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The dogs and I were having a lovely iced tea on a patio in New Haven this morning with Paul Bass when Tim Tagaris called and said that Lieberman was giving a press conference in an hour. Tim swung by to pick us up and we all went tearing up to the state capital in Hartford at 90 mph. We still weren’t exactly sure why — Lieberman’s people had started making last minute phone calls to reporters, telling them that it was important, and as one reporter noted, "this better not be about the affordability of higher education or I’m going to be pissed."
It’s been a wild couple of days. Yesterday I had coffee with CTKeith and DeanFan84 who post at Dump Joe and My Left Nutmeg and got the whole history of the local blog scene and their advocacy for Lamont. It was very inspirational and I’ll certainly be writing more about it later, but for now suffice to say that it’s an impressive model for promoting progressive candidates throughout the country — at the very least they’ve forced an 18 year incumbent and former Vice Presidential nominee out of the party.<%
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Lieberman is pathetic.
Fitz!!!!
CNN running a piece on netroots and Joe now – talking about netroots raising over $300k for Lamont. Says it Lamont wins, netroots definitely win a place at the table.
BobbyG: so right and so first.
That video is amazing. It’s impossible to imagine somebody running more scared of his own party than this. I hope this move turns out to be pure political self-immolation.
Independent Democrat.
All I can think of is Inego Montoya.
“I do not think that word means what you think it means.”
neurophius — you asked for the FDL Act Blue page link, so here it is:
http://www.actblue.com/page/firedoglake
Firedoglake Donation Page for Lamont at ActBlue.
Join the celebration!
Plus Rasmussen (June 12) has Lamont within SIX points of Loserman.
Good day for the good guys!
Go Ned!
It won’t matter whether Ned wins. No matter how it shakes out, nobody can ever again scoff at the power of the netroots.
Lieberman progressive??? Only if you consider rubber-stamping the current administrative as progressive. He strikes me as being so desperate to hold on to power that he’s willing to destroy his own party in the process, not to mention disrespecting the voters who no longer support him.
poodles at Joe’s presser, too, Jane?
Oh Ned is going to win alright. Have you seen his new ad about what the Iraq $$$ would do in US?
Remeber that Joe has always been about himself. Wouldn’t step down as a Senator when he ran with Gore, risking the seat.
I posted this Lieberman graphic from a Kos diary earlier today here and got zero comments. I’ll try again:
http://www.dailykos.com/commen…..966/29#c29
Don’t know if you have seen this yet, but if not,
GO TO CROOKSandLIARS NOW!
Murray Waas has a hot one.
(if this is old news, sorry, if not, we are salivating at the thought of Christy’s next post)
Go Ned! I’m suddenly reminded of a nice morbid tune from Oklahoma:
Poor Joe is dead,
poor Joe-Nertia’s dead,
all gather round his coffin now and cry;
He couldn’t stand the taunts
of the Roots and Ned Lamont
so Boltin’ Joe’s campaign just had to die.
And on a completely OT, self-aggrandizing note, Happy Birthday to me. *g*
Poor Joe,
I am so tired of watching this mongrel self-bloviate.
Ask 10 different people here in Connecticut why they oppose Joe Lieberman and you’ll get 10 different answers.
I guess there are virtually limitless possible variations of “gutless Republican weasel”…
Rally sign:
Democrat *OR* Independent
PICK ONE
Can the CT Dem Party legally stop him from calling himself an “Independent Democrat”? In the context of elections, doesn’t the name of a political party have some sort of trademark-ish protections?
Here’s a take from the BBC that appears to have been put in the can prior to Lieberman’s announcement today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5140778.stm
CNN about to cover Lieberman’s announcement now.
bon anniversaire, Leslie in CA
Yeah, Joe couldn’t wait until after the debate to leave the party, because that would look like he lost the debate. But, having left the party BEFORE the debate, won’t Nutmeg Dems who watch the debate have yet another reason to be pissed at Joe? I mean, who’s gonna watch this debate? Just Dems, right?
And Jane, as usual, has the message right: Joe’s left the party. Repeat as needed: Joe’s left the party.
it was dem scary poodles i tells ya!
Joe is robo-calling folks, pushing the meme that he is an “Independent Democrat.”
Yeah, kissing the ass of the party in power is real independent.
Bad enough that he betrays his party and his state, but he wants to make it sound courageous and heroic, to boot.
Waas bombshell: Bush his own bad self told Cheney to do the dirty deed on Valerie whats-her-name ! http://news.nationaljournal.co…..703nj1.htm
merci, punaise
CNN (J. King) about to interview JL.
Says it Lamont wins, netroots definitely win a place at the table.
This. Is. Why. He. MUST. Win.
ET at 14, I didn’t see that earlier – good graphic. I especially like the Netroots scissors snipping his strings.
Leslie in CA – (from my favorite Boynton card)
(sing it with me!)
Hippo, birdy, two ewes
Hippo, birdy, two ewes
Hippo, Birdy Dear venomous rabid lamb of the left,
Hippo, Birdy, two ewes
‘chachacha, adds Luke.
EPUed. Sigh.
Don’t be hatin’ on “Goalposts Joe.” He’s waiting for his pension to vest.
Okay, my turn to be a WATB.
Ever since I updated my Quicktime software, I get tons of “Quicktime Q’s with a Question Mark” instead of a viewable video. (I am running Safari 2.0.4 on OSX 10.4.7. Quicktime-Free verson 7.1.2.)
There was something that suggested I reinstall an earlier version, but all attempts to do so came with a warning “Your machine cannot run this reinstaller update” message.
Anyone else have this problem? I checked the Apple support msg boards, but no one had discussed…
I MISS my Videos! : (
Three poodles and Jane at 90 mph ! What a mental picture! Stunt man Joe sure is an embarrasment.
Eli – precisely, they are chosing this to test us so we better win!
Also, we have to watch the meme being used that the opposition to Lieberman is over his support for the war since the netroots support for Lamont is not simply an antiwar position … this places antiwar politics on the table as well.
Isn’t it a little hot for a vest, watertiger, dear?
What. A. Wanker.
Afternoon, Eli…
Leslie in CA,
so much fodder this week for the comedians – Joe, Ted, now Bush/Cheney? Are Stewart and Colbert off this week?
Holy Crap, RevDeb at 15. It’s news to me. Must go read.
Chris Dodd statement, from his website, is softer than initial reposts indicated. He’s still leaving himself room:
Statement of Senator Dodd on Senator Lieberman’s Announcement to Begin Circulating Petitions
“Senator Lieberman’s decision is one that I’m sure he has not made lightly, and it reflects his commitment to continue to serve the people of our state in the United States Senate. That decision does not in any way change the fact that Joe Lieberman remains a candidate for the Democratic nomination. I continue to support is candidacy for the nomination, and continue to believe that he will be the Democratic nominee of our party.”
Mommybrain,
Swwwwwwweltering!
Reid and the DSCC have reinforced their support for Lieberman in the primary per CNN statements and will not commit to supporting winner of the primary.
Dana B says – astutely – that even if they “support” the winner of the primary, they can limit that support and thus undercut Lamont.
*ilson46201 26 -
Wow. So, is Bush implictly/effectively throwing Cheney under the bus?
siun your 36 is so on the money!!!
JEEZus, *ilson!
important point EPU’d from last thread:
Eli – precisely, they are chosing this to test us so we better win!
If we can’t beat a worthless fake Dem like Joe in a blue state, with the full weight and passion of the netroots, and a strong candidate with money of his own, it will be a severe blow to our credibility.
*Maybe* we would carry some weight in terms of general elections, but we need DINO congresscritters to feel fear, and that will only happen if we start collecting scalps. And Joe’s is held on with two-decade-old rubber cement.
Hiya, Cap’n!
Joe must’ve been a lot of fun to play games with when he was a child.
I’d say the petition signature drive is Lieberman’s Plan B, except Joe doesn’t like Plan B.
siun…
I will say it again….maybe this time everyone won’t attack me ….FUCK REID and the bush donkey he rode in on.
great! CNN showing ActBLue page for Lieberman and Lamont – Joe total of 9 donors compared to 5000 for Lamont.
siun 43
Then the question to ask these Democratic Party leaders is this:
You mean you’d even THINK about supporting someone running AGAINST the duly-elected Democratic nominee?
Larry – not everyone attacks that viewpoint.
Joe looks like crap on CNN. Look at the eyes… he’s scared.
great! CNN showing ActBLue page for Lieberman and Lamont – Joe total of 9 donors compared to 5000 for Lamont.
I’m sure he’s totally kicking Lamont’s ass on the ActPurple and ActRed pages.
Punaise 47
Oooh! I’ve never had an epu’d post ressurected by somebody else!
Thanks!!
To all…sorry about my comment @52
Larry
so far good interview … John King pressing Joe hard
Nice to see ya, Eli, seems like you’re movin’ and shakin’ with miz Jane these days…lucky fer you.
Did anyone else leave the sound on for Joe the Wanker? I was watching the blog segment; the news about the on-line contris was *fun*–a cool quarter-mil for Lamont. Bitchin’!!
Eli @57,
is there an “Act Yellow” site?
Joe trying to claim he will still be a dem
mentions that Reid and Schumer were notified
and says they are “working their heart out to return me to the senate”
Joe slamming Lamont wealth – someone get Joe’s financials please!
First time poster, love this site.
There was one truly prescient post at Talking Points Memo when the Harriet Miers controversy erupted. Josh Marshall wrote, “Who is strongly for her?” Because if there is fierce opposition to anyone (or anything) there needs to be an equally fierce counterforce for the person or idea or thing to prevail. Marshall went on to say he was convinced her nomination would be defeated or withdrawn because no one would go to the mattresses for her.
I think the same litmus test applies to Lieberman–who is truly for him? Because there is fierce opposition, and the best he can muster as support is a bunch of DC-based finger-in-the-wind Dems making tepid comments about “long-time respect for Joe” and not deciding upon who they will support until after the primary. That’s hardly a counterbalance to the rising tide for Lamont. Joe is toast. His only hope for a strong counterforce is Hannity, Rush, Fox News. Oh my.
So, has Gore commented at all on the CT primary? Has anyone asked him if he will support the Democratic nominee in CT?
King is pushing hard … what will Dem leaders do, what can you say about the position you’ve put your friends in …etc
is there an “Act Yellow” site?
Tons of ‘em. Powerline, LGF, The Corner, TNR…
back to Bush/Cheney after reading the full Waas story: Bush tasked Cheney to deal with the whole Wilson kerfuffle but didnt expressly tell him to throw Valerie under the bus. Cheney was delegated the responsibility to deal with minimizing the Wilson brouhaha. It was his ball of wax…
and your little dog, too . . . . 58
sometimes the cream needs a little help rising to the top….
Mommybrain –
Hippo, birdy, two ewes
Hippo, birdy, two ewes
Hippo, Birdy Dear venomous rabid lamb of the left,
Hippo, Birdy, two ewes
Decades from now, when some historian searching the national firedoglake sacred archives discovers this, there will much scratching of heads trying to figure out what this code meant.
I know it’s bad, but I can’t help myself.
I’m watching CNN interview Lieberman, and the way his lips move, all I can think of is Jack Nicholson as the Joker in Batman.
John King is asking fabulous questions! Just like a real reporter.
Leslie in CA – HAPPY BIRTHDAY :,) with roman candles…
“why have parties and why have primaries if the candidates who may have support from the establishment but not the support of the people can take out an insurance policy”
John King nails it!
x-posted at:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/7/3/1644/53008
This is Chris Dodd’s big chance.
The Democrats running for President are coming to the realization that not only is Lieberman an anvil hanging onto their necks, but actively supporting Ned Lamont will show the precise type of testicular fortitude expected of them by the committed Democratic base of liberals, progressives and those truly dedicated people they’ll soon be aggressively courting in Iowa and New Hampshire. The first Democrat looking at the ’08 nomination for President to come out for Lamont will receive a groundswell of activist credibility and support. After one of them makes the leap, expect to see a run for the door as several others attempt to capitalize on the good will as well.
Of all of those running in ‘08, Chris Dodd has the most to gain from this narrow endorsement window of opportunity. Unshackled as he is today as a result of Lieberman’s latest traitorous snub at the Connecticut Democratic party, Dodd has the opportunity to take back his endorsement of Holy Joe. The easy and popular path will be to couch it in a simple: “I will support the winner of my party’s primary.”
The harder path is doing what is really in Dodd’s heart, which is go all the way and endorse Ned Lamont, whom I suspect Senator Dodd privately supports. Dodd has been burned by Lieberman’s behavoir as much and as many times as any Democrat in D.C. An endorsement by Dodd will be wildly popular among those constituents of his who really care about this race. On balance, reaching out to Lamont weighs heavily in Dodd’s favor politically and personally.
Dodd now has a short lived opportunity to give his incipient presidential bid a big shot of adrenaline among those he needs most in 2008. In fact, the few days will be Chris Dodd’s BIGGEST and perhaps only chance to splash into the national Democratic activist limelight. There are no two ways around this, right now is that rare opportunity for immediate national legitimacy among those who matter most to him and the only chance he’ll likely get between now and the beginning of the Iowa caucus. If he truly is serious about running, and he’s thinking hard on it right now, he has a very narrow window to do himself a very big favor. This opportunity is huge, but it will have a short shelf life.
The other upside for Dodd is this. Lamont is a cause celebre for “the Democratic wing of the Democratic party.” Does Dodd want Ned Lamont campaigning and fundraising for him in the months leading up to Iowa, or does Chris Dodd want Ned Lamont to take the easily state position: “I will support my party’s nominee in 2008.”? A few months ago, the handicappers wouldn’t give Ned Lamont a snicker. In a few months, “candidate Dodd” may need “Senator Lamont” more than Senator Lamont needs candidate Dodd. Whatever happens, if Senator Dodd does throw his hat in the presidential ring, it will never fly with a Lieberman anvil still clinging to it.
sláinte,
cl
My apologies.. especially to you siun….my comment @52 was not to imply that you have attacked that viewpoint….
july 3rd – independant’s day
back to Bush/Cheney after reading the full Waas story: Bush tasked Cheney to deal with the whole Wilson kerfuffle but didnt expressly tell him to throw Valerie under the bus. Cheney was delegated the responsibility to deal with minimizing the Wilson brouhaha. It was his ball of wax…
“I just told him to disclose classified information – I didn’t expect him to do anything *illegal*!”
Ooo — Leslie in CA — Happy Birthday to you!
Liberman is making this “will we impose a litmus test” on the WOT … painting Lamont as not caring for the safety of american families
Of course, Sanctimonious Joe wants this to be All About Iraq and Litmus Tests.
Fuck him and his piece-of-shit “loyalties”.
sometimes the cream needs a little help rising to the top….
Must… remember… where I am… Must… bite… tongue…
we obviously need to be doing a better job getting the message out that this is not just about Iraq. CNN has made Iraq the only issue in the primary.
Linda 72
Dang it. I’m TiVoing the YKos panel on C-Span and can’t watch CNN at the same time.
Thanks for keeping us posted on the interview.
Ed*ard Teller at 12:58
That is a great graphic. Says it all.
Hate to interupt the euphoria about Joe, but OT Murray Waas has an article in the NJ today “Bush Directed Cheney to Counter War Critic”. The entire article can be picked up on Demo Underground site too.
Lieberman keeps repeating the phrase “insurance policy” when describing his announcement.
Would this be “unemployment insurance?”
Schadenfreud? I’m soaking in it! Watertiger sounds hot. Always room for one more ;)
Of course, Sanctimonious Joe wants this to be All About Iraq and Litmus Tests.
Litmus tests detect lyes, right?
Larry – thanks.
Dodd has already announced his continued support for Joe.
King – why not leave your party at the beginning, why the primary
“I just told him to disclose classified information – I didn’t expect him to do anything *illegal*!”
_____
If Bush does/authorizes it, it’s not “illegal,” right?
Joe: “who knows who might turn out to vote in the Democratic primary on a hot August day?”
Way to insult the Dem primary voters, Joe.
Sorry *ilson, I just read your comment.
Addington told Libby that the Preznit and/or Veep had “broad authority” to declassify …
Joe claims he is “diversity in this party” …
Waas!
If Bush does/authorizes it, it’s not “illegal,” right?
Yes, you’re right. “Leaking to the press” is the new procedure for declassifying sensitive information. Who knew?
Litmus tests detect lyes, right?
Eli, I knew you’d be a hit over here. Just don’t let it go to your head…or the Atriots will come on over, and you WILL be stopped.
Joe claims he is “diversity in this party”…
Perversity, maybe…
Eli, I knew you’d be a hit over here. Just don’t let it go to your head…
Probably no cause for concern there…
Geez…I didn’t mean to bring the traffic to a halt. JK!! JK!!!
Arrgh, I’ve been caught in the moderation filters . . .
Moderators are my friends
Moderators are my friends
Moderators are my friends
(Let’s see if that works. Reloading page . . .)
siun @#93
if by diversity he means Republican, that is a true statement.
HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO LESLIE IN CA — WOOHOO!!!
Funny how “diversity” never includes, y’know, Democrats who actually support *Democratic* policies…
Joe Lieberman: Individual democrat for 2006
That is some crazy spin.
Schadenfreud? I’m soaking in it!
I think it’s spelled “Nedenfreude”.
Funny how “diversity” never includes, y’know, Democrats who actually support *Democratic* policies…
Diversity, not insanity. Only a bunch of real wackjobs on the left support Democratic policies.
OFG – yep!
John King was brilliant! sending him a thank you for asking the real questions
Joe’s continued comments that he has DSCC support is important – they must be made to understand that we will not forgive support for Joe.
Well, kids, it’s a fascinating if predicted development. Lieberman is a narcissistic opportunist, it’s right there in DINO. Democratic Independent Narcissistic Opportunist. The question is, whose opportunity. I say Ned’s.
Murray is a hero, a true American. Thanks Murray.
I am kind of sick, so am going to just read along, but wanted to share in the celebration here. I think it’s important to note that Joe is the one creating all the insanity in this race, Ned is just doing what an American can do under the Constitution. Less politics, more students and honesty. Joe, well, not so much, kinda more political maneuvering, WATB and nastiness. Had enough? (thanks Teddy)
Leslie in CA – Have a great one!
Joe’s continued comments that he has DSCC support is important – they must be made to understand that we will not forgive support for Joe.
Is there any mechanism to force Schumer out as DSCC chair for gross malfeasance? Especially if, say, Joe runs as an independent and ends up throwing the seat to the Republicans?
(Any other outcome could probably be spun as either “No harm, no foul” or “We meant to do that”…)
so gang … did you know that Harry Reid has a blog?
Someone on dkos just posted the link and suggested Harry might like some comments:
http://giveemhellharry.com/pag…..group/vips
Punaise,
your 69 is the best..
nothing personal.
GO NED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(trying to sneak past the filters . . . )
Lieberman’s “insur*nce p*licy” sounds like unemployment insur*nce to me . . .
Peterr, you are funny.
This tactic of Lieberman is making a laughingstock of the political process, and as such, all those currently in office, who achieved that position through the political process, should immediately denounce this perverted end run that is doomed for failure. Support the voters, do not poke them in the eye, and rebuke those politicians who choose to flaunt the will of the people.
Joe’s continued comments that he has DSCC support is important – they must be made to understand that we will not forgive support for Joe.
Over at Eschaton, this here guy opined :
“You heard it here first: the DSCC and the DCCC will confirm that they do not care one little [deleted] about their constituents. They will pay a price for this, but sadly, so will we.”
They still think it’s *their* party, not *ours*.
Also, just cause my kids knew her kids, the writer who coines “Hippo birdie two ewes” is Sandra Boynton, who lives in NW Connecticut, and could likely be a Lamont voter.
Small world.
Lieberman’s “insur*nce p*licy” sounds like unemployment insur*nce to me . . .
But does it cover “Acts of Ned”?
I just saw Joe on the Situation Room, I hope somebody posts the video and breaks it down because, well, he comes off as an arrogant, opportunistic lying sack of shit.
Eli – not sure but …
even if the DSCC claims to support Lamont, they can withold real support – limit contributions, not go out to speak for him, etc …
for example, while Obama only gave Lieberman $4200 this cycle, his appearances are noted for raising large amounts of money from others … will Obama go and speak *for* Lamont or decide to be too busy…
this is why we need to press hard now – the DSCC needs to understand that we will fight them on this
I’m thinking we may need a petition of netroots pledging no money to DSCC if they do not immediately pledge to support the winner of the primary and then actively support that winner. Put them on notice now!
punaise,
Don’t know if you saw this yesterday, but this Opus is for you.
But not to worry, we’ve got your back.
Chuck Schumer as head of the DSCC is elected by incumbent Democratic Senators only. only!
Peterr – you nailed it. The filters don’t like *nsurance salesmen.
flounder 120
and your point is…
Its so awesome watching this unfold. We have got to purge the Charlatan Democrats from the party and Lieberman is the perfect place to start. Netroots in f**kin’ action baby.
There is something happen’ here and its entirely clear what it is. Its an epistemological shift. This used to be known as a generational shift but its different this time, this shift has more to do with whether or not one is in denial of current state of U.S. political situation (namely Iraq) or not. I’m not in denial, its F.u.b.a.r. Wish it weren’t but wishing won’t fix it. Time to get back to back to our roots as Liberals. Lieberman will be the first major political causticity of something that started with Bill Clinton, being a Republican Lite, time to get back on track. Go Ned!!! Knock him with a Left hook, he won’t know what hit him. I love this so mouch. Go Jane, I like this on the road thing, who said bloggers couldn’t do that sort of thing. Woo Woo.
siun at 79:
Liberman is making this “will we impose a litmus test” on the WOT … painting Lamont as not caring for the safety of american families
Hmmm, where have I heard that before? Oh, yeah, from the Republicans! Good job proving our point once again, Joe!
siun,
who is the regional rep for Oklahoma in the DSCC? I need to make some calls.
I’m thinking we may need a petition of netroots pledging no money to DSCC if they do not immediately pledge to support the winner of the primary and then actively support that winner. Put them on notice now!
What about pledging to not just withhold, but to redirect to Lamont?
Nomination for the Most Arrogant Statement I’ve Heard Today:
Joe Lieberman to John King: I want to give my fellow Democrats here in Connecticut the opportunity to affirm my service . . .
(have to run out for groceries before everything shuts for the 4th – back in a few! can I get anyone anything?)
This is less about Schadenfreude than about Lieb-as-toad.
siun
I’m looking for a good hedge trimmer to take out some Bushes.
GREAT WORK FDL:
http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/9354
DINO JOE even made a slpash across the pond:
“Lieberman fights for political life”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5140778.stm
Hayduke 124
I don’t want to purge anybody from the party. A vote is a vote.
But I sure don’t want these DINO’s to defeat real Democrats.
Happy Birthday, Leslie in CA
OFG – I’m guessing the Western VC? here’s the list again:
Phone numbers;
DSCC leadership phone numbers – call Reid and Schumer and then your regional leader and Lincoln as the women’s leader:
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee at 202-224-2447
Harry Reid 202-224-3542
Nevada Senator/ Senate Democratic Leader
Charles Schumer 202-224-6542
New York Senator, DSCC Chair
Barbara Boxer 202-224-3553
California Senator/ California Vice Chair
Barack Obama 202-224-2854
Illinois Senator/ Midwest Vice Chair
Mark Pryor 202-224-2353
Arkansas Senator/ Southern Vice Chair
Jack Reed 202-224-4642
Rhode Island Senator/ Northeast Vice Chair
Ron Wyden 202-224-5244
Oregon Senator/ Western Vice Chair
Blanche Lincoln 202-224-4843
Arkansas Senator/ Women’s Senate Network Chair
(brb)
Posted at Raw Story:
Bush Directed Cheney To Counter War Critic
By Murray Waas, National Journal
National Journal Group Inc.
Monday, July 3, 2006
President Bush told the special prosecutor in the CIA leak case that he directed Vice President Dick Cheney to personally lead an effort to counter allegations made by former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV that his administration had misrepresented intelligence information to make the case to go to war with Iraq, according to people familiar with the president’s statement.
Siun…one can never have enough Jamesons
Will anyone think I’m weird if I admit I have always had a little crush on Jon Corzine?
That’s what I meant, purge w/ a vote.
Redshift,
Look for more of this. Joe’s campaign is very Bushleague.
Larry #125, my point is I hope this didn’t get missed by others who have the time to fact check his B.S. and put it out on Ted Steven’s pipes.
siun,
Chocolate Ben and Jerry’s.
It’s hot and I have a fever!
thanks
love
zen
Hayduke 138
I thought so. Unfortunately, the anti-democratic types love to latch on to a word like purge and make like we’re freaking Pol Pots. :(
RevDeb 120
Thanks for the Opus! saw that in the SF Chronicle yesterday but couldn’t find a link to post it here.
Zennurse,
‘I send you white light and reiki. I hope you feel better, soon.
Sandra Boynton made the 80’s ok for me. I just loved her puns and critters. If your kids ever see her, have them give her a hug for me.
Synchronicity still rules.
BobbyG @ 1:17 pm (#89) – No, what’s happened is that Bush has washed his hands of the matter. He told Cheney to deal with a PR problem, and Cheney broke the law doing it. That’s his story, anyway. It’s at least theoretically possible that this story is true, I think. If Cheney didn’t get a document declassified per the procedures, then he may be in some trouble there. The EO covering classification does not give the VP declassification authority over other people’s documents, which is what the NIE was (the CIA produced it). There was a procedure he was supposed to follow, and Bush is saying he instructed Cheney to do that. Cheney instead just leaked the document.
Of course, all this is “according to Bush”, except the part about responsibility for the NIE and the Veep’s declassification authority.
Someone on the previous thread asked whether Lieberman could use the title “independent democrat” on the ballot. Apparently, the answer is no. A Connecticut blogger tracked down the relevant election code section, and it’s posted over at Kos.
http://kos.dailykos.com/
LindaR-
Today you can have anything you want, he’s yours!
I thought so. Unfortunately, the anti-democratic types love to latch on to a word like purge and make like we’re freaking Pol Pots. :(
Well, we all know how much the Republicans respect dissenting voices within their own party. All they ask is that we do the same…
suin 119
et al, Here’s a “blog check” that is downloadable especially for the DSCC and Lamont.
KRISTY
KRISTY
KRISTY
Look what I found for you to play in memory of desperate Joe Joe
DESPERADO ~ Eagles unplugged
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..=desperado
Screw you Joe. Right in the ear.
Oh, and Christy…something to read with your morning coffee:
New Waas: http://news.nationaljournal.co…..703nj1.htm
Nothing too major, but a good read as always.
I personally think it was NED’s campaign ads that spooked Joey:
‘Students’
http://nedlamont.com/blog/451/ned-ad-students
‘Signs of Change’
http://nedlamont.com/blog/466/…..-of-change
VERY CREATIVE. GO NED GO!!!
zennurse 145 — ooh goody.
Donna Brazile just said the DSCC has to support the winner of the Primary
Boltin’ Joe is gonna rue the day he laughed at Ned Lamont.
Donna Brazile just said the DSCC has to support the winner of the Primary
It’s kinda in their title, and presumably in their charter as well…
punaise, RevDeb
I kind of liked the Doonesbury rerun yesterday . . .
http://www.uclick.com/client/w…..index.html
LindaR: some New Jersey Governors like girls, others like guys …
zennurse, honey, I hope you feel 100% better PRONTO!
When we got to the capital there was a team of fresh-scrubbed young people in Lieberman t-shirts with Lieberman signs who locals have been referring to as the “Lieber-Youth.” (I asked two of them later if they were paid or volunteers %u2014 one robotically said “oh we’re volunteers” but the other rolled her eyes and shrugged in response. It was pretty clear %u2014 unlike Ned’s campaign, which is full of enthusiastic volunteers, Joe’s “supporters” have the meter on.)
I seem to recall that one of the things that killed Lieberman’s 2004 run was that he had at least two of his kids pulling down six-figure salaries (I think they were getting the equivalent of $200k/year), said salaries making up a big chunk of the campaign’s budget.
Hi, mommybrain, I’m sure her kids are off at college by now, my boys lived there over 10 years ago with their dad. They don’t go back, but they said she had a really cool studio with her funny critters all over. Her stuff was everywhere back then. She and a bunch of local friends from the Canaan area put out a CD of opera sung as pigs. It was a hoot.That area is full of celebrities like Meryl streep, Whoopi, Jill Clayburgh and lots of authors and writers.
Sorry, OT, just blathering.
I like John King as an interviewer. He calls Bull***t more than most, it seems to me.
Peterr 157 – yep
I like John King as an interviewer. He calls Bull***t more than most, it seems to me.
Would it be too much to ask for Blitzer and Cafferty to maybe… switch places?
peterr.
yep, that’s a keeper.
The DSCC does not care about our money. They get more money elsewhere, and Schumer is a great fundraiser.
They want our votes. They want our turnout. They want our vocal buzz machine to help out.
Those are our only immediate sources of leverage.
Bay Buchannan just said that Bush low numbers are due to loss of trust, not policies!
*ilson 158 — New Jersey is an infinitely varying cornucopia of possibility.
Punaise
My wife with the PhD in microbiology liked it too!
Mommybrain at 32, lol – thanks!
Eureka Springs, AR, LindaR, siun, lotus – many thanks for the birthday wishes. I’m a believer in extended birthdays myself, so I kicked it off with a second viewing of An Inconvenient Truth with some friends on Saturday, and the Drinking Liberally / Roots get-together on Thursday will also be part of the festivities, because it’s a gift to have such great like-minded folk that I can meet up with. And all of you, my virtual friends and co-venomous lambs, are another part of my celebration, and one of the things I’m grateful for this fine day. You, and FDL, give me hope for the future.
Pach,
Selise, sitting here at my house says, “if they get our “checks” back they realize they don’t have our votes either.”
Deb, that check is great!!! I remember you described it to us a while ago.
And Linda R-
“zennurse 145 %u2014 ooh goody.”
But I get Feingold.
And lotus, thanks, I’m just fishing for sympathy, here because nobody’s home. Even the cat doesn’t care, it’s to nice outside.
Peterr 169
My wife with the PhD in microbiology liked it too!
yet you, a man of the cloth… :~)
Bay Buchannan just said that Bush low numbers are due to loss of trust, not policies!
Wait, I thought it was because he had stepped off of the One True Path of conservative Republicanism?
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ zennurse }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
feel better!
zennurse — Democratic men are yummy.
He’s as honest and open about his internal polling as he has been about the war. What an A-hole.
Eli–
NTodd was saying nasty things about you at Duncan’s place. Was he kidding, or have you two been at sixes and sevens?
(I have no idea if that means what I wanted it to mean, I just like saying “at sixes and sevens”…
NTodd was saying nasty things about you at Duncan’s place. Was he kidding, or have you two been at sixes and sevens?
Umm, not that I know of… What was he saying?
Joe’s “internal” polling – he consulted his innards and found something lacking:
gut and run
“Lieberman is making this “will we impose a litmus test” on the WOT – painting Lamont as not caring for the safety of american families”
emptywheel had a post that addressed this this morning:
“Telecommunications Timewarp”
“When I beat up on Jason Leopold for some confusion in an article on domestic spying, I keyed on one detail. He was claiming Bush set up the program Risen and Lichtblau had revealed before 9/11.
Still, one thing that appears to be indisputable is that the NSA surveillance began well before 9/11 and months before President Bush claims Congress gave him the power to use military force against terrorist threats, which Bush says is why he believed he had the legal right to bypass the judicial process….
Emphasis is mine.
Why didn’t the spying catch Osama’s people?
siun, thank you for all you do. This and previous threads shows off how much CT experience and specific electoral insight and experience you bring. I do not claim to know what Ned’s talking points should be. I just thought I’d mention this one.
Ok, that’s enough sympathy for zennurse, I feel guilty now. (but hi and thanks teddy my dear)
And oooops, Best Happy birthday Leslie, I love week-long birthdays, too.
Peterr @ 1:40 pm (#157) – If only the world really rewarded stupidity that way.
What was he saying?
I quote: “Eli sucks ass.”
Of course, it was after I mentioned I was over here keeping you from getting a big head, so I expect he was kidding. Just thought I’d check.
Joe’s “internal” polling – he consulted his innards and found something lacking:
gut and run
Which is why he deserves a cutting pun.
Thanks RevDeb at 15. That is an interesting revelation on Bush/Cheney and the Plame case.
Of course, it was after I mentioned I was over here keeping you from getting a big head, so I expect he was kidding. Just thought I’d check.
That’s probably it. I think.
OT – but has anyone discussed the Murray Waas article re Bush/Plame?
zenn
selise, KathrynMA and I are sending our hugs your way too! We’re working on “stuff” for the MA group at my house today–in between power outages.
xxoo
Eureka Springs #35:
Which of the poodles was driving, did she say?
zennurse, sending healing thoughts and virtual Ben & Jerry’s your way. Feel better!
Peterr, great cartoon.
and your little dog too . . ., thanks. (Did I ever tell you I do a really good Wicked Witch cackle?)
Joe is polling in the sixes and sevenses.
BTW, nothing on NPR re: Lieberman. NASA, Middle East, music reviews, now Wimbleton.
I know, NPR, I, know.
(Did I ever tell you I do a really good Wicked Witch cackle?)
Oddly enough, so do I…
when is Lamont’s presser?
Hey, Eli.
Nice to see you.
In response to some queries earlier, Howard Dean has previously stated that the DNC will not get involved in the primary, and will support the nominee. Gore has also publicly declined to get involved in the primary on either side.
What’s remarkable about the current situation is that those two statements are considered remarkable.
Deb, I am sosososo far behind on email, and I know there’s stuff there from Roots, so here’s my mea culpa. I bet you’re having fun, thanks for the hug. Back atcha all.
No more whining, lying down again.
Play nice.
Hiya, DWD! What’s shakin’?
Cujo 145 -
Yeah, hear ya.
“The EO covering classification does not give the VP declassification authority over other people’s documents, which is what the NIE was (the CIA produced it).”
_____
Well,Cheney thinks he HAS the inherent authority to declassify stuff ad hoc as he sees fit.
Look the shit in the Jane Mayer New Yorker piece on Addington. Addington and Cheney were/are actually running the administration, deciding who got to see what — and that includes the Vacationer-in-Chief.
http://www.newyorker.com/print…..03fa_fact1
Who is saying nasty things about Eli? Sweet, adorable, loving Eli? No way.
I have a question, because I am not completely familiar with Connecticut Election Law. So if Lieberman is now collecting signatures for an Independent, and let’s call it that, none of this petitioning crap Democrat, exactly who is allowed to sign these petitions?
Are Democrats allowed to sign them, if they already signed a Democratic Petition?
John Casper at 1:50 pm
In 2001, the Bush Administration ordered the FBI to shut down it’s investigation of the Bin Ladens. Osama wasn’t on BushCo’s radar, but other Bin Laden’s have a long financial history with the Bush Family. It was a Bin Laden that put up the cash to bail out one of Junior’s failing oil companies. (Arbusto?)
If the real story of 9/11 ever comes out, there will be no place in the world safe for Bush to hide.
John Casper at 183, Why didn’t the spying catch Osama’s people?
Because it was never meant to. If we ever get the details on this, we will find out that W has been doing uber-Nixonian spying on “suspect” Americans and political foes, potential or otherwise, since day one.
Eli, if we ever meet in person we can have a cackle contest (a Cack-Off?).
paging darkblack (my second request today): could you do something with Petticoat Junction = Turncoat Joe’unction?
newtonusr at 169:
Bay Buchannan just said that Bush low numbers are due to loss of trust, not policies!
Well, I’d have to agree with that. Most of his policies never had much support, but he got people to go along by lying about them (”Clear Skies Initiative,” for example, or “we’re only tapping the phones of terrorists.”) Once people stopped trusting him, support for his policies couldn’t be artificially inflated by lies.
But I guess that’s probably not what she meant by it… *g*
Pach, at 1:43 pm, excellent point about the money.
Congratulations to you, Christy, and Jane. Without your efforts last January?, I don’t think Ned would be here today.
IMHO, I would add that the DSCC also fear FDL’s, Kos’ and others’ ability to influence the traditional media.
OT IMO, Ned’s strongest issue, and the one Joe just handed him today, is that Joe just basically admitted he is not a Democrat.
Who is saying nasty things about Eli? Sweet, adorable, loving Eli? No way.
Lizzy, if you ever show up at Eschaton, you may have to take it in small doses. We’re a little, um, “shrill” over there.
And snarky.
Hey Eli & DWD. heh.
Eli,
I have been missing your sterling comments of late. Someone said you were here, thought I would say Hi.
Summer vacation is continuing apace and I am not writing. Just hanging about, and that is a good thing.
Never been here before, might lurk a while.
thanks for the video, JGrrl. for those of us who don’t own tvs, it’s nice to see the fun stuff via the blogs.
and firepups, be warned: eli is a menace, and must be stopped. spanking usually works.
just received this email from Ned’s campaign:
Hey, JFTB, got your email and am looking forward to seeing it. Sounds just splendid.
Lieberman campaign manager Sean Smith to CNN:
So he’ll try to get on the ballot as something like a third-party Democrat? (Or maybe just as a third “part” Democrat?)
Redshift, newtonusr — I suspect Bay is just trying to save neo-con policies from the Bush crash. Make it personal to him, not to their cause, so that if he goes down, they still claim their policies enjoy support. Occham’s razor.
Question: Anyone know if Addington – like Scalia, Thomas (maybe Roberts), Santorum and Brownback – is Opus Dei?
Eli,
I think, unlike moi, NTodd is having a little trouble repressing his jealousy about your getting to meet Jane in person.
Just a bunch of blogfascist starfuckers, we are…
Punaise @ 206:
Too much of a stretch waistband
;>)
There’s been an elephant in the room for quite some time now
heh heh
darkblack! you heeded my plea! and a great one it is…muchas gracias!
BobbyG @ 1:55 pm (#200) – If he’s running things then Cheney should have told the President to rewrite the EO so he could declassify things on a whim, which as it stands is something only the President can do.
[Note: While he can declassify on a whim, even the President is obligated to inform the document originator. That’s proper procedure, I can’t say if it’s illegal for the Prez to neglect doing this. In case anyone’s getting a deja vu feeling, we have had this discussion before at FDL.]
eli is a menace, and must be stopped. spanking usually works.
Chi-dy, don’t tease the poor boy.
Tease me, instead.
We’re a little, um, “shrill” over there.
Eschatonians shrill? No way. Blogfascists, maybe. (j/k)
darkblack 217 – “Joey pantload”
This is interesting. I see some of my favorite people posting here. That is nice.
Cujo -
“That’s proper procedure”
Bush would no doubt say “who cares what YOU think?”
Laws and procedures are for us Little People.
Redshift @ 207
When that particular ConservoMare suggests Bush isn’t trustworthy, it’s breaking down large. I should have gotten it verbatim – she just flat-out said he has lost trust in a way that suggested that trust was not his due.
Hey firepoodles —
I have created a blog at Senator Harry Reid’s “Give em Hell Harry site.” Please add your comments to my post in support of Connecticut Democrats. Join me in asking Harry Reid to pledge to support the nominee of the Democratic Primary in Connecticut HERE:
http://www.giveemhellharry.com…..anfran/Vjn
Moderator ….Since 116 can’t refresh ???????
Just me???
Dear XXXXX,
There’s been an elephant in the room for quite some time now, but today it’s official. In a move meant purely to preserve personal political power, Senator Lieberman announced he will pull petitions for an Independent U.S. Senate run this November. The senator wants to have it both ways, and there will still be a primary on August 8. But the only thing better than the people of Connecticut getting an opportunity to reject President Bush’s energy policy, Supreme Court nominees, and failed plan in Iraq, is an opportunity to reject it twice. Will we still win? The answer is an emphatic, “yes!” But it’s only possible with your continued, and re-doubled support.
https://secure.nedlamont.com/page/contribute
No matter how he tries to spin it, the party did not leave Senator Lieberman, it was he who left our shared principles of progress behind en route to becoming “George Bush’s favorite Democrat.” In fact, Senator Lieberman’s high-profile supporters couldn’t resist taking a shot at you on their way out the door. “I think to be terrorized through the summer by an extremely small group of the Democratic Party, much less the voting population, is total insanity,” former state Dem. Chair John Droney said in the Hartford Courant. This is the kind of demonizing of Democrats you can expect for the rest of the campaign … get used to it. We need your help now more than ever.
Our effort has always been a fight for the heart and soul of the Democratic Party, but Senator Lieberman upped the ante today. Campaigns across the country will take note — is Republican-lite the path towards reclaiming our country for average Americans, or is standing up for our core Democratic principles? We say it’s about vision of progress: a sane foreign policy, health care for all Americans, an increased minimum wage, protecting social security, clean government, and energy independence. The eyes of a nation are upon us now, and we’re all in. Are you?
Sincerely,
Tom Swan
Campaign Manager, Ned Lamont for U.S. Senate
ck at 1:56
Leslie in CA at 1:57
Thanks.
John Casper 208 — “Ned’s strongest issue, and the one Joe just handed him today, is that Joe just basically admitted he is not a Democrat.”
A-MAXIMUS-MEN! Not only is it NED’s strongest issue and message, it’s OURS — exactly what the voters of Connecticut AND the DC Dems most need to hear and take away from ‘06.
We won’t settle — or pay or vote — for DINOS, we want DEMS!
John Casper at 183, Why didn’t the spying catch Osama’s people?
Because it was never meant to. If we ever get the details on this, we will find out that W has been doing uber-Nixonian spying on “suspect” Americans and political foes, potential or otherwise, since day one.
Eli, if we ever meet in person we can have a cackle contest (a Cack-Off?).
I can’t remember for sure where I saw it, I think it was an NYT LTE, where someone pointed out that the *translation* resources available to the NSA were nowhere near adequate to the volume of calls being monitored. Since it is safe to say that Arab/Islamic terrorists would be communicating in English a whole lot, that kind of cast that question of “Who are they really spying on?” into sharp relief.
Also, when I’m in *really* good voice, I can actually transition right from the low demonic “Muahahahaha” to the witch-cackle on one breath. This is rare, however.
I think, unlike moi, NTodd is having a little trouble repressing his jealousy about your getting to meet Jane in person.
I guess I can’t really blame him for that. Frankly, he should be.
I called the DSCC and gave them an earful. I called Obama and left a message. I went to Harry Reid’s blog (see siun 1:26 p.m. above) and left a comment. Oh, and I sent Ned some money. Go Ned–overcome the Joenertia!
Lieberman campaign manager Sean Smith to CNN:
“He would be a ‘petitioning Democrat,’” said Smith. “He is not leaving the party and not running as an independent.”
So he’ll try to get on the ballot as something like a third-party Democrat? (Or maybe just as a third “part” Democrat?)
Maybe a petty, shunned Democrat.
I guess I can’t really blame him for that. Frankly, he should be.
Sure. Make it even *tougher* on the rest of us…
This is interesting. I see some of my favorite people posting here. That is nice.
It really is quite pleasant over here…
Ever helpful, JC Christian, Patriot has this suggestion for Joe:
How Joe can leverage his $359
all right, I’m sending Lieberman an invoice for the hours of productivity lost today because of his antics. in fact, I think I’ll make it retroactive over the past several months. Woo-hoo, I’m in the money now….
“I guess I can’t really blame him for that. Frankly, he should be.”
LMAO.
is that Cujo’s 4359?
I mean, $359
SPEW ALERT for the General link at 2:12.
Tweety on MSNBC is doing a special on veterans. Does anybody know if it was prerecorded? Wondering if he is going to cover the Joebortion
(I just made that up). How about CNN?
The whole EO on declassification stinks. I looked at it and cannot see anything in it that prevents the VP from declassifying something the Prez doesn’t want declassified. Of course, I’m not a lawyer…
neuro 245 — if you weren’t here about 30-40 minutes ago, scroll back up for news of how John King’s questions made a shambles of The CT Sham.
Sorry, John. I should have warned everyone. It is definitely spew-able!
Sorry, John. I should have warned everyone. It is definitely spew-able!
Feel the spewmentum.
Murray Waas has a new article up:
http://news.nationaljournal.co…..703nj1.htm
the General is major. there’s more than a colonel of truth in that….
“Tweety on MSNBC is doing a special on veterans. Does anybody know if it was prerecorded?”
It is.
RevDeb on CSpan 2, asking Mattzie about countering voter fraud… The world is a better place!
Feel the spewmentum.
heh heh
Richmond @ 217
Have you read the article in The New Yorker re Addington?
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/…..03fa_fact1
Not sure if he is Opus Dei, but still quite interesting.
Elsewhere in the news . . .
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0703.html
Hey everone, Atrios is having a Name Joe’s Party contest. What party should he put on the ballot for his “independent” run?
the General is major. there’s more than a colonel of truth in that….
Some things are best kept private. No need for lots of photos and their attendant captain contests. It just gets everyone all adjutanted.
(adjutantated?)
newtonusr,
have we met?
Joe just gave all the ammo needed to Lamont for the upcoming debate. It’s going to be fun to watch Ned ask Joe why, once again, he turns his back on the party that elected him to the Senate three times, why, once again, Joe is willing to split the Democratic party by announcing he’ll run as an “petitioning Democrat” if he doesn’t win the primary, why, once again, Joe is acting like a WATB. (OK, maybe Lamont won’t ask that 3rd question, but I bet that some viewers will be thinking along those lines).
darkblack 2:02
In-Depends-Dunce Day. That is too much! LOL
weeder @255 – Yes, the New Yorker piece got me thinking about “ultimate power” issues in other ways too.
WOW go the beach for a few hours and look what happens.
Hey Joe don’t let the door hit ya…
On second thought, let me slam it and give ya some Joementum out of the Senate, out of the party and out of relevance.
Happy Independence Day folks, we’re free of the turncoat.
A good post headline;
Joe Seeks Mulligan
Hey everone, Atrios is having a Name Joe’s Party contest. What party should he put on the ballot for his “independent” run?
I’m going with “The Pooper Party”.
Does the general do nautical? Will his submissive be involved? Maybe he’ll command’er to hang out his ensign, after he looks in the commode-ore not, like a good Loo-tenant…
lotus at 256, thanks for that update, and major kudos to Brad.
Ahh lawd . . . ramble over to NYT’s homepage for a quick look’n’laff. You’ll see what I mean.
I bet Joe – the neo-condemocrat – doesn’t even show up for the debate
ok, whoever is in contact with lamont has to point out that Joe is now desperate
as everyone knows, desperate men do desperate things.
lieverman is going to be in full attack mode and he’s gonna go for an all or nothing shot at the debate.
lamont has to be ready for a doozy cause joe is going to come up with one
Eli says:
July 3rd, 2006 at 2:22 pm
You didn’t say anything about corporal pun-ishment. (g)
Looks like Lieber-mortis is setting in. I always knew Joe was a stiff.
-GSD
You didn’t say anything about corporal pun-ishment. (g)
It rankles me that I missed that one.
lotus at 269, you talking about the Phallic Prayer photo?
“missy’s brother” at Eschaton wants you to vote in this poll. Click the Survey button under Lieberman’s head. I’m guessing you know who got my vote…
http://www.wfsb.com/news/index.html
al-Scooter – Surely Commander Kobe is at the helm.
RevDeb – sorry – I’m good w/faces. We met @ yKos – I fixed K’s Mac, found her purse.
lotus: O.M.G. :lol:
Oilfieldguy says: “Joe Seeks Mulligan”
July 3rd, 2006 at 2:25 pm
Will he be allowed to have a provisional ball?
the General is major. there’s more than a colonel of truth in that%u2026.
Some things are best kept private. No need for lots of photos and their attendant captain contests. It just gets everyone all adjutanted.
in the brig, a dear friend once told me….
in the loo, Tenant told W it was a slam dunk
Darkblack, it’s a keeper!
Tha’d be the one Leslie — those boys made off with Rush’s stash, looks lak.
ot but plaim stuff
VERY IMPORTANT
raw story has it
Bush told fritz that he instructed cheney to rat plaim
read it, I’m hoping to get Jane to do a piece on this
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0703.html
From C&L – Lieberman on CNN:
Worried not enough Democrats will vote.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..will-vote/
Can you say “Shmuck?”
The video starts with Kos…
but should credit The General:
http://patriotboy.blogspot.com…..chive.html
Eighty-eight percent!! WOOHOOO!!!!
in the brig, a dear friend once told me%u2026.
in the loo, Tenant told W it was a slam dunk
Tenet is an admiralable man.
I know I mentioned earlier how moved I was by the new Leonard Cohen documentary. And this song especially moved me to tears. Somehow it is the perfect protest anthem. Actually, it’s titled “Anthem”. I’m not one to post song lyrics, but I just wanted to share.
… while the killers in high places
say their prayers out loud
But they’ve summoned, they’ve summoned up
a thundercloud
and they’re gonna to hear from me.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That’s how the light gets in.
best part is, darkblack takes requests.
TeddySF
I left a comment on your Harry blog. I also started a blog over there. Look under Community Blogs. Comments are welcome.
newtonuser, 278
your initials KC?
KathMA is here with her fixed laptop. I TIVO’d the YKos thing and then accidentally deleted it!!!!!! DAMMMMMMNNNNNNN. Too much excitement, not enough concentration.
Wow — that’s WELL worth sharing, Jenny. Thank you.
the General runs a private, first class operation.
Someone above said to check out the NYTimes website photo up now. Do it, it’s a real lol – a huge dildo as symbol of state!
hehehe…….
Ned is up to 91% to 9% for Lieberman in the servey 460 people voting!
Jenny from the Blog:
Leonard Cohen documentary – Is that the one where he talks about being in the monastery? He was expecting a quiet, meditative retreat and instead had to deal with others 24/7. so zen.
This has been my motto for a long time. Love Anthem. Love Cohen.
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That’s how the light gets in.
“Lieber-Youth.”
That’s so fucked up, in so many ways. Oy.
Newtonusr – check out the blog of pictures ykosfdl – should i put up your username instead?
a twofer: let’s not get caught up in seaman tics.
RevDeb
KC, but with envy – no TIVO here, just streamed to HD. Hi KathMA!
CHS, 507 Nedmentum to 51 Joenertia, after my contribution.
the General runs a private, first class operation.
He does yeoman work, although sometimes I think he’s a little ensign in the… umm… membrign.
ensign in the membrign.
insane in the brayin’
Happy birthday, Leslie, great graphic ET, and welcome B23. Re: the Waas story, shorter Bush:
“Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?”
(Shorter Henry II after the murder in the Cathedral: “Hey, I didn’t mean kill him.”)
(pouts about everyone ignoring his Navy puns)
(pouts about everyone ignoring his Navy puns)
I thought that was just how you talk…
BarbaraB – LOL!
BobbyG @ 2:06 pm (#225) – Laws and procedures are for us Little People.
True. Nevertheless, Cheney isn’t allowed to declassify documents he did not classify in the first place, and Bush says that he didn’t declassify the NIE. That means that Cheney committed an illegal act. Take that for what little it’s worth in the current political environment.
The logical thing for Cheney to have done, given his assignment, was to have the NIE declassified. Unfortunately, the NIE only supports the Administration’s position if you read the principal findings (what most of us might call an abstract or executive summary). The actual evidence in the NIE doesn’t support those findings. In essence, it says that there was no evidence for WMDs in Iraq. Cheney would have had to call up George Tenet and say “I need you to declassify the NIE in such a way that the CIA will look culpable later on.” Hard to say how that conversation would have gone, so Cheney took the sure route and leaked it. At least, that’s a story that fits the facts as presented, and my understanding of the characters involved.
Of course, there are no doubt many other story possibilities contained in what we still don’t know about this case.
Don’t pout, Cap’n, somebody might mistake for Joe . . .
Rayne,
I have tried to email you twice
as “Rayne_Today” and “rayne today”
Both bounced back
mistake YOU for Joe
I thought that was just how you talk%u2026
:lol: :lol:
Damn you.
Your smiley codes have no power here, Goto.
Captain Goto – sorry for the in-sub ordination.
(sounds of sonar pings ensue)
[thanks lotus for (her?) concern?]
Leslie in CA @ 257 –
Joe Lieberman to John King: I want to give my fellow Democrats here in Connecticut the opportunity to affirm my service . . .
The Joe-ffirmation Party
Ned is at 92 percent in the Eyewitness News 3 poll (see Christy at 2:29 p.m.) Feel the Nedreniline!
–Your smiley codes have no power here, Goto.–
Yeah, I guessed that ninth-level space samurai stuff wasn’t gonna work, either…
eli- grab a bicycle and join the war profiteers ride thru pgh. that will tour our many war profiteer residents homes. tomorrow. bikepgh website.
punaise @ 2:13 pm (#240) – is that Cujo’s [$]359?
Sadly, no. I would have made better use of it.
Has this been posted yet? Poll on Eyewitness Channel Three….
http://www.wfsb.com/news/index.html
eli- grab a bicycle and join the war profiteers ride thru pgh. that will tour our many war profiteer residents homes. tomorrow. bikepgh website.
If I could ride a bike, maybe…
Libby was queasy about the “snap declassifications” but Addington assured him that Bush and Cheney had such broad executive authority legally …
spork. you too, you little hermaphrodite utensil.
The Soggy Diaper Party
Darkblack has logo
punaise has motto
Kathryn in MA
Name is cool. Love your set – Great pics!
Especially liked the last one:
The 14th in your set (Doggydog, actually dogeatdogi) is my sis. She tries to keep our relation quiet, though…
Cheers!
Teddy–oh, yes, Christy linked already.
Ned 664 – Joe 55
That’ll teach ‘im to do an online survey!
Thanks, guys! The film had everything, beauty, humor, gorgeous interpretations of Cohen’s songs by artists who truly left their egos at the door. I’ve seen it twice and it just opened here in L.A. on Thursday. heh.
Yup, footage of Leonard in the monestery. Just the whole thing was so moving and beautiful and uplifting. !!!
Sy Hersh on CNN
Dieboldt will count poll results on the other end.
squirrelhiller–I tried to *walk* up and down the big hill in my neighborhood this morning, and it nearly killed me.
I’ll ring my handle bar bell in your honor…
*ilson46201 @ 2:48 pm (#321) – So, once again we seem to be saying that the buck stops at Cheney’s office in more ways than one.
well, that didn’t turn out like I planned…
Captain Goto
(pouts about everyone ignoring his Navy puns)
Don’t be blue . . .
From Christy above: “missy’s brother” at Eschaton wants you to vote in this poll. Click the Survey button under Lieberman’s head. I’m guessing you know who got my vote”
Choice Votes Percentage of 699 Votes
Joe Lieberman 54 8%
Ned Lamont 645 92%
When Ned wins, and the general election starts, there should be a two person debate between Ned and the Republican candidate. Jumpin’ Joe should be excluded. It is, after all, a two person race. Joe didn’t want Nader or Nader’s running-mate included in the 2000 debates. Fair is fair.
well, that didn’t turn out like I planned…
The things you think are precious I just can’t understand…
The Soggy Diaper Party
Darkblack has logo
punaise has motto
OFG has the mojo
punaise 2:36 p.m.
A pun like that deserves corporal pun-ishment.
test
close italics in 334 . . .
Preview is your friend
Preview is your friend . . .
captain goto 332
i’m gonna do it but it won’t be pretty. these dudes with the exception of richard mellon scaife probably all live in sewickley or fox chapel. a real trek for this old plump squirrel. will report my findings.
The things you think are precious I just can’t understand
Of course, weekends at the college ain’t what they used to be, either…
Of course, weekends at the college ain’t what they used to be, either…
Really? They’ve stopped sucking?
Just saw the CNN Lieberloser interview on Crooks and Liars. Interesting background props – empty cup of Joe on a table over the right shoulder, empty super shiny grey chair over the right. Also, it looks like the bottom of his play dough like face flesh is melting. Not good for him!
Best Monday ever at the Lake!
Zen heart zen-nurse – sending a virtual glass of Gatorade -
Lovely lotus – can’t get enuff of your comments.
Leslie in CA – Happy Birthday kid!
Punaise – email me – afholliday AT sbcglobal DOT net -
Peterr -
Preview is your friend
Preview is your friend .
You keep saying that. To paraphrase our favorite Spaniard, I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Preview is your friend . . .
What–you got something agin’ short attention spans?
sq-hill’r–that’s what *I* was thinkin’…not an easy ride. Vaya con dios.
neurophius @ 2:53 pm (#338) – A pun like that deserves corporal pun-ishment.
Delivered in first class private accomodations.
Cujo 359 @333: So, once again we seem to be saying that the buck stops at Cheney’s office in more ways than one.
actually the bus stops at Cheney’s office; or rather, it finally comes to a rest about 150 ft. down the hall
ABC News: Sen. Joe Lieberman Says He May Run As Independent if He Loses Democratic Primary
Vaya con dos wheels.
One of the worst things for me about Lieberman is that, not only does he frequently not support the Democratic position, but he flaunts his lack of support on TV. Arrogant little p—-
Thanks guys for the heads up on the Waas article about Bush ordering his minions to go after Wilson. I wonder if that bit of info will show up on Cableland?
“Joe Lieberman to John King: I want to give my fellow Democrats here in Connecticut the opportunity to affirm my service . . .”
Someone should tell him that’s what the primary he is going to lose is for.
Anne Holliday 347 – you’ll have mail shortly
(whatever it was, I’m sorry!) . :~)
punaise @ 2:57 pm (#349) – actually the bus stops at Cheney’s office; or rather, it finally comes to a rest about 150 ft. down the hall
It looks like that’s the direction we’re headed. Talk about Joe-mentum.
Thank you for the link to the [click] SURVEY, Christy.
http://www.wfsb.com/news/index.html
And GREAT WORK everyone…where it counts!
http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/9354
Really? They’ve stopped sucking?
Well, they were OK until the jewish babe I used to visit, tried to go orthodox…no more Shygetz-es for her.
:-(
“Joe Lieberman to John King: I want to give my fellow Democrats here in Connecticut the opportunity to affirm my service . . .”
Someone should tell him that’s what the primary he is going to lose is for.
“Now, I know you all didn’t *really* mean to vote against me in the primary, so out of the goodness of my heart, I’m going to give you a second chance to realize your mistake…”
neuro and JWR — thanks for your messages to Leader Reid on my “Give em Hell Harry” blog!
Help me convince Harry Reid to support Connecticut Dems when they make their choice on 8/8:
http://www.giveemhellharry.com…..anfran/Vjn
… oh, is THIS what y’all call the blogwhoring????
Someone should tell him that’s what the primary he is going to lose is for.
No feces. Like I said…they really think this is *their* private party. We’re just there to make it look good, all legal-like.
“Joe Lieberman to John King: I want to give my fellow Democrats here in Connecticut the opportunity to affirm my service . . .”
OK, we hereby affirm that Joe has served as a pain in the ass of the Democratic Party for too long now.
Let’s move on. Will Senator Lamont please report for duty?
Evil Parallel Universe @ 2:59 pm (#353) – Apparently. Joe’s referring to the Democrats who aren’t registered as Democrats.
Wow, Acting Patriotic — lookit those numbers zoom — FDL is MAKING A STATEMENT.
New York Times: “Lieberman Says He Will Run on His Own if He Loses Primary”
Cujo 359, that was your slot at 3:01, between #358 and #360 – how did you miss it?
Eli, that arrogant lil %#^%$&* deserves a donkey whipping. All that money being Miss Spent on one shrub-lovin’ DINO, with so many other deserving candidates out there.
Bush: “If there was a leak in my administration, I’d like to know about it.”
Huh. Another day, another bald faced lie from the administration that sees 70% of the nation and the entire world as their enemies.
-GSD
It’s good that Jane is with Ned right now. Real money donated by real people represented by Jane Hamsher. Everyone is doing everyone proud. Note to Joe; Chow, baby.
Joe,
Don’t you get enough affirmation from The Great Decider as he strokes your bald spot while you go down on him.
-GSD
Eli, that arrogant lil %#^%$&* deserves a donkey whipping. All that money being Miss Spent on one shrub-lovin’ DINO, with so many other deserving candidates out there.
It’s a double waste of money: Not only would the DSCC be wasting money on a non-Democrat, but Democratic contributors now have to give Ned even more money to counter the spending of their own flippin’ party.
punaise @ 3:04 pm (#365) – I was busy trying to figure out who it was who wasn’t sucking any more.
Photos from the Lamont presser — video soon.
http://nedlamont.com/blog
Thom Hartman just did an AMAZING pice on the declaration of independance
Where Thomas Jefferson anotated the infractions king goerge leveled against the colonies, thom drew an uncanny parralel to what is going on today
please pay special attention to the portion I embolden and hold those infractions of king george in comparison to his contemporary;
The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen Colonies
Presented by the Indiana University School of Law—Bloomington
The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen Colonies
In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. –That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. —Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain [George III] is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us, in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by the Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
The signers of the Declaration represented the new states as follows:
New Hampshire
Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton
Massachusetts
John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry
Rhode Island
Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery
Connecticut
Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott
New York
William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris
New Jersey
Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark
Pennsylvania
Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross
Delaware
Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean
Maryland
Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton
Virginia
George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton
North Carolina
William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn
South Carolina
Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton
Georgia
Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton
From lisa, over at Eschaton: “How long until Joe accuses Lamont of saying or doing something ‘anti-Semitic’?”
No, it’ll be a McCain’s-black-baby-”whispering campaign”. Can someone who Lamont listens to give him a heads-up? You bet it’s coming…
TeddySanFran at 3:01 pm – It was my pleasure. Thanks for setting it up so quickly!
OfT: “Shreveport Paper Considers Dropping Coulter
Published: July 03, 2006 10:20 AM ET
“NEW YORK Craig Durrett, editorial page editor of the Shreveport (La.) Times, revealed in a column in his paper that he is considering dropping Ann Coulter as a columnist, and in fact, has “come close” before…..”
TeddySanFran 3:01 p.m.
Harry’s blog seems like a good way to get our voices heard. I’m sure some staff member is assigned to read the comments.
new thread —- more Joe-fun
Harry’s blog seems like a good way to get our voices heard. I’m sure some staff member is assigned to read the comments.
Is there a staff member assigned to listen to that staff member?
EPU –
as a mere mortal in this puny universe, I humbly beseech youse to use your omnipotent universal powers, to do something to restore the balance in the FDL universe. There has been an Atrios universe spillover of snark and pun and rapid rejoinder to FDL, and the delicate balance of serious commentary and FDL snark is out of kilter.
new thread – this is where I duck out.
There has been an Atrios universe spillover of snark and pun and rapid rejoinder to FDL, and the delicate balance of serious commentary and FDL snark is out of kilter.
Sorry, I’ll try to dial it back a little.
CNN just reported that the unemployment rate among veterans is three times the national average overall.
So much for “Be–All That You Can Be!”
Oh, and veterans are having trouble getting their promised college tuition payments made, and some are getting kicked out of school because they can’t pay up.
Way to “support the troops,” George and Rummy.
new thread –
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..n-tonight/
Hey Teddy, yes that is a blog whoring. And a fine job of it, good on ya’! (Course I better write down my password and user name somewhere, I’m not used to that system.)
It would be great if someone could dig up a comment from Lieberman in 2000 to the effect that Nader shouldn’t run because it would hurt the Democrats. I don’t know if such a quote exists, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it does.
Sing to the tune of “We’re off the see the Wizard”.
Hannity, Rush, and OReilly Oh MY!
Hannity, Rush, and OReilly Oh MY!
Joe is off to see the wizards, the venomous wizards of Faux,
The venomous, venomous, venomous, venomous,
venomous,
Wizards of Faux.
Theres venomous wizards at Faux for sure
FOR SURE FOR SURE FOR SURE FOR SURE
Perhaps OReilly can find a cure.
La ta ta ta ta ta ta taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!