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		<title>By: fightgirl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/18/time-to-take-off-the-glasses/#comment-148353</link>
		<dc:creator>fightgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oops, just was typing my post while Christy posted hers and they refreshed at the same time.  Hope it didn’t add to the “pile” -just some food for thought on the war and its cost.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Absolutely no problem, fightgirl — I’m just reaching critical mass in terms of how many active threads I can monitor at any given time.  And so glad you switched over from being reader to commenter — welcome aboard.  :)  — CHS)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, just was typing my post while Christy posted hers and they refreshed at the same time.  Hope it didn’t add to the “pile” -just some food for thought on the war and its cost.</p>
<p>(Absolutely no problem, fightgirl — I’m just reaching critical mass in terms of how many active threads I can monitor at any given time.  And so glad you switched over from being reader to commenter — welcome aboard.  :)  — CHS)</p>
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		<title>By: fightgirl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/18/time-to-take-off-the-glasses/#comment-148347</link>
		<dc:creator>fightgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Egregious at 148… THANK YOU for the work you do.  It breaks my heart how many tens of thousands we have injured or killed… especially when we brag about killing one “bad guy”.  What is the cost of catching one terrorist (whom we helped empower with our unjust war)?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am horrified when people seem to not care about the human cost…and I am not even addressing the awful pain to our troops, their families and friends.  For what end?  Personally, I think this entire war has not been about Iraq or the Middle East at all (despite the neo-cons plan).  On some level, being at war justifies the infringement (or blatant removal) of individual liberties, distracts the public from the real agenda, and redistributes wealth to the private enterprises billing us billions for their work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whether we “win” or “lose” in iraq, the Administration got what it wanted - rubber stamp Congress, obliteration of checks and balances, and redistribution of wealth and power.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Believe it or not, I was hardly a “liberal’ before this Administration… I was all for free markets and small government.  But nothing about this Administration is for freedom and small government.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, back to the point… thanks egregious for working in places that many can only imagine.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Egregious at 148… THANK YOU for the work you do.  It breaks my heart how many tens of thousands we have injured or killed… especially when we brag about killing one “bad guy”.  What is the cost of catching one terrorist (whom we helped empower with our unjust war)?  </p>
<p>I am horrified when people seem to not care about the human cost…and I am not even addressing the awful pain to our troops, their families and friends.  For what end?  Personally, I think this entire war has not been about Iraq or the Middle East at all (despite the neo-cons plan).  On some level, being at war justifies the infringement (or blatant removal) of individual liberties, distracts the public from the real agenda, and redistributes wealth to the private enterprises billing us billions for their work.</p>
<p>Whether we “win” or “lose” in iraq, the Administration got what it wanted &#8211; rubber stamp Congress, obliteration of checks and balances, and redistribution of wealth and power.</p>
<p>Believe it or not, I was hardly a “liberal’ before this Administration… I was all for free markets and small government.  But nothing about this Administration is for freedom and small government.</p>
<p>Oh, back to the point… thanks egregious for working in places that many can only imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/18/time-to-take-off-the-glasses/#comment-148343</link>
		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Okay, everyone.  Enough piling on.  I have enough to do today without having to come back to this thread every five minutes to make sure there’s no name calling.  Please, drop it.  Du and Mark are big boys and can more than handle themselves if they choose to do so.  Likewise just about everyone else on this blog at one point or another.  But I will not tolerate a bunch of snipy nastiness — I have not had nearly enough sleep for it, and my exhaustion is like to make me snappish any moment now.  So please, let it go.  Are we clear?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, everyone.  Enough piling on.  I have enough to do today without having to come back to this thread every five minutes to make sure there’s no name calling.  Please, drop it.  Du and Mark are big boys and can more than handle themselves if they choose to do so.  Likewise just about everyone else on this blog at one point or another.  But I will not tolerate a bunch of snipy nastiness — I have not had nearly enough sleep for it, and my exhaustion is like to make me snappish any moment now.  So please, let it go.  Are we clear?</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/18/time-to-take-off-the-glasses/#comment-148336</link>
		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tennessean, altho since you are clearly a drive-by assassin, I am talking to the mirror here, re Dubhaltach:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Could you BE more insulting to someone who is doing dangerous work?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Second. What name he calls himself is between him and his father.  Not for you to translate or otherwise mock.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Third.  For the record I want it known that Tennessean has never in my memory commented here before and does NOT represent how fdl people feel about du and mfi.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My street cred: I work in a developing country, sometimes in dangerous situations, in hospitals with pitiful supplies, where the lives of children hang in the balance. I have personally seen children die who could have been saved if they had the right medical supplies. I, unlike you, do understand how we have destroyed Iraq’s medical system, perhaps you could give that some thought the next time you need emergency care.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WE HAVE DESTROYED A COUNTRY.  GOD HELP US.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tennessean, altho since you are clearly a drive-by assassin, I am talking to the mirror here, re Dubhaltach:</p>
<p>Could you BE more insulting to someone who is doing dangerous work?  </p>
<p>Second. What name he calls himself is between him and his father.  Not for you to translate or otherwise mock.</p>
<p>Third.  For the record I want it known that Tennessean has never in my memory commented here before and does NOT represent how fdl people feel about du and mfi.</p>
<p>My street cred: I work in a developing country, sometimes in dangerous situations, in hospitals with pitiful supplies, where the lives of children hang in the balance. I have personally seen children die who could have been saved if they had the right medical supplies. I, unlike you, do understand how we have destroyed Iraq’s medical system, perhaps you could give that some thought the next time you need emergency care.  </p>
<p>WE HAVE DESTROYED A COUNTRY.  GOD HELP US.</p>
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		<title>By: fightgirl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/18/time-to-take-off-the-glasses/#comment-148317</link>
		<dc:creator>fightgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To all for father’s day: Posted on the Sunday thread as well but not sure if EPU’d..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just came back from a spiritual service where they offered a prayer of gratitude not only for all the fathers present, but for all the SINGLE MOMS DOING THE WORK OF FATHERS TOO! The place went wild and over 1000 people were on their feet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not falling in either category myself, it was nevertheless a moving experience.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, to all the fathers on FDL - and any single parents doing the work of fathers - thanks for all you do.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And teach your children well about what is necessary to return this country to a true democracy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Happy Father’s Day!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all for father’s day: Posted on the Sunday thread as well but not sure if EPU’d..</p>
<p>I just came back from a spiritual service where they offered a prayer of gratitude not only for all the fathers present, but for all the SINGLE MOMS DOING THE WORK OF FATHERS TOO! The place went wild and over 1000 people were on their feet.</p>
<p>Not falling in either category myself, it was nevertheless a moving experience.</p>
<p>So, to all the fathers on FDL &#8211; and any single parents doing the work of fathers &#8211; thanks for all you do.</p>
<p>And teach your children well about what is necessary to return this country to a true democracy.</p>
<p>Happy Father’s Day!</p>
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		<title>By: Shez</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/18/time-to-take-off-the-glasses/#comment-148298</link>
		<dc:creator>Shez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just to clarify, when I said Dub doesn’t take any shit and then followed with &lt;i&gt;“like everyone here is so proud of doing at will on a daily basis”&lt;/i&gt; I meant no one here takes any shit either, and they’ll certainly let everyone know it. I edited out too much of that sentence and don’t want it misconstrued.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, when I said Dub doesn’t take any shit and then followed with <i>“like everyone here is so proud of doing at will on a daily basis”</i> I meant no one here takes any shit either, and they’ll certainly let everyone know it. I edited out too much of that sentence and don’t want it misconstrued.</p>
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		<title>By: lotus</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/18/time-to-take-off-the-glasses/#comment-148289</link>
		<dc:creator>lotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Amen to Shez, and Amen to Mark and Du.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to Shez, and Amen to Mark and Du.</p>
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		<title>By: Shez</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/18/time-to-take-off-the-glasses/#comment-148253</link>
		<dc:creator>Shez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;(Slightly edited by CHS — Shez, if you have questions as to why, e-mail me.  Thanks.  ReddHedd at AOL dot com)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There’s not one damned thing to *smile* about or condescendingly call silly or abusive, especially not to amazing souls like Dub who is actually serving and &lt;b&gt;in mortal danger&lt;/b&gt;, a strong brave officer, nor should you be insulting him over defending his FATHER Mark, on Father’s Day no less, who is equally amazing and well loved around here. I recall the thread Dub is citing which happened within the last month although not all the details or who all was involved at the moment, what I do recall is being very offended and shocked by how Mark was treated by some commenters. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is there something in the water lately? Has the tons of depleted uranium the USA has been using finally drifted over on the jet stream? It just seems like long time commenters are getting attacked all the time anymore which has affected me from commenting too when our focus should be on the facts and the fascists, not the messengers on the front lines telling us eye witness accounts of what our MSM and the Busheviks won’t. Dub isn’t being rude, he’s being real and speaking Truth, what a concept, and he doesn’t take any shit like everyone here is so proud of doing at will on a daily basis. And that’s so hard to grasp sitting safely surreal in our puter chairs isn’t it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank You, Dub, for sharing your first hand perspectives of Iraq, and your objectivity of America that most are too subjectively close to to discern having never stepped foot in Iraq or off our shores in many cases. The minor squabbles here will work out in due time, it’s the major global implications of real warfare and never ending troubles that keep me from sleeping. You know you are in my prayers every moment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Slightly edited by CHS — Shez, if you have questions as to why, e-mail me.  Thanks.  ReddHedd at AOL dot com)</p>
<p>There’s not one damned thing to *smile* about or condescendingly call silly or abusive, especially not to amazing souls like Dub who is actually serving and <b>in mortal danger</b>, a strong brave officer, nor should you be insulting him over defending his FATHER Mark, on Father’s Day no less, who is equally amazing and well loved around here. I recall the thread Dub is citing which happened within the last month although not all the details or who all was involved at the moment, what I do recall is being very offended and shocked by how Mark was treated by some commenters. </p>
<p>Is there something in the water lately? Has the tons of depleted uranium the USA has been using finally drifted over on the jet stream? It just seems like long time commenters are getting attacked all the time anymore which has affected me from commenting too when our focus should be on the facts and the fascists, not the messengers on the front lines telling us eye witness accounts of what our MSM and the Busheviks won’t. Dub isn’t being rude, he’s being real and speaking Truth, what a concept, and he doesn’t take any shit like everyone here is so proud of doing at will on a daily basis. And that’s so hard to grasp sitting safely surreal in our puter chairs isn’t it.</p>
<p>Thank You, Dub, for sharing your first hand perspectives of Iraq, and your objectivity of America that most are too subjectively close to to discern having never stepped foot in Iraq or off our shores in many cases. The minor squabbles here will work out in due time, it’s the major global implications of real warfare and never ending troubles that keep me from sleeping. You know you are in my prayers every moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Fool Zero</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/18/time-to-take-off-the-glasses/#comment-148219</link>
		<dc:creator>Fool Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;(From Item 15 in Khalilzad’s June 6 memo to Condi):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In March, a few staff members approached us to ask what provisions would we make for them if we evacuate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not to worry, there’s no way Bush will allow them to evacuate till after the November elections.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(From Item 15 in Khalilzad’s June 6 memo to Condi):
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<blockquote><p>In March, a few staff members approached us to ask what provisions would we make for them if we evacuate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not to worry, there’s no way Bush will allow them to evacuate till after the November elections.</p>
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		<title>By: Fool Zero</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/18/time-to-take-off-the-glasses/#comment-148203</link>
		<dc:creator>Fool Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;#22 Frank Probst, will &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kent.ac.uk/careers/pics/lemmings.gif&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; help at all? Here it is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kent.ac.uk/careers/alternatives.htm&quot;&gt;in its original context&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lots more lemming pics &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.com/images?q=lemmings&amp;hl=en&amp;btnG=Search&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; if anyone has the patience to sort though them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#22 Frank Probst, will <a href="http://www.kent.ac.uk/careers/pics/lemmings.gif">this</a> help at all? Here it is <a href="http://www.kent.ac.uk/careers/alternatives.htm">in its original context</a>.</p>
<p>Lots more lemming pics <a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=lemmings&amp;hl=en&amp;btnG=Search">here</a> if anyone has the patience to sort though them.</p>
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