, TRex, I don’t mean to go all sensitive on ya, but I could do without the geek-trick metaphors … or how about you make that a Banana Slug instead of a kitten, and piss off the UC Santa Cruz fans instead?

Okay, I’m with PZ Meyers on this one …

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyn…..post_3.php

“OK, many people seem to be picking up on Coulter’s plagiarism, Karl Mogel picks up on the overt sexism of Coulter’s remarks*, but there’s far too little discussion of the fact that Coulter’s book is a tissue thin collection of lies. Her understanding of science is negligible, and she’s simply parroting old creationist nonsense, but almost no one is pointing out that fact. Is science just too hard for the media? Shouldn’t the fact that she plagiarizes be a lesser sin than the fact that she is making stuff up?”

Actually, I think they’re both part of the same problem, but it’s interesting that the plagiarism might bring her down, and not the fact that she speciously dismisses evolution to appeal to her base readers. Unsurprising in our current clime, but remember … not only is she plagiarizing, she’s plagiarizing from reality-deniers!

But Trex we all know who really wants the coulter to seep back into the septic system?
She, whose name must not be spoken,
‘Valdemalkin’.
Who woulda thought it would come to this.
Good time for me to start a diary, my grand children will never believe this crap.

Wow, not only may this story bring down the Coultergeist, it might also drag a conservative publishing house through millions of dollars of litigation….Happy Friday, everyone!

“Always winter, and never Christmas.”

What a great line. Can I use it? It just gave me a really wonderful idea for a kid’s book, you know throw in some bratty kids, maybe an evil queen in homage to the Coulter, and, wait, I’ve got it, a lion to eat up the evil queen. Wow! I think I’m on to something here. Does anyone have the email address for Random House?

Oh, TRex, this is a magnificent post. I finally lost it at “Some people live on evil like Keith Richards lives on heroin! She may go on like this FOREVER!” Thank you. Gods I so hope she’s going down in flaming poo-smelling wreckage, like a mysterious smouldering bag on a doorstep.

I have an excerpt from Coulter’s next book detailing her trials and tribulations on the Mississippi river. Enjoy.

—————————————

YOU don’t know about me without you have read a book by the name of The Adventures of Tom Sawyer; but that ain’t no matter. That book was made by Mr. Mark Twain, and he told the truth, mainly. There was things which he stretched, but mainly he told the truth. That is nothing. I never seen anybody but lied one time or another, without it was Aunt Polly, or the widow, or maybe Mary. Aunt Polly — Tom’s Aunt Polly, she is — and Mary, and the Widow Douglas is all told about in that book, which is mostly a true book, with some stretchers, as I said before.

Now the way that the book winds up is this: Tom and me found the money that the robbers hid in the cave, and it made us rich. We got six thousand dollars apiece — all gold. It was an awful sight of money when it was piled up. Well, Judge Thatcher he took it and put it out at interest, and it fetched us a dollar a day apiece all the year round — more than a body could tell what to do with. The Widow Douglas she took me for her son, and allowed she would sivilize me; but it was rough living in the house all the time, considering how dismal regular and decent the widow was in all her ways; and so when I couldn’t stand it no longer I lit out. I got into my old rags and my sugar-hogshead again, and was free and satisfied. But Tom Sawyer he hunted me up and said he was going to start a band of robbers, and I might join if I would go back to the widow and be respectable. So I went back.

The widow she cried over me, and called me a poor lost lamb, and she called me a lot of other names, too, but she never meant no harm by it. She put me in them new clothes again, and I couldn’t do nothing but sweat and sweat, and feel all cramped up. Well, then, the old thing commenced again. The widow rung a bell for supper, and you had to come to time. When you got to the table you couldn’t go right to eating, but you had to wait for the widow to tuck down her head and grumble a little over the victuals, though there warn’t really anything the matter with them, — that is, nothing only everything was cooked by itself. In a barrel of odds and ends it is different; things get mixed up, and the juice kind of swaps around, and the things go better.

After supper she got out her book and learned me about Moses and the Bulrushers, and I was in a sweat to find out all about him; but by and by she let it out that Moses had been dead a considerable long time; so then I didn’t care no more about him, because I don’t take no stock in dead people.

Pretty soon I wanted to smoke, and asked the widow to let me. But she wouldn’t. She said it was a mean practice and wasn’t clean, and I must try to not do it any more. That is just the way with some people. They get down on a thing when they don’t know nothing about it.

I guess plagiarism is defined differently in commercial world. If you were a student, or researcher, Coulter’s, um, methods of reporting her in depth research would be, like major plagiarism. Which, since most people here were students at one time, or are now, is more of reminder than a revelation.

OT, but related to previous post, here is an interesting Soros Foundation site I found that tries to keep track of Iraqi government revenues, with focus on oil, of course. From what I have read so far, lots of genteel frustration and rage:
http://www.iraqrevenuewatch.org/

Sorry to go all OT on you, TRex, but I just saw this from the Times Online, UK:

“NED LAMONT has floppy hair, talks too fast and has inherited a fortune from a blue-chip Republican family of Wall Street financiers.”

Huh?

More snappy would be:

Ann Coulter, aledged plagiarist, …

Or

Aledged plagiarist Ann Coulter …

Exmples:

Today, aledged plagiarist Ann Coulter went on Meet the Press and did not answer questions regarding her book ‘Godless.’
(These quesions not necessary having even been asked)

Some people say Ann Coulter, the aledged plagiarist, supports Al Qaeda.
(Who? Oh, you know… some people)

Perfect segue into the weekend, TRex. God luv ya.

G’night, all.

Just flipped by the second screening of tonight’s O’Reilly Fuckter, he had on Wan Williams and some standard issue Republican broad discussing Little Miss Copycat. The gist that I caught was that Michael Moore is just as bad. So there.

BLOG POWER!

In response to #13 and PZ Meyers (who is, by the way, awesome), Al Capone was finally locked up for tax evasion. His diseased body then slowly fell apart.

yes yes yes all praise the rude one.

(Yo T, it’s “to wit,” not “to whit.”)

Nightcap–gotcher lullabye for the night right here. Blissful.

http://video.google.com/videop…..4656145640

BTW, Michael Behe is full of sh*t, and anyone that claims otherwise is either mentally retarded, or flat-out lying, or both. THAT, I know.

EPU’d from last thread re RFK, Jr on Charlie Rose (probably OT but think the link to the clip worth watching if you missed it):

Hugh,

Thanks for commenting on this. I too caught RFK, Jr. on Charlie Rose and was equally impressed. If anyone out there wants to watch it, Thursday’s show is till available at their website:

http://www.charlierose.com/

Fast forward to about the 35-minute mark and you’ll catch the interview with him. Really impressive – came across as informed, passionate, eloquent, and every bit the bulldog his Dad was….refused to let Charlie mitigate or water-down his statements about Iraq, the media, the criminality of the Bush administration, the stealing of the 2004 election in Ohio, etc., etc.

I’d never seen him before but had heard him frequently on his radio show and was really surprised at how much more effective he was on TV. His gravelly voice can sometimes sound weak or difficult to understand on radio – on TV his obvious passion and courtroom manner completely reverses this impression ….

I agree it would be great to get him to guest post here sometime.

Rude one!

Coulter will be harder to discipline on this: the reactionaries love her act, whatever it is and whatever it does for them. It will be interesting to see what the push back is and who is backing it. I guess whoever bulk buys the books will be part of it. I think that topic would be a very interesting contribution to the Buzz counterattack against this bad act.. er… I mean, serious and responsible discussion of her alleged, only alleged, and of which they have only found half a dozen or so examples, plagiarism.

Which reminds, me, WHERE can we find those SIDE BY SIDE comparisons of Coulters junk with the originals that I’ve read about. I’d like to see those. They should be all over the internet to encourage serious discussion of the allegations. Are they someplace on the internet?

JWR

The Times of London is owned by Rupert Murdoch and while it has supported Blair because Murdoch likes Blair it has been accused of becoming more conservative. Parenthetically, the Times New Roman font originated with them.

fartsinsleep, valdemalkin! lolol

Josh Marshall has a mini-late-niter of his own:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c…..php#008966

The Great Tunnel Terraists of 2006 turn out to be another “aspirational” group. I’m not sure if that term of art means that they’re wannabes or they simply suck. Or both.

Shouldn’t the fact that she plagiarizes be a lesser sin than the fact that she is making stuff up?

Oh, PZ has such charming views. C*****r’s ‘research methods’ are pretty obvious for anyone who has the ascetic self-mortification to ‘read’ her: she’s a cut-and-paste troll. The factchecking and subbing at these conservative outlets is famously thin. These books are made to sell and sell quickly (bulk purchases) and be quickly forgotten for everything other than their zombie lies, just like a fast food order that gives you nothing but indigestion.

The gist that I caught was that Michael Moore is just as bad. So there.

Yes, and he’s fat too. They must have forgot to mention that.

“When has that Coulter girl ever, ever, ever run from a camera? Either someone had just dashed her in the face with holy water and her flesh was still smoking and melting off her skull…”

You have such a way with words! Tis a gift.

I’m not gonna be able to think of AC without thinking of the Wicked Witch of the West “I’m melting, melting.”

No, really, I swear it’s “to whit”.

PlagiarAnnist or PlagiarAnn: The lying acts of a cruel and unfounded pundit.
Why doesn’t this surprise me? It’s so predictably right wing. Do whatever it takes to make the money and slit throats before anyone catches you in the act.
Go TRex, ManAnndler.

TRex – I just LOVE your posts!

And for a little OT – If you haven’t seen this image posted over at DU, it may give you inspiration for a future post.

My favorite caption:

“Mr Hastert, on your left you will see our Erectile Dysfunction research labs…Mr. President, to your right is our sandbox, go cart track and play equipment”

If that doesn’t get ya curious, nothin’ will. :o)

Ed Schultz is so fat, he isn’t fit to carry his own jockstrap.

O Supremely Rude One,

Yes, your point is taken (and I glommed onto your and Raw Story’s work from near Day One … thank you, thank you for pushing it). My only point is that every time we talk about her plagiarism from our side of the Reality Chasm, we need to add the P.S.: “and, oh yeah, and what’s she plagiarizing? She’s plagiarizing creationists.” Morally and intellectually lazy!

Ooh, Atrios links to Media Matters on the same!
http://mediamatters.org/items/200607070010

Heh.

Prairie Sunshine 27 – What an accomplished, rhythmic, and passionate juggler. Thanks!

Anne of a Thousand Nights

Off with her Head!

al-Scooter

Perhaps it should be called the GWOVT, the global war on virtual terrorists, or if that’s too heavy, maybe the WOW, War on Wannabes, or the WOOF, War on Overthetop Fruitcakes.

TRex, your Late-Nights have become one of my favorites.

Respectful Dissent @ 13. I was thinking the very same thing before I read your comment. Plagiarism is an interesting ethical lapse. But the dynamite about the book is that Ann Coulter doesn’t believe evolution occurred.

Guess she sees the counter-example in the mirror each morning…

Hugh – Same paper did a hit piece on Markos last weekend.

If anyone missed Peterr’s post here from this morning, go read it … then contrast that with Coulter’s whaddyacallit, not writing but whatever it is she does that gets in the pages of an alleged book with her name on it. Hmm.

Hugh, or maybe the G-What?

Anne of a Thousand Cribs

“Republican Plagiarist Ann Coulter’s allegedly best-selling alleged book was recalled today in humiliation by formerly respected publisher Random House.”

“trivial and meritless as they are irresponsible”

Classic non-denial denial, yes?

Finally, we’ve nearly run this wretched beast to ground, after having to put up with her beastly behavior for so long.

What I want to know: when are we going to go after the HIVE?? When are we going to figuratively load up the posse with a truckload of RAID, pitchforks and torches and some Molotov cocktails and go after the origin of this beast and her hive-mates like Malkin?

And I’d really like to know why there hasn’t been some more concerted effort on investigating the criminal element at work here; Coulter isn’t just a plagiarist, she’s a fraud. So are her litter mates like Michael McManus, Armstrong Williams, Maggie Gallagher and probably more who’ve not yet been ID’d like the other four as plagiarists or payola recipients. This is a much bigger problem than it seems on the surface because they are all of them connected by a very few organizations — maybe just one — and they all get compensated in the same way.

It’s time to torch the hive.

(Nice work, TRex. Keep ‘em sharp.)

Nice work, TRex. Absolutely.

the last time ann ran from a camera, it was around the neck of a mexican immigrant in los angeles!

Coulter’s book is a tissue thin collection of lies…

That is a lie.

It is in fact quite thick and bulky and in no way appropriate for wiping yourself with, unless properly recycled (which will no doubt be the fate of the majority of the copies of her latest book). This bulk is what allows the work to be so thourghly saturated with statements made by other people. However, it does not allow for actual attributions. That would require an additional volume, which is normally reserved for the errata.

Also, Ann is not “simply parroting old creationist nonsense” — that is a complete mischaracteriszation of her writing style. ‘Parroting’ implies she may have actually typed something herself and have a detailed enough memory of the words to accurately reproduce them, albeit without having necessarily digested it meaning, without having to consult the original source. There is no evidence of this. At best we can assume she simply copies and pastes large swathes of text. Until it can be proven that none of these sources exist in a digital format, to say she even transcribed the words is a stretch.

It is also quite likely that any actual manual work was done by illegal immigrants hired as day laborers. It’s a well known fact that any exertion on the part of Ms. Coulter may stress her physique to the point of fracture. That, and she is a hypocrite.

Finally, it is not that Ms. Coulter does not understand “science,” it is simply that “science” does not sell. Outrageous, lunatic statements are far more marketable. Scienctific and factual content tend to dilute the efficacy and impact those sorts of statements have on the buying public. That is why anyone who wishes to interview Ms. Coulter must first sign a legal binding contract that obligates them to purge their remarks of anything resembling an established scientific fact. Also, they must treat her as is he is sane. And she gets to eat part of their soul, if they in fact still have one.

Respectful Dissent @ 8:46 pm (#13) – None of this should come as a shock to people who’ve been watching Coulter over the years. I remember reading an online critique of one of her books. The guy got tired of making corrections after one chapter, and no wonder. The thing was nearly as long as the chapter itself. I’ll try to find that article. Meanwhile here’s one on Slander:

http://www.anncoulter.blogspot.com/

For those who may be interested:

The original version of The Manchurian Candidate just started showing ten minutes ago on Turner Classic Movies.

I’m heading off to the sofa to watch now. Will be back later to read everyone’s snarkilicious contributions to this thread…

Potentially interesting factoid: nearly 100% of the plagiarized papers turned in to me by students are submitted by the 10-15% of my students who are business majors.

The other story here:

The blogs did it. The blogs are having a substantial impact on the national discourse. The pundits may sneer at us, but they don’t igore us. We ask the right questions, and next thing you know, CNN is asking the same questions with credit to the blogs. This is important.

New Random House subsidiary to publish future Coulter “works” to be called Random Hose?

Tryggth @ 46, actually, we don’t know what she really believes. She’s not dumb, and she’s obviously made it through some elite hoops of the American school system. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if before her rise as “shocking conservative pundit” she accepted, you know, science.

Her book is aimed at her base readers, and is light on reason, facts, honesty, and any other virtues because the point is to get people to fork over $15 to reinforce their own tribal identity. If you buy that she’s all about marketing, self-promotion and schtick, then I wouldn’t put massive, blatant hypocrisy beyond her as well. (Either that, or she really is the caricature she markets.)

TRex,

It is good of you to give The Rude Pundit credit for his role in tossing the holy water on the Coultergeist’s face with his revelations of her plagiarism. I salute The Rude One. His was the first blog I paid any attention to, and it gave me a good many laughs. After a while I got curious and started checking out some of the blogs listed on his blogroll. One of them was FDL, and I have been here ever since. I sort of got a Rude introduction.

It is good of you to give The Rude Pundit credit for his role in tossing the holy water on the Coultergeist’s face with his revelations of her plagiarism.

Well, typically the media outlets that are running with it are acting like they discovered it themselves. RP deserves mad props on this.

For Ned: “Ann Coulter’s favorite democrat, Joe Lieberman.”

For Jennifer (Granholm): Ann Coulter’s favorite republican, Dick DeVoss. She LIKES Dick.”

For Darcy: Ann Coulter’s favorite Cascade Mountain man, Dave Reichart. Ann Especially likes the REICH part of Reichart. Maybe other parts also..”

For Jon (Tester): Ann Coulter’s favorite Republican, Conrad Burns, or as Ann so lovingly calls him, Conrad “Rugburns!”

Even on Washington Week there was tlak of blogs and Gwen Ifil always flogs their website. But, of course, there was one of the reporters (whose name I unfortunately did not catch) who had to say he thought that blogs were overrated. I seem to remember many dinosaurs had a similar view of mammals. Look they’re small and hairy. Nothing to worry about, nope, no future there.

The flatulent raccoon, in repose at her tar pond abode

;>)

I seem to remember many dinosaurs had a similar view of mammals. Look they’re small and hairy. Nothing to worry about, nope, no future there.

Well, right-wing bloggers, you know, most of them are in night school trying to evolve a thumb.

Oh, wait. They don’t believe in evolution.

Respectful Dissent @ 61 -

Its $4.99 at NewsMax.
http://www.newsmax.com/adv/godless/

And yes, I suspect she doesn’t really (deep in her, eh-hem, heart) doubt that evolution occurred.

Just saw this posted at sfgate:
The publisher of “Godless,” the Crown Publishing Group, issued a statement saying it had reviewed the “the allegations of plagiarism” in her book and “found them to be as trivial and meritless as they are irresponsible.”

“As an experienced author and attorney, Ms. Coulter knows when attribution is appropriate, as underscored by the 19 pages and hundreds of endnotes contained in ‘Godless,’” Crown’s senior vice president and publisher, Steve Ross, said in the statement.”

Guess they’re willing to go to the line for her.

ACK!! DarkBlack!!

MY EYES!!

*Grabs wastebasket*

*HURL!*

“And yes, I suspect she doesn’t really (deep in her, eh-hem, heart) doubt that evolution occurred.”

Except perhaps as Trex notes, among her readers.

TREX: I crashed earlier and just woke up. I ran to my tube mill and sure enough, a post from TREX. Yowser. Great One.

And that, my tube stuffing amigoes, is how we know that this yarn really does have gams. I sense that the little case full of points we have seen thus far of Annie the Twig’s oral duplicity possibly will be just TREX hints at: the very slanty slant of a life size ol’ Pisa-leaner of a career tower. “Why, cc, why?” you ask, “What makes you imagine that this will be the real live once-and-for-all post that severs through her ebony, wicked empathy? Some people live on evil like Halliburton lives on disaster! She may go on like an ever ready battery!

Oh, please, darkblack. Don’t ever do that to me again!

Darkblack -

I’m sure Ms. Coulter would appreciate your efforts to improve her image, but please, think of the children.

Call me cynical but I believe there is an even darker secret behind the Coulter success story, and that is my suspicion that the “writer” we know as Ann Coulter is not a single person but a gaggle of ghost writers who labor in anonymity to come up with her most shocking, obscene, and borderline insane rantings for her to dish in her column and on TV.

At this time, I suspect Crown is very very nervous that all this will lead to outing Ann Coulter as not even Ann Coulter. I believe she is mainly a front for a cottage industry you can call “Ann Coulter smut journalism.”

So the supreme irony is that some of the plagiarism attributed to her may in fact be the products of some of her minions, but there is no way she can point the finger at them, for that would mean exposure to another lie, that she is not even Ann Coulter.

Absolutely too cool for school, gang. THE Robert Greenwald just dropped into the EPU Zone in the last thread to shout out to Jane here at FDL.

Awesome.

With that I wrap up my night, have to find a veggie recipe for tomorrow’s Pull up a Chair thread before I head out of town for another family event. Aloha kekahi i kekahi!

Also, my son goes to college (I was born very young) and he has to run his essays through http://www.turnitin.com to check it for plagiarism. Since the website is just for students Annie May not be allowed to use it. Maybe someone should set up shop and call it http://www.tubeitin.com?

While searching for that other article, I found this one by Aaron Barlow Lying All The Way about Coulter, Horowitz, et. al.

Let’s take the case of my favorite whipping boy, David Horowitz. What he does is no different, really, from any of the others, be they the swiftboaters or White House spokespeople. Horowitz is a smart man (many of these people are), too smart not to know the weaknesses of the “research” he presents in his books. He went to Columbia as an undergraduate and earned a Master’s at Berkeley. He has to know something about what real research is, but is satisfied with sloppy cut-and-paste in his books. Ann Coulter graduated from a top law school, so she knows, too, just what good research is.

Check it out if you haven’t already. It’s from April of this year.

This is related. I posted late in the Roger Simon Clown post below.

Roger L Simon, Johnsons “Pajamas Media” partner actually slipped Cheney’s “Atta met AQ in Prague” lie into his latest “Moses Wine” novel. Twice.

How about that for paying back your wingnut welfare masters?

Amazon “search inside” link included in below post. We discovered this blatant propaganda catapulting and believe it should get the derision it richly deserves.

http://lgfwatch.blogspot.com/2…..w-job.html

AirportCat @ 48

Thanks for the mention, but c’mon – this object in question does have covers and pages . . .

not a book I’m interested in reading, mind you, but it might keep the door open when I want a breeze to blow through.

Here is a nice piece in Editor & Publisher by a columnist who apologizes for having once said something positive about the Coultergeist:

http://www.editorandpublisher……1002727144

It’s good to see Coulter finally getting her comeuppance. For a long time know I’ve had my own name for her.

Since I first saw her on Politically Correct some years ago and heard her speak, I thought too myself what a bitch. She started talking and would not stop. The shit just kept running and running out of her mouth.

That’s when I gave her the name Diarrhea Mouth.
Once she oppened her mouth it was just like she had diarrhea and the shit would not stop flowing from her.

So is this Ann Coulter?

“Liberals, generally speaking, hate the war and hate Bush.”

Nope, it’s WaPo reporter Jim VandeHei. Thanks for the framing, Poolboi.

Agh, orangejumpsuit, you checked me short with that one and just before I clicked ShutDown, too.

That’s exactly my point. I suspect that the Hive is the origin for both Coulter’s and Domenech’s work, but I don’t have anything more than suspicions to go on just yet…although Domenech had been at Regnery with Malkin, and Coulter has also been published by Regnery. Regnery isn’t THE Hive, but it’s a portion of the Hive.

“Coulter’s publicist said she couldn’t appear on camera.”

She also can’t appear in a mirror!

Thanks also, Rude, for neurophius. We owe you one.

Peterr @ 80 “War and Peace” is a book. “Love in the Ruins” is a book. “Godless” is, as you implied, more likely a doorstop.

ejf — maybe that ubiquitous little black cocktail dress finally wore out, too…got nothing to wear to contain She-who-will-not-leave-breath-on-the-mirror while on camera. What a sad loss.

I meant the dress. Must have been made of a DARPA-engineered carbon nanotech fiber to withstand her…

TeddySanFran @ 9:47 pm (#83) – The lack of violence gave him away.

OT, possibly. Teddy–some more Jim VandeHei:

In an October 13 Washington Post article, staff writer Jim VandeHei reported as fact an allegation in great dispute — that former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV was sent to Niger in 2002 “at the suggestion of his wife….

In 1998, VandeHei broke the story that President Bill Clinton was going to be impeached…..

Jim VandeHei wrote this in 2005….The terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, transformed Bush from a president focused mostly on domestic policies and politics into a wartime leader…

In Feb. 2006, Jim VandeHei wrote…Democrats are basically building their election strategy on the Abramoff scandal…

On Jan. 20, 2006 VandeHei wrote…As some House Republicans campaign to oust their scandal-blemished GOP leadership team, they are facing an obstacle back home. It seems many voters could not care less.

From a story by VandeHei and Peter Baker…From shielding energy policy deliberations to setting up military tribunals without court involvement, Bush, with Cheney’s encouragement, has taken what scholars call a more expansive view of his role than any commander in chief in decades. With few exceptions, Congress and the courts have largely stayed out of the way, deferential to the argument that a president needs free rein, especially in wartime.

Thanks, Teddy.

*smiley face*

ejf @85

Thank you for that! Should we be wearing garlic when we watch Fox News? Is that our problem….?

…my suspicion that the “writer” we know as Ann Coulter is not a single person but a gaggle of ghost writers…

I’ve always thought of her more as a thirteen member gestalt creature that feeds on death itself.

Be that as it may, I would agree that the idea that she actual authors these screeds in their entirety is doubtful. I suspect there are a lot of ‘interns’ involved.

In any case, the emphasis is most likely time-to-market and not content. It’s pulp fiction for the non-fiction set. The sort of errors that are being cited with the book probably are the result to rushing to meet a deadline, of trying to churn out the required number of pages before the date the printer needs it by so the book can be on the shelves by the time the media campaign begins. This last one in particular, with its publication date having been set to be a particular date (6-6-06) to tie in which its “theme” and a fairly large media campaign built up around it, probably relegated anything to do with the text itself to tertiary status.

But that’s probably just as well — the product being sold isn’t the book so much as it is Ann Coulter herself. It would be inetresting to do a test on comprehension from its readers (or its alleged author, for that matter) to get a sense of how far they actually get into these tomes.

One gets the sense the book is written by interns to be read by interns who find the best quotes for interview segments (if those are prepared ahead of time as part of the press kit). Now of course there’s an additional audience, computer programs that try to find instances of plagiraism. That must be a decidedly upwark tick in the level of sophiscation of her audience.

Huh. Colin Ferguson just did a bit on Bush in Chi-town where Bush is talking s-l-o-w-l-y as if impaired…still surprises me to see this stuff after so long without any criticism of Dubya on mainstream television.

And now I really, REALLY have to go to bed…

wesgpc at 31: TMP Muckraker has a list.

Bobdog @ 9:57 pm (#93) – My guess is that she takes nourishment from misery, too. Otherwise, I think you’re spot on.

Who left that Seeds video on YouTube in the last comment thread?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4Ge…..60’s

I remember seeing that when I was a little, little kid on the Mothers-in-Law and thinking it was prefectly normal to come home and find Skye Saxon and the Seeds playing in your living room and sit there with your parents and watch them. I just could not understand what we were doing wrong that it wasn’t happening to us because it really seemed like it would be a lot of fun.

why not write the mmm and give rude pundit his props?

Anne Coulter, lawyer, serial plagiarist and tertiary syphlis survivor….

tertiary syphlis survivor….

More like existential herpes.

You forgot the patch she wore over an eye (for piracy).

Steno Sue would like to tell you about the WH Abramoff logs:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01317.html

We think it’s gassy! ~

hehe, I think this says it all…

narry a penny have i spent
ann just came and went
how many ways can you fluff shit
she’s a shit fluffer..
mister hinky owns that role
not annie..
she speaks as if she has a mouth full of tumble-turd balls (ole out house term)

“…couldn’t appear on camera.” Huh? Did Coultergeist forget to take her estrogen pills that day? The voice was a little too low, and she was lookin a little Gannon/Guckert-y, me thinks. C’mon…she’s a he…seriously.

some of this stuff is funny, but going from all Ann all the negative time to all Ned all the positive time to all Ann all the time negative is wasting time. Four weeks and four days to August 8, the biggest voting day of the summer. Stay awake, doggies……..

Is Ann Coulter really a real lawyer, or is she a law school graduate?

The J.D. is a just a degree, and speaks only to academic acheivement. Being a lawyer means actually practicing law, having clients, getting paid for the time you put in and the work and results you produce on the client’s behalf.

[for example, I still have the J.D. (earned it fair and square) but am no longer a lawyer]

Which is she?

She used to be a law clerk if Im not mistaken.

Bless me Father TRex, I have sinned, mortally.
I linked to Red State’s latest on anorexia poster girl Ann Coultergeist’s plagiarism.
I can’t confirm Red States’ accuracy in any way.
OrangeJumpSuit’s comment made a lot of sense to me that Ann probably has a publishing mill with several “writers.” This plagiarism looks to me to be pretty careful and pretty routine. First, she’s plagiarizing pablum. (If you’re going to plagiarize, do it like Martin Luther King, plagiarize someone really good like Paul Tillich.) Once Ann’s hacks plagiarize, it seems to me that they go back and take words out or make slight changes to hide the plagiarism. Based on what’s already been written on this thread, I suspect her books and articles are 100% plagiarized. Her writers, however, have just done a better job of hiding most of it from the software.

Now Father TRex, may I have absolution and a suitable penance?

Coulter clerked for the Honorable Pasco Bowman II of the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit and was an attorney in the Department of Justice Honors Program for outstanding law school graduates.

After practicing law in private practice in New York City, Coulter worked for the Senate Judiciary Committee, where she handled crime and immigration issues for Senator Spencer Abraham of Michigan. From there, she became a litigator with the Center For Individual Rights in Washington, DC, a public interest law firm dedicated to the defense of individual rights with particular emphasis on freedom of speech, civil rights, and the free exercise of religion.

A Connecticut native, Coulter graduated with honors from Cornell University School of Arts & Sciences, and received her J.D. from University of Michigan Law School, where she was an editor of The Michigan Law Review.

~

I guess so…it’s not like she is really gonna tarnish this fine profession any further, me thinks. ;)

Law clerk is law clerk. In many cases, you don’t even have to pass your state’s bar exam to do it.
If that is all she’s got, she’s not a lawyer.

As much as we would like not to believe it, I saw a bio of Coultergeist somewhere that indicated she had done some actual legal work. (I would be happy for someone to demonstrate that it was not for real). The interesting thing about that is that as a member of a state bar (New York, I think)(unless she has resigned)she is bound by a code of professional responsibility (legal ethics) that forbids, among other things, moral turpitude, which includes lying and misrepresentation, and I think that her plagiarism would qualify for that, as would her Florida voting behavior.

Here is the NY Bar lookup – Ive no idea what counties/borough she practiced in(NY/DC)…anyone know of a more instantaneous way of checking if someone is active in the NY Bar Assoc?

http://www.nysba.org/Template……mp;cty=lrs

alas the failure to refresh properly!

So she and I have this in common – both of us are ex-lawyers. I would say Ann and I are both women, also, but she comes off so XY all the time that I can’t help wondering.

In reference to the room full of monkeys theory – that sounds entirely plausible. Paid hacks couldn’t be trusted not to roll for some cash at the height of some scandal or another. So, who has such loyal interns? Those think-tanks? Is there a trail to follow? (scat is more likely than breadcrumbs, I think)

Someone has to say it, so it might as well be me: Ann Coulter gives lawyers a bad name.

I gotta say, the more you read from Christy, looseheadprop, and the rest of the lawyers (or law school graduates, for that matter) around this place, the more the lawyer jokes start to get stale. Then along comes Ann, and they percolate right back up to the top again.

My sympathy, ye Firedoglawyers, for what you’ve got to put up with.

Now Father TRex, may I have absolution and a suitable penance?

Goodness. How does one respond to that?

Yes, you will come to my quarters and cane me for an hour.

It’s very simple. The right pays people to go through every single detail of every single deed of people of interest, it’s time for us to do the same.

Let’s do a Firedoglake fundraiser and pay someone to list EVERY detail from Godless, from Treason, from Slander, from all the columns. Maybe the Daily Howler should chime in. This will be like shooting fish in the barrel. The reality here is that its not the number of items already cited, because when looked at in detail its going to be on just about every page. Its the entire dishonest process that goes into the fabrication of the rhetoric that she spews. It’s the cribbing of shlock rightist talking points literature and then citing not the literature but unrelated works, not for support but to twist meaning and value of the works cited. Her efforts are not just to make a political statement but to damage the definition of the words made in the statement itself. It’s not just that the footnotes of works in her books are chosen out of context, it’s that they were intentional chosen to create a record of misreprentation. Anne isn’t just a plagarist she’s an orwellian destructionist and any serious examination of her work will force the creation of a whole new category of literary crime. Think I’m hyperbolic? Check-out any of the fine pages of the Daily Howler from the past couple of years on Anne and her work.

Crown is going to eat their words. They are going to pull the book and there are going to be heads rolling. Anne may be charming in person, but you know if you build a career eating babies on television, charming doesn’t really wash away the blood. In fact it would seem to the casual observer that people who can appear “charming” while eating babies are precisely the people you should never turn your back on. Odds are we will soon find out that there are some things deeply wrong with Anne. But worse we will learn of those who enabled her, who themselves knew entirely how screwed up she was and used her because of it.

Knowing what we know about Brock can anyone imagine Anne’s story won’t be more sordid?

Jim 3

“I still can’t believe people who live in New York would publish such filth.”

And I still can’t believe the generally commendable Costco SELLS the damned thing.

Sorry for the off topic Trex, but I just posted this a couple of threads down below, but I want to make sure it is read.

Long Comment on Debate Differences at DKOS, posted by marked50 on Fri Jul 07, 2006 at 08:31:06 AM PDT

This is my first post on this website. I have been a viewer for about a year. This may not be a unique observation, since I have not read all of the recent posts on this subject and have had to wait to post this one.
My observation in regards to the Lieberman/Lamont debate last night is simple. One can look at the appeal of Joe Lieberman from a person in Connecticut’s perspective and see someone (Lieberman) who is interested in protecting their job (ie sub base/EB/Senator) and/or their security (terrorism). An incumbent Senator would certainly have an advantage in being able to do this. This is pretty basic and appeals to one’s survival instincts- one that the right wing usually is concerned about and where their appeal usually is. A simple description of their motivation is Fear and Greed. Fear of being harmed by terrorists or losing ones job and the Greed of getting that pork project. Don’t get me wrong about either- since it’s important to survive—but there is something else beyond that. That something beyond is the more abstract concepts of Freedom/Liberty/Altruism that make us human rather than just animals.
It’s fitting that this debate happened around the time of the nations 230th birthday. The founding Fathers rose above concern about simple survival and risked their own lives for an ideal that was not based on Fear and Greed. They sought something beyond that and generated the Declaration of Independence and then our Constitution with its Bill of Rights. Ned Lamont represented that in the debate. He was saying that we need to think beyond our immediate needs or concerns and look beyond ourselves to what our higher valves are and fight for those things. If I was only concerned about my immediate welfare and someone said to me- “You have a choice, either you can have your New London Submarine base job or you can give everyone in the US access to affordable health care” – what do you think I would choose? If I raised myself above my own concerns, I could entertain the possibility of helping others and maybe getting a job somewhere else. I may not get that other job, but didn’t the signers of the Declaration run that risk too (death by hanging for example). My job should stand on it’s own merits anyway- not some political lever. The Lieberman/Lamont debate shows us the path between Fear and Greed and something a bit more noble- Principle- a principle that looks beyond our own survival. This is the true battle at hand.
http://www.dailykos.com/commen…..709/66#c66

Colin Powell: “Close Guantanmo now.”

http://blogs.theatlantic.com/a…..o-Now.html -

Okay, dogs. I’m headed for bed. Sleep tight.

Slightly unrelated comment, but the refresh rate is slowing. I was thinking about the GOP agenda, and remembered a former obsessive preoccupation: the drive for a permanent Republican majority. I just did a Google search on the phrase. After accidentally typing “replican” instead of “republican”, I found that the top links were from last year. Is anyone following this more recently?
It connects (in my increasingly paranoid mind) to the election fraud issue and the Loose Change 9/11 theories – but it is more easily nailed down in actual interviews and talking points and provides a good context for looking at the big and real danger our constitution is in these days.

bonus thought: new slogan “It’s Our America” (i.e. – belongs to all of us, not to the corporations, not the administration, not the congress-people currently in power)

Thanks for the absolution TRex.

patience, I like, “Its the entire dishonest process that goes into the fabrication of the rhetoric that she spews. It’s the cribbing of shlock rightist talking points literature and then citing not the literature but unrelated works, not for support but to twist meaning and value of the works cited.”
It may be a little ambitious to go through everything, but anything we can document helps.
I use the imperial “we,” because I’m not in a position to contribute.

Coulter reportedly refused to appear for the CNN segment. During the segment, Todd said: “Coulter’s publicist said she couldn’t appear on camera.”
Somebody finally put that bitch on a short leash huh? Can I still say bitch? I wouldn’t want to offend any sensitive right wing jizz buckets moral superiors.

Great stuff T-Rex as ever.

Markos just posted a late night doozy a few minutes ago: N.H. Phone Jammer – The White House Made Me Do It!

and your little dog, too 118 – good point – Costco may want to know they should send the books back if they want to do a little better than generally commendable.

Heads Up Monterey County, CA – home of at least two Costco’s – Salinas & Seaside -

I wonder how the VandeHeads of the world would react if the authors of Godless were the Dixie Chicks?

FWIW, JMO.
“and the Loose Change 9/11 theories”
We have one commenter at FDL that keeps bringing this one up. IMO, it’s complete bunk and distracts us from the matters at hand. If you have questions about the temperature at which steel melts, happy to give you my opinion.

“to the election fraud issue”
Several commenters bring up Diebold, although not as many as before. No data, but with Rove in charge, everyone is reluctant to “rule it out” until we know for sure.
Most of our efforts appear to be focussed on voter suppression which is also election fraud and getting out the vote in the upcoming midterms.

” – but it is more easily nailed down in actual interviews and talking points and provides a good context for looking at the big and real danger our constitution is in these days.”
This is a major focus at FDL through Jane and Christy’s posts, the assault on the Constitution.”

Had Enough seems to be the popular bumper sticker here.

OT, but… 1995? Can anyone say “genius”?

http://www.gocomics.com/calvin…..995/07/07/

“Is anyone following this more recently?”
~ Aside from the Supreme Court ruling favorably for the Texas redistricting, I havent seen much. But with all the brash lack of ethical posturing on the Republican side, I can honestly say that in between the marginalization of minority voters, and with the Christian Right in their pocket, the Republicans are sure to stay in power…but I am a bit of a pessimist.

ccmask – Whistling Dixie?

John Casper – I tried to be judicious in the reference, saying merely that Loose Change is a theory that I have encountered coming up in discussions of “what are they up to.”

The election fraud issue is on my mind today after hearing an interview with one of the authors of “Was the 2004 Election Stolen?” http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ…..p;n=283155
this morning on the Stephanie Miller show (WTLK, Los Angeles).

And, yes the constitutional issue is big here, just one of the reasons I read FDL.

Possibly oversensitive because it is bed time, but your post read a little bit like “enough out of you”.

I am interested in the PRM issue and in any active discussions relating it specifically to the constitutional threat.

Sorry sp, that was not my intention.
I assumed you were new to the site. I was clearly wrong.
There has been a lot of discussion about R. Kennedy’s Rolling Stone article. A lot of others at FDL understand the issue much better than I.
PRM? Population, Refugees, Migration?
I will catch you on another thread.

totally fine – wondered if it was something like that. PRM = Permanent Republican Majority (in my brain and possibly nowhere else). I might be working up to a more permanent state of de-lurkment these days.
cheers,
good night
sp

sp @ 11:31 pm (#130) – I’ll just echo John Casper’s earlier comment, but explain that, for me, it’s not “enough of you” it’s “enough of that”, at least regarding the “Loose Change” nonsense. We’ve been in several pointless arguments about it, and usually with the same people. The right isn’t the only place you’ll find whackos, I’m afraid.

The Diebold thing is a concern, at least for the future. Whether any elections have been affected by these systems, to me it’s bad enough that at some time in the future they could be.

So, no, it’s really not about you, it’s about the subject matter. I think quite a few of us grit our teeth whenever the phrases “the real 9/11 story” or “Ohio 2004″ come up now. Thanks to previous threads on these subjects, for instance, I personally have found out that I have no courage, I don’t accept new ideas, and my ass is too fat. So, I think we’ve explored just about every avenue of discussion on those topics already.

that seeds clip from Mothers In Law is fantastic.

there is something so fantastic about YouTube that i fear it’s only a matter of time before scumbag RIAA / MPAA lawyers (many of whom, sadly, i know personally) will descend on it the C&Ds and that will be the end of that.

anjinsan @ 11:20 pm (#127) – Sadly, that’s an observation that one could have made ten years before C & H did. It’s the outline of almost every political fundraising letter I’ve received for the past two decades, at least.

Jim in LA @ 11:51 pm (#134) – If I read Donita’s post right today, they’re already working on that. The silly thing is, if those fools just offered reasonable resolution downloads for a reasonable price, people would be downloading them hand over fist. Instead, they play these nonsensical games to try to lock people into their old systems.

Mr./Ms. Moderator. Looks like we need a spam cleanup in aisle 136 lqpsjidpi @ 11:58 pm.

Cujo359 -quibbling – I wasn’t trying to bring up or discuss those issues, I was trying to bring up and discuss the “permanent republican majority” issue as something that is much more concrete and easier to examine than the more radical theories – because there are actual quotes and trails to follow.

ccmask @ 11:12 pm (#125) – (Sorry I didn’t catch this earlier).

I think his reaction would be the same as mine, which is that there must be some law of physics that prevents such a thing from happening.

sp @ 12:01 am (#139) – OK, I misread it, then. Sorry. But as you can see we’re a bit jumpy about the old inenay leveneyay onspiracycay thing.

Like the others, I haven’t noticed much about the PRM recently, but then it seems to have actually happened, doesn’t it? I think the best way to deal with this is to just push from the other direction politically, and to make sure that we have an honest and reliable voting process. The latter is something that most Americans ought to want. You never know, some day those dreaded liberals might be in charge, and we wouldn’t want that to go on forever now, would we?

if those fools just offered reasonable resolution downloads for a reasonable price, people would be downloading them hand over fist.

so much of what is posted on youtube in the form of vintage music video content is already well out of copyright for its primary medium (television) but the scumbag attorneys use derivative copyrights underlying on the music to enforce it.

not only are bands NOT “losing revenue” (which, to the attorneys, means dollars for them and pennies for the bands) from such promotion, but instead people are actually purchasing music legally as a result of the exposure.

it really is that simple.

not everything in this world is designed to be protected by copyright forever. in fact, until Disney fucked everything up with the recent copyright changes, there was a growing movement of preservation and dissemination of old, unseen /unheard content.

now, of course, that’s been bucket-of-watered.

i shouldn’t have to pay to see that Seeds Mothers In Law clip. no one should. period.

Cujoe359,
If we ever take over one of the houses it will take 249 years to dig up all the shit these assholes have done in 6 years.

Jim in LA @ 12:11 am (#142) – For a long time, the idea was that copyrights would be of limited duration (I think it was 25 years). But to tell you the truth, if I knew that the money actually went to the artist, I wouldn’t mind paying a little for a decent download. It’s worth it to have the service and reward the artist. Sadly, that’s not the way it usually works out. The people who seem to make money run the record companies, and the artists, often as not, can’t even get the rights to their music back if the company doesn’t want to put out the records. Janis Ian wrote quite an essay about this a few years ago, it may still be online.

Anyway, it’s a crappy system and we’re locked into it thanks to some really stupid laws.

Bustednuckles @ 12:13 am (#143) – I figure it’s going to take decades to undo the damage they’ve done since Reagan took office, to say nothing of trying to fix the greenhouse gas problem, pay down the national debt, and make things as economically fair as they were in the seventies.

By then, if Canada’s experience is any guide, it will be time to throw the crooks out again.

Cujo359 -
I totally understand “a little bit jumpy” – my boyfriend is a congenital conspiracy nut (he’s moved on from 9/11 to aliens at the point, which is kind of a relief). I agree that the elephant could well be out of the barn already, and with Bustedknuckles’s point that it would take a geologic time span to dig up all that has happened so far.
Given that they are forcing me (against my will) to “get political”, I am trying to learn what I can about what is happening and how, and to try to figure out my best next step.

and, copyright is broken, for certain, though possibly a symptom and not the disease. If you are looking for free stuff with better picture and resolution, I enjoy Google video, which has pretty much everything YouTube has, with no subscription and bigger picture.

Yeah, be nice to ‘dissolve parliament’and start over.

yes, indeed, cujo.

the best thing you can do for older artists is to go see them on tour. that’s where they make virtually all their money.

the only thing more defrauding than hollywood accounting is record industry accounting. the people that run these companies are a nepotistic cabal, vaulted into their positions through family and business patronage.

the sooner they go out of business, the better. digital distribution is indeed the way of the future, direct to consumer from the content creator.

youtube and the rest are just the infancy of this delivery mechanism – we’ll probably see youtube quality for free and pay a quarter to download the DVD version.

and it’ll be worth it. ’cause lawyers won’t be getting paid, nor will their handlers at the top of the record and movie industries.

sp @ 12:22 am (#146) – The copyright system can probably be considered another form of corporate welfare, and in that regard, I agree. The rich seem to feel that unless they’re making as much money as they possibly can, there’s something wrong with the economy. I know that not all rich folks feel that way, but I just want to scream or destroy inanimate objects when I hear about how graduated income taxes and inheritance taxes punish the rich. I’ve been well-to-do and I’ve been poor, and I can tell you from personal experience that it’s a lot more punishing to be poor.

John Casper #126:

Re: Diebold, you said, “No data…” Just curious if you have ever visited Blackboxvoting.org. More data than you can shake a “hanging chad” at.

As just text, hope this doesn’t sound like I’m being a smart-ass, because honestly just trying to help the collective understanding.

ACK!! DarkBlack!!

MY EYES!!

*Grabs wastebasket*

*HURL!*

Oh, please, darkblack. Don’t ever do that to me again!

Darkblack -

I’m sure Ms. Coulter would appreciate your efforts to improve her image, but please, think of the children.

‘And thus, the oppressors of flatulent raccoons, whatever their creed, reveal themselves to the public’s gaze… Their necromancy most foul a marvel to behold’

;>)

Jim in LA @ 12:26 am (#148) – Have you checked out Magnatune? It’s a direct-download site by independent musicians. You can download the stuff for free, and if you like you can download a higher-quality version of the record. They also have several “radio” programs that you can stream, as well.

it’s a lot more punishing to be poor.

Amen to that. I won’t go into why I’m up this late on a Friday and not partying. But what the hey, I usually only get to do drive by’s cause my computer is at work. Which is where my narrow ass is right now. But on my own time.*g*

darkblack,You be a wizard.I don’t get to comment on your work, so my hat is off to you.And the first link? I think you gotta have an I.Q, of over 40 to comprehend evolution.Obviously,genetic mutation is real,she proves that without a doubt.

Bustednuckles @ 12:32 am (#153) – I’ve spent a few late nights in the lab, just surfing or doing something totally unrelated to work. With broadband-diameter Internet tubes, though, that’s not as necessary as it once was.

The Diebold thing is a concern, at least for the future. Whether any elections have been affected by these systems, to me it’s bad enough that at some time in the future they could be.

In the future?

“A computer programmer reveals how he was asked to provide the GOP with some special software that would allow rigging the 2004 election without being detected”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..ch=diebold

And to think, if the republicans would have seen fit to pay this guy the lousy 10k for his work, this wouldn’t be out there.

Tubular,maaannn.

darkblack @ 12:30 am (#151) – I’d say it’s astonishing how many people take that creationism/ID stuff seriously, but it’s really not. Scientific and mathematical skills are so low in this country you could pretty much predict this happening. Rhetorical skills aren’t what they should be, either.

Well Cujo, If it’s you and me, WTF are your thoughts on Can’t well these days? McGavick surely has some Rovian tricks to pull.

Speaking of mutations, I think I’d better get off the Internet before I turn into a puddle of protoplasm.

Goodnight, all.

Well, I see how I rate!

;)

Night all.

Re the last few posts:

Things have been bad before. My dad told me stories. My mom still can. One of my favorites is this:

After Kent State, as the tens of thousands of protest marchers in Seattle filtered back from the US Court House (where scores of Vietnam Vets threw their medals at the blank and abandoned front wall) to our neighborhoods, I worked my way up to my house on Capitol Hill, walking along with friends. Car traffic was totally fucked. The city-wide traffic jam was going into its ninth hour. We laughed as motorists called us “hippies” and “commie pinkos.” We were making better time homeward than they were.

As we got within a few blocks of home, people we knew on Bellevue Street were standing around, asking questions to the passers by. How big was it? Were the cops outrageous? Etc.

Some made observations. My favorite was from Mrs. Byrd, a woman who lived a couple doors down from our place. She was a widow and a decreasingly discreet alcoholic. As I passed her place, I saw her sitting on the porch and went up to sit next to her. She said something like “You part of this, honey?”

“Yeah, Mrs. Bird. I’ve never done a demonstration before, but this one was……”

“Was what, honey?”

“I’m not sure, but this city will never be the same.”

“Don’t count on it, son.”

“Why not, Mrs. Bird?”

” Look. You want to know what I think?” I nodded. She slowly stated “This is a funeral march.”

I replied “Yeah, those kids were just on their way to the next class, and..”

“No, Phil,” she interrupted, “you DON’T understand.” “OK.” I replied.

“This isn’t their funeral march. It’s Nixon’s.”

It took her three more years to be right. By that time Mrs. Bird was dead.

Oh crap. Should learn to hit refresh first. Well, I’m probably going to vote for Tran Hong (or is it Hong Tran?) in the primary, but it looks like the best we can hope for is six more of Cantwell. I haven’t been following McGavick too much lately, so I don’t know how he’s doing. Cantwell was ahead in the only poll I’ve heard of, but they’re still four months from election day. Plenty can go wrong.

This is what we call dead in the water.Guess I’ll surf and get educated on the news. Night.

Ann Coulter is way out of her leauge on this one.

Like so many other dreadful sick souls who cross the line of no return, She has been issued a ticket to the no return party.

Could it have been GOD that stepped in ?

Ed*ard Teller @ 12:46 am (#161) – I remember feeling more hope back then, but I think that wasn’t until the Watergate hearings started. But it was a different time. We’ve had at least as many startling revelations about Little Bush as we had about Nixon, and still there’s no action. It’s hard to stay optimistic.

I really must say goodnight now, but thanks for the story.

Cujo,

I was less optimistic then than I am now, and people like you here and the other doggies are a big part of the reason I’m this way…

And here, gentle readers, is where we can take a page from Karl Rove’s book. From now on, when we refer to Coulter, we will call her, “Ann Coulter, the Republican pundit who faced plagiarism accusations over her last book…”

Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. There was “a lot of discussion” about it. And we all know what that means.

Now you’re suggesting that we be as mean, outrageous, fierce and full of skullduggery as they are in painting our opponents in an unfavorable light.

I like it.

Bustednuckles & Cujo359:

‘Ta’.

Indeed, it’s a shame…A more benevolent government might desire to see the populace educated so as to better serve the human race, as opposed to the malignant ’shoot and loot’ variant that has currently taken root, thriving on ignorance and an unlettered mass marginalised by fear.

well, I escaped relatively unscathed from the front end of a low-key tamer-than-most bachelor party tonight. friend of friend/colleague, six of us all together. turned out to be dinner and a few beverages at an interesting roof terrace resto/bar in SF (medjool). lots of shop talk, but not just that.

I had the convenient excuse of having to catch the BART train to the East Bay. the others were to carry on, who knows where. the groom-to-be had laid down the “no shennanigans” edict and I dare say it was being respected.

As an experienced author and attorney, Ms. Coulter boils small children alive and laughs aloud at their pitiable shrieks of mortal agony and desperate pleas for mercy.”

Okay, okay. I made some of that up. He didn’t actually call her “an experienced author and attorney”.

TRex, abusing blockquotes. So sue him.

http://scienceblogs.com/dispat…..litica.php

FWIW…we’ve now compiled a comprehensive list of all the allegations we’re aware of, with Coulter’s text listed along with the alleged original and the party that first identified the similar passages.

To me personally, some of the examples/accusations seem strained — simply similar statements of the same basic facts. And sometimes there are only so many ways to describe one set of facts. In other cases the similarities of the wording strike me as hard to see as a coincidence. Especially when there seem to be multiple instances of similarities in the same column coming from the same source.

In any case, we’re not making judgments one way or another. But if you’re interested in this story. Here’s the evidence. Make your own judgment.

oops, that was supposed to appear as a quote from TPM, try again.
FWIW, Josh Marshall is ambivalent on Coulter the Molter:

…we’ve now compiled a comprehensive list of all the allegations we’re aware of, with Coulter’s text listed along with the alleged original and the party that first identified the similar passages.

To me personally, some of the examples/accusations seem strained — simply similar statements of the same basic facts. And sometimes there are only so many ways to describe one set of facts. In other cases the similarities of the wording strike me as hard to see as a coincidence. Especially when there seem to be multiple instances of similarities in the same column coming from the same source.

In any case, we’re not making judgments one way or another. But if you’re interested in this story. Here’s the evidence. Make your own judgment.

hello nighties,

i’m wide awake! of course it’s 10:30AM here in germany………
when what to my wondering eyes should appear but the image of the media crack whore herself! a shot of adrenaline if there ever was one…..
i’m still not connected on a regular basis. i have to furtively sneak around to the internet cafes and the occaisional friend’s desktop. it looks like things are in good hands over there across the pond, not that i ever thought it would be otherwise. so, just a wie geht’s ffrom me and over and out.

Out and about in ‘The City” eh? I never had the pleasure of riding Bart.I lived in San Hosee.Commuted on a honda to Frisco and back. No fun.You gonna wake up the cat, or is it alrady chewing on your ankle?

TRex, it’s not that you always outdo yourself each time; it’s that there is the potential for that in every new post – and no matter what, there are always a couple of take-away / keepers:

- this smoldering couch-fire of a story might actually go out before it caught the drapes

- And lo, my children. It may be thus. Always winter, and never Christmas.

have I made my point?

Bustedknucks – I’ve done that Peninsula gig all too often. 280 over 101, hands down. the view down to Crystal Springs reservoir(s). the fog rolling over from Half Moon Bay. back in the 60’s , before the freeway was built, the road was much lower and wound past the Alameda de las Pulgas* water temple.

cat was nonplussed by my arrival.

*Avenue of the fleas. what’s up with that?

Oh yeah,Lived in El Grenada for a spell. I just loved the bike ride when the wind was howling off the ocean.
Nonplussed? Sounds like the beginning of a fragment of a french name for a cat.

BTW, I DO know what nonplussed means.

Nonpuss?

Nonpuss? – heh

Nonpuss Nei

errr – Nonpuss Dei

pumpkin time
*plouf*

Ohhh Shit. Dude, you ARE a funny guy.
NonPuss Is my current state. lol.

Popping back in, It’s almost 3:00 in the morning here, that makes it almost 6:00 in WV. Christy is probably getting up and about. I don’t know how you do it. I’m going to let this one go into EPU land.

Da-da-da-DAAA! Reveille! Good MORNING, all who are Firedoglake, how’s by you?

I’m going to change the focus here for a minute from one who writes po’ly (if at all) to one who writes as well as anybody I know of. Matthew Parris (Times of London) has some thoughts this morning on Blighty’s version of our DC crowd . . .

Trident, Iraq, Helmand: all the wrong paths but carry on anyway, chaps
Matthew Parris

SELDOM HAVE there been finer examples than this July of the propensity of humans and our institutions to reinforce failure. We carry on marching towards what we suspect is the abyss for little better reason than that it would be embarrassing to break ranks. Betrothed to our own doom, we shrink from breaking off the engagement because the wedding ring has been purchased, the deposit on the marquee is non-returnable and the bride’s mother would be devastated.

Here we go again with a revamping of Britain’s Trident missile system. . . .

And here goes the Labour Party towards Gordon Brown as its next leader. . . .

And here we go into another couple of years of being shot at and bombed in Iraq. There’s a paralysing weariness about even debating this any more. Most of the British press haven’t even bothered to report the news that the US military has finally decided to give up trying to control one big, festering sore, Ramadi, and instead to establish a mini-”green-zone” there – climb into it, and stay there. Increasingly the allies’ military effort is devoted to the defence of our own garrisons. Such a posture is sustainable indefinitely. Too much danger attaches to any push to regain the initiative and too much face would be lost by admitting defeat, so we settle into the worst of both worlds – paying tribute each week at Prime Minister’s Questions to this week’s fallen servicemen.

But – hey – drifting up the proverbial creek is not unpleasant. A century and a half ago, Leopold von Ranke, arguably the father of modern historiography, put it like this:

“Neither blindness nor ignorance corrupts people and governments. They soon realise where the path they have taken is leading them. But there is an impulse within them, favoured by their natures and reinforced by their habits, which they do not resist; it continues to propel them forward . . . He who overcomes himself is divine. Most see their ruin before their eyes; but they go on into it.”

Which brings us to Afghanistan. I see that both of last week’s sad British casualties in Afghanistan got a generous personal tribute, by name, from the Prime Minister at Questions on Wednesday. Opposition leaders then felt obliged to echo him. It will be interesting to see whether the most recent death — the sixth soldier now killed there — gets the same treatment at the next PMQs. Are the names of each soldier who falls now to be read out by the Prime Minister? When did the practice start? Will it apply to police officers and firemen too? Would it be horribly cynical to wonder whether Mr Blair has noticed what others have: that whenever he opens his remarks with a solemn tribute to the deceased, he effectively wrong-foots anyone planning to be rude to him? Visitors to the Strangers’ Gallery on Wednesday may have supposed they were witnessing an ancient parliamentary tradition but I think the practice is new: it was certainly never the routine.

And at what, if any, level of British casualties might it be suspended? Ten? Twenty? A hundred? For be sure of this: if Parliament is to have any time at all left for discussion, Mr Speaker had better give some thought to a cut-off point. As Ben Macintyre pointed out on these pages yesterday, the Soviet Union lost 15,000 men in Afghanistan, killing a million Afghans before giving up. Talking to my Ukrainian guide in the Carpathian Mountains a couple of years ago, I discovered he had been in Afghanistan. “Fantastic!” I said.

“Not fantastic,” he replied. Involuntarily his face knotted with something harder than misery: a sort of ferocious loathing. This was as hard-assed, super-fit and daring a fellow as you are likely to meet. Up for anything, Stas was not up for Afghanistan.

In The Times six months ago I tried to explain why the proposed push into Helmand province would prove a mistake. To what Ben wrote about the awful history of British occupation in Afghanistan I can add nothing. Nor, after some modest journeying in Afghanistan 18 months ago, should I set myself up as some kind of old Afghan hand. But within a few days ministers will doubtless be announcing a substantial reinforcement of British forces so — even as (in von Ranke’s words) we go on into our ruin — I shall venture three thoughts.

First, the Russians. It is not appreciated among neoconservatives that what many ordinary Afghans really detested about Soviet rule was the attempt to liberate Afghans – and specifically Afghan women – from a conservative Islamic culture. Let Western liberal interventionists boast about all the girls now attending schools in Afghanistan if they like, but the first liberal-interventionist “rescue” of the oppressed in that country was attempted by the Soviet Union, and the oppressed declined to be rescued.

Secondly, the Taleban. I am not so naive as to miss the fact that a ruthless and organised grouping called the Taleban exists. But around that core is a wider and more pervasive force that is not so much an organisation as a habit of mind and belief. Any Afghan can become Taleban – can slip into or out of the state. Someone I got to know well there was on the edge of it. He was not (yet) hostile to the West, but he hated to see women unveiled, driving cars or laughing in the street; and he hated rule by foreigners. There is a calamitous error at the heart of American thinking: that if you kill a hundred Taleban, there are a hundred fewer. Wrong. There may be two hundred more.

Thirdly, the Conservative Party. With sinking heart I realise that when reinforcements are announced by Des Browne, the Defence Secretary, the only question from Liam Fox, his Tory Shadow, will be whether there shouldn’t be even more. Up the creek the Cameroons [Tories following David Cameron] will go (just as Iain Duncan Smith did over Iraq) until to criticise the deployment in principle will look like a late and hypocritical U-turn. Yet a perfectly Tory way to step aside from this dismal path is available: declare that this is so imponderable a burden that we cannot – should not even begin to – shoulder it alone. We must first secure promises of a matching contribution from all our main European Nato allies. Until then we cannot increase our own troops’ exposure in Afghanistan.

I doubt Dr Fox will say any such thing. Nor will British ministers. Seeing their ruin before their eyes, they will go on into it.

Full column here (reg. req’d but free).

Far as Ann Coulter goes, I’m as glad to see this kind of negative publicity crop up around her book as I was to see the Bill O’Reilly harassment suit surface after he published his ‘advice’ books for kids.I don’t think it’s going to hurt Adam’s Apple Annie too much. Frankly, these folks seem to be teflon coated when it comes to being held to account for their misdeeds. And the contemptible morons who scoop up Annie’s shit with a shovel will dismiss the allegations as part of a ‘liberal conspiracy,’ because it’s easier than getting off their dead asses and learning the facts behind the allegations. But anything that causes that little fascist a headache is a good thing.

Well good mornin’ lotus. I been up all night as it is 4:30 am here. I was going to stay awake and say good mornin’ to Christy but y’all can do it for me.Gonna be lights out for Busted. Hope you get some recipes .And everyone have a beautiful day.

Hi there, Busted and Dawg. Have a great snooze, B, and we’ll catcha later. Dawg, you may be right about that, but I’m looking most to UPS to pull her column if they confirm Barrie’s findings. Dunno. Justin Rood’s list of allegations has some iffy calls in it, seems to me, but some blatant ones too. “Developing …,” as they say.

Meanwhile back in Hartford, the Courant still has its debate coverage up, I see, and the poll now looks like this:

Total responses: 4724

Lieberman: 13.6% (646)

Lamont: 32.2% (1529)

Draw: 2.3% (110)

Didn’t watch: 51.8% (2457)

The longer it stays up, the longer Ned’s lead grows. I like it.

More nedheads 246 appears to be sp*m.

Morning, egregious. Which thread?

Oh, I see what you mean now. Yeah, whoever that is has cropped up 2-3 times recently.

Lotus: I LIKE the concept of drifting UP the proverbial creek. Hmm. Seems to me the only time you drift up a creek is on a rising tide. Now THAT’s a scarey concept, that the war mongers are riding a RISING tide. I can’t believe that ANYONE ANYWHERE would be seriously thinking about expanding the wars, but ignorance is bliss and obviously I live in La-La Land.

Coulter thrives on the attention – whether it be positive or negative. She always has. Whenever she feels she is becoming irrelevant, she makes some wild, baseless and/or racist statement to get herself back in the spotlight and on every news channel, including Fox, Fox and Fox (maybe she should be a flatulent fox?).

She is the perfect Rovian tool because she plays directly to the GOP base — the uneducated that believe everything the Rove machine spews forth.

As much as I hope this takes her down, I have a feeling it won’t.

I was hoping the voter fraud issue would take her down and maybe earn her a stay in prison for a little while. Somehow, I think she will slither out of that one too.

Hi, Chrissie. I took it to mean “up that creek where you’ll find no paddle.”

OT – according to CNNtv, the U.S. has sent our best guided missile cruiser to the sea of japan. No doubt for some texas style diplomacy.

Ahh, twolf1, quelle surprise, no?

good morning all — I am trying to get a little time to “pull up my chair” toady — I am very busy with beautiful weather, the family, and an interesting little non-criminal matter I am consulting on, but it is always SO great to join everyone. I will be offering my very traditional (and simple) vodka sauce for pasta and seafood. It is soooooo good.

lotus – i think the surprise was that it didn’t happen years ago. Chimpy’s motto: Talk unintelligibly and carry a big stick

Ah, The Guardian has a treat for Mary and us other Scheuer fans:

Agent who led Bin Laden hunt criticises CIA

· Closure of unit ‘wasted 10 years’ experience’
· Al-Qaida reasserting its influence, says ex-chief

Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington
Saturday July 8, 2006
The Guardian

The man who led America’s hunt for Osama bin Laden has said the CIA was wrong to disband the only unit devoted entirely to the terrorist leader’s pursuit – just at a time when al-Qaida is reasserting its influence over global jihad.
Shutting down the Bin Laden unit squandered 10 years of expertise in the war on terror, said Michael Scheuer, who founded the unit in 1995 and arguably knows more about Bin Laden than any other western intelligence official. He believes the unit was dismantled because of bureaucratic jealousies within the CIA, and that the closure delivers a further setback to a pursuit that has been squeezed for resources for the past two years.

“What it robs you of is a critical mass of officers who have been working on this together for a decade,” he told the Guardian. “We had a breed of specialists rare in an intelligence community that prides itself on generalists. It provided a base from which to build a cadre of people specialising in attacking Sunni extremist operations, who sacrificed promotions and other emoluments in their employment in the clandestine service, where specialists were looked on as nerds.”

[much more]

In full here.

A gracious good morning to you, imm.

Yes, twolf1, he has only that one trick.

I wonder how long it will be before we make a peeance freeance North Korea?

I’m going to quote more from the Scheuer interview. Note his accord with Matthew Parris:

“Bin Laden has always said the main activity of al-Qaida is the instigation … of Muslims to jihad,” Mr Scheuer said.

“All of the people who have been picked up have said they were inspired by Bin Laden, that they trained in their own countries and used information picked up on the internet.

“So the fire that Bin Laden was trying to set is what we are beginning to see around the world and, unfortunately, nowhere more than in the west.”

He said the dismantling of the unit reflected a myopia in an intelligence community uncomfortable with the independence of the CIA agents who championed Bin Laden’s pursuit.

“From the very beginning, Alec was an anomaly in that it was not subordinated to any area division, and it was given the authority to communicate with overseas stations – with or without the permission of area divisions. That caused a great deal of heartburn among very senior leaders at the agency,” he said.

The infighting went on for years. In 1998, a few months before car bombs blew up US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, Mr Scheuer was told to be ready to disband – only to see the unit saved by the then agency director, George Tenet.

But it was only a temporary reprieve. The staff was reduced from 25 to eight. More recently, the unit became a repository for inexperienced officers, who were rotated in for 60- or 90-day stints.

During the past two years the hunt for Bin Laden came second to fighting the insurgency in Iraq. With the worsening security situation in Afghanistan, more intelligence resources are being diverted towards propping up the government of Hamid Karzai in Kabul than to tracking down leads on Bin Laden.

The Bush administration continues to claim success in the fight against al-Qaida, noting that it has killed off two-thirds of its known leadership at the time of the September 11 2001 terror attacks.

But as Mr Scheuer notes, al-Qaida seems to have no difficulty in replacing its senior leaders. A decade after he first began keeping tabs on Bin Laden, he continues to be surprised by al-Qaida’s resilience.

“I don’t think anyone could have expected to see the success of such an organisation,” he said. For observers familiar with the disunity of the Palestinians and other Arab causes, al-Qaida was a departure from the known.

“One of the things that really slowed down the western response to Sunni extremists, but al-Qaida specifically, is that when intelligence agents looked at a group made up of Yemenis, Egyptians, Saudis, Algerians and converts, the natural response was to say, ‘That is not going to last 10 minutes. They can’t get along together.’ It took a long time for people to realise we were seeing an animal of a very unique nature. We haven’t even begun to understand where our enemy is coming from.”

…and another thing. How come chimpy can get away with saying “we have a missile defense system… a modest one?” without being questioned about it?

I may have to put on cartoons, the news is bringing me down today.

Good morning, each and every one.

Post-debate moments thread 189 seems also to be sp*m. I’m gonna go back and see if someone’s routinely putting this graffiti on the end of each thread.

Put on some music too, twolf1? (instrumental — don’t risk lyrics)

terre 40

that’s great. can’t stop giggling

THERE’s our tommy! Hi there, bro!

Maybe i’ll hit the bottle too ;)

goin’ for the 2d cuppa–x o lotus!

Ayup, iraq for sale at 228, next to last also sp*m. Back out for more hunting.

Me too, and do I need it. Gotta clear these cobwebs and come up with a recipe.

Spin thread: sp*m at 176. Same graffiti guy. Can he just be blocked?

i’m gonna hang w/fam too.

nice to see you all.

Schadenfreude-flavored frozen custard? It should come with a Surgeon General’s warning about possible choking on neocon nuts and chunks of adams apples.

I admire you, Rude Pundit and others who can actually wade through Coulter’s writings and video appearances. I just cannot do it.

Religions thread has sp*m at 245. You guessed it, the same guy. Thorough, ain’t he?

That IS a funny picture Terre @40. They may be watching Frist “practice his love” on some cats.

Enjoy your day, tommy.

egregious, I think I’ve seen that letter-salad on three recent threads. Seems kinda harmless, but what do I know?

CNN crawl has the AC story credited to AP now.

arg, why do i always seem to come here when there are nothing but monster threads? but i’ll assume we’re mostly off topic at this point; coulter is a liar and i’m glad to see the progress being made. run, lil tranny, run!

i offer up this post about sex, democratic strategy for the fall, sex, and having fun while being active in the party. also, i talk about sex.

yes, i am a shameless blogwhore.

chicago dyke, yesterday Christy was wishing you were on to confer about something of mutual interest to you both — sorry, too befogged to recall what that was now.

This is from a diary by Redfish over at Dkos. It is a really great Saturday morning read. Pour yourself a cup of java and settle down for a very long story.

Best dog story in the history of the world
The Legend
from Batfishing in the Rainforest by Randy Wayne White
copyright 1991 – The Lyons Press

Once, visiting the Key West docks, I struck up a conversation with a shrimper, a true Conch, which is to say he talked through his nose and wore white rubber boots. When I told him where I lived—a coastal town more than 400 miles away by highway he said, “Hey now, you ever heared about that dog what they got up there?”

“Dog?”

“Yeah, that there dog. Dog can swim underwater and bring up cement blocks. Whole ones, from 15 feet a water, then swim them back to shore.

http://www.dailykos.com/commen…..4780/37#37

egregious: thank you for pointing out all those very odd spams — they are all gone now! It is impossible to filter those since they seem to have no discernable pattern, or for that matter, point. Everything about them keeps changing. They all hit around midnight , Pacific time …

Once again, thanks !

which thread, lotus? i’ll go read it if you can recall.

Christy is likely to appear here any moment now for the first posting of the day about vegetarian fruits and nuts …

soup to nuts…

*ilson, no common IP address?

Ann Coulter is to informed respectful comment what a professional wrestler is to Olympic sport. Her schtick is to be as outrageous as Hulk Hogan, appealing to the knuckledraggers that are her readers.
What will eventually happen is that people will be embarrassed to be seen with a copy of her book. Go ahead, ridicule one of her readers. It is easy, fun and somewhat empowering!

not even a common IP address ! mysterious, eh?
the only commonality is a single structure filled with varying gibberish

found it, lotus. it’s the religion thread, i left a comment if i’m not here and christy wants to know the answer to her question.

Sorry to keep you waiting, chicago dyke (I was caught up in the story ccmask recommended). I think it may have been Peterr’s science-&-religion post … somewhere middle or later in the thread. Christy will remember.

ccmask — thank you for that wonderful tale!

Pull up your chair — new thread!

http://www.WhoIsJoeLieberman.com

IP 24.254.239.5

Thing is, she will eventually become toxic through a combination of too many accusations and too much carelessness. Then they will abandon her too.

ccmask @ 223:

YES. This story is WELL worth taking time to read! I found another copy – the original? — here.

Not that it matters to people who would actually buy this lump of dead tree compost,but I took some post its,wrote down some of the more blatant and easily debunked lies from Coulter(and the url for Media Matters) and placed them inside the books I’ve seen at the grocery stores where I shop.

I’ve also written,more than once to the buyers for these stores.I did notice that The Weather Makers has appeared in these same stores fairly recently,one store has put out copies of Suskind’s newest.I don’t know if my letters had an effect,maybe other people have done the same and the buyers listened.

Hey JoyB Thanks for the link. I’m glad you guys enjoyed it. A great tale for sitting in front of the fire dog lake.

Three young men gave their lives in Iraq
today. What sensible human being gives
a rats ass about this sociopathic asshole!

I’m sure this is EPU’ed already but I haven’t seen an answer yet: When does it stop being plagarism and start being violation of copyright? Is there a clear, bright line, or is it all kinda fuzzy and smeary? What happens when the copyright owners sue alleged plagarist Ann and her publishers for stealing their material, and Ann loses?

Pulling her book is one thing. All it takes is one big conviction and the damages will bankrupt her. So how do we make sure that it happens?

How ’bout shortening to “accused plagiarist”? To paraphrase and plagiarize Horatio Hornblower, “She’s not worth the ink”.

Sounds like plagiarism is endemic among nut-wing “authors.” Excuse me if I do a little snoopy dance. I hope she and her “book” tank in a flaming heap of sh*t. Maybe Michelle Malkin will start lecturing Coulter.

Sources? I thought she just made the whole thing up…