Comments on: Privacy For The Common Good http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:43:02 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: DaVinci Codex http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-157917 DaVinci Codex Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:38:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-157917 <p>The messenger IS part of the message.</p> <p>Hillary is Triangulator Extraordinnaire; second only to her DLC husband, whose charm and frequent honesty she totally lacks.</p> <p>Whoever wrote that comment about (paraphrased) “we already HAVE privacy guarantees in the Bill of Rights, so we don’t need a new Hillary-approved privacy rights rights bill — grandstanding pabulum” was dead bang right.</p> <p>Stop being so grateful for Vichy Democrat stale crumbs. Hillary is doing anti-Constitution Repugs a BIG favor by ignoring the bedrock laws that exist (and are being raped daily) by introducing her latest version of anti-flag-burning or music-lyric-bashing. Whatever makes her Redder and more palatable to gung-ho war mongers. Who would never support Clinton if their life and souls depended on it.</p> <p>The messenger DOES carry the message content. And if we should give Hillary an anonymity pass on this one — the argument that this issue is too important to tar with the proponent’s lousy record — then we need to ask her why she and her NY buddy Schumer worked to shit on Russ Feingold’s resolution. Great message-bearing, Hills.</p> The messenger IS part of the message.

Hillary is Triangulator Extraordinnaire; second only to her DLC husband, whose charm and frequent honesty she totally lacks.

Whoever wrote that comment about (paraphrased) “we already HAVE privacy guarantees in the Bill of Rights, so we don’t need a new Hillary-approved privacy rights rights bill — grandstanding pabulum” was dead bang right.

Stop being so grateful for Vichy Democrat stale crumbs. Hillary is doing anti-Constitution Repugs a BIG favor by ignoring the bedrock laws that exist (and are being raped daily) by introducing her latest version of anti-flag-burning or music-lyric-bashing. Whatever makes her Redder and more palatable to gung-ho war mongers. Who would never support Clinton if their life and souls depended on it.

The messenger DOES carry the message content. And if we should give Hillary an anonymity pass on this one — the argument that this issue is too important to tar with the proponent’s lousy record — then we need to ask her why she and her NY buddy Schumer worked to shit on Russ Feingold’s resolution. Great message-bearing, Hills.

]]> By: molly http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-157750 molly Sat, 24 Jun 2006 23:29:58 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-157750 <p>Hillary would be doing her job by asking for impeachment of Bushco because they have broken laws guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. Asking for new laws to protect old ones broken everyday by fascists isn’t progressive…it’s stupid.</p> Hillary would be doing her job by asking for impeachment of Bushco because they have broken laws guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. Asking for new laws to protect old ones broken everyday by fascists isn’t progressive…it’s stupid.

]]> By: Upper West http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-156650 Upper West Sat, 24 Jun 2006 05:07:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-156650 <p>Privacy is the key — change from “pro-choice” to “pro-privacy” — Then you’re broadening the audience to include those concerning with all aspects of privacy — wiretapping, etc., and abortion, birth control and the Schiavo cases.</p> <p>The Dem. slogan should be “Security, Privacy and Justice.”</p> Privacy is the key — change from “pro-choice” to “pro-privacy” — Then you’re broadening the audience to include those concerning with all aspects of privacy — wiretapping, etc., and abortion, birth control and the Schiavo cases.

The Dem. slogan should be “Security, Privacy and Justice.”

]]> By: MsAnnaNOLA http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-156539 MsAnnaNOLA Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:22:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-156539 <p>martha</p> <p>thanks for the thought. As I understand it they have the right to cancel the policy. There is a chance they won’t but I bet if the can they will or they will raise the rates beyond what she can afford. She and Dad have their own business so she is not really leaving the group so COBRA would not apply. She would stay in the group but the either the group’s rates will go sky high or they won’t renew the group’s coverage. Then when they try to go to a new company the same will happen. We will see how it goes but I think that if the insurance companies can get away with getting rid of you while you are sick they will.</p> martha

thanks for the thought. As I understand it they have the right to cancel the policy. There is a chance they won’t but I bet if the can they will or they will raise the rates beyond what she can afford. She and Dad have their own business so she is not really leaving the group so COBRA would not apply. She would stay in the group but the either the group’s rates will go sky high or they won’t renew the group’s coverage. Then when they try to go to a new company the same will happen. We will see how it goes but I think that if the insurance companies can get away with getting rid of you while you are sick they will.

]]> By: professor rat http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-156246 professor rat Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:56:59 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-156246 <p>Bobby G and EPU I hear you!<br /> The forth ammendments been trashed by three crime waves - Watergate, Iran/contra and now, Yellowgate. The Dems could whip up a killa fear campaign on this trashing of original privacy rights by a gang of serial criminals.<br /> Go law-and-order on their ass! Three strikes and yr out! Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time!</p> <p>‘ Clipper chip’ Hillary is all wrong for this particular issue and she’s freezing out the roots. Fuck that bs. We don’ need no steenkin’ ‘name’ candidates. We just need Digby to keep digging. ( Love to J)</p> Bobby G and EPU I hear you!
The forth ammendments been trashed by three crime waves – Watergate, Iran/contra and now, Yellowgate. The Dems could whip up a killa fear campaign on this trashing of original privacy rights by a gang of serial criminals.
Go law-and-order on their ass! Three strikes and yr out! Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time!

‘ Clipper chip’ Hillary is all wrong for this particular issue and she’s freezing out the roots. Fuck that bs. We don’ need no steenkin’ ‘name’ candidates. We just need Digby to keep digging. ( Love to J)

]]> By: Shell http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-156061 Shell Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:25:27 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-156061 <p>Eureka: You got it!</p> Eureka: You got it!

]]> By: whyte http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-156025 whyte Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:02:42 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-156025 <p>ShrillHil. NeoLib. anything good from hil is a calculated play. what with the anti-gore protest today, it appears karl is doing a little moonlighting for ShrillHil. not to be trusted.</p> ShrillHil. NeoLib. anything good from hil is a calculated play. what with the anti-gore protest today, it appears karl is doing a little moonlighting for ShrillHil. not to be trusted.

]]> By: DAB http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-156021 DAB Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:01:25 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-156021 <p>So they can and have been spying on bank records, but why after almost five years they can’t tell us who benefited at Wall street on 9/11?</p> So they can and have been spying on bank records, but why after almost five years they can’t tell us who benefited at Wall street on 9/11?

]]> By: Eureka Springs, AR http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-156012 Eureka Springs, AR Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:54:16 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-156012 <p>Shell - I believe, sorry we did not meet here or in SF along the way. LOL perhaps we did. On your billionth anniversary err second honeymoon lets all meet for lunch :)</p> Shell – I believe, sorry we did not meet here or in SF along the way. LOL perhaps we did. On your billionth anniversary err second honeymoon lets all meet for lunch :)

]]> By: RevDeb http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-155998 RevDeb Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:45:01 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/23/privacy-for-the-common-good/#comment-155998 <p>Late to the party and I know there’s another thread open, BUT I read Hil’s privacy proposal the other day and was dumbfounded that there was nothing about medical privacy, end of life decision privacy, choice privacy, etc. </p> <p>Am I missing something here? I know that these are wedge issues and she’d rather ignore them, but how can anyone talk about privacy and leave these so glaringly out?</p> Late to the party and I know there’s another thread open, BUT I read Hil’s privacy proposal the other day and was dumbfounded that there was nothing about medical privacy, end of life decision privacy, choice privacy, etc.

Am I missing something here? I know that these are wedge issues and she’d rather ignore them, but how can anyone talk about privacy and leave these so glaringly out?

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