
[I'm so pleased to have this guest post from our own OilFieldGuy. TeddySanFran, OFG, Mr. ReddHedd and I had a wonderful lunch on Thursday at YearlyKos, and we spent a good portion of the meal talking about building grassroots infrastructure and how important starting from the local level and moving upwards is in terms of a truly solid foundation. OFG told us about this project that he had worked on in Oklahoma City, and I thought it was a perfect example for everyone else of how a band of committed few could make a world of difference. -- CHS]
This is a story of hope, of bold visionary leadership, and grassroots political action successfully improving the lives of its citizens. A message very important in these dark days of rudderless and incompetent leadership.
Welcome to Oklahoma City!
A blast from a cannon announced the birth of Oklahoma at high noon on April 22, 1889. The children of these pioneers have overcome tremendous obstacles to make their sires proud at the close of the last century and the beginning of the new. In true pioneer spirit, they saw a better future over the horizon and dug deep to put forth the most massive quality of life package ever devised in this nation. A total of nine whopping projects, each one being massive enough to stand alone for voter approval. Oklahoma law requires tax increases to be approved by a vote of the people. To build a world-class city, the requirements are 1) A need 2) leadership and 3) value.
The need.
Oklahoma City was in pretty bad shape. Huge expansion had made it the largest city in the nation when I was a kid. The running joke in the 60s was Fidel better straighten out or we’ll send them OKC boys down there to annex Cuba. The SCOTUS "white flight" decision brought blight to our inner city, as it did throughout the country. "Urban renewal" just made things worse, by eliminating a lot of housing and the oil bust of the mid 1980s was ruinous to our economy. Penn Square Bank collapsed, followed by a whole slew of others. If it was Thursday, more banks would fall. Personally, I could not find work in the oilfields of Oklahoma and took other work, each one paying less than the last. And when poverty knocks at the door, love flies out the window. My wife left me with three small children, the youngest in diapers. To try and improve our future prospects, I enrolled full-time at college, swallowed my pride, and took a part-time job flipping hamburgers.
Leadership.
Mayor Norick took office in 87. He was picking cotton in the arena of public service in the huge shadow of his father, former Mayor Jim Norick, who oversaw the expansion of the 60s, modernized our water system and built the convention center, and other large projects. The needs were huge and the funds were non-existent. The push was on to lure major employers. Large corporations, knowing their worth, require tithes for consideration. Three times Mayor Norick called for, and received a vote to increase sales taxes for the benefit of these jobs. All three times the employers chose to go elsewhere. The natives were growing restless. Our infrastructure was crumbling. The ADA was going to make our baseball park obsolete, the Canadian River that divides the town from north to south drained so well we had to keep it mowed. The livestock area of our state fairgrounds were dilapidated as was our convention center and civic center. Mayor Norick joined with other city leaders to address these needs and instead of making a "Sophies Choice" the decision was made to bundle all of them together and offer an all or nothing choice to the people. The nine projects were:
The river project. City leaders, sensitive to the "dust bowl" image suffered by Oklahoma, proposed creating a series of river lakes by building a series of three dams. This "crown jewel" project cost a total of $52 million.
A brand new 20,000 seat indoor sports/entertainment arena. Total cost $64.8 million.
Renovation of the Civic Center performing arts building. Total cost $51 million.
Renovation of the Myriad Convention Center and the addition of 100,000 square feet of new ballrooms and meeting rooms over the north plaza. Total cost $63.1 million.
State Fair renovations. The loss of the National Finals Rodeo to Las Vegas in ‘85 was a severe blow to OKC. Updating the fairgrounds arena and other equine facilities was seen as mandatory to prevent future hemorrhaging. The fairgrounds project was the only one to be completed on time and on budget. Total cost $14 million.
Public transportation linkage to the projects. Originally planned as a light rail system, that got railroaded by our very own congresscritter Earnest Istook R-Warr Acres, who blocked matching Federal funds as a waste of money. City leaders pivoted to 9 rubber tire trolley replicas. Total cost $5.3 million.
A shiny new baseball field located in Bricktown. The Oklahoma Redhawks is the farm team for the Texas Rangers, and the ballpark was fashioned after Dubyas old sandbox located south of the red river, in the state we refer to as "Baja Oklahoma." This 12,000 seat facility was rated in the top two nationwide for minor league play. Total cost $34.2 million.
The Bricktown Canal. Bricktown was one of the more blighted areas of downtown. An old brick warehouse district that virtually sat in the evening shadows of the downtown skyscrapers defiantly jutting out of the plains. Some going concerns remained, but most buildings were vacant, sporting broken windows and housing unsavories. The idea was to model it after Dallas’ famed "West End" with the canal being reminiscent of the San Antonio riverwalk.
the canal would be a mile long, have water taxis, and link downtown to Bricktown to the river. Did I mention vision yet? Total cost $23.1 million.
The Library/Learning Center. Four stories tall and 110,000 square feet it has been called the "Ft. Knox of learning". Boasting meeting centers and all forms of modern multi-media state of the art gizmos, the aptly named Ronald J. Norick Downtown Library provides those seeking wisdom a one stop shop. Just call Ronnie "the bus driver" cause he’s taking us all to school. Total cost $21.5 million.
So there you have it. Nine projects totaling $329 million dollars and is not related to directly recruiting a major employer. The vote would be a county-wide one cent sales tax increase for five years. A real tough sell for a city that was broke and closing banks in the throes of a major recession. It was obvious this was a "pie in the sky boondoggle."
Value.
As a major in journalism, I became acquainted with Dave Sellers, the owner and publisher of the Capitol Hill Beacon, a community paper serving South (of the river) OKC. He hired me out of college as an adman, because "there isn’t a lot of money in journalism." Dave, just like Dave Thomas of Wendy’s, sported hokey short sleeve dress shirts and was the salt of the earth. I had been with the paper for a couple of years before the Metropolitan Area Projects (MAPs) vote came up. Southside, where I have lived most of my life, is very strong blue collar, and at the time, mostly democrats. The Beacon had been publishing newspapers since five years before Tolstoy died. Since the community didn’t seem to support a subscription based newspaper, the Beacon elected to be a free paper, delivered to every home in South OKC (appx 46,000) every week. The regular Joes and empty nesters frequently voted down bond issues and such and was viewed as a negative area by the "silk shirts" that resided to the north. In short, the issue would fail without the support of the Southside.
I heard many refer to this negativity issue, and I resented it. One day, the President of Southwestern Bell came to visit Dave. I was sitting there when he asked Dave "What’s wrong with the people on the Southside? They are so negative and vote down bond issues. Dave smiled, more to show his teeth than to show his pleasure, "It’s a question of value." Did you catch that? Five words, none more than two syllables. Can he edit or what?
Dave saw the value and decided to support the measure. We were to put out a special publication spelling out all the details and benefits. My role was to generate the funds to get this message out. There isn’t a damn thing free about the press. Dave knew the no vote was always built in. To counter it the choices are to suppress it or increase the yes vote. The vote passed by a narrow margin on December 14, 1993. The Southside also supported it by a very narrow margin.
And now, thirteen years later, you can’t find anybody who voted no. The river we used to mow now has national boat races. Bricktown is shiny and buzzing and full of eateries and classy fashion stores and dance halls. Our new indoor arena just completed hosting a season of professional basketball (a first professional anything for OKC) by the New Orleans Hornets, due to the loss of their stadium from Katrina. Promoter boasts of private investment of $140 million were wildly off the mark; they have topped $500 million. Coffers are full and rainy day funds are being created. I’m so fuckin’ proud I could just bust. The word for this success is "progressive".
My next project is:
How To Build A World Class Civilization.
Can I get a little help over here?
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OFG!!!!!
Fitz!
Yay OFG!
OFG — thanks SO much for doing this article for us. This is such a great success story, and I hope it serves as some inspiration for everyone else about what a small group of concerned people who work together toward a goal can really accomplish. Good on you guys!
TROLL
(And for any other idiots who haven’t bothered to notice that we’ve been a little preoccupied on this blog for the past week, see here for a response.)
Interesting — each project seemed trivial, but together they resulted in something a lot bigger.
I’m lucky in that I live in the triangle area of North Carolina — defined by three cities (Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill), and while Durham has quite a few problems, on the whole the area is fairly robust.
Hey oilfeildguy,you rock!
here’s my just EPU’d comment,may be of intrest.
I’ve just gotten ahold of a interesting suvey.The Republican Senate Majority Leader’s Survey,given to me this morning,with a request for ME to fill it out.Hahahahaha!My response was “Are you shure?You may be on a list by the time I’m done”.Keep in mind this guy is a Republican.His next question;”Where do I go to regester as a Democrat?”My friend,welcome to the fold.
Keep the faith,firedogs
CHS,
Thanks for the encouragement to write about this. Elections have consequences and true visionary leadership is a breathtaking thing to behold.
Good post about the history of downtowns revival. As a resident of Norman I lived through all you have written of and it is truly a whole new world downtown. Now if we could do something about the nations “worst daily newspaper” we could work on that World Class Civilization.
Thanks, OFG!
Dave knew the no vote was always built in. To counter it the choices are to suppress it or increase the yes vote.
Which way did Dave choose, and how did he work it?
OFG, congrats and great post! And a beautiful pic.
DMM, I’m a little unclear on your message; is this a friend who gave you the survey?
UncleFoonman,
Owner, E. K. Gaylord passed away, but before doing so he passed the reins to his daughter, since his son wants to be a cowboy at the Lazy E Arena. I have noticed, since the chicks are now in charge, (winking at VG) the editorial page is more right down the middle. The old guard is gone. And the Ladies have a different worldview. The change is coming.
asdf — you are not going to spam our comments repeatedly with the same cut and paste blather. Either read the above response from me and move on, or I’m going to have to ban you. Take your pick — spamming comments here is a banning offense.
lotus,
Dave is a master. He primarily focused on the affect on property values. The results showed that the no vote stayed home. With such a longstanding history in community, the paper was welcomed into the homes like an old and trusted friend.
I don’t oppose the grass roots approach to activism. You know.. all politics is local etc.
However, as a nation we have some big issues which need a larger approach. It need not be top down, but it has to be broad and “connected”. The net has provided the opportunity to make this sea change.
However, we need to do more than talk to each other via our PCs. We need to come together face to face… and establish all sorts of projects which can be enacted locally.
YearlyKos was a glimpse of how the first steps to the future of people power will look. MoveOn is yet another example of broad based activism.
And many of the critical issues we face ARE cross state, cross border issues… war and peace… the environment… the economy… human rights… health care… constitutional rights…voting rights… and the list goes on.
The FDL community like some others is loaded with brilliant and motivated people from around the country who can and will lead this change. They need to work together and get the “boots on the ground” to raise the consciousness of the nation and to get the people’s needs addressed.
We need stronger labor unions and weaker corporations! We need a media which speaks the truth rather than one that fills OUR AIR WAVES with BS and nonsense. We need to stand up progressive candidates and get them the support to be elected.
We have the net now and we are coming together and those at the top of the pyramid can feel the rumbling at the base… that rumbling is US. We have our citizen “tom paines” spread throughout the land.
Let’s do some brainstorming and plan some real action… a take back our government strategy.. a dream fulfillment strategy.
Ready?
Leslie ni CA,
yes
I’ve got repug friends too
Thanks again, OFG.
What’s the population of OKC these days?
Great story OFG. I especially liked this part “We were to put out a special publication spelling out all the details and benefits. “
People don’t really live and die by soundbites. But too often no one really wants to take the time to dig in and explain things in a workable fashion to all the people who will be impacted. They want a fast quick emotional sway, or to have people feel as if they are not going to be able to understand and participate – so they “have to” leave it up to others.
I see this happen all the time, from lawyers & doctors on through the system. It’s always a recipe for bad decisions IMO. Give people information and they surprisingly and amazingly often not only make “the right” decision, they expand the decision universe.
Congrats to you and Dave.
DefJef,
Te community paper I refered to was “every home, every week” and received as an “old and trusted friend. I am not a big fan of phone banks and direct mail to registered voters–a strategy of diminishing returns. I am going door-to-door in my neighborhood conducting a “voter participation drive.” As a neighbor, I am a non-threat, just a concerned neighbor. I am extending a personal invitation to those getting so creamed by this administration, they have no time to even think about politics. To the single mom across the street–register and show me your card and I’ll mow your lawn for the season–shit like that.
Oilfieldguy,
So when are you going to run for public office?
I’m serious.
Hey if I can do it, you can do it.
Hurray, OFG! Beautiful deeds. As we keep on building, as Glenn Greenwald noted to us at his last booksigning gathering in Cambridge Drinking Liberally, those plundering our national coffers will push back. They are recognizing that we pose a threat and the Net Neutrality is but an opening salvo in what most indubitably will get very nasty. Let’s all hold hands as we face the storm.
Lotus,
Include the whole metro and you get about a million people.
Egregious,
I have no desire to run for office. I think I’m better suited at helping others to do so.
OFG,
Just think about it for the future, that’s all I ask.
I have a DUI. That qualifies me for President.
Oklahoma City has a lot to be proud of. Nice piece of writing, dude.
DMM, keep talking with your R friends like that and you won’t have many left. ;)
OFG,
Thanks for a great article. It’s inspiring because it’s a great recent American success story, it’s about a locality that won big on a visionary policy, and it’s about the power of public investment.
Also, I love the idea of water taxis.
Seriously, for you Sunday morning FDL addicts: remember that bitter editorial from The Stranger, “The Urban Archipelago,” right after the 2004 elections?
Article here: http://www.urbanarchipelago.com/
It’s angry and half of the argument looks over-the-top now, i.e., yeah, we need to care when they restrict choice in Red States, and we can’t retreat to our hip urban spaces and let the regressive social policies self-destruct “out there in the heartland.”
But the positive half is still worth considering: why not think about cities as a unified group, a demographic area to develop?
“We’re going to demand that the Democrats focus on building their party in the cities while at the same time advancing a smart urban-growth agenda that builds the cities themselves. The more attractive we make the cities–politically, aesthetically, socially–the more residents and voters cities will attract, gradually increasing the electoral clout of liberals and progressives.”
If you drop the needless antagonism, or the metaphorical middle finger the authors shoot to rural America, are there some good arguments for this? Is it a good strategy to think about blueing the red states by expanding from the cities outward?
BTW, the picture is of the riverwalk we built in the shabby and virtually abandoned bricktown warehouse district with the world-class ballpark in the background. Sure cleaned up nice don’cha think? The only link I provided in the story leads you to the MAPS homepage, with pictures of each project in various stage of development. It was truly a massive undertaking.
OFG: The link at the bottom returns a 404 error message.
Fascinating. What are the home prices like there in OKC? Do they have room for, say, biotech and other software-style jobs? I’m coming from Nashville, originally, where they talked a big game, but never could get a lot of software jobs there. Then Dell moved in, and apparently there became quite the market for the CS job. After Nashville was Pittsburgh, which tried to do a similar program of downtown renovations, but everyone hated it. The natives of Pittsburgh seemed confused to have one of the world’s best electrical engineering and CS schools in the world (Carnegie Mellon), but a really low student retention rate. They built a stadium or two in the hopes that that would retain people, not realizing that most CS people (at least, the CS people I know, myself included) really couldn’t care less about sports.
DMM – just to be clear, I meant they’ll all be Ds instead of Rs!
Bekham bent it…….
Yeah-ain’t it great?
OFG, the MAPS main page says “The First Nine Projects.” Are others planned?
OFG I am a strong believer in working in the grass roots with our neighbors… door to door. YES
But we need some sort of “coordination” of important issues which face the nation and they too must be worked at in the grass roots.
We need tools which can be used at every meeting and street corner… in every coffee shop chat.
We need to use our connectivity on the net to reach into the roots. I am seeing only a smattering of “actions”… and believe we could do much more.
The CTG project was a great idea… targeting our existing representatives… a warning shot across the bow to let them know the troops are (us) coming.
And it is thrilling to read accounts such as in this diary to see how positive change IS possible and IS happening.
What I am getting at is we need some sort of “template” projects which we can inspire the troops with to whip up the consciousness and advance the progressive agenda. We need materials to spread through the nation with our message… materials which interests anyone who looks at it… motivates all to do the little bit which may be to vote.. may be to volunteer… may be to write a letter to the editor.
I see how we are able to mobilize action within the netroots. We need to bridge that to the grass roots… that is my point.
I sense the net roots, the lurkers are psyched and ready to spring into action.. they need marching orders… the will is there.
No?
Those that actually deal in reality seem to be running from the Republicans
Curious in Central Texas,
That’s my homepage, it’s always listed at the bottom of my emails, which is how I got the story to CHS. Must have been garbled in translation. Just click on my name in any comment I make and it will take you to the same place.
Excellent post OFG, thanks for the encouragement.
LA Times has an essay on the GOP’s highly effective use of their voter database. Worth reading to see what they are doing and what we need to do to either counter or become highly skilled.
http://www.latimes.com/news/op…..t-opinions
While you’re there, check out the front-page article on the accelerated melting of Greenland’s ice cap.
http://www.latimes.com/news/na…..-headlines
And to put the quash on any good feelings you have left on this perfect Sunday, the front-page headline is over 500,000 Iraqi death toll…
http://www.latimes.com/news/na…..-headlines
Way to go OFG
I’m active in my county dem office and help out when they call upon me, but with two kids, my own business, and various volunteer stuff, I often feel overwhelmed.
But I’m going to sign onto the netroots project here in Maine and see what more I can to to help.
Thanks for the inspiration.
Leslie,
No, with the completion of the Library two years ago, MAPS is considered complete. New projects may arise, but the sales tax that financed them, after a six month voter approved extension has been retired to resounding success.
R.D. – that makes for a very interesting tie with the original post.
The concept of :The more attractive we make the cities%u2013politically, aesthetically, socially%u2013the more residents and voters cities will attract, gradually increasing the electoral clout of liberals and progressives.”
Has a lot to be said for it. One big issue is that, on a local level as well as a national level, there is always a drift towards corruption and cronyism in contract awards and development plans. But cities are a legitimate place to initiate plans that state and federal legislators are failing to adopt and address. Even small cities can undertake things like low cost/better access wireless that ends up creating value for the area.
OFG,
“but the sales tax that financed them, after a six month voter approved extension has been retired to resounding success.”
so much for the right wing meme about cities never voluntarily giving up tax authority, eh?
mmr,
property values have indeed increased, but in relation to other cities/states, they remain extremely cheap. Dell just located a corporate complex, right on the river of course. Things are happening fairly quickly around here now.
OFG: This was a perfect story for a summer Sunday morning. I liked the mix of macro overview and the personal vignettes of how it was brought to be. Thanks for putting it together!
Mary: I read your #127 on the earlier thread to my wife, who’s an active birder. She said to say thanks, so here you are from both of us. Please give our best to the heron.
Mary 41 … I just re-read the essay that I linked to, and if you drop all the fightin’ words, I really like it. I don’t like all the implications of concentrating just on cities, but I like the idea that urbanites and the Democratic Party should naturally go together. That doesn’t mean urban has to stand in opposition to rural, but it should mean that good governance begins at home. And if big cities can become models for smaller communities, then we can stop being so defensive about the role of government and public investment.
It’s critical, as you point out, to police the process to minimize corruption and cronyism. One way to do that is for ordinary citizens to stay informed and involved, right?
OFG, do people in Oklahoma City now respond to statements like “I hate taxes!” with reasonable remarks like, “well, taxes brought us MAPS”?
OT,
Thanks to all the doggies who helped last night in the redraft of my letter to the editor at the Anchorage Daily News. Here’s what I sent them this morning:
“I was surprised to see an article about Ann Coulter’s most recent book below the fold on page A1 of Tuesday’s Anchorage Daily News. She’s hardly a credible author. Time and again she has insulted veterans. She was fired from employment at MSNBC for saying to a paraplegic veteran, according to Coulter, “people like you caused us to lose that war.” She has recently insulted Max Cleland and John Murtha, and has accused John Kerry of inflicting his own wounds in Vietnam.
The book which your article promotes through such prominent placement is now being investigated for plagiarism. She is being investigated for felony fraud in Florida in a separate case. These facts could have been researched before you printed the Associated Press article so prominently.
Where have your editorial standards gone? I could imagine the Voice of the Times snidely slipping into the gutter this meretricious purveyor of calumny so easily navigates, but the Daily News? Do you also assent to her racial and cultural slurs against Jews and Muslims? Good grief. It is enough to make a lamb want to scream.”
The Kingpin says: “All your blogs is belonging to me…Lockstep like the Wildhorse Saloon dancers, or I’ll release the rabid lambs to smite thy ass smartly”
Look out, OKC and surrounding counties…OFG seems more ‘progressive’ than kosgressive, IYKWIM…Frothy wool prices going through the floor as we speak
;>)
Mary,
A result of this “inner-city” renewal project has been significant development of trendy (read: pricey) apartment complexes in the area. As far as the corruption thing, which is HUGE, part of the vote included a 12 member citizens oversight and advisory board. Without that inclusion, it would never have passed. Our own hero, Dave Sellers had a chair at that table, and as a result was able to communicate to the people with his paper.
Bravo, ET! Perfect.
Wow,this is such a great model other cities could use.
OFG,is there mixed income housing as part of this renewal of OKC?Or was it all business and public spaces like the sports arena?
Respectful Dissent,
In the words of a wise old sage:
“It’s a question of value.”
OT……Just coming in that the 4 Russian diplomats killed in Iraq, 3 beheaded, 1 shot execution style……Geee I guess we haven’t turned the corner…just awful
An Angry Old Broad,
No housing was built with public funds. Although this was carefully crafted as a”Quality of life” project, in reality this was done for tourism. Sure, we benefit from the projects immensly, but to truly advance you need to do more than just move dollars around inside the bounds of town. You need to bring in new dollars from other towns. That was the unspoken goal of MAPs.
OT…just saw this ;
Amanda Prewitt Doss, ultra-right-wing activist, FReeper, hatemonger, and none-too-skilled “Web designer”, is horrified — simply horrified — that she’s getting angry e-mails about her soon-to-be-lying scam of a Web site even before it’s officially launched!
Democrats.com is on the case:
… Now meet Amanda Doss. She’s one of those people and is about to put up a web site called Murthalied.com which, based on her known alliances with the kings of the bottom feeders, the Swift Boat Liars, will attempt to smear a fine man like John Murtha — and other Veterans, like me, as well — with new and improved levels of low-rent attacks.
But we’re on to her already and she’s rushed her web site into production quickly to spotlight the “…negative, hateful, or inappropriate email” she is allegedly receiving from readers of progressive blogs.
“Shortly after I purchased the domain name MurthaLied.com, my personal information (including where I live, my picture, my client list, and my email address) was posted on several ‘Liberal’ blogs,” whines Doss. “Keep in mind, this information was posted BEFORE I had even created a website for MurthaLied.com.”
She goes on to share the content (and originating e-mail addresses) of “… some of hateful and even threatening emails I have recently received due to these blogs, before this website was even created.” Here’s some samples:
“Please continue to try though, we will bury your threats, expose your lies, and most of all we will make it personal about you too. It is real easy in this day and age to find out people’s spending habits, their comings and goings, and all the little things such as ex-boyfriends, ex-friends, and ex-colleagues in between. We will dig dirt up on you, it has already started. As they say in wingnut land… ‘Bring ‘em on..’”
Here’s another:
“Interesting that a political whore would pick a name like “streetcorner”. I’ve wonder who you’ll be doing on the corner. (ick!).”
This morning, my Baltimore Sun has a lengthy article about the death of a neighborhood, which is in stark contrast to what you’ve written about here, OFG.
The problem, as always, in redevelopment of residential areas is that it tends to push into even worse areas those who cannot afford to live in the area once it has been rejuvenated. Yes, revitalization is a boon to the city, but where do the people go?
The area which is the subject of the Sun article has a few families who are trying to maintain a quality of life for themselves and their families, in the middle of row after row of abandoned and boarded up homes, amid street corner after street corner of drug dealers, and with little or no normal outlets for shopping and other services. They do the best they can with what they have, because they cannot afford to move.
Now, do I think a revitalization plan needs to provide a place for the drug dealers and street thugs? No. But the people and families who have struggled to hold onto some semblance of middle-class life ought to have a place in the upgraded area, and the challenge for urban planners is not turning a blind eye to this part of the picture.
Ahh,ok,thanks.
Atlanta has undergone so many projects in the last 20 yrs,but they all seem to be corporate centered,and to attract the tourism dollars(hence the enormous aquarium that just opened here).While this cleans up the city somewhat(though our infrastructure is falling apart),it displaces working class and poor families.I’ve seen some retail/business/residential combo stuff being built,but it’s a rare thing.
I’m just wondering if it doesn’t make sense to provide working class people with affordable housing within these projects because those are the people who make a city run.If you live close to work,you’re more likely to be there and on time,have a short way to get back home,have less traffic to fight and so on.I can see alot of advantages,but wonder what the disadvantages would be.
OFG @ 51, ah, of course.
As your story also points out, it’s a question of building consensus and convincing people like Dave the Sage to adopt the cause. That brings us back to issues like media consolidation and how one can break through the soundbite culture to present one’s case.
So, what are the intervening steps between building a world-class city and a world-class civilization?
Anne,
What you are referring to is “Urban renewal” and OKC indeed has a sorry history of it. This project did not contribute to displacing low-income housing. One in the near future will. I-40 runs through downtown OKC on a two or three mile long bridge. The bridge is wore out. The plan is to relocate I-40, put it on grade two miles south along the banks of our no-need-to-mow river. Many low income families will be displaced from that.
OFG -
What a wonderful piece! I had no idea this was going on in OKC. Back in the ’80’s (I was there for the Penn Square Bank collapse and its consequences, right in the oilpatch), I spent a lot of weekends and other time in “the City”. I was living and working as a legal services attorney in Western Oklahoma. I never would have predicted such a project(s) could be put together in OKC. The effects of intelligent planning and leadership, indeed.
I wish we could get it together in my current home, San Antonio, where the original Riverwalk is getting ruined by chain restaurants that drive out the local businesses, and where our government constantly gives up the tax rebates demanded by companies, only to see them pack up and leave the minute the tax deferment expires. They never seem to learn.
It’s good to know that it can happen. Thanks!
OMG OFG – a renaissance man, who knew ?!?!?
just now e mailed a copy of this to our small town mayor
although we live out ‘in the country’, the little town we moved in to 3 years ago is ‘blowing up’ as one of the fastest growing exurban areas in the country (actually saw my rooftop from a CNN helicopter camera about a year ago)
anyway, I sent it to hizzonner more as inspiration than anything else – let’s be pre emptive, involve the community as it builds shall we ?
OFG, great post!
I lived in OKC in the early 80’s for a while. I’ve visited often through the last twenty years and saw the town really suffering. Last year was my first visit to Brick Town. I loved it. It’s beautiful, it’s fun, it has history and it’s full of proud Okies. Congratulations of such a great success.
oh, and by the way -
Swiftboat gal – Meet Iceberg !
Respectful Dissent,
See my coment @8:57. An army of neighbors concerned about their neigbors. Republicans vote. People wondering how to “put food on the family” and worrying about their light bills have little time to worry about politics. Just do your block, that’s all I’m saying. And then do it again, and right before November mid-terms do it again.
As this is FDL’s blog, I felt a bit of snark was mandatory in this post. Did anybody notice the “Dubya’s sandbox” and “Baja Oklahoma” jabs?
Denver has done much of the same, but on a much larger scale. It started with the new airport and new convention center in the 1980’s, after the collapse of the oil boom — but it has continued far beyond that, with very little corporate subsidy.
Of course, Denver is an overwhelmingly Democratic city, and I don’t think the voters have ever turned down a bond issue. And even though our residential property values are higher than the suburbs, our property taxes are lower — due to our more diverse tax base.
The downside is that in 1996, Denver was one of the most affordable cities in the country — now, we are one of the least affordable. We have the highest home values of any city in the country, that isn’t on water. It’s not like New York or California, but it’s tough for working stiffs to afford a home. Foreclosures are rising in all market sectors, but the entry level is the worst.
The haves and have mores are doing great — the have less and have nothings are struggling.
Still, Denver and the Front Range are a great place to live — The Queen City of the Plains, The Gateway to the Rocky Mountain Empire.
tejanarusa,
When the Bricktown Canal first opened, only one restauraunt with balcony seating existed; Chelino’s.
When I first met Marcelino (Chelino) Garcia, he had just converted an old Dairy Queen into a mexican restauraunt on my ad beat. I woke him up from sleeping at one of the tables and said I would like to talk to you about advertising. He said, “Yes, I need advertising berry berry bad.” He now owns about a dozen restauraunts. Don’cha just love a success story?
OFG,
Daily lurker & Oklahoma native here. Thanks for a little taste of home this afternoon. One of my first jobs was waiting tables down in Bricktown right after MAPS when “Bricktown” was just a couple of restaurants on Sheridan. I’ve since moved out of state, but my family is still there, and for a conservative bunch of folks (who surely voted “no” back in the day), they’re awfully proud of Bricktown, as they should be. Every time I go back it gets better and is more integrated into the identity of the city, and “identity” is something OKC always needed.
OFG at 67 — I love those sorts of stories. I used to do a lot of small business representation when I was in private practice — and my husband does quite a bit of that now — both of us are huge fans of people who work their butts off and make something happen. Thanks so much for sharing that tidbit. What a Sunday smile. :)
Ah, Chelino’s! That balcony (and, er, the margaritas) made double shifts at my restaurant bearable. Thanks again for the trip down memory lane!
OFG & RD – the interplay of your comments really does stir the pot on the local level of the whole sets of issues on the nat’l level that can seem more daunting and overwhelming.
The connections between freely available information, oversight, means to dissemeninate information – all as supporting the delivery of value to the community. With ineptitude of inefficienciess with any of those without fail also contaminating the others – poor information makes oversight meaningless, no oversight insures improper use of, or disregard for, information, good information and a good oversight situation are cast adrift when the information delivery system to the citizens is unavailable, incorrect, propagandized, etc. so that the programs have no support.
Hopping over to the urban renewal front, this is one of those areas that is so frustrating for me. WHile I’m not a tax&spender (really, truly) in general, the fact is that good government today involves a tremendous amount of infrastructure that did not exist once upon a time. As a result, there have to be infrastructure repairs, maintenance and replacement approaches and they will, of necessity, be big. THat means they need lots of oversight, but also that they need a proper place in prioritization.
Never will you realize the same benefit from a corporate dividends tax cut as you will from an investment in urban renewal, enhanced education, updated and upgraded sewers, roads, levees, bridges, etc. One of the big problems with our current debt is not just that it exists, it is that it was run up without – to coin OFG – creating value.
A big debt – on a home, or a vehicle that can get you to and from work, or an education that will eventually pay off in jobs, or an operation that will allow you to continue to work, etc. – those are debts of a very different kind and nature than big debts run up at restaurants and on vacations and giving away gifts to cronies.
We also haven’t begun, with all that debt, to address one of the number one issues of crime and loss in our society – drugs. Here in So Ind, meth labs and meth addicts are all over. Drug crimes seem to overload dockets and prisons here, and no real effect approach is underway.
This is actually one area where I would be glad to see someone like Brad Ellsworth (up against Hostettler here – but Ellsworth’s very very conservative for a Dem candidate) go to Congress. He is “frontlines” aware of how big this issue is here at home and I know will fight on this one. As long as drugs continue to be such a problem, the blight will be a speedy fate for poor neighborhoods, no matter how much is spent in time and effort to revamp them.
Not really a very insightful or to the point post – more a Sunday morning ramble.
A good solid positive message of possibilities was my aim. We sorely need it to get fired up for the midterms. Just compare this post to the opening salvo of the Republican campaign. Seven saps whining it’s all about the man keeping you down, only to be infiltrated by the man and punked for headline homegrown terrists. Meanwhile Sanitorium screams eureka. Fear versus hope. I appeal to the better angels of mankind. Hope with resolve.
OT, but if you have not seen An Inconvenient Truth you are denying yourself one of best non-Hallowe’en horror-shocker movies of all time.
With Al Gore.
And today’s L.A. Times substantiates one of the main points that Gore makes in the movie: The ice over Greenland is starting to slip into the sea on global warming ball bearings of melted water. The seas will rise 20 feet and we’re gonna lose half of Florida plus lower Manhattan, and that’s just the most dramatic part of the looming disaster.
Electing a Democratic majority in Congress could be the start of getting off our fannies and saving our children’s planet. (We are no longer talking about events so distant that they will affect only our grandchildren.)
Prof at 73 — It isn’t playing here as yet. I’m going to have to pick up the book and wait for the DVD I’m afraid. SIGH Living in the hinterlands has its advantages — but the trade-off is that I only get art house/foreign/documentary films via DVDs for the most part.
Investing in infrastructure pays dividends. The GOP Big Lie is that taxes are bad — like all of the other BS the GOP peddles, the truth is far different.
While paying taxes might be unpleasant, the benefits of wise taxation and government spending benefit everyone.
On the other hand, the Borrow and Squander policies of George Bush and the Rubber Stamp Republicans are doing more to destroy this country than anything in our history.
George Bush and the Rubber Stamp Republicans are a bigger threat than terrorism; they are a bigger threat than illegal immigration.
George Bush and the Rubber Stamp Republicans want to destroy the fabric of American Society, so that the haves and have mores can live in splendor, while average Americans sink deeper and deeper into debt and wage slavery.
*waving to Mr. Smith*
OT al-Scooter, I’m glad you both enjoyed it. I can see where birding could get into your blood.
OT – This made me think of Jordan and some of his posts here, as well as the issues of sunshine in govt and information. http://www.yubanet.com/artman/…..7885.shtml
CREW (along with POGO, two great watchdog groups IMO) has had to file suit to get FOIA request information from the Dept of Labor. (Does ANYONE in this administration respond to FOIA requests without forcing lawsuits anymore?)
Richard Berman and his “Center for Union Facts” (I know JB has written about them but I’m not sure if that was in posts here or not) is an anti-Union group that doesn’t really disclose much about its funding. In any event, Chao’s DOL has gotten very cozy with anti-Union Berman and they were not too interested in turning over the written evidence of that to CREW. But a recent ruling made some of the info available.
The documents include an email indicating that Lynn Gibson[of DOL} set up a meeting between Berman and DOL staff. In another, Ms. Gibson tells a CUF staff person that she will send out emails related to CUF’s website to her “network.” Additionally, the e-mails obtained by CREW and sent out by DOL staff, include an op-ed drafted by Berman, anti-union newspaper accounts as well as anti-union blogs and news releases
Another round of litigation is on tap bc DOL has continued to refuse to turn over docs directly implicating (uh, I mean “relating to”) Chao. Claiming privilege, DOL has withheld e-mail correspondence including correspondence from Secretary Chao, that directly refer to Berman and his organizations.
The watchdogs – ACLU, POGO, CREW, etc. – are working overtime, against much better funded private entities, and sadly againt our own DOJ, which is being used more and more by the administration as its own private firm.
More OT – I no longer believe that Russ Feingold is actually a Democrat. I don’t know WHAT he is, but we need lots more of it/them.
ck,
The mask is torn and the “tax and spend” liberal meme no longer holds water. Eight years of Reagan, 4 years of Bush senior, 8 years of Clinton and now Dubya. In the last Quarter of a century, where can you find a budget surplus?
What a wonderful post and outcome for OKC, OFG and I really appreciate you hanging around for the interaction! As I have traveled around, I notice how desperate so many of our cities have become in our country. The burbs are looking ok, but the cities look abandoned and neglected– we are living in the bombed out futureworld of Blade Runner. I was reading Juan Cole yesterday about the “terraists” in Miami and though the whole piece is a fantastic read, this stood out and goes toward building that world class civilization where we recognize that people need jobs, hope, health care, hope, education, hope, housing, hope, a clean environment and self respect– everywhere.
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The sister of one was just on MSNBC saying that he deeply resented Bush spending money to drop bombs on poor people who could not defend themselves, while depriving the poor in the United States of any support. “We are not capable,” she said. This is a theory of class war, connecting the poor of Kut with the poor of Miami’s inner city. The city, by the way, has horrific levels of unemployment.
The position of the poor and workers in particular is deteriorating in the US, as more and more of the privately held wealth is concentrated in the hands of a white, privileged, few. The unions have been gutted, the minimum wage is inadequate, and racist attitudes are reemerging on a worrisome scale. Cities such as Detroit, New Orleans and Miami continue to witness enormous strains coming mainly from racist attitudes. In this case, the best counter-terrorism would be more social justice.
http://www.juancole.com/
scroll down to Friday the 23rd post!
Oilfieldguy says:
June 25th, 2006 at 9:23 am
I see what Curious in Central Texas is referring to. To correct the error message, please add a forward slash just to the right of the colon in your link at the bottom. Once it looks like this – http://kittenstomper.blogspot.com/ – all should be well.
Can anybody gues what party former OKC Mayor Ronald J Norick belonged to?
Thanks, Stephen — fixed the html — links ought to work now. :)
OFG, your debut on firedoglake is a great success, and has opened a new area of discussion for us — the investment we all must make in the commons. Thanks for this story about a group of determined citizens who weren’t ready to abandon their home city.
Face it folks, we progressives have a real story to tell — and great storytellers. Thanks, OFG!
thanks OFG, love margaritas and success stories, berry berry much
and am given hope by your observation:
And now, thirteen years later, you can’t find anybody who voted no.
may we in less than thirteen years find no one who voted for Bush!
Christy -
You’re welcome. :)
Cool article about Bricktown. Like Sunhawk above, I have been lucky to live in the Triangle Park area of NC for the past ten years. But in ~1 month I will be moving to Norman, OK (for those of you not in the know about OK, Norman is just 18 miles south of OKC and is the home of The University of Oklahoma). Anyway, I was really struggling with leaving NC until I started spending some time in Norman and getting to know the really wonderful people in the area. Thanks to your article I now have one more very exciting local destination to look forward to visiting! Thanks.
Maybe I’ll get invited back. (shameless self promotion)
ck, I used to work in downtown Denver – it was great to look out the window and see the Rockies, and in half a hour I could be in a state park, hiking. It was weird being so far from the ocean, but the Rockies (almost) made up for it. I really liked Denver – too bad it’s getting so unaffordable.
On Greenland… seems time for Big Oil to do another of those public service ads. I can see it:
“With water, life itself would be impossible. blah blah blah…”
“Until recently this precious compound has been selfishly locked up by Greenland and the Socialist continent of Antartica. Blah, blah, blah…”
“Blah”
“The message is brought to you by ‘Partners for a Wetter World[TM]’. Doing our part to bring water to your doorstep.”
Leslie in CA –
Who said Denver is unaffordable? There are 5 construction cranes within a mile of my house, feeding the loft condo boom. You can still get a 900 sf middle floor unit for under $500k (I think).
Actually, there are hundreds of homes available for less than $200k in my neighborhood, just West of Downtown; but there are also hundreds of listings and sales in the $300-500k range, that were selling for $70-200k ten years ago.
And the mountains are still there — you can kinda sorta see them, on a clear day!
Completely OT, but I just can’t resist that Fitzy snark. The latest in the “spat” over Conrad Black’s finances:
Heh. Indeedy.
Real Estate humor — from my software vendor . . .
http://www.bradfordsoftware.co…..lk132.html
So, did the lambs contract rabies from the moonbats?
Just trying to follow the sickness.
-GSD
Looks like 50,000 is “a number” too.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne…..-headlines
-GSD
OFG, Thanks for the perspective on OKC for those of us who have never visited.
I remember reading about folks abandoning their homes to foreclosure after the oil bust. Lots of perfectly good homes just boarded up because there was no work. I gather things have improved and the city is headed toward prosperity, hopefully with a more diversified economy. Can you talk about this a little?
OFG
Great job.
Urban renewal is a tough sell.
In sales the things that keep coming back are 1. Any monkey can sell a discount. 2. It is a question of value vs. price.
It seems that this can be applied to our country as well. 1. Any chimp can sell a tax cut. 2. Consider the value / ROI for education and heath care. It is an investment in all of our futures.
ck, lol.
John K.
We have diversified through neccesity. Now the oil boom is back and I fear it will be a cowbird. (anybody know about cowbirds?) I too have been pulled back in, and have been “in the patch” going on 8 years, this latest round. The investments in this industry are huge since the profits are so unfathomable. I see alternative fuels as a major need as we move forward. There is entirely too much money in too few hands for a product everyone requires. This sidesteps your issue somewhat, but my knowledge on diversification is really limited. Having a shiny city helps when you bring corporate swells to town for a relocation pitch.
Leslie in CA
This part. . .: The court filing alleged that almost everything prosecutors have been told by Lord Black about his financial situation “has been littered with lies, half truths, mistakes, misunderstandings and legal loopholes.”
. . . made me wonder which party will solicit him to run for Congress. Black, that is.
I order MasterKos to hold next years convention in OKC. Disobey and he’ll receive my patented cheater-pipe shampoo!
OFG,
You’ve got my vote on a invite back!
OFG –
One of the lessons of the last oil bust and the current oil boom, is that in good times the rich get richer, and in bad times they get filthy rich.
Ten to fifteen years ago oil rigs were selling for nickel to a dime on the dollar; nobody was drilling, and everybody was going broke. But those who had the money to buy and store the idle rigs have done great.
Which is why George Bush and Rubber Stamp Republicans don’t care if they destroy the American Economy — the greed heads that own them will make out like bandits either way.
Edward Teller: Richard Rhodes was just on booknotes and he was talking about you.
ck,
And kill the world in the process.
Seas of David? Did Instapundit inspire the Miami 7? Is he being held, handcuffed in an undisclosed location and will he explain the difference, other than dialect, between a tryst and a terrorist?
From TPM:
It seems the new terrorist cell rolled up near Miami was in such preliminary stages of launching their jihad that they hadn’t yet set aside time to become Muslims.
From the NYT: “Neighbors said at least some of the men were in a religious group called the Seas of David that appeared to mix Christian and Muslim beliefs
Hey, ‘pups, just stopping by for a bit prior to going off to do my basketall impersonator schtick.
OFG, U R Da MAN!
My friend Jerry Lopez sent me this link this morning, “A Parent’s Wish,” see
http://parentswish.bluellipse.com/
Pretty cool. I posted the link on my blog and wrote a bit about it down in the Sunday morning update of the current post.
http://santafeandthefatcityhorns.blogspot.com/
Bless you all. Have a great day.
If South Florida is inundated by global warming, the greed heads will make a killing on their Everglades beach front real estate.
In the meantime, the Carlyle Group will buy up the Dutch dike building companies, and make a fortune saving us from our excesses.
Is this a great country, or what?
Mary– Prof Cole had this to say in the article I linked to earlier:
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It seems pretty obvious that they are just a local African-American cult which mixed Judaism, Christianity and (a little bit of) Islam. It seems to be a of vague offshoot of the Moors group founded by Dwight York. I heard on CNN that one of them talked of being Moors. And Batiste, the leader, called whites “devils” in the tradition of the original Nation of Islam and York’s Moors. Now CNN is saying one member said they practiced witchcraft [likely meaning Haitian voodoo or perhaps Santeria-like rituals]. One former member is called Levi-El, suggesting he might be associated with the Black Hebrew movement or an offshoot. Now a relative of one of the members, Phanor, said that they wore black uniforms with a star of David arm patch and considered themselves of the Order of Melchizadek. I wonder if it is “Seas of David” or “C’s of David”, with “c” meaning commando or some such?
OKC, I know alot of people who went to OKC to study various aspects of petrochemical engineering and have always wondered why the city, with it’s close proximity to agrobusiness in outlying states, has not made the switch to alternative fuel refining? Or have they, unbeknownst to me. I imagine that alot of the busted fossil fuel refineries could be upgraded/refitted to take on the processing of these other alternate fuels, heck – they do have the expertise and locality for such an endeavor. Or am I completely off mark on this?
bleh, I meant to address OFG, not OKC at the beginning…lol hangovers suck.
angie – I still think it’s Instapundit’s fault. Army of Davids, Seas of Davids, homegrown terrorists. It’s all Right. ;)
Moors? Levi? I remember the Crusade of Moorish Dignity at the Levy Pants Factory in the book, “A Confederacy Of Dunces.” That sounds about right.
OFG at 67 – that’s a great story. I tried the self-employment gig and learned what a lousy businesswoman I am – so am filled with admiration for those that succeed.
When I get back to OKC I believe I’ll make Chelino’s my first stop.
You’re right about needing “solid messages of possibilities” – sometimes reading the news I am just in despair. Your well-written piece provides a great dose of optimism. Thanks again.
kurotenshi,
The oil boom is back. Nobody around here wants to hear about any cute little “boutique fuels.”
tejanarusa,
I tried the self-employment thing too, and learned if I had five dollars in my pocket I was goin’ fishin’.
OFG at 115 – That made me lol for real.
hmm, I might have to look into OKC then, as I am no longer inclined to return to the ME(for the time being), and Houston has frankly turned into a city I no longer recognize.
LOVE that book that Dru told me to read– I can’t believe it took me so long to meet Ignatius.
I will blame it on Instapundit, too! That settles that. ;)
Denver is a nice little city but it is a farm team town. Everything is derivative with all the problems one would encounter with a copy. The colleges are nothing special. The cultural institutions are impressive only to people who don’t understand the visual, literary, or performing arts. It had to buy a winning sports team. Denver is where people go when they can’t make it in a real city. That doesn’t make it a bad place, but it certainly doesn’t make it a “great city.” And with all the HUD foreclosures coming down the pike, real estate will soon be a bargain there once again.
angie,
never before have I seen so many subplots peopled with such brilliant characters handled so deftly as to not being obvious subplots, only to be tied up and delivered at the end to the brilliant astonishment of the reader. What a great book.
Hi! Before I head out for SF Pride, I wanted to chat-pimp for Monday’s Washington Post. These could be fun. Remember, the chat lines are open now for your questions — being selected seems to be a combination of politeness and promptness, so ask away!
Richard Perle at 11am eastern Monday:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01135.html
Dan Balz, Post Politics, at 11 also:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00584.html
K Street Confidential, Jeffrey Birnbaum will talk about lobbying efforts in the debate over net neutrality at 1pm:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00791.html
OFG! great post!
Redeveloping our cities is such a complicated question – it sure sounds like OKC has done a really nice job with a lot of community input.
Here in Chicago, we see quite a boom but at the same time my wonderful neighborhood is having to fight off the developers who want to clone mall land onto our funky streets. Luckily, Hyde Park is home to a very large activist population and the battle will be well fought.
More about Chelino:
IIRC he slaved in the kitchens of El Chico for years. Prior to that, now don’t hold me to this, but I think he is a refugee of the notorious and hated diamond mines of South America. The more you know about the guy, the more you gotta admire him.
Such a tragedy John Kennedy Toole took his brilliance and his own life. Thank goodness his Mom persevered to get it published years after his death and he won the Pulitzer for it! Truly a masterpiece.
I was an OKC resident when the MAPS vote came up, and was one of the ‘yes’ votes. The changes were well underway by the time I moved out of OKC in 2000.
It’s good to see that things are going well for the city.
Wail the loss or celebrate the contribution. Truly mixed emotions, sorta like watching my ex-wife drive off a cliff–in my brand new cadillac.
Great story OFG. If you ever bring oil to Florida, stop by for a black angus steak. It is men like you that make me proud to be American and I enjoyed your Sunday read.
Across the country there are hundreds of stories such as yours on any given day and if society would only get its act together and behave, then our beloved national spokesmen/sobsisters/journalists/lifesupportsystemsforpatriotism, could use the time spent alerting the public wrt missing white women and runaway brides (is a hard job for a pimp) bringing stories that help to motivate society.
Thank goodness for the internets because right now, OFG, I really needed a story.
I’m so glad that you didn’t include a utube video because I could not get on for hours. The page would load for 15 minutes just to get to the home page. And I wasn’t able to access the comments until the first post this morning.
OFG,
Thank you so much for sharing your post here at FDL. You are truly an inspiration.
You deserve to go fishing now!
but, before you go, fix your links in the post they are reading “not found”
Lizzy says: “but, before you go, fix your links in the post they are reading “not found”"
June 25th, 2006 at 12:35 pm
Christy – the link at the end of OFG’s comments needs to be edited again, please.
links work for me lizzie.
ofg – Escape to Eureka (without sanitorium) for a little fishin’ sometime. Great story. Sure hope the renewal doesn’t wipe out southside without helping many of the residents along the way. I understand a new casino opened up, near or in the racetrack? How is it placed? Hard on the eye?
oh, that link, I think tat just goes to my homepage. Yer right it’s messed up. Oh well, youknow where to find me.
I fixed the links again — please, no one change them. They are currently working — no more edits on the blog links for OFG. Thanks!
All casino’s are gaudy. That’s why we have Vegas. Pooh on all other casinos. Time to eat. Be back later.
What was I thinking or seeing, sorry those links are just fine, OFG :lol:
Way to go OFG.
Very informative and well-written. Nice to get to know you a little better as well.
OFG is a great storyteller in person too – it was such fun to meet him at YKOS and share a few tales.
I must say we have a great group of good men here at FDL – our hostesses sure know how to pick ‘em!
Thanks, Oilfieldguy. Interesting and valuable story. We need the good old progressive Oklahoma back. Good to know folks like you are working hard at it.
agreed, just hoping the didn’t screw up the new area.
Great post OFG. I was born in Enid and we moved to the City when I was 13 in 1951.I grew up with all those beautiful buildings downtown. The Criterion theater.Where I saw Blackboard Jungle and heard my first Rock and Roll,”Rock around the clock”. I wasn’t living in the city during urban renewal but I am still pissed at I.M. Pei for pushing for the destruction of all those beautiful buildings that were built in the 20’s and 30’s. I felt that the City was now a city without an architectual past. I live in Santa FE NM now. But I have a son living in Norman. I think it great what is happening now. And the ballpark is a gem. Love the statue of Mickey Mantle. Have they finished those statues of the Sooners by the river? Again’ nice to see the City moving on.
And when Plato spoke, they all said how well he spoke. And when Diogenes spoke, they marched.
OFG, all this talk of going fishing has brought to mind a favorite song of mine, by David Knopfler (brother of Mark, both of Dire Straits fame), from his “Small Mercies” album (1994)
Going Fishing
One day I’ll go fishing son
When my working days are done
I’ll buy a rod and learn the art
Of how to still a hungry heart
…
Of how to cast off life’s ambitions
Of those things best left undone
Don’t call me for decisions
I’m goin’ fishing with my son
…
That’s about half of it, not sure how much I could put in without straying across the copyright / fair use line. It’s a beautiful, simple song, worth finding and listening to it.
I admire what OKC accomplished. They have had a lot of help, though, from the state government being there. I wish I could say the same about Tulsa. I just moved away from there, and not a moment too soon. All of the businesses have been leaving, and even the oil businesses have now moved their headquarters to Houston.
Tulsa will has had to struggle with the worst mayor in Oklahoma, and thankfully has picked a Democrat for office instead of continuing with the worst.mayor.ever.
Will things work out the same way for Tulsa? I don’t know, but I gave up after putting in 12 years. It didn’t seem to be getting any better to me. I moved to a purple state and will pitch in here, instead.
And, yes, I am part of the educated/entreprenurial Gen-X crowd that Tulsa knows it needs to keep, but can’t seem to get it together enough to more than mouth the words. Right after getting their marching orders from the Oral Roberts/Victory Christian/south side suburbanites. I don’t think they will ever get it together, but I am hopeful that I am wrong.
Oilfieldguy:
Great story about a great success of progressive values! Nice work!
I just about fell out of my chair when I took a minute to catch up on my FDL reading before heading off to a dinner meeting, and saw my Bricktown dinner destination (Mickey Mantle’s, right there in the middle of your image of OKC) instead of the latest Plameology news!
OKC is a gem of a city, and you did a terrific job of explaining why. I moved to this area four years ago, after living for twenty-five years in the greater San Francisco area, and I’ve never regretted doing what I call “the reverse Joad family migration”.
There’s just so much good in this part of the country, whether it’s successful urban development (Bricktown), excellent schools (K-12 and colleges), rich progressive history (the Green Corn Rebellion) or a history of capable political leaders who governed from the center (Carl Albert, David Boren).
There’s plenty that needs work in these parts, but there’s so much more here that’s true and good, and as a happily-naturalized-Okie, I really appreciate how well you have told the story of one of the best things about this part of the country.
OFG – Just got online today and found this excellent, uplifting, thought-provoking post! I’m gonna have to get to you another time (I have a million comments) but the garden requires my attention before the start of a grueling workweek. Your blog doesn’t have a “contact me” link. If you email me with address, I can get back to you later. Because by the time I get back here it’ll will long be EPU’d.
You’ve got my brain going a hundred miles an hour…
“It’s a question of value”.
Perfect.
Yay OFG!
Uncle Foonman, my mom graduated from OU and Norman is where we visited my grandparents every holiday and summer. Very dear memories for me. Welcome!
Oilfield Guy:
I am way, way EPU’d, having sat through the book discussion group and the thread that followed it, now going back to see what I missed earlier.
I was born and grew up in OKC. We lived about half a mile north of the fairgrounds. I don’t know if that made us silk shirts; my father was an engineer and wore white shirts to work but they weren’t silk. We lived across the street from a brick mason and next door to a guy who worked in a meat packing plant.
We could see the lights from the fairground at night, and in the summer, could hear the stock car races. We walked to the state fairgrounds when the fair was in session, they let us out of school to go.
I never spent any time that I can recall south of the river, it’s interesting to hear your point of view about that area. I left there when I was 15 and never knew much about the politics.
Your article makes me want to go check out some of the improvements to OKC next time I am in the area. Good job, and good luck with the OK netroots. Rootz!
I love to hear stories about cultural projects and the public being willing to pay taxes for them, but not for subsidizing sports teams.