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		<title>By: billmon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/27/welfare-queens/#comment-163529</link>
		<dc:creator>billmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oops, bad link. Ahem.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Except, of course, when it’s &lt;a href=&quot;http://billmon.org/archives/002493.html&quot;&gt;them.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, bad link. Ahem.</p>
<p>Except, of course, when it’s <a href="http://billmon.org/archives/002493.html">them.</a></p>
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		<title>By: billmon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/27/welfare-queens/#comment-163528</link>
		<dc:creator>billmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“right-wing talk show host Chris Baker . . . stormed off after refusing to answer a simple question %u2014 did he think the government should determine what the media reports?  It’s obvious he does, as does the NRO.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Except, of course, when it’s &lt;a href=&quot;http://billmon.org/archives/002475.html&quot;&gt;them.&lt;/a&gt; IOKIYAR, etc.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“right-wing talk show host Chris Baker . . . stormed off after refusing to answer a simple question %u2014 did he think the government should determine what the media reports?  It’s obvious he does, as does the NRO.”</p>
<p>Except, of course, when it’s <a href="http://billmon.org/archives/002475.html">them.</a> IOKIYAR, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: DRST</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/27/welfare-queens/#comment-163412</link>
		<dc:creator>DRST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I’d never suggest that the Wingnut Welfare brigade should be denied the right to cover what is going on with the administration. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It seems to me there’s a connection between this and the position of people like Jim Dobson. Religious organizations and leaders have always been a major force in American life, and religion has always been a factor in politics. For most of our history, it was understood that religious leaders would contribute to the discussion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What seems to have changed now is that a small group of people is claiming that they are being shut out and simultaneously demanding that they be the *only* voice in the discussion and shut out everyone else in reparation. BushCo demands that no other voices be heard but theirs, and the traditional media have fallen mostly into line with that. The religious groups on the far right allow for no compromises, even with other religious groups.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d dearly love to be able to ask one of these people advocating for a “Christian nation” which version of Christianity they want to use and why.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’d never suggest that the Wingnut Welfare brigade should be denied the right to cover what is going on with the administration. </i></p>
<p>It seems to me there’s a connection between this and the position of people like Jim Dobson. Religious organizations and leaders have always been a major force in American life, and religion has always been a factor in politics. For most of our history, it was understood that religious leaders would contribute to the discussion.</p>
<p>What seems to have changed now is that a small group of people is claiming that they are being shut out and simultaneously demanding that they be the *only* voice in the discussion and shut out everyone else in reparation. BushCo demands that no other voices be heard but theirs, and the traditional media have fallen mostly into line with that. The religious groups on the far right allow for no compromises, even with other religious groups.</p>
<p>I’d dearly love to be able to ask one of these people advocating for a “Christian nation” which version of Christianity they want to use and why.</p>
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		<title>By: Paige</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/27/welfare-queens/#comment-163190</link>
		<dc:creator>Paige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 07:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bush, the GOP and Fox News will have people believe that the terrorists knew nothing about the banking tracking system before the NY Times/Wall Street Journal published something about it….but, let’s see who was the first to officially and publically notify the terrorists:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT OF GEORGE BUSH AND HIS TREASURY SECRETARY AT THE TIME DISCLOSING *THEMSELVES* THEIR “FOREIGN TERRORIST ASSET TRACKING CENTER” TO THE ENTIRE WORLD (including the Terrorists) almost 5 years before the New York Times (and Wall Street Journal): &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SEPTEMBER 24, 2001 White House Lawn&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush opens with:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;THE PRESIDENT:  “Good morning.  At 12:01 a.m. this morning, a major thrust of our war on terrorism began with the stroke of a pen.  Today, we have launched a strike on the financial foundation of the global terror network.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  “I’ve signed an executive order that immediately freezes United States financial assets of and prohibits United States transactions with 27 different entities.  They include terrorist organizations, individual terrorist leaders, a corporation that serves as a front for terrorism, and several nonprofit organizations.”&lt;br /&gt;
     “Just to show you how insidious these terrorists are, they oftentimes use nice-sounding, non-governmental organizations as fronts for their activities.  We have targeted three such NGOs.  We intend to deal with them, just like we intend to deal with  others who aid and abet terrorist organizations.  This executive order means that United States banks that have assets of these groups or individuals must freeze their accounts.  And United States citizens or businesses are prohibited from doing business with them.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“We have developed the international financial equivalent of law enforcement’s “Most Wanted” list.  And it puts the financial world on notice.  If you do business with terrorists, if you support or sponsor them, you will not do business with the United States of America. I want to assure the world that we will exercise this power responsibly.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, by the way, this list is just a beginning.  We will continue to add more names to the list.  We will freeze the assets of others as we find that they aid and abet terrorist organizations around the world.  We’ve established a foreign terrorist asset tracking center at the Department of the Treasury to identify and investigate the financial infrastructure of the international terrorist networks. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FULL TRANSCRIPT AND VIDEO:&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010924-4.html&quot;&gt;http://www.whitehouse.gov/news.....924-4.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush, the GOP and Fox News will have people believe that the terrorists knew nothing about the banking tracking system before the NY Times/Wall Street Journal published something about it….but, let’s see who was the first to officially and publically notify the terrorists:</p>
<p>OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT OF GEORGE BUSH AND HIS TREASURY SECRETARY AT THE TIME DISCLOSING *THEMSELVES* THEIR “FOREIGN TERRORIST ASSET TRACKING CENTER” TO THE ENTIRE WORLD (including the Terrorists) almost 5 years before the New York Times (and Wall Street Journal): </p>
<p>SEPTEMBER 24, 2001 White House Lawn</p>
<p>Bush opens with:</p>
<p>THE PRESIDENT:  “Good morning.  At 12:01 a.m. this morning, a major thrust of our war on terrorism began with the stroke of a pen.  Today, we have launched a strike on the financial foundation of the global terror network.”</p>
<p>and:</p>
<p>  “I’ve signed an executive order that immediately freezes United States financial assets of and prohibits United States transactions with 27 different entities.  They include terrorist organizations, individual terrorist leaders, a corporation that serves as a front for terrorism, and several nonprofit organizations.”<br />
     “Just to show you how insidious these terrorists are, they oftentimes use nice-sounding, non-governmental organizations as fronts for their activities.  We have targeted three such NGOs.  We intend to deal with them, just like we intend to deal with  others who aid and abet terrorist organizations.  This executive order means that United States banks that have assets of these groups or individuals must freeze their accounts.  And United States citizens or businesses are prohibited from doing business with them.” </p>
<p>and:</p>
<p>“We have developed the international financial equivalent of law enforcement’s “Most Wanted” list.  And it puts the financial world on notice.  If you do business with terrorists, if you support or sponsor them, you will not do business with the United States of America. I want to assure the world that we will exercise this power responsibly.”</p>
<p>and:</p>
<p>And, by the way, this list is just a beginning.  We will continue to add more names to the list.  We will freeze the assets of others as we find that they aid and abet terrorist organizations around the world.  We’ve established a foreign terrorist asset tracking center at the Department of the Treasury to identify and investigate the financial infrastructure of the international terrorist networks. </p>
<p>FULL TRANSCRIPT AND VIDEO:<br />
  <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010924-4.html">http://www.whitehouse.gov/news&#8230;..924-4.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lord Jeopardy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/27/welfare-queens/#comment-163149</link>
		<dc:creator>Lord Jeopardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 06:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If / when FGL gets no spin zone / ( fair &amp; balanced ) air time every month you know your on the right track.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If / when FDL gets 1000K readers per day you will have a serious impact — keep trying.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then FDL can expect the threat of treason / national security charges from our elected officials.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If that doesn’t shut you up, maybe a costly leak source investigation will teach you a lesson.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After all the terrorist’s are dumb and would not think we would data mine phone calls or have GPS phones or track bank account activities or … or ….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What is going on is so simple and basic, but government educated masses plus high school sports  (school colors / patriotism ) makes it pretty easy, go team USA.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If / when FGL gets no spin zone / ( fair &amp; balanced ) air time every month you know your on the right track.</p>
<p>If / when FDL gets 1000K readers per day you will have a serious impact — keep trying.</p>
<p>Then FDL can expect the threat of treason / national security charges from our elected officials.</p>
<p>If that doesn’t shut you up, maybe a costly leak source investigation will teach you a lesson.  </p>
<p>After all the terrorist’s are dumb and would not think we would data mine phone calls or have GPS phones or track bank account activities or … or ….</p>
<p>What is going on is so simple and basic, but government educated masses plus high school sports  (school colors / patriotism ) makes it pretty easy, go team USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gannon&#8217;s Pimp</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/27/welfare-queens/#comment-162851</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gannon&#8217;s Pimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Where were all of these outcries about “National Security” leaks and the traitorous media when Clinton was in office?  It’s apparently A-OK for the Executive Branch to shit on the Constiution as long as a (literal) right-minded man holds the office.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would venture to guess they’ll go back to their old “anti-liberal” vitriol once a Democrat again takes office to clean the messes the Repuppetcans always make.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where were all of these outcries about “National Security” leaks and the traitorous media when Clinton was in office?  It’s apparently A-OK for the Executive Branch to shit on the Constiution as long as a (literal) right-minded man holds the office.</p>
<p>I would venture to guess they’ll go back to their old “anti-liberal” vitriol once a Democrat again takes office to clean the messes the Repuppetcans always make.</p>
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		<title>By: Wretched Refuse</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/27/welfare-queens/#comment-162795</link>
		<dc:creator>Wretched Refuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 02:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Constitution?, Constitution?, We don’t need no stinkin Constitution.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Constitution?, Constitution?, We don’t need no stinkin Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/27/welfare-queens/#comment-162721</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Do these foolish-looking twits ever do any research before venting their rage before TV cameras?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. (from a comment on thinkprogress.org)  BUSH ALREADY BLEW THE COVER OF THE BANKING ACTIVITY.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;George W. Bush&lt;br /&gt;
Hershey Lodge and Convention Center&lt;br /&gt;
Hershey, Pennsylvania&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WhiteHouse.gov&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/&quot;&gt;http://www.whitehouse.gov/&lt;/a&gt; news/ releases/ 2004/ 04/ 20040419-4.html&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Before September the 11th, law enforcement could more easily obtain business and financial records of white-collar criminals than of suspected terrorists. See, part of the way to make sure that we catch terrorists is we chase money trails. And yet it was easier to chase a money trail with a white-collar criminal than it was a terrorist. The Patriot Act ended this double standard and it made it easier for investigators to catch suspected terrorists by following paper trails here in America. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Looks like Bush is the guy who let the cat outta the bag on this one. Let’s start the investigation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;AND&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. From a document issued by the Department of the Treasury, with a forward by Treasury Secretary John W. Snow, dated April 22, 2006, Page 4 (link below)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Working shoulder-to-shoulder with dedicated public servants in the U.S. Government, our allies ab road and our partners in the private sector. Treasure follows the terrorists’ money trails aggressively, exploits them for intelligence, and severs links where we can. Our collaborative efforts have al Quida and other terrorist groups feeling financial pressure and grasping for new channels through which to move money.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ustreas.gov/press/releases/reports/tfi_factsheet.pdf&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do these foolish-looking twits ever do any research before venting their rage before TV cameras?</p>
<p>1. (from a comment on thinkprogress.org)  BUSH ALREADY BLEW THE COVER OF THE BANKING ACTIVITY.</p>
<p>George W. Bush<br />
Hershey Lodge and Convention Center<br />
Hershey, Pennsylvania</p>
<p>WhiteHouse.gov</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/">http://www.whitehouse.gov/</a> news/ releases/ 2004/ 04/ 20040419-4.html</p>
<p>Before September the 11th, law enforcement could more easily obtain business and financial records of white-collar criminals than of suspected terrorists. See, part of the way to make sure that we catch terrorists is we chase money trails. And yet it was easier to chase a money trail with a white-collar criminal than it was a terrorist. The Patriot Act ended this double standard and it made it easier for investigators to catch suspected terrorists by following paper trails here in America. </p>
<p>Looks like Bush is the guy who let the cat outta the bag on this one. Let’s start the investigation.</p>
<p>AND</p>
<p>2. From a document issued by the Department of the Treasury, with a forward by Treasury Secretary John W. Snow, dated April 22, 2006, Page 4 (link below)</p>
<p>Working shoulder-to-shoulder with dedicated public servants in the U.S. Government, our allies ab road and our partners in the private sector. Treasure follows the terrorists’ money trails aggressively, exploits them for intelligence, and severs links where we can. Our collaborative efforts have al Quida and other terrorist groups feeling financial pressure and grasping for new channels through which to move money.</p>
<p>ustreas.gov/press/releases/reports/tfi_factsheet.pdf</p>
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		<title>By: montag</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/27/welfare-queens/#comment-162698</link>
		<dc:creator>montag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Odd that one heard no criticism of the press from the nattering nabobs when the press was piling on every leak from Judge Starr’s commission, or when the press–particularly the NY Times–was editorializing for sending out the torches and pitchforks against Clinton’s presidency.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nor did they complain when the press–particularly the NY Times–saw fit to publish administration leaks from unreliable sources (Miller’s Curveball, anyone?) which supported Bush’s case for war, and when the NY Times editorialized in favor of war based on that reporting. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From that alone, the bias at the core of their complaints is obvious. What I haven’t figured out yet is whether they are someone else’s useful idiots (and if so, whose), or that they are just idiots.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd that one heard no criticism of the press from the nattering nabobs when the press was piling on every leak from Judge Starr’s commission, or when the press–particularly the NY Times–was editorializing for sending out the torches and pitchforks against Clinton’s presidency.</p>
<p>Nor did they complain when the press–particularly the NY Times–saw fit to publish administration leaks from unreliable sources (Miller’s Curveball, anyone?) which supported Bush’s case for war, and when the NY Times editorialized in favor of war based on that reporting. </p>
<p>From that alone, the bias at the core of their complaints is obvious. What I haven’t figured out yet is whether they are someone else’s useful idiots (and if so, whose), or that they are just idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/27/welfare-queens/#comment-162677</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don’t forget the NATIONAL BOYCOTT/STRIKE!&lt;a href=&quot;http://dulyconsider.blogspot.com/2006/06/voting-delegitimized-call-for-national.html&quot;&gt;click here &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://dulyconsider.blogspot.com/2006/06/voting-delegitimized-call-for-national.html&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t forget the NATIONAL BOYCOTT/STRIKE!<a href="http://dulyconsider.blogspot.com/2006/06/voting-delegitimized-call-for-national.html">click here </a><br />
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