
As Washington Post columnist E.J. Dionne reported:
In what will be seen as a historic document, the president of the United Auto Workers, Ron Gettelfinger, issued a brave and somber report to his union, which opened its convention yesterday in Las Vegas.
"The kind of challenges we face aren’t the kind that can be ridden out," said Gettelfinger…."They’re structural challenges, and they require new and farsighted solutions."
After World War II, voters in rich countries entered a social democratic bargain in which capitalism became the bedrock of the economy, but was tempered by a large public sector and a unionized industrial sector that provided social insurance, education, pensions and health care.
One way that bargain can be restruck was illuminated by a few hundred janitors at the University of Miami last week. The janitors, who work for the University’s contractor, Unicco Services, chose overwhelmingly to join the Service Employees International Union. After a four-month strike, the union had reached an agreement with Unicco that the company would recognize the union if 60 percent of employees signed worker pledge cards. The count was stopped when workers reached 60 percent, although union officials said they had more than 70 percent support in the card check process.
The University of Miami victory comes several months after SEIU won one of largest unionization campaign in the South in years – bringing 5,000 janitors from several companies in Houston, TX into the union .
The victories at the University of Miami and in Houston are not just good news for janitors, they also send a hopeful message out to workers across the country. Traditional economists have been arguing for decades that we don’t need to worry about the decimation of this country’s manufacturing sector; workers will simply move on over into the service sector. Problem solved. The real problem, of course, is that manufacturing sector in this country was highly unionized, paying middle class wages and generous benefits. Few service sector jobs — janitors, fast food, hotels, retail, etc. — are unionized, and most provide low pay and few benefits.
The idea that the service sector can be organized, bringing higher pay and benefits along, provides some hope to those who forsee the disappearance of the American middle class. The hope of turning service workers into the new American middle class is the goal of many of today’s organizing campaigns, as related in a recent New York Times article by labor reporter Steven Greenhouse:
In a way, said Bruce Raynor, president of Unite Here, the service-sector unions hope to imitate the manufacturing unions of old. "Our goal is to move service-sector workers into the middle class," he said. "The manufacturing unions did that for factory workers. It took them 20 years to do that, and we hope to do the same thing."
The manufacturing unions have been devastated by globalization, with many companies insisting that America’s unionized factory workers are overpaid and their benefit packages too rich compared with overseas workers. Delphi, the beleaguered auto parts company, has repeatedly trumpeted this assertion as it called for cutting its workers’ $27-an-hour wages in half.
In contrast, the service-sector unions are largely immune to globalization — just try to outsource the job of a hamburger-flipper, hotel housekeeper or bedpan-emptier to China. Helping to make service-sector unions optimistic about attracting more members is the perception that workers like hotel housekeepers and janitors are underpaid and have skimpy benefits. Moreover, many of these workers are immigrants, who are often more enthusiastic about unions than native-born workers.
It’s 9 P.M., and Craig Jones has just finished dumping 400 trash cans’ worth of garbage into the Cincinnati Textile Building’s basement compactor. The weighty refuse he carries each night hardly fazes Jones after five years on the job, but the grime he has to scrub off dirty wastebaskets still gets to him a little. "Wiping spit is a tough thing to get used to," he says. Jones, 27, earns $6.50 an hour without benefits, vacation time or sick days. His employer, Professional Maintenance, a cleaning contractor, usually schedules him for just four hours a night, five nights a week, so Jones’ biweekly paycheck amounts to about $260, before taxes. The monthly rent for his spartan ground-level apartment in a once industrial part of town is $215, so there’s little left after phone and utility bills and food. He hasn’t bought a new piece of clothing in years.
Less than 300 miles away, Robyn Gray is in the midst of cleaning 48 kitchenettes, dusting 90 conference rooms and scrubbing 40 glass doors at One Mellon Center, a financial building in downtown Pittsburgh, Pa. Although her work is equally grueling, Gray, 44, is paid well, compared with Cincinnati, Ohio, janitors like Jones. For working a 9:30 p.m.–to–6 a.m., 40-hr.-a-week schedule, she earns $12.52 an hour and gets health insurance, three weeks’ vacation and three personal days a year. Her $26,000 annual salary has helped Gray and her husband–who works for a company that erects cell-phone towers–buy their own home, send their two daughters to college and even go on the occasional family vacation–in May they took their first trip to Honolulu, Hawaii.
The major difference between Gray and Jones, say advocates for low-wage workers, is that she lives in a city where janitors are unionized and have collectively negotiated salaries considerably above the minimum wage, what they call a living wage.
"There’s great hostility to unions in general," said Nancy B. Johnson, a professor of management at the University of Kentucky.
"In the old days," she said, "you’d see co-workers dying and you’d see raw exploitation, so you wanted a union to protect you. Now if you work at nice retailers like Target or Kmart, you don’t see people dying on the job. Yeah, you suffer some minor injustices, but a lot of workers today have learned to settle with what they have."
Daniel J. B. Mitchell, a professor of public policy at the University of California, Los Angeles, said many service-sector workers held jobs that were every bit as blue-collar as factory jobs. "It’s not surprising that unions are targeting workers in industrial laundries," where the temperature is soaring and the pace intense, he said. "It’s not classified as manufacturing, but it’s like blue-collar work."
The average pay is $19,000 a year. And that’s for a worker in a state facility. Those in private facilities commonly make less money, with fewer health benefits.
"We expect them to do it for a pittance of pay," said Bill Edmonds, the retired superintendent of a state-run facility in Nevada, Mo. "I had people working for me on food stamps, and that’s a shame that people doing that kind of work have to rely on public assistance."
A 2004 study by The Associated Press found the Department of Mental Health had the highest number of workers who qualified for welfare benefits of any state agency in Missouri.
The lower pay makes it harder to hire people, said Felix Vincenz, who in February was named the head of all 19 state-run facilities.
Joe Lawrence, spokesman for the state workers’ union, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, blamed state officials.
"When you have the worst-in-the-nation state-employee pay, on top of chronic understaffing and chronic overtime, they are fueling the turnover," Lawrence said. "This will leave staff vulnerable."
State employees will get a little more money, but they still are walking into dangerous workplaces.
Police reports and state records show they have been hit, slapped, punched and stomped on by the patients they care for.
They’ve suffered black eyes, shattered teeth and broken noses, ribs, jaws, shoulders, cheeks and eye sockets.
Prisons may look more dangerous with their razor wire and high security but state workers compensation data shows that it’s far more dangerous to work in a state facility caring for mentally retarded or mentally ill residents.
Workers who care directly for mentally retarded residents are four times as likely to be hurt by a resident as a prison guard is to be hurt by an inmate, according to a Post-Dispatch analysis of state injury data.
For workers who care for the mentally ill, the rate is nearly three times as high, the analysis showed.
So where does all of this leave us? Take low pay, combined with dangerous, unpleasant work – work that is essential for Americans to continue to live the live in the manner to which they have become accustomed – and combine that with a newly revitalized labor movement. You may have the roots of a new American middle class.
Jordan Barab blogs at Confined Space.
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Christy – can you or somebody knoweledgeable answer my question? Can Chimpy pardon Libby for anything he has ever done or only for specific charges. Can’t Fitz than just charge him with any of the other crimes not charged? Does Bush really want to give a presidential pardon for the underlying crimes? Outing an undercover CIA agent, disclosing secret or confidential information. Isn’t that kinda hard to write on a piece of paper for all eternity? Kinda hard to keep trotting out that whole meme about rethugs being trustworthy on the issue of security wouldn’t it?
you should be watching Frontline on PBS right now (EDT)
Still an hour from now central time.
Double-EPU’d and now OT, but worth repeating, I think:
The jerk sitting in for Scarborough just asked why people who are critical of torture by American forces are not speaking out against what was done to the two American soldiers in Iraq.
An Orwellian Republican lie.
All of the comments I have seen in the blogosphere on this subject, including my own and Christy’s moving piece this morning, have expressed sorrow for the fate of the Americans. I see no reason why we should be silenced from also decrying the U.S. pro-torture policies that have undoubtedly affected our opponents’ approaches to that issue. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Addington and Yoo have a lot to answer for regarding this incident.
Oh, and I forgot. Abu Gonzalez.
RAR-Hawk.
Good question. Although I can’t say for sure, I believe the president can issue a blanket pardon without identifying all the specific crimes it might cover. I think that is what was done in [Republican] Nixon’s case and that of the [Republican] Iran-Contra offenders.
Jordan, thanks for this post. It seems to be lost wisdom that the unions are what made our middle class. I have many union members in my extended family – mostly Teamsters – and I know how hard they have to bargain for every concession they eke out. This feels like the gilded age redux.
I can’t fathom the mindset that says corporations need an extra billion dollars profit every year more than your neighbor needs to be able to provide for his/her family.
Thanks.
Jordan Barab:
A good post on an important issue. I don’t mean to hijack it.
Well, I have been lurking some, but mostly very busy.
Your post is timely and I want to respond
I am a Union Shop Steward, OPEIU Local 8 out of Seattle. As I have said before, I do In Home Care. Yesterday we went to Bargain for our new contract and were informed that our agency, Olympic Communtiy Action Programs is planning to drop the Home Care Program from the roster of services they provide the community here in Jefferson and Clallam Counties. They are running in the red to the tune of $90k, have been running in the red for a few years due to the fact thet our State legislature, although providing increases to the Vendor rate for workers’ wages, have not given the Agency enough of a hike to cover all the hours they must pay out that they can’t bill for such as paid time off and holiday. The agency Director pretty much let us know he thinks the reason they are in the red is because of the union and all the”perks’ we get.
Until they voted in the union, these women were making not even poverty wages. I started at $5.87 in 1997 nad at this point I’m only making $9.73. We get 2 hours of paid time off for each 40 we work, we have health insurance that the State pays for except for $17 that we put in and we get 2 “paid” Holidays which we are paid for an average of our hours over 1 quarter, so for most of us it doesn’t come to 8 hours.
Before the Union, the aides got $.05 a year raise on their birthday while the supervisors got nice fat bonuses and good raises . We have one aide who has been there 25 years who is only making $11 an hour and that is only because of the union. Many of the Home Care agencies here are engaging in union busting tactics and I fear that is what is happening here.
The strides we have made might not seem like much to others, but to us they are huge, and we are about to lose it all! We are going to try to save it, but I am sure we will be asked to give back a bunch, like we can afford to take 2 giant steps backwards!
My shift key is on the blitz so please excuse my typing errors, I can’t make the same excuse for my spelling!
rar-hawk — that’s a series of questions with a really long answer. I’ll try to put a post together on some of that in the next few days to answer those questions. But it’s very complicated, so it may take me a little while…
Thank you Christy – It just seems that after watching K.O. and his conversation with Larry O’Donnel tonight that it might be the center of conversation sometime soon.
We’re seeing a rather disturbing phenomenon in the country with respect to public employees. Until relatively recently (the 1960’s), public employees were ill-treated, underpaid, lacking in basic benefits, and not represented by unions. Over the past 40 years, about half the states have passed laws allowing public employees to organize unions, and they have slowly acquired the benefits and pay that all union workers enjoyed (until recently). Half the states, however, still don’t require public emloyers to recognize unions.
What we’re seeing now however, are politicians asking why public employees should get to keep their generous pensions and health care, when everyone else in America is losing theirs. We saw a lot of letters to the editor during the recent New York Transit strike asking the same question. It’s like some people, having been dragged down into poverty by public policy and globalization, want to make sure that everyone still standing gets dragged down as well: “I lost my pension and my health care, so why should my taxes go to providing those things for public employees?”
This sentiment is, of course, stoked by those who don’t want to see any workers left that the unorganized and abused can aspire to. That’s largely what was behind Schwarzeneggers’ initiative that would have made public employee unions unable to participate in the political process.
More on all of this here, here, here and here.
My dear GOD! Is anyone watching FRONTLINE???? They’re telling the TRUTh! IT’s effing incredible! How did this happen.
OT, In know. BUt mein GOTT.
I’ll tell you something that’s REALLY amusing…amusing in a very sad way
the very people that think there shouldn’t be an increase in the minimum wage are the same people that think unions are bad for America
the same people that think corporations should be able to pay such a rediculously low salary their workforce WON’T be able to get the wage they need to survive, they WON’T be able to afford health care or retirement, or college for their kids
it’s those same people against unions that argue against a living wage for people who need to raise a family
and they are the people arguing against a living wage and against unions that are the very same people that think the wage market will take care of itself in a supply demand scenario when it comes to how much a company will pay their laborers.
news flash;
labor wage doesn’t evolve as a supply demand scenario, the employer has a bully pulpit type of advantage over the employee, the employee needs to put food on the table and raise their kids, they are forced to work at any price.
there is no supply and demand formula in most labor sectors at the base level unless there is a union or some form of cooperative or collective bargaining procedure to get the correct price.
the workforce puts together to a collective bargaining company to sell their labor wares, they can then get the wage their market indicates should be paid by in a bargaining process…the corporation doesn’t want to bargain for the goods it needs to purchase…that’s why they are against the process
this collective bargaining company is known in todays times as a union…however today unions are villified in peoples minds, this switch began about 20 thirty years ago when the media began cosolidating and became unified with some of their agenda
ever since the media consolidated from over 50 owners to now 6 the middle class actually believe unions hurt them…mind boggling but true
funny how back then unions were what everyone wanted and now people actually think unions are bad…but this is the power of marketing.
people used to go out of their way to buy only union products, that’s how pro union this country was before the consilidation of media..yet in todays times the middle class vote against themselves and the collective bargaining process for their product
when will people stop falling for the marketing schemes corporations propagate that tell us prices go up when the minimum wage goes up?
prices are based on what the market will bare, not on the cost of the product…if a company can get 100 dollars for a pair of sneakers that cost 3 dollars to make, they charge 100 dollars, not six dollars
if a company pays 100 dollars for a product they can sell for 20, nobody should be making that product and they go out of bussiness.
lowering the price of a workforce diverts the cost of doing bussiness away from the company that is supposed to be paying the bill and it forces you and me to pay the wages they are supposed to be paying
when a corporation pays so little to their workforce that the family needs public organizations to survive, like the health clinic or emergency room when their kids break their arm or teeth, etc
the company paying that low wage is actually getting us to pay for their workforce…that’s the marketing strategy they use and it works on people convincing us they should be able to pay whatever they want
this is a fact, it’s not some “liberal jiberish”
companies have to pay their own bills and they have to STOP getting us to pay for their workforce
Sorry–couldn’t even wait to edit I’m so blown away. And I see *ilson46201 at 3 noted it too. But GO WATCH IT. This is really astounding. They are laying it all out in spades. Synched up with the latest Ron Suskind book. Do not MISS this!
Shocking to see the truth on teevee isn’t it?
Sad, that.
here comes Wilson and Plame and Niger…
Fantastic post, Jordan. Can’t wait to read the next step. These issues need so much more discussion — including the tug of war between labor and corporate interests.
Ugh – my cab;e internet is down and I’m on dial up.
This is an excellent post, Jordan. I had not really thought through the wave of unionizing the service sector in quite that way to revive the American middle class.
This is so important.
Folks, I encourage people to read through and comment on Jordan’s work here, though I’m sure the Frontline piece is compelling.
Okay, somebody help me out here. I’m at work with no TV. In 50 words or less, who’s on Frontline and what’s happening?
Jordan, thank you for this post. I have spent most of my adult life working in the wildly non-unionized south for shite wages. One of the big narratives that we need to seize back from the Repugnicans is the conventional wisdom on labor unions. Thanks for shedding some much needed light on this sore subject.
Sorry to go OT again. But we need a thread on this. I’ve had a lot of gripes about Frontline of late. But this is IT. Wilson, fakery in the NIE, Cuirveball, 16 words, Office of Special Plans, Plame, EVERYTHING. If FDL had been writing the script for this documentary you could hardly have asked for better. Any number of CIA insiders, DIA insiders, coming forward–incredible. If this doesn’t blow it wide open I don’t know if anything ever will.
Kathi/Nanakat at 9, Oh yeah, all the “perks” you get. Let them try it for one day.
TRex — it’s about the WHIG and the neocon cabal and how they forced us into war in Iraq. And the CIA has opened the doors on information, and is kicking Cheney’s ass. If you can watch the repeat on PBS (mine is repeating it at 1:00 am ET), do so. It’s amazing.
PILGRIM: Now, some industries still argue that raising the minimum wage would undercut their competitiveness, but those companies are becoming a minority. The Economic Policy Institute says 86 percent of businesses now admit that an increase in the minimum wage level would have no adverse effect on their business at all. So, Congress has absolutely no excuse to delay — Lou.
DOBBS: Oh, they — they will come up with something, I’m sure. When it comes to reason, humanity, some concern for working men and women in this country, this Congress, like many before it, will come up with some reason.
It is absolutely unconscionable that this — that the United States government, in any form, whether it’s elected officials or in its Labor Department or any other part of the administration, can say to people, absolutely lie to them, and say that the minimum wage kills jobs, and that it just won’t work, or it won’t make them competitive, because what these companies are saying who are saying that they don’t want to raise the minimum wage nine years after the last time, what they’re really saying is that the way they can be competitive is have everybody worked for slave wages.
And I’m sure they can be very competitive, if that’s the basis upon which they must be. We don’t need those businesses, as far as I’m concerned, anyway. Let them shut their doors and move on.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA…..dt.01.html
K-POW!
Sorry to just drop and leave, and OT at that, but the Frontline tonight on PBS is just stunning. It will be available to watch online TH night. Here is the Web site
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/
This is without a doubt, absolutely, positively, required viewing. OMG.
An organized labor force puts a floor under our whole society – medical care, retirement, parental leave, job safety and training, leisure time.
Unionization should be supported by the progressive sector of the Democratic Party, and by people who are not presently part of organized labor themselves, but who realize its importance to our society. (You don’t have to be a car-owner to demand speed limits and emission standards.)
The alternative to developing a middle class — within our service economy — is serfdom. It’s that simple. If we are no longer to have a manufacturing base, and if service employees have no union, wages will never advance to “lift all boats.” Stockholders will not allow such frivolous use of their dividends unless management is compelled. Organization is the hope of the future, and the future is now.
I remember when we oriented during my first week at Borders books in 2003. They paid me $5.75 an hour and fired me on trumped-up charges six months later, the day before my health insurance was supposed to kick in. I distinctly remember the attitude they took when I asked about unionization. A Borders store in Michigan (I think) unionized. The management team practically threw a blanket over my head to stop me from talking about a union.
Retail workers are among the most overworked and shoddily compensated workers in this country, and with Wal-Mart being our single largest national employer, that means millions of people are working their asses off and not getting by. It’s disgraceful.
Frontline tonight on PBS is just stunning. It will be available to watch online TH night.
That’s good news for me since I killed my cable and sold my TV after the 2004 election. I would much rather watch it online.
I’ve got my Tivo set to record Frontline at 10 p.m. tonight – can’t wait!
Jordan, thanks for an excellent post. I remember, as a young person, telling my mother that unions had become corrupt and outlived their usefulness. Can you say naive? I thought you could. My mother, who was a child of the Depression, certainly knew better. I’m excited to hear that unions are focusing on the service sector.
Kathi/Nanakat, $11 an hour after 25 years? Unconscionable. Hang tough up there, and keep us posted on how things are going.
I won’t do it again–this thread is on an important topic in its own right. But if you’re in the Boston area, they’re running the Frontline documentary AGAIN. As in back-to-back. This is a serious change in the dialogue about Iraq. However many people watch the initial airing, the fact of this airing and these facts coming out FINALLY is going to dominate discussion in the near term. They’re going to have to answer this stuff–it’s on TV so it’s “real.”
They start it right out with Wolfowitz and the origins of the PNAC doctrine under Bush I and go on from there. I’m telling you–this IS the narrative about the Iraq invasion we on the left blogosphere have been piecing together, pretty much EXACTLY the way it’s been laid down online, with new details to fill it out. They’re doing Shinseki now and it’s GUT wrenching.
Okay, I’ll shut up now.
me to me @ 14
Great post. I’ve thought about these things a lot too.
I think another paradigm that needs to shift is the labor/capital dynamic. With globalization, don’t we see a third player — one that was always there, but invisible. And that is “the market.”
So you have three players: labor, capital, and the market. The market is the local physical place where the action happens. The city, the county, whatever. So, for instance, you might have a situation where the market — say, the City of San Francisco — makes a rule: No capital can operate in this market unless it pays labor a living wage. In that case, the market can regulate for social justice or just frankly for conditions that make for a healthy market.
The market could ban products made by sweatshop labor.
Maybe it’s just that capital has taken over the congress, the white house and, to a degree, the judicial branch. Where are labor and the interests of the public good to go for representation?
Governor Evan Bayh had graciously ‘permitted’ unions in Indiana state government — the first thing new Republican Governor Mitch Daniels did on his first day was to unilaterally abrogate ALL state union contracts … figures, doesnt it?
Mitch had been Bush’s Budget Director during the massive growth of the Federal Govt…
What concerns me is that if the corporations start having to treat their employees decently and with dignity, they might all go overseas to get exploitable labor. If I were King, any company farming out labor to cheaper overseas markets would face HUGE tax penalties against their profit margins.
TRex , the local PBS station is following up the super Cheney show with a pleasant pgm by Conlon about piano playing … cool ! I’m watching it in HDTV and 5.1 sound …
Another fantastic post, Jordan. I was so happy to see you posting here. I hope your conclusion is right:
Take low pay, combined with dangerous, unpleasant work %u2013 work that is essential for Americans to continue to live the live in the manner to which they have become accustomed %u2013 and combine that with a newly revitalized labor movement. You may have the roots of a new American middle class.
I feel like it’s going to take a very long time though. Quite a bit of the dangerous unpleasant work is hidden and the Right has been very succesful in their campaign to discredit unions. Even my daughter’s fourth grade teacher, a union member, talked them down in class. I had to offer to come in to teach a guest class on the subject (I can handle fourth grade labor history) to get her to do a better job herself.
FYI, Frontline will have the entire program online starting Thurs at 5pm Eastern.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/
There are also taped interviews, etc. online.
Sorry. “Rumsfeld’s War” on GBH. Missed the beginning of “The Dark Side” so I thought it was the same show. Dovetails very nicely though. And I really will stop thread highjacking now.
Funny, my (Russian) fiancee walked in during the frontline piece and said;
“They’re telling the truth. Who let that happen?”
Hey, Pach – Glenn Greenwald says “Hi.” RevDeb, Selise, Scarecro*, GMoke, and i were at the last of Glenn’s speaking tour here in Cambridge Drinking Liberally. Nice mellow bunch, not too crowded and, thankfully, the blasting music was off until mingle-time. We took a group shot (we girls)(RevDeb’s and Selise’s cameras, i forgot mine!) and we all marveled that a year ago, none of us would have thought we’d be activists. RevDeb sent around a sign-up sheet for the Roots Project which Glenn said he endorsed, so everyone knew we weren’t stepping on his toes. He’s young! Many at the place were bemoaning the state of the Fourth Estate, scarecro* brought everyone to their senses by saing, “Fuck’em!” Glenn concurred, saying that trying to fix the media would take so much time and resources that its just not worth it. We have to find alternate ways of getting the news, critiquing, analyzing, and distributing it….. and guess what!! That’s what we are just getting good at. We did touch on how vulnerable we are – of course, we can expect the powers to push back at us. Net Neutrality will be their opening salvo on our new movement and we certainly can expect more determined pushes-back in the future. We just have to gear up for it – not for the faint-hearted. But then, the Founding Fathers never expected it to be. What a brilliant young man, and good on him for being a Paul Revere and rallying the hinterlands.
The Frontline documentary was amazing–much was familiar (though of course not on something like the teevee)–but some was not. E.g., I did not know the Pentagon was completely unprepared with a war plan for Afghanistan right after 9/11, while the CIA was.
While it included a large cast of interviewees, CIA and non-CIA alike, I couldn’t help but think this story almost seems like it was orchestrated by the CIA (at least the pre-Goss folks). You know, Operation Mockingbird and the Mighty Wurlizter and all that.
The whole program pulled everything together into an understandable narrative–the crux of which I think is George Tenant’s somewhat inexplicable crossing over to the Dark Side. On that point, though, David Kay, had the most apt remark of the whole show: “He traded integrity for access”. Any reporters and news personalities out there listening?
Wow!
Drinking Liberally in Cambridge!
Whodathunkit?
Is there any other kind of drinking in Cambridge?
*g*
PBS is smearing Cheney and Rumsfeld now. (Central time)
Sorry if this has been pointed out previously. Incredible show.
Thanks for the great post and the hope that comes with it!
I watched Leo Gerard get the first Apollo Alliance award the other day and was fascinated to learn that the United Steelworkers have been working for the environment for YEARS and are very committed to beating global warming and for the good jobs that can come from the technology we need to develop in that regard. It’s a win: win, I know; but I was deeply impressed by the history there.
Thank you Jordan!
another info packed post
I take Tasini’s point about the numbers needed in growth BUT, the victory in Houston is huge – this is a so called “right to work” state – right to work ya to death for crap pay and no real benefits. and I don’t think it’s too much to think that many of those folks in Houston were hispanic, asian, and Afro-American – imagine Management’s attitude
What little I know, indicates the schism btw AFL-CIO and SEIU wont be healed anytime soon, but I believe AFL-CIO needs SEIU more than vice versa, though goodness we progressives need them both -
ccow: my first reaction was: Wow! Cheney aint gonna like this show !
smearing implies lies and spin
they aren’t smearing anyone
and yes, it’s great to see ‘truth’ on the teevee – but proving Glen’s point at drinking liberally – 90% of us knew the facts and the narrative b/c of alternative media (fever swamp)
So should PBS look to see its funding killed?
I missed the first hour of Frontline, didn’t realize it was on then. I’ll watch for a rerun or watch it online.
I’m sure they’re plotting to kill “frontline” as we speak.
Great Post Jordan-
I have a very long union family history marked with childhood memories of my 82 yr old father sneaking food into the sit down strikers (my great uncles)in Flint MI in 1937 which was the first auto workers strike.
http://info.detnews.com/histor…..y=business
My maternal grandfather was a union letter carrier for the US Postal Service for 35 years.
These two branches of my family of union workers put the next generation through college, educating nurses, teachers, doctors and military officers. That generation (mine) are now educating the next generation but worry about their future and opportunties.
The next generation: college son is having a party, one friend tells me he too is from Ohio. Conversation ensues about politics. He and his Ohio friends are HORRIFIED that Blackwell might become governor and will all work to stop this nightmare. They know the story.
Kinda makes me feel all happy inside. They get it, and they’re going to take action.
Wonder if they’ll bring back that fool crony Tomlinson for another hatchet job.
I’m out on the West Coast and it feels almost like Christmas morning, waiting to see a teevee show to tell us the real truth(as opposed to the fair and balanced truth).
I can hardly wait.
My money is on the ole budget axe falling on the PBS network.
Wonder if they’ll bring back that fool crony Tomlinson for another hatchet job.
Angie, they don’t have to. He left his minions behind. And there’s a new Bush appointee to the board of Public Broadcasting. ‘Frontline’ will hear about this, and the Bad Guys will probably demand equal time to make their own documentary.
Sometimes the rightward slant I hear in NPR news makes me sick. And I work for them!
aaaaaaaaaargh! We gotta win in November!
lindar@32
the answer is there can’t be unfair playing fields
if a country doesn’t have collective bargaining for the workforce, we need to tariff the product so the cost to sell in America is the same as if they did have collective bargaining
if a country produces a sneaker for 1 dollar, but it’s labor force doesn’t have retirement or health care and the average wage is 1/10th what it is here, then we tariff that product 10 times the corporates cost
bing…do bussiness in the u.s., your labor has to have collective bargaining
these issues are VERY simple to solve, they WERE solved before reagan began to dismantle the American union and the tariff protovol we had in play to keep the playing fields exual
MEPU’d [mega epu’d] OT
fwiw, I would like to say about Carville and Matalin, love goes where it will. You can be horrified, but don’t demonize someone for who they fall in love with.
If Carville starts acting with the Republicans in an egregiously awful way, then pulverize him. Until then, let people love each other in freedom–isn’t that one of our progressive goals?
TRex,
Tomlinson is busy lawyering up – believe he’s facing three felonies – see if I can find ya something on it
we’re probably getting to see this tonight b/c he is gone
EPU’d:
Taylor: “Kerry’s got it right, ‘lie and die’ is how he described Republicans. If you’ve got a better one, let’s hear it.”
Sit ‘n’ Spin?
To my mind, there really are only two classes, the working class and the leisure class (Yes, I’m cribbing from Thorstein Veblen, http://www.caslon.com.au/biographies/veblen.htm, http://www.mnc.net/norway/veblen.html, who deserves to be rediscovered).
Too many corporate workers have been seduced into believing that the color of their collars elevates them above the “working class” and therefore union membership is not for them. But as thousands of workers in white collars have discovered, loyalty to their corporations is not reciprocated. Call it being layed off, being made redundant, or being outsourced–call it what you will, the isolated worker is vulnerable no matter what his trade or profession. I’ve seen enough mid-level careerists let go, only to discover that their salary expectations make them “unemployable”. I’ve watched them salve their pride by calling themselves consultants, not recognizing that they’re now doing piece work as much as the garment worker sewing on collars is. I’m a tenured full professor and a very proud union member. There may be some consolation to see the janitors at the University of Miami organize, unionize, and successfully collective bargain. But I’ll not count it a victory until the accountants, IT professionals, and even lower level managers recognize that they can protect their economic futures by recognizing their mutual interests and organize as well. Unions are not for “them”; Unions are for us.
Jordan, great post. I just read that Time article after Frontline, while I was waiting for my daughter to finish her online test for her personal watercraft certificate. I had read some time ago that the old lie about how raising the minimum wage hurts job growth is just that – a lie. That states which had raised the minimum wage had actually increased job growth.
Apologies if anyone else has mentioned that, but I’m trying to catch up and also get to bed (and failing).
Frontline was amazing. I was stunned at the case it laid out, and the quality of the people who contributed to it. Having read Suskind’s book on O’Neill, I think I will have to read his latest, as well.
Oh, and before I forget – thanks to all of you who thought my suggestion for a new slogan or comeback was a good one. I agree that “crap” might not pass muster in all venues, although I can “hear” Howard Dean saying it with little compunction…maybe a variation would be, “Cut to the chase and run this operation the way it should have been all along.”
Finally – if Jane is still in the neighborhood, am so glad to hear that your mom is improving, and will keep both of you in my thoughts and prayers. Hope you can get some much-needed rest, too.
Stay stuck in the mud and lose more blood
Anne,
I really liked “crap”—it was so succinct & get’s your attention. However, “chase” is a good compromise. *g*
Ken Mehlman has already mapped out the response to “lie and die:” it is trading on the deaths of honorable American soldiers for partisan political purposes.
“Lie and die” ain’t gonna fly…
OMG I need to go to bed!
me to me 56 — a lot of people think the beginning of the end was Reagan firing the air traffic controlers, but I remember him getting started here in California. I was in 8th grade, I think, and did a report on him messing with the regents of UC system here. He wanted to get rid of the fabulous, nearly free higher education system California had. And he got the project started, anyway.
Being against workers having good wages and benefits is part of the regressive, aristocratic philosophy. Not wanting the public to have common goods is also a part of it, hence the drive to privatize everything, make every human interaction a potential profit center.
I’m all for bringing back tariffs.
Frontline was excellent! Nothing much new for me really or anyone else here I suppose. The song remains the same.
T Rex,
here ya go – he’s currently the target of 3 investigations in to possible felonies – and apparently quite the crony stooge
http://stygius.typepad.com/sty….._hole.html
Unions are not for them; Unions are for us.
love it Mike
lindar 65
I believe this country at one time funded the federal government with tariffs..I think as much as 90% buy I don’t remember the time frame or the exact figure and when it changed
we need to tariff any country’s products that are produced with slave labor wages, and any country that doesn’t allow for collective bargaining for their workforce
On PRI Marketplace, they reported on the UAW meeting; GM has a labor cost of $81 per hour, compared with the $45 per hour at US plants of Japanese automakers.
But even there, it isn’t the $81 that’s killing GM — if the big three still had 60-65% market share, they’d be fine. What’s killed domsetic auto makers is crappy designs, heavily dependent on the high profit trucks and SUV’s.
Good to know Frontline will show it again…have to encourage those who don’t watch online to catch that. I remember seeing on cspan when Carl Ford gave very impressive testimony. Frontline did an excellent job. All was familiar but it was great to see it in a cohesive timeline & hear Kay & the others telling it like it was. Hopefully, this will get the attention it deserves, I’m tired of banging my head on the wall in frustration. Now how long will it be till we find out who forged the niger documents.
Solidarity Forever
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
“Solidarity Forever”, written by Ralph Chaplin in 1915, is perhaps the most famous union anthem. It is sung to the tune of “John Brown’s Body”. The song is still performed by musicians such as Utah Phillips, and was redone by Emcee Lynx. It is still commonly sung at union meetings and rallies in Australia, and has also been sung at conferences of the Australian Labor Party.
Sung to the tune of “The Battle Hymn of the Republic”
When the union’s inspiration through the workers’ blood shall run,
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun;
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one,
But the union makes us strong.
CHORUS:
Solidarity forever,
Solidarity forever,
Solidarity forever,
For the union makes us strong.
Is there aught we hold in common with the greedy parasite,
Who would lash us into serfdom and would crush us with his might?
Is there anything left to us but to organize and fight?
For the union makes us strong.
It is we who plowed the prairies; built the cities where they trade;
Dug the mines and built the workshops, endless miles of railroad laid;
Now we stand outcast and starving midst the wonders we have made;
But the union makes us strong.
All the world that’s owned by idle drones is ours and ours alone.
We have laid the wide foundations; built it skyward stone by stone.
It is ours, not to slave in, but to master and to own.
While the union makes us strong.
They have taken untold millions that they never toiled to earn,
But without our brain and muscle not a single wheel can turn.
We can break their haughty power, gain our freedom when we learn
That the union makes us strong.
In our hands is placed a power greater than their hoarded gold,
Greater than the might of armies, magnified a thousand-fold.
We can bring to birth a new world from the ashes of the old
For the union makes us strong.
T Rex,
here ya go – he’s currently the target of 3 investigations in to possible felonies – and apparently quite the crony stooge
I don’t suppose any of those charges are punishable by the death penalty are they?
ironranger,
“Now how long will it be till we find out who forged the niger documents.”
I’d be very interested to know where the bogus story of Atta meeting an Iraqi intelligence officer in Iraq was embellished to include he was seen being handed a vial of “something” after the Anthrax attacks here. Sheesh!
Re: “Atta meeting an Iraqi intelligence officer in Iraq”
I meant Prague, not Iraq.
me to me 69, yes tariffs were much more common, esp before the income tax. I completely agree with you — though busines types will cry protectionism. My answer to that, though, is damn straight.
Almost forgot. Re-reading biography of JD Rockefeller – look what I was reading today
http://www.umwa.org/history/ludlow.shtml
loosely related – going in and out of the thread, one has to look at those two young faces at the top of Taylor’s post – and I wondered how many are seeking economic/educational opportunity in the military today – who 25 years ago might have found it as a ’shop apprentice’
New Thread – Guess Who’s Back ?
What do they call it when Slave owners don’t even pay for Food, Shelter, and Healthcare?
Oh Yeah, MURDER.
As in $5.15/hr is Murder.
Hmm, but wait!!
CEO pay has risen at 6% per year for the last 15 years.
Make that Pre-meditated Murder.
New orleans no unions poverty.Las Vegas unions strong middle class.
cbl….This is one I remember hearing about. One reason I like the IWW.
http://labordallas.org/hist/little.htm
From tonights Frontline:
“He traded integrity for access, and that’s a bad bargain anytime in life”.
David Kay, speaking on Tenet… Hello?
The Democratic party started the assault on unionization in America. Jimmy Carter, as President and Ted Kennedy pushing the Bill in the Senate deregulated transportation. That was the beginning. I worked for Piedmont Airlines. The Airlines are a service industry. Airline employees from the most compensated to the least have taken 40-50% cuts in compensation. Please explain to me how supporting the Democrats are going to change this.
#83 ‘Please explain to me how supporting the Democrats are going to change this.’
Good point.
One difference is that Democrats’ traditional constituency creates IOUs that we can try to enforce after an election. (Democrats talk about justice in election years, Republicans never do.)
Let’s get Dems to commit in their platform to reforms like making union membership the default setting, and requiring uniform bylaws promoting internal union democracy.
enter illegal immigration
http://politickybitch.blogspot…..umber.html
here’s something that will make you weep as if this thread isn’t bad enough
oops, here’s the real link, sorry