
There's clearly no intelligent life here.
Things are apparently getting even uglier over at the NRO. In what can only be termed as a truly ghastly turn of events, they're holding a Star Trek-themed on-line pledge drive. (You know what? I like that as an entirely hyphenated word, like He-who-shall-not-be-named, Star-Trek-themed-on-line-pledge-drive.) Thus sprach K-Lo:
If by noon L.A.-time on Friday (an olive branch to our left-coast friends) NRO’s Star Trek fans have donated $10,000 cumulatively, we will host a Star Trek Day on National Review Online later this month. Our lineup that day will include a package of pieces—from some familiar faces, and some surprises—all about Star Trek. As you donate, just be sure to write “pro-Trek” in the comments somewhere.
God, don't you know she has to totally FORCE herself not to put exclamation points on everything? ("An olive branch to our left-coast friends!!!", "...All about Star Trek!!!", "Please don't use my Vanilla Hazelnut creamer again without asking, Jonah!!!! Thanks!!!!!! KJL 

")
Her movie review of the new film Click? It's called (no, really!) "Click Clicks". Can't you feel the phantom exclamation points just hovering out there? It's like Byron York (she thinks he's dreamy...) told her one day that if she kept larding on the exclamation points, no one would ever take her seriously as a writer. So she stopped using them. But that's absolutely all she changed, so now they're still there, floating invisibly at the ends of her sentences like amputated limbs.
And these people want you to give them money so they can keep writing like this!
I believe I will let my new favorite blogger, D. Cloyce from Cloyce's Coffee Klatsch (Fully caffeinated and 100% plagiarism free!™) take it from here:
Nevertheless, far be it from my sense of decency to leave untouched the comedic material provided by the NRO's campaign. What nearly stills my poison pen from heaping scorn on their efforts, however, is the aura of utter pathos that emanates from the fundraising appeal written by the magazine's editor Rich Lowry.
Thank god he said "nearly"!
Rich continues by offering some expert business advice:
Because—let me be frank here—we lose money. NRO is a loss leader. And here’s what’s unfortunate—the print magazine is a loss leader too. We are surrounded by loss leaders. If we ever have ideas to further our mission, they are guaranteed to be loss leaders. If your business needs advice on how to develop a loss leader, come to us. We have it down. I assure you we can help you start to lose money almost immediately. It’s our specialty. We have been doing it for 50 years and hope to keep doing it for many more.
In case you didn't get the message, Lowry is admitting that the National Review is a loss leader. Which begs the question: what exactly are these losses leading their customers to? The Ninth Circle? Kool-Aid? A weird political cult?
In the real business world, a loss leader is designed to attract customers, who will then buy items that will make a profit; by definition, loss leaders only work as such if you make a profit on something else. For example, Wal-Mart uses "everyday items" as loss leaders, knowing that their customers, once in the store, might make some purchases that are steeply marked up. Even Amazon discounts some of their books as high as 60% in the hope that book buyers will add other, more profitable items to their shopping carts.But how are the National Review's magazine or its site or its advertising "loss leaders"? Is Lowry really claiming that all the NR's business revenues are loss leaders for their fundraising? Or, as I suspect, does Lowry, the editor for a magazine that claims to represent business and conservative interests, have no idea what this term means?
Cloyce, I believe that you have hit the nail squarely on its wee, flat head. He keeps using that word, but I do not think it means what he thinks it means.
Seriously, though. You should drop those kids at the NRO a couple bucks if you can spare it. They provide an invaluable service to satirists like myself. Where else would we get such potent ammunition against conservatives? Who else could have brought us Ramesh Ponnuru? (Who would have bothered?) Where else can we find lists of the Top 50 Conservative Rock Songs? (But behind a subscription wall so the artists won't sue!) And who can imagine life without that "Superfly Conservative" Jonah Goldberg? (Ah, Jonah. The poster child for it not being about What You Know, but Who Your Mommy Is. The ne plus ultra of doughy pantloads.)
You must subscribe to the NRO, if only to line that gilded bird cage with dollar bills from whence our Jonah can order whole pizzas for lunch and play Minesweep. (And very occasionally excrete a column, of course.)
Come on, y'all! Don't you want to see the NRO "Live Long and Prosper"? It's the in-flight magazine of the Wingnut Welfare lifestyle! Dig deep, man! Dig deep!
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Jane!
Yeah FDL!
Oh and Fitz!
Aw, three of my favorite Firepups got the first three comments.
FDL! Alone at last!
I can’t believe you EPU’d me (well, I can, it’s poetic actually).
I am PROUD I tell you of my post late on the last thread. It only makes sense there, so I won’t post it here, but still.
CT Bob! What do you make of the coverage the CT race is now getting? Saw the sad little piece on Lehrer, but at least people are starting to get the vibe.
Perhaps NRO is some sort of ideological loss leader. Sure, they lose money on paper, but conservatives gain overall by having yet another outlet for their talking points.
BTW, I would contribute if their “Star Trek Day” included Jonah and Byron fighting to the death with those big Vulcan battle-axes, for the privilege of mating with the divine K-Lo.
Brrrr-AHH!
I’m sorry, I guess that should have been K’Lo.
No, I’m not even remotely geeky, I swear.
Well, it will probably do better than their Heman and Shera Themed Pledge Drive.
Sorry if anyone suffers a seizure from that imagery.
I think “Beam Me Up, Spotty” — said in a properly British way — is more on the mark.
Personally, I think Lowry revealed that NRO is a loss leader for the whole fascist undertaking. What their losses “buy” for them is a Potemkin style illusion that there is some public support, somewhere, for the dismantling of the whole American experiment in democracy (with the concomitant dumping of the entire U.S. Treasury into the pockets of the gazillionaires).
OTOH, you could also see it as a much, much smaller economic unit than that. One that I would designate as “TNRO.” I mean, it *does* seem to us outsiders like TNR is working in tandem with NRO, doesn’t it???
TRex - thanks!
meta, it’s gonna get bigger and better as we progress.
I have to admit, I don’t think Joe can possibly do more to fuck up his chances than what he’s been doing lately. If I was to write a script for him to ensure Ned’s success, it would include speaking with the Republicans, voting against BOTH anti-war proposals, and lying about Lamont.
I posted this minutes ago, and it seems to indicate how clueless the Joe-mentum crowd really is:
http://ctbob.blogspot.com/2006.....ssues.html
I read the first paragraph and I thought, “TRex is just making shit up now. Even the welfare queens at the NRO have more pride than that.” But tragically, they do not.
Pop culture in the hands of wingnuts is a dangerous thing.
Priceless TRex.
“I’m a fan. I’m a sports fan, I’m a music fan, and I’m a Star Trek fan. All of them but here’s what I don’t do. Tell me if any of this sounds familiar. Let’s list our 10 favorite episodes. Let’s list our least favorite episodes. Let’s list our favorite galaxies. Let’s make a chart and see how often our favorite galaxies appear on our favorite episodes. What Romulan would you most like to see coupled with a Cardassian, and why? Let’s spend a weekend talking about Romulans falling in love with Cardassians and then let’s do it again? That’s not being a fan. That’s having a fetish, and I don’t have a problem with that except you can’t bring your hobbies into work. OK?”
yeah Jane!!!
Kaaaaahn!
Jaaaaane!
Did someone say He-Man & She-Ra?
“The Tribble With NRO”
Hey, Jane! Give my best to your family and kisses to Kobe, Katie and Lucy.
We miss you.
Umm…excrete a column? Oh my, TRex.
If we hadn’t shot him into space, Gene Roddenberry would be rolling in his grave right now.
Umm%u2026excrete a column? Oh my, TRex.
Mwaaah-haaaa-haaaaaa…
Sorry TRex for going OT so quickly. And this may have been noted here before, but…
Check out http://mojowire.blogspot.com/2.....3574465776
Also note that - unless I’m doing something seriously wrong - the site referenced has been denuded. Hmmm…
If we hadn’t shot him into space, Gene Roddenberry would be rolling in his grave right now.
Okay, so he’s… tumbling in orbit. How’s that?
Sorry. I misread that post. It has been mentioned here. Man, am I embarassed…
TRex, shouldn’t that be “The ne plus ultra of doughy pantloads”?
TRex, shouldn’t that be “The ne plus ultra of doughy pantloads”?
Could a young K-Lo be considered a “dewy pantload”?
doughy pan-toad
He He! TRex I think you hit the nail on the head they don’t understand what “loss leader” means. Have these people ever sold anything besides their ideological BS? I think not.
I guess this means they don’t sell enough ads to stay in business without the often cited wingnut welfare. So if they were just a bunch of journalists they would be out on their ass looking for a job.
Tragedy strikes NRO.
Tragedy struck NRO when,during the middle of a Star Trek themed pledged drive, an epidemic of poor manual dexterity resulted in all of the Losst Boys, plus Wendy-lo, inadvertently giving the peace sign.
Still don’t know why I don’t get a Jerry is a creep series.
doughy pan-toad
Doughy Plan Toad From Outer Space…
Again, I swear I am not a geek.
Jane!
Jane!!
TRex!!
I finally got beamed up. Dial-up problems.
I thought this part, If we ever have ideas to further our mission was sad. Poor Richie Rich. That Zinmeister guy should write a comic book to cheer him up. And make him a blonde in kneepants while he’s at it.
TRex, shouldn’t that be “The ne plus ultra of doughy pantloads”?
Thanks, Cujo. Corrected.
But what would Spock do?
CT Bob, that is completely unbelievable. Ned can surely top that. Honestly, I wish I could be there to campaign for him.
“Everyone who donates to NRO will get a complementary red Star Trek shirt to show that we’re all part of the same crew. Wear it proudly!”
Doughy Pantload from the Black Lagoon
Doughy Pantload Of La Mancha.
Doughy Pantload de la Vida
(Or, alternatively, The Doughy Pantload In The Iron Mask…)
I want a glass of what Mary’s having tonight, waitress.
Why can’t FDL have themed evenings? Perhaps we could have a contest to select a theme. All that day’s posts could be about the reader-selected theme.
Let’s hope santorum doesn’t win.
Let’s hope santorum doesn’t win.
That’s a pretty good theme right there…
Lowery “We exist to advance a worldview”
Blog-Borg - easy mistake to make at a Trekkie convention.
But what would Spock do?
After visiting NRO, he’d probably wonder why humans let close relatives breed so freely.
But what would Spock do?
After visiting NRO, he’d probably wonder why humans let close relatives breed so freely.
Especially after they accuse him of irrational Bush hatred.
Ay dunno, cap’n, the pantload is getting doughy and I think it’s going blow.
Wait–wait a minute. Hold on here. Are you telling me that the NRO people, in their non-political moments, are known Star Trek geeks? If this is some known thing and I’m just finding out about this now I am going to need a little lie-down. This might be the key to my unified field theory on psychological profile and political positions.
PS: All those desperately hooked on Hazelnut Creamer raise your hand.
meta - yeah, we can use the help. Even though Joe seems to be purposely trying to lose, he’s still got a lot of support from what his campaign manager Sean Smith refers to as “low-information voters”.
While that characterization should enrage CT voters, there’s just too little Nedformation out there (sorry about that awkward attempt, I’m getting a little punchy) and we need to get the word out about Ned and his message.
I’m desperately hoping the campaign will have enough money to match Joe’s war chest when it comes to TV and radio advertising leading into the primary, because it seems that while the “plugged in” voters (ie: blog readers) know who Ned is, there just hasn’t been enough saturation of those LIVs.
And we’re on Joe’s case as much as possible, trying to show how much of a neo-con he is, and why he won’t remain a Democrat if he loses the primary.
The more we can inform the voters here in CT, the better for Ned.
TeddySanFran @ 9:37 pm (#46) - Let’s hope santorum doesn’t win.
It’s a bit like watching a twit race - you wonder if anyone has what it takes to cross the finish line. I’ve said that if anyone can lose that election it’s Casey, but Santorum keeps trying to prove me wrong.
The needs of the pantload outweigh the needs of the few… or the one.
It’s a bit like watching a twit race - you wonder if anyone has what it takes to cross the finish line. I’ve said that if anyone can lose that election it’s Casey, but Santorum keeps trying to prove me wrong.
Oh, and Bob Casey has run himself over! What an outstanding twit!
Need to get some You-Tube of that warm John Warner introduction and the Santorum “highly articulate” endorsement of Rape Gurney Joe on the Senate floor the other day. That’ll hook the LIVs. (Did Smith really call them that? Do they know?)
CTBob, are there a lot of electronic voting machines up there?
Just, y’know, idly wondering…
CT Bob @ 9:42 pm (#53) - I saw Ned Lamont on The NewsHour tonight, and I’d have to say that TV time would do him good. He comes off well on camera, and would probably be his own best spokesman if he can talk convincingly from a script.
Bones: D*mmit Jonah, I can’t save it. A lame idea will be culled from the herd and relentlessly tracked down. There’s nothing we can do about it. I’m a surgeon, Jonah, not an editor.
What? York’s hair? D*mmit I just told you, I’m a surgeon, not a - a - a - H*ll Jonah, I don’t even know what that hair needs. Stylist? Landscape engineer? Topiarist? Shearer?
If Jonah Goldberg got drunk would he a be a Pickled Pantload or just Dill Doughy.
-GSD
What? York’s hair? D*mmit I just told you, I’m a surgeon, not a - a - a - H*ll Jonah, I don’t even know what that hair needs. Stylist? Landscape engineer? Topiarist? Shearer?
Whatever you do, don’t let it get near the quadrotriticale.
Dammit, Jim, I’m a pantload not a stain remover.
(I would also recommend not feeding Byron’s hair after midnight…)
WOW! Is this considered normal ? I never did watch star trek…
To loadly dough where no pantload had doughed before.
Eli - ditto the midnight thing, or there could be real tribble.
Glorfindel at 66:
To loadly dough where no pantload had doughed before.
LOL! That’s the best one so far!
Eli - ditto the midnight thing, or there could be real tribble.
Hence the prior quadrotriticale reference, despite me being not geeky at all in the teensy slightest.
The needs of the many outweigh the pantload of dough.
Eli - ditto the midnight thing, or there could be real tribble.
Boooooooooo!
And someone…shut that door.
How many of the Losst Boys do you think have their own lycra pants for the fundraiser? Or other things.
TRex has a warped sense of humor.
TRex has a warped sense of humor.
TRex has a warped sense of humor.
Hey TRex, are you there? Hoping this will get your attention. If you check the moderated comments, I can give you a tutorial as to how to get rid of the trolls and spam.
chisholm @ 9:41 pm (#52) - I think they said it best in A Fish Called Wanda:
The folks at the NRO see Star Trek, they just - well, you get it.
CT Bob, when you have to resort to insulting your constituency, well, life sucks. Joe seemed pretty equivocal about going independent if he loses. I’ve said it before, but desperation is just not pretty.
Eli - no, no EVM’s as far as I know. Hopefully our Democratic Sec. of State will remember to do her job.
Cujo - yes, that’s always been my hope, that they’ll get Ned on TV and talking more. It’s early still, and I’m sure the campaign is aware that Ned’s message will come across best if he is seen. That’s why I put together as many videos as possible of Ned speaking.
Miss you guys too. Just taking care of family business today. Looking forward to getting back.
My sister & family have been really grateful for everyone’s support.
Eli - no, no EVM’s as far as I know. Hopefully our Democratic Sec. of State will remember to do her job.
Music to my ears.
Jane, there have been have been a wealth of comments on the Sorrow thread, as well as on the later Gratitude thread. I am thinking of you.
Take care of yourself, Jane. The snark has not been the same without you.
meta, I don’t know if Smith’s statements about low information voters is on record, but judging from his Fox-News style smarminess, I’m sure he said it on camera somewhere, and he was smirking while he said it.
Ass that he is.
Paramount needs to know about this!
(exclamation courtesy of K-Lo)
I’m only here intermittently, Jane, but you have my sincere sympathies and best wishes.
meta, I don’t know if Smith’s statements about low information voters is on record, but judging from his Fox-News style smarminess, I’m sure he said it on camera somewhere, and he was smirking while he said it.
Aren’t they worried about Ned angling for a slice of the low-information pie?
Jane Hamsher @ 9:54 pm (#77) - The guests have been doing a good job, but we miss you anyway. Come back when you’re ready.
Let’s not forget the quintessential advice that William Shatner gave to the convention of SNL trekkies: “Get a life…” Frankly, I hope these folks don’t. Let them remain in their fantasy universe where they are relatively harmless to us humans.
Let’s not forget the quintessential advice that William Shatner gave to the convention of SNL trekkies: “Get a life%u2026″
“You there, with the hair - have you ever kissed a girl?”
Jane,
Please take as much time as you need. We really can carry on the struggle for a bit while you’re with your family. Take care, get plenty of rest, eat healthy, and drop in when you can.
We’ll keep a spot for you at the table.
This is probably not a new trend, but one newly seeing the light of day and garnering media attention: the Muslim marriage of convenience between gays and lesbians.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01417.html
Witless American # 1: “You’ve got your Doughy Pantload in my Trailer Trash Pie.”
Witless American # 2: “You got your Trailer Trash Pie in my Doughy Pantload!”
-GSD
I prefer my Trailer Trash Pie slathered with a little K-Lo Jelly.
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little…
Jane, we miss you terribly but hope you are where you need to be. Take good care. We are punchy and argumentative, as usual!
CT Bob at 53, do the “low-information voters” vote in primaries?
yo, op!
My favorite Star Trek episode is Boston Legal - yay Denny Crane!
For Jane, the Losst Boys, and because it seems to fit here:
http://www.offthemark.com/Imag.....trek03.gif
“All your tricorders are under surveillance…”
——–
“Court bars info request on NSA wiretapping”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....id_secrecy
“NEW YORK - A federal appeals court on Friday declined to force the government to turn over information on the National Security Agency’s wiretapping program to a man charged in a terrorism case.
The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in the case of Yassin Aref, an imam at an Albany mosque who is accused of laundering money for an
FBI informant posing as an arms dealer.
Aref wanted the government to say whether any of the evidence against him had been gathered through the warrantless electronic surveillance program, which has been challenged by some civil liberties groups.”…
——–
umm…IANAL…but can someone tell me WTF is up w/that/this?
They trap you, and THEN the NSA gets to do Cheney’s bidding?
op99 @ 10:05 pm (#94) - CT Bob at 53, do the “low-information voters” vote in primaries?
…, or are they typically unable to find their way to the polls?
Eli at 9:58 p.m.
“Aren’t they worried about Ned angling for a slice of the low-information pie?”
Oh, you mean, like, the TRAILER TRASH PIE?
Yo Teddy. Check the end of the Peterr thread #181 - I flamed you, lol.
Missing you Jane.
“All your tricorders are under surveillance%u2026″
All your starbase are belong to us.
Oh, you mean, like, the TRAILER TRASH PIE?
Exactly.
All your pie are belong to us.
-GSD
Hey Jane –
Glad to see you post — good to see your comments earlier today.
Hang in there . . .
“I love the smell of trailer trash pie in the morning; it smells like…”
NSA: All your subspace relay are belong to us. We say that? No, not we ever here.
Eli, you are on fire tonight.
Did I ever tell you my old band was named Eli?
“I love the smell of trailer trash pie in the morning; it smells like%u2026″
Catfood and ass.
It smells like catfood and ass.
CT Bob –
Are you in touch with Tim Tagaris? He’s the closest thing to a Lamont insider that I know of, and any campaign can always use some fine tuning . . .
Eli, you are on fire tonight.
Did I ever tell you my old band was named Eli?
Good Lord, man, WHY?
“Catfood And Ass” would be much better. Although I’ve settled on “Tantric Pinata” as my favorite nonexistent band or album name.
Memo to all FDL regulars —
there have been a lot of lurkers, posting heartfelt condolences in the sorrow and gratitude threads –
all of them deserve props, for sharing their stories and stepping out of the shadows . . .
Good Lord, man, WHY?
Because I saw these windmills in Texas that said, “ELI” on the blades of the wheel. I realized that all the letters are made of straight lines of three strokes or less. Print it an inch high and you can still read it 100 feet away. Very effective for flyers.
TRex:
What were you on at the time?
op99 (#93) - I guess that some do, because Smith seems to think they’re a large portion of their strategy.
The reality is, Lieberman will suffer if accurate information is available to those voters; they’re banking on keeping them dumb and feeding them a comfy, familiar image.
It’s our job to destroy that phony image and show the real face of Joe; a chickenhawk that wishes he had the balls to become a true Republican.
oh crap, it’s 1:20AM here…gonna go bedways. We have a sailboat race in the morning. Need rest for that. It’s not easy to race.
Ned’s a sailor too…he knows the stress involved in racing!
TRex- I just spammed the Freaky Friday thread. (Sorry all- TRex and I are having a WordPress driver’s test)
Maybe it’s the religion and politics discussion earlier, but that whole “we’ve got to raise $xxx before tomorrow, or else” reminds me of Oral Roberts up in his prayer tower, telling folks that unless people donate $xxx money to him, “God’s going to take me home.”
The late Chicago Tribune columnist Mike Royko had the best reaction to that. IIRC it went something like “If God really wanted to make an impact, God wouldn’t want Oral to raise that much money, so that ‘when I called him home, the world would sit up and take notice.’ That’ll get the world’s attention.
Perhaps what we need is a fund to collect money against
Oral RobertsThe New Republic, so for every dollar donated here, that’s one more dollar TNR needs to collect over there.May the Farce be with you. <snark
The NRO folks might like Star Trek, but you just know they would shut down Riisa if they could ;)
Because I saw these windmills in Texas that said, “ELI” on the blades of the wheel. I realized that all the letters are made of straight lines of three strokes or less. Print it an inch high and you can still read it 100 feet away.
I must figure out how to use this to my advantage.
ck - yeah, I talk to Tim Tagaris all the time. He shows up at a lot of Lamont events, and he’s a real trooper. I’m encouraged to see people like Tim working for Ned.
‘night!
ck- thanks. The comments on both of those threads have been amazing and heartwrenching.
“The reality is, Lieberman will suffer if accurate information is available to those voters; they’re banking on keeping them dumb and feeding them a comfy, familiar image.”
That settles it. Lieberman is getting help from Rove.
That settles it. Lieberman is getting help from Rove.
Has Ned been accused of infidelity, insanity, or insider trading?
What were you on at the time?
Central Daylight Savings Time, I think.
I quick scanned the posts here but I didn’t see anyone point out the delicious irony here.
NRO is going to have a sci-fi themed day based on the Star Trek universe (presumably leaning towards the Federation), which champions many core beliefs like:
1) No use for money.
2) The state cares for every single being’s basic needs.
3) The state aggressively protect the disadvantaged.
4) Free education subsidies.
5) Free universal health care.
6) A society that strongly believes in ‘politically correct’ discourse.
7) Dangerous weapons are only allowed in the hands of the military.
(I could think of more if I wasn’t half asleep.)
Hmmm, maybe the NRO will have a Klingon themed Star Trek day…
Kurt @ 10:21 pm (#118) - No, they’d just make the rest of us so poor that we couldn’t go there. You need to get up to speed on Republican scandals. It’s not your daddy’s Republican party anymore.
I must figure out how to use this to my advantage.
Well, you can see how great it worked for my band. I’m about as rich and famous as an old tea bag.