
("The female of the species is deadlier than the male…")
It has certainly been an interesting season for the female Republican pundits of America. Harpy Queen Ann Coulter set the bar pretty low in early June when she came out shooting at the 9/11 widows, making her now infamous appearance on the Today Show to celebrate the release of blah de blah…
Not to be outdone, Michelle Malkin, who is, after all, Ann Coulter in cheaper shoes and Old Navy twin sets, responded to the suicides of three of the Guantanamo detainees with this charming statement:
MALKIN: And really, the reaction to the suicides should be, “Boo-freakin-hoo.”
And now we have a new aspirant the Sisterhood of the Bloodthirsty Shrew, Melanie Morgan, who called for the execution of New York Times editor Bill Keller on Hardball.
If he were to be tried and convicted of treason, yes, I would have no problem with him being sent to the gas chamber.
So, what gives? Why the sudden uptick in murderous rhetoric from the distaff wing of the punditocracy?
I am reminded of the character Mary Anne Bell from the short story, "The Sweetheart of Song Tra Bong" from Tim O’Brien’s book of Vietnam stories, The Things They Carried. Mary Anne was a sweet midwestern girl who was a soldier’s girlfriend. He was able to have her sent to stay with him in Vietnam. She came there and left him within a matter of weeks to fight with a band of Green Berets.
Rat continues: Mark waits outside the Green Beret’s camp. Rat cautions him against bothering the Green Berets. Then they hear Mary Anne singing in what sounds like a foreign language. Mark can’t wait anymore. He runs into the tent, and then everything is silent. Rat and another soldier follow him in. The tent is full of candles and has a strange tribal quality. But the most powerful thing is the smell: a mixture of incense and death. The head of a leopard sits on a post in the corner. There are bones everywhere. Mary Anne appears. Her eyes are dull, and though she wears the shorts and sweater she arrived from America in, she also wears a necklace of human tongues. She tells Mark that he doesn’t understand what Vietnam really is. She says, "When I’m out there at night, I feel close to my own body, I can feel my blood moving, my skin and my fingernails, everything, it’s like I’m full of electricity and I’m glowing in the dark–I’m on fire almost–I’m burning away to nothing–but it doesn’t matter because I know exactly where I am." Chapter 9, pg. 111 She does not even seem to be talking to him. Mark wants to help her, but Rat understands that she is beyond help.
Now Mary Anne is back in America and has changed her name to Barbara Comstock.
So, my question is this. Are these women being put out there as human shields to parrot talking points that men have given them? Or are they so genuinely filled with murderous hate that they honestly believe that declaring fatwahs on American citizens is appropriate and acceptable? Which is it? Are there men backstage pulling their make-me-talk strings because they know Matthews, Lauer, and the rest of broadcasting’s frat brothers won’t call them out because they’re women? Or are they really that sick that they wake up in the morning thinking about who needs to die in America?
There is, of course, a third possibility. And this is a phenomenon I have noticed among the women who consider themselves to be "Man’s Women". They like guns and sports and liquor and poker. They hate other women and always talk about how they’ve never gotten along with other women because they’re all so catty and they’d much rather hang out with men. And then they turn around and do these wildly hateful and underhanded things to any women who come around.
Lades, you know this girl. She’s always hanging out with your boyfriend’s friends. She likes whatever it is that they like. She can recite baseball statistics and parrot their opinions on all their favorite subjects. And you can NOT trust her. Every time you think you’ve gotten comfortable around her, she turns around and does something really cold. You can’t believe it!
But you see, for her, everything is about staying in good with the boys. And she will say and do anything to do that. She will happily step right on your neck, twist herself into all kinds of absurd logical knots, and is virtually guaranteed to plant a knife in your back when you least expect it. And that’s what I think is up with Mallkin, Coulter and the rest of these baby Defarges. They think it makes the boys love them more when they say outrageous, hateful things.
Unfortunately, it also seems to make them a great deal of money, which means they probably won’t stop any time soon.



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Mary Anne => Comstock LOL!
Valley Girl! Christy, Jane, Pach, Trex, et alia!!
I love Tim O’Brien–did a long interview with him when I was in grad school. But to your point, what I find uglier than the women you cite is that they have a willing audience. People choose to listen to them and read what they say. Have they ever been publically ridiculed, Live, on t.v.?
There is something wrong with these women, that they can so casually talk about murder.
Party of Life, but only for themselves. They think they are above everyone else, why is this necessary?
I’m gonna go for warped childhood plus your man’s woman theory. Then they are reinforced by the right wing media “Look, it’s a dog standing on its hind legs!” and off they go.
Honestly, I’m having a hard time getting worked up about these women. Is “pathetic” the word I’m looking for? Yes, I think that’s it.
Just pulled this off Red State:
“I’m not Ann Coulter’s biggest fan, but the NY Post piece referenced below goes a bit too far. It accuses the right-wing firebrand of plagiarism for allegedly purloining quotes from the Planned Parenthood website, the Heritage Foundation and the SF Chronicle. The accuser is a Berkeley PhD who accuses Coulter of not abiding by the standards of academic integrity. Again, I am as strident as any in my criticism of Coulter but this seems to be more smoke than fire.”
“baby Defarges” — one for the record books, fer sure.
Yeah, I know that girl. I also found out she crumpled pretty easily from one little ole bitch slap, like most bullies do. They dish it out but can’t take it.
Another most excellent post, TRex. Worth waiting for.
I gotta go with B. They’re simply batshit insane. You could argue that Jesse’s pulling Malkin’s strings, but who would be pulling Coulter’s? And I really don’t see Malkin as a big sports fan. Coulter, maybe…
hmmm . . . a woman friend who was VP for Human Resources at a major bank told me that women in her position had to work twice as hard as men, just to have a seat at the table.
Female executives in general become tougher than their male counterparts. But when the distaff execs reach a majority, they revert to a less macho and more nurturing approach.
One shudders to think what kind of vile things this group would choose to nurture . . .
TRex administers a world of hurt.
among the definitions for “distaff”:
let’s give it a whirl in this thread.
One shudders to think what kind of vile things this group would choose to nurture . . .
We’re soaking in it.
It’s one thing for them to say something hateful in the privacy of their caves, but appalling that they do so in public as if such hatefulness is even interesting, much less entertaining. They have nothing else going for them to attract attention. It’s just outrageousness for it’s own sake. How embarrassing to make money this way–how pitiful. And those who invite them–even worse.
Madge!
let’s give it a whirl in this thread.
That is sew not happening.
Or were you trying to say that Coulter is as crazy as a loom?
spindle whorls!!!
Ok, now what do we do…. is there something we can cook up thatq will have an effect?
AirportCat, IMHO, they do a lot of damage. First they “suck valuable oxygen” out of a news cycle that is already ignoring an avalance of stories that need to get told.
Second, the traditional media uses them, like they used Drudge wrt Monica. Once they make these sub human comments, it “sets the margin” on the political right. Their comments allow all the other neocons to set up about an inch to the left and then appear “reasonable.” Nixon used Spiro Agnew in this way.
IMHO, as long as the traditional media are willing to print their delusions, we have to respond. We cannot “leave them in possession of the field,” unchallenged, because they destroy the possibility of civil discourse.
Yeah, but according to Ben Stein, Republicans don’t have any hate in them, they love all Americans who are inside the law.
Harpies like Coulter and Malkin are to punditry what Marilyn Manson is to music, freak shows for shock value — “Look at me, or I’ll die”. The best thing we can do is ignore them.
They surely feel they are being clever, and like to hear their words magnified and repeated like a little kid with a microphone.
I imagine if you asked them point blank why they support murder, they would deny advocating it. They just refer to it or say someone else might kill this person. Then they smile and hope someone applauds their heinous spew.
Well that should put me in a good mood for sleep, so long and thanks for the zero comment once again. Seeya in the a.m. Wait…it is a.m. here.
Harpies like Coulter and Malkin are to punditry what Marilyn Manson is to music, freak shows for shock value – “Look at me, or I’ll die”. The best thing we can do is ignore them.
No, the best thing the *media* can do is ignore them. But they never will.
Then they smile and hope someone applauds their heinous spew.
Every time Ann Coulter smiles a puppy dies.
Every time Ann Coulter smiles a puppy dies.
She doesn’t *always* smile before she eats them.
Maybe we could needle them relentlessly at their looms.
And to respond to your question, TRex, I *do* know “that girl.” And I learned early on never to trust women who don’t like other women. Or anybody who gets off on bashing their own kind. I’m not sure exactly what kind of soul-sickness motivates that — it’s twisted in so many ways — but I know to stay the hell away from it.
You’re getting into some very deep psychological issues with these right wing female pundits. The same goes for right wing male pundits. I think it would be interesting to see the Jungians hold a major conference on the subject, exploring the anima/animus conflicts in these deeply disturbed people. Coulter, Malkin, and Morgan are just calling on their inner John Waynes.
Nothing that a few decades of therapy couldn’t help. Maybe.
Maybe we could needle them relentlessly at their looms.
We can try, but I’m afraid they’ll never weave.
Sorry, that should be “a-frayed”…
My brother was married to one of Those Girls. Ye gods.
She learned not to tread on the bond between twins, though. As you may gather, she’s not around anymore.
Or anybody who gets off on bashing their own kind. I’m not sure exactly what kind of soul-sickness motivates that %u2014 it’s twisted in so many ways %u2014 but I know to stay the hell away from it.
The closet cases really are going to kill us all.
My brother was married to one of Those Girls. Ye gods.
The Liking Sports part sounds good…
No therapy helps narcissists much, if at all. I’ve known enough of them, and I stay the hell away from anyone who seems to show the telltale signs of the disorder–just as I stay clear of the women who don’t like women. Destructive people.
No therapy helps narcissists much, if at all.
Wouldn’t it require them to admit they were imperfect first?
What do you call a boatload of right wing pundits at the bottom of the ocean?
A breath of fresh air . . .
not so OT: hey folks, don’t forget the Malkin rap-a-thon contest from a couple Late Nites ago. Still open for entries, I believe.
In the last thread I did not understand why Joe Klein’s status as a Democratic concern troll and goof was being questioned by anyone. Here are a few Kleinisms:
“What can the Democrats do? They can play politics or be responsible. The political option is to embrace “cut and run”; call for an immediate withdrawal, as Kerry did; and hope the public is so sick of Bush and sick of the war that it will punish the G.O.P. in the fall.
But embracing defeat is a risky political strategy, especially for a party not known for its warrior ethic. In fact, the responsible path is the Democrats’ only politically plausible choice: they will have to give yet another new Iraqi government one last shot to succeed.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerrepo…../7726.html
Frothy on Bush
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com…..9383035704
Klein on Iran from This Week ~4/17/06:
Klein: And so, yeah, by all means, we should talk to them, but, on the other hand, we should not take any option, including the use of nuclear….tactical nuclear weapons off the table.
Stephanopoulos: Keep that on the table?
Klein: It’s absolutely stupid not to.
Stephanopoulos: That’s insane.
In a May 2 washingtonpost.com chat, Time magazine senior writer and columnist Joe Klein denied he had ever said that “the left hates America.” But in an April 14 entry on the Huffington Post weblog, Klein stated that the “left wing” of the Democratic Party has a “hate America tendency
http://mediamatters.org/items/200605040006
I did not enable this link in order to avoid (hopefully) moderation.
John Casper @21, I was reacting more on a personal level, and partly still bummed out that VG is gone. I agree, it is necessary to say (about Malkin, Coulter, and the rest of that ilk) “this is unacceptable behavior, why do we tolerate this in our public discourse?”
I would also like to point out, that this beyond-the-pale hatefulness is by no means limited to these women. I try never to listen to Limbaugh, Hannity, and that bunch, but are they not just as hateful? Is it somehow more grating or shocking that we hear such foulness coming from women, that we expect it from the right-wing nutcase men and so are not as shocked and appalled?
I try never to listen to Limbaugh, Hannity, and that bunch, but are they not just as hateful? Is it somehow more grating or shocking that we hear such foulness coming from women, that we expect it from the right-wing nutcase men and so are not as shocked and appalled?
They’re pretty horrible, but I don’t think they go as far as advocating harrassment, much less murder/assassination.
Not that they’d ever actually, y’know, like, denounce it or anything…
Yeah, Eli, they may never weave, and that’s what’s scawy. I keep thinking of Rumplestiltskin, reading this thread. Maybe it’s more “rumpledforeskin”–
John Casper 10:06 p.m.
Redstate: “Again, I am as strident as any in my criticism of Coulter”
Huh? Is that true? WTF?
What amazes me is that they are completely blind to the irony of their own behavior. They’re turning Bill Keller into Salman Rushdie because Malkin and the PowerTools declared a fathwah on the Times.
How can they not see the inherent hypocrisy?
AirportCat at 10:30 pm
All of the right wing pundits are vile, but Coulter and Malkin seem totally unrestrained when it comes to eliminationist rhetoric.
Jonah’s fat wad
Yeah, Eli, they may never weave, and that’s what’s scawy. I keep thinking of Rumplestiltskin, reading this thread. Maybe it’s more “rumpledforeskin”%u2013
Well, darn. I hate to be a crochety knitpicker, but I was hoping we could make Coulter and her purls of wisdom into some kind of thimble of all the right-wing hate that’s out there.
They’re knitwits, Eli.
neurophius,
I was just quoting what I pulled off of Red State.
I didn’t write it.
They’re a spool or two shy of a sewing basket.
They’re knitwits, Eli.
You’re being too kind to those stitches.
These women are on the winning side(for now). How many corpses would they want from a losing position? No more Tweety TV for this pup. Inviting that sort of evil back only days later with no apologies.
Now back to making TRex a chandelier from rose colored champaign glasses.
OK, I defer to the superior wisdom of ck and Eli on the relative viciousness of the right-wing punditry — y’all must have really strong stomachs — so my next question is: how is it that these people get so much airtime? Is it simply a “ratings” game, the political equivalent of Jerry Springer and Geraldo?
They’re a spool or two shy of a sewing basket.
That’s why they’re such lousy spinners.
Jane at 10:17 p.m.
“I learned early on never to trust women who don’t like other women. Or anybody who gets off on bashing their own kind.“
About 23 years ago I attended a continuing legal education seminar on employment discrimination law. It was kind of a high-powered seminar, and one of the speakers was the Chairman of the US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (”EEOC”). He made a shockingly hateful speech that was basically an attack on the civil rights movement and efforts of blacks to seek legal redress for racial discrimination. He was an African-American man. His name was Clarence Thomas.
Is it simply a “ratings” game, the political equivalent of Jerry Springer and Geraldo?
I’m convinced that that’s bullshit, an excuse, a smokescreen. If it were just about ratings, Jeff Gannon would have been huge news. The Watergate hookers would have been huge news. Jack Burkman would have been huge news.
Oh, and let’s not forget all the molesters at DHS…
Is it simply a “ratings” game, the political equivalent of Jerry Springer and Geraldo?
DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING!!!
You are correct.
Liberals need to learn to be good TV. Exciting, pulse-quickening TV. Right now, most liberal pundits come across like bowls of day old oatmeal on camera. It’s pathetic.
Ohhhh, just let me in. The punditocracy would never be the same.
John Casper 10:39 p.m.
I know you didn’t write it. Sorry if I implied that. I was just expressing my dismay that RedState would say such a thing. Are they really Coulter-critics?
The moral rot of the Republicans extends beyond “mere” money and power, and I’d love to see the Dems actually point that the *Republicans* are the party of moral degenerates.
Liberals need to learn to be good TV. Exciting, pulse-quickening TV. Right now, most liberal pundits come across like bowls of day old oatmeal on camera. It’s pathetic.
It’s not because liberal pundits are lame. It’s because any liberal pundit who could make their point articulately and charismatically would never be allowed anywhere near a mic or a camera.
I think I read earlier today that Malkin’s blog gets more traffic than the PowerTools. Is that true? I have visited both (out of morbid curiousity, I suppose) and must say that (short impression only) I thought Malkin was really vapid, I just couldn’t see why she would draw much traffic. The Tools at least make some effort to be clever or thoughtful, but Malkin’s blog put me in mind of that head-spinning “you mother sucks cocks in hell” scene from the exorcist.
If it’s a ratings game, those ratings have been falling lately from what I’ve read. In some ways, these spinfraus are less dangerous than the more reasonable-sounding, right-wing punditry who leave out crucial facts or misrepresent the facts. They’re not as transparent. Different threads but from the same loom.
If you’re GE, which would you rather have: a perpetual corporate-friendly Republican government, or slightly higher ratings on MSNBC?
AirportCat at 40:
Is it somehow more grating or shocking that we hear such foulness coming from women, that we expect it from the right-wing nutcase men and so are not as shocked and appalled?
Methinks its akin to softcore porn for the male red-meat red-staters.
Kinda fits with TRex’s 3rd choice too!
Hearing it from women is titillating and ego-stroking for that good ol’ manly-man.
You know, those pudgy ol’ white boys with their dreams of Rambo-in’ all the
females within eyesighthot babes.TRex, the political version of the chainsaw-wielding Weird Al Yankovic singing “Like a Surgeon”?
TRex, the political version of the chainsaw-wielding Weird Al Yankovic singing “Like a Surgeon”?
My hair is much nicer than his.
Jeff Gannon I have heard of, but I had to Google to get much of the story. The Watergate hookers I read about on FDL. I’ve never heard of Jack Burkman (must google, back soon).
Okay, kids, I’m stepping away for a bit to get something to eat. I’ll check back in before bed.
TRex, don’t forget olives–the big fat ones.
It’s typical primate behavior.
A lot of the things that get people really bent out of shape are perfectly ordinary mammal behavior—like when men hit their girlfriends or kill their babies.
I’m not condoning such behaviors, but I’m just saying there’s nothing to be surprised at. It takes a lot of hard work to be civilized, and not much work to undue that civility, as Man Coulter amply demonstrates.
neurophius,
thanks.
BTW, I appreciated your Keith Moon story, prior thread, thanks.
When I commented the Red State quote, I was just trying to give the thread a feel for how the right was reacting. I didn’t realize it would turn out to be as relevant to some of the issues raised here. IMO, fighting the neocon spin machine is like peeling back layers of an onion. The first layer is probably Coulter and Malkin types. The next layer, for example, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush, than say what that Red Stater said, “I think Ann goes too far, but ….” And then the second layer lines up about an inch to the “left” and say basically the same things, but it “sounds” more reasonable, because they distanced themselves from the absolutely subhuman.
I’m currious to know what these people are like ‘off-camera’ — is Coulter’s on-air personna merely that, an on-air personna, or is it just an intensification of an already rather rotten one or, heaven forbid, is she like that all the time? If there was a candidate for option two, I’d say she’s it.
As for the others, I really haven’t had the pleasure of seeing them in action. Malkin’s shillery, from what little I’ve gleened, could simply be an “it’s a living” deal — sort of what someone who couldn’t make it as a model or an actress could fall into, because really, the skill set required isn’t all that different.
If someone could capture one of them in a more unguarded moments, I think that would go alot farther to answering the basic premise of your question ,which is what motivates someone to say such awful things without compunction?
In the same way that Republicans get off on hearing Clarence Thomas bash the civil rights movement, the red-staters wank off to Michelle talking trash about anchor babies. Also, they’re waiting for the ping-pong balls.
(”The female of the species is deadlier than the male…”)
TRex, dabbling in Kipling, schticks it to ‘em in their rude yard
I never go to Red State, so I’m not really that familiar with their dogma. I just assumed they would support Coulter regardless of the facts. I guess they are doing that in a backhanded sort of way, trying to appear to be “reasonable” conservatives, thus hoping to lend a bit of that aura of respectibility to Coulter at the same time they are saying “I’m not Ann Coulter’s biggest fan.”
I wonder how the real batshit crazies (Malkin?) are going to respond? By claiming that a rabid Markos ordered Coulter’s publisher to insert plagiarized passages into her work without her knowledge in order to destroy her credibility? Or are they going to go after that liberal Berkeley professor?
I think it is a strange thing, these venomous women. Especially when placed in a juxtaposition with the “ideal women” in the right wing, Christian-Republican frame.
Coulter is the one they love the most, but who is also the furthest from that ideal. Single, childless, a lawyer, smoker, allegedly libidinous.
Not a real family values type of gal whatsoever.
But, I stopped trying to apply any real logic to contemporary right wing rhetoric. It boils down to mostly “I’m right-ism” and the belief that there is a small chosen elite that is the vangaurd of the “I’m rightists”.
Or as Bob Deniro would say: “Fuck me? Fuck you!”
-GSD
neuro
My bet is they will go after that liberal Berkeley professor. He is just asking for it, him being a liberal Berkeley professor and all. (sarcasm off)
Trex:
I think you are extrapolating wildly from your brother’s experience.
Some of us strong women are feminists. I was born a doormat and told repeatedly that I wasn’t good enough because I was female. I was denied jobs, loans, promotions. I was sexually harassed and sexually attacked. My kidsister was murdered by a MDSO. I learned to survive, and that has left some rough edges on this sweet Victorian lady.
Some of us naturally like rock-climbing, model-building, animating, and other “male” activities. Some of us have a brain (my LSAT score was a hundred points higher than my ex-husband’s). I carry steel crochet hooks as well as a computer case. Perfection matters.
I’m not maternal and flee from a roomful of women talking about baby formulas, but rescue wounded animals and have compassion for the underdog. I have friendships with both men and women going back to the sixties. Good friends, with people who are intelligent, creative, gifted, unusual. Gender isn’t as important as the quality of mind.
Some of us strong women are complex.
If you bitch-slap me, I’ll cold-cock you or find some other way to take you down. No man hurts me and gets away with it.
If you call me “girl” or call other women “girls”, I won’t trust you or like you. If you are female and call other women “girls”, I’ll regard you as part of the problem… especially if you are in a position where your voice matters.
Women wouldn’t have to fight so hard for a shred of respect and equality if other women didn’t discriminate in their choice of words. Words matter.
“I just assumed they would support Coulter regardless of the facts.”
I did too.
I was actually googling on “Coulter,” hoping the WaPo or New York Times had picked up the story. Google listed the Red State diary and there isn’t much else out there about it.
OK, Jack Burkman is lower than slime mold.
Bobdog @73, I suspect that it really is NOT an “act” with Coulter and Malkin, that they are probably every bit as horrible in their non-public selves as they are in public. But I’m not willing to make the effort to find out for myself.
My guess is that Rove has opened a lot of media doors for both Coulter and Malkin and I bet his decision had a lot to do with their gender.
can you say lyndie england? does her behavior sound familiar in action, what coulter, malkin, et al. do with words.
TeddySanFran @74, ping-pong balls? Are you talking about what I think you’re talking about (something you might see in Tijuana)? Oh, my. (sound of brain cells frying)
Well, I’m off to dream about something other than raving right-wing lunatic harpies. Anything but that.
AirportCat, I think it is a ratings game.
Who can say the most ugly, vile thing? Tune in! And profess to be a nice Christian Republican girl at the same time. Ah, let the money flow in.
Actually it sort of reminds me of someone who runs a sex call-in business, where you talk dirty to someone for money. Except I see the sex phone women as having more of a moral sense.
neuro, think of the beautiful birds that grace the top of the Sunday Talking Heads threads … peaceful dreams to you …
trex – great and insightful post.
Margot, when I was in college, a young woman wrote a full-page article in the yearbook about her experiences as a “phone sex worker” (or whatever you call it). It was, as you may imagine, quite controversial, but I thought it was a very insightful and interesting piece. The young woman was working a job — and it really came across that it was just that, a job — to put herself through school. Like picking up the garbage, perhaps, a necessary function in our society? I don’t know, but I would definitely say she was morally far, far superior to the likes of Coulter and Malkin.
Could just be the money.
‘Ann don’t surf’
;>)
Welcome to the jungle
Re-reading, I have to go with TRex’s 3rd choice. I think if that’s not it, it’s at least awfully close.
Ah, darkblack, it was the mention of Vietnam, wasn’t it? “This is the end … “
“The horror! The Horror!”
OT
Roger Ebert is very ill following surgery…sending prayers his way.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200…..ebert_dc_1
nicely done Trex … as always!
the appeal does have a pornagraphic tinge … sorta pundit bimbo mudwrestling
and imagine the ratings when you can be guranteed that Coulter will say something outrageous that everyone will talk about
so the ambitious ladies like Melanie figure out it’s an easy way to land a frequent spot if she can out coulter coulter which does take some doing
and you are also right that we have all known them … I think they first hit their stride in junior high and never quite evolve
Can’t quite get into more Coulter and can’t get inspired to come up with something for the Malkin slam. I’ve been reading a heap of poemas de Pablo Neruda, trying to find the three best for some songs. He reaches such heights! Almost impossible to come down from the Andes into the sewers of the Bronx to even contemplate where people like Coulter, Malkin, O’Reilly, Savage sludge along. Harder yet to contemplate what has happened to our media which gives these sluts and their pimps front page coverage and prime time interviews.
On the one hand, to object, like late night fdl folks helped me do a week or so ago, to Coulter’s enabling by the media, we continue to keep her name visible. On the other hand, like Jane said here this morning – “ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK…….ATTACK!!!
I saw “Deadlier than the Male” at a movie house in Norfolk, VA in late 1966 with my best friend. He was a musician in the Navy and I as training to be an aircraft electrician in the Army. 19yo horny me couldn’t get Elke Sommer out of my mind……..
“Israel is now openly engaged in infrastructure warfare, the wanton destruction of the basic platforms of human survival. The bombing of the electric power plant has thrust the world’s most densely populated area into darkness; cutting off the vital flow of energy to hospitals, assistance centers, and the pumping stations which provide the city’s water. At the same time, Israel has bombed large sections of the main roads, government buildings, water lines and bridges. The Associated Press said, “Israeli tanks and bulldozers crossed the Gaza Strip and began razing farmland east of Khan Younis”.
“Razing farmland” is critical in understanding the real motive behind the current aggression. The attack is directed against Palestinian civilians, not terrorists and not Hamas. Israel is purposely destroying the means for continued human survival in Gaza.
We can now see that the practical application of the Israeli axiom, “to destroy the terrorist infrastructure” actually means the gratuitous decimation of civilian life-support systems.
Officials from the World Food Program, which feeds 600,000 people in the West Bank and Gaza, have warned of an impending humanitarian crisis saying that Palestinians are already living on one meal a day and that there has been a steady increase in malnutrition, anemia and kidney problems from poor nutrition.
At a special meeting of the UN Security Council on Friday, Dr. Riyadh Mansour, the Permanent Observer of Palestine, said that the Israeli invasion “was clearly premeditated and planned” weeks if not months before the capture of the Israeli soldier. Mansour added that the bombardment and military assault were clearly designed to “punish and terrorize the civilian population.”
Members of the Security Council quickly moved to pass a resolution condemning the Israeli invasion but were blocked by the United States. As long as the US occupies a place on the council, Israel’s attacks on Palestinian civilians will go unpunished.”
http://www.informationclearing…..e13817.htm
Well…
My lovely fiancee can spout baseball stats much better than me, and I played the damn sport and love it. She will not, however, stoop to the level of parroting my opinions on much of anything. It would sort of freak me out if she did.
But that’s obviously beside the point. The point is that I haven’t read “Things They Carried” in so long that I’d forgotten about that particular bit of imagery. Jaheezus.
In other news …
according to Al Jazeera, the power plant in Gaza which the Israelis blew up – dooming Palestinian children to dysentary and likely outbreaks of cholera – was apparently insured by a US company via a US govt. program and now we will get to reimburse the US insurer to the tune of $48 million.
Israeli tanks have entered northern Gaza and Israel is planning to put the 1/3 of the Palestinian cabinet who they have kidnapped on trial. Meanwhile Gush Shalom is calling for talk not guns.
Gush Shalom, the Israeli peace group, is holding almost continuous demonstrations:
http://gush-shalom.org/pics/kirya-28-6-06/
Re Melanie Morgan of the “Sisterhood of the Bloodthirsty Shrew,” who called for Bill Keller’s execution in a gas chamber…
Wow with such a ferocious solution, has she fine-tuned the most sadistic details of her violent fantasy, even down to the type of gas — Zyclon B? [A good nickname for her.]
Well, it’s where my thoughts go when “people” start calling for others to die in gas chambers — flooding the mind with the ghoulish stage props of Auschwitz and Schutzstaffel, the elite unit which maintained the political power of the Nazi Party. [The SS was given authority to establish and run the secret police organizations, the Gestapo and the Sipo, effectively putting the SS above the law - hmmm, sound familiar?]
Sadism is a peversion, and torture is always at the top of the gang’s list, whether at Abu Ghraib or Guantanimo or an underground of ghost flights, black-site torture prisons in which to hide secret detainees.
Surprise, surprise. All this fevered talk of torture is just their foreplay. Here’s an excerpt from THE LITTLE FASCIST: What Do You Say After You Say Hello? [1971] by the late Dr. Eric Berne:
A fascist may be defined as a person who has no respect for living tissue and regards it as his prey. This arrogant attitude is no doubt a relic of the prehistory of the human race, still surviving in the gusto of cannibalism and the joys of massacre. For carnivorous anthropoids on the hunt, ruthlessness meant efficiency and greed was motivated by hunger. But as the human mind and brain evolved through natural selection, these qualities were not bred out. After they were no longer necessary for survival, they became detached from their original goal of bringing down the dinner meat and degenerated into ends in themselves, luxuries often indulged in and enjoyed at the expense of other human beings. Ruthlessness developed into cruelty, and greed into exploitation and theft. Since the prey, the flesh itself and especially human flesh, was largely replaced by more compliant stomachfilling commodities, it began to be used to satisfy psychological hungers. The pleasures of torture replaced or preceded the pleasures of eating, and “He He” took over from “Yum Yum.” It became less important to kill him (or her) than to hear and watch him (or her) scream and grovel. This became the essence of fascism, a roving band seeking male or female prey to torment or deride, whose art lay in probing for the victim’s weakness.
There are two by-products of the grovel, both of them advantageous to the aggressor. The biological effect is sexual pleasure and excitement, with the victim available to indulge even the most ingenious perversions… The other by-product is a purely commercial one. The victim always has valuables which can yield a profit.
Our soldiers in Afghanistan and especially in Iraq, are coming home with serious cases of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Like no era since the Civil War. They are deployed again and again – and, fucking AGAIN! I know soldiers on their third fucking deployment. I talk to serving enlisted men and women on a weekly basis. They are LOYAL to this country. A year ago they were loyal to the regime in power here. This is changing. Not organizationally, but individually, as they and their families are tested, and they see little help coming for fellow soldiers, marines and airmen who have had traumatic experiences or who know they have been exposed to DU over long periods of time.
But our soldiers are adults, and are trained superficially to deal with it, even though, when it happens, they are discouraged from following their earlier training and seeking help – end of career, dude or babe.
Imagine, though, you are an eight-year-old, living in Rafah or Gaza RIGHT NOW:
AM – Monday, 3 July , 2006 08:08:00
Reporter: David Hardaker
03ELIZABETH JACKSON: To find out just what it’s like for the Palestinians in Gaza David Hardaker spent the night in the home of a Palestinian family to file this report.
(Sound of artillery fire)
DAVID HARDAKER: This is the sound of Gaza by night: first the dull thud of distant artillery fire.
(Sound of artillery fire)
At 2am, the beating blades of an Israeli Apache helicopter.
(Sound of helicopter)
This is the one which destroyed the office of Palestinian Prime Minister and Hamas leader, Ismail Haniyeh.
An hour later, some close Israeli shelling.
(Sound of shelling)
But none of this disturbs the sleep of the Ishanti family, who live on Gaza’s coast.
(Sound of a child speaking)
Indeed, it’s only in the morning, as the family is having breakfast, that the truly terrifying sound arrives.
(Sound of a sonic boom)
That’s a sonic boom, created by an Israeli jet speeding overhead.
Karam Ishanti is the head of the house. His wife Rheem has been comforting their one-year-old daughter and Karam has been holding their three-year-old son Basil. He’s been telling him the noise is nothing more than a big balloon.
KARAM ISHANTI: I became shaking. The child beside me immediately hugged me. She became frightened. I tried to (inaudible) her despite the fact that I myself was shaking.
DAVID HARDAKER: This has happened at 8:40 in the morning. Is that unusual?
KARAM ISHANTI: yeah, it’s… really, it used to happen in the early morning at three o’clock or four or five. It’s a call for us to get up, a call for (inaudible) to be afraid in the morning.
DAVID HARKER: And as the family is recovering from the first, five minutes later another one comes along.
(Sound of another sonic boom)
KARAM ISHANTI: You can’t hear the voice of the plane before the sonic boom happens. It happens suddenly, so as an old man you will be shaking. We are lucky now that the rest of the children are sleeping. They didn’t get up.
DAVID HARDAKER: That’s two sonic booms in the space of 10 minutes.
KARAM ISHANTI: Yeah, exactly, that’s right.
They used to shoot a lot of sonic booms. Within five minutes you can have five sonic booms.
DAVID HARDAKER: Sonic booms have not only been terrifying Palestinians, they’ve been smashing the windows of houses and in some cases causing rooves to collapse.
(Sound of children speaking)
That’s the story here in the Shaati refugee camp.
A sonic boom in the middle of the day brought the roof down in these cramped quarters, home to three generations of Adnan Abu Jazia’s family.
(Sound of Adnan Abu Jazia speaking)
“A roof 10 by 13 metres collapsed and fell over our heads,” he says. “My cousins were coming to help me paint the house because of my wedding in the next few days. Two of them were injured and we took them to the hospital.”
What was once the family’s living room is now a junkyard of metal beams, plastic sheeting and smashed brick.
Already in this home electricity is on again and off again and running water is scarce, but none of this makes Adnan Abu Jazia believe that the Palestinians should return the kidnapped Israeli soldier.
(Sound of Adnan Abu Jazia speaking)
“What is the fault of the people here?” He asks. “Are we to be blamed for the kidnapped soldier? We should be safe in our house, because we don’t have any relationship with the kidnapped soldier.”
Karen Abu Zeid is senior UN official in charge of the agency’s relief effort in Gaza.
KAREN ABU ZEID: Well, especially on the children, and some of the adults that say the same thing, what a real psychological terror it is for them. And, you know, they just can’t understand what the point is, except to frighten them, and I think that is all the point is.
ELIZABETH JACKSON: Karen Abu Zeid, a head of the UN’s refugee agency in Gaza. David Hardaker with that report.
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2006/s1677042.htm
hey, siun!! love ya!
siun, Ed*ard Teller – someone’s got to say it: this is a pogrom
AirportCat @ 94:
Ah…you know how it is.
;>)
punaise,
I gotta be careful. If you google -my [real] name- (I think you know it, punaise does) anti-Semite, you get way too many articles. There should be none. From such illustrious sites as moonbat central and Steven Plaut (who recently lost a libel case in the Israeli courts initiated by somebody he was no less kind to than me).
So, I can’t respond to your delicious wit right here or now, beyond – progrom, indeed. GAZAGRAD seems as fitting.
ET – mum’s the word
…when I was coming up, women who acted like the Coulter Group were usually threatened at home and told by their mothers that men paid the bills so always be their doormats…it was a survival situation and these ladies believed supporting other women over men was an error they couldn’t afford to make…it was always about the money…to suck up to wealthy prospective husbands, know where their bread was buttered and never forget it…they wore straight hair and dressed in neutral shapes and colors (beige, beige and more beige)…they were as dull as dishwater but underneath dangerous and desperate…I always felt sorry for them…frankly I am sick of giving so much air space to Coulter…can’t we just ignore her for awhile?…she’s the Paris Hilton of TV commentators and has no class… what more can be said?
Hi E.T. – I was off reading and making notes when yours appeared – on the same track.
and Punaise – you are precisely right – progrom it is. And financed and outfitted by the US.
It’s also disturbing to recognize that a lot of the torture techniques used by the US in Iraq are precisely those used daily in Israel against Palestinians.
The Israel approach becomes the model for the US occupation of Iraq – in fact, US troops have adopted the Israeli practice of simply bulldozing Iraqi houses (see the article Zennurse linked to earlier tonight)
and throughout it all, it is the children who suffer
I agree with No. 3 (the last suggestion). I have observed this type of harpie quite often in my many years of working. Trouble is — when they get “old” (read: lose their “youthful” looks, it’s over. Problem is — then they have no friends.) Then what are the next 40 years like? Does the money keep you warm at night?
As for Coulter — even Bill Maher will turn against “her.”
The Brits seem to have the Americans figured out, dead on. “Obsessed with money.” I have asked over and over: what’s in it for them? Cheney has more money than both him as his gay wife, plus their daughters and the daughter’s family could ever possibly spend. Power? ROFL Is that sick, on-death’s doorstep freak powerful, almost dead when he is barely 60? If THAT is power, give me the opposite, please!
mum’s the word, for ET that is. obviously that word is frought with historical baggage.
from dictionary.com:
I’ve been thinking a lot about which recent historical periods compare best to what is happening on our slippery slope in Bushworld. As I’ve been reading poems by Neruda and Borges, looking for lyrics, I’ve been regaining competency in Spanish. The native countries of those two literary giants seem to be the best examples out there to what is happening here.
I’ve read a lot about the Desaparecidos of Argentina and Chile. First world industrial quasi-democracies with a history of authoritarian lapses fell victim to a coalition of the miltary, the church, the corporations and the press. Scores and scores of thousands of people were killed because they were “liberals.” It can happen here.
Part of the reason it is difficult to create historical models like authoritaive books about that era in Argentina and Chile is because, even now, the people there – even the victims – have a hard time coming to terms with how it all came to begin and progress, step by step.
No wonder Bushworld is seeking to attenuate what we’re doing here.
This is odd. I just googled my last name (only 24 hits) one of them was a direct link to the comment I made on the FDL sorrow thread. My full name and e-mail address included. I don’t mind at all, just thought folks might want a heads up.
punaise,
When describing what is happening in Gaza and the West Bank it is probably best to avoid terms which evoke trans-generational PTSD from Jews. I’m convinced from the hundreds of hours I’ve spent since beginning my research on Rachel Corrie, that holocaust survivors and their descendants are justifiably bitter when they see terms like “progom” or Gazagrad” in reference to Israeli crimes in Palestine. Neither of those terms relates directly to the holocaust, but could bring out trans-generational PTSD.
I’m trying to look for models in describing what is going on in the occupied territories (yes, Gaza is once again occupied) from the Argentine, South African and Spanish Civil War traumas.
ET: fair ’nuff. how about Guernica then?
ESArk,
Imagine how tidy your image might be at the NSA……
punaise,
es verdad, amigo! donde esta usted ahora, senor Picasso? (so true, my friend! Where are you now, Pablo?)
ET – They must be incredibly bored.
Noticed you were trout fishing earlier. Have you ever tried trout sashimi dipped in minced garlic and soy?
Ed*ard Teller,
Just got back from a 4th of July party and stumbled across this. It is unbelievable how completely clueless Sen. Stevens is. The MP3 of his rant is agonizing. You guys have to start a recall or something. It’s practically a mental-health issue at this point.
Leisure Guy – in response to your modest umbrage taken at my characterization of Kevin Drum last night:
“earnest but kinda clueless / tone deaf Kevin Drum never seems to get it quite right, but he tries.”
you said:
…the unsolicited and (in my view) unnecessary comments on what a dork he is struck me as destructive of a sense of community and Democratic bonding…
I reply:
OK, I see where you’re coming from, perhaps I can clarify. I used to read Kevin Drum quite frequently but haven’t for some time now; just drop by from time to time. I know he’s generally “one of the good guys”, yet he often twists himself into a contorted caricature of the “can’t we all just get along” school of Kumbaya centrists. Whether it be from a zeal to be exceptionally fair and balanced, or just playing devil’s advocate, that sort of positioning seems to prevent him from taking a firm stand on issues that are so clear to so many of us. (in fairness, I did later state that he did come out firmly in support of Ned Lamont).
In any case, I think Kevin earns an occasional dose of mild derision, which in this case was intended to capture a sense of this haplessness. I didn’t mean it as condescension – goodness knows I couldn’t hold a candle to his expertise in many fields. In fact, have a healthy respect for a lot of what he does – health care, economics, environmental, political analysis…
1) Dover Bitch,
ROFLACATST (rolling on the floor laughing and crying at the same time!!!).
I don’t think I could take the audio after four beers. The transcript is pure Saint Ted, though. Sometimes I’m totally convinced that W learned “No, I’m not finished” from Stevens.
What a blithering rant. No wonder his staff didn’t return my calls at the beginning of last week. No wonder he and Dan Inouye aren’t talking for the first time at this point in the progress of legislation they’re both heavily invested in.
Thanks for sharing that. It is precious.
Eureka Springs,
I never make sashimi from seafood caught in fresh water. We got skunked, but had a great time.
heh – I’m on a short leash tonight. another moderated comment…(sorry for the extra work, moderator). ‘night, all.
Jeezuz F’ing Keyrist. This guy is writing the Telecom Bill??? We, as a nation, are completely screwed.
My letters to Sens. Stevens and Murkowski have always been serious, but I am sorely, sorely tempted……….
Kos has a stream going on this and I’m sure it is so precious that Redd will be thankful for Patriot week examples of how in touch with reality our senior (moment) senate leadership really is.
My letter to Sen. Stevens:
Dear Sen. Stevens,
I called your office last Monday, encouraging you to find time to come to a compromise with your good friend Sen. Daniel Inouye on the important telecommunications bill before your committee. I’m sorry you have been too busy since then dealing with the clogged internet to be able to reply to longstanding supporters’ communications.
This Sunday evening, perusing leftwing internet sites, I was shocked to see what I thought surely to be a phony transcript of statements the site attributed to you this week. But there was an MP3 link which had your voice making the same statements as the transcript. I was able to download it in less than 30 seconds. I listened and determined the transcript was 99% likely to be accurate.
I had earlier read your recent speech to a group of telecom executives on this same issue. I was surprised at the tightness of the case you made to those executives, even though I felt Inouye’s position to have more substance on the issue.
But I am seriously worried, sir, after listening to your speech this past week, that you are deeply out of your depth on this issue. When making a prepared speech, you seemed to be on your game, but in your unprepared remarks last week, you seriously embarrassed me, and all informed Alaskans.
It may be time for you to back off a bit on this before your incompetence on this becomes so obvious to further endanger the hegemony your party so undeservedly enjoys nationally.
Wishing you and Catherine our best on the 4th!
Sincerely,
Philip Munger
Coulter, Atlas and Maglalang have theirs coming: hatred ages one quickly and cruelly, and they know once they are just a few years older the wingnut “boys” will stop noticing they even exist except as some wack old lady with a guttermouth.
Dover Bitch @ 1:23 am (#121) – I can tell you he hasn’t a clue about why the DoD has its own network. Actually, it has several of its own networks. The short answer is they’re easier to administer and expand if they’re all separate. The other reason is for security purposes. They have a small number of gateways to the rest of the Internet that are easily controlled.
And I’d say he needs to work on that tubes metaphor a little. I was about to write him to say we’d replaced them with transistors.
too precious to be true. Tried sending to Saint Ted, got this:
Sorry, the http://Stevens.senate.gov web page you have requested is experiencing technical difficulties. The Webmaster has been alerted.
You will be automatically redirected to the http://Stevens.senate.gov Home page after 10 seconds.
If this problem persists, please contact the Office of the Secretary Webmaster at webmaster@sec.senate.gov.
it then goes blank. Humor or purpose or the fickle finger of fate……?
Ed*ard Teller @ 2:22 am (#129) – Apparently, someone’s filled the Senator’s tubes with illegal music downloads.
cujo,
the tubes thing is weird, isn’t it? Maybe comes from working in a vacuum…
Dover Bitch @ 1:42 am (#124) – Jeezuz F’ing Keyrist. This guy is writing the Telecom Bill??? We, as a nation, are completely screwed.
Actually, I’m sure Verizon, Sprint, and Comcast wrote the bill. They employ quite a few writers, I’m sure. Nothing to worry about.
this is hilarious. I’ve contacted Stevens’s site several times in the past month and it always comes up in seconds. Tonight, his home page took almost five minutes, the contact Ted page is going on three.
Finally came through. Total process – eleven minutes. Go ahead and try yourselves……
Edward Teller – Hmmm. The “contact” page came up right away for me. Is it after you tried to send a message that the trouble started?
cujo,
I don’t know. You saw the error msg I got earlier. Maybe a kink in the tube, eh?
ET – They may have scheduled some sort of maintenance tonight. Tomorrow should be a light day, and they may have decided to get an early start and make any upgrades, etc., that they’ve been meaning to get around to.
it was pretty funny to have that happen right then, Wish what appears to be an anomoly could have been experienced by other doggies as well,
file this under “probably never happen”
everybody give up cable.
why should we fund the other side. that’s mostly what it is.
take the money you would send to your cable subscriber each month and send it to a candidate or cause of your choice.
take the time you would devote to watching msm and all the pundits and give it to the roots project.
just a thought.
now let me whack on ann coulter some more.
epu’d from before:
“she should get a job uncogging sewers or birthing calves with those long arms and manhands. get a job that does not require speaking.”
squirrel hiller, much as I’d love to join your cable boycott, I rely on The Weather Channel too much to risk that.
As to your career counsel to AC — hey, whatcha got against cows? Sewers all the way for that one.
Ah jeez. I’m reading Sy Hersh in the July 7 New Yorker. Samples:
George W. Bush, the president who put the United States of America on the wrong side of history.
Women are certainly capable of forming their own opinions — even odious ones — without off-stage help from men. There are plenty of “submitted” women out there who baldly assert their deference to the patriarchy, but from what I’ve seen from Coulter, Malkin, et al, there’s no reason to assume they’re in that category.
Frankly, I think it infantilizes all women to speculate that the poor dears couldn’t arrive at their wingnuttery without male guidance or that they are faking their hateful schtick solely for male attention. Now, to the extent that they attempt to use their (cough) sex appeal to bolster their bankrupt arguments, by all means, rip away on them. But the puppet-master line of speculation strikes me as unfair.
I’m with hauksdottir on the sports and “male” activities issue. I have more male friends than female ones, mainly because we enjoy the same activities. I sure hope their girlfriends don’t regard me with suspicion because I like to watch football. I’ll gladly watch it with women too; it just so happens that fewer women seem interested in it.
Incidentally, I come by my football fanaticism via the matriarchal line. In my family, you won’t find the ladies doing dishes on Thanksgiving while the menfolk cluster around the TV. You’ll find a gaggle of grandmas, mothers, aunties, nieces and daughters glued to the gridiron action.
Oh, and
OT
AP – Three Palestinian militant groups that captured an Israeli soldier issued a statement Monday giving Israel less than 24 hours to start releasing 1,500 Palestinian prisoners or “bear all the consequences.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..0bQ–
yesterday Sy Hersch was interviewed on TV: the good news from him is that the White House has told the Pentagon: ixnay on the ukesnay. Now the DoD is trying to figure out how to deal with Iran militarily with conventional weapons…
…oh and crap, the server hiccuped on me. One last thing: Last year, I won the rather huge office college football bowl pool. The (male) runner up had the gall to ask me if my husband helped me make my picks. Grrr. I told him I don’t take the last two weeks of the year off every year solely to bake holiday cookies. I take it off to revel uninterrupted in even the most obscure college bowl games.
Sorry so long. This kinda touched a nerve, I guess.
sad to say, I know the answer to the blogs quesstion;
why are these women doing this?
it’s because bin laden won
he’s done more then he hoped, he devided our people and we are not united anymore, we are terrorized not only by foreign agents, but by natve agents
bush rov co took the ball bon laden gave him and ran with it.
we are turning into a theocracy, devided geographically, philosphically, educationally, spiritually, our intention in education is devided, our military forces are weakoned and devided
and we are terrorised.
it would seem this president has been an agent of bin laden, playing into his hands every step of the way
from standing down when told with precise intel we would be attacked on our own soil using commercial jets targeting financial and political structures, to standing down norad whiile he our military watched commercial airliners do u turns in the sky for 45 minutes, to waiting months before the military response, giving time for bin laden to make good his escape, to standing down when bin laden was captured at the foot hills of tora bora, to diverting the funds and forces we needed in Iraq to initiate and aggression unasociated, to exacerbating the fight against terrorism by attackin a nation that posed no threat to us, to squandering the good will and respect the world had toward america, squandering world wide support for support in eliminating terrorism, to squandering our national treasure and resources economically and militarily, to turning us into a theocrac.
the list goes on and on
doesn’t it surely appear as though bush is in the same team as bin laden?
he’s facilitated him every step of the way
the complete Sy Hersch New Yorker article : http://www.newyorker.com/fact/…..710fa_fact
herch gets it wrong;
Good morning!
Good morning back, tommy! So good to hear from you every day, but especially when you don’t sound as gloomy as the rest of have so far today.
the rest of us, that was spozed to be
Gosh, lotus…give me a chance to get started!
GOOD MORNING !
HI, *ILSON!!! How you, m’man?
It’s all very simple. You see, its all about Daddy. These girls (Contrarians Coulter and Malkin) are Daddy’s girls, the ones who got to get out of the kitchen and sit by Daddy’s knee because the knew all the right things to say. They sure as hell aren’t like Mommy, who Daddy has no respect for, so they go out into the world to please the Daddy world, and hate the weak willed Mommies out there.
Face it, the Repub vs. Dem is a Daddy, Mommy thing. Who do you want running things, Big Daddy Govt who keeps you safe, or Mommy welfare?
new thread !
Good Morning Firelambs,
Hey Betty Cracker – Welcome to FDL
sounds like you should be at my house those last two weeks every year – a former sports fanatic who came by it honestly, I’ve lost passionate interest in all but College Football AND College Basketball.
You should be using that whole helpless/clueless female idea against them – many’s the time I’ve used “clueless bluster” to take even more of their money !
btw, there is baking going on – just so long as it doesn’t interfere with the Boise State – Marshall game . . .
I don’t want my damn gummint in loco pateris OR materis either one, kristinejoy. I just want it Constitutional, honest and transparent, dang it.
I’m sorry, I used the wtong psste
what I meant was hearch in the new yorker gets it wrong
The high-ranking general added that the military’s experience in Iraq, where intelligence on weapons of mass destruction was deeply flawed,
there was no flawed intel
the intel was that bin laden was no threat, the intel was that the munitions were gone, the intel was that there were no longer wmd programs and the intel was that saddam was the lowest threat to the us in 10 years
none of the military generals wanted to initiate the unprovoked attack on a second front and there was NO flawed intel on wmd’s
the milistary was AGAINST the attack and the intel was AGAINST the attack
drft dodgers with no military experience or clue overuled the sage advise of the finest military minds on the planet
so they could satisfy the edict put forward by the sick fraternity called the PNAC that they were all members
the ONLY people that wanted this war were the members of that sick fraternity…that’s it
me neither, lotus.
But it is the simplist most basic frame out there.
Actually, I kind of view Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter as Darth Maul and Darth Sidiois respectively. It seems like Michelle is desperate to be just like Ann.
I remember when Malkin “broke the news” of Cindy Sheehan’s divorce as “proof” her husband did not support her and what not. As if divorce proceedings had any bearing.
But my favorite is how Michelle calls anyone who is not accept her views like a robot a “moonbat”.
Take the test. Which quote is Coulter’s/Hitler’s. Coverthishistory…English majors will do best.
Harpies like Coulter and Malkin are to punditry what Marilyn Manson is to music, freak shows for shock value %u2014 “Look at me, or I’ll die”. The best thing we can do is ignore them.
manson may be a freak show to you–but he makes some great music.
I don’t think anyone is feeding these women anything,at least not anymore than the men and wherever their talking points come from.It all comes from the same cesspool and isn’t gender specific.
It’s kinda like those Girls Gone Wild videos.All those college age young women aren’t really lesbians,they’re straight trying to get men’s attention.If you asked most of them if they’d stick with other females exclusively as a sexual preference,my guess is the answer is no.
I knew alot of girls like this in high school,if it got them male attention,that was a green light to go further.The thing is,these girls had no idea what the guys said about them behind their backs.It wasn’t pretty.I saw some of this later,when I was one of a handful of women working at an auto plant after I got out of high school.In that case though,I think some of it was self preservation,because the harassment got quite intense at times.Which puzzled me(I was a naive 19 yr old then),because the best way of stopping that harassment was standing up to it.The guys respected that much more than playing along.
In a sense I think the right is using women as a shield,that infallable victim thing Coulter pulled out of her ass.You attack a woman for being vile and nasty,it makes you a bully right out of the starting gate.
They’re filled with murderous hate and Republican men love them because they’re masochists looking for a dominatrix to march all over them in her silleto heels.
To paraphrase Preston Sturges, feminism isn’t merely dead, it’s decomposed.
Cujo, E Teller, et al
re Ted Stevens – he needs to have his tubes tied.
I posted a few days ago that this link http://goldsea.com/Personaliti…..alkin.html suggests that MM had very little political to say before she met her husband
Jesse Malkin “Toward the end of her Oberlin career she signed on with an independent campus newspaper that was being started by a Jewish student named Jesse Malkin. Malkin would later become Maglalang’s husband. He also had an immediate and lasting impact on Michelle’s political views.”
I was attacked to be anti-Semite for posting that but I am only referring to her husbands influence over her. Another link suggest that JM. Has ongoing influence
http://liberalavenger.com/2005…..gging.html
MM. is obviously a blithering bat on her own but the overall hatefull money making product that is MM. is a product of her husbands etc. ideology and not so much her own…this is a further low in personal character beyond that which she spews- if possible.
I don’t really get the point here. Unless you believe that a woman’s default position is reasonable, progressive, tolerant, why shouldn’t there be plenty of female wingnuts spewing Right-wing hate?
Hmmm…the Limbaughs & Colters describe women who have opinions other than the rightwing creed feminazis, strident, shrill, harpies, radical, mannish & so on. Strange similarities with the descriptions of Colter, Malking, Morgan, Ingraham etc. Should we call them femicons?
I was actually “friends” with a dyed in the wool, tubby white boy neocon for awhile (he was offering a job that I thought I wanted; turned out he was all hot air). Coulter was his ultimate wet dream; he called me breathless with excitement the day Ann made her “kill their leaders and convert them all to Christianity” statement. The level of sxexual excitement in his voice was beyond creepy and it was my first hint that this guy was a nut and not just someone with other political views. At the time I had little idea who coulter was but I soon found out. I pointed out the inherent inanity of her statement to him which led to him acting like I had just called his girlfriend a hooker.
So, I have to go for the arguement that these rabid harpys really get the wood on for a lot of these guys. The way they like to talk with each other about the comments of these
ladies” leaves me with the feeling that I am watching a very bizarre group sex/masturbation scene.
I know this doesn’t really matter, but a “distaff” in the context of spinning a thread is an instrument that holds flax (or other fiber) for a spinner at her wheel so that her fiber supply is available but she doesn’t have to hold it in her hand. And the thing that spins is called a “whorl” not a “whirl.” Sorry to spoil the pun, but I’m a spinner of yarn. Thanks!
Here’s my theory: In a futile attempt at self-preservation, women who’ve gained notoriety as right wing extremists will experience a prolonged and complex state that I like to call -and forgive me, it’s a lengthy term but its onomatopoeic value is irresistable- the “Oh no oh no oh no I’m not like Peggy Noonan I tell ya I’m not I’m not” phase. This, in the vain hope of avoiding the inevitable and terrifying descent into patterns of thought shared by, well, Peggy Noonan. The very prospect drives them to the brink of society. Exhibit A: Peg’s latest homage to the Wetnurse in Chief:
“Bush the Younger would breastfeed the military if he could.”
http://www.opinionjournal.com/…..=110008579
Now be honest. If your DNA reads “female”, and your RW “mind” is at risk of ever creating such thoughts, what wouldn’t you be willing to do to prevent it? As they slip helplessly down into the ceramic bowl of puditory madness, their options are limited. Either they can frantically extend talons -as we are witnessing- ….or they can make close friends with enormous tumbers of gin.
Wendy 171 – thanks for setting the record straight. dictionary.com had it as “whirl”.
Gee, I see the poster and I find it coincidental. Last night, I was listning to the syndicated rock radio show “Underground Garage” and I remember one of the songs was, “Bikini Babes with Machine Guns.”
considering the blood lust noises that “Adams Apple” Annie, and “Our Lady of the Concentration Camps” Malkin have been farting out, the above mentioned song seems apropos.
#157 CBL, thank you! I am a frequent reader but infrequent poster here. The threads move so fast it’s hard to stay in the conversation unless you can devote some time to following it.
I’m a cookie baker too, but, as you said, as long as it doesn’t interfere with the a bowl game. I can’t count how many batches I’ve burned while caught up in a compelling drive.
one of the songs was, “Bikini Babes with Machine Guns.”
in that vein, from Austin Powers: Barbie doll robots with, ahem, armed breasts.
Hooters shooters?
floozies with Uzis?
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That cover has Coulter and Malkin on it, but who is the redhead? Punditry must not always pay well if you have to resort to that sort of modeling.
I agree with your analysis, at least to some extent. Here’s how I think it works. Coulter, Malkin, and others like them see the Rethuglican party as a party of “he-men”- men who are simple and straightforward- not nuanced, not sophisticated, and having no nurturing qualities. They are the John Waynes and Clint Eastwoods- you know the type- they see things in the simplest terms, in black and white instead of shades of gray. Coulter, et al. believe that women had better act tough in order to be accepted by the he-men in the party. They know that women who don’t act tough get relegated to the traditional female duties- stay at home, cook, clean, care for the kids and serve the he-man. Coulter, Malkin, and their ilk love acting like one of the boys because that gives them the right to speak out, unlike their subservient, good Christian women counterparts in the party who have to act like Stepford wives. Just my two cents. Talk is cheap and so is my psycho-analysis.
OMG, this is TMI but I have vivid memories of viewing the trailer for “Deadlier Than the Male” at the movies, sitting next to my Grandfather, and trying to hide the pre-pubescent stirrings in my pants. He concluded that, based on my reaction to the trailer, I’d be interested in seeing the full feature length film.
I ended up never seeing it, at all. Too young. I shoulda been born in the 50s.
I think that they simply can’t handle losing – especially their power and influence.
The Things They Carried is a masterful work. Nice analogy.