It was a fabulous day for a 4th of July parade in the Connecticut heat. Both Ned Lamont and Joe Lieberman walked the parade in Willimantic, but the most attention went to a float of "the kiss" made by "dad" who posts on My Left Nutmeg. The dogs and I walked the parade with other bloggers like CTKeith (who threw "kiss" buttons from the float), DeanFan84, CTBlogger and many others (we even have a walk-on in the video above by Spazeboy). Maura from MLN had a great post yesterday entitled "Joe Arranges for His Own Plan B, But Opposes Plan B for Rape Victims" and that wound up on signs plastered to the float. It was definitely the parade’s biggest attention-grabber.
People responded really enthusiastically to Ned and Joe is increasingly becoming a state joke. Spazeboy also has a great video where he interviews people holding Lieberman signs, who admit they are Republicans.
Much more soon. Rumors are flying fast and furious, and there was a lot of interesting local reaction to Joe’s announcement I’ll get into later. And Paul Bass has a write-up of our high speed chase to Hartford for Joe’s press conference here (although I’ll add that I was doing 90 trying to keep up with Tim Tagaris, I wasn’t in the lead).
Update: Scarce has more YouTube video of the parade here.
Update II: CTBlogger has more parade video. Friggin’ poodles everywhere.
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Fitz!
YOu are everywhere, Jane!!!
Thanks for all this great information, I feel like I’m there with you!
How’s your leash arm holding up, Jane? (Though your threesome all look incredibly serene.)
OT – N Korea just launched a 3rd missile – this time it was the big one — but sources say it may have broken up mid flight
Security Council may meet tonight.
That is absolutely rich, Lieberman needs to bow out gracefully, if only he had any shame…
I found it odd that Joe Lieberman announced his bi-party campaign on National co-dependence day.
The Paul Bass article was a hoot Jane, sounds like he had a wild ride with you and the kids. Too bad you’re having such a hard time warming up to the locals, dear…
Oh no…I hope it wasnt the Taepodong…this could mean trouble. :(
Buckle up Jane–we don’t need another Lady Di.
It WAS the Taepodong — but it broke up.
Thanks for the link, Jane. ‘Twas a pleasure meeting you and your beautiful dogs–whose names I hope to learn by August 8th.
kurotenshi 9 – they are saying the 3rd one was the Taepodong – and it didn’t work
“Maura from MLN had a great post yesterday entitled “Joe Arranges for His Own Plan B, But Opposes Plan B for Rape Victims”
The MLN link was not working for me.
Here’s the link, but I am not sure where Maura’s post is.
http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/sh…..aryId=1599
Oh noes…
Fabuloso !!!
love the kiss (Dick Tuck would be so proud !), love the Plan B, and omg, love those Poodles !!!
A Happy and Glorious 4th to the Jane Hamsher of the Left – feel so lucky to have ever encountered this site -
Nice try, Jane. But we already figured out that Kobe was driving.
kurotenshi (I’m sorry, I can’t remember), are you in Japan? THEY must be hopping mad. Any word what the government’s move(s) may be (if you’re there)?
So NK did try to launch their alleged threat, which didn’t work, to which we are supposed to respond with ours that doesn’t work either.
Is that about right?
That’s about it, zen.
Maybe Kim uses the same defense contractors that we do.
No lotus, Im not…many of my friends are though, but they are more worried about the repurcursions facing this madman, then the actual madman himself…
Smart Hillary! http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ent-172586
I’m tellin’ ya, we gotta get all those endorsements–Coulter, Hannity, Mitch McConnell, that fat guy holding a Lieberman sign and saying “I’m a Republcan”–into an ad. I may just have to become computer literate.
So NK did try to launch their alleged threat, which didn’t work, to which we are supposed to respond with ours that doesn’t work either.
Is that about right?
I’m surprised the Bushies haven’t claimed that they shot the missile down in a spectacular vindication of their Star Wars missile defense…
…now we will try some ChimpCo style diplomacy that won’t work either
“… they are more worried about the repurcursions facing this madman, then the actual madman himself%u2026″
Know just what you mean, kurotenshi.
I feel trouble coming, Cheney will never let this stand. Unbelievable.
I mean more trouble, of course.
Hi Spazeboy — Those are the Black Lambshers, the official mascots of the Fever Swamp. I’m sure they will deign to give you an interview if suitable homage is paid, preferably in the form of pumpkin muffins.
Implicitly understood, zen.
You must remember this
A kiss is just a kiss, a sigh is just a sigh.
The fundamental things apply
As time goes by.
My wife, whose family still has some distant roots in Willimantic, says she couldn’t be prouder of the way the townspeople turned out for Ned.
So the taepodong saw Spazeboy’s video of The Kiss and cracked up? Our secret weapon…!
EPU’d from last thread -
We just came back from the parade. We’re in a small town but it’s a tourist destination, so there were people from all over the country here. A couple of interesting things happened. The peace and justice folks marched with enormous banners with images of a flag draped coffins and the name of each deceased soldier under each one. Their group was in stark contrast to the other festive floats. They all wore black and there was a steady drum beat accompanying them. They told me after that a continuous applause followed them the entire length of the parade route and that people were removing their hats and shedding tears.
At another point along the route a group of crashers snuck into a gap, they carried a sign that said U.S.A. Patriot Act Band. The women were dressed in red, white, and blue. They wore duct tape over their mouths, behind them were guys playing drums in a fife and drum kind of mode (without the fife). They were all in black and had sewn on the backs of thier shirts – Verizon, NSA, AT&T, etc.
The peace and justice people had to fight to be in this parade. The town thought it was not in keeping with their “fun in the sun” theme. I’m so glad they persisted. Celebrating our independence at a time when it is under threat seems somehow inappropriate. They, along with the crashers, added the brevity that the party needed.
Anyway that’s the state of things in Podunk, USA. Civil disobedience is alive and well.
NK – have there been any reports of 3rd party verification (not Australia) ?
al-Scooter @ 1:49 pm (#21) – Rockets seem to be very difficult machines to design. The history of rocket design is a history of spectacular explosions interrupted by the occasional successful launch. That’s the history of the V2, our early rockets, and just about every other country that has attempted them. Many of the more reliable rocket designs for commercial applications are descended from designs first made operational in the 1960s.
Jim 24 — Be sure to add Bill Bennett. I believe he endorsed Boltin’ Joe on CNN last week.
Time to bone up, FirePups. Get your background on before the ‘wingers start pumping the War Machine for an all-out assault on a third front. I heartily recommend the Frontline series, Kim’s Nuclear Gamble — and in particular, Perle’s interview in that series since his aggressive advocacy of disengagement from North Korea led us directly to the three missiles fired today.
F*ck you, Richard Perle, and the damned neo-con horse you road in on.
*ilson at 1:50.
THANKYOU for recommenting that link!
Can’t believe I missed it.
That is big!
IMO that puts a lot more pressure on Schumur and all the other Vichy Dems.
It also makes emminent sense. Joe
*uckedput the national Democratic Party in a lose lose positionexpecting their support when he told the CT Primary to go “Dick Cheney” themselves. My hope is that all Dems pressure Joenertia to recant his “Plan B.” Whether Joe actually recants is less important than the the National Democratic Party using Joe’sabandoning the partyPlan B as a first class opportunity to rally party unity BEFORE the August primary.Just hope Kim Jong Il was standing under the debris-fall with all his rocket scientists . . .
Naaah, we’d never be that lucky.
Neuro!
I posted the following at the DSCC blog:
“How interesting that a supposed blog claiming to represent Democratic thinking deletes all comments which ask – politely – about the DSCC’s plans to address the cut&run behavior of Joe Lieberman.
Doing this on the fourth of July says a great deal about the DSCC’s committment to the rights we celebrate today
and about the DSCC’s lack of respect for the will of the voters.”
Time for everyone to do the same – and keep doing it!
IMO that puts a lot more pressure on Schumur and all the other Vichy Dems.
You misspelled “Shrumer”.
“The history of rocket design is a history of spectacular explosions interrupted by the occasional successful launch.”
LMAO.
ok Techies,
spooks in my past have led me to believe no one could so much as enter a ‘launch algorithm’ without us knowing about it – so what gives
and does anyone in the community wish to address the Chinese role here ? yeah I know, he’s supposed to be “crazy”, but would he be crazy enough to launch anything with a billion Chinese bearing down on his ass ? just asking
good god, left nutmeg best blog ever, this float best thing ever, jane best kickass beeyotch on the side of the angels ever, is this all just the teensiest yet inexhorable somethin hapnin
Neuro – mistake I think, I just went to grab the link and it looks like the posts are there.
Confirm?
BTW – Christy, thanks for the previous posting; took me two hours to get throught that one because I read it aloud to the kids and discussed the Declaration’s context, contents, signatories with the kids. Damn exhausting, the questions they come up with…can you believe I actually had to revisit Ukraine’s Orange Revolution during the course of the discussion?! That came on the heels of a question about how does the American public replace a government that fails to secure its human and civil rights if the president and Congress refuse to hear petitioners’ requests for redress…I’m whipped after all that. Good thing I’m not a teacher, I don’t know if I could do this full-time for a living. Bless you teachers who do!
looseheadprop — you there? check your mail, thks. I’d better check mine, too.
I don’t believe anything our government says. I’ll have to wait for confirmation from European sources before I accept North Korea launched anything more than fireworks. And if the big missile did break up, who wants to take bets we claim it was Bush’s “missile defense” boondoggle that did it, even though it doesn’t work?
OT: not content to screw up our own elections, the Goopers are apparently meddling in Mexico’s presidentials:
Palast: Grand Theft Mexico
Generally not prone to tin foil, but I wouldn’t put it past them.
Rayne @ 38
F*ck you, Richard Perle, and the damned neo-con horse you road in on.
Corrected for spelling:
F*ck you, Richard Perle, and the damned neo-con whores you rode in on.
CNN reports 4th missile launched in to sea of Japan
4th missle fired…CNN…
nothing on South Korean State TV
for Hillary to pledge to back only the winner of the Democratic Party Primary is very important http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin…..erman.html
Thank you, Jane — and Thank YOU, Christy; for everything that you do.
For those who haven’t seen it, this article in the New Haven Independent is the absolute BEST thing I’ve ever read about Jane and her mission.
Seriously –
http://www.newhavenindependent…..poodle.php
Check out all the photos — my favorite is the last one, of Ned Lamont. THAT is an image of a candidate with grim determination; that is the Ned Lamont I’ve been waiting for.
cbl, Kyoto News Service is announcing 4th missile tests — pointing in the direction of Japan, but landing in the ocean
Ha! Ol’ Grumpy Joe must have been grinding his teeth at that float! Way to go CT!!!
John King is sure doing a good job subbing for Leslie. He’s just concluded an interview with Wendy Sherman (sp?), a former (Clinton) State Dept. official who just flayed the Bush administration “all sticks no carrots” approach, and King said he was sure the Admin. would have a different point of view but he’d leave that for another time. How nice to have an anchor who doesn’t think he has to spout RNC talking points himself to provide “balance.”
Holy shit, NK just fired a fourth missile. I’m having flashbacks to the Cuban missile crisis.
a large liquid-fueled missile is a very persnickety thing — nobody should be surprised that it didn’t work, including the North Koreans …
Rayne, what grand mothering you did today — much thanks from all your kids’ fellow Americans!
puppethead @ 2:07 pm (#48) – Think I’ll wait until someone’s figured out how many missiles were launched and what kind before speculating. Looks like we’re in the “we don’t know anything, but here’s something we heard” phase of the journalistic process.
siun at 2:02 p.m.
Great job! It will be interesting to see how long it stays up. Have they no shame?
Thanks Curious !
neuro, see siun’s 46.
4 missles? Geez, they probably have like 2 left.
Spazeboy 12 — It was great to meet you, too. The dogs for the record are Katie, Kobe and Lucy, and I hope in the not-too-distant future to be in a house where I can leave them at home (Kobe howls when I leave — no good for motels) so their public appearances will be much more limited.
The have been enjoying their photo ops, though.
44, cbl at 2:05 pm
No one controls North Korea. They are as much a pain in China’s side as they are in ours. While the launches may have been monitored, no one was going to give away the spook store by intervening.
That said, these launches serve the interests of both BushCo and the Chinese.
BushCo, because any distraction has value; a menacing distraction by an Axis of Evil opponent is Satan’s gift to Karl Rove.
China, because it stirs the pot — it makes us look weak, and anything that makes us look weak makes them attractive.
Cujo359 #36:
Thanks, but I was being facetious.
My foster father was an aerospace engineer, one of the 400,000 or so men and women who worked on the Apollo program. Before that, he worked on Polaris missile guidance systems. So yeah, I know about rocket launches and even who Hermann Oberth was.
cbl – I think missile detection is based upon aerial and surface sensor arrays. Im not sure what type of signals surveillance would of been used against the soviet union that would address your ‘launch algorithm’ question.
siun 46
I guess I was wrong. I did not understand how the blog was structured, I thought my message was a post on the main page, but it is actually in the comments. Apologies to the DSCC and to you for putting you in that position.
I wonder how you post on the main page?
Jane 66,
Haha, I have the same trouble with my dogs. I love going on vacation with them but they sure like to howl when I leave them in the room. Being German Shepherd/Siberian Husky mix lends to a penchant for howling (it’s the Husky in them).
I think CNN said that one of the missiles was powered by Mentos and Diet Coke… I may be mistaken though ;)
B. Starr: DoD says Taepodong “failed very early” — let’s hope it’s true and that it did serious damage to Kim’s effort.
The ultimate “Freshmaker”…lmao
I’m still laughing at that Republican for Lieberman.
Man, if that doesn’t say it all.
Jane –
An old aquaintance of an old Connecticut family lives not far from the Indian Casino Empire; they run a bed and breakfast, have horses and acreage — would that of interest as a Kobe base station?
puppethead 71 — yeah and calls to the SPCA to report dog abuse come next. If they only knew. Spoiled little bastards, I drove 50 miles to buy them organic dog food on Saturday, then ate dinner out of a vending machine myself.
watertiger 75 — that’s a knee slapper, huh?
ck at 2:12 pm
Thanks for the link to the terrific article on Jane.
thanks for the response ck & kurotenshi -
kurotenshi – lots of bragging from signal detection and processing guys who did 80% of their work in ‘tanks’ or secured vaults
and yeah ck – we all learned about not giving away the store from KAL007
thanks guys
Now, Jane, this is your Aunt Lotus speaking. You take better care of yourself, you heah? You’ve been through way too much in the last three weeks to be slightin’ yo’ nutrition. You eat an’ sleep an’ exercise right, or Ah’m gonna come up theah and whomp the tar outta ya, you got thet?
Pessimist launches a bombshell at TheLeftCoaster –
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/008123.php
On Oct. 29, 2004, just four days before the U.S. presidential election, al-Qaeda leader Osama bin-Laden released a videotape denouncing George W. Bush. Some Bush supporters quickly spun the diatribe as “Osama’s endorsement of John Kerry.”
But behind the walls of the CIA, analysts had concluded the opposite: that bin-Laden was trying to help Bush gain a second term.
This was the payback:
The Central Intelligence Agency has closed a unit that for a decade had the mission of hunting Osama bin Laden and his top lieutenants, intelligence officials confirmed Monday. The realignment reflects a view that Al Qaeda is no longer as hierarchical as it once was, intelligence officials said, and a growing concern about Qaeda-inspired groups that have begun carrying out attacks independent of Mr. bin Laden and his top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri.
Other elements aided and abetted the conspiracy – for reasons of their own:
Al-Qaida leaders sold out Abu Musab al-Zarqawi to the United States in exchange for a promise to let up in the search for Osama bin Laden, the slain militant’s wife claimed in an interview with an Italian newspaper, La Repubblica. The woman, identified by as al-Zarqawi’s first wife, said al-Qaida’s top leadership reached a deal with U.S. intelligence because al-Zarqawi had become too powerful.
She claimed Sunni tribes and Jordanian secret services mediated the deal.
My comment at the DSCC:
I would urge the DSCC to refrain from meddling in the CT primary and state uequivocally full support for the Democratic winner. In a time when Democrats are unified in opposition to the President’s unlimited powergrab, it would be wise for our representatives to show they are beholden to the voices of the people. Honor our democratic principles and support the winner of the primary one hundred percent.
I try to avoid being hateful and point out the hypocracy of acting all Bushleague.
al-Scooter @ 2:20 pm (#68) – Again, for want of smiley, all meaning was lost …
Hermann Oberth, eh? You’re one of about ten people in this country who’d even recognize the name, I suspect. I suspect he was responsible for as many accidental explosions as Goddard and Tsiolkovsky.
Looks like most Asian news websites (as well as European) are depending on CNN for info on the North Korean missiles, although Japanese military intelligence was cited as a confirming source in a number of briefs. South Korean ’sites are strangely silent.
Back OT: BBC News Online (subpage, The Americas) has a lengthy piece on the Lamont/Lieberman race here. Pretty informative, though colored by the BBC’s characteristically dismissive approach to all things in the upstart former Colonies.
LindaR 2:09pm — heh. I yield to your excellence in composition.
lotus 2:14pm — it’s been a tough day being a mother, actually, not much grand about it. I’ve been in tears three times.
Once, as I held my breath and waited through the shuttle launch today; I’d already tried to squelch the kids’ excitement a bit in case of less-than-happy results. Was literally speechless, choked up, waiting until the shuttle reached orbit after booster separation.
Again, when my daughter asked me how we, the People, exercise our rights to alter or abolish our government when elected officials refuse to acknowledge our lack of consent or when elections are stolen. You may picture me fighting tears as I look up “Orange Revolution” for an example of a response to a stolen election…
And lastly, as I tried to calmly assure my son that the Korean missiles will not affect us directly where we are.
We are led by people who should be forcibly ejected from office and I’m here trying to explain to my kids why it hasn’t happened yet. May the Creator who endowed us with unalienable rights help us find our self-empowerment, to lead us out of this mess and save ourselves, our souls and our children.
Oilfieldguy 2:30 p.m.
Good comment. I would like to see the DSCC put out a statement pledging neutrality in the primary and support for the nominee. In the meantime I continue to encourage FDLers to post polite comments at the DSCC blog regarding Lieberman’s have-it-both-ways strategy, as well as to e-mail them and call them when their offices reopen tomorrow.
Here’s the DSCC link again:
http://www.fromtheroots.org/
I say bless you and Amen, Rayne.
Here’s the DSCC link again:
http://www.fromtheroots.org/
That “From The Roots” thing just kills me. Like they care what the roots think.
Jane @ 78,
Spaceboyz should contact the Lamont campaign with that footage.
(if it hasn’t already been suggested)
Rayne @86 — I am so in sympathy with what you’re saying. My son just remarked this could have been a disaster of a day if the shuttle launch and the Korean missle launch had gone differently.
I. Want. My. Country. Back.
Curt Weldon making sense on cnn – “we should engage them” and opposing response “in an offensive way”
OT but cool story my freshly new ex lost her wallet at rehoboth beach DE two weekends ago amid my band’s bigdeal last hurrah there. so she calls me yesterday to report that the wallet is now back in her hands via US mail, with everything intact including the entirety of two hundred seventy dollars cash. Two 17-year-old boys from Pa found it. aren’t non cheneyite humans cool?
Weldon is being very very strong speaking against any military response and basing it on the briefings he has had.
The Beeb has a report up now about the NK missile launches. They say there were two short range missiles launched and one apparent Taepodong-2. There may also have been a fourth. Officially, we’re not worried:
Remain calm. Stay in your homes. Try to remember where you put the duct tape and cellophane. ;-)
OT-
OK you technically inclined types, how long do I have to wait until blogs and comments can be streamed in audio? Posters and commenters could choose a pseudovoice and their written words would be vocalized for steaming.
I say this because I haven’t been able to tear myself away from my laptop all day and my Sophie has been VERY patient waiting for her walk and has been good to settle for being let out to the backyard over and over instead (trouble is, I can’t just leave the back door open for her to come and go because she always closes the door when she comes back in so I have to keep opening the door for her to go back out).
Okay, I guess I’ll just have to hope nobody says anything interesting for the next hour or so…. Heeerrre Sophie! Walkies!
I think John King is doing a good job on the North Korea coverage, he seems on top of the subject and not at all hysterical.
Eli says:
July 4th, 2006 at 1:50 pm
So NK did try to launch their alleged threat, which didn’t work, to which we are supposed to respond with ours that doesn’t work either.
Is that about right?
I’m surprised the Bushies haven’t claimed that they shot the missile down in a spectacular vindication of their Star Wars missile defense%u2026
———————————————————-
Can’t wait for the Rove spin. “The best defense that doesn’t work is a good offense that doesn’t work!”
Sharkbabe @ 94,
There is hope! Shortly after 9/11, I left my wallet in a rental car (I was a bit distracted back then); I ran back to the garage and the guy behind the desk did a cursory search, didn’t find anything. I go away for the weekend and when I get back to NYC, there’s a message on my answering machine from a woman who rented the car after me. She found my wallet in the car.
Crazy Curt has seen the wisdom of sane and rational response?
Time to donate more money to his netroots endorsed opponent!!!
donation linky?
Oooh. Just read that article about Jane. Hope they don’t target you girl.
Cujo359 #84:
Back atcha. IIRC, Oberth was the one who inspired (or infected, depending on one’s POV) von Braun with the idea of space travel as opposed to mere ballistic missiles as extra-long-range artillery.
All those Trekkies are standing on the shoulders of a German they never heard of. So it goes, I’m afraid.
Meanwhile, my very least favorite tinhorn dictator (Mugabe’s next, I have a friend in Zimbabwe) has to go steal our own martinet’s thunder from an Independence Day shuttle launch? He’s not gonna like being upstaged.
Can’t wait for the Rove spin. “The best defense that doesn’t work is a good offense that doesn’t work!”
Or maybe that the NSA & CIA successfully infiltrated and sabotaged the NK missile program…
Ditto what Ripley said. Very worried that the breadth of coverage so far emanates from inside the U.S. — go to http://news.google.com, look at all stories related to the NK missles, click on the link at the right to sort by date (this way you’ll see the spread of a particular story across multiple outlets at the same time). 95% of coverage comes from the US, the rest from Canada as of 530pm EDT.
You’ll be able to monitor other outlets globally via Newseum.org; the link here will take you to front pages of papers around the world. If you click on the papers, you will work your way to a link for each paper’s website (where applicable, since a few papers may not have websites).
Sharkbabe
Now, if we could only get the president to give us back the Constitution that he seems to have stolen…
Remember to Duck and Cover ~
http://video.google.com/videop…..4308374001
VIVA ITALIA!!!!!
italy 2
germany 0
Again, though. It’s not the missiles I’m worried about. Even Kim isn’t crazy enough to launch missiles with a return address at us. But he he might be just crazy and desperate for cash to sell some *warheads*.
aren’t you glad Rita Cosby isn’t the CNN anchor covering the North Korean missile story?
Adder for the Newseum link in my previous comment:
If you need translation services, you can try Google’s Language Tools or WorldLingo.com’s free service.
Neurophius @ 98:
John King is one of The 4400. He was a newspaper reporter in 1934 working with Peter Warne. He wasn’t trained in today’s “communications major” reporting methodology.
Siun #93: Weldon’s offensive, let’s launch him into NK.
OFG #102: What article?
John King is one of The 4400. He was a newspaper reporter in 1934 working with Peter Warne. He wasn’t trained in today’s “communications major” reporting methodology.
So what is his 4400 power, then? If there are any reporters with superhuman 4400 powers, I would have put my money on Hersh and Waas.
yes, *ilson, I dislike a full throated wingnut with a lying warble almost more than the lies they feed us.
Think about Lieberman and Collins– pukebots in arms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eli @ 114. His superpower is being able to listen to politicians without his head exploding.
LindaR
What are the 4400?
Was John King really alive in 1934?
al-scooter 68
My oldest girl-dog is called Rocket. As a pupster, she’d dive headlong into the night out the back doors, clearing the steps and anything left on the patio – - without looking. She earned her Rocket name by never moseying anywhere; she zoomed everywhere she went.
Her registered name is Advent Aerobee-Hi.
Sound familiar?
Oh, we have a boy-dog named Scooter, too.
Eli –
Kim is already proliferating as much as he needs to — his goal is extortion of South Korea and the USA and everyone else: give us what we want or Dear Leader will blow up the world!!!
The Clinton Administration understood this, and acted appropriately.
The Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld Axis of Insanity puts more importance on swingin’ their mighty codpiece, which is why the world is going to hell in a hand basket.
You know what sucks?
The Bush admin and Pentagon say the N. Korean big missile failed quickly – and my default reaction is that I don’t believe a goddamm word they say.
Is it possible someone is telling the truth this time?
neuro 105 – no I suppose it’s a bit harder for diseased rich fucks who hate all life and their own sorry asses…could you imagine fake prez dipshit enjoying the joy of a human unselfless act? me neither.
neurophius — http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0389564/
It’s a teevee show.
Eli @ 114. His superpower is being able to listen to politicians without his head exploding.
…*or* falling for it. Otherwise it’s not much of a power.
Neurophius, The 4400 is a sci-fi series on USA Network about people who were abducted over the past 60 years, given Mysterious Powers by the people of the future, and then all returned to Earth (Seattle) at once.
113, al-Scooter at 2:51 pm
http://www.newhavenindependent…..poodle.php
Hmm, this sounds like movement towards the party candidate to me:
Hey – I’m very much *not* a Weldon fan which is what made me even happier to see him quashing any military response ideas … given the rhetoric we normally see (and I expect we’ll see from BushCo) I’m glad there is already public pushback from him.
al-Scooter @#113
article linked by ck @# 55
Kim is already proliferating as much as he needs to %u2014 his goal is extortion of South Korea and the USA and everyone else: give us what we want or Dear Leader will blow up the world!!!
He doesn’t have to blow up the world; just Seoul. And he doesn’t even need nukes for that.
FWIW, at the bottom of the prior thread, I commented an attempt at the historical nomenclature on the “Statue of Liberty,” as it relates to U.S. football.
Jane,
I love a parade too. Our local (Wasilla, Alaska) parade – election year version – wasn’t much different from the one you were in: community floats, baton twirlers, politicians, restored tractors, the pet goat society, politicians, more church floats than ever before (all fundamentalist sects with a political text or sub-text, local National Guard units, politicians, youth athlete teams and clubs, and did I mention – politicians.
For the hour before the parade, my band, The Mat-Su College Community Band, plays Sousa, R&B, polkas, etc as people show up around the judging stand, setting up their chairs, shepherding their kids and dogs. Our 22nd year at this particular parade. We had a big, enthusiastic crowd. Before we began, I had a private moment of silence in the band for the grandson of one of our euphonium players who has just started treatment for leukemia. Dedicated Fillmore’s “His Honor” to Wasilla’s mayor, a woman. We renamed it “Her Honor” for the occasion.
At 10:34 ADT, we played “Stars & Stripes Forever” as the Challenger lifted off five thousand miles away.
Eli –
Dear Leader is into extortion; it’s BushCo that wants Armageddon . . .
al-Scooter @ 2:47 pm (#102) – Meanwhile, my very least favorite tinhorn dictator (Mugabe’s next, I have a friend in Zimbabwe) has to go steal our own martinet’s thunder from an Independence Day shuttle launch? He’s not gonna like being upstaged.
Yeah well, to quote Jack O’Neill, ours is bigger.
As for Mugabe, while he hasn’t yet stopped the occasional BBC or ITV correspondent from infiltrating his country and bringing back embarassing video, he seems to be catching up to Kim Jong Il in the all-important “how many of his own countrymen can he starve to death” category.
As bad as Bush is as a President, he’s a lightweight in the world’s worst leaders division.
It’s too bad Lieberman can’t be appointed as Ambassador to Luxembourg or something to remove his ego from jeopardizing the Democratic senate seat in Connecticut. If the left had as big a socialist welfare system as the right does they could put him somewhere harmless.
Et, excellent — it wasn’t Challenger but Discovery.
Challenger, RIP.
Dedicated Fillmore’s “His Honor” to Wasilla’s mayor
I didn’t know Millard was musical too …
Dear Leader is into extortion; it’s BushCo that wants Armageddon . . .
Their goals are commensurate with their resources. Unfortunately.
Sorry, I meant ET.
I heard someone say they thought Jane looked like Heather Locklear. Of course the big difference is that Jane is attractive.
As bad as Bush is as a President, he’s a lightweight in the world’s worst leaders division.
I blame the tattered remnants of the Constitution.
jayt @ 2:56 pm (#119) – Not only possible, but actually it’s the more likely possibility under the circumstances. See my 1:56pm (#36) comment. NK is in the early stages of rocketry.
I heard someone say they thought Jane looked like Heather Locklear. Of course the big difference is that Jane is attractive.
Or that Jane has a brain?
lotus, you’re right, and I did announce “Discovery.”
*ilson, Henry, not Millard. “His Honor” and “Americans We” are among the great American marches, right up there with Sousa’s best.
We also did ( among others) Louie, Louie, Mustang Sally, Gimme Some Lovin’ and Green Onions.
there were reports hitting the beeb before the launches that “fuel trucks” had pulled away from the missile launch sites several hours before NK launched so folks knew this was happening
now Barbara Starr saying the Taepodong failed so quickly “they (US mil)did not have the take any action”
woulda been so cool if Heimspiel Deutschland took the Fussballweltmeisterschaftsfinale
Eli @ 3:03 pm (#137) – I blame the tattered remnants of the Constitution.
Never underestimate the power of incompetence.
Sforza gli Azzurri!
OT: I’m going out on a limb and guessing this is of interest to some Firepups. (Mrs. K8? You there?)
Turner Classic Movies will be showing Mr. Smith Goes to Washington at 8pm Eastern, followed by Yankee Doodle Dandy.
Happy 4th of July, everyone!
PS: Wizard of Oz is starting now.
ck,
That’s part of what makes her so attractive.
Hah! The float made local TV news!
Wikipedia describes John King as “an American journalist.”
Wikipedia describes Rita Cosby as “a cable TV news personality”
FWIW
siun, I just hope it went straight up and slipped straight down again in a few seconds, like that famous film we’ve all seen of one of our early attempts. And that they don’t have handy replacement parts.
Rayne, now you’ve made ME cry. {{hugs}}
Just returned from marching in a parade to find the world going crazy again. So glad you all are here.
Listening to the shuttle launch reminded me of the very first shuttle landing, which I watched with a bunch of Navy folks at NAVTELCOM HQ in DC. Everyone was excited, talking, until the shuttle came into view. Hush, quiet, hold your breath. Grown men and a few women, officers and enlisted, stood and saluted as the shuttle touched down, tears of pride streaming down their faces, unashamed, for the amazing feat the US had accomplished. I still get the goose bumps thinking about it.
We got booed once today, in our Dem float in a red town. “Boo, boo, traitors, treason, traitors,” yelled an angry old man. “Boo!” I was driving a Prius behind the float and I got to hear his neighbors shush him up. “Tsk, Old Man, you’re not supposed to Boo at a parade on the Fourth of July!” someone said. They rolled their eyes in apology. I suppose that’s some sort of progress. To be called a traitor on the Fourth, even by an ignorant slob, is not what I had in mind for today.
I guess I’d better hold my nose and turn on CNN just in case we’re about to blow up. I really hate cable news.
Never underestimate the power of incompetence.
Believe me, I’m well aware that with the current crop of Republicans, there is no bottom. However, I think they may have reached the point where they have to tunnel through the Constitution to get much worse. Unfortunately, they are actively doing just that.
Japan says three (not four) missiles launched. The third, the long range one failed 40 seconds after launch.
- BBC World News
CNN: “We anticipate the first reaction from the Bush administration will come in the diplomatic arena…”
Uh-oh.
CNN: “We anticipate the first reaction from the Bush administration will come in the diplomatic arena…”
Uh-oh.
I’m hearing the Star Trek fight music now.
Brrrr-AH!
40 seconds is a lot of climb-time — oh man, no telling what/who it fell on.
neurophius @ 149 — I like that.
40 seconds is a lot of climb-time %u2014 oh man, no telling what/who it fell on.
When you’re starving your own people to death, you probably don’t care. Just so long as it didn’t land on any military assets.
(Kim Jong-Il perspective, of course)
John Bolton has been working the telephones heavily, CNN has been reporting … oh, oh, oh !
Maybe it made it out to sea. I dunno where that launch site is — do any of y’all?
The Bush administration is going to try, for the first time in its existence, to try diplomacy.
Would have been nice if they’d practiced somewhere else first.
John Casper says: “There is nothing preventing a State from attempting to secede.”
July 4th, 2006 at 2:53 pm (prior thread)
I haven’t read anything about this 1869 Supreme Court decision in years, but I think it will have a bearing on what you mentioned: Texas vs. White.
actually, 40 secs is the burn time of a first stage — John Pike (good guy) on CNN is wondering if it was just a planned 1st stage test. He also wants to know the trajectory: was it at the US or was it in a direction for orbital launch of a satellite?
Let’s see whether Condosleeza Rice can come up with another “mushroom cloud” remark in reference to North Korea.
And nuffa this jane attractive crap, jane could have three heads & we’d all still be attracted. Hell I’m attracted to every single one of y’all muthafuckas here that I bitch at and talk to and get strength from day in and out…
Just to get the diplomacy started out on the right foot.
Diplomacy,
Offering reward money in Afghanistan to turn your neighbor as a terrist and get $5,000 is Bush’s version of Dollar Diplomacy.
And nuffa this jane attractive crap, jane could have three heads & we’d all still be attracted.
Four.
And three tails.
Wull, THAT’s good news, sharkie, even to those of whut AIN’T muthafuckas. And backatcha, babe.
The missile site is in Yongbyon
http://www.globalsecurity.org/…..magery.htm
Missiles usually have phases that burn out carrying payloads in the upper phases…the worry is that the top phases could have nuclear or satellite payloads.
Mommybrain –
Thanks for your report — that you received flak on the Fourth of July is not sad; it is evidence of our power.
Remember — the First American Revolution was evenly divided: one third rebel patriots, one third loyalists/royalists, and one third neutral.
There is a great book in the libraries — The Progressive Presidents. TR, WW, FDR, and LBJ. I would include Lincoln, but his was a revolution to establish the rights of man.
But this begs the question — what do we call this American Revolution?
It was nice meeting you, Jane
Sorree,
I’m an Alpha Male and I just sorta notice stuff like that.
The missile site is in Yongbyon
Which is to the West. Wasn’t the launch in the general direction of Japan, to the East? So it would have passed over a pretty big chunk of NK, right?
somebody’s gonna have to give Condi directions to the diplomatic arena.
Thanks, kurotenshi — it sure didn’t make it to the coast then. As if the locals didn’t have enough to put up with from Dear Leader . . .
Eli – yes, that is correct.
I shudder when I think of John Bolton being in the thick of this…
lotus at 151:
The 1957 explosion of the Vanguard can be seen at http://www.centennialofflight……ch1G23.htm
(Sputnik fascinated me and I became National Champion Model Rocketeer a few years after that, before turning to law)
CNN is reporting that US experts doubt if NK can build a ruggedized, miniaturized nuke that can survive a missile launch. Simple atomic bombs are pretty big and fragile — making them teeny and tough requires very clever and expensive engineering …
Uh, oh. Lightning over here. The big Ranger in the sky has superior fireworks.
I think its trajectory would go over 150 km of NK land mass…at 6-8km/s…so it would of been overhead of NK citizens for around 25s…all of this total guesstimation of course. ;)
Totally OT: (is there a T?)
I’m reading “The Bubble of American Supremacy” by George Soros while waiting for the “The Age of Infallability” to arrive. It’s an easy read and I recommend it. I wonder if his writing has improved since “The Open Society” or if my mind has. I tried hard but just couldn’t get into it. Think I’ll try it again.
Soros’ style is dispassionate, sort of above the fray, yet his intelligence, care and concern are obvious. I’m really looking forward to our discussion.
I have read or heard that adult North Koreans are child-sized from malnutrition. Unspeakable.
More about Texas v. White: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White
“dad” at 174 — are you “The Kiss” guy?
I’m not so expensive.
BBC article on the NK missile program(s):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asi…..564241.stm
I have read or heard that adult North Koreans are child-sized from malnutrition. Unspeakable.
NK has got to be in the top five (or bottom five, as the case may be) of countries that are living hell if you’re not of the ruling class.
I love you Rayne – you are constant edification – your thinking and expression inspires me always – i’m not the only one I’m sure
((((vast hugs)))))
Go back up to the main story and down to the “update.” At the end of the video, see Jane and the pups.
ck, et al, thanks!
I see that Jane hasn’t lost her L.A. driving skills.
Lightning over here. The big Ranger in the sky has superior fireworks.
That would be the Big Truck Driver in the Sky — Man creates God in our own Image . . .
I think jHJ Jane has a doeppleganger:Woman here:www.stonecoyotes.com/
The possibility of the NK missile falling on it’s own population reminded me of a photo essay by Jonas Bendiksen about Kazakhstan’s spaceship junkyard. The Russians used to launch rockets and many would fail raining debris over the Kazakh population. Read about it here:
http://www.eurasianet.org/depa…..902.shtml#
See the beautiful, surreal photos here:
http://www.eurasianet.org/depa…..amp;ss=off
Jane-Hollywood? I had no idea….
You ARE immpressive (and your little dogs too!)
Hypatia @ 3:25 pm (#184) – My time in Korea gave me an idea how much diet has to do with the size of people. At the time, which was the late ’80s, Koreans who were over forty were almost all shorter than an average American, while those in their twenties and younger were similar to Americans in height. Those older folks grew up during the Japanese occupation and the Korean War, which were times of scarcity in Korea. Later on, they ate better, and their children grew considerably taller.
See the beautiful, surreal photos here:
#8 looks like “Kazakhstan Gothic”…
“If 30 percent of the Democrats come out and vote, that’s about 210,000 people,” Mr. Lieberman said. “That means 105,000 plus one will win the primary. There’s 2 million voters, registered voters, in the state of Connecticut. That would mean that 5 percent of the registered voters would have the opportunity to decide whether I continue to be Connecticut’s senator or not.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07…..r=homepage
Kyra Phillips: in last 15 minutes, 4th missile (short-range) launched.
twowolf1 – beautiful photos, interesting bit of info. thnx for the link. Incredibly surreal.
NORAD confirmed 4th missile
Cujo, the S. Koreans sure are turning out some amazing golfers these days.
little dog #118:
Forgot to mention in the earlier post, that I do remember Aerobee-hi. Aerojet was one of the major employers where I grew up.
John King is SO much better than any five other CNNers (Amanpour excepted).
It has been pretty well confirmed that the Iranians and the North Koreans will be so intimidated by our wonderful and glorious Iraqi victory that they will bow down on bended knee to the great and powerful United States.
-Theoretical quote from Deadeye Dick Cheney
Jane Hampsher –
Sweetheart of the Kobe Black Poodle Rabid Lambkin Brigades of the Fever Swamp Internets . . .
http://www.newhavenindependent…..poodle.php
lotus @ 3:36 pm (#205) – I don’t follow golf, but south Korea was clearly in transition when I was there. It’s become a modern country, and in a remarkably short time given where they started from in 1953. I think it just goes to show what education combined with ambition is capable of achieving.
I think it just goes to show what education combined with ambition is capable of achieving.
Education. That would be a nice thing to have a commitment to, at all levels.
Ambition, education, and that special East Asian solidarity of hunger to achieve, Cujo.
Lieberman has become a national treasure…that is, as an endless source of jokes.
Assimilated Press
Read “Lieberman Stock Trading At Record Lows” at:
http://assimilatedpress.blogspot.com/
ck @ 3:42 pm (#209) – Sweetheart of the Kobe Black Poodle Venomous Rabid Lambkin Brigades of the Fever Swamp Internets
Never disarm unilaterally!
U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton (who was not confirmed by Congress) is or was a member of PNAC.
PNAC is on record as calling for regime change in North Korea.
http://japanfocus.org/179.html
I wonder how PNAC would have us achieve regime change. The same way we did in Iraq?
apropos South Korean achievement: and lots and lots of US foreign aid to prove the superiority of free enterprise and capitalism and the American way of Life … and also more than 30 years of military/authoritarian rule…
neuro #215:
I doubt it. If we didn’t have enough boots on the ground to do Iraq properly (not arguing that it should’ve been) while threatening Iran, there won’t be nearly enough even to move the needle vs. North Korea. Now all we need is for China to move on Taiwan.
As the eminent philosopher-historian Yosemite Sam would’ve opined, “Neocons is sooooooo stupid!”
6 missiles tests in all, sez Ed Henry. Mostly SCUDish.
white house says NK tested 6 missiles. 2 were the long range ones
I have a question about the third-party race with Lieberman running as a .. um… independent somethingorother. Anyway, is he assuming that those republicans holding Lieb signs will vote for him come November? Is he sure about that?
For the republicans to be joyous of this means that they really think a republican can take this dem seat in November. Don’t think the republicans will stay loyal to Joe.
*ilson46201 @ 3:51 pm (#216) – Quite a few countries have received massive amounts of foreign aid. Korea is one of the few places outside Europe where it seems to have actually done some good. Korea started out as a place that had been plundered for half a century and then played host to a three-year war. Whatever they acheived they largely did on their own, except for our guarantee of security.
CNN is now reporting a second longrange Taepondong missile launch! Dang! Them Koreans know how to do 4th of July fireworks ! I hope a nuke blast isnt their planned grand finale…
except for our guarantee of security.
Which is beginning to look a bit shaky now, IMO. Seoul is effectively NK’s hostage against any American aggression.
Grandma, Joe has a lot of support from the Republican side in CT. Unfortunately, I do think that the majority of them will stay loyal to Joe.
After all, he’s been pretty loyal to them.
GrandmaJ #220:
Dig this passage from the Hartford Courant (hat tip to Lamb Leader kos):
“This is an earthquake happening in Connecticut politics,” said George Gallo, the Republican state chairman. “There is no other way to characterize it.”
Lieberman’s decision means that should he lose the primary, the Senate race would turn into a three-way contest in November, giving Republicans their best chance at winning a U.S. Senate seat in Connecticut since 1988, when Lieberman unseated a three-term Republican incumbent, Lowell P. Weicker Jr.
“I’m ecstatic,” Gallo said.
Kinda says it all.
the temperature in downtown Pyongyang at 8am is 67ºF but at 3am in Baghdad it’s 86ºF — it’s heating up in both places today !
I think those poodles are a publicity gimmick by Ms. Showbiz, and they’re actually rented. ;)
Grandma J at 220, what makes me nervous, is what if Joe-nertia writes off progressive/Dem voters and runs as a “centrist” while demonizing Lamont as a “librul.” Since a plurality of CT voters are unaffiliated, does that appeal to them?
Hi GrandmaJ –
The consensus here is that Leaverman is dumber than a box of rocks, and all of his actions hurt rather than help his chances.
Matt Stoller at MyDD thinks he is smart like a fox –
http://www.mydd.com/
Lieberman is a proud man, and an angry man. But he’s no dummy.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/7/3/175741/3966
Grandma, Joe has a lot of support from the Republican side in CT. Unfortunately, I do think that the majority of them will stay loyal to Joe.
Can he get enough Republican votes and Democratic votes to win in the general?
Also, is there any chance that he would have reconsidered this strategy if the DSCC and the rest of the Democratic establishment had told him in no uncertain terms that they would throw the full weight of their support behind Ned if he got the nom?
Obviously, this is is a very hypothetical question…
New thread…
Thanks Stephen Parrish, CPA, per my discussion on prior thread, I think it is a mistake to equate States Rights exclusively with the right of secession. Wisconsin for example rejected the Federal Fugitive Slave Act in the case of Joshua Glover. This was an example of a State leading/fighting/protecting Civil Rights against an unjust Federal law. A century later, it would be the Federal government interceding militarily against states who enforced the most blatant white supremacy laws, eg Alabama, Georgia … .
I say most blatant, because most states had at least some form of legalized white supremacy prior to the 1960’s passage of the Civil Rights legislation.
The question to me is, why even have a primary? If Joe’s going to run whether he loses the primary or not, why waste the time and money to have one?
new thread —
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..gle-women/
new thread
*ilson –
comments don’t seem to be working upstairs . . .
Not sure we’re seeing all of OFG’s post, either.
Did OFG break the blog?
Jim 24 %u2014 Be sure to add Bill Bennett. I believe he endorsed Boltin’ Joe on CNN last week
Did he lose a bet?
susan 34 – Let’s make Podunk the new national capitol!
Boys! I tell you . . .
Eli, yes, unfortunately he has a damn good chance of winning as an independent. Hell, his popularity is higher among Repubs than Dems.
All of which means that we have to do everything in our power to promote Lamont. For it most definitely feels like the more CT voters get to know him, the more they like him.
Boys and Sex in the City and Single Women political calculation — looks like a great post otherwise . . .
ck-
I think Lieberman is in fact a dummy. His 2004 presidential campaign was dreadful. His performance in the 2000 campaign was also dreadful.
Ooh, I’ve got an insider at the Quinnipiac Polling Institute, one of my son’s friends. They just completed a Florida poll and he thinks they’ll be returning to CT next.
He said he’ll keep me updated on what he’s hearing. If I get anything juicy I’ll let you all know.
Hey, DAD, Great float!!
O/T. Sort of.
South Korea, for all its economic success, is an environmental horror-show, hyper-development having left virtually no natural lands, waters, or wildlife. The only place left in peace is the DMZ, where one of the planet’s most endangered cranes, the white-naped, winters. Take a look at http://www.savingcranes.org/sp….._naped.cfm
to see what bird I am talking about. [I work on a project to save the most endangered of the cranes, and perhaps one day we can discuss the savage assault on the environment that seems to be the least discussed of the rapine conducted by this country’s band of malicious freebooters. ANWR is just the tip of the (melting!) iceberg.]
I assume that the behind-the-scenes wizards are fixing the front page and OFG’s post. Perhaps one of them would be kind enough to come back to this thread and let us know when it’s done. In the meantime, having met OFG at YKos, I can assure y’all that he could sell ice to the Inuit. It does not surprise me that his door to door campaign is successful. It probably even works with his male neighbors, but I’ll bet the women are not only eating out of his hand, but sneaking in a lick or two. :>)
Looks like the new thread is fixed. I see comments….
Hypatia, the General had an article about endangered birds…
http://patriotboy.blogspot.com…..3134789826
WHOA!!!!!!
I still don’t see a comments button on Oilfieldguy’s post. What about you all?
Neuro- I’m on a mac, there’s no comments button on mine but that’s because it’s all on one page, no REad the REst blah blah and all the comments are under OFG’s post.
I wonder if the GOP would get its folk to switch party affiliation for the primary in CT.
Rumors are flying fast and furious
I hope that the AFL-CIO is going to rescind the endorsement of a man who they were lead to believe is a Democrat is one of them.
Jane: Thanks for the images. “The Kiss” is all over Blogolandia today. But am I the only one who remembers the politically notorious Brezhnev Honecker smooch? Google the image. It was used a lot as the countries of Eastern Europe changed governments and left the Soviet system behind (more or less).
Meanwhile, Viva Italia (2-0 in the last seconds). For those of you who understand Italian and would like a different take on patriotism, I also recommend the last track, “Vivia Italia,” on the superlefty CD Appunti Partigiani by the Modena City Ramblers and other fine musicisti. JJ.