
(guest post by Taylor Marsh)
Hey, Alberto Gonzales here.
So, I'm sitting around in my air conditioned office in Washington the other day thinking, I need to make an arrest. It's just been way too quiet lately and the boss is taking incoming from generals, veterans and military families on Iraq. I need to do something. I need to prove we're fighting them "over here" to make... well, anyway, we need to keep America safe.
Anyway, an FBI agent walks in and starts talking about a tip we just got from someone down in Miami. With Jeb down there it's friendly territory anyway, so I thought, what the hell, right? Next, I allocate some funds and sign off on an operational request. We called it Operation Ninja, and then my personal FBI agent buddy -- not a regular FBI agent, but one of our Republican moles -- gets on the phone to Florida.
So, now I'm a Ninja fighter. You may ask, why am I calling the bad ass terrorists in Florida Ninjas? Because they dressed up in "ninja clothing" to disguise their purpose and to shape shift between good and evil doers. It was on cable. It's true.
But after my FBI agent calls the head Ninja, a problem arises. Sure, they want to blow up stuff and raise hell in America. After all, that's what homegrown terrorists do. But the Florida Ninjas don't have a camera to take pictures of the buildings they want to blow up.
They don't have boots.
They don't have guns, equipment or any weapons of any kind. They don't even have explosives. There was "no threat from this cell."
They don't even have a van to case the building they hope to target.
That means more money and set up costs for me, so that the Florida Ninjas can set up shop so I can go in and arrest them for plotting terrorism. Well, this is a presidential pain.
And I have to do all this while also planning a big fancy blow out press conference for when I arrest the Florida Ninjas. Sheesh. An attorney general's job is never done.
Then I find out that there's been "absolutely no plotting" from these "mutant jihadists." The mainstream press is also calling them "incompetent wannabes." Yeah, but they're MY incompetent wannabes. I made these guys. These evil doers are mine.
We now rejoin reality, already in progress, which is owned by the progressive community...
Taylor, here. Color me cynical, but wake up and smell the election year fear campaign. Hear Karl Rove hiss. I'm all for catching terrorists, but when you catch a bunch of wannabe jihadists in ninja clothing just arrest them. Do you need to call a glory hound press conference?
Hold on, Alberto's back...
Hey, Alberto again. Won't be able to check in until later because we got another tip. Seems a call just came in about a bunch of Boy Scouts planning a military skirmish outside Foggy Bottom. Sounds suspicious to me. Those guys have knives.
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Jane, seconded!
Orange alert!Orange alert! The elections are coming, the elections are coming!
Bingo, mommybrain.
Prof. Juan Cole at Informed Comment has a good story about this: http://www.juancole.com/2006/0.....t-saw.html
Nice Taylor!
Times on the story too. Ouch!
http://www.time.com/time/natio.....12,00.html
Those “Boy Scouts” are obviously a cult of some kind! They’re all dresssed alike, in a vaguely military fashion, and keep repeating some sort of “oath”! Something about being “kind” and “thrifty”. They’re obviously not OUR sort!
Taylor, do you think some in the traditional press are getting tired of us calling them shills and stenographers? I haven’t seen them debunk a story this quickly in a long time.
B.Muse - You’re right. The Bushies are busted and they should be embarrassed.
but none of those teenaged boys in that Scout group are fooling around with each other since they dont allow homosexuals to join! score one for Dobson and Bush!
Cynicism is just not my natural state, but I find myself here almost permanently these days. ‘S’what comes of the Straussian pall that hangs over everything this malAdministration does, along with their permanent campaigning, I guess.
Over on Howie Klein’s DownwithTyranny, he opines today that Rover may be behind the pushpoll in CA’a 26CD the day before the primary that targeted Dreier’s strongest Dem opponent. *s*
Thanks, Taylor, for the grins today.
The debunking happened early enough to make the evening news…so maybe not too much damage by this bit of propaganda.
I smelleda rat immediately. These poor guys are being railroaded big time. The biggest criminal seems to be the informant who instigated the purchase of ‘uniforms’, devised a plan and contacted, perhaps, Al Qaeda. Could this be the first of many arrests we will see before the November elections?
Does “jihadist” work when these guys are apparently some kind of Christian Davidian types? I just blogged about this myself. Sheesh!
They can’t get away with the orange alerts before the elections any more, so now they’re going to go around picking up “Muslim terrorists” — pay no attention to the fact these people were “devout followers of the bible.”
Pathetic — and scary.
Need to get pics of their wish-list for terrorist uniforms so we can screen for them at airports.
This sort of Karl/Bush crap can be expected. I wonder what else will happen before elections are over?
I’ll Betcha they were singing that song Kunq Fu Fighting….
GITMO THEM!
#14: saying what kind of cult nuts they really are might bother The Base.
Get this, I just learned there is a new Swiftboat Veterans campaign that is about to be launched against Jack Murtha. Look out for this site: www.murthalied.com.
We need to be all over it when it appears.
Hey everyone,
Taylor, always a pleasure to see your posts, and good on ya for puttin’ it to the weasel Abu -
I really don’t watch teevee news anymore, so when my son told me they had arrested ‘terror suspects’ in Miami - I told him to put it on Fox - this crap, whatever it was, was so bad, not even Fox was hyping it
pathetic ? yes, but the fact I didn’t hear a soul talking about it today is a very good sign
Oh yeah Karl, keep bringing these clinkers
Swiftboating Murtha ? - unless they have actual video of him playing golf w/Satan, they are going to piss off a lot of middle of the road folks - that old Marine is beloved across the spectrum - bring that !
My goddess, this interview of James Woolsey by Wolf Blitzer so irresponsible, just a time-filler, and full of crap.
Taylor, got password?
#19: Wow. They really do have the same playbook with just a couple of plays in them. Democrats need to call them on this. The bogus purple heart play is alrady very tired. Why not have every Dem just point out the history, point out what a strange coincidence it is, and ridicule it? Laughter may be the best medicine here. Just explain it forcefully, explain how transparent and stupid it is, explain how GOP is playing people for suckers.
We have to cover Murtha’s back on this!
Taylor, thanks for the post and the heads-up on Murtha. Gotta teach these smear machines a lesson.
cbl - I hope this story makes the wingnuts weep.
Has anybody seen the Uniforms these wanabee Terrorists were going to wear? I understand these were some of the items they requested from our
RepugliicanFBI informant.mommybrain - I wish.
The way Murtha doesn’t suffer crap, I can’t wait to see his response!
When I follow your link, I only get a directory into which I cannot pass without the word. Are y’all in it?
“Stop! Ninja Aim of Love”
Punaise - talk to the hand.
wesgpc (”The Economist”?)
Why not have every Dem just point out the history, point out what a strange coincidence it is, and ridicule it?
What about submitting questions to the Post online columns, TeddySanFran provides links the night before. Let’s get this pathetic attack busted before it even happens.
Larry at 17
good one, now I can’t get teh song out of my head… actually i’ll download it for my i-pod
As one poster said over at TalkLeft, look out for Karate Chops of mass destruction.
Well I guess if they can’t get boots on their own, the only logical next step is to attack with bare feet.
Thank God for Alberto Gonzales.
Jesus. What more need be said? Oh yeah:
“There is no imminent threat to Miami or any other area because of these operations,” said Richard Kolko, spokesman for FBI headquarters in Washington. He declined further comment.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13497335
Hmmm, no imminent threat huh? Good. Let’s arrest them then.
As for those other actual imminent threats, say:
“BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN U.S.”:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOL.....ust6.memo/
just discard that one please. Move along…
Nice read but Al Queda is just as phony.
911 was an inside job.
The idea is we are beginning to learn how this propaganda is created and inflated thru the system. We can work our way up the food chain just like Fitzgerald, catching them earlier each time.
Someone on here had a husband who is in a PR firm with some knowledge about how these attacks are formed. Yoohoo?
Sean-Paul has more on Murtha:
http://agonist.org/sean_paul_k.....oat_murtha
From the Time story: “To his end, the group asked the undercover agent for a wish-list of equipment that included boots, uniforms, machine guns, bullet-proof vests, radios and vehicles %u2014 as well as $50,000 in cash.”
Sounds to me like strutting around, spouting all the right buzzwords that you hear on the news, is a good way to score some bling.
http://www.physics911.net/
Want a laugh? Check the pix of these soon to be called “The Miami Seven”. Looks can be deceiving I well know. But…
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
Sorry punaise, but I am laughing so hard I can hardly type./Talk to the hand. Priceless.
On topic
The Nexus of Politics and Terror
Thank Jihad It’s Friday
How about a masssive press release - “Prepare for the Right’s attack on Murtha” - include the link to the website still under construction (?)
We (NYNetRoots) still have a list of press contacts from the CtG action…I’ll email Jay.
Another suppress conference, another stop on the ongoing fear campaign. These clowns they picked up in Florida could be Super Duper Terrorists with competence coming out the wazoo, but the sole purpose for Alberto Gonzales’s going on the air was to spook the American public back into loving their Dear Leader.
When you consider that this performance came so soon after Rick Sanitorium’s nutty WMD show the other night you get a feel for just how desperate the Republicans are. I saw it said on another site, and it bears repeating here - when the Republicans say that they are looking forward to campaigning on the Iraq War, they are lying. They are scared. If you’re anywhere near D.C., that’s what that smell is - fear. Dems need to keep hitting the Republicans again and again and again on their incompetent handling of the War.
Will they though?
mommybrain -32 is that a good thing or a bad thing? hmmm:
“Talk to the hand” is often considered to be a sarcastic, or obnoxious phrase, and is commonly associated with urban black youths, especially black women, as well as teenage valley girls who adopted it.
The “one trick pony” administration. How *yawn* predictable. The only ones fooled by this are those blind by choice.
BTW, did I tell everyone what a major hottie Taylor Marsh is?
Think the spinmeisters got their calender mixed up? That terrist story would get more mileage on Fri eve. Wonder what may be in store this eve.
Taylor - Meanwhile the machine still manages to get in all terror talking points. Recently local television started airing missing children alerts. Nearly every friday evening a fourteen year old girl goes missing, for a couple of hours. Does anyone hear or respond to a car alarm anymore?
Thanks Taylor for another great post.
OfT: tom - chicago.
We’ve told you this before, it’s called a “forge.”
Punaise, it’s the image (and it fits with your def) of every singer I’ve ever seen who does that song. “STOP (holds up the hand) Ninja name of love”. Teehee.
I don’t usually repost my EPU-s, but since this one was partly a tribute to EPU, I think I should - to bring it full circle. From belowthread.
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I wanna live THIS universe (described by EPU below)*g*:
We already have a Bill of Rights the purpose of which is (not was, is), among other things, to protect our privacy.
. . .
We don’t need MORE privacy rights, we need the ones the constitution already provides enforced.
Exactly. More legislation ignores the issue of signing statements and secret Exec orders and a DOJ run amok - all of which are operating independent of any Constitutional controls, safeguards, checks, balances, etc.
Adding more legislation when you can’t competently deal with what you have is like taking fertility treatments when you can’t feed the kids you have. Congress needs to quit screwing around for a bit and return this to where it is a nation of laws before spinning wheels in the mud writing NEW laws.
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Christy 57 (below) -that was my first thought too. OTOH, we haven’t seen if they are all going to be taken handed over into secret military detention with no habeas by the FLA USA yet ;-)
I have no call on whether the round up is PR, good investigation work, appropriate caution, or misplaced clampdowns on grousers. I do tend to feel a teeny bit better that we might actually find out which IF it is all handled like a regular criminal proceeding. Evidence, consitutional safeguards, attorneys, that kind of piffle that Padilla trashed.
The down side for Rover - he can’t support his “we HAVE to treat them all as enemy combatants and torture in military secret” and SIMULTANEOUSLY get his uptick PR about what a good job everyone is doing with the constant CNN coverage.
I’m pretty willing to believe that some people DID did do a very good job - but much less so than once upon a time. A Justice Dept policy of handing suspects over to the military and disappearing the surveilled into secret detention for torture interrogation does tend to shake that faith just a bit.
It’ll be awhile before I buy more pom poms.
No, the fake stories come out on Thursday, get into the papers on Friday, and then the Sunday talking heads devote their entire shows to the latest right-wing nut-tank version of the truth.
Oh and it’s paid for by your tax dollars. Have a happy day!
torn at 36,
I believe Al Qaida and PNAC are two sides of the same coin, with AQ being a subsidiary. Maximum war profiteering, looting the US treasury, and consolidating world hegemony is their goal, and they are succeeding according to plan.
RagingGurrl 1:33 - love that idea! a preemptive strike! I hope it works.
mommybrain - I had to “think it oooover”
OK, my bad.And my apologies. I took it the wrong way.I DID do the visual, that’s what cracked me up.
Punaise - or is it “STOP Ninja NAMBLA love?”
I hear they got this guy too.
http://www.marylen.com/jpegs/reptiles/turtle1.jpg
I do not understand this quote from the time.com article:
“The oaths of allegiance to the organization alleged by the indictment to have been taken by the accused were administered not by any representative of the organization, but to a U.S. government agent posing as a Qaeda operative.”
Does time.com mean that the government agent administered the al-Qaeda loyalty oaths to the Miami Seven? Rather than the claim in the indictment that it was the other way around?
For people whose job it is to write, the time.com writers really confused me on this one. Perhaps that was the intent?
Misc. thoughts:
1. I actually do NOT think Karl The Coward is behind the Miami arrests. I really think it’s more over-anxious G-men and DOJ lawyers who want to “do something”. I question their judgment. Looong ago, suppose the G-men and/or DOJ idiots had just decided to “talk” to these kids. “Hey people…we know what you been talking about. Ya’ll need to cool it. You’re going down the wrong road. Even idle chatter about joining up with al queda is a mistake. If you’re out of work, let us help you find jobs” etc etc etc. But no. The G-men and DOJ needed their little arrest…and so they arrested doofus and dimwit.
2. As to Murtha….yep! That IS draft dodging Karl The Coward Rove! No doubt. But we know how to handle Karl The Coward…each in our own special way.
3. ** the way to learn how we’re hurting Karl The Coward is to observe his points of attack. He’ll always attack where HE feels most vulnerable. Just a little intel. And…Murtha scares the political crap out of Karl The Coward.
Ghostman
eewwww…NAMBLA…creepy
Regarding the swiftboating of Murtha. I agree with the TRex approach. Attaaaack!
Why do you hate veterans? Why do you insist on giving aide and comfort to the enemy? Are the sons and daughters of America just blunt instruments for you to drop when you are done? Why do you hate America?
Punaise, of course it is. That’s why I want it stopped!
RagingGurrl, I third mommybrain’s second of your idea. Absolutely excellent to strike first. Can someone do a whois on that website so we can do some oppo research?
We don’t need MORE privacy rights, we need the ones the constitution already provides enforced.
Mary, I am really glad you reposted, I missed it.
This “post 9/11″ US is looking so “post Nuremburg” (Germany after 1933).
There is a danger here and it is called crying, Wolf, once too often. Anyone remember the Northeast bank scare based on years old photos? The attack on LA that appeared out of nowhere and disappeared almost as quickly because it too was based on iffy info years old? This episode strikes me more in line with the Lackawanna guys. They had just enough of a brush with the bad guys to be anointed terrorists and cowed into plea bargains. Look for the Florida ninjas to show up in future references to “thwarted plots” and “anti-terrorist victories”. I agree that the AG’s thinking is it’s summer the news cycle is slow and mostly negative so why not use the lack of competing stories to build up your anti-terrorist cred? Except, of course, that if catching tools who have Take me printed on their backs is the best that this Administration can do, it makes me feel less not more safe since it makes me wonder where the real bad guys are and what they are up to. I don’t know and our government clearly doesn’t know either.
And well timed too, as dick cheney happens to be in Chicago for a speech today.
But ninjas are really, really scary! I saw this movie once, “The Three Ninjas,” and everyone was like you guys–they thought the ninjas were just silly children, but you know, they like totally kicked butt. And ninjas have a diverse network that stretches across America. They’re listed in the phone book under their code name, “Martial Arts Schools.”
Sheesh!
Peace,
Tim
http://timsnamelessblog.blogspot.com/
The commeneter siun works on political PR, I think. What does advice does he/she have about the upcoming Murtha smear.
All military should beware. Wingnuts are sharpening their knives to stab you in the back. The party of priviledge in the ranks of duck and cover insist on shutting down the freedoms here at home you so valiantly fight for abroad. So when you come home, please remember, if you do not sit at their table, you are on the menu.
John C - it’s really quoting from EPU. He is omnithoughtful. ;-)
Op99 - It must suck to be omniscient, how depressing.
Sometimes. But then a comment like this comes along and makes it all worthwhile:
Wesgpc @ 23 “#19: Wow. They really do have the same playbook with just a couple of plays in them….”
And since someone - hmmmm, hmmmmm, EPU - has been stating that for a really long time, I realize my omniscience can have a positive effect.
;-)
No Wesgc’s were harmed in the typing of this post.
I called the number listed on the DNS for www.murthalied.com - it’s for Network Solutions. There’s only a P.O. box, and no email addy.
Has anyone called Murtha’s office yet?
Thanks Mary, sorry EPU.
BobbyG: from prior thread, see this link re my reference to “penumbra.” Look at the “other meaning” for the reference to 1st Amendment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penumbra
I agree that the Constitution was written to protect “privacy” in some substantial degree. I agree with Mary that if the government and the Supreme Court would honor that intent, our rights would be fine. But the “right to privacy” is implied, not literally stated (”express”), and with this Supreme Court we can’t trust how they’ll interpret it or even that they’ll honor precedent. That’s all I meant by the “not express” comment.
Did someone say NINJAS?
http://www.etsy.com/view_item......_id=236458
I like to think of EPU as the FDL SinSay. But without the rattail.
I guess TEAM LOSER doesn’t see the irony in claiming American Ninjas as serious “terrorist” threats. But I do, I’m good with irony that way.
Then again, these are the same people who hailed it as a MAJOR VICTORY the capture of a “terrorist” who planned to bring down the Brooklyn (it might have been Manhattan) Bridge with a blow torch.
C&L’s clip featuring Tony Snow’s Hair wherein he explains how they’ve got to keep the secret spyin techniques a secret, cuz the terrists might find out how we’re spyin on em. (Of course, the three co equal branches of gubmint can take a f**kin hike, too. - but that’s another story.)
My point is, that with all their super secret sophisticated spyin techniques, why is it that the best they can come up with is a bunch of Wanabe kids in Miami?
These rethuglicans are the sorriest pack of criminal d**kheads I’ve ever witnessed.
Josh Marshall is on fire today/Quote:
Consider this post an open letter to Senate Democrats.
You’re really doing a poor job in the public debate over Iraq.
Luckily, unlike what’s imagined by the imbeciles who write The Note and others in Washington, reality is not simply a DC media and politics confection. The Dems can muff this several times before coming back and getting it right. And they’d still be more or less fine. Because the Iraq War is still really unpopular. And the great majority of the country has lost faith in President Bush’s conduct of the war.
But that’s still no excuse for handling this so poorly.
The Democrats have to be much more aggressive. But ‘more aggressive’ doesn’t mean a quicker withdrawal. It means making your point forcefully, on your own terms, repeatedly.
….. many people on this site are saying the same thing. Democrats in power are you listening?
Mary - You know, if my blog personal were not THE EPU, it was going to be Sensei Shun. True story.
EPU 82 - hat tip!
I’m not convinced we shouldn’t have more privacy rights. TeddySF’s comment in prior thread pointed out the need for a privacy right wrt to our personal medical history and how it’s used/misused, and how the absence of an explicity right allows it to be bought/sold for purposes we never intended. Does the Constitution protect that right? Well, it should, but it doesn’t do so expressly, and we can’t trust the Supremes to extend the principles to cover these situations. So I don’t agree that we don’t need more rights spelled out and protected — in this or any other universe.
EPU #73: dude, I have thought that, like, forever. I guess we both move with the Force in synch due to some kind of karmic somethingorother. Great minds run down the same gutter, as they say. Let us concentrate our thought waves and spread the truth!
Florida ninja turtle taskmaster codenamed Harriet is reported dead in Australia. FBI and DOJ claim another victory on the war on terror. “It took us 175 years,” AG Alberto Gonzales said today, “but we got her. Osama’s next.” Gonzales went on to predict that Osama would be in custody by 2181 “at the latest.”
From the Time article:
But their only “connection” with al-Qaeda appears to have been the fact that a government informant who had infiltrated their ranks had apparently convinced the alleged conspirators that he was, in fact, a Qaeda operative. The oaths of allegiance to the organization alleged by the indictment to have been taken by the accused were administered not by any representative of the organization, but to a U.S. government agent posing as a Qaeda operative
Seems absolutely clear to me. It was a government set-up.
Mary, EPU, and punaise, would y’all please let us tardy provincials in on whut yore talkin’ about? Tha-aink yew.
So, we’ve got government agents going around to disaffected, loosely organized groups of young men, claiming to be al-Qaida, accepting shopping lists from these men for boots, guns, and cameras, and then swearing their allegiance to al-Qaida. This is how our federal government is using the vast powers it’s abrogated to itself under the Unitary Executive Theory?
Seriously, for all the rights of ours they’ve taken away like thieves in the night, with no legislative oversight or judicial review, they capture NINJAS? This is the best they can do?
Does this one go in the file marked Incompetence, Idiocy, or Over-Hype?
I thought about Anti Sipsei Shun until I discovered I’d have to sing back up on ketchup commercials.
Condiments are anathema to me.
Not a true story. *g*
Thanks for the shout-out, scarecrow. I didn’t want to re-post my EPU’d comment; simply getting it written and posted seemed to be the catharsis I needed. That you read it makes me feel even better.
When did you find your w, by the way? I noticed it missing earlier, and now it seems to have re-appeared!
Hugh,
“Gonzales went on to predict that Osama would be in custody by 2181 “at the latest.”
Well, I don’t know. That sounds like an arbitrary timetable to me. That’s giving Osama our playbook. He can just wait it out ; )
RagingGurrl @ 74
Yeah. Message machine @ both numbers.
“Does this one go in the file marked Incompetence, Idiocy, or Over-Hype?”
I don’t know which file is correct, but Mr. Ted-SF has the correct choices!
Ghostman
screcrow 76
“…But the “right to privacy” is implied, not literally stated (”express”)…”
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Understood that such is the common interpretation. But, respectfully, it’s wrong. If the phrase “secure in their persons, papers, houses, and effects” is not an aggregate constitutional synonym for the exact word “privacy,” then words have no meaning whatsoever. And, we know what the Framers intended by those words, subsequent political and jurisprudential disregard notwithstanding.
Had to turn Wolf off when he had two “experts” on to discuss this - the adenoidal right-wing twat, Terry Jeffrey, wouldn’t let the other guy even utter the words “just another political stunt”.
Cindy Abram is Murtha’s Communications Director. She’s in the PA office. Contact info here:
http://www.house.gov/murtha/.
I could fax her info about the site -
Taylor, are there more details we can give her?
You can email me RagingGurrl ya h00.
TeddySF — Always read your comments with respect. Re the *, sometimes I don’t have time to get dressed and show up without my w. The * is a figleaf.
Mary,
Condi is anathema to me too and I have given up on rice because of this Administration.
I’m taking the afternoon off from studying I guess - and no, the fact that I am studying does NOT interfere with my omniscience).
Scarecrow and Teddy - In theory it sounds like a great idea to have a constitutional amendment on privacy. But that is in theory - if you start opening the Constitution up to amendment at this particular point in our political history the odds are you will get plenty of amendments that you (and I) would abhor.
I cringe whenever I hear someone talk about a Constuttional Convention. It is a brilliant document as is - and it is not the problem. The problem is the Legislature and, to a certain extent, the Judiciary have abdicated their roles under that document.
In other words it is not the articles or amendments, it is the people who are charged with upholding those articles and amendments. At the end of the day, words are just words.
And, as always, be careful what you wish for.
Hugh: According to the Enquirer, Laura has taken up fried rice. Opposite action, but similar underlying rationale.
This news story reminds me of the John le Carre novel The Tailor of Panama (except for the fact that this is a much more absurd “plot”).
The next chapter in the Rove playbook will be to start using DHS terror alerts before the mid-term elections. Anyone want to guess how many days will pass before we go to Def Con Orange?
BobbyG — we’re talking past each other. I agree with your interpretation of the Constitution, but neither you nor I are on the Supreme Court, while those who are do not share our preferences. For clarity, I should have said, “the word ‘privacy’ does not appear, though for us that is clearly what the actual words mean.” Okay?
Lotus - Which part?
As to whether rights are stated or implied in the Constitution, it does us no good if the Bush Administration ignores them, Specter threatens hearings that don’t happen or are fixed, and the Supremes take the view that rights are for chumps.
TeddySanFran 89
The undercover Feds joined their ranks, set up and captured the notorious Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
The SinSay/Sensei part, EPU. Who dat?
I’m afraid I haven’t been able to follow this story very well, so I just want to make sure I got this right: seven dudes dressed in black costumes tried to take Rick Santorum’s WMDs away from him, but he started crying, so the FBI busted the bullies and made them give the mustard gas back.
Is that something like right?
Murtha needs to come out and say, “I heard they were going to swiftboat me,” before they actually start it. Make a pre-emptive strike.
EPU — I agree; I did not suggest a Constitutional convention, which I too believe would be extremely risky. The topic was, I thought, possible legislation on privacy, and even on that, I expressed deep reservations about the wisdom of the current legislators. But if the question is merely the abstract one about whether we should have more “privacy rights” recognized and codified, I would answer “yes.”
lotus - that leg of it started at EPU #82
Lotus - It is all a play on the word “Sensei”
Sensei (%u5148%u751F, Sensei?) is a Japanese title used to refer to or address teachers, professionals such as doctors and lawyers, politicians, and other authority figures. It is also used to show respect to someone who has achieved a certain level of mastery in an art form or some other skill: accompished novelists, musicians, and artists are addressed with the title in this way
No, no, no — no Constitutional Convention, EVER!
The only people who want a Constitutional Convention are the wingnuts, I’ve noticed. I learned at Pam’s House Blend, the fundies are agitating for one because Congress won’t stop the gays from marrying!
http://www.pamspaulding.com/we.....ntion.html
Wull, I got lost at Mary’s 78, punaise.
Ah! Thanks, EPU!
lotus - I get convoluted, and you never really know if someone is following me or we just had a random intersect.
But I thought the ninjas thing was reminescent of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (popular when some of my nieces and nephews were kids). They had a rat as their guide/leader aka sensei (see also, Karate Kid).
Under the hear it, say it approach to defining Hearsay, though, for EPU I think we are more in SinSay territory.
Rule # 1: Never believe anything the Bush administration says.
My guess is these clowns were playing the informant for all he was worth in terms of procuring goodies (illegal and otherwise). They told him what they thought he wanted to hear. In other words, they were entrapped.
Mary,
Dinner at the Bushes: Dubya talking about how he likes dark meat, Laura angrily mashing her rice, Jenna and not Jenna grimacing because the wine tastes bitter after the cocktails. Family values Bush style.
al-Scooter, there’s more to the story….
seven gay Mexican Muslim dudes dressed in black sequined costumes tried to take Rick Santorum’s dog’s WMDs away from him, but he started crying, so the FBI infiltrated the bullies and made them give the seersucker suit and pink tie back to Little Rickie’s dog.
“They had a rat as their guide/leader” and curiously so do we.
Thanks to all. My whirled is limited as to Tenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and The Karate Kid, therefore my confusion. Now to go back and snatch up all them goodies . . .
Or Teenage MNTs, either.
Oh, dear… I just realized that my earlier “fighting them over there…” thought was prompted by something I read over at Kos, authored by his acolyte mcjoan. Now I’ll never get my kosphone.
Which reminds me, does Kommander Kos keep his Kosphone in his Kodpiece?
Now, a-Scooter and TeddySF, them I kin folly.
I do not want to make too much fun of infiltation into potential terrorist groups. That is what the feds should have been doing from the beginning, instead of their foolish, counterproductive and unjust dragnets of Muslim men right after 9/11. If these sadsacks are all there are, then it is a good thing they were caught, no matter how remote the threat. My question is, are we able to and actually doing this with serious and really dangerous international terrorist cells in the US? Isn’t this the usual approach to homegrown rightwing terro