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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/25/how-to-build-a-world-class-city/#comment-160487</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I love to hear stories about cultural projects and the public being willing to pay taxes for them, but not for subsidizing sports teams.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love to hear stories about cultural projects and the public being willing to pay taxes for them, but not for subsidizing sports teams.</p>
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		<title>By: dustbury.com</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/25/how-to-build-a-world-class-city/#comment-160273</link>
		<dc:creator>dustbury.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A brief history of the Renaissance&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The “most massive quality of life package ever devised in this nation.” That’s a tall claim, but Oklahoma City’s MAPS delivered on its promises and then some. Here’s an interesting…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A brief history of the Renaissance</strong></p>
<p>The “most massive quality of life package ever devised in this nation.” That’s a tall claim, but Oklahoma City’s MAPS delivered on its promises and then some. Here’s an interesting…</p>
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		<title>By: neurophius</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/25/how-to-build-a-world-class-city/#comment-159551</link>
		<dc:creator>neurophius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oilfield Guy:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am way, way EPU’d, having sat through the book discussion group and the thread that followed it, now going back to see what I missed earlier.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was born and grew up in OKC.  We lived about half a mile north of the fairgrounds.  I don’t know if that made us silk shirts; my father was an engineer and wore white shirts to work but they weren’t silk.  We lived across the street from a brick mason and next door to a guy who worked in a meat packing plant.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We could see the lights from the fairground at night, and in the summer, could hear the stock car races. We walked to the state fairgrounds when the fair was in session, they let us out of school to go.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I never spent any time that I can recall south of the river, it’s interesting to hear your point of view about that area. I left there when I was 15 and never knew much about the politics. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your article makes me want to go check out some of the improvements to OKC next time I am in the area.  Good job, and good luck with the OK netroots. Rootz!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oilfield Guy:</p>
<p>I am way, way EPU’d, having sat through the book discussion group and the thread that followed it, now going back to see what I missed earlier.  </p>
<p>I was born and grew up in OKC.  We lived about half a mile north of the fairgrounds.  I don’t know if that made us silk shirts; my father was an engineer and wore white shirts to work but they weren’t silk.  We lived across the street from a brick mason and next door to a guy who worked in a meat packing plant.  </p>
<p>We could see the lights from the fairground at night, and in the summer, could hear the stock car races. We walked to the state fairgrounds when the fair was in session, they let us out of school to go.  </p>
<p>I never spent any time that I can recall south of the river, it’s interesting to hear your point of view about that area. I left there when I was 15 and never knew much about the politics. </p>
<p>Your article makes me want to go check out some of the improvements to OKC next time I am in the area.  Good job, and good luck with the OK netroots. Rootz!</p>
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		<title>By: Margot</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/25/how-to-build-a-world-class-city/#comment-159438</link>
		<dc:creator>Margot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yay OFG!&lt;br /&gt;
Uncle Foonman, my mom graduated from OU and Norman is where we visited my grandparents every holiday and summer. Very dear memories for me. Welcome!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay OFG!<br />
Uncle Foonman, my mom graduated from OU and Norman is where we visited my grandparents every holiday and summer. Very dear memories for me. Welcome!</p>
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		<title>By: shoephone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/25/how-to-build-a-world-class-city/#comment-159397</link>
		<dc:creator>shoephone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OFG - Just got online today and found this excellent, uplifting, thought-provoking post! I’m gonna have to get to you another time (I have a million comments) but the garden requires my attention before the start of a grueling workweek. Your blog doesn’t have a “contact me” link. If you email me with address, I can get back to you later. Because by the time I get back here it’ll will long be EPU’d.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’ve got my brain going a hundred miles an hour…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“It’s a question of value”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perfect.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OFG &#8211; Just got online today and found this excellent, uplifting, thought-provoking post! I’m gonna have to get to you another time (I have a million comments) but the garden requires my attention before the start of a grueling workweek. Your blog doesn’t have a “contact me” link. If you email me with address, I can get back to you later. Because by the time I get back here it’ll will long be EPU’d.</p>
<p>You’ve got my brain going a hundred miles an hour…</p>
<p>“It’s a question of value”.</p>
<p>Perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Cieran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cieran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oilfieldguy:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great story about a great success of progressive values!  Nice work!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just about fell out of my chair when I took a minute to catch up on my FDL reading before heading off to a dinner meeting, and saw my Bricktown dinner destination (Mickey Mantle’s, right there in the middle of your image of OKC) instead of the latest Plameology news!  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OKC is a gem of a city, and you did a terrific job of explaining why.  I moved to this area four years ago, after living for twenty-five years in the greater San Francisco area, and I’ve never regretted doing what I call “the reverse Joad family migration”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There’s just so much good in this part of the country, whether it’s successful urban development (Bricktown), excellent schools (K-12 and colleges), rich progressive history (the Green Corn Rebellion) or a history of capable political leaders who governed from the center (Carl Albert, David Boren).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There’s plenty that needs work in these parts, but there’s so much more here that’s true and good, and as a happily-naturalized-Okie, I really appreciate how well you have told the story of one of the best things about this part of the country.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oilfieldguy:</p>
<p>Great story about a great success of progressive values!  Nice work!</p>
<p>I just about fell out of my chair when I took a minute to catch up on my FDL reading before heading off to a dinner meeting, and saw my Bricktown dinner destination (Mickey Mantle’s, right there in the middle of your image of OKC) instead of the latest Plameology news!  </p>
<p>OKC is a gem of a city, and you did a terrific job of explaining why.  I moved to this area four years ago, after living for twenty-five years in the greater San Francisco area, and I’ve never regretted doing what I call “the reverse Joad family migration”.</p>
<p>There’s just so much good in this part of the country, whether it’s successful urban development (Bricktown), excellent schools (K-12 and colleges), rich progressive history (the Green Corn Rebellion) or a history of capable political leaders who governed from the center (Carl Albert, David Boren).</p>
<p>There’s plenty that needs work in these parts, but there’s so much more here that’s true and good, and as a happily-naturalized-Okie, I really appreciate how well you have told the story of one of the best things about this part of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I admire what OKC accomplished.  They have had a lot of help, though, from the state government being there.  I wish I could say the same about Tulsa.  I just moved away from there, and not a moment too soon.  All of the businesses have been leaving, and even the oil businesses have now moved their headquarters to Houston.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tulsa will has had to struggle with the worst mayor in Oklahoma, and thankfully has picked a Democrat for office instead of continuing with the worst.mayor.ever.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Will things work out the same way for Tulsa?  I don’t know, but I gave up after putting in 12 years.  It didn’t seem to be getting any better to me.  I moved to a purple state and will pitch in here, instead.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, yes, I am part of the educated/entreprenurial Gen-X crowd that Tulsa knows it needs to keep, but can’t seem to get it together enough to more than mouth the words.  Right after getting their marching orders from the Oral Roberts/Victory Christian/south side suburbanites.  I don’t think they will ever get it together, but I am hopeful that I am wrong.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admire what OKC accomplished.  They have had a lot of help, though, from the state government being there.  I wish I could say the same about Tulsa.  I just moved away from there, and not a moment too soon.  All of the businesses have been leaving, and even the oil businesses have now moved their headquarters to Houston.</p>
<p>Tulsa will has had to struggle with the worst mayor in Oklahoma, and thankfully has picked a Democrat for office instead of continuing with the worst.mayor.ever.</p>
<p>Will things work out the same way for Tulsa?  I don’t know, but I gave up after putting in 12 years.  It didn’t seem to be getting any better to me.  I moved to a purple state and will pitch in here, instead.  </p>
<p>And, yes, I am part of the educated/entreprenurial Gen-X crowd that Tulsa knows it needs to keep, but can’t seem to get it together enough to more than mouth the words.  Right after getting their marching orders from the Oral Roberts/Victory Christian/south side suburbanites.  I don’t think they will ever get it together, but I am hopeful that I am wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: AirportCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>AirportCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OFG, all this talk of going fishing has brought to mind a favorite song of mine, by David Knopfler (brother of Mark, both of &lt;i&gt;Dire Straits&lt;/i&gt; fame), from his “Small Mercies” album (1994)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Going Fishing&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One day I’ll go fishing son&lt;br /&gt;
When my working days are done&lt;br /&gt;
I’ll buy a rod and learn the art&lt;br /&gt;
Of how to still a hungry heart&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of how to cast off life’s ambitions&lt;br /&gt;
Of those things best left undone&lt;br /&gt;
Don’t call me for decisions&lt;br /&gt;
I’m goin’ fishing with my son&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s about half of it, not sure how much I could put in without straying across the copyright / fair use line. It’s a beautiful, simple song, worth finding and listening to it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OFG, all this talk of going fishing has brought to mind a favorite song of mine, by David Knopfler (brother of Mark, both of <i>Dire Straits</i> fame), from his “Small Mercies” album (1994)</p>
<p><b>Going Fishing</b></p>
<p>One day I’ll go fishing son<br />
When my working days are done<br />
I’ll buy a rod and learn the art<br />
Of how to still a hungry heart</p>
<p>…</p>
<p>Of how to cast off life’s ambitions<br />
Of those things best left undone<br />
Don’t call me for decisions<br />
I’m goin’ fishing with my son</p>
<p>…</p>
<p>That’s about half of it, not sure how much I could put in without straying across the copyright / fair use line. It’s a beautiful, simple song, worth finding and listening to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Oilfieldguy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/25/how-to-build-a-world-class-city/#comment-159085</link>
		<dc:creator>Oilfieldguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And when Plato spoke, they all said how well he spoke.  And when Diogenes spoke, they marched.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when Plato spoke, they all said how well he spoke.  And when Diogenes spoke, they marched.</p>
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		<title>By: hufNpuf</title>
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		<dc:creator>hufNpuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great post OFG. I was born in Enid and we moved to the City when I was 13 in 1951.I grew up with all those beautiful buildings downtown. The Criterion theater.Where I saw Blackboard Jungle and heard my first Rock and Roll,”Rock around the clock”. I wasn’t living in the city during urban renewal but I am still pissed at I.M. Pei for pushing for the destruction of all those beautiful buildings that were built in the 20’s and 30’s. I felt that the City was now a city without an architectual past. I live in Santa FE NM now. But I have a son living in Norman. I think it great what is happening now. And the ballpark is a gem. Love the statue of Mickey Mantle. Have they finished those statues of the Sooners by the river? Again’ nice to see the City moving on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post OFG. I was born in Enid and we moved to the City when I was 13 in 1951.I grew up with all those beautiful buildings downtown. The Criterion theater.Where I saw Blackboard Jungle and heard my first Rock and Roll,”Rock around the clock”. I wasn’t living in the city during urban renewal but I am still pissed at I.M. Pei for pushing for the destruction of all those beautiful buildings that were built in the 20’s and 30’s. I felt that the City was now a city without an architectual past. I live in Santa FE NM now. But I have a son living in Norman. I think it great what is happening now. And the ballpark is a gem. Love the statue of Mickey Mantle. Have they finished those statues of the Sooners by the river? Again’ nice to see the City moving on.</p>
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