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	<title>Comments on: The American Workplace: Leave Your Rights At The Door</title>
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		<title>By: NYC Educator</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/04/the-american-workplace-leave-your-rights-at-the-door/#comment-176161</link>
		<dc:creator>NYC Educator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s remarkable that the charter crowd can complain.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If they want the cap lifted, let them allow ananymous card checks in their schools, so that working teachers can choose whether or not they want unions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If they’re unwilling to do that, they’re simply anti-union.  I’d rather stand with 80,000 NYC teachers than all by myself.  I suspect those who teach at charters feel the same.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And if they don’t, let them vote no.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The problem here, as with most of the country, is that emplyers don’t want them to vote at all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s remarkable that the charter crowd can complain.</p>
<p>If they want the cap lifted, let them allow ananymous card checks in their schools, so that working teachers can choose whether or not they want unions.</p>
<p>If they’re unwilling to do that, they’re simply anti-union.  I’d rather stand with 80,000 NYC teachers than all by myself.  I suspect those who teach at charters feel the same.</p>
<p>And if they don’t, let them vote no.</p>
<p>The problem here, as with most of the country, is that emplyers don’t want them to vote at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Edwize &#187; More perspective on Charter Organizing Story</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edwize &#187; More perspective on Charter Organizing Story</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[…] Jordan Barab writing at Firedoglake: What we have here is a combination of non-union workers’ helplessness in the face of the arbitrary actions of dictatorial bosses who tolerate no challenge from their employees, combined with the right-wings tendency to blame the ills of our education system on teachers, or more specifically on the unions that represent teachers. The anti-union National Right To Work Foundation has formed a special organization to oppose teachers’ unions:  Like many government-sector professions, public education has long been dominated by compulsory unionism. To combat the serious threat to academic freedom that compulsory unionism poses, Concerned Educators Against Forced Unionism (CEAFU) was founded in 1975. As a special project of the National Right to Work Legal Foundation, CEAFU has been at the forefront in the battle against forced unionism in public education for 30 years. It is continuing to educate America’s teachers about the coercive agenda of the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers’ union hierarchies. […]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] Jordan Barab writing at Firedoglake: What we have here is a combination of non-union workers’ helplessness in the face of the arbitrary actions of dictatorial bosses who tolerate no challenge from their employees, combined with the right-wings tendency to blame the ills of our education system on teachers, or more specifically on the unions that represent teachers. The anti-union National Right To Work Foundation has formed a special organization to oppose teachers’ unions:  Like many government-sector professions, public education has long been dominated by compulsory unionism. To combat the serious threat to academic freedom that compulsory unionism poses, Concerned Educators Against Forced Unionism (CEAFU) was founded in 1975. As a special project of the National Right to Work Legal Foundation, CEAFU has been at the forefront in the battle against forced unionism in public education for 30 years. It is continuing to educate America’s teachers about the coercive agenda of the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers’ union hierarchies. […]</p>
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		<title>By: Moo Cow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moo Cow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 19:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One of the bigger issues that this charter school may face with regard to the fired teachers is the fact that the teachers may have a right of action against the school under Section 511 of ERISA.  This federal law protects employee retirement funds and prohibits employers from firing their employees as a means of preventing employees from rights under those funds.  ERISA protects both traditional pension funds and pension funds such as the 401k.  If these teachers were fired because they were trying to learn what happened to their 401ks or to the funds that went into their 401ks, then they should seek legal advice on whether or not they have a right of action against the school.  While employers in at-will states have the “right” to fire employees for almost anything, they do not have the right to fire them for reasons that violate the law, i.e. discrimination, preventing them from obtain a right guaranteed by state and federal law, etc.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the bigger issues that this charter school may face with regard to the fired teachers is the fact that the teachers may have a right of action against the school under Section 511 of ERISA.  This federal law protects employee retirement funds and prohibits employers from firing their employees as a means of preventing employees from rights under those funds.  ERISA protects both traditional pension funds and pension funds such as the 401k.  If these teachers were fired because they were trying to learn what happened to their 401ks or to the funds that went into their 401ks, then they should seek legal advice on whether or not they have a right of action against the school.  While employers in at-will states have the “right” to fire employees for almost anything, they do not have the right to fire them for reasons that violate the law, i.e. discrimination, preventing them from obtain a right guaranteed by state and federal law, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: ElanaDMI</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElanaDMI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the link to the DMIblog Jordon. You’d doing great work as always educating the netroots!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link to the DMIblog Jordon. You’d doing great work as always educating the netroots!</p>
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		<title>By: Amike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 14:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bravo.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m a tenured full professor &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; a proud union member.  Thirty years ago our faculty voted to organize.  The issue wasn’t economic:  it was governance, having the degree of control over curricular issues which our professional training demanded.  It was a radical step back then.  Some of my colleagues thought Unions were for “them”…you know, the blue collar drudges, and not for “us”–the elite of the meritocracy.  But we recognized, ultimately, that without collective bargaining we were &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; drudges, regardless of the colors of our collars.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When the rest of the nation awakes to its vulnerability in a corporate finance dominated global economy, regardless of education, regardless of professional skill, perhaps we’ll see a resurgence of the union movement.  Teachers have provided a model. I hope the Union movement devotes some energy to organizing other “professionals” who may &lt;i&gt;think&lt;/i&gt; of themselves as managers but who are as managed as any other working stiff.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo.</p>
<p>I’m a tenured full professor <i>and</i> a proud union member.  Thirty years ago our faculty voted to organize.  The issue wasn’t economic:  it was governance, having the degree of control over curricular issues which our professional training demanded.  It was a radical step back then.  Some of my colleagues thought Unions were for “them”…you know, the blue collar drudges, and not for “us”–the elite of the meritocracy.  But we recognized, ultimately, that without collective bargaining we were <i>all</i> drudges, regardless of the colors of our collars.  </p>
<p>When the rest of the nation awakes to its vulnerability in a corporate finance dominated global economy, regardless of education, regardless of professional skill, perhaps we’ll see a resurgence of the union movement.  Teachers have provided a model. I hope the Union movement devotes some energy to organizing other “professionals” who may <i>think</i> of themselves as managers but who are as managed as any other working stiff.</p>
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		<title>By: critter&#8217;s mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>critter&#8217;s mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 13:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;for all you legal eagles a question: is a contract with a union thru a city actually a public document and therefore all the info in it is public information?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for all you legal eagles a question: is a contract with a union thru a city actually a public document and therefore all the info in it is public information?</p>
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		<title>By: Peej</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/04/the-american-workplace-leave-your-rights-at-the-door/#comment-173446</link>
		<dc:creator>Peej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 12:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Workplace rights? What’s that?  Think about being told it was noticed your “work performance” was declining (no documentaion) the last three months before your lung cancer surgery.  I guess the missing work from having to attend CT scans, PET scans, evaluation of recovery from surgery testing, lack of focus on future contributimight have had something to do with it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Think about being moved from your normal job duties and being told your performance is under evaluation upon return from successful surgery.  Think about another spot being seen on your first CT scan.  Think about being terrified you’re going to lose your job and be without insurance facing the entire $300,000 of testing again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It happens.  Think about it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Peace!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Workplace rights? What’s that?  Think about being told it was noticed your “work performance” was declining (no documentaion) the last three months before your lung cancer surgery.  I guess the missing work from having to attend CT scans, PET scans, evaluation of recovery from surgery testing, lack of focus on future contributimight have had something to do with it.</p>
<p>Think about being moved from your normal job duties and being told your performance is under evaluation upon return from successful surgery.  Think about another spot being seen on your first CT scan.  Think about being terrified you’re going to lose your job and be without insurance facing the entire $300,000 of testing again.</p>
<p>It happens.  Think about it.</p>
<p>Peace!</p>
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		<title>By: steve gilliard</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve gilliard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 12:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, the UFT has the votes in Albany to make more charter schools impossible. The mayor and the governor wanted more than 100 charters, but the union said no, unless they can unionize the teachers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But another ongoing issue here is the financial management of the school. The missing 401k money is a bad sign. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Everyone is waiting for Spitzer to be elected, then they will make their move on some onerous  work rules.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the UFT has the votes in Albany to make more charter schools impossible. The mayor and the governor wanted more than 100 charters, but the union said no, unless they can unionize the teachers.</p>
<p>But another ongoing issue here is the financial management of the school. The missing 401k money is a bad sign. </p>
<p>Everyone is waiting for Spitzer to be elected, then they will make their move on some onerous  work rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 05:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m union, have been non-union and if I have my choice, I will never work in a non-union shop again.  If where I live becomes a “Right to Work” State, I’ll move.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But that’s not what I want to point out.  My Aunt, who’s a nurse, was never union before, is getting ready to go out on Strike for the first time in her life.  She’s the angel of the family.  Although she’s real close to retirement, she’s fighting for working mechanical beds for her patients.  It drives her crazy to see them suffer, because the Hosptial at which she works, won’t spend the money where it needs to be spent.  Management individually tried to pressure these nurses and they threatened to fire her and she laughed at them, as she’s close to retirement and flat out told them that the money was not why she’d be striking!  Meanwhile, the hospital administrator makes $500,000.00 annually!  Her union is fighting for not only themselves, but for the patients they serve.  They’d be on strike right now, if Hillary hadn’t stepped in and asked Management and the Union to extend negotiations till next Monday.  This is going to get ugly, as management has already arranged for contract (SCAB) nurses.  But local deliveries won’t take place, because those who know these nurses won’t cross the picket lines.  They had a 1 day “informational strike” and nearly all of delivery guys stopped and asked and only when assured, drove in with the goods the Hospital needed.    The reason I point this fact out is that sometimes union members benefit more than just themselves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then again, we all should thank unions for what USED TO BE a 40 Hour Work Week and the few protections we have now–like child labor laws.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m union, have been non-union and if I have my choice, I will never work in a non-union shop again.  If where I live becomes a “Right to Work” State, I’ll move.  </p>
<p>But that’s not what I want to point out.  My Aunt, who’s a nurse, was never union before, is getting ready to go out on Strike for the first time in her life.  She’s the angel of the family.  Although she’s real close to retirement, she’s fighting for working mechanical beds for her patients.  It drives her crazy to see them suffer, because the Hosptial at which she works, won’t spend the money where it needs to be spent.  Management individually tried to pressure these nurses and they threatened to fire her and she laughed at them, as she’s close to retirement and flat out told them that the money was not why she’d be striking!  Meanwhile, the hospital administrator makes $500,000.00 annually!  Her union is fighting for not only themselves, but for the patients they serve.  They’d be on strike right now, if Hillary hadn’t stepped in and asked Management and the Union to extend negotiations till next Monday.  This is going to get ugly, as management has already arranged for contract (SCAB) nurses.  But local deliveries won’t take place, because those who know these nurses won’t cross the picket lines.  They had a 1 day “informational strike” and nearly all of delivery guys stopped and asked and only when assured, drove in with the goods the Hospital needed.    The reason I point this fact out is that sometimes union members benefit more than just themselves.</p>
<p>Then again, we all should thank unions for what USED TO BE a 40 Hour Work Week and the few protections we have now–like child labor laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Shell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;EXCELLENT article!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXCELLENT article!</p>
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