I don’t think the White House does any vetting. They didn’t with Bernie Kerik, they didn’t on the ports deal, they didn’t on the Homeland Security allocation of funds. They really don’t do much of anything.

As an aside, this is my first post at FDL. It’s good to be here!

Rootz!

for that matter — what on earth happened to Andy Card? He certainly disappeared rapidly, didn’t he?

David Brooke has written:

“The Keyboard Kingpin, aka Markos Moulitsas Zuniga, sits at his computer, fires up his Web site, Daily Kos, and commands his followers, who come across like squadrons of rabid lambs, to unleash their venom on those who stand in the way,” writes Brooks. “And in this way the Kingpin has made himself a mighty force in his own mind, and every knee shall bow.”

That’s a filthy lie! FDL are the Kingboard Kingpins!.

So, what am I to think about all this? Remember, wherever you people sit is the head of the table. Whatever you say is the way it’s going to be.

Thanks watertiger, great post.

This was cross-posted at Dependable Renegade this a.m. For full disclosure, and all that. I didn’t know Christy was going with it!

BTW, check out Raw Story’s clip of David Brooks getting all pissy on Kos!

My guess is darth cheney and rummy do all the deciding.

Ah, Sonoma beat me to it.

PsiFighter37!!!

No offense watertiger, but we really wouldn’t have to look very hard for an improvement over the “Rexall Ranger”.

David Brooks aiming at Kos but pissing on himself in the New York Times gives a whole new meaning to “yellow journalism.”

I wonder if the Sultzburgers will be amused?

it was very smart of the NYTimes to release an advance copy of the Sunday column of David Brooks. They knew it would ruffle some feathers in the blogosphere and generate a lot of publicity…

The White House does not want to know. It’s called plausable deniability.

I used to think that Reagan was the ultimate delegator. He couldn’t hold a candle to Little Bush.

Love the graphic, BTW.

Heh. A commenter over at Eschaton has dubbed the left blogosphere (jokingly) the Kosa Nostra.

I submit to you – we are also the Yakosa.

Personally, I’d rather see the NY Times release David Brooks . . .

Off topic: Just got back from coffee with herladyship, Jane Hamsher. She is doing well and deeply grateful for all the support. I was able to make her laugh several times, and her laughter fell on my ears as raindrops to a parched earth. I am deeply smitten. Passion without fanaticism, brilliance without ego, pride without arrogance, beauty without vanity…I could go on for days. I had to turn around THREE TIMES to get to my own fucking house! Remember, I’m a truck driver!

watertiger…great post….as for #15, LMAO

In the case of the Homeland Security fund allocations, Bush wasn’t The Decider, he was The Ignorer.

Sonoma @ 1:39 pm (#4) – The Angry Bobo has arrived. I’m sure they’ll sell a few online subscriptions over this one.

I must confess to not reading Kos very much. Does he issue orders? And how much venom do Kossacks have? Inquiring minds and whatnot …

Oilfieldguy,

glad to hear it!

Brooks will of course accomplish what Rove wants; but only somewhat.

Moderates who wouldn’t know a blog from fog will be curious, google dkos, and take a peek.

Traffic will go up. Who knows, exposure may make ‘moderates’ lean left. Just a guess.

Heya watertiger — I didn’t know I was going with it, either, but we had a hitch in the 4:00 pm post giddy-up. And I can’t tell you how much I appreciated having this in the bank as back-up. (My brain is altogether too fried to do coherent snark at this point…)

Great post, btw! :)

Jane’s headed off to CT. Our tireless crusader.

Christy,

Mi casa et su casa! I was working on tomorrow’s post and was terrified that i’d hit “publish” on this post by accident.

Talk about your “heart in your mouth” moment.

to CT? I always thought Jane was our Girl of the Golden West? or is she going to bite the ankles of Joe-nertia?

watertiger: we can pull them back. My Late Nite post accidentally went live a little while ago before I took my head out of my ass.

You do good werk!

Bobo’s just jealous is all.

BTW, Brooks says Kos = Tom DeLay.

This leadership vacuum we have is really depressing. It makes for great jokes and all, but the problems we face are so huge, it’s hard to wrap your mind around all of it. I see a huge opening for someone to point to a brilliant sunrise and say, “Follow me.”

pach,

it was a momentary brain fart. seems to be happening more frequently these days.

i blame the Bush Administration.

Good for you, Oilfieldguy. Did she show you her Kommander Kos slave bracelet?

*ilson

Yeah, she doesn’t want to go home and “rattle around in an empty house.” She is going to throw herself into work and head for ground zero–Joe-nertia’s jugular. Gawd, I almost feel sorry for the whiny little “democrat”.

Re: Brooks

You call that snark?

What a pissant rookie.

If Brooks ever had tried to start out by competing as a blogger, he’d never have made it.

Doesn’t matter so much to us in-front-of-the-curtain types how Watertiger got here, just that she did.

But if Kos = Tom DeLay, does Steve Gilliard = Karl Rove? I think BoBo’s math skills need an upgrade.

neurophius @ 2:02 pm (#32) – Did she show you her Kommander Kos slave bracelet?

Hasn’t she had the implant done yet? The lab must be behind schedule again. Liberals – you just can’t get any work out of ‘em.

‘It is obvious to the most simpleminded that Bush is of an inferior breed.’

;>)

neurophius,

No, I stayed completely away from such topics as those who threw stones at her in her time of grief. I tried to stay on hope and future and positive things. A steely woman shaped like a daffodil.

an empty house? just who is minding the doggies? but if she is going to dog Lieberman, she’d better have a rabies shot … he’s a vicious lil cur !

Jeeebus! “Squadrons of rabid lambs. . .” WTF? Man’s lost his mind. Pitiful.

Just kidding, Oilfieldguy. She has plenty of better things to think about. I’m sure your visit did her good.

Does anybody have a link to the Brooks atrocity, er, article?

She loaded up her dogs and brung ‘em with her! Muddy paw prints in the passenger seat of her car. Priceless. I don’t think Joe wants to get caught in the same county as Jane.

I’m sorry to be off topic watertiger. BTW, I really like the way you write. You got game girl!

rabid lambs? Agnus Kosei ?

Hypatia,

have you never come face-to-face with a rabid lamb?

they’re TERRIFYING! all that downy softness and foaming mouth…

OFG #38:

Those who would desecrate the Sorrow thread lack the energy and/or the skill to deface headstones or rob graves. The real tragedy is that their respective communities’ mental health resources haven’t yet discovered them and delivered the appropriate caregiving. But there’s still hope.

Brooks excreticle.

Maybe Brooks wanted to contribute a recipe for rapid lamb and it just got misprinted?

at best, David Brooks commands squadrons of syphilitic lemmings …

If sheep get caught in the rain does their wool shrink?

Afternoon. Hmmm…..a few days back, little Howie jumped up….today a David Brooke leaps out. I smell the Rover. Karl The Coward Rove. You’re out there, aren’t you, you little coward! Well, draft dodging Karl The Coward Rove….maybe I need to compose another Special Message to you….heh, heh.

Ghostman

neurophius,

I saw it through raw story.

How troubled are the Repugs that they have to swiftboat Murtha, and now Kos?

I guess when Karl “The Weasel” Rove’s only tools are defame and blame, you use the tools you’ve got rather than the tools you wish you had!

You know…stuff like facts and heaven forbid, honesty!

oilfieldguy,

as I told Christy, spending the last year and a half coming up with pithy one-liners about Bush has retarded my growth as a writer. Now I’ve got the attention span of a parakeet.

She and Jane have graciously allowed me to start working the kinks out.

SOME parakeet, watertiger!

Christy, i hope you won’t mind if i say i’m a bit worried about you? please take care of yourself – you’ve been doing a lot of the heavey lifting… don’t know of anything i could do to help (if there is, i’m counting on you to ask)… but i did want to say “thank you” to you and all the guest-posters/behind-the-curtains-moderators/and everyone else who’s pitching in…

i’m sure i’m not the only one who really appreciates all the many efforts… many, many thanks from the peanut gallery…

Thanks, Watertiger.

My only question after reading the Raw Story article is, what do I have to do to relieve my “squeaking fury?” Squeak squeak…

Well, stretch them legs girl. I know talent when I see it. You coulda been me and spent five years writing ad copy.

I suspect this whole “Townhouse” listserv nonsense is going to be the right-wing blogosphere’s equivalent of Whitewater.

watertiger – i wish you WERE the president, instead of the one we’ve got.

What hilariously atrocious writing. This could be the model for a “‘Twas a dark and stormy night. . .” contest for pontifical writing. Rabid venomous lambs. I can’t stop giggling.

selise,

the republicans would hate my socialist tendencies.

I don’t see anything wrong with the kids at the big table trying to get a handle on the message. Wingers have used think tanks and wingnut training bootcamps for years. They are hugely well-financed to grow a new crop of wingnutlets and place on the payroll for the express reason to fatten the coffers of the paymasters. Just look at the huge hole in the ground that used to be our full treasury when Bill Clinton left office. The wingnut welfare system has paid off in spades. We need a battle plan to put forth a coherent message and dialogue to steer this country a’right. So, by all means, compare notes.

OFG — I just want to point out that you never spoke about me that way after we met at YKos. *sniffle* It’s okay, though, my girlish pride can take it. *wipes eyes* *g*

Best comment so far from the DKos diary on Brooks:

Ewe will be assimilated.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I gotta go re-leash my venom before it wanders down the block and leaves something in a neighbor’s flower bed.

That’s okay. I hate Republicans.

btw, there seems to be a concerted pushing back from the right on another of the straight-talking, naked emperor fronts.

Jon Stewart, it appears, is poisoning democracy.

Just a word on all these attacks on Kos – I find the sources esp. interesting indeed with the so-called “liberal” media being the attack dogs out in front – this is not coming from the rightwing blogosphere but from a small circle of establishment print “liberals” supportive of Lieberman, etc. and we need to stay aware of that. The rightwing flare-ups are simply piling on after the TNRs, etc do their thing.

They cannot understand the open source nature of the wider community and they are very very threatened by what we did at Ykos, Markos’ great media appearances, and what we are all continuing to do. Since they don’t get the open source thing, they think that attacking Markos will somehow diminish the force of our all work – how little they understand! They can only imagine that our model must be as limited as theirs …

We did demand (and we promptly got) a correction from the NYT over an attempt to portray YKOS as corrupt … they did not understand the independence of YKOS at all but did a good job of correcting once the point was made.

But the sources of the continuing attacks should be carefully noted and remembered – Brooks is simply using a tale that our supposed allies are inventing.

First they ignore you
then they laugh at you
then they fight you
then you win.

At the third stage already! That was fast!

I suggest Kos come out with a T shirt with some clever phrase taking advantage of his hypnotic power over us all, and really rake in the dough.

It’s utterly disheartening to realize that the person you described – and altogether too kindly – is the President of the United States. And it’s embarrassing, to boot.

What I cannot understand is why – why – anyone would think he was the right guy to maneuver into the White House. Was this just a grand Machiavellian scheme to allow Karl Rove to strut his stuff and get Cheney and Rumsfeld into positions of power? Is Bush just the useful idiot?

It’s one thing to laugh at Will Ferrell doing his Bush impression; it’s another thing to feel like your president isn’t even capable of doing a good parody of an intelligent person. Nothing funny there.

CHS,

Did you not read what I wrote about you? (from memory)

CHS, unfair for such grace and wisdom to be placed in a vessel so young. On her brow rests wisdom, in her hand sits grace.

I need to watch my attempts at prose, it might come out some day sounding like…

Out west, where you vacation, the Aspen leaves will all be turning. They turn together, because their roots connect them.

Nah, I’ll never suck that hard.

It occurs to me that Brooks, if he actually believes what he’s writing, probably thinks we’re like the lemmings from the Parents Television Council, generating thousands of complaints to the FCC on command. Another case of projection — the right it entirely authoritarian, with a top-down command structure and obedient dittoheads, so he assumes the rest of the world (I won’t fall into the trap of calling it “the left,” since it’s so much broader than that) must work the same way. If there are people who are getting on TV (like Kos), then they must be the leaders, and all the rest of us must be mindless followers, obeying his every command.

Of course, being able to sustain that viewpoint while simultaneously believing that we’re in disarray and unable to agree on anything is a sign of a seriously twisted mind…

It seems to me that the President’s job requires one who delegates but than reviews the job that the delgatees are doing.

Bush has delgated the job of President to Cheney and the rest of the Gov’t is being run by Bush and Cheney cronies with no experience in the jobs they are doing and no oversite.

Also, if you’re a delegater you need more than “Yes” men telling you what is going on. In this administration, truth is a job liability.

Hey if Jon Stewart is poison, I don’t want the antidote!

Christy at 64:

As any of us Irishmen know, redheads are the best!

Erin Go Bragh!

Potato(e) eatin’ Irish over here!

That Jon Stewart story that Watertiger cited above describes what sounds like some pretty wacky research.

The writer says, “Two political scientists found that young people who watch Stewart’s faux news program, “The Daily Show,” develop cynical views about politics and politicians that could lead them to just say no to voting.”

That is interesting. I guess I figured that a lot of young people who watch The Daily Show do so BECAUSE they already have cynical views about politics and politicians.

I’d kill for Christy’s hair color.

No, seriously. With my bare hands.

BTW, watertiger, are as hot as your picture shows?

Well, alla us potato(e) eaters are in luck today, ‘cuz downstairs folks are still arriving with more stories and food, and pulling up more chairs!

I’m patiently waiting for the TNR-NR merger. Two subscription lists, one POV. Think of all the costs to be taken out. (Yeah, I’m lookin’ at you, Jonah.) Might be a money-maker yet, even without the Star Trek get-ups.

When you have government by Laurel and Hardy every day you’re going to laugh before you cry.

David Brooks pines for the good old day when all could be explained away knowingly as the scheming machinations of the Elders of Zion or Kremlin spymasters (or did he repeat himself?)

Brooks, like a lot of others who hog the cameras as they bobble their tiny little heads to and fro, probably wouldn’t know a blog if one leaped out of his computer and bit him on the nose. They think they can weigh in on the basis of seeing someone like Markos in a medium – television – that they are familiar with.

What he doesn’t realize is that more and more, many no longer believe that being on television imbues someone with credibility, or elevates what is said on the TV to the level of truth.

I think it bothers them that we have gone elsewhere, and he and others like him are being kind of snitty about it.

oilfieldguy,

eye of the beholder and all that!

David Brooks

rabid lambs

Yea, he should know. How much you wanna bet he’s a guest on Faux “News” tomorrow.

Disclaimer:
Hope hopes this offends no one and that its’
new to someone who checks it out. It puts me in a good mood and makes me laugh. Feel free to sing along, I’ve memorized the lyrics already.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..arch=fucks

The attack on Kos is part of a pattern. The telecom companies attack bloggers by trying to abolish net neutrality. “Miss Piggy” Rove gives a speech blasting bloggers, with their “anger” and “hate.” TNR attacks Kos–perhaps the most prominent blogger of the left–and other bloggers it portrays as his blind followers. And right wing trolls swarm FDL with messages of hate. This convergence may not be an accident.

Presidenting in the 21st century does require a killer wife, though.

Literally.

Have ya got a killer wife, watertiger?

there was a movie with peter selers…”the garner” or something like that

that’s this presdident

*adjusts tinfoil hat*

Hopie! How you fixed for another round o’ Pinas, girlfriend?

This thread has me dried out again.

Watertiger,

Just had to say how much I’ve enjoyed your site (the giggles per square inch is amazing!), and how pleased to have you posting here as well!

And yes, parakeets are people too! *g*

me to me: Being There

Naptime at LGF seems to be over — some of the tots are cranky, and tossing around their dirty diapers.

Neurophius @ 89:

The best part is, they devolve in personality from ‘earnest’ purveyors of serial logical fallacies to wild-eyed froth flinging behemoths and back, as the rotational call cycle goes around.

Entertainment just doesn’t get better than this

:)

me to me: Being There

ta, that’s it…that’s this president

TeddySanFran @90,

Sad to say, I’ve never run down any of my boyfriends.

Doesn’t mean I didn’t think about it. ;)

That’s a filthy lie! FDL are the Keyboard Kingpins!

Queenpins?

HopeSpringsATurtle at 87:

Billy-boy was kinda hopin’ that sheep would be pointin’ the other way. LOL!

The problem with the “Jon Stewart is poison” article (and perhaps the research is references) is NOT the methods they used to gather evidence. I haven’t checked the details of their methodology, but it appears to be ok.

The problem is the conclusion. Even the author admits that not voting is only one possible effect of becoming more disenchanted with politics (as a result of viewing TDS).

Another possible conclusion is that viewers will become motivated by their disenchantment to vote the rubber-stampers out! It’s absolutely no less supported than the conclusion provided in the article. Both conclusions are pure conjecture, but only one scares the corporo-fascists.

john in sacramento at 86,

My bad! Sorry for giving credit to the wrong poster!

Lotus…Miss Girl you now how your choice between Pinas and Midori Daquaris. We run a ‘tight’ ship on the weekends around these parts…

Watertiger,

I know the point isn’t to be serious but, I think you’re being easy on him.

read this

BTW I agree with OFG, you write well ;)

my god blogs…

can’t just have any common mook com’n in here say’n any ole thing he/she pleases…

screw david brooks he’s a moron. i can’t believe he gets paid so well for such tripe.

who is KOS?

This Brooks thingy reminds me of Mel Brooks in “The History of the World”:

“Sire, the peasants are revolting!”

“You’re telling me. They stink on ice.”

Who is Kos?

http://www.dailykos.com/

I guess CHS ran off. I figured she’d spew at that comment I left.

O-Kos Dei

Eeeny meeeny miiiny . . .

It just goes to show that anyone, by that I mean ANYONE, can be President.

Hopefully she’s napping with her tyke. God knows she needs it.

Things would be way yonder different if I was running things.

Punaise #109

LOL!

I’m binding chain mail around my thigh right now!

“rabid lambs” doesn’t work for me. What does that MEAN? People who follow and are passive (Lambs) but if they bite you they will kill you slowly (rabid)?

Kinda like a zombie panda bear from hell?

Karl????? Come out, little Karl The Coward. I know you’re in there. Come out, you little yellow spineless piece of turd. Sending your little BOYS out to do your dirty work? Because you’re A COWARD!

Tell me, Karl The Coward…look into the future. Years from now. How will your adult family members react when they know: Daddy Karl was a Coward. Uncle Karl was a draft dodger. How does it feel to know that your legacy will be one of…COWARDICE? Well, draft dodger?? Have I got your yellow spine quivering? Got your yellow fat ass shaking??? Ok, ok, draft dodger.

I’ll calm down. You don’t like me in your face, do you Karl The Coward? It’s stressful for you. There, there. I understand. You know what they say…music soothes the soul. So let me play a song for you. Soft, gentle music. There, Karl The Coward. Just…relax. I’m playing a special selection just for you. It’s the theme song from MASH. Isn’t it soft and easy? Now tell me Karl The Coward, tell me again…how do those words go….?

just a reminder to dip back to the Pull Up a Chair recipe thread – there are some amazing/touching stories there.

Oilfieldguy – If you are running things, the FIRST thing you want to do is change those sheets in the Lincoln bedroom, no telling who has been in there.

OK, “rabid lambs” could mean impotent following sheep like critter who snap and slobber on their keyboards to no effect –

But that is clearly NRO?!

So, it’s just not working, Dave….

shooogarp 114
I’m binding chain mail around my thigh right now!

try a chain letter – it’s less painful, and you will be rewarded.

DHS kept the Preznit and his minions in the WH in the dark about anti-terror funding. A very convenient excuse to deflect away any blame that might be directed at Dear Leader. Of course not that any of the lapdogs of the MSM would ever dare to do that.

As Dear Leader’s favorite Democrat, Joe Lieberman, so infamously (and obsequiously) stated: “We undermine the President’s credibility ar our nation’s peril.”

Dissent is not allowed.

That might explain why in 2002 when the Dems controlled the Senate and horse lawyer Mike Brown was confirmed by the Senate as Deputy Director FEMA in 42 minutes before the Committee on Governmental Affairs. Who was the chairman of said committee? Joe Lieberman of course.

Oilfieldguy @ 2:13 pm (#50) – If sheep get caught in the rain does their wool shrink?

Never thought about that before, but I bet it does. It sounds like an evolutionary advantage – if a sheep’s wool doesn’t constrict, it’s probably more likely to become waterlogged, and more vulnerable to predators that don’t know enough to get out of the rain.

Blue dresses for all the chicks. Horn Dog in Chief is on deck. Tennshunn!

Now you jes’ leave them dear panda bears (and scroll down) OUT of this, B’rer Imm.

Punaise -

But, but…but Kos told me chain mail!

*adjusting brain transmitted implant*

Lotus, THAT’s what I am talkin’ about — Butterstick is clearly a rabid lamb. Look at that cutie!

Br’er Imm. (But it’s all Hope’s fault, getting me spelling while intoxicated!)

wow, jon stewart “poisoning democracy” because people who watch his show may “develop cynical views about politics and politicians”?

sounds SO much like samuel huntington in 1975 writing about the ‘crisis in democracy’ due to the decline in public confidence and trust in authority (and fears of lower voter turnout then too) and how this problem somehow had it’s roots in an increase of politically active citizens and an excess of democracy. i think he called it a democratic distemper. anyway, of course, NOTHING to do with a failure of political leadership and RATIONAL disenchantment of the political elite.

It just goes to show that anyone, by that I mean ANYONE, can be President.

Provided you are an inbred offspring from a long line of merchants of death, who financed Hitler, installed Gestapo agents in the CIA, helped kill a president to ignite a war, own the media, have photos of editors in compromising positions, and have journalists kissing your ass every day while saying it smells like a Mr Lincoln rose.

If you’ve got all that going for you, then you too can become preznit — with a 35% JAR.

sheep wool is naturally waterproofed by lanolin … it gets removed by the processing of the shorn wool …

John in Sac at 104 Bravo!

Lefties come out!! Mr Turtle and I are both left-handed and we’ve been saying all along the left needs to take it away from the right. Period. Would love to know who else is lefty (literally) out there…

I cannot abide my shame any longer. The truth must come out.

In order to be admitted to YearlyKos, I was forced to submit to having the letter “K” branded onto my butt with a glowing hot coathanger. Ouch!

W is, at best, Chauncy Gardener’s evil twin. Chauncy Gardener in Being There was a harmless simpleton on whom people projected their beliefs about the meaning of his utterances. He never had any illusions about being the things those people saw in him. W ardently believes he’s in charge, believes he’s just as smart as all those eggheads who have actually studied diplomacy and the Middle East and counter-terrorism. It may well be that he’s simple and egotistical enough not to realize how he’s manipulated by others, but that doesn’t make his intentions any less malevolent, and those who are working through him are considerably more so than their relatively innocent counterparts in the film.

I have a spoonrack to spare, but I think my granny would come back and kill me first. (She wasn’t a conservative as far as I could tell.)

Has anyone explained to Shrub, slowly and in small words, that he doesn’t get to delegate being President without signing a piece of paper saying he isn’t going to be President any longer? Is this delegating something he’s hoping we won’t notice, like he’s hoping we won’t notice any of his other sins of commission and omission?

*ilson is such a know-it-all! :~)
Hey, what’s a rabid lamb?

Thass he momma, Mei Xiang. She plumb pooped, too.

Livin’ in DC is HARD WORK, I hear.

Marty Kaplan, on HuffPo, addresses the study about The Daily Show, including actual links to the study:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..23653.html

A link to Eddie Izzard.
You just made my day.
Thanks.
I love love love Eddie Izzard.
My son named his pet chameleon “Eddie Lizard”.

From “Dressed to Kill”:

About Hitler:

And he was a mass-murdering fuckhead, as many important historians have said. But there were other mass murderers that got away with it! Stalin killed many millions, died in his bed, well done there; Pol Pot killed 1.7 million Cambodians, died under house arrest at age 72, well done indeed! And the reason we let them get away with it is because they killed their own people, and we’re sort of fine with that. “Ah, help yourself,” you know? “We’ve been trying to kill you for ages!” So kill your own people, right on there. Seems to be…Hitler killed people next door…”Oh…stupid man!” After a couple of years, we won’t stand for that, will we?

follow the link for more really good stuff.
better yet, get the DVDs

are we killing the people next door? after a few hears will the world get tired of it?

Eddie Izzard rocks!

http://www.dailykos.com/

everyone keeps doin’ that. of course i know who KOS is.

he’s the boogeyman. well, i’ve had my doubts about the blogosphere, but ya got ‘em up on their toes.

brooks is a moron, but that mort kondracke cuts right to the meat of an issue.

rabid lambs is just the kind of moronic construction you would expect from bozo, ah bobo.

“That’s no ordinary rrrrrrabbit!”

doesn’t David Brooks have some business that benefits from war…shouldn’t he disclose his connections every time he opens his mouth…

Jeez, the shrinking wool thing was a joke. Bleating sheep shrieking in pain as their soaked wool slowly crushed their innards.

Sometimes I get depressed by aiming at humor and consistently missing so dramatically.

Watertiger!!

Watch out for those

teeeeth!

133 Redshift says:

June 24th, 2006 at 3:12 pm

W is, at best, Chauncy Gardener’s evil twin. Chauncy Gardener in Being There was a harmless simpleton on whom people projected their beliefs about the meaning of his utterances. He never had any illusions about being the things those people saw in him. W ardently believes he’s in charge, believes he’s just as smart as all those eggheads who have actually studied diplomacy and the Middle East and counter-terrorism. It may well be that he’s simple and egotistical enough not to realize how he’s manipulated by others, but that doesn’t make his intentions any less malevolent, and those who are working through him are considerably more so than their relatively innocent counterparts in the film.

ya, there ya go, being there with peter selers, this is where we are todat

I love it when our threads get all-over-the-place like this.

lotus,

A Watertiger thread is designed for that specific purpose….

President Clinton and Jodie Foster are lefties.

Yezindeedy, imm. Your dears due in soon?

Man I wish Jodie Foster wouldcome out of the closet…as a Lesbian lefty

neurophius,

about the hot coathanger to the butt…

No one threatened me with a good time like that!

Can’t figure out why she didn’t do that long ago, Hope. Hyper privacy-concerns, I guess.

oilfieldguy: in Indiana, our wise farmers have sheep carry umbrellas to forestall such a loss of the herd … just simple economics!

Don’t forget: On May 11, 2005, a Cessna caused the evacuation of the White House, the Supreme Court and the U.S. Capitol. Bush was bicycling nearby at the time and was not even told. That pretty much says that Bush is just window dressing. I’m amazed that Republicans are able to keep straight faces while pretending that Bush is in charge. I guess their plunder makes it all worthwhile.

Anyone with the right campaign managers.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0623.html

I think Anne is right about:
. . .many no longer believe that being on television imbues someone with credibility, or elevates what is said on the TV to the level of truth.
I think it bothers them that we have gone elsewhere, and he and others like him are being kind of snitty about it.

It’s been a long long time since many of those guys called anything right or said anything that was worth a listen. What really is Brooks claim to punditry fame? That he can froth over Markos sending an email?

The problem for him is that people who don’t follow the bloposphere won’t care and people who participate in parts of the blogosphere either won’t care (holding up my hand) or were ahead of him and are reading each other (the LGFs) and not him. So his relevancy is — what?

We have Iraq, Iran, N.Korea, al-Qaeda, more fun and games with Hezbollah as well, Hamas, trade deficits, budget deficits, constitutional crises, illegal govt program, the NYT being used for a propaganda conduit, civil rights issues, security issues, foreign investment and control issues, faith based issues, anti-gay movements, the ever present abortion issues, heck – we even have the recurring feline population spring explosions and euthanasias — all of which are probably a bit more worthy of some focus.

Jerome (?as long as he’s not that guy Jerry I went to high school with) – how does his SEC problem or non-problem have much relevance to anything? Is he running for office? Is he a member of al-Qaeda? Is he handling any rendition programs? Is he the guy with the missing Iraqi billions? Was he the one that polluted the KBR water that was foisted on our troops?

Brooks pieces and York’s hairstyles make you think the same thing Pry or Tease?

How did all us cool peeps get stuck in red states? But thank god someone is carrying the water.

*ilson,

In Texas many sheep ranchers wear velcro chaps for entirely different reasons.

watertiger at 140:

Prepare for takeoff!

That bunny is expecting to fly! LOL!

immanentize 146

A Watertiger thread is designed for that specific purpose

watertiger designer threads

WTNY?

fwiw, I’m left-handed too. I was arguing with a winger-woman about gayness being as natural as lefthandedness — she indignantly stated she had two sons that were originally lefthanded but she beat that out of them and now they are righthanded! Sometimes it’s just common sense to terminate the chitchat…

Mary’s hit upon the exact drop-dead retort to that whole lot:

Pry or Tease?

ck -129

Hmmm.

“Provided you are an inbred offspring from a long line of merchants of death, who financed Hitler, installed Gestapo agents in the CIA, helped kill a president to ignite a war, own the media, have photos of editors in compromising positions, and have journalists kissing your ass every day while saying it smells like a Mr Lincoln rose.”

Out of all of those OTHER requirements to be President, I only have one, the inbred part (born in Utah). I am so jammed on the rest, I will have to have a talk with my parents the next time I see them and express my disappointment.

OFG…ewwe

OFG dear – have you checked recently? we had to do some of the brands while the recipients slept!

Mary — the guy with the missing Iraqi billions shot himself after tying the anchor around his neck and jumping off his boat. It’s not Armstrong, it’s Phillip Merrill, eulogized by VP Cheney. See watertiger’s site for a great shot of Cheney with his own Personal Vice Presidential Seal on the lectern at Merrill’s funeral….

I would strongly suspect that the purveyors of the John Stewart research don’t understand the concept that “correlation is not causation.” One of the most prominent examples of this is the persistent studies purporting to show that violent video games cause children to be more violent, when if you look at the data, what you see is that children who are predisposed to violence (such as those who have suffered physical abuse or head injuries) are disproportionately attracted to violent video games and media.

It’s difficult to know without seeing the actual study, of course, but unfortunately, political scientists, despite the name, are not trained in the scientific method, and while I’d trust them to research political trends and such, I’d be pretty wary of their conclusions about the connection between attitudes and individual behavior.

not anyone can be president. You must be a somebody. Or make out to be immediately descended from God.

Dick Cheney shot a man in the lecturn.

Darth Cheney hasn’t been able to shoot in decades.

Note to Brooks. I am not a member of any organization. I am a Democrat.

OFG –

What are the three biggest lies in Wyoming?

My pickup truck’s paid for . . .

I won my belt buckle in a rodeo . . .

Honest officer, I was just helping this sheep over the fence!

On Frontline this week the program began with the secret service whisking the VP to safety in the bunker on the morning of 9/11, while the president sat in the classroom in Florida, listening to fourth graders read. The VP ran the operations while the president sat in his own poop. Ya think W might be vestigal?

I guess this means that anonymous email I got to meet at the KosBaaaaaaaaa all had something to do with rabid sheep. :(

Back on the main topic, can we possibly get someone in the press to mention that if you’ve appointed someone and they do stupid things, even if they don’t tell you, you’re still responsible. That’s what being in charge means.

Of course, these are the people for whom the only meaning of the phrase “personal responsibility” is “poor people shouldn’t expect help from anyone.”

Imman: zombie panda bear from hell

ROFL – you say that as if you think baby demons shouldn’t have toys.

So OFG, all this time you’ve been doing rabid transit?

Frank Rich’ new column says “Homeland Security is a networking bootcamp for future private contractors.”
Hehehe!

I stay within the species and exclusively to members of the opposite sex. And us Oilfieldguys can lay some serious pipe.

(I’m such a naughty boy, send me to your room)

The LA Times let Jonah Goldberg have a go at Kos on Thursday. There is definitely a “vast right-wing conspiracy” afoot.

Why does Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki hate America?

Timetable for withdrawal, amnesty for insurgents who attacked US and Iraqi targets, release of all detainees, compensation for victims.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13…../newsweek/

*ilson 152 – you are old school. These days we just Scotchguard them.

So, Mary — how is Jerry?

Lotus, off to airport in five minutes to pick them all up….

This just in: a Central American country has just renamed itself Kos-ta Rica

Remember, this week began with the turdblossom in NH attacking Murtha and Kerry as cowards.

“No one could have anticipated that Homeland Security was going to propose these cuts.”

Redshift,

I’ve always been of the opinion that if you sit in the big chair you are either responsible or irresponsible. THAT’S the question I would like to see asked. As in which one is Bush?

I worked for a pipelaying company once — $3.75 per hour, Laborers Union, it was the best paying job I’d ever had.

Long time ago, obviously.

TeddySF — exactly AND the guy complaining is the biggest Republican Wanker in New York. My guess is he’s feeling a little election heat.

TeddySanFran,

The rich folk need their tax breaks to hire private security to protect them from the coming invasion of the screeming brown meenies.

Now this is INTERESTING….

—————————————
Duncan Hunter: Is he behind the Switfboating of Murtha?

Taylor Marsh:

But does anyone really believe it’s a coincidence that Snesko and his wife are attached to Duncan Hunter’s office? I would like to know if yet another Republican is involved in the swiftboating campaign of yet another veteran. Is Duncan Hunter, who was part of the 173rd Airborne and 75th Army Rangers and served in Vietnam, or his office, involved with this latest campaign to swiftboat Jack Murtha? Ask him. Or is this just a coincidental chain of people reaching back to the Swiftboat for Smears that targeted John Kerry? Frankly, I’m not a big believer in coincidences, but that’s just me….”

the buck stops in Dick Cheney’s wallet.

ROCK! The Kosbaa,
Brooks don’t like it.
This is not Kosher!
Rock the Kosbaaa

Mary that is so great!

Happy Homecoming to y’all, imm!

Teddy – that Merrill story is very odd indeed. I’ll cruise through Watertiger’s picks (even though its not my birthday *g*) but let me get this right – Cheney has his VP seal when he is giving a eulogy at a funeral?

I can’t have read that right.

OFG #185:

Larry Beinhart agrees with you. Best framing of the Iraq debaqle I’ve seen so far.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..23676.html

Yes, Mary, a watertiger commenter (I believe) asked if the VP just peeled it off the limo door and carried it in with him.

OT but short and sweet:
Larry Johnson at Truthout on WMD’s
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/062406Z.shtml

I just bought Suskind’s The One PerCent Doctrine. The story about the CIA terrorist warning briefing in August, 2001 (”All right, you’ve covered your ass.”) is on pages 1-2 of the preface. I don’t think I can stand the rest of the book, and may have wasted $20.

Biggest lie in Wyoming. Dick Cheney: Human.

And the difference IS you have to be somebody to be ELECTED President, but the daily requirements of the JOB does not call for any special skills outside a heartbeat. Which rules out Bush. He has no heart. Impeach him! The man has no HEART!

Mary,

the pic’s caption read that he was giving a speech at a memorial for Merrill.

with a VP seal on the podium.

Like a Pennsylvania Dutch hex or something.

Teddy – wow. I wonder if he’ll get to take it with him into the witness stand?

Have fun Imman. Jerry sux. He’s probably out buying more yellow ties and learning new adjectives as we speak. The SEC should investigate what he does with a thesarous.

I’m waiting for Busted to explain how many volumes EPU and Rude P are going to devote to rabid sheep. I may need more shelves – additional species never occured to me.

al-Scooter,

Digby has been hammering that same theme, more or less, for days. Your right, that is one hell of an article.

Do rabid androids dream of electric sheep?

Teddy – Merrill “Suicide”

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

Scroll down to June 21, 2006

I don’t know why they don’t just paint that damn VP seal on his dome.

shooogarp,

That reminds me of an old SNL skit where someone was doing a deal on Gorbachev and the wine stain birthmark on his head was in the shape of Poland. A real hoot!

“I don’t know why the don’t just paint that damn VP seal on his dome.”

Cuz it’s just his cover-story, shooo.

OFG – Didn’t Poland keep falling of his head into his food? And don’t get me started on Unfrozed Caveman Lawyer.

Lotus, yeah they probably keep the Presidential seal on his ass. Oh no. Must scrub cerebrum clean…can’t get clean…

Sorry, shooo, I gotta get you started on Unfrozed Caveman Lawyer, so I can find out who that is . . .

and while your at it…what is a shooogarp?

*ilson –

another open tag in the food thread . . .

Thanks WT & TSF

That pic just is hard to believe. Like looking at the Grand Canyon. Well, maybe that’s not the best analogy.

That service quite obviously needed some input from Al Sharpton.

http://static.flickr.com/63/17…..2db41c.jpg

I mean, there are so many possibilities: Asscroft, Abu, Dread Pirate Irving, Addington, Yoo . . .

I realize that I am objectively biased about this whole Iraq thing. But things are getting really daffy in that part of the world. A senior military official (un-named of course) commenting on Iraq’s national reconciliation plan’s principle no. 19, concerning attacks on American occupiers, and their possible forgiveness, says before acceptance the U.S. will have to decide the difference between an insurgent and a terrorist.

OFG #201:

I guess with everything that’s happened this week, I didn’t make the rounds to Digs’ per SOP. Just shows how much of a must-read site he and tristero have.

In any case, let’s help Rover super-glue his boyz to his boss’ war. M$M complicity and October surprise or no, I’m still getting the distinct impression that no matter the tactics, he’s losing the communications battle. People are just tuning his b.s. out.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin…..House.html

NYtimes, June 24, 2006
E – Mails Detail Abramoff Requests, Contacts
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, Filed at 5:19 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) — Wanted: Face time with President Bush or top adviser Karl Rove. Suggested donation: $100,000. The middleman: lobbyist Jack Abramoff. Blunt e-mails that connect money and access in Washington show that prominent Republican activist Grover Norquist facilitated some administration contacts for Abramoff’s clients while the lobbyist simultaneously solicited those clients for large donations to Norquist’s tax-exempt group.

Mary 212 – he just needs a big gold bling chain to wear that medal around his neck. On the flip side it has concentric circles.

My typo. It is actually Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer, which was Phil Hartman’s best character IMHO.

So he’s this caveman that was frozen for all this time and they thaw him out and he becomes heartless lawyer.

His courtroom “shtick” is: …”your flying machines mystify me, your talking gadgets amaze me, and I don’t know what to make of your miracle pills, BUT I DO KNOW ONE THING. My client should be able to build his condos on a wetland, because in my day we put PEOPLE before ducks.

Oh, and his name was Kee-Rock. No last name.

I might be the only person who remembers it. At least I’m entertaining my self.

http://images.tribe.net/tribe/…..68c.medium

Truly nice post, Watertiger.

and OFG #177 – that’s a side of you I never saw before.

OFG – well it’s a long story, but the gist of it is my last name starts with “P” and I had a girl friend that started calling me Sugar in front of my friends (cause I was so sweet she said), which totally cracked them up. So they all started calling me SugarP. Which stuck.

Anyway, at least I’m EPUing this.

Hello Lizzy!

Just having a little fun *blush*

*ilson46201 @ 4:02 pm (#217) – The worst thing, IMHO, about this Abramoff/Santorum/K Street thing is the “pay to play” nature of it. Some would argue that it’s always been that way, and no smart lobbyist would have given exclusively to one party even eight years ago, but this is just an extraordinary level of arm-twisting.

One of Wampum’s articles many moons ago (sorry, couldn’t help it) detailed one such transaction. It was clear that this had become the modus operandi of the K Street folks.

Ah, so now we know to call you “shooogar-p” instead of “shooo-garp”!

Was she from Mississippi, this girlfriend?

Always liked sugar peas.

Lotus – 224

Nope. California. Strange thing was she definitely was NOT sweet.

Gawd, I can imagine som gurl calling me sugar in front of all my oilfield truckdrivin’ buddies. Hahahahaha.

I’m partial to snap peas, but sugar peas will do.

Watertiger,

Don’t know if you noticed this

It’s all in the body language

Look at Shrub – he looks like he wants to pounce on Condi right there (forward posture, frat boy smirk)

The ambassador dude is like here’s this person I’ve heard so much about

And Laura’s like – “here comes that slut who’s f***ing my husband” (must smile for the cameras … ugh, must hold the smile … uhn!!!)

Remind us all to do that when we meet yer buddies, OFG.

WHUPS!

OFG – You can only imagine the embarassment. She could have just kicked me in the balls and I would have been happier. I’m just sayin’

OFG, sure I know it. Tis really great to hear that Jane is doing well.

my mental image was something stuck to the bottom of your shoe.

or some critter that you had to shoo away.

the world according to shoogarp.

‘In this planet-smashin’ ish, true believers!…The KINGPIN!’

It’s clobberin’ time

;>)

What’s a punaise? You might have already explained this….

To the NYTimes’ credit, they also
“> wrote this yesterday. [This URL isn’t coming through in preview.] It’s on the estate tax, and whoever wrote it caught the gist of the House bill pretty well.

it’s a little prick … so to speak

My big hope is that some day, about two years from now, I’ll be a swell, with a chair at the big kids table, and I’ll get this really great idea and I got Markos on speed dial so I can get big idea clearance/authorization.

Lookit that — Cujo and *ilson have set up house together!

BY LISA ANDERSON
Chicago Tribune
NEW YORK – Americans have never had it so good.

Gas prices may be up. The stock market may be down. Job security may seem an illusion and there’s not yet an iPod in every pocket. But, according to the government, American families have never earned more income, spent less on necessities or enjoyed a higher standard of living than they do right now.

http://rawstory.com/showoutart…..895081.htm

Well, I guess we can all relax now.

I think that’s illegal in twenty seven states.

with four pitbabies in the house, we do not make jokes about Cujo here …

punaise is French for thumbtack or push pin. Unfortunately it also means bedbug.

It’s also a mild French euphamism for “putain!” (literally: whore) which is used as an exclamation to mean something along the lines of “holy shit”, or “damn it”. Putain can also be used as an adjective, equlivalent to f**king. example: ce putain de emboutaillage m’ennerve = this f**king traffic jam is getting on my nerves.

then there’s the “pun” angle….

Can someone find Lisa Anderson and smack her? It pisses me off the more I think about it.

The world according to push pin.

punaise is a cunning linguist.

didn’t Hitler call the President of France Marshal Putain ? or did Charles de Gaulle do that?

Brooks definitely got a new pair of knee pads for that one.

OFG – OMG!

*cleaning coffee off keyboard*

didn’t Bush look into Putain’s eyes and see his soul?

shooogarp

Lisa actually lives on fucking Mars.

Would “putain” be the source word for “poo-tang?”

*ilson – it’s more likely that de Gaulle said that about Marechal Petain, the WWI hero who became the leader of the collaborationist Vichy govt.

I think Holy Joe has learned a trick or two from Petain, Vichywise.

OFG – yet I did not graduate from Oral Roberts University…

ck 251 – I’ve wondered about that

Lotus – 145

“I love it when our threads get all-over-the-place like this.”

Yep, that’s mah story and Ah’m stickin’ to it, shooogar-p.

Sounds kinda like a roll in the hay

punaise at 4:37 pm –

The Spanish puta has the same meaning — but I’ll guess it came from WWII, since pootang has kind of gone out of fashion.

Punaise,
I thought you majored in French here

I thought it was poontang.

punaise @ 4:36 pm (#253) – Ever catch for Orel Hershiser?

HopeSprings, I’m ambidextrous, but I write with my left hand. Does that count?

I am also a squeaking rabid venomous lamb with fingers (can’t type without fingers.) Apparently some mad scientist has crossed a sheep with a bat, a snake, and a monkey. Darkblack, if you could photoshop one of those, I’d like a T-shirt. You could call me a member of Kosa Nostra, or the Yakosa, but I prefer to think of all of us denizens of the fever swamp as Our Gang. Poor little Brooksie, stuck behind his TimesSelect firewall, hasn’t got a clue.

Uh oh,
VG is here

ixnay on the exsya

OT – on all the financial records stuff.

a) How is it that we can track down terrorists through SWIFT transactions records and yet we can’t track down 9 billion of our own money that went *poof* and why does MSM not mention that 9 bill when Cheney gets rolling (Mr. VP, isn’t it helping the terrorists when we can lose 9 bill and not even look for it?)

b) How come for all those financial transactions they got warrants – but to wiretap and vacumn emails etc. it was too much trouble?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..

Cujo re: Abramoff – the pay to play doesn’t even bother me as much as the crushing of people in their way. Although I grant you, the pay to play is creepy too.

I wonder if Norquist will really, truly walk away from it all with no charges.

And where IS Ms Ralston these days?

john @ 229,

that photo is a psychologist’s wet dream.

the OED says ‘poontang’ is derived from putain — puta is the Spanish word for putain so is there a Latin original source?

You lambs had better not pull the tiger’s tail too hard. If liberal blogger attacks against the establishment don’t cease, he’ll begin advocating that a “security fence” be built around you.

that photo is a psychologist’s wet dream.

as opposed to the preznit’s wet dream?

“pootang has kind of gone out of fashion.”

Yeah, ever since Ted Nugent’s career went in the crapper.

Bush administration’s secret plan to shoot the N. Korean missile out of the sky

OFG 258 – LOL

Cujo, I’ll take that strictly at face value (don’t get Pach, TRex and *ilson started on pitchers and catchers)…

no love lost for the Dodgers up here in the Bay Area. Hershiser actually played for the Giants towards the end of his career…uggh. That was hard to countenance. Always assumed he was sort of an infiltrator. He must have felt like Norman Mineta in Bush’s Cabinet.

Whew, *ilson — thanks! My OED is such a bruiser to handle, I hardly ever risk it anymore. Dropped it on my foot last time. Didn’t need to look up what to say . . .

Mary

and the Anthrax. Wonder whodunnit? Did they send out dupity dawg wid his rusty .38 to fine dem bad guyz? I don’t think these guys could find water standing on the bottom of the ocean.

OFG- oh oh- don’t you know what happens when you start pushing my buttons? I’m still recovering. ;). But didn’t you like the part about not having the plastic thingie to hold the cans together?

Still hoping to reach our goal of $1200 from fdl tonight to benefit Howie Klein’s recommended Larry Kissell in NC

Please help this deserving candidate!!

Sorry, I didn’t make it clear that the ‘tiger’ was David Brooks. I meant to substitute the pronoun ‘he’ for ‘Brooks’ in the second sentence.

“What’s a punaise? You might have already explained this.”

I always thought punaise was what the authorities did to that poor guy in the book, Crime and Punaisement.*

*I don’t know how to do Italics.

VG

Yes I did. Good metaphore. I’ll probably “Box Turtle Ben” it. Talked about you with Jane this morning about what a treasure you are.

you do Italics like you do French, Greeks, Germans — unzip them first …

Poontang? Is that an exotic meal. Or…something. What’s the recipe?

*ilson –

Spanish is closer to the everyday language of the Roman Empire than Latin — maybe it was what it is?

Wikipedia on Latin (porn)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_profanity

The last of the I told you so, tribe

Mary 263 — As I understand it, they didn’t use warrants for the SWIFT stuff. They used administrative subpoenas, renewed monthly. Since they were directed to the clearing house, the banks didn’t know, let alone the banks’ customers. At least, so I understood from yesterday’s accounts. Of course, no civil rights were infringed because Treasury hired an outside auditor to make sure. *cough* Apparently the banks are fairly pissed about the whole thing, so this one might get some traction. Not a good idea to screw around with banks. Or the international currency markets.

“He must have felt like Norman Mineta in Bush’s Cabinet.”

LOL!

We seem to have degenerated watertigers thread.

neurophius –

use the arrow tags (above the comma and period) with an “i” in between to start, and a “/i” to end italics.

Hi everyone. I made it home after the convention. I’m tired, but very energized. I learned so much and met so many great Democrats.

I want to thank everyone who asked questions and sent contributions to Larry Kissell. I will try to get answers to your questions and post them on the previous thread. Larry has events all weekend, so I don’t think he’ll get back by.

While I’m not part of the campaign I’m very excited about Larry’s candidacy. I’m 44 and it’s been a long time since I’ve felt this way. It feels so much better to be for a candidate and to be for him/her for all the right reasons. I’m amazed at how many people have come on board to help the Kissell campaign. I stopped by their table to get some more stickers and there was a mad rush from delegates to stop by and get information about the campaign when the convention ended. Democrats from our “safe” districts wanted to sign up to help the campaign.

Howie asked Anglico why he wanted a House full of men/women like Larry…what it is about Larry that would make him say that. I can answer that – humility, integrity and honesty.

Thanks again everyone.

shall we dependably regenerate it?

Wasn’t the thread about a young upstanding guy who works hard and wants to be President someday?

WAS Norman Mineta in Bush’s Cabinet?

You don’t say!

OFG- ahhh. So are you. That plastic thingie line was not mine. It just seemed appropriate. It came from an email I got a long while ago that had supposedly true comments on job evaluations. My favorite was “I’d like to go hunting with him”, which pretty much summed up my feelings about my dept chair at the time.

I’m sorry. Wrong country.

future blog name, if watertiger assents: de-renderable punigade.com

I’m still waiting for CHS to respond to my #71 response to her #64 comment.

Crime and Punaisement?/i

[ Moderator: NO! you left the italics tag unclosed which pollutes all the following comments! The closing tag must also be enclosed with arrow marks </i> ]

B. Muse at 4:57 pm –

I’ve had Howie’s ActBlue page open all afternoon — just need to get my wallet and credit card to finish the donation.

Why don’t you post the link again?

“Say Norm, we’re gonna have to ask you to leave the room while Karl briefs us on our strategy for reaming the public again.”

The one thing I do find encouraging is the constant drip, drip, drip… of these news stories coming out. It doesn’t look as if the leaks are stopping. There are some very patriotic Americans who don’t like the way this Misadminstration is running things (into the ground).

my 294

What did I do wrong? I didn’t think the /i was supposed to show…

Thank you Valley Girl. I look forward to the opportunity to pulling your pigtails in person.

BTW, do they let chicks in biomed labs? I mean besides to fetch coffee and such.

“Clang, clang, clang goes the folly
Drip, drip, drip goes the news”

OFG at 293 — Sorry, had to run to the store. We were out of all the essentials: milk, juice, yogurt — and three year old girlies are unhappy when we are out of yogurt, let me tell you. Sorry, Kelly, I had missed that while we were at the conference — being as worked to the bone as I was by Siun (joking! She was the biggest sweetie the whole time we were in Vegas…). And thank you muchly — it was very sweet.

punaise- 296 I am LOL at that one! Classic.

nice opening — but both the “i” and the “/i” have to be between arrow keys, to close the italics.

sorry about that –

Bad italics. Bad!

and OFG was never heard from again….

There you go, neurophius!

You can do the same trick with “b” for bold and “blockquote” for … um, you know.

Funny stuff. Check out the comments! LOL

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/24/194520/430

Shit. FDL is leaning to the right.

Valley Girl!

Crime and Punaisement

Quick! Everyone to the left before this whole thing tips over!

punaise 296

Please, let’s not get started talking about Karl’s briefs…

Exciting news, we have raised nearly $1,000 for Howie Klein’s recommended candidate Larry Kissell in NC.

Hoping to make our goal of $1,200! If you can spare $5, $10, or $20 for this progressive candidate, the real thing, please help us make our goal tonight. Thanks!!

italics off

I thought you were napping CHS. You certainly deserve it. And I wasn’t whining, I was almost certain you missed my earlier comments with the whirlwind of YKOS.

test

neuro 312, you’re gonna have to take that one up with darkblack. or not…

ck, will I be punaised for that mistake?

OFG- don’t push it right now. I am serious.
Grad school interviews were real fun. At one place one of the interviewers congratulated me because I was “the only girl they didn’t make cry”. And then he kept phoning me to hit on me, and then started phoning my mother to find out why I was ignoring him. And, that’s just one of my stories. There are many many others. I would never ever encourage a young woman to go into academic science. The experience has been truly soul destroying.

I’m just concerned with VG exercise regiment. So I try to get her exercised.

BarbB they didn’t use warrants for the SWIFT stuff. They used administrative subpoenas, renewed monthly

Ahh.

actually any html tag may be used in comments including COLOUR and centering

If it helps, I have a crush on RedHedd, (whatever happened to her anyway?). Reminds me totally of my cubscout denmother from some time ago.

My post wasn’t in italics originally, but apparently wanted to go on some sort of Roman Font vacation.

Happy to help bring it down gently.

Learning opportunity: to end italics [/i]
with

*ilson, once somebody in here threatened to make a word blink on and off, but I never saw it happen. Is that possible?

HAHAHA wesgpc — I’m ReddHedd. And I am remarkably like a cub scout den mother. *G*

neurophius: please review my moderation of your comment at 294

COLOUR *ilson, are you a Brit? I thought you lived in Chicago. Do they spell funny there too?

neurophius –

to do [i]italics[/i] use these symbols — but substitute arrows for brackets. Using a “B” instead of an “I” gives bold –

using “blockquote” gives:

blockquote

note — on some websites (dKos?) the [] bracket symbols do the same thing; but here, it’s the keys.

VG,

I would imagine so. I didn’t mean to hit a nerve and you have my admiration for going so far in that field. It is unfortunate you work with neanderthals. In the rough and tumble world of the oilfields, I have worked with about half a dozen women–very rare. In each and every instance, they were revered and admired by all their co-workers–anyone said crap about them and they were dealt with harshly.

Now isn’t that funny. The knuckledraggin Joes are more gentlemanly than the educated and cultured. Go figure.

VG at 319 — I had similar issues in grad school at UPenn, where they kept trying to push me into 3rd world development studies classes because as a girl, that’s what I should be studying, I suppose. Meanwhile, what interested me was national security theory and negotiation tactics in international relations. (You know, the shit that Bolton doesn’t do at the UN…) I had one professor who wouldn’t call on me — so my study group partners (all men) started raising their hands, getting called on and then saying “Christy has a question…” Hilarious.

blink

*ilson please review–294 looks the same to me as the way I typed it. With a “/i” that shouldn’t be there.

Don’t y’all think *ilson ought to teach us all how to do color too, and stop bogartin’ it?

*ilson thinks he’s blinking at 332. should we break it to him?

*ilson,

Are you flirting with me?

Nah.

I am feeling kinda pseudo-intellectual so I used “colour” — Naptown folk dont spell it thatwaways…

Only if he teaches us how to do color, punaise.

*ilson46201 @ 5:09 pm

Column 1Column 2Column 3

DATA 1DATA 2DATA 3

Last time I tried, they didn’t allow tables. Maybe now …

I’m not flirting with anybody — I just got a mote in my contact lens …

Nope. Still can’t do tables here, although they do work in “preview”.

lotus…334

don’t bogart that …. my friend, pass it over to meeee. Puts me in mind of Gainesville green. Long time ago.

tables could be useful…

ck and lotus and egregious and anyone I missed, thanks for the instruction. Now I will be dangerous.

egregious – thank you for providing the link. I’m trying to get dinner together, so only checking back sporadically.

Christy- Sadly, that sort of thing was really common. I think it’s still common, but just more covert. Not necessarily conscious. Doesn’t make it hurt less. Or do any less damage. And sexual harassment? Whoa. Let me count the ways. Started in college when one of my profs got fixated on me. Miserable experience. It just goes on and on.

ilson, dude! You’re blinking!

mein gott. these internets are a constant source of amazement.

We must control them.

*ilson –

DO NOT teach the secrets of “color” — it’ll be like those old sci-fi movies, where everything goes to hell, once the undark forces are released.

Some things are best left alone . . .

hi there all!

ooo! ooo! ooo! ooo!

thx wilson :)

speaking of Oklahoma, Color Me Badd

If we turn the thread red do you think we’ll get a visit from Merkin Patriot?

a very useful html tag here is underlining …. it’s just <u>text</u>

Tables are good for presenting lists of information, like election results. Unfortunately, you can get into a lot of trouble if you haven’t formatted them properly. In a normal web page, you just fix it, but in comments, a moderator would probably be required.

Anyway, that’s my theory.

I think there are a couple of rules folks should try to follow whenever they use HTML tags:

1. Preview your comment before posting it.

2. Try to put some normal text at the end to make sure you’ve undone whatever you did.

Aw phoo, ck, spoil ALL our fun.

OT: for any uc santa cruz slug alum – sad news, the Chancellor died this morning, a fall from a S.F. highrise. sfgate.com

I tried a strikethrough one time, but when I viewed it in preview, the strikethrough kept right on going.

punaise

Speaking of Color Me Badd, thanks for reminding me of Wikipedia. I had been wishing I had access to an online reference source that would define phrases, not just words like a dictionary. I wanted to find out the origin of cut and run, the Republican talking point we have been hearing so much lately, and figure out why they like it so much. Wikipedia answered that for me.

Christy dear – you were so wonderful with all the press … kept us cheering at perfect delivery of just the right ideas! (and it was so nice to see a friendly fdl face in the media room!)

now just wait til next year! (we’re already planning … the YKOS team never sleeps I’m learning!)

the essential thing in using ANY html tag is to properly close it off. otherwise it will continue into perpetuity or until an overworked and underpaid moderator gets in and corrects it so as not to spoil the fun of all involved !!!

rosalind – ouch… punaise jr. is a hopeful future UCSC admittee and eventual alum, and my older bros were there in the mid-late 70s.

1) I think FDL might decide to turn all that font stuff off if it is abused, like the smiley faces were when the blog first moved to this site. Of course, no FDL reader would abuse their privileges, so excuse me.

2) Gwarsh, Ms. Smith! You’re so sweet.

3) This belongs on the what have we read or heard today thread. But… it seems like the issue of permanent bases and the problem of what might be BushCheneyRumDum’s strategic plan in general is getting attention by our the mature and respectable punditocrat betters. I think that is a good thing. I wonder if the administration has one single thought on that issue in its pretty little head (if its desires are publicly speakable. I think large permanent air bases and garrisons are not, either here or there). I hope FDL will raise its hand and say the this commenter has a question about it, at an opportune time.

Cujo359- thanks for that. And putting normal text at the end is a great idea. I can tell you that in my sometimes role as moderator, fixing tags has gotten to be a real pain. I would have thought by now that Word Press / WP contributors would have come up with a plug-in to solve this problem.

*ilson –

what’s the command for strikeout?

siun,

any 411 on next years location?

hey siun! any rumors on where YKos will be held?

I guess I won’t be surprised to hear soon that Congress is trying to put a leash on Wikipedia…

Oilfieldguy @ 5:27 pm (#358) – <STRIKE> is like almost all the HTML tags, you have to have a </STRIKE> at the end.

<STRIKE>stricken</STRIKE> == stricken

I hope being an UCSC alum wont make him bitter !

but..the preview was green..

rosalind! OT: for any uc santa cruz slug alum – sad news, the Chancellor died this morning, a fall from a S.F. highrise. sfgate.com

Slug Ph.D. here- link? Denton?

*ilson, depends on whether he goes for a pH dee.

I so like a man that uses == or < = or =>

sfgate.com

– UC Santa Cruz Chancellor Denice D. Denton died today after jumping from a San Francisco apartment building, police sources said.

cujo

You mean, as in U.S. chimp puppet President Bush?

you can make fonts in any of 218 different colors by name … the list is fascinating just as a vocabulary lesson for us non-artists !

I put up a fresh thread. Nothing fancy — I’m too tired to get all policy wonk-y this evening. But it is good for a laugh…

Brooks’ “…squadrons of rabid lambs, to unleash their venom on those who stand in the way..” is bound to go down as the worst mixed metaphor in journalistic history. One can imagine his feeling of triumph as his fingers fly across his keyboard, emitting this mastepiece as he goes.

Listen up David, lambs move in flocks, not squadrons, and they do not emit venom, and in any case venom is usually tranferred by injection not unleashing.

He also speaks of Kos “firing up his website..” Now when was the last time anybody “fire up” a website?

He also implies that Kos communicates with Townhouse through DailyKos rather than the much more mundance email.

Nice try David, but no cigar. You will now be confined to life in journalistic version of the dunce’s corner.

BTW, I am no Kos partisan. Just pointing out what an a-hole of a writer Brooks is.

Now if only somebody would be so kind as to teach me how to embed a link in a word or phrase (since it’s a slow afternoon)…

punaise- oh, god. I will read the article. Maybe life in academic science was just too soul destroying for her too. She had plenty of stories about her treatment on that account.

He also speaks of Kos ‘firing up his website…’ Now when was the last time anybody ‘fire up’ a website?

I heard Markos has to turn the crank on the front of his computer every morning while his son holds down the shift key.

…and since we are EPU’d…

VG: Yes, Denice Denton. I don’t know how to do links, but it’s at the top of “sfgate.com”, the sf chronicle homepage.

VG, the article mentions some questionable demands for perks and improvements to the official residence on campus (to the tune of $600k). Menawhile, she was renting an apartment in a luxury highrise in SF. Perhaps that’s part of the big picture.

orangejumpsuit @ 5:37 pm (#379) – I’m sure future military historians will be fascinated to know how many rabid lambs there were in a typical squadron, and how many squadrons composed a flock. Was it tactical necessity that determined these things, or did the DoK (Dept. of Kos) have a standard lamb unit structure?

punaise – thank you.

Punaise…351

Was someone speaking of “Oklahoma!”?

Punaise- thanks for the link. That is so incredibly sad. I haven’t followed any of the controversy that is mentioned in the article. But, I have to say that if women in the sciences got paid extra or got extra perks for “battle pay” it wouldn’t bother me a bit. Course, they typically get less pay and fewer perks.

==Denton previously was the dean of the College of Engineering and a professor of electrical engineering at the University of Washington. She was the first woman to hold such a position at a top research university, the site said.==

Very weird in a sad way that this info was posted on the very same thread where I was talking about academic science for women being soul destroying. It really can be.

Valley Girl @ 5:44 pm (#389) – Engineering, for reasons I don’t entirely understand, is still a very male-dominated profession. I’d never heard of this woman, but I suspect she frequently found that the only folks who shared her interests were men. While that might be OK most of the time, it’s likely she felt rather alone at times.

Everyone seems very playful today. ;)

Seeing Wayne Madsen’s name made me wonder.

When was the last time Laura Bush was seen in public?

OFG and Punaise … YKOS2 location?

We’re just starting to look at options but then there will be a community vote to sort out the choices … last year LV did not win until after we had pricing and then the low cost made LV the most popular option.

So far, there’s some sentiment to stick to LV (they have the facilities at low cost), also considerable interest in Chicago and then a whole range of towns being lobbied for. The trick is to find someplace that’s cheap to fly to and that has a location that can accomodate everybody. Some folks have suggested NOLA which gets a lot of support but may not be in shape to take us all in.

Also, there will be discussions about panel topics, etc. If folks have ideas about what they liked, didn’t or would like to see – make a list and let me know. (christina underscored siun at mac dot com)

Right now we’re doing some team evals – there are a number of minor but tiresome details we want to impove (like printing more of the badges ahead of time sorts of things). We’ll definitely have a call for volunteers rather soon so if you’d like to help (and it’s a blast) consider signing up when that comes along.

rosalind – thanks for the tip of the sad news

Cujo359- the way that women are treated in academic science goes way beyond lonely. That sounds so homey- being lonely. Oh no, it is much much uglier than that.

punaise: punaise jr. should check out the west facing rooms at parrington dorm at cowell college – unobstructed view of monterey bay. (well, unobstructed in the 80s…they have done a bit of building since then).

Oklahoma kiddo 387

Was someone speaking of ‘Oklahoma!’?

nahh, it was just a coincidence. I looked up Color Me Badd because of the references to color in comments, then saw they were from OK, then saw that you had just posted a comment. Guess you had to be there. Oh, wait, you were…

rosalind – we’ll chack it out when we do a tour (he’s still a year away from college). My oldest bro was one of the first students at Kresge College

Cujo359 @ 5:43 pm (#386) – Another fascinating question about rabid lamb squadrons would be if they worked in conjunction with other rabid animal squadrons. For reasons that I’m sure are obvious, it might make sense for them to operate in conjunction with rabid sheep. Naturally, such task forces would be commanded by a rabid sheep dog.

Of course, it’s fairly certain that rabid sheep would be immune to the venom of rabid sheep, but one wonders what extra precautions the rabid sheepdog and his staff would have to take.

siun – I’ve always wanted to visit Chicago…

comment re: 297 drip drip drip fills the lake………

rosalind- what did you study at UCSC?

p.s. I sometimes wonder what happened to the guy (name escapes) who used to do all of the great comments about his dog Jake in the barn. Slug.

VG: community studies

Valley Girl @ 5:55 pm (#394) I didn’t have any experience with academic institutions after I graduated. My engineering experience was entirely in industry, which has a mixed record.

I’m certain that not all the bigots are doing blue collar work.

For the record the anagram of rabid lambs is

DISMAL BARB

Dismal Barb: Is that what Streisand was the day after the 2004 election?

I think I’d better leave now…

egregious @ 6:05 pm (#405) – “Dismal Barbs” is a unit nickname that any rabid lamb squadron would be proud of.

Punaise … Chicago is worth visiting, Ykos or not! I’m spending my vacation week acting like a tourist myself … so much to see!

rosalind- thanks. I thought I could ask about some profs I knew there, but community studies is too far from what I did. That news about Denton is really sad. I’m sure she’s going to be trashed because of “irregularities”, and I don’t even know how to deal with that. I’m not sure I even should try to figure it out by reading old news etc. All that stuff last year when Larry Summers (ex Harvard pres) said women didn’t succeed in science because they didn’t have the same genetically given abilitity as men upset me beyond belief. In any event, I do appreciate you posting the news. Somehow, I would have felt even worse finding this out only much later.

Back at 214 or vicinity.
Chronically EPU’d, I have been waiting for a thread to allow this very question. This is one of the details where the devil lurks: what indeed is the difference between a terrorist and an insurgent?

Are the al-Qaeda a transnational insurgent group utilizing the tools of terror in pursuit of their somewhat common goals? Do we term them capital-tee Terrorists? What about the dragon’s teeth sown in the domestic ground of Iraq? How many are sectarians turned loose by the removal of the Baathist hegemony and how many are patriots seeking to drive out the foreign occupying army by whatever means at their disposal, both using terror tactics?

I have often wanted to pose a question to the most fervent supporters of continuing occupation (yes, I know Occupation is a meme we must sell with rovian skill to the MSM slaves and devotees. Repetition is all here).

It’s this: what would you do, what would card-carrying NRA members do, what would any American not totally craven (or threatened by the hideous kinds of blackmail such sociopaths can devise) do were we invaded and occupied by self-appointed saviours of freedom? We’d have our Quislings, yes, but I betcha we’d see some of the most creative guerilla warfare ever devised in the effort to remove invaders from our territory.

So, how can we redefine the simplistic definition of any resistance to our activities/meddling as “terrorism?” whether in Iraq or elsewhere? AT this point, it may be impossible to sort out in Iraq, and will be soon in the hotbed Mid-East.

VG — It is never too late to go to law school. These days @ 50% of the class is female. Faculties are catching up, not quickly enough, but trying hard. And the life of a legal academic is very pleasant. For one thing, no grant proposals unless maybe you’re a clinician or an empiricist. Downside: You have to grade your own exams, and faculty meetings can go on forever. Still, think about it. Seriously.

BarbaraB- now that’s very interesting. But I am a lot older than the hiring age in an academic department. Way too old. Odd thing is, way back in junior high school, when I articulated my first “career choice”- it was to be a lawyer. Some silly vocational test concluded that I did not have the people skills, and I took it seriously. I grade my own exams by choice. It’s an important way to learn about my students, and what they are getting and not getting. You think faculty meetings in my department are brief??? So maybe I just need to find the academic law equivalent of dermatology in the medical field. I do really appreciate your comment. Maybe we can discuss this further by some other means. Not right now, because I am totally preoccupied with other stuff, but later.

Oilfieldguy says:
June 24th, 2006 at 5:14 pm

My mother’s first job was newspaper proofreader; her second was lab tech in an oilfield. She said the guys would stand outside the room (near the window) and use the worst language they knew, trying to shock her.

Hypatia @ 6:13 pm (#411) – It seems obvious that at least some of the insurgent activity in Iraq could be described as resistance. They are fighting foreign occupiers. There are also people there who are targeting other Iraqis for what can only be termed local political reasons, and, of course, there are international terrorists.

I think there are a couple of reasons we don’t call Iraqi insurgents “resistance” fighters. One is the fact that it’s pretty hard to tell who is who over there, and whether there actually is such a thing as a purely resistance movement. The other is that it’s an obviously politically loaded word. Say “resistance” and you think of all the partisans in WWII. It makes it look as if we’re in the wrong in Iraq. Both reasons make me reluctant to use the term.

ck at 295 I’ve had Howie’s ActBlue page open all afternoon – just need to get my wallet and credit card to finish the donation. Why don’t you post the link again?

Here it is.

We’re over $1,000!! Let’s keep it going, please donate, we’re trying to reach $1,200 tonight. Help one of the truly good guys….

Siun — you know that I was happy to help you guys out any way that I could. :) And you took fantastic care of me and everyone else — it was much appreciated.

Jane’s sister Pam has a new thread up top. Just FYI.

neurophius at 379: Now if only somebody would be so kind as to teach me how to embed a link in a word or phrase (since it’s a slow afternoon)…

Ok. Blind leading the blind here, or at least the lame and wobbling newbie teaching the newborn behind.

type the following: [a href=”the actual link here”]NAME OF LINK HERE[/a] then some other stuff to make sure you successfully closed the html.

Substitute for [] and you’re golden. Hey if I can do this totally anyone can :)

Iraq PM supports Dem plan for timetable
So how is the “decider” going to deal with the Iraqis telling him they want the US to get the hell out. Kinda puts a kink in the whole “permanent bases from which we can control the oil strategy.”

And how will they reconcile the issue of “terrorists / insurgents.” Yes, most of the resistance in Iraq today could be called a legitimate national liberation struggle against an occupying power. Certainly that’s how the majority of the Sunni insurgents see it. But these groups must have cooperated with the Al Queda terrorists. Giving them an unqualified amnesty seems problematic at best. How will the families who have lost loved ones in Iraq feel about this?

Merla Haggard……..a rebel with a cause.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13…../newsweek/

Nice post…but being realistic…all the deciding is over and done with, they’re just staying the course for the next couple years. Wouldn’t you with the record of success? It will be one long fishing trip from here on in. Let them eat perch.