
We had a fabulous coffee this morning with the Indianapolis set -- Fini Finito (who runs the Roots MySpace page), poputonian (who has an excellent post up at Digby's), Twisted Martini and our very own *ilson, scourge o' the trolls. We met at the Abby downtown which was blissfully Wi-Fi'd and had much fun at Rush Limpbaugh's expense (all were cheering Christy's morning post , who dissects the situation like no other).
Tonight we're headed for Pittsburgh and we'll be at Drinking Liberally at 8:00 (traffic cooperating). We'll be at:
D's Dogs and Six-Packs
1118 South Braddock Ave
(Regent Square neighborhood)
Pittsburgh PA 15218
Phone 412-241-4666
If you're in the area please come down and join us, we've been having an awfully good time on the trip meeting up with folks along the way so don't be shy, the dogs are friendly and contrary to popular legend I don't bite either.
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Hello Jane!
I just have a quick minute before I have to run off and pick up my son at work. Are you doing okay? Go Ned!
Oi. I’ll have one here in y’alls honor.
Safe travels, O Lambish One.
Anybody home?
Hey OFG! Hope you’re well.
I couldn’t be any better if I was twins.
goodness … the picture of Jane and the pups crossing the country with wifi, friends for coffee and some great campaigning in CT … really warms my heart!
You’re so happy you’re beside yourself!
Please say hi to the ‘Burgh for me. Family’s from there. You’ll have a great time!
For any locals reading some of us will be there at 7pm (our normal start time) so if you’re in the neighborhood stop in.
See you soon, Jane!
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The flag burning amendment was not adopted!
66 in favor, 34 opposed - just a one vote margin.
We here in Connecticut are waiting!
OFG!
Jane, it sounds like a wonderful trip, filling you up with admiration and love! We on Your Own Coast are envious of the Eastern Lambs you grace with your presence.
And on to Connecticut! Lucky them, an entire month of poodles and Jane. Poor Joe.
Poor Hillary! What’ll she have to campaign on?
Oh wait, there’s always censoring video games instead of dealing with real life. Never mind.
Who are The Flag-Desecrating Thirty-Four?
Thanks are certainly in order for preserving the Constitutional process from this craziness.
Hi Jane! Have a grand time tonight!
Freshly EPU’d:
Remember that story I linked to a couple of days ago about the desert-busted Humvees, etc., coming home for rehab?
CBS says that that item alone is going to cost $18B - that’s $18 BILLION - A YEAR - “for as long as the war lasts, and far beyond.”
Jane,
In think it is wonderful that you are meeting with the FDL pups along the way.
Could this be a trend… circulating FDL pups doing meetups across america! I like the concept… and some blogging at the same time. What a concept!
I suspect there are many who want to meet and this might be the catalyst for some serious activism… ya know getting up from the keyboard… and talking… and then???
I am sure that these face to face meetings can be very productive and lots of fun as well.
You are doing a great thing as the founder of FDL with this road trip to Ned.
Thanks!
Enjoyed visiting you in Tulsa. Hopefully someday you’ll have the chance to visit OKC and see what we’ve done here.
Drinking Liberally — mmmmmm . . .
Iron City Beer — well, there are other brewskis in Pittsburgh . . .
Maybe they can re-write the Amendment more narrowly to make it more appealing. Y’know, outlawing flag burning ONLY gay marriage ceremonies.
‘eh?
or outlawing gay married flags.
DefJef,
Sounds like a blast! In the near future I’ll be better situated to be way more active than I am now. Sorta focusing on my block for the midterms.
Yes it was a good time this morning, and worth the ticket I got for an expired license in order to meet the head FireDog. And the others too! Nice to know that there are more and more people out there who are fed up and ready for change. Have a blast in Pittsbugh tonight, and have a twisted martini for me!
It needs the term “flaming” in their somewhere for fundie approval.
Or outlawing flag burning ONLY at gay Mormon weddings in Utah, to appease Orrin? Terrible problem, y’know.
Hmmm, OFG 22 … are you about to favor us with a major announcement?
lotus 3:46 p.m.
I wonder if it would be cheaper to build a Humvee factory in Kuwait. Of course, that would require a desire by the DoD to be prudent in its expenditures.
Jane –
Have a safe and happy drive! Imagine me standing along the road with a big sign saying “Go Jane! Go FDL!”
And please convey greetings and hugs to FDL’ers you meet along the way (keeping a hug for yourself and the doggies, of course). Though I wish I could be along with y’all in more than the spiritual sense, still I’m looking forward to the day when we will connect in person.
Oh! And a big hello to Western PA and Pittsburgh in particular. Ancestors of mine called the region home — one in particular, a minister, arrived shortly after the Revolution, when Western PA was called “the far western frontier” and “the wilds” and it was the place where Scots-Irish were mixing it up with the Natives (some married the natives, while others battled them). It’s a beautiful and historic region.
Vaya con Dios!
Not a chance, neurophius. Not a flamin’ chance in hell.
lotus,
no, I’ve suffered huge financial setbacks and have taken a vow of poverty, living on beans and water gravy. Feb ‘07 I’ll be 100 percent debt free. Sorta give a fella options, right.
Gotta go. bbl.
OFG –
If your equipment hauling duties take you through Denver, I’m a mile south of I-70, and two blocks off I-25.
Now this a response…FINALLY…this is how we have to respond to the Miss PIggy Rover tactics……
from Kos about Webbs response to DUMBO Allen TRYING to swiftboat him.
———————————————–The campaign of U.S. Senate candidate Jim Webb today called the attacks on Webb’s patriotism by Allen’s campaign, “weak-kneed attacks by cowards” and demanded that Allen and his campaign apologize.
“George Felix Allen Jr. and his bush-league lapdog, Dick Wadhams, have not earned the right to challenge Jim Webb’s position on free speech and flag burning. Jim Webb served and fought for our flag and what it stands for, while George Felix Allen Jr. chose to cut and run. When he and his disrespectful campaign puppets attack Jim Webb they are attacking every man and woman who served. Their comments are nothing more than weak-kneed attacks by cowards. George Felix Allen Jr. needs to apologize to Jim Webb and to all men and women who have served our nation,” Webb spokesman Steve Jarding said.
On Tuesday, George Felix Allen Jr. and his campaign issued a press release in which the Allen campaign, through Wadhams, implied that Webb’s position in support of the Free Speech Amendment to the U.S. Constitution amounted to a political act and not a defense of our Constitution, which Webb fought for and for which he was highly decorated. George Felix Allen Jr. did not serve.
“I believe it is precisely because of bush-league attacks like this that John Zogby, a highly respected, independent polling expert just this week said that Dick Wadhams is not fit to serve as a campaign manager and that George Allen should find a new manager,” Jarding said.
“While Jim Webb and others of George Felix Allen Jr.’s generation were fighting for our freedoms and for our symbols of freedom in Vietnam, George Felix Allen Jr. was playing cowboy at a dude ranch in Nevada. People who live in glass dude ranches should not question the patriotism of real soldiers who fought and bled for this country on a real battlefield,” Jarding said.
“Is Dick Wadhams willing to publicly say that Colin Powell, John Glenn and Bob Kerrey are unpatriotic for having the same position on the flag burning amendment that Jim Webb has? Ask him,” Jarding said.
I took some pictures this morning:
http://home.indy.net/~ctto/JaneH014.jpg
http://home.indy.net/~ctto/JaneH028.jpg
http://home.indy.net/~ctto/JaneH030.jpg
I think I just heard some woman on Lou Dobbs say Lamont is going to beat Lieberman in Connecticut. Didn’t catch her name. Did anyone else hear that?
A prior post indicated only Kobe lived for going in the car. How are Katie and Lucy handling all of this excitement?
neurophius 34,
That was Laura Flanders from Air America Radio.
neuro#34 that was Laura Flanders who has a gret show on Sat and Sun on AAR!
And in a surprise ending to the new smash hit movie “Poodles Across America”, Joe Lieberman is pelted with pumpkin loaves by protesters and is suddenly ravaged by a trio of left wing Standard poodles!
OT - the flag burning amendment failed by 1 vote. sorry if this was posted before
Tweety is talking about the Bush administration’s illegal spying on private bank records without a warrant program. He sounds like he might take the media’s side of the argument on this. We’ll see.
D’s Dogs and Six-Packs
for some reason that reminds me of the laundry/beer joint in San Francisco called The Brain Wash Cafe and Laundromat
Bustedknuckles:
Did Lieberman narrowly escathe injury?
Here’s how to repel a Swiftboat attack, courtesy of Supreme Master Kos Who Reports Only to Kobe:
http://www.webbforsenate.com/p......php?id=57
No prisoners!
not about to tender a soccer spoiler, but there was a World Cup match this afternoon between Gaul and Iberia, and one team won. just saying.
Jane
it sounds like you are having a great time. I admire the way you are channeling your enery right now. This is not only a positive healing thing you are doing for yourself, it leads the way for all of us.
You have certainly given me a model to use the next time adversity comes my way.
You are also reinjecting some of the “oh my gosh real people in the flesh” excitement of YearlyKos back into the Firedoglake experience.
Many are mentally taking the drive along with you, just as we mentally conventioneered with you. It is generous of you to include us in your activities.
You are a class act, lady.
oodles of poodles
billmon — When Worlds Collide
http://billmon.org/archives/002488.html
An asteroid possibly as large as a half-mile or more in diameter is rapidly approaching the Earth and will make an exceptionally close approach to our planet on July 3, passing just beyond the moon’s orbit.
Skywatchers with good telescopes and some experience just might be able to get a glimpse of this cosmic rock as it streaks rapidly past our planet in the wee hours of the morning.
Clem Snopes, NASA public affairs spokesman and a part-time student at Pat Robertson’s Regent University, urged Americans not to panic, saying there is little risk of a collision, given the flatness of the earth’s surface.
However, Snopes also urged asteroid spectators not to stray too close to the horizon in their quest for a sighting, as Republican Party science advisors have determined there is a significant risk they will stumble off the edge of the world and fall straight into the fiery pits of hell.
To help prevent such a disaster, President Bush has mobilized National Guard units from all 50 states to string plush velvet theater ropes around the entire surface of the planet, Snopes added.
This appears to be the vote on the
Constitutionflag desecration amendment. It appears to be a vote to amend the thing out of existence, which failed 36-64:http://www.senate.gov/legislat.....vote=00188
A yea vote is a vote against passing a flag desecration amendment.
Frnaco at 33
Do you suppose the George FELIX Allen use of his name by Webb, is kinda like us rembering that Libby’s name is Irving?
Just wonderin’
O/T for a good laugh:
Falwell on the “moral pervert[s]” in Hollywood: “[Y]ou almost got to be a homosexual to be recognized in the entertainment industry anymore”
Criticizing what he deemed the immorality of Hollywood during his June 25 televised sermon, Jerry Falwell, founder and chairman of the Moral Majority Coalition, declared, “You know, you almost got to be a homosexual to be recognized in the entertainment industry anymore.” Falwell also described “[m]ovie stars” as “moral pervert[s]” for “having babies” out of wedlock.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200606270003
I don’t suppose another stop in Las Vegas en route could possibly be on the itinerary? I missed you at YK (had a prior commitment in L. A. that weekend, tho I did catch the CSPAN replay).
In any case, safe journey.
42 - Joe may be relatively resistant to muffin-induced brain injury, as he seems to been have operating with minimal cortical activity for some time.
Barring direct pontine-pumpkin pastry projectile events. Joenertia should have come through the loaf lobbing alive.
No tellin’ what the poodles may do.
lhp 46, you put that so precisely perfectly, I have to catch my breath.
Robust thanks for the pix, *ilson! A traveling cutie show, they are! But we’d love to see the rest of yez too. Got any more?
And I’m reminded to ask: Does anybody have a clue why, when I click on a link in a comment and return, sometimes I get right back to the comment with the link, and sometimes I get back to only the last spot in the thread where I last refreshed the browser? A puzzle.
al-Scooter at 4:05 p.m.
Jim Webb is superbly qualified to defend himself against chickenhawk George Allen’s chickenshit attempted smear. Webb, the highly decorated military hero, is going on the ATTAAAAAAACK!
about the dog behavior: the Poodles were amazingly well behaved and oh-so-fluffy soft! Jane was effervescent …
If as is supposedly accepted by the pundits, journalists, talking heads, the politicians of both parties, and so on, that the elections this fall and in 2008 will be decided on the “merits” of the Iraq war, why then are not the Democrats hanging this horrible Iraq mess around the neck of President Bush. This should be THE issue. I would think that those who want to defeat the Republicans would want to pound and hammer into the electorate that Iraq is Bush’s war, and this idiot has no prescription for a successful conclusion. Make this the “Bush War” as was done with LBJ over the likewise futile Vietnam War. And we all know what happened to Johnson. Why the Democrats don’t put the yoke of Iraq around Bush is a real head scratcher to me. What are the Democrats afraid of?
Delurking here. I’m going to Memphis next week and was hoping someone could recommend a good place for real Southern food and maybe some of that mile high pie that CHS mentioned the other day. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I own a restaurant and have to run back to work.
Also many thanks to all who post and comment here. This is such a great blog. I just wish my schedule allowed me to comment more often.
Thanks again,
Qing Qing
Felix sounds suspiciously French, if you ask me …
Oops, missed Franco’s earlier post.
*slaps forehead*
hmmm, well then what about Felix navidad?
punaise - brainwash on folsom and langton was a lot of fun when it opened, can you remember the name of the wonderful eatery across the street?
the group fotos came out poorly … I didnt bring my good flash unit and we were indoors at a coffeehouse…I also dont want to publish peoples pixes without prior permission…
recycled from the depths of last night: the real battle will be over flag dessication.
punaise 64 -
i’ll give up my silica gel when they pry my withered dry fingers off the bag…
Eureka Springs, I’m drawing a blank on the name of that one.
the group fotos came out poorly . . .
That’s more polite than saying that Kobe smashed the camera, and threatened *ilson where it really hurts if he revealed Blog Lord Kobe’s true identity.
kirk murphy - if this issue had arisen during the Watergate era it could have gone straight to Judge Silica.
lotus 54,
It is because the comments when you follow a link here are sent along with the entire page, but when you hit the Refresh Comments button, the new comments are dynamically requested on top of the page. So when you hit back, you load the page as it was originally requested.
al-scooter….no problem
LHP…..I think he was making “FUN” of the Felix middle name, in other words….Felix=PUTZ….LMAO
This kind of smack down should be the NORM not the “once in a while” GOOD mistake….
Qing Qing, I haven’t been through Memphis in a long time, but Corky’s Barbecue is certainly a local institution. I’m sure they must have a website.
On Tweety, the Democratic congressman debating Peter King is doing a pretty good job. King is crying “9/11.”
lotus - right click on a link and open in new tab or window to avoid wordpressin’ confusion.
wasn’t Judge Silica the one who tossed the wet blanket on the plumbers?
Your talking about 3 standard Poodles going on the attack got me thinking. You know, the only redeeming quality I can assign to Bush is that he does show compassion and love toward his dogs. That, honestly, is a major plus. So, I wonder if Joe has a dog. It is when folks don’t that I begin to question how decent they are. Now, that doesn’t go for those who are allergic, don’t have the ability to have a dog where they live, etc.
With two young kids, I’d think Ned probably does have a dog. If so, Jane will have to do a meetup with her trio.
I have issued a directive for emergency legislation making it illegal for cable news pundits to start sentences using the word “look” or “listen”.
Joe Lieberman is a decent guy, but he’s out of touch and his time has passed.
Peter King better watchout….there are SOOOooo many skeletens in that closet, that the Times could easily dig-up……I remember when I was in college in NY in the early eighties he was almost indicted for some treasonous stuff….I have to call my friend in upstate NY who knows all of Kings dirt!
schoolpsyc -
maybe it’s not too late to teach an old doc new tricks -
could Bush teach Billy Frist how to love his cats (without dissecting them?)
Thanks, DB — not sure I quite followed that, but thanks.
Look, Everythingseemssoneat, pundits can take care of themselves without your meddling. Listen, if you don’t like it, talk to TRex.
looseheadprop:
May we please have an update on your health situation?
I apologize if you have had to do this before, but I haven’t seen it if you have.
I hope you’re getting better.
Right click is the magic, eh, Eureka? Can’t wait to try that next time. Thanks.
*ilson,
lgf is claiming the last picture is of you after Jane waved her koswand over you three times and chanted “six-six-six.” Is that true? Where are the pics of the rabid, venomous sheep she’s bringing to Connecticut in the trunk?
*ilson, where are your pictures? I haven’t seen them.
“I have issued a directive for emergency legislation making it illegal for cable news pundits to start sentences using the word “look” or “listen”.”
Can you add “The American people need to understand” to that list? ; )
Everythingseemsoneat at 4:21 pm - eerrrrrggghhhhh, that is one of my pet peeves. Thanks very much for your consideration.
*ilson, so is there some sort of Lamb-Duh group you should tell us about?
Coz #86: Passed by acclimation!
S.J Res. 12: For the Protection of the Flag
Defeated 34-66
Voting against the amendment: Republicans with **
Akaka (D-HI)
Bennett (R-UT)**
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)**
Clinton (D-NY)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
McConnell (R-KY)** Color me shocked.
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Wyden (D-OR)
Democrats who voted for the amendment:
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Dayton (D-MN)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Stabenow (D-MI)
pundits need to stop “look” and “listen?”
Oh, Kirk, don’t get me started on Frist. Thank goodness not all surgeons are like him. He is just downright scary. All I know is my hubby, who is a pharmacist, told me the main reason he could not go to medical school. It was all the dissection of animals that was required. He used to boast to me about how he would secretly let out frogs from the lab rooms, and how he populated various lakes with them instead.
punaise #88: Log Cabin Republicans?
pix at comment #34
al-Scooter #93 - not rabid enough
“Can the President ignore the law?” Preview of Countdown for tonight.
*ilson #94: Pic #3 - Dog Is My Co-Pilot?
schoolpsyc -
good for your hubby - he sounds like a real sweetie.
somewhere in hundreds of puddles, thousands of tadpoles bubble praises in honor of the man who saved their [great-great]n=10 progenifrog.
and i do agree that not all surgeons are like him - most i’ve met are decent and ethical people.
punaise: Erik Satie in 1913 wrote 3 brief piano pieces entitled: Embryons desseches
Cujo359 #49
The roll call vote on the Hatch Amendment is 189. Roll call vote 188 was on the Durbin Amendment to provide a complete substitute. It was defeated 64-36.
oh dear -
trying to imply the decent and ethical surgeons are unlike Sen. ViviFristor
(and not suggesting the good and ethical surgeons are unlike your good spouse)
sorry about that, schoolpsyc
*ilson46201 @ 4:31 pm (#94) - I’m going to guess that JaneH030.jpg is Kobe, and JaneH028.jpg is Katie and Lucy?
I think 30 is Lucy (Baby Dog) and 28 is Katie and Kobe … the legs are Jane’s (hubba, hubba)
Effervescent? Yes. Charismatic? Yes. Smart? We already knew that. Nice looking? Uh huh.
And that’s just Kobe! You should see Jane. Whew boy!
Anyone within a hundred miles of Pittsburgh, I’d advise you to get in your car now.
Please come to philly. I want to be a groupie instead of a secret admirer. More fun!
ck says:
June 27th, 2006 at 4:08 pm
More from Space.com about 2004 XP14’s close approach on July 3: http://www.space.com/scienceas.....close.html
Pittsburgh is a great city, overlooked by a lot of people as a destination.
*ilson: I do like Satie’s work.
Franco, 33:
heh, heh.
1. “Cowards”….good on Webb! More are joining my lead. And….
2. Just last night on Scarborough, he had a debate between 2 guys. One, a R teamer, and the other, some guy from Air America Radio…Trapatino?..Palipino?…hell. Some guy with an Italian last name. Anyways, the Italian guy specifically called out Rove, calling him, Cheney, et al: “War Sissies”. That’s right, war sissies!
These are the ways you handle draft dodging Karl The Coward Rove. Yes! A few of you get squeemish at my tactics. Understandable. Just turn your head, and look away. As I said several weeks ago, it’s time to get the long knives out…and I bring the A team. Are you hearing us yet, draft dodging Karl The Coward Rove??? heh heh
All for now. I return you to your regular programming.
Ghostman
Israelis attacking the major electrical power plant of Gaza — how civilized! real harbingers of Democracy!
Hugh @ 4:36 pm (#100) The votes were very similar. That’s why I guessed as I did. Looks like a couple of Democrats defected on the final vote (189), Reid and Salazar.
Ghostman….that guy on SCAB-borough was Mike Papantonio, he does a program on the weekends with Kennedy…He is fierce…a great guy for the progressives……
Miss PIggy Rover coward extraordinaire will get his someday!
Qing Qing - I would have to point you over to west memphis for my favorite bbq. For a simple breakfast The Arcade http://www.roadfood.com/Review.....RefID=51is a classic elvis time warp.
With Reid of Nevada voting for the Flag Amendment and McConnell of Kentucky voting against it, there seems to be a story within a story surrounding this vote.
Thread overshoot sector:
Regarding the wingnet welfare post, here’s a poll at C-SPAN that could use some yesses:
Right now Yes is only at 47 percent.
Need clarification on flag burning amendment vote please. Cujo’s link at 49 says my Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) voted Nay. Hugh’s list at 90 says he voted Yea. Which is it? (I wouldn’t be surpirsed if he voted Yea with Biden and Bayh, but I was so hoping that with him now 30 points ahead of Katherine Harris he would actually step up and be Democrat on this one.)
If anyone has confirmation, please post it. Thanks much.
*ilson - thanks for the photos. I was checking those out and watching Hardball at the sametime, and at first quick glance, I thought, “OMG, Jane’s transporting lambs across state lines!” But no . . . poodles. Or are these attack lambs in disguise? Very clever.
Happy trails, Jane, and please detour through Boston.
*ilson46201 at 59: Sen. Allen’s mother is French. Really.
(Guess we won’t be hearing any wingnut “he looks French” in that campaign, at least…)
Why did any Democrats think there was an upside to the “Let’s Burn the Constitution” amendment?
I understand why some in deep red states might have weak knees, but this is such a no brainer . . .
That IDIOT Bill Nelson also my senator voted YAH….he better get with the program…he is afraid of the COWARD Miss Piggy Rover….plain and simple….As you know Florida is changing become more progressive even in the center of the state(orlando area)..
Franco, 112: ok, Papantonio. I’ve not heard of him, but after watching him, I sure do agree with your assessment. Hell of a good fighter. Mr. “P” knows how to fight. And I like that. “War sissies”….and on national cable TV…gotta love it!
Ghostman
I think Comedy Central could be fun tonight. Helen Thomas is on with Jon Stewart, and then Tweety is on with Colbert.
HT to Markos for this good news on Lieberman’s efforts:
Yesireee, buh-bye Joe
prostratedragon @ 4:48 pm (#115) - For those using Javascript blocking, you need to allow pollmonkey.com to run Javascript. Otherwise, you won’t even see the poll.
Murtha missquote misssmear mangles memebots:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/27/murtha-quote/
I don’t want to catch you kids doing something like this…. ever. Live by the gothch, die by the gotcha
(guess belongs under previous post)
I hope Colbert rheams one on Tweety.
Tweety was not kind to Colbert after the WH Corres. weenie dinner….I am sure Colbert will take it to him…
CAn’t wait.
I sooo want glasses just like Jane …. just sayin’
schoolpsyc at 4:52 p.m.
I am looking forward to both.
YOWWWWSERRRRR….Great news about RapeGurneyJoe not getting the afl endors.!!!!!
That’s the thing: this vote was Rove as Dirty Harry: “So, the question is - Do you feel lucky punk?”
The vote is kinda the anti-Miranda - it can and will be used against you, anytime.
Folks like Kennedy/Kerry/Clinton and the rest are ’safe’, but the others?
considering Felix means happy and gay, it might not play so well in some parts of Ole Virginie …
OtisIsHungry #116
Cujo’s link is to a different vote, a parliamentary maneuver by Dick Durbin of Illinois, which preceded the vote on the actual amendment itself. As I just wrote in a comment above, Durbin’s Amendment on the Amendment was roll call 188. The vote on the Flag Burning Amendment was roll call 189, the following vote. My list is on roll call vote 189. So yes, your Senator voted for the amendment to outlaw flag burning.