Comments on: The Rocket’s Head Glare http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:26:45 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: MacMorn http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-175501 MacMorn Thu, 06 Jul 2006 15:25:28 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-175501 <p>I concur with Pete’s comment. While Klein certainly has a problem as a flawed reporter who spins things in <em>his own interest</em>,it is a mistake to categorize press leeches as himself in the unproductive light of a two way political framework. Is he a Democrat? Who cares - frankly his political leanings are not the issue - his reporting is. And like his glib silly commentary that often disregards facts - this blog piece shares Mr. Klein’s indulgences and flaws. In this past Sunday performance - Klein was fairly reasoned as he can be at times, to say otherwise is to create that ‘other’ Joe Klein. Creating ‘otherness’ satisfies the unfortunate impulse to maintain a combatitive attitude in support of secure idealogy - which we all know has a nasty way of overwhelming facts.</p> I concur with Pete’s comment. While Klein certainly has a problem as a flawed reporter who spins things in his own interest,it is a mistake to categorize press leeches as himself in the unproductive light of a two way political framework. Is he a Democrat? Who cares – frankly his political leanings are not the issue – his reporting is. And like his glib silly commentary that often disregards facts – this blog piece shares Mr. Klein’s indulgences and flaws. In this past Sunday performance – Klein was fairly reasoned as he can be at times, to say otherwise is to create that ‘other’ Joe Klein. Creating ‘otherness’ satisfies the unfortunate impulse to maintain a combatitive attitude in support of secure idealogy – which we all know has a nasty way of overwhelming facts.

]]> By: Lisa http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-175358 Lisa Thu, 06 Jul 2006 13:19:12 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-175358 <p>I agree with Pete. While Ms. Hamsher is correct in summarizing Klien as often being a lapdog for the GOP, it does anyone who did not watch This Week a disservice by failing to point out that Klien did indeed to a surprisingly good job of taking the administration to task for its Hitlerian intimidation campaign against the New York Times.</p> <p>The fact that Klien is usually a blathering ass is a different issue than whether some salient points were being made on Sunday.</p> I agree with Pete. While Ms. Hamsher is correct in summarizing Klien as often being a lapdog for the GOP, it does anyone who did not watch This Week a disservice by failing to point out that Klien did indeed to a surprisingly good job of taking the administration to task for its Hitlerian intimidation campaign against the New York Times.

The fact that Klien is usually a blathering ass is a different issue than whether some salient points were being made on Sunday.

]]> By: Pete http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-174707 Pete Thu, 06 Jul 2006 01:45:33 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-174707 <p>The Daily Howler<br /> <a href="http://dailyhowler.com/dh070506.shtml">http://dailyhowler.com/dh070506.shtml</a><br /> makes the same point as I made earlier here.</p> <p>That web site provides a link to the podcast, and also provides excerpts.</p> <p>The Daily Howler says: “The (firedoglake) summary completely misinformed liberal readers. Why do we want to do this to ourselves? How can this form of self-deception possibly serve our real interests</p> <p>Anyone care to respond?</p> The Daily Howler
http://dailyhowler.com/dh070506.shtml
makes the same point as I made earlier here.

That web site provides a link to the podcast, and also provides excerpts.

The Daily Howler says: “The (firedoglake) summary completely misinformed liberal readers. Why do we want to do this to ourselves? How can this form of self-deception possibly serve our real interests

Anyone care to respond?

]]> By: thebewilderness http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-171613 thebewilderness Mon, 03 Jul 2006 23:45:33 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-171613 <p>Maybe I’m being an alarmist about this, but what I’m hearing about the Hamdan decision is that in response to it this administration is going to continue as a signatory to the Geneva Conventios. At the same time the administration claims it has the right to demand that our friends and family in the military behave like terrorists and commit war crimes.</p> Maybe I’m being an alarmist about this, but what I’m hearing about the Hamdan decision is that in response to it this administration is going to continue as a signatory to the Geneva Conventios. At the same time the administration claims it has the right to demand that our friends and family in the military behave like terrorists and commit war crimes.

]]> By: Ceee http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-170404 Ceee Mon, 03 Jul 2006 14:14:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-170404 <p>Classy graphic! Reminds me of the timeless images you used to feature exclusively.</p> Classy graphic! Reminds me of the timeless images you used to feature exclusively.

]]> By: pgl http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-170375 pgl Mon, 03 Jul 2006 13:46:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-170375 <p>Actually, we took a vacation from Russert. Ms. Mitchell ended the show with an old MTP on the Pentagon Papers - which reminded me that MTP was a great show before Russert took over. It was a great show yesterday. Hmmm. Fire Russert and hire Ms. Mitchell as the host. </p> <p>Also - a little self-promotion. In my post on the Safire-Harwood-Priest bashing of Billie Boy Bennett, it seems I’ve gotten engaged in a battle of wits with Jonah Goldberg. OK, it’s like fighting a small child with both of his arms tied back his back, but enjoy.</p> Actually, we took a vacation from Russert. Ms. Mitchell ended the show with an old MTP on the Pentagon Papers – which reminded me that MTP was a great show before Russert took over. It was a great show yesterday. Hmmm. Fire Russert and hire Ms. Mitchell as the host.

Also – a little self-promotion. In my post on the Safire-Harwood-Priest bashing of Billie Boy Bennett, it seems I’ve gotten engaged in a battle of wits with Jonah Goldberg. OK, it’s like fighting a small child with both of his arms tied back his back, but enjoy.

]]> By: Daryl http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-170314 Daryl Mon, 03 Jul 2006 12:53:01 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-170314 <p>Jane I got to go along with Pete 30. </p> <p>We all know Klein’s history and I’m not making excuses for that but on yesterday’s show which is what your round up was dealing with Joe Klein did a great job battling Kookie, B movie actor/Senator Thompson (what was Tennessee thinking?) and the squirt. </p> <p>For a day he gets credit.</p> Jane I got to go along with Pete 30.

We all know Klein’s history and I’m not making excuses for that but on yesterday’s show which is what your round up was dealing with Joe Klein did a great job battling Kookie, B movie actor/Senator Thompson (what was Tennessee thinking?) and the squirt.

For a day he gets credit.

]]> By: JayinVT http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-170298 JayinVT Mon, 03 Jul 2006 12:31:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-170298 <p><b>Reed also suggested the holding in Hamdan would apply to all of Bush’s extralegal activities, including illegal phone taps and secret prisons.</b> </p> <p>What does “holding” mean? Thanks.</p> Reed also suggested the holding in Hamdan would apply to all of Bush’s extralegal activities, including illegal phone taps and secret prisons.

What does “holding” mean? Thanks.

]]> By: jerry http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-170293 jerry Mon, 03 Jul 2006 12:12:09 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-170293 <p>I thought Andrea Mitchell did a great job, that was the most interesting MTP in quite some time. </p> <p>Not only did she challenge misleading statements very agressively (not just Bennet but all the guests) but the guests were more aggressive as well.</p> <p>Well done Andrea!</p> I thought Andrea Mitchell did a great job, that was the most interesting MTP in quite some time.

Not only did she challenge misleading statements very agressively (not just Bennet but all the guests) but the guests were more aggressive as well.

Well done Andrea!

]]> By: newtonusr http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-170221 newtonusr Mon, 03 Jul 2006 06:27:35 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/02/the-rockets-head-glare/#comment-170221 <p>Mary @ 88 - Thanks!</p> Mary @ 88 – Thanks!

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