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Granted, this whole Jason "I write Steve Gilliard's emails so he doesn't have to" Zengerle flap has been flogged by both sides of the issue to the point that surely, everything that can be said has been said. To me, it seems safe to say that we can leave this matter to the paste-addled Lost Boys of the Right to hash out indefinitely. But before we abandon the topic altogher, Billmon has weighed in on the issue, and the points he makes are worth repeating.
It sure has felt like We Hate Blogs Week between Zengerle, Brooks, Siegel, and the like. Billmon seems to know why:
OK, so now I've given you all my disclaimers. But I still haven't explained why I'm even talking about this stupid crap. The reason is what happened over the weekend: i.e. the major slime job in Newsweek, and David Brooks' ridiculous column in the New Pravda. The campaign against Kos, which I'd originally dismissed as just another pissy TNR vendetta, is starting to look more and more like a coordinated effort: a Swiftboat operation. At the very least, it's snowballing into a more systematic media attack on Left Blogistan, which makes it my fight as well as Kos's.
I'm not suggesting Karl Rove (or some other GOP mastermind) is behind this, or even that there is some kind of cabal of neocon/dino democrat-leaning journalists orchestrating it. But the m.o. very much resembles the classic Swiftboat strategy: start some vague, unsourced allegations echoing in the blogosphere, then persuade your ideological allies in the corporate media to start firing on target -- based on the flimsy excuse that "people are talking" about the "issue." Rinse and repeat.
(snip)
But none of this seething animosity would have mattered, or made it into print, if Kos hadn't committed the mortal sin of becoming too big and too visible to ignore. When you combine the relatively successful launch of his book -- which took a sawed off shotgun to the leeches attached to the Democratic Party's flabby underbelly -- the huge media coverage of this month's Yearly Kos convention, and (last but hardly least) the role of the netroots in boosting Ned Lamont's primary challenge to the TNR's pride and joy, it's clear that Kos has turned into a much more formidable opponent than the Dino Democrats bargained for.
Maybe it's just a coindidence that the media attacks started almost as soon as Yearly Kos ended, but I doubt it. Either all that favorable media coverage pushed the pretty boys at the TNR and the Times over the edge, or somebody, as they say in Godfather II, pushed a button.
(second snip)
Really, this is a pathetic excuse for slander. The TNR brigade should have taken their lead from Instapundit, and stuck to slyly relaying spurious rumors about Kos's sexual orientation -- while pretending to disparage said rumors. That's how you get to be a big name smear artist.
The real question in my mind is what the attack puppies are trying to accomplish. Surely they must understand that in the end, there is no such thing as bad publicity for a blogger. Ann Coulter has built an extremely lucrative career out of being attacked in print by her opponents. Does the TNR really think Daily Kos's traffic and ad revenues are going to do down because of this? If so, it may explain why the fucking rag is withering away: an absolute lack of business sense.
(final snip)
Whether that's good or bad for the Kossaks I don't know -- I suppose it depends on how much credence you give to Gandhi's old saw: "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." In the real world -- and in imperial America, too -- the truth is that sometimes they ignore you, then ridicule you, then fight you and crush you like an overripe eggplant. We'll see if that's true this time. Either way, though, it looks like the battle between the netroots and dino Dems is going to get very down and dirty indeed.
(Posted by billmon at June 26, 2006 08:09 PM)
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ah ha! Fitz!
Hi TRex.
Frecond?
My initial reaction to the TNR hit piece was this: “Boy, the success of YearlyKos sure scared the shit out of someone!” After reading Billmon’s analysis (among many others) it looks like I was right.
“There are too many of us for you to take out altogether. Strike one blogger down, and fifty more will rise up to fill the void.”
Words of wisdom!
TRex! You did/do radio? Where, WUOG?
the pic is greatness.
Dr. N, I’m at the NPR station here. I host ‘All Things Considered’ and a late night classical music show (which I’m hosting right now) called “Night Music”.
Are you from Athens? Oh, wait, you used to live here, didn’t you?
the pic is greatness.
Innit? I had to BEG darkblack to do it.
I prolly should have asked Jane before I used it tonight, but I don’t think she’ll mind.
Amen TRex….
I am on the road this week, having conversations with people at the hotel “happy hour”. The country going down the tubes and what to do, what to do… and I pipe up…. “are you doing anything?”
“Doing anything?” ….. Ya, are you doing anything to make change happen?
Wow…. I saw a glimmer of a light go off… And then I did my….. “If you are not hearing what you want to hear, then you must not be saying it”
If you are not seeing what needs to be done, then you are not doing something to make it happen!
September 12 my name will be on the ballot become an elected Precinct Committeeperson. Doing something!
One blogger is easy to dismiss - s/he’s crazy.
Two bloggers are easy to dismiss - they’re a whacked out couple.
But can you imagine three bloggers . . . four bloggers . . . can you imagine, a hundred folks a day, coming to a blog, and singing their song . . .
“You can get anything you want, at Jane and Redd’s Firedoglake . . . “
Yep, we got us a movement, all right. The FDL Anti-Monarchy, Constitutional Accountability, Public Servant-loving Movement. Any all you’ve got to do to join is jump in on the chorus the next time the thread comes around. In harmony.
“You can get anything you want, at Jane and Redd’s Firedoglake . . . “
Be afraid, evildoers. Be very afraid.
“We’re here because we love our country and believe that it can be restored to greatness and we’re willing to work together to make sure that it happens.”
Amen…
Trex, who’s playing Baby Jesus?
still getting a chuckle out of “special needs voters (Republicans)” from last night
ahhhhh Trex! I love a man who can type “parvenu”!
and a perfect post to end today
So is Kobe the Holy Ghost or GodtheBlogfather?
Amen Brother.
What I lack in smarts I make up for in size.
And I’ve got your back.
siun, the HG is a bird.
Trex, who’s playing Baby Jesus?
That’s some liberal blogger dude. What’s his name? Kaz? Koop?
well opdear … I did remember that - bird or tongues of fire (which I always like better)
Strike one blogger down, and fifty more will rise up to fill the void.
Not me, I’m too lazy; but I will post comments.
Excellent post otherwise (other than that snide remark about “nice” people)
Oh, the curly do is throwing me off.
“There are too many of us for you to take out altogether. Strike one blogger down, and fifty more will rise up to fill the void.”
Hydradoglake?
Obi Jane Kenobi?
Jane is the Lord Almighty, Kobe is the Son, and Christy is the Holy Prosecutorial Ghost.
That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
Trex … you’ll have to join our media team for next YKOS! My best cohort is a former npr gm and we had a very good time encouraging the npr folks who covered - and an extra wonderful time with Adam Burke who I now have a tremendous crush on (oops … I did not say that!)
Hi TRex- someone in comments earlier today asked for a special TRex category so that it would be easier to find your previous articles. Is it okay if I do that? Would you add that category to your posts? thx
I’m trying to stick to a strict no-blogwhoring diet, but I do have a Kobe pic and a Jane pic up from Jane’s visit to Pittsburgh Drinking Liberally.
(Hmm, “Kobe Jane Kenobi” works even better…)
well, when you become TRex, Inc., just remember to throw a bone to us little folks who were there at the beginnning…
Tweety on Colbert.
more ot … ahem …
one thing that’s been striking to me dealing with te media recently is how far so many of them are from getting it … not so much on the koolaid bit but on the basic journalism 101 score as well as complete befuddlement over anything open source
The number of unsourced, innuendo-based, not-even-a-pretence-of-fact-check pieces is just pure bad form - and that’s from our “friends” And many think that if they report something on their “blogs” they don’t have to do any of the usual due diligence - they seem to think calling it a “blog” absolves them from any basic journalistic responsibility.
love the virgin jane, but you better include three poodles wrapped in swaddling clothes for the picture to be complete.
who are those people in the picture supposed to be?
It doesn’t matter here who your parents are . . .
. . . except, of course, for the fact that if you’re here, they probably did a good job of raising you to think for yourself, teaching you to be open to the wisdom of others, and instilling a love for your neighbor.
Kind of like Greta.
In that sense, who your parents are matters a great deal.
Having said that, there are a whole lot of folks out there to whom I need to say thank you . . . but I don’t know how to contact them. If you all could pass these thoughts along to the appropriate people from me, I’d appreciate it.
Eli - gorgeous pic of Jane … that’s a keeper!
Ah, yes… is that WGAU? Anyway, cool. You don’t go by some lame-ass Sinjin (St John), do you? ;-)
There was a British PBS program, on the launch of Operation Barbarossa — Hitler’s invasion of the Soviet Union.
It read a passage written by a German Officer, who said something to the effect that the Wehrmacht was like an elephant attacking an ant hill — millions of ants would be killed, but in the end, the ants would overcome the elephant and pick it’s carcass clean.
Karl Rove and his wing nut minions will never defeat us, because we are vast — we contain multitudes.
We are like ants . . .
We’ve been playing whack a mole for way too long with them.
About time the roles were reversed. And there’s getting to be a lot more of us than them.
Game on.
I’m assuming I count among the we who are legion who scare the wee-wee off (out of) they who are more powerful than we. When we actually do something, we who are legion, then. I don’t know. I’ll be really happy?
Let’s do something why don’t we?
Do I have to be a patriot though? I don’t wanna.
hell yes! count me in!
….You can get anything you want, at Jane and Redd’s Firedoglake
Eli - gorgeous pic of Jane %u2026 that’s a keeper!
Thanks! I got a great picture of Jane laughing… right after we moved from outdoors to indoors, and, um, before I changed my camera settings…
Chris Wallace just put Colbert in a headlock.
And vice versa.
Good Lord.
ELi,
Better?
http://i67.photobucket.com/alb.....epirx1.jpg
Chris Mathews, aka Tweety on Colbert
nice shots eli! that’s my arm behind kobe. wow. i’m having my 15 minutes.
“And we’ve got your number. You can move forward with us, or get dragged behind us. The choice is yours.”
What’s more, we don’t care what choice you make. We’ve got access–to a computer. And we have a pretty damn big megaphone.
ELi,
Better?
Heh. I tried it like that, but I liked it better dark.
i can’t write worth shit, but i do have a overactive imagination…
trex, you sure know how to turn a phrase…oh, the pictures i have in my mind right now……
Tweety: Hardball is trying to get a little bit of truth out of a pol. You gotta keep squeezing and squeezing– not the balls but the brain.
He comes off like a doofus and when asked what his political persuasion was said I don’t wanna tell, make me!
Beautiful pic– tis the essence of Ms. Jane, Eli!
Great post TRex!
Thanks, angie! And squirrel hiller! I’m not 100% sure which one you were - what were you wearing?
Ah, yes%u2026 is that WGAU? Anyway, cool. You don’t go by some lame-ass Sinjin (St John), do you? ;-)
St. John was my first serious boyfriend, but that was waaaaaaay before either of us even thought about going into radio. Lord, that was 16 years ago. Whew!
Time flies when you get old.
Well done, TRex. Well done. I too was plucked from obscurity in the comment threads.
TRex, another fine post. Nice to be hanging with all ya’ll on the Group W Bench.
I’ll tell you, when I was in San Francisco this weekend, the fog was so thick that the chip in my skull couldn’t receive instructions from Kos’ satellite. I was overwhelmed and disoriented with options. Thank God, the fog burned off in the afternoon and I was back “on point.”
I don’t think I’ll be going back any time soon.
Okay, shift’s over, amigos!
Gonna run to the store and procure some dinner, then I’ll check in from home.
Thanks for coming!
TRex, wait! You forgot to take my list with you.
It feels like a coordinated attack to me. Bush, Cheney. and Snow doing that multiple versions of the same talk thing they did before the war; pundits from the right all hitting the same targets at once; everyone banging out the same message on multiple fronts.
Seems like the Rovian orchestrated, Full Monty, with only slight twists from every other time.
It’s not called paranoia when they’re shooting real bullets.
Oh man… the world is too small. I’ll shut up now.
TRex, you just keep the hits coming. Thanks for another great post.
DB #51:
Mark Twain once remarked that he’d never spent as cold a winter as summer in SF. Drop back in September-October, and you’ll be dazzled at the beauty.
punaise at 27:
well, when you become TRex, Inc., just remember to throw a bone to us little folks who were there at the beginnning…
We represent
the Lollipop Guild
the Lollipop Guild
the Lollipop Guild…
Hee hee!
The picture is different. It seems odd to say it’s different, but it’s DIFFERENT! Like baby Jesus, do you think they hate Kos cause he’s got personal power, compassion, wisdom and is real? They don’t know what they’re missing. It’s not too late for them to come along is it?
Mickey #54:
Agree, Rove called out lefty blogs in one of his speeches the week before. From a communications standpoint, they really know how to bring it.
We represent
the Lollipop Guild
the Lollipop Guild
the Lollipop Guild%u2026
Hee hee!
Lollipup Guild, I think.
I just wonder why they can’t play this dirty against the Rethuglicans. WTF?
I just wonder why they can’t play this dirty against the Rethuglicans. WTF?
With what army? The Democrats are at the wrong end of the megaphone.
I prolly should have asked Jane before I used it tonight, but I don’t think she’ll mind.
Either that, or she’ll be too deeply disturbed to ever post again. One of the two.
(Even so, that’s no excuse for not even making the attempt)
With what army?
I dunno… The New Republic?
Fantastic post, great link, and darkblack for the win!
The corporate media/Beltway Dems/corrupt powermongers wish they were only “observers.”
Mrs. K8—Norske’s been around but perhaps not with the same frequency as he used to. His last post was yesterday
Your question reminded me of something I’ve been meaning to ask for a while.
Does anyone know what happened to Grandpa? Anyone know how to reach him?
I dunno… The New Republic?
I hope that was sarcasm…
Eli - Lollipup Guild, I think.
LOL. that saves us from becoming Lolliputians
off to watch Gaul take it to Iberia (tape delay)
From Rove’s lips to TNR’s ears. The timing of Rove’s speach works for me, and we know how effective PiggyRove is at getting out what he wants gotten out by his minions on the right.
LOL. that saves us from becoming Lolliputians
And the moderators save us from Trolliputians.
Eli #63: Got a mirror handy?
As I live in the greater Phoenix area, the morning Arizona Republic printed in their OP/ED section, their support for the Sentator from CT. Our favorite Joe Liberman.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizo.....e2-27.html
Warning: For those who have a weak stomach, please avoid this article.
Personally, TRex, I’d prefer to see Brooks “dragged behind” us.
Moderator comment: rest edited out. Jane has said very clearly that she doesn’t want anything advocating violence posted- Period.
I think we need to be very mindful that the attacks come not from Rove but from the neocon wing of the dems … like TNR.
Wonderful post TRex, especially the last paragraph. It’s true…”We’re here and we’re coming in”.
We also have our great sense of humor to ride us through any rough spots. Nothing annoys them more than our laughing at their ridiculous and transparent attempts to stop us. And, seriously, we’re not going away until we change things for the better.
Eli #63: Got a mirror handy?
We are not an army, if that’s what you’re getting at. The blogosphere seems big and loud and important when you’re inside it, but most of the people watching CNN and Fox News don’t even know it *exists*.
In terms of getting message/narrative out, the media trumps the blogosphere without even breaking a sweat. We’re narrowing the gap, but it’s still huge and I think it always will be.
In retrospect, I probably should have typed “his most recent comment”
Actually, one caveat to my last post: If the media overreaches and utterly discredits itself, the US media situation will emulate that of the Soviet Union, where everyone knows Pravda and Izvestia are government lies, and turns to the samizdat to find out what’s *really* going on.
Second caveat: I think a larger percentage of *influential* people are aware of the blogosphere and what it’s saying, and it definitely gets under their skin, or else TNR/Brooks/et al. wouldn’t even bother.
eli 48
i was wearing a button that said “an insult to primates everywhere” with a pix of guess who in the middle. i rode my bicycle also.
Phoenix … heh!
I had a long chat with my mom in New Haven yesterday and she was raving about Lamont and the attention he’s drawing. Said she was at a big shindig on the Green and Lieberman’s folks were having trouble giving away their flyers while everyone was lined up to see Ned!
I mentioned that nasty Lieberman flyer that we all talked about yesterday and she said “oh, that’s what that was … I threw it out … I never read that junk.”
I should note that a month ago she was not so sure that Ned could make an impression and she was worried he couldn’t win New Haven - now she’s telling all her friends to vote for him - and when anyone spouts the “greenwich millionaire” line she asks what’s wrong with that and how much money do you think Joe’s socked away!
Deborah—No, we’re not going anywhere, much to the annoyance of the haties of the wingersphere. I will just pray for them…it pisses them off and does me good. ;)
yow
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-and i’m a guilder.
thanks
i was wearing a button that said “an insult to primates everywhere” with a pix of guess who in the middle. i rode my bicycle also.
I need clothing colors. I recognize people by overall big-picture gestalt.
I should note that a month ago she was not so sure that Ned could make an impression and she was worried he couldn’t win New Haven - now she’s telling all her friends to vote for him - and when anyone spouts the “greenwich millionaire” line she asks what’s wrong with that and how much money do you think Joe’s socked away!
Shorter CT voters: “You had me at ‘Someone’s running against Lieberman.’”
It was not long ago that if someone on NPR or cable made a reference to blogs, someone would feel the need to explain to listeners what they were talking about. And there were damn few references to them. I didn’t really discover them until the 2004 campaign.
I think their spread is viral, and mostly apart from regular media. We don’t depend on Tweety to get the word out. Finding a blog where like-minded people congregate is an aha! experience, especially if you live in a conservative part of the map.
When I read that so many YK attendees were not, ahem, young, I thought it was hardly coincidence that people who graduated from high school in the sixties and seventies were still idealistic, still trying to save the world a small chunk at a time. We are not going gently into the ominous deepening twilight all around us. We have had enough. And some of our children are joining us.
TRex, I really appreciate this post. You summed up so beautifully what has been passing for groupthink on cable and in print during the last few weeks. The barrage of snotty criticism is new, and I think you’re right about the reasons for it.
Darkblack is a genius.
Eli - I’m not saying that we trump the media yet (if I thought that I wouldn’t work in media relations) but look at the cable viewership numbers and contrast with the big blogs reader numbers and we’re closing fast amongst news junkies. And YearlyKos got a lot of very positive attention out there beyond the blogosphere.
Evening. I think it’s good that all weathered the attack. Rejoice. But don’t let your guard down! Remember: Never Underestimate Your Enemy
No doubt an attack was mounted. This time the attack was weak; disorganized. Some guy creates false emails, while another writes an OpEd piece that makes childish references to lambs and so forth. Scattered attack. BUT:
They’ll be back. They’ll come back harder, stronger, and better organized. You’ll need to learn to counter their next attack in better fashion than you did this time. The critcal review: the left, progressive Democrat response was also scattered, diffused. Learn from this. You can, and you will.
Consider the last many days as a shell that fell wide. But they’ll learn to zero in. But for tonight, you deserve some accolades. Job well done. But….it’s not over.
Ghostman
“We are striking fear in the hearts of all the right people. We’re coming over the barricades.”
So, TRex, now that you’re over the kewl kid hurdle and headed to pundit-dom, how does it feel? Tell us how it feels to be a Townhousian.
Rabid lambs want to know.
Great post, I think this really does signify a turning point in the balance of powers.
I also liked this bit from Billmon’s excellent post:
That aside, I think he’s dead on that the DLC/neolob/oldschool consultancy is starting to hear their deathknell as they watch us gain power and momentum. So, yes. The long knives are coming out.
i just wanted to add my two cents as far as the sliming of the left side of the blogosphere is concerned. it (the liberal blogosphere, yearly kos etc.) doesn’t need to be defended. it just is. and what it is is fucking beautiful. the sound you hear is jealousy, plain and simple. defend it if you want but it speaks for itself and the wit and humor drown out all the no talent losers in the msm. does anyone honestly think we need to stick up for wolcott? get it? blogostan is the ultimate meritocracy and our side has all the merit. case closed. fuck the trolls, fuck the sell-outs and fuck the critics. they all add up to a sock full of shit. just do what you do and ignore david brooks and the rest of the trolls. if you defend you are attacked.
I’m not saying the blogs have no presence at all, but I think their total readership is a very small fraction of the electorate, especially compared to the mass media.
I don’t really know what the big blogs’ readership numbers mean, because I don’t know how you truly identify unique readers.
The truth of the matter is that we are the real patriots. We’re here because we love our country and believe that it can be restored to greatness and we’re willing to work together to make sure that it happens.
yup. and no manner of watb crying is going to make assholes like me go away.
I was always struck by the fact that getting into the blogs and getting somethig out of them is really quite easy if you simply READ and follow some links for a month perhaps.
And L Blogistan is loaded with talent, passion, ideas, ethics and cutting analysis. Why don’t these people over there wise up and learn something? All they have to do is use their little mouse…
So they either have studied this thing and see how it is and how it grows and how is could rattle this cage… or they just are dumb as the lamp post and can’t even see what is right in front of their eyes and have to stomp on it from pure unadulterated paranoia.
The latter seems so hard to believe so they must really be running scare that the people have a way to join hands across america… instead of across their own street and this smells like trouble for them up there in DC.
Curious here to see how big the blogistan can grow and stay the same… without getting hierarchical and celeb pundit like. Cheeze they all ready had Kos on MTP!
I’m going to bed…. bye
Left Blogistan-”We are legion”
Right Blogistan-”We are lesions”
-GSD
Hi Teddy- I sent you an email earlier, asking for a personal favor. Has it turned up?
eli 88
i had an olive denim jacket and black bike trousers with black bike shoes. glasses askew and goofy brown hair. caucasian. female. all teeth. scar on nose.
Ghostman - I think the key thing is not how “you” do but what *we* do.
In fact, I wrote the following in a response to the nonsense at Ezra Klein’s today:
…………………………..
Just a bit of background -
The Zengerle story was launched by the Suellentrop piece in the NYT which originally relied in part on false information posted by “Petey” on another blog. As the media coordinator for YearlyKos, I requested and received a very solid correction of that information by the NYT and now Ezra has also posted a correction as a later post here.
The reliance on unsourced and un-checked “information” - esp “information” from parties with a dog in the fight be it animus toward Markos or something else - in this whole uproar is a very good lesson in how far journalistic ethics have fallen.
Stephen’s comment about our internalizing of the media message is very important and should be noted. It’s fascinating to see so many jumping to the tune of the smear campaign - for that is what this is - rather than considering what and why is driving this story. With CTG and YKOS making a big impression beyond the blogosphere, the powers that be are hitting back - and it seems that many here are very willing to add their weight to that hit.
Are there questions about Jerome’s past - seems so - and I’m sure they will be addressed when and as they can be. But the point of the attack is not to hurt Jerome, it’s to hurt Markos as the representative face of the blogoshere. We may all understand that identifying Markos as “the blogosphere” is a sign of how much “they” don’t get it - and we may have varying personal opionions about Markos (I like him but disagree with him on a bunch of stuff) - but the apparent willingness to ignore what is really going on here - a serious attempt to discredit the blogosphere - shows that a lot of “us” need to learn a bit more about how the game is played.
The best responses to this whole thing have come from the wide array of blog readers who have fought back with humor and baaa’s and gone on with their work to change the political discourse in this country - they understand that our work is not dependent on or dimished by either the possible flaws of one person or the approval of the big boys.
posted by: siun | Jun 27, 2006 12:34:44 PM
You know, I made some comments such as this two days ago over at Crooks and Liars and got jumped on as being a troll or a closet Repub. It’s nice to see unity, but me thinks there’s people out there who A) haven’t yet learned to properly focus their rage and B) haven’t learned anything about the the Right’s smear tactics. Don’t get caught in their fake controversies and just flat out roll over them with truth and power. Did people already forget your your other great post TRex? I know blogs have short attention span, but damn people, that was just last week.
gsd 99 -
ewwwwwww!
hee-hee-hee…
And L Blogistan is loaded with talent, passion, ideas, ethics and cutting analysis. Why don’t these people over there wise up and learn something? All they have to do is use their little mouse…
This is one of the many things that pisses me off so much about the Dems. They have this huge, incredible open source resource just dying to help, and all they can think of is to hit it up for money.
i had an olive denim jacket and black bike trousers with black bike shoes. glasses askew and goofy brown hair. caucasian. female. all teeth. scar on nose.
Ah, okay. I think I may have been looking at the wrong arm, then. I was looking at a bare one. It was nice meeting you!
Eli @96-
While our numbers may be small percentage-wise, the influence goes the other direction. I can no longer count how many times co-workers have come up to me and said, ‘hey, you read blogs. What’s really up with xxx?’
While our numbers may be small percentage-wise, the influence goes the other direction. I can no longer count how many times co-workers have come up to me and said, ‘hey, you read blogs. What’s really up with xxx?’
Oh, how I hope that’s so. My worry is the vast, vast millions of uncritical, unquestioning lumps who get *all* their info and opinions from the TV.
nodding to zzyzx … it’s like in the early tech days when everyone would ask “what computer should I buy” coz you were the resident techie …
Hey Eli - your fave books include some of mine - Queen of Angels - awesome and the Gap Series was a rush! Eon scares me to this day but I’ll have to check your others. Any chance you read KSR?
remember that 70% of those “vast unquestioning lumps” don’t like Bush
it’s funny, billmon’s point. he says it beautifully, but i’ll try my hand: any asshole with a website can say anything. the truth or falsity of the statement made is neither here nor there. then a “legitimate” news source can “report on the controversy” leaving aside any discussion of the underlying statement’s veracity.
that’s it. it’s happening to my family right now. my wife is being defamed by an anonymous poster who has made horrible accusations against her. a prominent magazine in her field took these accusations and reported on the controversy without examining the issue at hand.
it sucks. i can tell you, it sucks when SBVFT does it, and it sucks when it happens to you. i won’t bore anyone here with the details, but please do come on by my site and leave a supportive message should you be so inclined. i’ve been a light but regular poster here for a while, and i love this site.
When the threat gets real enough, the SPEW starts flowing. The attacks are a sign of success and fear. Nothin’ to do but keep the hand on the rudder and to keep on keepin’ on…Respond, not react, I guess…but the work goes on.
eli 96
“…their total readership is a very small fraction of the electorate, especially compared to the mass media.”
i dont think thats the point. check out malcome gladwell’s “the tipping point.” he writes of “social epidemics” and devines three basic forces: “the Connectors, the Mavens, and the Salesmen.” blogs like this almost epitomize his notion of connectors as a vital force. not by numbers but by symbiotic influence.
Eli @ 96
But when it comes to winning elections, the size of the electorate is almost an afterthought. What matters is the size of the group you get to show up on the Big Tuesday (or send in their absentee ballots before then). That’s a whole ‘nuther kettle of fish, and the correlation between newsjunkies and voters tends to be quite high.
Ghostman @ 92 is spot on with his crystal ball. The vicious, o