
Lately, David Broder has gotten some flack for some condescending comments about bloggers and other out-of-touch sentiments in recent columns. But I am a firm believer in giving credit where it is due.
Today, David Broder writes a fantastic op-ed column in the WaPo about the Hamdan decision, and its ripples out into the need for oversight by Congress on a variety of issues, that is spot on — and I wanted to take a little time to pass out some carrots to the Dean of Washington journalists. Broder writes:
…Once again the chief executive had to be reminded that he is not above the law. No more than the security threats Nixon invented to justify his rogue police state operations will the war on terrorism relieve the president of the burden imposed by the Constitution to "faithfully execute the laws." He can’t just make them up to suit his convenience.
For anyone who was worried that the United States was in danger of losing its precious freedoms as it mobilized to combat the threat of Islamic terrorism, the Stevens opinion was the best possible Independence Day gift….
I am delighted that Republican congressional leaders say they hope to turn the ruling to their advantage by engaging the Democrats in a lively debate about the president’s counterterrorism strategy. That debate is long overdue. In the first reaction to the Sept. 11 attacks, Congress gave Bush broadly worded authority to protect the country and strike back at the terrorists. After that it paid little attention for the next four years to the way that authority was being used — and how the administration assumed additional powers.
Amen. It is well past time for the Congress of the United States to stand up and do its duty under the Constitution and to uphold the rule of law. And it is high time that the Democratic Party, as well as any principled members of the Republican Party who value their nation’s honor over a short-term power grab, stood up and said, "Enough!"
Broder refers to the July 3, 2006, issue of the New Yorker, in which Jane Mayer’s article about Dick Cheney, David Addington and their "unitary executive" machinations are detailed. I’m working on something more about this for tomorrow, I hope, but suffice it to say the article is exceptionally well done and researched, and so infuriating that I threw the magazine across the room yesterday while I was trying to read it and take notes.
But back to David Broder, who further says that:
As Stevens put it, Salim Ahmed Hamdan, the Guantanamo detainee, may be "a dangerous individual whose beliefs, if acted upon, would cause great harm and even death to innocent civilians . . . but in undertaking to try Hamdan and subject him to criminal prosecution, the executive is bound to comply with the rule of law that prevails in this jurisdiction."
There is no reason for Democrats in Congress to fear the coming debate. They need not feel embarrassed about affirming that Stevens’s decision is correct and finding ways to legislate the needed rules for handling these detainees. Far from being defensive, Democrats could challenge the Republican majority to take the opportunity to examine all that Bush is doing — or not doing — to counter al-Qaeda and other threats to national security.
Congress is coming late to this task, but it is not too late to make our laws and our practices conform to the Constitution. And to remind this president that the law applies to him, too. (emphasis mine)
The fact that any of this needed to be said at all is beyond appalling when, after all, these elected representatives all swear an oath to uphold and protect the Constitution in the performance of their duties. But it did need saying, and I am thankful today that David Broder laid it out in such plain and unambigious terms.
So, I’d like it if everyone could take a moment to send a thank you note to David Broder. He’s earned it, and is likely hearing nasty invectives about his patriotism (or lack thereof) from angry wingnuts. He oughtn’t just hear invective — especially when he’s penned such a needed patriotic missive that might — just might — get through a few thick-skulled Democrats who need a boost to their spines. Broder can be reached at davidbroder@washpost.com.
(Hat tip to reader lotus for bringing this one to my attention earlier.)
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Fitz!
FITZ! and NED!!
This administration is a parallel to the Third Reich.
Are they the Fourth Reich?
I am not looking forward to reading that 1700 page book.
Oh……wait a minute……I am living in this hell!
Mr. Kaiser took my question this morning and linked to Mr. Broder’s piece.
>>>>>>>>>>
New Hampshire: Mr. Kaiser, thank you for taking my question.
I was pleased with the SCOTUS decision re: Hamdan and wonder if you think that the Republican controlled Congress will roll over for the administration yet again or follow the rule of law as embodied in the Constitution and in the many Conventions we are signatory to? I have been appalled at the lack of oversight in this Congress with regard to NSA wiretapping, torture, rampant fraud and abuse in military contracting, etc. and their seeming blind trust in the Unitary Executive.
Robert G. Kaiser: Here’s the URL for a good column by David Broder from this morning’s paper.
This is a big test for Congress. I agree with you that oversight has been woeful, and not just on the issues you mention, but on really most of the big problems we face.
Finally, a Broder post in which I don’t need to leap to his defense!
Just keep the stick handy, I’m sure you’ll need it before long.
sent !
carrots for Broder; stick it to Boxer
MORA!
I know I’m late – but in honor of Mayer.
heee mommybrain at 5 — I thought this would be one you’d like. *g*
Bugs Bunny!
And I have to say, the pix of the guy dancing in the carrot costume just cracked me up. hehehehe Had to share it with everyone. I’ve been saving it for a while, and finally found a column for which it could be used. Yay!
BTW – is it true that the new Superman movie is going to just have him standing for “truth & justice?”
No – “American Way?”
EUP’d below – the Laurz Rozen companion pieces on the SISMI arrests in Italy – good stuff.
From the Declaration of Independence, concerning grievances against the previous King George, this especially jumped out at me:
Our local DC news station, in their story about the annual 4th of July reading of the Declaration at the National Archives, happened to choose this as their soundbite. The station overall tends to be relatively nonpolitical (though prone to echoing the administration’s fearmongering), so this could have been a fluke, but I like to think that some editor consciously decided to slip it in.
what’s that sound? oh, must be the other journalists gagging on their cocktail weenies.
On today’s Fresh Air, Terry Gross interviews Geoff Nunberg — the first half he discusses how the word “Liberal” became an invective for the right wing; after the break, he dicusses what the Dems have done wrong (bad word smithing
is the least of it) and how we lack a coherent self image and a convincing narrative.
http://www.npr.org/templates/r…..p?prgId=13
‘Talking Right’: Why the Left Is Losing, Linguistically
http://www.npr.org/templates/s…..Id=5536444
In his new book, Talking Right, linguist Geoff Nunberg examines the parlance of the American political right. Conservatives, Nunberg notes, have been remarkably effective at creating a language through which to convey their agenda.
I just sent Mr. Broder a thank you. Thanks to you also for bringing his piece to my attention.
Kaiser’s brother Charlie is tons of fun and ONE FABULOUS BABE!
I usually enjoy reading David Broder but his recent blatherings about bloggers has got my underwear in a bunch. I think when the Beltway Buffers like Broder start doing their gotdamn jobs I will pass the GoodOnYa’s around for them. Until then, I am not gonna encourage these tools for simply doing their job.
Broder’s piece makes way too much sense for the WaPo-I am just going to have to turn him in to Deborah Howell.
at a recent County Democratic Convention, a candidate had somebody dressed in a carrot suit (”Root, root for Fatout”) — I empathized with the volunteer telling of the time I wore a dress to a gay political meeting — it was manipulative but our group won the vote!
I am delighted. I keep saying, do not underestimate the power of this body of water to set the tone and drive the debate.
Our goddesses and all here should be justifiably proud. The MSM is beginning to adopt our talking points, our language, our insights.
We are empowering them. Helping them to rise up from lapdogs (nice how nick kristoff adopted our term in his op ed piece ht eother day? huh? I saw that!)status and return to being the constitutionaly significant 4th estate.
It will not be a smooth upward arc. It will be a zig zag pattern with setbacks and disappointmnets. But as long as it zig zags upward, I’m cool.
First I started hearing familiar words being repeated from here to conversations among opnion makers in my local. Now we start to see some of that coming from the MSM — and nice to see it coming from some of the brighter MSMers.
Soon, you will start to see it coming from the mouths of candiadtes and electeds.
You/we/all of us are starting to have an effect!
Huzzah
Richard at 17 — You are more than welcome. I try to highlight some good journalism when I see it — because the good writing, analysis and investigative work needs much more support from all of us. From what I am hearing from a lot of folks, the journalists who are doing great work out there are not always getting the support they ought to get from their editorial folks, so I try to kick in where I can if I find something especially good. This Broder column was very well written, spare and lean, and right to the point — bravo to him.
*ilson – with your carrot-top and all…
Sent a Kudos to Mr. Broder!
Perhaps these will serve to keep him awake. *g*
Hi Christy -
Thanks for the dancing carrot pics! Just what the clinic needed this morning….
Wow – you’ve helped fix my baking and my mood – what would I do without fdl?
Here’s the irony. What Broder says has been said again and again in the liberal blogs, including this one, and yet it takes an old Washington Press Dog like Broder and a money-drenched rag like WaPo to give the same message a bigger sounding board. Well, that’s OK, but that means there is a huge gap between the inquiring minds that are keeping these issues alive and the annointed minions of the press, who for all we know, are getting their ideas from the blogs. Hooha.
Just to clarify, todat’s one example of Broder doing his job is not a healthy pattern deserving of recognition is all I am saying. Let’s pass out kudos after he’s nailed the Cheney Administration a few dozen more times before we give em a hand for doing what they get paid to do. Murray Waas and Seymour Hersch get my bravuras for the time being, they “get it”.
Does this fall under the blind sqruirrel doctrrine?
Sorry to be off subject here, but this is a just in email I got from B. Boxer. This is her PAC asking for support for the following demo challengers in 2006 NO LIEBERMAN ON THE LIST?
NO LAMONT EITHER???????
Democratic Challenger
GOP Incumbent
Jim Pederson (AZ) vs. Jon Kyl
Jean Hay Bright (ME)
vs. Olympia Snowe
Amy Klobuchar (MN) Open Seat (Mark Dayton)
Erik Fleming (MS) vs. Trent Lott
Claire McCaskill (MO) vs. Jim Talent
Jon Tester (MT) vs. Conrad Burns
Jack Carter (NV) vs. John Ensign
Sherrod Brown (OH) vs. Mike DeWine
Bob Casey (PA) vs. Rick Santorum
Sheldon Whitehouse (RI) vs. Lincoln Chafee
Harold Ford (TN) Open Seat (Bill Frist)
Barbara Ann Radnofsky (TX) vs. Kay Bailey Hutchison
Pete Ashdown (UT) vs. Orrin Hatch
Bernie Sanders (VT) Open Seat (Jim Jeffords)
Jim Webb (VA) vs. George Felix Allen
Dale Groutage (WY) vs. Craig Thomas
Mission Accomplished Christy.
OT: Dadhusker at 11:10
LMAO.
Wonderful carrot and gaucherie below.
Fini — it’s fine, no one is forcing anyone to send a thanks. But all I was saying was this column is well done, and he’s going to get a lot of wingnut pushback for it — because god forbid anyone should tell the truth in print, so I thought some thank yous from our end of the spectrum would be a nice gesture since, you know, he did a nice job. Perhaps its the Southern manners in me, but it seemed like the thing to do. ;-)
O/T, but amusing. Delay to remain on ballot, judge rules;
http://www.chron.com/disp/stor…..28453.html
And congrats to lhp too on the election fraud project.
It’s weird world when either – much less both- parties in Congress see supporting truth and law as a “losing” proposition.
But I guess that’s just my rvl ideological purity showing through.
I need to stop wearing white pants.
Dolly Lanna at 30 — Boxer’s PAC isn’t the only listing of candidates that she is supporting. It’s just a listing of where money donated to that specific PAC is supposed to be directed. (Although she doesn’t have just one PAC, either…) Just FYI.
lhp — I meant to tell you that if you are interested in getting in touch with the lead attorney who was working for Kerry in OH, I could put you in touch with him. Just let me know…
Fini, I appreciate your sentiments, but I would invite you to consider that you are only driving them more deeply into the arms of the neocons.
rwcole posted excerpts from the Cook Report on the prior thread. We need all the help we can get. One of the problems is that neocons so dominate the newsrooms. When Feingold gave his censure speech, he made it clear that we all expect Bush to “wiretap” terrorists. TM took this and said Feingold didn’t support the WAR on Terror.
Update at DKos:
Sent.
And a reminder to others:
Write thanks to David Broder for his column here.
Sen. Biden: “I’ve Had A Great Relationship [With Indians]… You Cannot Go To A 7-Eleven Or A Dunkin Donuts Unless You Have A Slight Indian Accent”… http://video.nationaljournal.c…..Indian.mov
Incroyable !
Broder writing this doesn’t mean anything…yet. Sure, kudos to Broder for saying it (the obvious, which we have all been stating for years…nice of Broder to catch up) but it doesn’t mean anything until Congress actually acts. Acts in something other than rubberstamp fashion. Acts in a manner more in tune with the Constitution and Bill of Rights as they have been understood and meant for 230 years rather than as interpreted lately for convenience.
It makes me so happy that FDL and one of my long-time idols are back in sync (at least on this one).
Um, Christy, Mary, lhp, imm, other legal beagles, risking a swat, I call your attention to Leopold’s latest, quite specific report:
Much interest in your reactions, natch.
Thanks punaise, as someone pointed out earlier, I had heard that Pryor, D-AR was with Salazar and Nelson. I hope Kos is correct. Obviously this situnation appears to be very fluid.
Anyone ever see the video Alex Jones (of prisonplanet.com) buttonhole Broder on the street about Bohemian Grove?
He got very angry with Mr. Jones after he boasted of secretly filming the bizarre goings-on in there. It was creepy.
Oh, for the love of God, don’t write a letter of praise to David Broder. Tell him instead what a self-parody he’s become, how he should have retired ten years ago with his reputation still intact, but that a stopped clock is right twice a day and you’re glad that, for once, he got something right.
DOLLY LANA #30 – Are any of those in primary runoffs? She might be waiting for those to resolve for the PAC solicitations…
http://politicalwire.com/archi…..erman.html
Hi Mary,
I was looking yesterday at Bush’s signing statement on McCain’s Anti-Torture Amendment. Were you aware that McCain’s Amendment and what I believe is called the Detainee Treatment Act are following sections in the larger Defense bills:
S.1042 National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2006
and
H.R.2863: Making appropriations for the Department of Defense for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2006, and for other purposes.
Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2006
Bush’s signing statement references this last. Conceptually, I can see why they would occur together. In terms of content, I can only see their juxtaposition as ironic.
Lieberman faces a high-stakes TV debate
snip…
The one-hour face-off will be simulcast live on MSNBC Cable and MSNBC.com, and in Connecticut on NBC affiliate WVIT in Hartford.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13725231/
Sen. Biden: “I’ve Had A Great Relationship [With Indians] . . . You Cannot Go To A 7-Eleven Or A Dunkin Donuts Unless You Have A Slight Indian Accent” . . . http://video.nationaljournal.c…..Indian.mov
And y’all can’t go to a shoeshine stand in DC without shinin’ up to the darkies, and if you go to a TexMex restaurant in California you better fake a little espanyol accento to fit right in there.
Specially if you’re running for President and want to be seen as the generous whitie that you really are.
Christy @ 33 I appreciate what you’re saying, and maybe I am being overly cranky today but Broder drives me crazy sometimes. I generally agree that we should be supportive when WATB’s like Broder have their occasional come to Jesus epiphanies like today’s, but all I am saying is I would like to see more of the same before I send attaboys his way. If he was headed into the arms of the neocons its because like a roach drawn to warmth he likes the arms that envelope him and any poo we monkeys in the blogosphere fling at him is expected in his myopic view of the world of blogging.
Lotus – I don’t think there is anything new in that. Fitz didn’t state that Libby was the first admin person to reveal Plame’s identity, only that he was the first admin person known to have done so at the time of the indictment. Libby’s lawyers in fact tried to make hey with this issue earlier in their (cough cough bullshit) motions.
And, most importantly, it has NOTHING to do with the charges against Scooter. He is charged with lying (in various forms) about what he said and disclosed, independent of anything anyone else may have done or the meaning of the outing of Plame.
But, I am not a Plame detail kind of universe, so others may have a different view.
Admittedly, I don’t follow
Totally OT, but I just wanted to say that my FDL t-shirt arrived yesterday, and I can’t wait to wear it to the gym (got my tote bag, too – can never have enough of those!). *g*
I know how you feel about the Mayer article. Thinking about Addington and Cheney and all the damage they’ve done, after reading the article, has left me boiling for days, even though my outrage meter has already been off the scale for years now.
Mary — yes. Superman quotes himself, but doesn’t finish the quote. The viewer does. It’s still there, but implicit.
Christy, egregious — sending you guys a calendar. I broke the stem on my watch trying to keep up with you two. ;)
Re gay marriage: previous comments have noted the two state high courts that voted against bans on gay marriage, in Georgia and New York:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00544.html
. . . but in Massachusetts, a broad coalition of public officials, many of them Catholic, came out with a statement asking the Legislature to leave alone the current MA Supreme Court holding allowing gay marriage in this state.
http://www.boston.com/news/spe….._marriage/
That’s the good news. That worst news, outside Iraq, etc., for those who missed it, is reported over at Glenn Greenwald, wrt to the implicit threats now being directed at NYT reporters and editors. This is getting nastier and more alarming by the day, and I think it’s important we take every opportunity to denounce this thuggery and other attacks on a free press.
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot…..html#links
I love the picture. My real name sounds something like carrot and when I was a kid I made a carrot costume out of wire, paper mache, and a green feather on top. I couldn’t bend like that, though.
Right, EPU, it doesn’t directly tend to dis/prove the charges that Dread Pirate Irving faces — it’s just more intersting JudyJudyJudy grist.
lhp –
In 2001, I worked with Paul Lukasiak on tracking down the Rove/Bush connections to the Florida Voter Purge. It got derailed after 9/11, but Tom Feeney was the bag man in the Florida Legislature. (see Clint Curtis at the Brad Blog) The same scheme had been attempted and foiled in Texas, in 1982. Another Texas Governor, another Rove client.
One of the interesting studies I found while researching was by Rachel Berry, a JD candidate as Washington and Lee University. It was moved behind the firewall at Find Law, but is still available via the Wayback Machine.
DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE V. EDWARD J. ROLLINS:
POLITICS AS USUAL OR UNUSUAL POLITICS?
http://web.archive.org/web/200…../Berry.htm
The Texas Blueprint for the Stolen Election
http://democrats.com/blueprint
I thought leopold and ash were going to leave the Plameology up to the professionals…
In my comment at 56, I meant “voted against removing bans on gay marriage . . .” Sorry.
ck -
Were any corporations complicit in the purge?
Was the quality of the data obtained from them poor?
Oops brain-fart alert (#45). It was David Gergen, not Broder, and I will shut up now. ;)
new thread deja
And christy, I agree 100% with the idea of rewarding good columns, such as Broder’s today. Positive reenforcement has an effect. Besides, it’s good for the soul to say something nice to someone — and it balances off (almost) the two complaints i sent to Hardball/MSNBC for the Melanie Morgan appearances and the mugging that Noron did on Sheehan last night. That was ugly, and I wasn’t my usual kind self.
while I like what this post has to say, I think it misses the more important points that need to be addressed if the democrats are to look forward to this debate
what needs to be pointed out is the FACT that the president claimed he could make up any law he wanted, even after the action took place, and then charge someone with the crime he just invented
that the victim would not be told what crime he was held for
that the lawyer would not be told what crime to defend
that no evidence would need to be presented
that the lawyetr wouldn’t be present at trial
that’s what needs to be broached in the debate
orangejumpsuit–that you in the photo?
thanks Christy. i sent a note along. can’t wait to read all the bits after the debate tonight…
Hi Hugh – I did know the “McCain Amendment” was tacked on to a DOD appropriations bill. Giving McCain credit for the positive aspects of the amendment, it did make it really hard for the President to veto after the bill made it through committee with the amendment. I don’t know all the mechanics, but I remember the Admin was very unhappy at the time about being bit outmaneuverd on that front.
OTOH, Graham covered their back for them as much as possible with some of the “sounds like amnest” interrogation language and the jurisdiction stripping maneuver.
I’d say it’s hard to argue much inherent validity in the signing statements after Hamdan. We’ll see.
Thanks all to the wonderful crew and family here .
We have been taking a nice holiday this week out here in the great wide open, but this bag full of ammo has come to our attention so we thought we would share.
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0705-23.htm
T-
Database Technologies (DBT) of Boca Raton got the Voter List contract; they bid $30k, but “a little birdie” in the Florida SoS office told them to raise the bid to $4 million. GOP corporate values at work.
DBT was aquired by Choice Point, who warned Florida Election Officials that the database search parameters would create a large number of false positives. They were explicitly told to generate the false positive lists.
Short Answer — corporations were involved, but the crimes were commited by Jeb Bush loyalists in the Florida State Government.
new thread
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..d-barbara/
lotus – Am very touched by your steadfast faith in Broder for Hutch greatly admired his work as well. I’m not sure what to think about him but join your applause for his words today.
Too bad our incoherent Smirker-in-Chief’s ADD prevents him from reading grown up words here, there and everywhere.
Sorry to foist my despair upon the lake but I made the mistake of watching his live press conference with the bi-ligual Canadian awhile ago. Mon dieu!
Gonna don my bartcop Worst President Ever tee and take my pooch to the beach to clear my head before the Ted-Joe debate.
I sent Broder a nice email.
Thanks for heads up . Mark me down as a SENT the link made very easy helps us old timers.
That was a glimmer of hope!! Sent him a short note…
Your words were very well chosen, and I hope that they will smash the Kevlar veneer of faux patriotism that support for Bush’s every deed seems to cower behind.
Thank you for using your wisdom in such a constructive manner!!
Best,
Styve
Sorry, no. I will not write to Broder. IF he keeps it up, I will. But one good article, after years (decades?) of lies and trash? Nope.
I sent a thanks even though I agree with so many voices here that Broder shouldn’t be applauded for doing his damn job.
But, I am trying my best for a new Independence Day Freedom for myself – not taking myself so fucking seriously.
Maybe next 4th of July I will attempt to free myself from my fucking trash mouth.
e-mail below just went to David Broder:
********************************
Way to go, Mr. Broder. Your column on the Stevens decision was spot on, and for the first time in longer than I care to remember, you have really stretched and have written a tough, muscular smack down of an administration run amok. Please keep it up – we are desperate to have the press awaken from its half-decade slumber. Our nation is in great danger from within
Christy–
Way OT, but WNYC.org offers podcasts of the Brian Lehrer show. I just downloaded the segment you were on yesterday. Hi Fidelity, too!
Keep after it. You guys are changing the game. And wherever me3 is, a tip of the cap…
I sent Mr. Broder a thank you. Thanks for the suggestion.
The Supreme Court’s ruling in the Hamdan case wasn’t merely a defeat for the Bush administration’s system of military tribunals for the detainees at Guantanamo Bay. As ThinkProgress describes, the majority’s explicit rejection of broad presidential powers claimed by the White House to be inherent in the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) also imperils Bush’s dubious arguments for the illegal NSA domestic spying program.
For the story, see:
“Hamdan Deals Blow to Bush Domestic Spying.”
I just sent Broder a message thanking him for the Hamdan piece. I agree that we have to give credit where it is due and that article certainly qualifies!
I agree too to give credit when due, but what clinched it for me was Christy saying Broder will probably get flack from the wingnuts. I just emailed thanking him for his op-ed today.