
You know, we spent a lot of time asking for an explanation by Bill Keller as to what went on with Judy Miller. We'd still like to know. Because we'd like the New York Times to be trustworthy. Reliable. Better. Take responsibility for their mistakes.
Melanie Morgan, along with her fellow eliminationist fantasy twin Ol' 60 Grit O'Beirne, is a regular on Hardball. You have to wonder what they would have to do or say to get bounced from that gig. Says Morgan regarding Keller:
If he were to be tried and convicted of treason, yes, I would have no problem with him being sent to the gas chamber.
Greg Sargent contacted MSNBC to see if Morgan would get a return trip to Hardball after advocating for Keller's death:
MSNBC spokesperson Schwartz just got back to me. The answer: No comment. So apparently Melanie Morgan won't pay any kind of price for this. After all, what's another hateful, vicious diatribe among friends?
What exactly is it going to take before Matthews and Company acknowledge the damage they do to the public discourse by offering these people a megaphone? It really is well past time they draw the line and banish these harridans to the wingnut ghetto where they belong.
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I was appalled at that Morgan person the other night.
I hope like hell she’s never on HardBRAWL again.
Turd!
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“If he were to be tried and convicted of treason, yes, I would have no problem with him being sent to the gas chamber.”
LMFAO.
I hate to tell ya, Melanoma Moron, Keith Olbermann burst that fucking bubble last night. This stuff was no secret whatsoever.
Has anyone compiled a recent list of the homicidal rantings of the Republican-conservatives and forwarded said list to Ramesh Ponnoru?
I think the real “Party of Death” is showing their true colors.
-GSD
Spork, are you still here?
If Ol’ 60 Grit got into a fight with Edie Tarbox, who would win?
(Not America, certainly)
Re: Melanie Morgan
KO on Countdown just named her “worst person in the world” ; )
“It is about revealing classified secrets in the time of war. And the media has got to take responsibility for revealing classified information that is putting American lives at risk.”
- Melanoma Moron
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Dumbass Bitch, the NYT didn’t publish ANYTHING “classified” here.
http://www.swift.com/
Look this isn’t rocket science. Send a letter to MSNBC, attention: Dan Abrams. Tell him of your displeasure and then TURN THE T.V. OFF. Abrams is new, the programming is vulnerable, numbers are everything, and with a little bit of luck this problem will fix itself.
“It is about revealing classified secrets in the time of war. And the media has got to take responsibility for revealing classified information that is putting American lives at risk.”
But only the media. Because it’s totally cool when the government does it.
At best people like Chris Matthews are standing by as they let radical crazies incite violence in this country. At worst they’re complicit, like major media figures who helped ignite the Rwandan massacre. Dave Neiwert at Orcinus is a stand-out site for understanding the depth of danger from this relentless, insidious hatred.
I’m not sure enough people take this hate on the airwaves seriously enough. Sure it’s all fun and games to sit around and call for the death of people, then head off and share cocktails with each other. But what about the troglodytes that watch and listen to this stuff? They’re the ones likely to go the next step and actually act. We’re just going to have to wait until someone gets killed, aren’t we? But even then I’m sure the Chris Matthews will find some rationalization to avoid responsibility.
There is no limit to this utter whore. Or the entire whore media culture. Truly. Their whipped submissiveness to mac daddy rove is without any bounds whatever.
oh and fitz! kitts! leisureguy! jane! rootz! christy! fiona! birds! dogs! the still cool america of people!
They’re the ones likely to go the next step and actually act. We’re just going to have to wait until someone gets killed, aren’t we?
I don’t think it really makes much difference. It’s always just some lone nut/bad apple, nothing to do with them.
“harridans” — good word! It needs to be used more often about the Phyllis Schafleys et al
Um, in the moonbat’s defense, it WAS an “if…then” statement, so she’s pretty much off the hook. The penalty for treason is still death in a lot of places. Just for fun, replace the “he” with “Ann Coulter” in the statement (you can change “him” to “her” if you’d like, too). See? Now it’s a much less disturbing mental picture.
fitz! kitts! leisureguy! jane! redd! birds! what’s left of america, us people!
Um, in the moonbat’s defense, it WAS an “if…then” statement, so she’s pretty much off the hook.
“Wingnut” or “dingbat”, if you please.
My point being that the chances of Bill Keller being convicted of treason are about on par with W’s chances of getting inducted into Mensa. I wouldn’t even be willing to bet the change under the couch cushions on it.
Thanks for the post Jane, because Melanie’s comment seemed like a disturbingly hallucinatory rant. Would one dare say the word “psychopath”?
If she’s a denizen of the wingnut ghetto, I want it to be a gated community. On an island.
fwiw, the gas chamber hasn’t been used in the USA for a legal execution since 1999 (Arizona, March 4th, 1999 on Walter LeGrand))
Of course, I continue to believe that a trial on this issue, while it would be a travesty of justice, would be terrific entertainment.
There is no declaration of war from Congress.
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Just so nobody else has to; I did get the gist, but wanted MORE. (via Nisus Thesaurus plug-in for OS X 10.2.8 aka ‘Jaguar’.)
“harridans (as in “harridan”) n. : a scolding (even vicious) old woman”
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Your friendly neighborhood Kludge.
The Rethugs and their megaphones sure are geering up the spinning. It is making me dizzy and giving me whiplash.
The more vile, vitral spewing of venom daily means that they are loosing control. When “WE” were the quite docile little sheep they just spread the standard “scare” line.
Amazingly, there are Democrats who are hitting back (boohoo that nasty Democrat punched me back) and standing up for our constitution.
Thanks for the post Jane, because Melanie’s comment seemed like a disturbingly hallucinatory rant. Would one dare say the word “psychopath”?
If she’s a denizen of the wingnut ghetto, I want it to be a gated community. On an island.
I’d say there’s anywhere between five and twenty (hell, maybe more) of these kinds of loonies who get invited back again and again, or even given their own shows (Beck, Savage). And yet hardly anyone seems to think the right is unhinged. It’s kind of scary, really.
An example of previous travesty of justice that made for great entertainment:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29308
“Spork, are you still here?
If Ol’ 60 Grit got into a fight with Edie Tarbox, who would win”
Geez…tough call. Who can resist a tarbox?
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Apparently, there are Ann Coulter wanna-bes, as hard as that is to imagine.
I heard the roundtable in the car on the way home tonight, and the Sandpaper Shrew could not have been any deeper in the Admin’s lap; it was disgusting, and if she even read the SC opinion, she’s lost the ability - if she ever had it - to take a legal opinion on its face, and not through the lens of her own bias. How is this helpful to anyone?
I guess I have gotten to the point where it isn’t that I don’t want to hear opposing opinions - I enjoy a good debate and believe that real debate is how we often reach an acceptable middle ground. At a minimum, real debate sharpens the issues, and gives us things to think about and consider.
I listen to AirAmerica, and I read a wide selection of liberal/progressive points of view. I listen to liberals attempt - in vain - to engage conservatives in discussion of the issues. Is it just me - am I so biased that I am only hearing talking points from many conservatives, and little but downright smears from them as well?
Listening to conservatives talk about the banking surveillance program, for example, I don’t hear facts at all. It was just like Barney Frank said today - that the House resolution stated as fact what the administration wants to put out as the truth about the program, when in fact, no one knew for certain that any of the assertions in it were true.
I mean, what function does Chris Matthews actually serve? What does he bring to a discussion that sheds any light on issues? What function do any of them serve, for that matter?
I get so I am torn between continuing to take in information (if you can call it that ) from all sides - which usually leaves me with a pulsating vein in my temple - and some days just wanting to pull the covers over my head and forget that all this is going on.
/rant
Just a couple of thoughts to ponder. First, this type of rhetoric will by necessity lead to the ramping up of hatred and vitriol towards people in the media or their perceived friends. We are headed down a deadly road where some wingnut will not be satisfied until these perceived enemies of George Bush or the State are silenced.
In someone’s twisted mind they will look upon this breach as their rationale to take whatever measures necessary to silence this threat with force.
Unfortunately when this happens, and it will happen, this will only be the first shot into what will naturally escalate into full blown strife.
I don’t wear tinfoil hats, and I don’t believe in conspiracies, unless it involves Rover, but I do see the hardening of passions. Hell there are times when I feel like physically taking back my country, so I know the passions are real.
I don’t have an answer, a solution, or any plan to stop what I see as the inevitable. I’m a boomer, and I remember the streets in the 60’s, and like being in a time warp, we are again headed to the pavement, most likely spattered with blood.
God help us all.
Desperate goopers throw a bone to the NRA:
WASHINGTON - The House on Thursday passed legislation that would suspend a new requirement that gun dealers provide a trigger lock with every handgun they sell.
The development came on the heels of a 230-191 vote late Wednesday to block the Justice Department from enforcing the trigger lock law. The vote came during debate on a spending measure funding the department’s budget.
Despite the vote, suspension of the trigger lock mandate is not at all ensured. Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., the top GOP negotiator on the underlying Justice Department spending bill, voted against the idea. The Senate voted more than 2-1 to impose the requirement and has yet to act on the bill.
Jane/Christy…
…will either of you be posting an analysis of the Hamdan decision? I always come here to read excellent legal analysis of the events of the day…I popped over here thinking for sure you’d have something up.
Great time to get EPU’d. lotus, if you’re still around, the story of the piano and the rope is recounted (in excruciating detail) at the end of the last thread.
Jane,
This is exactly what MSNBC/FOX/CNN want. They want people like Morgan and Coulter to continually dehumanize and slander opponents of Bush/Rove/Cheney/Republicans. Chances are Matthews got a memo from the top brass at GE/MSNBC that said “attaboy, give us more Morgan and Coulter.”
Is there any doubt at this point that corporate media is an enemy of Democrats and progressives? I don’t think so.
Assimilated Press
Read “White House: Parts Of Constitution Written In Invisible Ink” at:
http://assimilatedpress.blogspot.com/
With about three months of blogosphere under my sash I now get who 60 Grit O’Beirne is. Take MannC and put her in a tanning booth for twenty thousand miserable years, presto. These Republicans are flopping around like a shark out of water.
Well….I go back and forth on the question of whether it’s better to shut these types of people up, or whether it’s better to let them air their lunacy and let the public see just how crazy they really are.
Part of the problem might be that too many Democrats are just too timid to publicly call them idiots and loons….right on national TV.
Ghostman
Read Anne at 26 and Elliot at 27 as ONE contiguous comment.
DC Pol Sci, Christy wll be posting on Hamdan first thing tomorrow.
All you need to know about MM
Bringing back the ol’ Spinster Lady look
Free Speech Enemy (BTW I know Steve and Virginia and they couldn’t be nicer people)
Looks to me as if any serious attempt to govern is officially on hold until the end of the election season. These fuckers might just as well go home now. We’re gonna get nothin but bullshit for the rest of this congress’s term.
Next- an anti bible burning amendment to the constitution.
Thanks, Leslie — be right back.
Just a couple of thoughts to ponder. First, this type of rhetoric will by necessity lead to the ramping up of hatred and vitriol towards people in the media or their perceived friends. We are headed down a deadly road where some wingnut will not be satisfied until these perceived enemies of George Bush or the State are silenced.
In someone’s twisted mind they will look upon this breach as their rationale to take whatever measures necessary to silence this threat with force.
Unfortunately when this happens, and it will happen, this will only be the first shot into what will naturally escalate into full blown strife.
I don’t wear tinfoil hats, and I don’t believe in conspiracies, unless it involves Rover, but I do see the hardening of passions. Hell there are times when I feel like physically taking back my country, so I know the passions are real.
They Shoot Judges, Don’t They?
Eli at 23 “Id say theres anywhere between five and twenty (hell, maybe more) of these kinds of loonies who get invited back again and again, or even given their own shows (Beck, Savage). And yet hardly anyone seems to think the right is unhinged. Its kind of scary, really.”
My feelings as well. I continue to be amazed that the Right, or at least the far Right, does not have a reputation for being totally crazed and vicious.
Oops, sorry.
Tarbox.
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OT but has anyone seen Alexander Cockburn’s hit piece on blogs in this week’s The Nation? The editors at TNR will have an orgasm when they read it, if they haven’t already.
My feelings as well. I continue to be amazed that the Right, or at least the far Right, does not have a reputation for being totally crazed and vicious.
They’re just a few bad apples, really.
Who get to be on TV over and over and over again.
Eli 43, they don’t believe in therapy; this is as close as they get to talking about their problems.
Eli says
June 29th, 2006 at 6:32 pm
My feelings as well. I continue to be amazed that the Right, or at least the far Right, does not have a reputation for being totally crazed and vicious.
They’re just a few bad apples, really.
Who get to be on TV over and over and over again.
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I honestly thought that 2004 was going to be the end of it. Then Bush got the most votes in history. Shows you what I know.
Eli 43, they don’t believe in therapy; this is as close as they get to talking about their problems.
“Mommy State never loved me!”
Jane, a couple of my CT recommendations, outside of pizza. For the car, 1300 AM, Progressive Talk Radio.
For a real seafood treat, have a genuine CT lobster roll. Completely different from most others. This ain’t no lobster salad. Hand-picked lobster meat grilled in butter and served in a toasted, buttered hot dog bun. To freakin’ die for. Best known for this Jimmies in West Haven and Lenny and Bruce’s in Clinton.
it is likely that Christy will have her Hamdan post up by noon tomorrow … it’s rather profound and her peanut is acting obstreperous
Hamdan is not a harridan, I suppose.
hmmm. new word.
I can’t agree that a trial of the NYT editors for treason, or the NYT for violation of some statute against sedition, would be “entertaining.”
This is not a joke, and the idiots who are advocating that Keller be tried for treason are serious and should be taken seriously. We are not living in a society where the Bill of Rights is secure, where the vast majority of Americans can see through the political demagoguery, and where our instititutions, particularly our courts, are so revered and committed to democratic principles and the 1st Amendment, that any challenge would be laughed out of court, let alone in some entertaining fashion.
The current ruling party is engaged in serious challenges to our form of government, and to the notion of free speech, free press and other Bill of Rights protections. — didn’t you read Glenn’s book? Are you not paying attention?
I honestly thought that 2004 was going to be the end of it. Then Bush got the most votes in history. Shows you what I know.
I thought “Mr. Personality” (bachelor contestants in masks, hosted by Monica Lewinsky), and then “The Littlest Groom” (just guess) would kill reality television.
There. Is. No. Bottom.
SharonW, just when my hunger pangs were dying down, you get me going again. *g*
Hamdan is not a harridan, I suppose.
hmmm. new word.
Hamridan?
I don’t think that’s kosher.
These TeeVee talk shows are entertainment- they depend on ratings- and wild language draws viewers.
Tweety had a WP guy on Hardball today who actually wanted to seriously discuss the issues. Tweety cut him off every time in favor of the ranters- he knows what drives his ratings.
If ya wanna be invited back- say something wild.
the SC decision is profound: Christy’s post might be …
klyde sez”
OT but has anyone seen Alexander Cockburn’s hit piece on blogs in this week’s The Nation? The editors at TNR will have an orgasm when they read it, if they haven’t already.
I haven’t seen it yet but I dislike Cockburn.
Since Snitchens left Cocburn is the shame of that rag.
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I can’t agree that a trial of the NYT editors for treason, or the NYT for violation of some statute against sedition, would be “entertaining.”
On the one hand, it would certainly be both gratifying and useful to see this bullshit given the legal spanking it so richly deserves. On the other hand, a trial gives it legitimacy, even if they lose.
And if they get the “right” judge, they might not lose, and then we’re *really* screwed.
Haw, Leslie — foxed those bros, you did. Kindly reminds me o’ what we fixin’ to do to them goopers (if they give us a chancet and don’t go ahead on and do it to theyseffs first).
resist. starting. another. punfest.
Eli, think of the children….
Waiting for Chris and Norah to understand there is a limit to incredulity, absurdity and damage to truth, when they give face and mike-time to likes of, for example Tom DeLay last night on weird-ball, is tantamount to waiting for Samuel Beckett’s Godot. These two peas in a pod won’t ever get it. And waiting for these characters to eventually wake up, is a prescription for sated frustration and insanity rooted in boredom.
resist. starting. another. punfest.
Eli, think of the children….
One a night is enough for me, really. And even that usually leaves me feeling kinda guilty for derailing the thread.
Best known for this Jimmies in West Haven and Lenny and Bruce’s in Clinton.
ROTFL at myself. I meant Lenny and Joe’s… Fishtail to be precise.
I had a brain fart. Now why on earth would Lenny Bruce have come to mind? Too funny.
Hamridan?
I don’t think that’s kosher.
Again, *snip*.
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lotus, they sure are messing things up for themselves, aren’t they? Now if we can just manage to throw them anvils instead of lifelines.
All right, at the risk of sounding like the girl who cried wolf, I am in fact going now. Have yourselves a wonderful evening, all y’all.
Again, *snip*.
“But if you rub it, it turns into a suitcase!”
Nothing will make them acknowledge the damage they do. The only things
lowlife sleazebag scumballspeople like Matthews understand are ratings, perceived power andpotatoescocktail wienies.Disgusting, foul and despicable psychopathic harridans (love that word, thanks) like Morgan are “good television.” They get your blood up, make you want to yell and throw things, and enable raucus dramatic confrontations. So much better than actual sane, reasoned discussion for addle-brained viewers seeking momentary diversions.
The only thing that will get them off the air is if people stop watching them and the shows they are on. Can’t sell the advertising then, you know.
Leslie, my last meal would include a CT lobster roll. They’re that good.
I posted this earlier (by memory) but this is from the actual transcript…
HENRY: But complying with the Geneva Conventions is exactly what the administration said it didn’t need to do as it made its case for broad powers in the war on terror. That’s why it’s a slap at the administration and that’s why they’re also eager to dump this right in Congress’ lap — Lou.
DOBBS: To dump it in Congress’ lap, there is something strange, if I may say, Ed, about a president saying he will conform to a U.S. Supreme Court ruling. Why would that even be necessary to say?
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA.....dt.01.html
Disgusting, foul and despicable psychopathic harridans (love that word, thanks) like Morgan are “good television.” They get your blood up, make you want to yell and throw things, and enable raucus dramatic confrontations. So much better than actual sane, reasoned discussion for addle-brained viewers seeking momentary diversions.
Those wacky Republicans that everyone loves to hate! What crazy, kooky thing will they say next?
DOBBS: To dump it in Congress’ lap, there is something strange, if I may say, Ed, about a president saying he will conform to a U.S. Supreme Court ruling. Why would that even be necessary to say?
Perhaps for the unspoken “…this time.” at the end.
waiting on my ‘nharridans.
And just think — the great hunk of Abramoff stuff — Ney — DeLay’s trial — Jerry Lewis et al. — Coulter’s FL case — and who-knows-what-all in the ME remains to be seen (let alone FITZ).
Oh, they’re in for quite a ride to November.
Jane — the offensiveness of Matthews descent into tolerance for extremism was on full display again tonight, with his panel of O’Beirne spouting her extremist views (”this was just a decision by 5 of the 9 justices — hardly authoritative” paraphrasing), Robinson of the WaPo (who played this like it was funny), Smerconish (an idiot mouth) and Oliphant, the former columist at Boston Globe, who thinks his job is to be polite and fair to everyone even as every principle he believes in is being trashed. Nice guy, but . . . This is typical Matthews — put a couple of otherwise decent moderates up there against two truly extreme radicals.
I usually seek this out, just to see what people are being exposed to, but this was truly offensive. This was the first time I’ve ever turned it off.
American Constitution Society: http://www.acsblog.org/separat.....ework.html
And just think %u2014 the great hunk of Abramoff stuff %u2014 Ney %u2014 DeLay’s trial %u2014 Jerry Lewis et al. %u2014 Coulter’s FL case %u2014 and who-knows-what-all in the ME remains to be seen (let alone FITZ).
Oh, they’re in for quite a ride to November.
Will all of this stuff shake out before November? Especially the additional DeLay indictments?
When Tweety was on Colbert the other night, I was so disappointed because Colbert missed such an opportunity - I mean, he could have played ‘little Timmeh’ with him so easily and wonderfully…
“Admit it, Chris, you’ve got a big MAN CRUSH on George W. - don’t you? Well, either him or Tom Delay…”
“How can you deny it when you said…W has such Sunny Nobility, and he hit a home run with every speech he’s ever made, and everybody wants to go to a barbeque with dumbya and on and on, blah blah blah.” He could have hit him with the ‘democrats are like terrorists’ comments, of course, in his rightwing persona, egging Tweety on like he agrees. He could have given him the quotes and the dates and maybe even shown the video clips - and he could have parodied Meet the Press at the same time.
That’s what I thought Colbert would do with Tweety on his show and he didn’t - Matthews is a treasure trove of parody and “gotcha” opportunities - if he had done something good with the interview, Matthews would STILL be trying to defend himself and wouldn’t have had the nerve to put on a radical b*tch like that gas chamber woman the very next day - Colbert made a big mistake!
Those wacky Republicans that everyone loves to hate! What crazy, kooky thing will they say next?
Shoot Bill Keller!
It’ll be the laff riot of the season!
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Abramoff indictments, rather. Not that there’s that much difference.
Justice Thomas refers to Justice Stevens’ “unfamiliarity with the realities of warfare”; but Stevens served in the U.S. Navy from 1942 to 1945, during World War II. Thomas’s official bio, by contrast, contains no experience of military service.
Not *that* kind of warfare, you silly. The Hugh Hewitt, Jonah Goldberg, Andy Sullivan kind.
Anne: I agree wholeheartedly with your “rant” about the cavernous absence of ideas in all the Right-wing rhetoric.
Reminds me of a passage I saw in Harper’s magazine a while back:
“Lionel Trilling, the literary critic, observed in 1950 that ‘In the United States at this time, liberalism is not only the dominant but even the sole intellectual tradition.’ He went on to say that ‘there are no conservative or reactionary ideas in general circulation,’ merely ‘irritable mental gestures which seek to resemble ideas.’”
Ever since I read this piece, the phrase “irritable mental gestures” automatically comes to mind when I hear the wingers recite their talking points. So sad.
Eureka Springs, AR 73
that was rich
*ilson at 76 -
Thanks for that quote. Sums things up nicely.
Eli, Abramoff’s apparently rattling off names and dates as fast as he can (as a bully whose bluff is called will), so I can well foresee a bunch of new indictments by, oh say, Sept-Oct . . .
OT again, a taste of Cockburn’s swill: Welcome to blogworld. They’re loonies, beyond any sanction or reproof by reality. These people are going to stop a war, change the direction of our politics? They make Barbara Steisand look like Che Guevara.
The other 1200 words are just more of the same.
Eli, Abramoff’s apparently rattling off names and dates as fast as he can (as a bully whose bluff is called will), so I can well foresee a bunch of new indictments by, oh say, Sept-Oct . . .
‘Tis a con-summation devoutly to be wished.
The sad fact is that if they built it (a serious and objective teevee show about the political and policy issues facing the nation) no one would come.
Jane, love that you think Chris is redeemable. He is, of course, but unlike you and I he needs the effective politcal argument.
*ilson 76,
And there you have it.
This evening I was provided an interesting view of America at the hotel “Happy Hour” tonight (out of town working with a client). There is a group of engineers from Europe, Sweden, Germany & Swiss. They were shocked at the attack of the media and I was asked more than once, “I thought this was America, not China”.
They were very shocked at the “tone” of the news and just totally amazed. I told them…I do not watch that crap, it isn’t news, it is entertainment and it stopped being news years ago.
Every once in a while, we all need a view of our country through the eyes of foreigners.
[Moderator comment: have no idea why this got trapped!]
Scarecrow at # 52, TeddySanFran or somebody already said this in an earlier thread, but Keller’s response to all of this ought to be “bring ‘em on.” The Justice Dept. will never bring charges or even investigate any kind of ‘treason’ about the Times’ publication. the defense wouldn’t even have to resort to classified info to blow that house of cards to smithereens. They have no case and they know it, it’s all media smoke.
Imagine W. on the stand, under oath, having to answer exactly how this “revelation” has harmed the war on terra, especially after having just run the video from C & L showing W. talking about this over and over. Ain’t gonna happen, call their bluff I say.
Nothing is quite as disgusting as Tweety interviewing the cute little White House spokesperson whasshername.
SNL should do a parody with cutey wearing nazi garb and explaining breathlessly to Tweety that the leader is only following the law in those nice camps he built in Poland and that the nasty press is being irresponsible in their reporting.
Tweety would, of course- stare at her bazoolas and nod in rapt agreement saying “Yes- well I have to agree with you there!”
everhopeful - So true. Tweety was quite nervous and Colbert really dropped the ball. Then Chris admits he is rooting for Dems this Nov.
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scarecrow - and when you listen or watch this stuff it is horrifying to contemplate how it is taken by people who don’t know and haven’t done the research and the reading that would allow them to come to a conclusion that is based in reality. There are people who take what O’Beirne says as gospel, because she gets the platform on a major network.
I agree with you about Oliphant - here’s a guy who is open-minded enough to concede certain points, but when he attempts to point out the fallacies and falsehoods is given short shrift.
There’s a term for people who say outrageous and offensive things just to get a rise out of people: manipulative, self-indulgent, narcissistic assholes.
When Tweety was on Colbert the other night, I was so disappointed because Colbert missed such an opportunity
True enough but “The Word” was especially vicious.
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Tweety would, of course- stare at her bazoolas and nod in rapt agreement saying “Yes- well I have to agree with you there!”
More like “stare at his flightsuited stuffed crotch”—Matthews is a closeted circus ringmaster–it’s all just a show, and he pants for “tough guys”. and O’Beirne was appalling tonight, as usual.
There are people who take what O’Beirne says as gospel, because she gets the platform on a major network.
“If she was lying, they wouldn’t let her on the TV.”
Seems to me that Oliphant’s concessions are purely manipulative- and often stupid. He’s trying to grease the wheels- but doesn’t know that the track is leading to the “swell president” station no matter what he says.
It’s the Cunningham-Wilkes-Wade ball o’ wax that may end up really alienating the neighborhood-level gooper vote. The idea of rigged DoD contracts producing avalanches of cash into the pockets of Cunningham, Ney, Lewis, et al. — as soldiers and wounded vets go without —
WOW. THAT’s riling VFW huts and Kiwanis luncheons from one end of this place to the other — or will shortly.
I keep wondering about the total silence in the Progressive Blogosphere about what is happening in Gaza and the West Bank…
http://katrinamemo.blogspot.co.....-land.html
It’s the Cunningham-Wilkes-Wade ball o’ wax that may end up really alienating the neighborhood-level gooper vote. The idea of rigged DoD contracts producing avalanches of cash into the pockets of Cunningham, Ney, Lewis, et al. %u2014 as soldiers and wounded vets go without %u2014
I’m hoping that some “safe-seat” Republicans get indicted too late for the party to sub in replacement candidates. That would be too sweet. Um, assuming that there are Democrats in the race, of course…
Dave Neiwert has been doing yeoman’s work on this subject for a long time
Here’s a really interesting piece
Factoid:
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G’night all!
Ed Deevy — we’ve been fretting about it off and on all day here. The Hamdan verdict took over pretty thoroughly, I grant you, but there’s been nothing like “total silence” on Gaza here.
Goopers may be skating on the corruption issue- the dem from Louisiana with the frozen cash saved em. His story is so much simpler to understand than Cunningham and his brave band of gooper crooks.
At this point the score is 25 goopers to 1 dem- so it’s a tie.
Dave Neiwert has been doing yeoman’s work on this subject for a long time
Neiwert deserves some sort of award.
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You probably wouldn’t believe that I’ve been holding back…
lotus, there is another part of the Cunningham-Wilkes-Wade ball o’ wax, how about the 30 plus front companies that Wilkes had registered to a single office suite receiving unsolisitated DoD defense contracts where everyone of the so called employees of those 30 front companies donated their $2000 to the RNC.
Would you call that money laundrying?
The San Diego Tribune has been dogging this story and it gets very little play in the MSM.
THAT means OUR tax money has been funneled through Cunningham from the DoD to the RNC… GRRRRRRR
I have combat experience. I fought off a high tech lynching.
-Clarence Thomas
At this point the score is 25 goopers to 1 dem- so it’s a tie.
Two - there’s Mollohan.
Four if you count Cynthia McKinney hitting a security guard and Harry Reid getting free seats to a fight.
EXACTLY, katymine!
It is easy to fantasize about some trial in which good decimates evil, and in which charlatans are exposed and truth emerges. This all assumes a DoJ that has integrity and a federal court system that adheres without fear to the rule of law and constitutional principles, even in the face of an easily inflamed and fearful public. Do we really want to test how strong the beast has become?
There may have been a time when that scenario was realistic, but 20 years of judicial appointments, political demogoguery and incessant fear mongering have taken a huge toll on our system of justice. Mary is not depressed for nothing.
All this bravado about “bring it on” is as foolish for us as it was for g. Bush. If we’re so confident of the result, don’t volunteer some editor for the test. Find an act of conscience, that in your world would be fully protected by a vigilant court system, but could be characterized as “treasonous” under today’s political rhetoric. Then put your own freedom on the line.
We are not spectators.
I’ve had a busy travel schedule this week, not much time for the blogs or news. Did catch the ruling by the court, so when I finally got home today I turned on Keith for a grin and then saw the teaser for S.Country. “Is B Spears white trash”
Don’t ya love da media.
GSD -
GOL!
I forget, what was the lynchpin to his confirmation?
It is easy to fantasize about some trial in which good decimates evil, and in which charlatans are exposed and truth emerges. This all assumes a DoJ that has integrity and a federal court system that adheres without fear to the rule of law and constitutional principles, even in the face of an easily inflamed and fearful public. Do we really want to test how strong the beast has become?
This is why I cringe when other liberals root for the Republicans to nominate someone like Newt Gingrich for president, bec