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	<title>Comments on: Holy Joe:  Screwing The Party, One Democrat At a Time</title>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/05/holy-joe-screwing-the-party-once-again/#comment-175359</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 13:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;woohoo Rayne (166), you rock. It’s a litany that makes my teeth grind so badly I can barely pry them apart: Alito, prescription drugs, social security, bankruptcy, oil, Iraq . . .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>woohoo Rayne (166), you rock. It’s a litany that makes my teeth grind so badly I can barely pry them apart: Alito, prescription drugs, social security, bankruptcy, oil, Iraq . . .</p>
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		<title>By: bob h</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/05/holy-joe-screwing-the-party-once-again/#comment-175292</link>
		<dc:creator>bob h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 11:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Every Democratic household is getting calls or visits from Lamont or Lieberman.  They are provoked and energized about this election, and this will benefit Farrell and Courtney.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every Democratic household is getting calls or visits from Lamont or Lieberman.  They are provoked and energized about this election, and this will benefit Farrell and Courtney.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawesdawg</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/05/holy-joe-screwing-the-party-once-again/#comment-174386</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawesdawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe my calculus is wrong here, but if Lieberman and Lamont are BOTH on the ballot in November, wouldn’t that benefit Democrats?  Both Lamont and Lieberman supporters would drive up voting interest among left and centerist voters.  A spirited three way race with Schlesinger bringing up the rear would increase voter turnout.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe my calculus is wrong here, but if Lieberman and Lamont are BOTH on the ballot in November, wouldn’t that benefit Democrats?  Both Lamont and Lieberman supporters would drive up voting interest among left and centerist voters.  A spirited three way race with Schlesinger bringing up the rear would increase voter turnout.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/05/holy-joe-screwing-the-party-once-again/#comment-174300</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;DBL — Nice of you to show up in the EPU Zone of this thread where you will not see much challenge.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are making assumption on your own as well, or swagging details. Addressing your assertion that Lieberman votes straight party line, &lt;a href=&quot;http://indyvoter.voterpunch.org/members.jsp&quot;&gt;records show&lt;/a&gt; that Lieberman’s voting record through 2004 is in the bottom of the Democrats, and when ranked against all 100 Senators, Lieberman is only 41st on the scale of Democratic voting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Add his miserable record on meeting with constituents in CT (on which his own staffer said Lieberman hadn’t been home in 6 years), and you’ve got considerable discontent.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Compare Lieberman’s voting record (75.5%) through 2004 with Dodd (86.5%) and he still does poorly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The two final straws were the Alito vote on cloture, and Lieberman’s position on Social Security.  Both of these issues have enormous impact on all Americans and both are examples where Lieberman failed to do the right thing, by Connecticut constituents, by the American public, not to mention the Democratic Party.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Democratic Party and progressive constituents of CT deserve better, and through democratic (little d) processes, they should get it.  If Lieberman were a real Democratic candidate and a real believer in the democratic process, he’d recognize the voice of the people through their votes in the primary.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DBL — Nice of you to show up in the EPU Zone of this thread where you will not see much challenge.</p>
<p>You are making assumption on your own as well, or swagging details. Addressing your assertion that Lieberman votes straight party line, <a href="http://indyvoter.voterpunch.org/members.jsp">records show</a> that Lieberman’s voting record through 2004 is in the bottom of the Democrats, and when ranked against all 100 Senators, Lieberman is only 41st on the scale of Democratic voting.</p>
<p>Add his miserable record on meeting with constituents in CT (on which his own staffer said Lieberman hadn’t been home in 6 years), and you’ve got considerable discontent.</p>
<p>Compare Lieberman’s voting record (75.5%) through 2004 with Dodd (86.5%) and he still does poorly.</p>
<p>The two final straws were the Alito vote on cloture, and Lieberman’s position on Social Security.  Both of these issues have enormous impact on all Americans and both are examples where Lieberman failed to do the right thing, by Connecticut constituents, by the American public, not to mention the Democratic Party.</p>
<p>The Democratic Party and progressive constituents of CT deserve better, and through democratic (little d) processes, they should get it.  If Lieberman were a real Democratic candidate and a real believer in the democratic process, he’d recognize the voice of the people through their votes in the primary.</p>
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		<title>By: mdhatter</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/05/holy-joe-screwing-the-party-once-again/#comment-174284</link>
		<dc:creator>mdhatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Joe Lieberman for Toolbag!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Lieberman for Toolbag!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/05/holy-joe-screwing-the-party-once-again/#comment-174251</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Uh DBL, have you already forgotten about that traitor’s vote for cloture on Alito? A lot of us haven’t and we will NOT forgive that slimeball who has proved again and again his only loyalty is as that of a puppy to her master….and that master ain’t us.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh DBL, have you already forgotten about that traitor’s vote for cloture on Alito? A lot of us haven’t and we will NOT forgive that slimeball who has proved again and again his only loyalty is as that of a puppy to her master….and that master ain’t us.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Call the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee at (202) 224-2447 and tell them you want them to issue a SPECIFIC statement that they will FULLY support whoever the primary winner is. No more of this fucking namby-pamby BULLSHIT of not wanting to alienate Lieberman just in case. He has already voted against us too many times to be trusted EVER AGAIN.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee at (202) 224-2447 and tell them you want them to issue a SPECIFIC statement that they will FULLY support whoever the primary winner is. No more of this fucking namby-pamby BULLSHIT of not wanting to alienate Lieberman just in case. He has already voted against us too many times to be trusted EVER AGAIN.</p>
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		<title>By: SPENCER ADAMS</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/05/holy-joe-screwing-the-party-once-again/#comment-174227</link>
		<dc:creator>SPENCER ADAMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I called Boxer’s office and although he also grumbled about Lieberman’s petition effort, apparently, Boxer’s office and PAC needs a few more calls and emails.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Boxer 213-894-5000&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pacsforachange.com&quot;&gt;http://www.pacsforachange.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called Boxer’s office and although he also grumbled about Lieberman’s petition effort, apparently, Boxer’s office and PAC needs a few more calls and emails.</p>
<p>Boxer 213-894-5000<br />
<a href="http://www.pacsforachange.com">http://www.pacsforachange.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/05/holy-joe-screwing-the-party-once-again/#comment-174163</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Looks like it is time to call the office of Biden, Boxer and Salazar.  The Times is reporting that the three will be campaigning for Joe in CT.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So tired of the “clubbiness”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Democrats-Lieberman.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin.....ref=slogin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like it is time to call the office of Biden, Boxer and Salazar.  The Times is reporting that the three will be campaigning for Joe in CT.</p>
<p>So tired of the “clubbiness”.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Democrats-Lieberman.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin">http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin&#8230;..ref=slogin</a></p>
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		<title>By: DBL</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/05/holy-joe-screwing-the-party-once-again/#comment-174159</link>
		<dc:creator>DBL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 20:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You have it exactly ass-backwards.  Sen. Lieberman’s voting record is down the line Democratic.  Show me a single vote where Sen. Lieberbman defied a demand by the party leadership for loyalty.  It’s never happened.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What’s happened instead is that the Democratic Party has been hijacked by a small group of well-funded radicals. The primary on August 8 will only attract about 10-15% of the registered Democrats in the state, and registered Democrats are only about 30% of all registered voters.  The result is that 3-5% of all the registered voters in the state will cast Lieberman aside because he won’t kowtow to their radical demands.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fortunately, there is a general election in which the independents (who outnumber the Democrats and Republicans in Connecticut) will have the final say.  My prediction:  in a three way vote, Sen. Lieberman will get 60%, and the Democratic Party leaders will be on their hands and knees begging Sen. Lieberman to vote with the Democratic Party caucus.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have it exactly ass-backwards.  Sen. Lieberman’s voting record is down the line Democratic.  Show me a single vote where Sen. Lieberbman defied a demand by the party leadership for loyalty.  It’s never happened.</p>
<p>What’s happened instead is that the Democratic Party has been hijacked by a small group of well-funded radicals. The primary on August 8 will only attract about 10-15% of the registered Democrats in the state, and registered Democrats are only about 30% of all registered voters.  The result is that 3-5% of all the registered voters in the state will cast Lieberman aside because he won’t kowtow to their radical demands.  </p>
<p>Fortunately, there is a general election in which the independents (who outnumber the Democrats and Republicans in Connecticut) will have the final say.  My prediction:  in a three way vote, Sen. Lieberman will get 60%, and the Democratic Party leaders will be on their hands and knees begging Sen. Lieberman to vote with the Democratic Party caucus.</p>
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